INSOMNIA STREAM: EVER CRACK EDITION.mp3
03/11/2023Speaker
00:12:57 With the metrics, we don't care.00:01:10 To my mother's one number.
00:01:51 Your numbers.
00:01:57 Notice one computer die.
00:01:59 I'm programmed.
Speaker 1
00:02:03 Suicide run to the work.Speaker 2
00:03:19 They're blending.Speaker
00:03:23 Frustration rules.00:03:27 With the metrics, we don't care.
Speaker 3
00:04:01 Child fumes are gay.Speaker 4
00:04:57 I ran into her on computer, not sure I had my Commodore 64. I had to score.00:05:10 She's not a tramp.
00:05:11 Her name is Judy.
Speaker 5
00:05:13 A nice name.Speaker 4
00:05:15 She's a nice girl.00:05:19 She's not that kind of a girl, booger, though.
00:05:26 She's a genius.
00:05:27 Son of Venus.
00:05:29 Tell me more was in love at first.
00:05:32 That's right.
00:05:33 This was God giving grace with the face you could praise.
00:05:39 I don't think so.
00:05:40 But before we tore the chorus store the Soul Explorer.
00:05:47 That's right, I said.
00:05:48 Before we explore the story, do Adora Venas.
00:06:02 That's right.
00:06:03 This was God giving grace with the face.
00:06:05 You could pray.
00:06:29 I ran into the wrong computer cap.
00:06:35 ******** started like a boar, ending up on the floor.
00:06:43 You better know she's a genius.
Devon
00:07:40 Welcome to the insomnia stream.00:07:44 Ever crack addiction or audition?
00:07:49 Yeah, well, one of the same.
00:07:52 As you will.
Speaker 7
00:07:53 See hope you guys are doing well.Devon
00:07:57 I did a lot of the bee stuff again yet.00:08:02 It's that time of year.
00:08:03 It's that time of year.
00:08:06 Where the the nectar is not quite flowing but the.
00:08:11 The pollen is there, the pollen is there and the nectar.
00:08:14 Is about to come.
00:08:17 All the bees that survive winter doing lots of splits.
00:08:22 Is for me.
00:08:24 What I'm doing?
00:08:26 So I'm trying to build up.
00:08:27 My my bee brigade, maximum B.
00:08:34 So yeah, I'm working on just making more bees more than I am making.
00:08:38 Honey or anything?
00:08:39 Like that in the future I can make hunting with the with the maximum.
00:08:43 Bees that I got.
00:08:45 Anyway, yeah.
Speaker 7
00:08:49 Let's dive right in.00:08:50 Why not?
Devon
00:08:50 Well, yeah.00:08:51 Again, once again, there's stuff going on, right?
00:08:54 Although the skies falling, we got these, these, these big tech banks failing, it's.
00:09:04 I just don't care anymore.
00:09:06 I just don't care anymore, cause it's this is all stuff that anyone that's paying attention we like look.
00:09:13 I've, I've, I've I've mentioned exactly what I think will happen in scenarios like this over and over and over again.
00:09:19 And that is people say. Ohh, you think everything's gonna crash. And I've said yes. But it won't matter because it's.
00:09:24 All fake and gay anyway.
00:09:26 Yeah. Did it matter in 2008?
00:09:31 Of course not.
00:09:32 Did we did we?
00:09:33 Did we execute bankers?
00:09:37 Based **** like that apparent lake is it can only happen in, in in countries like Vietnam.
00:09:46 Yeah, Vietnam straight up was executing bankers.
00:09:50 That mismanaged their money.
00:09:54 In America, we we bail them out.
00:09:56 We say they're too big to fail.
00:10:00 Everyone gets a bonus.
00:10:06 No one that was rich before 2008 is poor after 2000.
00:10:10 8 right, that's.
00:10:12 Same thing.
00:10:12 It's gonna the same thing.
00:10:13 We've seen this before.
00:10:16 We've seen this before.
00:10:17 It doesn't really.
00:10:18 Matter all the rich people.
00:10:20 Of course, that's the other thing.
00:10:21 Too is all the.
00:10:21 Rich people took their money out.
00:10:25 I I wonder how they knew, right.
00:10:27 Right.
00:10:27 They they almost.
00:10:29 They almost have like this really accurate Magic 8 ball.
00:10:36 Certainly no insider training ever goes on.
00:10:39 That's just what it's like.
00:10:42 Of course, that's what it's like.
00:10:50 It's it it.
00:10:50 And look why?
00:10:51 Wouldn't you expect it to be like that?
00:10:53 There's zero oversight.
00:10:56 There's zero oversight.
00:11:03 When was, have we ever actually, I was gonna say, when is the last?
00:11:05 Time we we like executed a bank.
00:11:07 We've never executed a banker.
00:11:15 There's zero risk, the zero risk.
00:11:17 If you're in that game, zero risk in that game.
00:11:20 You know, how do you get into finance while you're born into a family that's in finance?
00:11:23 That's how you get into finance.
00:11:27 And then you're.
00:11:28 Just you're always in finance for centuries.
00:11:34 So yeah, all all these, you know, big money, people getting their money back and the people that get ****** are just like the the average, you know, Silicon Valley ****** that had a bank account there.
00:11:47 You know.
00:11:49 That is, what is the FDIC?
00:11:54 The FBI, the FDIC will insure your your deposits, I'm sure.
00:11:59 But whatever there's people like, it's it's interesting.
00:12:02 I've seen it spread a couple.
00:12:03 You know, you can see some of the ripples.
00:12:06 People that run Etsy stores as an example aren't getting paid.
00:12:11 Cause Etsy's account apparently was was at this at this bank.
00:12:16 But it doesn't.
00:12:17 Like I said it, it really doesn't matter.
00:12:22 You know the the, the little, the the mom.
00:12:25 With the Etsy store selling.
00:12:27 Garbage jewelry that no one actually wants.
00:12:33 She's not going to get her money.
00:12:34 For a while, but.
00:12:35 All the rich people get their money.
00:12:38 But yeah it it's you.
00:12:39 Know it is what it is.
00:12:41 It is.
00:12:41 What it is?
00:12:44 All these people will be made whole again.
00:12:47 No one will go to jail.
00:12:49 No one will be executed, which is what what needs to happen.
00:12:52 We just need we.
00:12:53 Just need.
00:12:55 For if if you really want.
00:12:58 They really want people to behave.
00:13:02 Yeah, you you have to set some examples.
00:13:06 You're going to have to set some examples.
00:13:10 Especially in the absence, you know it's funny because it used to be.
00:13:17 And this is going to really this is really gonna apply to what we're going to talk about tonight.
00:13:23 It used to be.
00:13:25 At the very least.
00:13:28 You had this.
00:13:31 And look, even if it even if it doesn't matter, even if it's superstition or something.
00:13:35 But you had some kind of religious.
00:13:42 Policing societies behavior, right?
00:13:46 Going back pretty you.
00:13:47 Know far back.
00:13:49 There's always even, you know.
00:13:50 People in the elite, you know?
00:13:52 Maybe they're trying to say you.
00:13:53 Know whatever.
00:13:53 But even the people in.
00:13:55 The elite on some.
00:13:56 Level think that there's some kind of supernatural aspect.
00:14:06 The consequences for what they do right that there, there, there might be some, some kind of cosmic consequences for what they do right, whether it's, oh, I don't want to go to hell when I die or or it's karma or just, but there's something, right, there's something.
00:14:27 Something supernatural.
00:14:30 That might punish them if they do things wrong.
00:14:33 OK, well, that's gone.
00:14:35 All these people are ******* atheists, right?
00:14:37 They're all *******.
00:14:38 Atheists, almost all of them, are ******* atheists.
00:14:43 So you got that or or look if and if they're not atheists, they're literally satanists like unironic, satanist.
00:14:51 So yeah, so that's gone.
00:14:53 Then you have the well. All right. Well, in in nations up until, oh, I don't know, like now. Or at least, you know, within the last 50-60 years.
00:15:04 Nations, you know, the people in charge of the nation, or at least related, even if it was, you know, not not closely related.
00:15:13 You know, even if there was, there was a a different caste or or class involved there, at least very genetically, similar to the people that they were governing.
00:15:24 Right.
00:15:26 Not anymore. That's gone.
00:15:31 That's gone too, OK.
00:15:35 So now what?
00:15:36 So all that's left.
00:15:38 Is some kind of oversight.
00:15:42 Mechanism that punishes them.
00:15:46 Ohh that that doesn't exist either.
00:15:51 Well, you know, there's one last thing.
00:15:54 There's one last thing.
00:15:58 And that is the people.
00:16:01 Taking taking things taking matters into their own hands because of all these other things, all these other things failing.
00:16:08 But I've yet to see any evidence of that that's about to.
00:16:11 Happen or.
00:16:12 Or or anything even remotely remotely resembling mob justice taking place.
Speaker 1
00:16:21 But that's yeah, so that that.Devon
00:16:23 Nothing's going to happen to these people. Nothing's gonna ******* happen to these people.00:16:27 In fact, I I think I saw some some news report just like an hour or so ago, before I was preparing for this stuff tonight.
00:16:36 That mentioned that they the bank.
00:16:38 They paid out all of their.
00:16:41 All of their bonuses to like the the upper level employees.
00:16:48 Just prior to announcing it, you know, so in addition to like all these big time, you know, you know Peter Thiel, right, gay, gay, Peter Thiel.
00:16:59 You know he wouldn't.
00:17:01 You know, it just he coincidentally took his cash out of before the.
00:17:05 The bank failed.
00:17:10 There you go.
00:17:13 There you go.
00:17:18 So that actually has.
00:17:19 To do with what we going to talk about tonight, a little bit in terms of there, there's nothing governing the behavior.
00:17:26 Of of of people at the top and this is this has been a long time coming and it's it's what we are witnessing with literally everything else that's going wrong with society in, in, in terms of.
00:17:37 Literally everything we'll give.
00:17:39 You different examples, but the one we're going to talk about tonight.
00:17:42 I was thinking about I was actually talking to a friend of mine.
00:17:46 And I was. I was remembering back way back in the day. It was like one of my first quote, UN quote, real jobs. One of my first non fast food jobs. Right. I worked at a a computer store.
00:18:03 And back when there was still, like mom and pop computer stores, you know which I think the the smartphone essentially annihilated any any market for that.
00:18:15 But there was a brief mark.
00:18:17 There was a little, well, actually know what it was just it was a brief moment, kind of like in the 60s and 70s it was.
00:18:23 Common to have TV repair shops, TV repair shops, radio repair shops and those don't exist anymore, right? Same thing with computers in the 90s and in early 2000s there were computer repair shops.
00:18:39 You'd spend.
00:18:41 $5000 in in 90s money on a computer.
00:18:46 And uh, if something broke, you would take.
00:18:48 Into one of these.
00:18:49 Mom and pop computer shops and there was more than one in the town that I lived in.
00:18:53 There was actually a few of them, and I worked at one of the bigger ones I was, you know, one of the ohh he's good with computers.
00:19:01 He's he's a wizard.
00:19:02 He's a Wiz kid.
00:19:05 You know, so I got to to fix computers.
00:19:07 At a very young age.
00:19:09 And it one of the things that was difficult was hiring new people that knew what the hell they were doing.
00:19:16 So I and and you know, especially for my boss, cause he wasn't always up till with the newest stuff.
00:19:22 So he when he was doing interviews, he'd want me to like be in on it so.
00:19:27 So we could get someone knew what they were talking about.
00:19:32 And one day we went to higher.
00:19:35 A guy who was a manager.
00:19:39 At a competing computer shop.
00:19:42 And they had recently gone out of business.
00:19:47 And in the interview.
00:19:50 We asked him, well, what?
00:19:51 What happened over there?
00:19:52 Like why?
00:19:54 Why did you guys go out of business?
00:19:55 You were bigger than us, you know, you had, like, a a big, big location with, you know, like a a sales floor and all these computers on display and and, you know, you guys are like, the the top dog.
00:20:11 And I, and I remember he looked really uncomfortable and he just looked.
00:20:15 And he mumbled and like what?
00:20:19 And he said EverQuest.
00:20:24 And I said.
00:20:24 That EverQuest isn't that like a ******* game or something.
00:20:28 I think I've heard.
00:20:28 Some about that and he said, yeah.
00:20:31 It's a game.
00:20:33 It's a online game.
00:20:36 And everyone that worked at this computer place.
00:20:41 Uh became so ridiculously.
00:20:47 Addicted to this game that the company ceased to function, the owner got a divorce because he was cheating on his wife with some girl on in Everett.
00:21:00 For those of.
00:21:00 You don't know what EverQuest is and and don't worry if you.
00:21:03 I mean, it's that it actually makes you cooler if you don't cause.
00:21:09 EverQuest was this really, really gay.
00:21:13 Massive was massively multiplayer online MMO part.
00:21:17 I forget what the acronym is, but the.
00:21:21 Really **** graphics.
00:21:22 It was kind of like World of Warcraft before World of Warcraft.
00:21:26 You know, it was like this.
00:21:27 It was like second life for nerds, like even nerdier than second.
00:21:31 Life in a.
00:21:31 Way it was, it was like a mixture of of of dungeons and Dragons and.
00:21:40 Being really gay on the.
00:21:45 I guess that's the way to put it.
00:21:47 I I I look and at the time I I consider myself an avid gamer.
00:21:51 I just thought.
00:21:52 Those games were for.
00:21:53 **** and they pretty much were for.
00:21:54 Faggs, mostly because it had A at a monthly subscription fee.
00:21:59 Which automatically for.
00:22:01 Me if I bought your game, that should be it.
00:22:04 I shouldn't have to keep buying things from you.
00:22:06 I never would buy, you know, add-ons or, you know, whatever, right.
00:22:12 And especially wouldn't pay a subscription.
00:22:14 I just thought that was super gay.
00:22:16 The other thing I didn't like about this game, you know, every quest.
00:22:20 And World of Warcraft and stuff like games like it.
00:22:25 Where that they didn't stop.
00:22:26 Like the name implies, it doesn't stop, it just keeps going.
00:22:32 Right.
00:22:32 So if you start playing, see I I played at the time I was playing Unreal Tournament.
00:22:39 If I joined a server.
00:22:41 And played for 20 minutes.
00:22:43 You know, maybe maybe less.
00:22:46 The games over and the next tournament starts, and that's not to say that I I was.
00:22:52 I was not a like I was probably just as addicted on real tournament is is the the freaks that played EverQuest were to EverQuest.
00:22:59 It's just that I could I could step out of the game at any.
00:23:03 And and I didn't have to worry about anything bad happening to my character while I was gone or missing out on something.
00:23:12 There was No Fear of missing out.
00:23:15 I could just stop playing.
00:23:17 And that was that.
00:23:19 Whereas EverQuest just kept going and going and going and going and going and same thing with World of Warcraft right there were it was actually way bigger than I thought it was.
00:23:30 I was looking into it recently or like today I guess and and it was they had something like 5 based like half a million people were paying that subscription fee.
00:23:39 From every month.
00:23:42 Half a million people.
00:23:44 We're paying.
00:23:45 I think it was like.
00:23:46 15 bucks a month.
00:23:50 $15.00 a month.
00:23:52 From half a million people every month, Sony Entertainment, I think, was the the parent company.
00:23:59 That was just and that that was just the subscription fee you had to buy the game and.
00:24:03 I'm sure they sold, like, gay **** that you had to buy inside the.
00:24:06 Game and stuff like that.
00:24:09 But the so this guy that we're interviewing, he said, yeah, EverQuest.
00:24:14 Destroyed that company.
00:24:16 The uh the owner had this weird E relationship with this girl.
00:24:21 His wife did did the same thing.
00:24:24 His wife also cause she worked there too.
00:24:27 Also was playing EverQuest.
00:24:30 Also started like talking to some dude and was E cheating.
00:24:34 And then.
00:24:35 You know, this is like the year 2000.
00:24:39 OK, this is this is based. This is the year 2000 like this isn't.
00:24:43 You know they're online dating, I'm sure existed, but not really right.
00:24:49 Like you pretty much.
00:24:50 It was one of those things where?
00:24:53 Yeah, that was super fringe.
00:24:54 There was no Tinder.
00:24:56 There was, there was definitely, you know, well, there's no, you know, there's no smartphone.
00:25:00 So none of that stuff existed.
00:25:02 But there weren't even.
Speaker 7
00:25:04 The the websites that you.Devon
00:25:05 Know about today, you know, like I you.00:25:07 Know I I.
00:25:08 Doubt. OK, Cupid existed. I don't think. And even like the, you know, like the eHarmony or match.
00:25:14 Dot com not none.
00:25:15 Of those exist.
00:25:17 There there.
00:25:17 I'm sure there were online matchmaker services and stuff like that, but nothing, nothing like that was mainstream.
00:25:25 There wasn't any social media.
00:25:28 This was before Myspace, even before Facebook, you know, before Twitter, any of that stuff, you know?
Speaker 7
00:25:38 There did exist.Devon
00:25:40 Socializing on the Internet, you know, you had AOL chat rooms and.00:25:45 Stuff like that.
00:25:47 But it was a.
00:25:48 Totally different thing.
00:25:52 You also, so it was for me to hear this at the at the.
00:25:56 At the time.
00:25:57 And again, this is I was a nerd.
00:25:59 I was a nerd that worked at a computer store and and played a lot of ******* video games and or at least I thought until I started talking to this guy.
00:26:10 And I remember just being really.
00:26:12 Kind of surprised that.
00:26:15 So many people at this company would be so addicted to this game that the company would fail.
00:26:21 That they people would literally stop going to work.
00:26:27 And they they they would literally shut the the they would close, they would.
00:26:30 Lock the doors.
00:26:32 To the company like to the the computer store.
00:26:36 And and play and just play the game in the backroom instead of being open for business.
00:26:43 And so he's telling us all this, and I'm just like, what the ****, this shit's crazy.
00:26:51 And it always stuck with me.
00:26:52 It always stuck with me that like wow.
00:26:54 That's that's insane.
00:26:58 And so I didn't think.
00:26:59 About it for a long time.
00:27:01 But after telling someone about that.
00:27:05 I decided to do some research.
00:27:07 And didn't realize this.
00:27:08 Apparently this was actually a.
00:27:10 Pretty common thing.
00:27:12 Even going to that degree.
00:27:15 Of obsession over EverQuest specifically.
00:27:20 You know there, there is even a a CBS 48 hours addicted to EverQuest.
00:27:29 There were newspaper articles written about like I. I dug up some newspaper articles from, well, the year 2000, like, right around that same time.
00:27:40 Were tons of people.
Speaker 9
00:27:42 Are are, are.Devon
00:27:43 Reportedly addicted to this this ******* game.00:27:48 There were people on tech TV, if you remember.
00:27:51 That, that really *****.
00:27:52 I don't even know was.
00:27:53 That like a.
00:27:55 I can't remember if that was like a actual cable network or just like a really bad show.
00:27:59 I just remember like anytime I watched anything on that I was just like, uh, who are these ******* people, where they get them?
00:28:05 But there was a tech TV episode like Ohh, Addicted to EverQuest.
00:28:10 There was like I found all kinds of stuff talking about EverQuest addictions.
00:28:14 It was insane.
00:28:17 And I want to talk about a few of them.
00:28:19 Let's take let's let's have a little.
00:28:21 Look, see at this.
00:28:23 But I wanna talk about why?
00:28:25 What what that has in common with the the banks failing.
00:28:34 Let's see here.
00:28:36 And why we have this kind of addiction and what that means?
00:28:42 In terms of like how that translates into behavior today, because here's the other weird thing.
00:28:49 A lot of these articles I dug up.
00:28:52 They were talking about this, this.
00:28:57 Game addiction.
00:28:58 You know that this new phenomenon.
00:29:01 Where people were spending tons of time playing video games.
00:29:05 They were talking about it as if, you know, cause it is.
00:29:08 It was this new thing.
00:29:11 In in a way that sounds insane today because so many people today this is.
00:29:17 Just normal behavior now.
00:29:19 But it was just so.
00:29:19 Outside the norm that you would just sit in front of a computer and play a game for hours on end instead of actually doing with your life.
Speaker 10
00:29:30 For years, video games have been a popular pastime for kids and adults, but a new generation of games is taking things to a whole new level.00:29:38 And it's happening right now on the net.
00:29:40 Erin o'hearn is here with all the details on this, Aaron.
Speaker 11
00:29:43 Well, Jim, in the past you would play a game, reach the end and game over, but now the virtual experience of these new unending games feels so real.00:29:53 It can literally draw the player into another world, and some parents and doctors are growing concerned about the consequences.
00:30:10 But Greg's draft playing World of Warcraft has become an obsession, one that has isolated him from riding his bike and interacting with his friends. All his interaction, he says, is done over this online medieval fantasy game.
Speaker 12
00:30:24 I can log on at 3:00 when I get home from school and play till 7 and I feel.00:30:28 Like only an hour.
00:30:29 It's really not healthy.
00:30:30 Just to focus on this computer game and not socialize with your friends.
Devon
00:30:37 By the way.00:30:37 I'm we're going to talk a little bit more about, you know, what he just said about how I'll, I'll get and I think anyone who's ever played video games can relate to that.
00:30:45 Oh, I I'll start playing video games at at 3:00 in the afternoon and and, you know, then it's next.
00:30:50 Thing I know at.
00:30:50 7:00, right, that that there's something that very.
00:30:55 Fundamental to getting people addicted to video games in terms of losing track of time, but we'll we'll get back to that in a minute.
00:31:04 The other thing that drives me nuts about this news report is the the.
00:31:10 I don't know.
00:31:10 I'm assuming single mom.
00:31:12 I don't see Dad anywhere who's, like, just complaining about it to the news but it whilst.
Speaker 10
00:31:22 You actually you.Devon
00:31:23 Think this is Madden?00:31:24 It's way worse.
00:31:25 We're going to see a a husband that that basically is ignoring his children.
00:31:30 Well, playing never quest, but anyway.
Speaker 12
00:31:33 Socialize with your friends and not.00:31:36 Be a little more concerned about your school work.
Speaker 11
00:31:38 In the Internet game World of Warcraft, you design your own character.00:31:42 Then you can talk to other people or participate in battles.
00:31:45 There's really no goal or end.
00:31:47 The game can go on and on, psychologist Kristen Dudley says.
00:31:51 That can draw you into an.
00:31:53 Unhealthy life of isolation.
Speaker 3
00:31:54 There is no end endpoint, so people feel compelled to keep playing.Speaker 11
00:32:01 Smith Woolly said to James.Devon
00:32:01 The amount, that's the other thing.00:32:03 That I found a lot about this.
00:32:07 All the reporting is there. There seem to be this focus on and I think it's an important component. And as I mentioned earlier, when this guy was explaining to me that everyone that he worked with played this ******* game, I thought to myself, yeah, I can just stop playing Unreal Tournament after, you know, 1020 minutes, the game's over. Not a big deal. I don't lose anything.
00:32:28 I'm not trying to level some ******* character up to level 50 and then, Oh my God, it's all gone.
00:32:32 If I don't, you know.
00:32:34 I'm gonna.
00:32:34 I'm gonna.
00:32:34 I'm not gonna outpace, you know, Jimmy.
00:32:37 Because I stopped playing for a couple of days and Jimmy's gonna, you know, there's none of that, right.
00:32:41 Like I'm I I can be fiercely competitive for 20 minutes against someone else and then it all resets for everybody, you know, 20 minutes later and that there is a huge, huge I guess.
00:32:57 Behavioral modification.
00:33:00 The component to having it never end like that, right?
00:33:04 And you know another, I guess a a slightly something that everyone can relate to that uses websites, which is pretty much everyone listening to this or like Twitter, even one of the things that they they they they this is I guess it's kind of weird.
00:33:20 It's like this is not how web pages used to be, but the infinite scrolling right.
00:33:25 It's the same thing infinite scrolling now.
00:33:27 Now they call it doom scrolling, but the ability to infinitely Scroll down a page, scrolling down the page, it never ******* ends.
00:33:35 It's not like, oh, let me see what's on Twitter.
00:33:38 Scroll, scroll, scroll OK.
00:33:39 I just saw everything that's on Twitter.
00:33:41 No, it's like you, you can scroll forever and it'll you'll never reach the bottom of, you know, Twitter.
00:33:47 And it's it's.
00:33:48 It's the same mechanism.
00:33:50 It's the same thing.
00:33:50 It's to keep you addicted.
00:33:51 It's to keep you engaged with that, with no end insight.
00:33:55 And again, we'll get a little more specific into that, but it's weird that that's what they focus on so much in this news report.
00:34:03 Like, that's the only aspect of it is the.
00:34:05 Ohh and and.
Speaker 7
00:34:06 The other other.Devon
00:34:08 Articles I found that talk about people being addicted to EverQuest or World of Warcraft.00:34:14 It was the same thing.
00:34:14 It was like this big focus on, well, it never ends.
00:34:17 And I'm sure that that's, you know that's that's a big component.
00:34:20 That's not the only thing.
Speaker 11
00:34:22 Games similar to World of Warcraft, called EverQuest, didn't just cause her 21 year old son to become a recluse.00:34:29 She believes it contributed to his suicide.
Speaker 13
00:34:32 He was sitting there in front of the computer on his chair with the EverQuest Game on.00:34:38 And he had a.
Speaker 11
00:34:39 Rifle Woolley says her son Sean, played EverQuest constantly, stopped taking his ADHD and epilepsy medicine, quit his job and cut off his phone, basically ending all communication with his friends and family.Speaker 13
00:34:51 I guess my.Devon
00:34:53 So this this guy we'll get a little more into this guy.00:34:56 This guy is like the poster child for Forever quest addiction, so I'm gonna skip over this and cause we're gonna get more into him specifically.
Speaker 14
00:34:59 It looks.Speaker
00:35:10 Alright, let me.Devon
00:35:13 I had a screen capture that.00:35:16 That report.
00:35:17 So hang on one second.
00:35:18 Let me pull it up here real.
00:35:19 Quick because it's a.
00:35:21 News report from 20 years ago in Canada.
00:35:27 And I just had to figure out where it downloaded it to.
Speaker
00:35:32 OK.Speaker 15
00:35:34 Here we are.Devon
00:35:46 OK.Speaker 16
00:35:50 25 to 30 hours a week of playing appears common. So what is it about this game that makes people want to spend so much of their lives online?Speaker 3
00:36:00 It kind of takes your mind off of things and it kind of allows you just to kind of.Speaker 17
00:36:05 Escape anyway.Speaker 16
00:36:07 Escape into not just a game, but another world where players pay $15.00 a month to join an online community to chat, solve quests, and slay Dragons even when the computer is off.00:36:19 Game goes on, it never ends.
00:36:24 Hudson, WI.
00:36:25 Home for Liz Woolley.
Devon
00:36:26 Figure that was, you know, more.00:36:28 Focus on it never ends.
00:36:30 It never ends.
00:36:32 Now think about this.
00:36:33 Think this way.
00:36:35 If you, if you look at the the never ending aspect of it, that's exactly how social media is.
00:36:41 There's no end to Facebook, right?
00:36:44 There's no again, not just in in, like when I was talking about Twitter, scrolling down the infinite scrolling, I mean, like, there's never, like a conclusion.
00:36:54 To Facebook, it just goes on forever, right?
00:36:57 Or presumably until.
00:36:59 It goes out of business or whatever.
00:37:01 And that's how every social media product is.
00:37:04 It's just if it goes on, you know, forever.
00:37:08 That it's not like a book that like, oh, I'm going to read this book or this series of books.
00:37:13 And now it's over, you know, or I'm going to watch this movie.
00:37:18 Now it's over.
00:37:22 No, it just it never ends.
00:37:24 There's never a ******* end.
00:37:26 So yeah, it's an important component, but I just find that they only focus on.
00:37:29 That well, not only, but a lot.
00:37:31 They put a lot of focus on that.
Speaker 16
00:37:32 She watched her 21 year old son Sean disappear.Speaker 13
00:37:36 You wanted to play the game.00:37:38 Songs we could play, he could play the.
00:37:40 Game he was happy.
Speaker 16
00:37:42 But increasingly, playing EverQuest was the only thing that made Sean happy.00:37:46 Liz had him diagnosed.
00:37:48 Sure enough, he was suffering from depression.
00:37:50 She blames the game.
Speaker 13
00:37:52 He was really, you know, getting.00:37:54 With strong he.
00:37:55 Was his.
Devon
00:37:55 Now, here's the other thing too.00:37:59 But a lot of the discussion among surrounding this topic, not just, you know, Internet or computer game addiction, but you know, ohh what about the influence that violent video games have?
00:38:12 You get a lot of really pisssed off gamers.
00:38:18 Then I'll have to say sound a lot like drug addicts that sound a lot like potheads, right?
00:38:24 When you start talking about how maybe pots not good for you.
00:38:29 What are you always here?
00:38:30 Ohh Potts.
00:38:31 Not addictive.
00:38:33 I can quit whenever I want.
Speaker 7
00:38:36 I just really like it.Devon
00:38:40 But I can stop Potts not addictive.00:38:43 OK, maybe there's some crazy people that smoke pot all the time and you know, they they ignore their their babies and the crib and, you know, neglect their children because they're getting.
00:38:52 High on it, that's not me.
00:38:54 They just can't handle it the way I.
00:38:56 Can handle it.
00:38:58 Like it's it's the same.
00:38:59 It's the same language.
00:39:00 It's literally the same language.
00:39:02 You you talk to people, you know, video gamers about this stuff and say like ohh, what do you think about video?
Speaker 7
00:39:07 Game addiction?00:39:08 Well, I'm not addicted.
Devon
00:39:10 I just like playing this game.00:39:13 I could stop whatever I want.
00:39:15 Those people, those freaks like this guy in this this show.
00:39:20 He's just a freak.
00:39:22 He just couldn't handle it.
00:39:23 I can handle it.
00:39:27 Ah, and they they try to make it sound ridiculous that, you know, you get, like, the libertarian argument, right?
00:39:36 Right, that that.
00:39:37 Ohh that she's trying to play.
00:39:39 Blame the game.
00:39:40 She's blaming the game instead of focusing on personal responsibility.
00:39:45 Right?
00:39:45 We're all individuals.
00:39:48 Rule individuals and we are all personally responsible for our actions.
00:39:55 There's nothing else that should figure into the equation.
00:39:59 We're all just.
00:40:00 These floating atoms.
00:40:03 And whatever we encounter, that's that's strictly our business.
00:40:08 No one else has a responsibility whatsoever.
00:40:11 It's all on you.
00:40:15 You're not part of a group.
00:40:18 The group has has no responsibility to look out for you.
00:40:26 And people wonder why.
00:40:29 Well, like like, why this woman?
00:40:30 In this video is fat.
00:40:34 Because food manufacturers are the.
00:40:37 Same way.
00:40:37 Ohh you don't like McDonald's?
00:40:41 Well, maybe you shouldn't eat.
00:40:42 There's nothing wrong with McDonald's.
00:40:44 You just.
00:40:44 Shouldn't eat it?
Speaker 7
00:40:44 Like for three meals a day, every day.Devon
00:40:47 That's your fault for eating that.00:40:48 Eating it like a fat ****, you fat ****.
00:40:52 I eat McDonald's and I'm not fat.
00:40:59 It's the same ****, right?
00:41:02 Without the guidance.
00:41:05 That we talked about at the very beginning of the string, that the same things that that the bankers don't have.
00:41:11 As as motivation as carrots or sticks, right, they when you're a capitalist that doesn't have any kind of religious or or supernatural aspect to your decision making, you don't think there's anything bigger than what happens immediately in real life in terms of the consequences.
00:41:32 For your actions.
00:41:36 When you don't have.
00:41:37 Any connection to your customer base, the people that you're you're making the money off of.
00:41:45 You don't feel connected to them culturally, genetically, anything.
00:41:49 They're just they're just suckers.
00:41:55 And you don't get punished.
00:41:58 When you **** **.
00:42:01 When you accidentally **** ** and kill a bunch.
00:42:03 Of people, Pfizer, Pfizer, Pfizer.
00:42:07 Nothing happens.
00:42:20 That's that's really what's wrong with everything in our.
00:42:23 Society right now.
00:42:26 There's no carrots or sticks.
00:42:28 Once you get above.
00:42:29 Once you get above a certain level.
00:42:33 Once you have a a certain amount of wealth.
00:42:35 Once you're in the club.
Speaker 7
00:42:42 The only the only rule at at.Devon
00:42:44 At that point, is.00:42:46 Maximize profits.
00:42:50 Do what thou wilt.
00:42:55 And let's let's make fun of this.
00:42:56 This fat boomer relating cause her her dork son who played ever queer all the time, killed himself like a ******.
Speaker 7
00:43:12 Right.Devon
00:43:14 He should have known better.00:43:17 ******* ******.
Speaker
00:43:20 Chuck it.Devon
00:43:24 I'm stronger and.00:43:25 Smarter because I didn't.
00:43:26 I didn't let the video game addiction.
00:43:31 Pull me down to that level.
Speaker 7
00:43:34 I I'm sure I ******.00:43:35 Up a lot of.
Devon
00:43:37 Job opportunities because instead of self improving I was, you know, just playing ******* virtual Cowboys and Indians.00:43:48 As an adult.
00:43:52 Probably missed out a lot of social.
00:44:03 You know, one aspect of it, we'll get into a little bit later.
00:44:05 A lot of men will say well.
00:44:06 I play video games.
00:44:12 Because women are *******.
00:44:15 Or something, right?
00:44:16 Like it's part of your.
00:44:17 Mig Tao therapy, right?
00:44:25 I don't know.
00:44:25 I think it might be one of those chicken and the.
00:44:27 Egg kind of situations.
00:44:35 But anyway, let's let's see what this hysterical this hysterical Karen has to say.
Speaker 13
00:44:44 Listen to me.00:44:45 We were fighting.
00:44:46 I became the bad person.
00:44:48 I was trying to keep him away from his enjoyment.
00:44:50 And if I'd just leave him alone, he'd be happy.
Speaker 16
00:44:52 What's happy there is that is that before a request.00:44:54 Yes, a little grumpy in this one.
Speaker 13
00:44:58 This was in July of 2001 and it was his brother's wedding and he had to quit playing the game to come to the wedding.00:45:06 And I know that Sean actually left the wedding early, like in the middle of the ceremony.
00:45:12 He went back to play the game.
00:45:13 He didn't go to the reception or anything.
00:45:16 That's how obsessed he was with it.
Speaker 16
00:45:18 It was getting close to Thanksgiving, and Liz wanted to invite Sean over for a family supper, but he disconnected his phone and wouldn't answer his door.Speaker 13
00:45:27 He wouldn't let people come into his house anymore.00:45:31 He quit cleaning it.
00:45:32 He didn't go grocery shopping.
00:45:34 He just bring home food, home from work.
Speaker 16
00:45:37 It's called Sean at the pizza outlet where he worked, but his boss said he hadn't shown up in days.00:45:43 Finally, on Thanksgiving morning, Liz tried her son's apartment one last time.
Speaker 13
00:45:48 I opened the door and then there he was sitting in front of the computer with the rifle and he shot himself and I just.Speaker 18
00:45:57 Looked at it.Speaker 13
00:45:58 And it was EverQuest.00:46:00 Screen was on and I just said.
00:46:03 I just knew it was from the game.
00:46:05 I just said all.
00:46:06 That game he shot himself cause of the game.
Speaker 16
00:46:10 So these were the computers, your son.Speaker 13
00:46:11 Used this is the one he started.Devon
00:46:14 And again, it's real easy.00:46:16 Gamers will be like, ohh, what that ******* that dumb cow.
00:46:20 That stupid cow.
00:46:27 Her, her idiot son.
00:46:31 He just kill himself because he's a he.
00:46:33 Was an idiot.
00:46:35 In fact, I mean that's.
00:46:37 You know that.
00:46:37 One of the popular shock jocks of the time, Opie and Anthony, by the way, also they played EverQuest.
00:46:45 All the time.
00:46:48 They reported on this story.
00:46:49 This is what they had to say.
00:46:51 They literally said exactly that.
Speaker 8
00:46:53 So what's going on with every question?Speaker 5
00:46:55 Anthony will be a a tragedy.00:46:56 In the news here.
00:46:58 Death of a game addict. Get this story and this tool. Mother of this tool, 21 year old.
00:47:07 Shawn Woolley he loved online.
00:47:10 Computer game, an online computer game so much that he played it just.
Speaker 8
00:47:13 Minutes before his.Speaker 5
00:47:14 Suicide 21 year old Hudson man.00:47:17 Addicted to EverQuest?
00:47:19 That's your game.
00:47:20 That's the game.
Speaker 19
00:47:21 I play opening.Speaker 5
00:47:22 That's your drug of choice.00:47:23 That's my drug of choice.
Speaker 19
00:47:25 It's been called ever, queer, ever crack.00:47:28 I'm not alone.
00:47:29 Our own Keith cop over here loves, loves the game.
00:47:32 I've I was like the drug addict who kind of said, Hey, Keith playing.
00:47:36 This game here.
00:47:37 And you check it out.
Speaker 15
00:47:37 Eggs. Eggs.Speaker 5
00:47:38 And it's a horror show.00:47:39 It is consumed my life.
Speaker 19
00:47:41 It is totally consumed his life.00:47:44 To the point where he now.
00:47:45 Like the first thing.
Speaker 5
00:47:46 He says to me, or I say to.Speaker 19
00:47:48 Him when he.Speaker 5
00:47:48 Comes in the building goes doing lovely up.00:47:50 To man.
00:47:51 What are you doing?
00:47:51 I call and.
00:47:52 Leave messages on his.
00:47:53 Yeah, he leaves messages about what server he's on and.
00:47:56 You know what?
00:47:56 He's got more equipment.
Speaker 20
00:48:00 It just it takes up your.Speaker 5
00:48:01 Life it takes up every minute of your life.00:48:03 It's a massive multiplayer.
00:48:06 Online role-playing game, EverQuest, Great Graphics now, 3D virtual world. They got over 400,000 people worldwide. Subscribe to this playing it.
00:48:18 So what they call a never ending a fantasy game?
00:48:22 Well, Shawn Woolley shot himself to death in his apartment.
00:48:26 His mother.
00:48:26 Claims EverQuest.
00:48:30 That is why I unload my gun before.
00:48:33 I play this game every single time and I put.
00:48:36 The bullets in.
Speaker 21
00:48:36 The car and I and.Speaker 19
00:48:37 It's very good.Speaker 5
00:48:38 I have it padlocked and I let my girlfriend.Devon
00:48:41 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.00:48:50 Let's not worry about what this might be doing to society, especially not long time or long term.
00:49:01 Look at lots of people.
00:49:02 It's kind of weird how many people have stories like this.
00:49:05 I I again, I feel like I dodged a bullet or something.
00:49:08 I don't know.
00:49:08 But I just I could never be gay enough to play this *******.
00:49:12 It was like all these.
Speaker 7
00:49:13 Little in the middle, you know.Speaker 2
00:49:16 Like all that **** was just so.Devon
00:49:17 Gay to me.00:49:18 But this is a.
00:49:20 This is a.
00:49:21 A professional sports ball player.
00:49:24 Millionaire professional sports ball player.
Speaker 22
00:49:27 The most vivid memory of of EverQuest for me, was probably the moment I'm probably least proud of as well, which was we were playing in Florida against the Marlins and we had a day game followed by an off day followed by a night game. The day game got rained out and I logged into EverQuest at about 2:00 in the afternoon.00:49:49 And I logged out at about 1:00.
00:49:51 In the afternoon on Tuesday.
00:49:53 Two showers, 7:00 or 8:00 room service orders.
00:49:56 I never left the.
00:49:57 Game. Wow.
00:49:59 And and it was like, no sleep, nothing.
00:50:01 When I was done, it was like.
00:50:03 What did I just do?
Devon
00:50:06 But it's totally not addictive.00:50:09 Totally not addictive.
Speaker 7
00:50:11 Right.Devon
00:50:12 Like the the fact that they that, that, that Sony Entertainment literally hired psychologists when developing the game to figure out how to get people to keep playing the game.00:50:27 Ignore that.
00:50:29 That that, that's.
00:50:31 Of course they did that, right.
00:50:36 They're just trying to maximize your enjoyment.
00:50:42 It's just, it's just a game, bro.
00:50:45 Just a ******* game, bro.
00:50:51 So this is 48 hours. This is the news report I was talking about that they did around the same time. They I think they covered that case.
00:51:00 But look at the this guy.
00:51:04 They're literally at his house to interfere.
00:51:08 He can't even ******* stop playing ever quest.
00:51:12 Long enough.
00:51:13 To look her in the eye while being interviewed about EverQuest.
Speaker 23
00:51:19 In the comfort of home, Jerry Griffin.00:51:22 This giant lizard.
Speaker 24
00:51:25 He's as wailing on.Speaker 23
00:51:26 Him who likes to kill things so he's.00:51:28 Almost dead. So he's.
Speaker
00:51:29 Almost dead.Speaker 20
00:51:30 So here's.Speaker 8
00:51:30 Oops, there it goes.Speaker 23
00:51:31 The he's on it constantly.00:51:35 'S wife, Renee.
Speaker 8
00:51:36 He has got to play the game the minute he gets.Speaker 23
00:51:38 In the House, see, he knows he eats his meals. Here he that's his table. Is this true? The imaginary world that consumes Griffin's life is a game.Devon
00:51:51 His focus never leaves.00:51:53 Just look.
00:51:54 Look, his focus.
00:51:57 Ever leaves the screen.
00:51:59 Look, I've seen 10 year olds act like this.
00:52:02 Or, you know, women with their phones.
00:52:05 But this is it.
00:52:06 It's it's just stunning to watch a man at in this time period.
00:52:11 Who has, who has CBS News at his house interviewing him?
00:52:19 And it's just like he's just he's just totally zoned out.
00:52:23 Which again, we'll talk about in a second.
Speaker 23
00:52:26 An online role-playing computer game called EverQuest Ever Quest.Speaker 25
00:52:32 We got a couple of people from Australia.00:52:35 We had people from England.
Speaker 23
00:52:36 About 100,000 people around the world are playing it at any given moment.Speaker 20
00:52:42 Portland, Missouri.00:52:43 So all over the.
Speaker 23
00:52:44 Place everyone pays a monthly subscription fee, usually about 13 bucks, to get in on the action. Joining other made-up characters on wild adventurers.Speaker 24
00:52:54 So you can pick.Speaker 23
00:52:55 Your face. OK, there's.Devon
00:52:58 By the way.00:53:03 If you think.
00:53:05 And this is this is this is pretty standard now, right?
00:53:08 It's not just these super long never ending you?
Speaker 7
00:53:12 Know old wolf dwarf?00:53:15 I'm a paladin.
Devon
00:53:17 You know it's it's, it's not.00:53:19 It's not just that it's not just those types of games now that that let you design A character, right?
00:53:25 Like, let me let.
00:53:26 Let me design A character.
00:53:30 If you think.
00:53:32 That that hasn't had an influence.
00:53:34 On this ****** ****, you're ******* ********.
00:53:39 You're ******* ********.
00:53:42 You don't think that having children?
00:53:47 From a from a A from age 0.
00:53:51 Interacting with a virtual world where they get to pick exactly what they look like and and.
00:53:58 And magical powers, they have what sex they are.
00:54:02 All this stuff.
00:54:02 You don't think that that.
00:54:04 Changes the way.
00:54:05 They perceive what is normal in terms of of accepting someone's assumed identity IRL.
00:54:24 Not that it's healthy, but I would say it's probably a little bit healthier.
00:54:29 When you have games where you you, you know.
00:54:31 You play as a as a as a already existing character.
00:54:37 You know you're you're.
00:54:38 Not when you're playing Ninja Turtles in the arcade in the 80s or 90s.
00:54:45 You know, you don't think you don't go home thinking you're Donatello.
00:54:50 You know what I mean?
00:54:52 But with this, with this personalization stuff.
00:54:57 Creating your own avatar.
00:55:01 That's exactly what led to this ****.
00:55:03 But anyway.
Speaker 23
00:55:06 They're sort of online interactive scavenger hunts.00:55:09 You kill enemies and Vanquish rivals and overcome obstacles along the way.
00:55:15 So we're in a tunnel, right?
00:55:17 We're in a tunnel.
Speaker 13
00:55:18 We're in a cube.Speaker 23
00:55:19 But along the way to what?00:55:21 Well, to more EverQuest, this game never ends.
00:55:25 No one ever wins, and they'll be looking for something.
00:55:28 Or is.
00:55:28 Somebody after us or what?
00:55:29 What's off somebody?
Devon
00:55:30 No one ever wins which.00:55:32 Means everyone who plays is a ******* loser.
Speaker 15
00:55:36 By what?Devon
00:55:38 I like how he's he's he's got *******.00:55:39 Two monitors rolling on this or.
00:55:41 Is that 3 monitors?
00:55:42 Man, I don't even know I like again.
00:55:44 Never ******* played this thing.
Speaker 23
00:55:45 He just ran by.00:55:46 Yeah, the reward is in the play.
00:55:49 And that just goes on forever.
00:55:51 You really do have to just play and play and.
00:55:53 Play and play.
00:55:56 These games didn't even.
00:55:58 Exist a decade ago, but it's projected that in three years, more than 100 million people will be playing them.
00:56:05 And one in 10, researchers say, will have trouble quitting.
Devon
00:56:09 Watch as he ignores his family.Speaker 23
00:56:09 For some, it can be as hard as giving up an addictive drug.Devon
00:56:13 We're taking forever to kill.Speaker 20
00:56:15 This guy.Speaker 23
00:56:16 As the most popular such game ever ever quest, its critics say, ought to be called ever crack.00:56:23 Did you lose ground because we were doing an?
Speaker 21
00:56:25 Interview. No, not really.Speaker 23
00:56:27 Jerry so deeply into the game, it's hard to keep his attention even when you're talking to him.00:56:32 Do you think this is a dip?
Speaker
00:56:35 It can be.Speaker 23
00:56:36 Do you think that he is, in a sense addicted to this game?00:56:41 Oh yeah, definitely.
00:56:42 He's definitely addicted to he.
00:56:43 He won't admit it.
00:56:45 He is.
00:56:46 He can't live without it.
00:56:47 Jerry admits to playing at least 20 hours a.
Speaker 14
00:56:51 Week gets up in the morning and plays.Speaker 23
00:56:53 Before he goes to work and he's been playing now for almost three years.00:56:58 I want my girls to be able to have him as a father, not not.
Speaker 12
00:57:02 As a as a.Speaker 23
00:57:02 Fixture in our house in front of the.00:57:04 Computer, are you at all?
Devon
00:57:07 So this this.00:57:08 Just kind of gets into what I was talking about earlier about the chicken and the egg thing people saying, well, I play video games because, you know, socializing with, you know, as a young man, socializing with women is is not is off the table or whatever.
00:57:21 It's kind of funny because I'm when I'm doing the research into this, you know what?
00:57:25 How this was being reported.
00:57:27 On in in the you know around the year 2000 it was, it was an opposite.
00:57:34 Telling of the story, it was men that had girlfriends.
00:57:38 Or wives in this guys case who just are playing this video game and totally ignored their their family.
00:57:46 Until they ignored their girlfriend.
00:57:49 In fact, there was a an entire website that was set up that was for EverQuest.
00:57:55 Widows is what they called it.
00:58:01 And so this is a a news story.
Speaker 15
00:58:07 It popped up.Devon
00:58:08 Put this up briefly.00:58:12 So this was the Chicago Tribune.
00:58:16 In February 4th, 2001.
00:58:21 OK, let me.
00:58:24 Shrink that down so you actually see it or whatever.
00:58:31 Alright, it's reads cheated on.
00:58:34 You're in good company.
00:58:36 Left in the lurch for someone with.
00:58:39 More money hey?
00:58:40 It happens.
00:58:41 Sure, it hurts being lied to, locked out, or just flat dumped.
00:58:46 But you can take comfort in knowing you're one of many who have been through the same thing.
00:58:53 But what if you use your lose your lover to a video game? That's what happened to Amanda Erickson, a 24 year old mother from.
00:59:03 I don't know Chippewa.
00:59:04 Chippewa, falls, WI, she says her fiancee, the father of her seven month old daughter, has abandoned her for a net connected game called EverQuest.
00:59:16 Is she exaggerating?
00:59:17 You decide.
00:59:19 She says her fiancee stays logged into the fantasy role-playing game for as many as 20 hours a day.
00:59:27 A day.
00:59:30 Leaving her and her daughter alone at the dinner table and everywhere else he was in the delivery room for the Girls's birth.
00:59:37 But he brought along a laptop computer so he could help a less experienced player kill something called a dorm.
00:59:46 Quote my fiance and I have no relationship, Erickson says.
00:59:50 I speak, he grunts.
00:59:52 I ask him to do something, I do it myself.
00:59:56 I want to go back to work, but I do not trust him alone with our daughter, simply because when I am here she will be crying and he won't do anything.
01:00:06 About it.
01:00:07 She may feel alone, but only in real life online. Sad to say, she has plenty of company. There's Mel, a 31 year old Seattle resident who's convinced her her live in boyfriend cares more about EverQuest than he does about her and D20, who cries herself to sleep while her boyfriend spends his nights jacked into the game.
01:00:30 And Goodell, who moved from Europe to the United States to spend time with someone she met playing the game herself.
01:00:36 She returned home after he refused to move their relationship offline.
01:00:44 Four days?
01:00:44 I asked him to choose between me and EverQuest, she wrote.
01:00:48 He has done EverQuest ever since.
01:00:51 They call themselves EverQuest widows.
01:00:55 So there was an entire website about these people and look at it.
01:01:01 I kept finding article after article about this stuff.
01:01:04 Backing up, there was a a one of these nerd journalists on that gaming website was IT code, Kotaku.
01:01:15 I don't even.
01:01:15 Know how you're supposed to say it?
01:01:17 Yeah, but if you're a gaming nerd, you'll know what I'm talking about. And he wrote this article in 2009.
01:01:23 So this was well after, you know, EverQuest was, was really a thing.
01:01:27 I mean, I guess it's still.
01:01:29 It's actually weirdly still technically a thing, but you know, it was past its peak, right?
01:01:35 But he starts.
01:01:36 He he wrote an article about how every quest ruined his life or or, you know, much in the same way it's like.
01:01:44 Again, you could sit here and say, well, these are just weak fagots.
01:01:48 These are weak *******.
01:01:51 And therefore we should have 0 sympathy for them.
01:01:56 And we should put all the blame on them.
01:02:00 And that the the developer of the game has has no responsibility whatsoever.
01:02:06 And and and you're basically viewing it the same way.
01:02:11 That these capitalists, with no with, with no stick or carrot are are looking at it well.
01:02:17 Who ******* cares?
01:02:18 **** them.
Speaker 7
01:02:21 **** him.Devon
01:02:23 Right.01:02:23 If I can make money on on people.
01:02:26 If if I can, if I can scam people.
01:02:31 Why? Why not?
01:02:33 If they're stupid enough to hand me their money.
01:02:37 For something that does harm to them, why?
01:02:40 Is it on me?
01:02:42 Why do I have to have any?
01:02:44 You know, it's literally how Jews think.
01:02:49 It's literally how Jews think, OK?
01:02:53 You're literally thinking.
01:02:54 Like a Jew, when you say that stuff.
01:02:58 But this article that this guy wrote, MM Fahey or something. I don't.
01:03:03 Know he might, for all we know, he is a Jew.
01:03:06 He he's talking about the same thing.
01:03:08 He says that alright.
01:03:13 Let's here we go.
01:03:16 In January of 2001, a man with a tow truck came to my place of employment and took my car away.
01:03:22 I had fallen behind on payments without realizing it, and my Nissan or a Nissan decided they wanted my centre back.
01:03:29 My first thought as I watched the tow truck drive away was how many hours walking to and from work would take away from my EverQuest.
01:03:37 Time I worked at a company, blah blah blah, blah blah, uh, you know, he talks about how because he was calling in sick all the time.
01:03:45 His boss fired him.
01:03:48 But then he was just like ohh sweet.
01:03:50 Now I got more time to.
01:03:51 ******* play EverQuest.
01:03:54 I had no car. I had no job. Joe had handed me my last paycheck for about $120.00 that he had in his wallet and sent me on my way.
01:04:02 I took a taxi home, broke the news to.
01:04:04 My roommate and went into my bedroom and started up EverQuest and forgot about everything.
01:04:12 He then talks about how his.
01:04:15 His girlfriend tries to get back with him.
01:04:19 That he had basically ignored as a result of playing EverQuest all the time.
01:04:25 My existence existence slowly started gaining some semblance of real life again.
01:04:30 Emily went out one afternoon and brought me some a stack of job applications, which motivated me to go out and get my haircut, go to my first job interview at a a fast signs down the street, looking slightly more human and feeling more alive than I had in months.
01:04:45 I got the job on the spot.
01:04:47 It was amazing how fast things had turned around, unfortunately.
01:04:51 It wouldn't last.
01:04:52 In an odd twist, my EverQuest friends were now worried about me.
01:04:57 Now look I I can actually relate sadly to this aspect I played first person shooters so often because we're going to go through all these different aspects of it.
01:05:09 But one aspect that we you know that they keep mentioning over and over again is the aspect of it.
01:05:13 But it never ends right?
01:05:15 It just keeps going and going and going.
01:05:17 It's every quest.
01:05:19 But what they don't mention a lot of these other things that that it shares with other video games.
01:05:24 And one of that, one of those things, especially EverQuest.
01:05:27 It seems that's really important is the social aspect of it right.
01:05:31 You have all these, these friendships that start being more real to you than your friendships in real life.
01:05:38 And because he was spending time.
01:05:40 Away from this virtual world, they were getting worried about him like ohh, what's what's wrong?
01:05:45 He hasn't been logging in so much, though there might be, you know, maybe he's he's depressed.
01:05:50 It's the same look.
01:05:51 I had the same kind of a thing happened when I was playing Battlefield.
01:05:58 I don't remember which version exactly, but like I used to play battlefield all the time, whether it was 1942, Battlefield 2.
01:06:04 You know what?
01:06:04 You know, desert combat all you know, all these different, you know, versions I played a.
01:06:08 Lot of them.
01:06:09 And I was a really good player and so my friend group when I wasn't playing.
01:06:17 Didn't always do as well when I wasn't around, so they'd get very.
01:06:20 They'd get instead of worried about me, they just get ******* ****** *** at me.
01:06:22 So if I went out with friends.
01:06:24 IRL I had people mad at me for not logging in and playing battlefield with them.
01:06:31 So that's and I think probably a lot of people can.
01:06:33 Relate to that.
01:06:35 Where you have, you know, discord, I guess is you know we use Teamspeak back in the day.
01:06:40 But I guess you probably have discord friends that were that are passed off that you're actually out in the real world.
01:06:47 I I hadn't been around and they missed my sense of humor and my enthusiasm, my ability to twist.
01:06:53 OK, well, now he's just jacking himself off.
01:06:56 So I started playing EverQuest again.
01:06:57 At first it was only on the nights that Emily couldn't make it over, but soon I was back to my regular play schedule.
01:07:04 Every waking hour I was regularly late to work and called in sick at least once every two weeks so I could stay home and play.
01:07:12 Then there was that fateful night.
01:07:13 The woman I had once told I was in love or was the love of my life was sitting undressed in my bed, not a foot away from my computer desk, begging me to join her.
01:07:23 And I kept putting it off.
01:07:25 I was so close to level 40.
01:07:26 I could taste it.
01:07:28 I was in the Dreadlands kidding, large or anything supposed to say.
01:07:32 Killing killing large enemy.
01:07:33 Means back and forth, killing them slowly with my Bard songs.
01:07:38 I was still remembering the urgent I still remember the urgency I felt, along with the annoyance that this woman was trying to keep me from reaching my goal.
01:07:47 Couldn't she understand how important this was to me?
01:07:54 Then she then has a quote from her.
01:07:56 She says.
01:07:57 Back then I just figured I was dating a gamer.
01:08:00 That's just how they were.
01:08:02 It was how it was going to be, she said, quote.
01:08:05 I hadn't dated many guys at that point, and my older brother was the same way he worked.
01:08:10 He worked, came home and played video games.
01:08:18 So this is what I mean by the chicken and the egg stuff.
01:08:21 A lot of people think that, well, I play video games cause I can't socialize well.
01:08:25 Maybe maybe you can't socialize because you're.
01:08:29 You're playing video games anyway. Let's get back to the the 48 hours.
Speaker 23
01:08:35 A little.01:08:36 Ashamed of this or self-conscious or chagrin or anything, I mean.
Speaker
01:08:39 Oh yeah.Speaker 2
01:08:41 Of course, yeah.Speaker 23
01:08:42 Act like this is sort out of your control.Speaker
01:08:45 Sometimes I feel like it's.Devon
01:08:45 That's like the first time he's made eye contact.Speaker 26
01:08:52 Right.Speaker 23
01:08:53 It's realistic enough to believe, but it's escapist and naughty to just relax and.Speaker
01:08:58 Have a great time.Speaker 23
01:08:59 And I think that's what makes it.01:09:00 So horribly addictive.
01:09:02 And so much fun.
01:09:03 Say it's.
01:09:04 Just fans, hundreds of whom gather 4 * a year for fanfare.
Speaker
01:09:09 Nobody in real life, but I'm somebody.Speaker 21
01:09:13 We brought the four items you need to make.01:09:15 Your potion here.
Devon
01:09:16 By the way, there's something to be said for that.01:09:18 I'm nobody in real life, but I'm somebody in EverQuest.
01:09:26 I remember thinking.
01:09:30 That I was.
01:09:30 I was.
01:09:31 I was pretty ******* awesome for being one of the top players in the world.
01:09:37 At a first person shooter.
01:09:40 I thought that like ohh this is this is.
01:09:42 A real accomplishment.
01:09:44 Right, because I'm not playing one of these games where, like the the opponents are are MPCS the opponents are these algorithms or whatever.
01:09:52 I'm playing other ************* who play this all day long and I'm out competing all of them.
01:09:59 Or almost all of them.
01:10:04 I I am I am somehow a.
01:10:08 A better man somehow.
01:10:11 I don't, I yeah, even though like.
01:10:14 Obviously it would never translate into anything.
01:10:17 I would convince myself.
Speaker 7
01:10:18 Well, actually it sort of does, because like you know, the viewport in the 3D modeling program is very much like a first person shooter. So it makes me a little.Devon
01:10:26 Bit fat and it, I guess maybe maybe a little bit.01:10:28 Master, I don't know.
01:10:30 But I was *******.
01:10:31 I was fooling myself, obviously.
01:10:35 Spending spending as much time as I did playing.
01:10:37 These ******* games.
01:10:43 And look, it really is no different.
01:10:47 The dopamine that you get playing these games.
01:10:51 It really is no different than these sports ball *******.
01:11:00 The gamers often feel so superior to.
Speaker 7
01:11:09 No, I'm interacting.01:11:11 I'm not just a spectator.
01:11:13 I'm not just sitting down and watching.
Devon
01:11:15 Watching black millionaires throw a ball around, I'm actually interacting.01:11:22 Well, you're fulfilling the same need.
01:11:27 And you're diffusing.
01:11:32 Masculinity, in the same way.
01:11:40 In the same way that they want men.
01:11:43 Guzzling beer, stuffing their face full.
01:11:46 Of hot wings.
01:11:48 Watching a game on a field.
01:11:52 Channeling their aggression.
01:11:59 Living vicariously through.
01:12:02 These players on the field.
01:12:09 It's literally it.
01:12:10 Really is no different.
01:12:11 It's just slightly.
01:12:14 Requires slightly more intellect.
01:12:19 To control.
01:12:21 The little players on the field, but you're still a spectator.
01:12:25 Don't act like you're not.
01:12:28 In fact, zoomers like with the the I mean they cut out the middleman a lot of you know, with Twitch and everything where they don't even play the games anymore, they just literally.
01:12:38 Do watch someone else play the ******* game.
01:12:51 I'm a nobody in real life, but I'm somebody in EverQuest.
Speaker 23
01:12:55 Here, players meet for a real life.01:12:57 Version of the game.
Speaker 3
01:12:58 We're getting our **** kicked.Speaker 10
01:12:59 Thank you very much, Martin.01:13:00 We'll try.
Speaker 25
01:13:01 To solve your puzzle.Speaker 13
01:13:02 Thank you, love.Speaker 3
01:13:03 Step forward it's.Speaker 25
01:13:04 Not running the chambers.Speaker 23
01:13:04 The game, but they've learned to set limits.Speaker 5
01:13:07 Boy, it consumes your life if you.Speaker 26
01:13:09 If you're not.Speaker 3
01:13:10 Careful ever quest while being a fantastic experience, there's no substitute for living, breathing people.Speaker 18
01:13:17 A living, breathing fantasy world live on the Internet.Speaker 23
01:13:21 That's how the games maker Sony Online promotes it yourself.Speaker 18
01:13:25 Arm yourself with a variety of fantastic weapons and magical spells.Speaker 23
01:13:38 It's easy to see how you.01:13:40 Might be drawn into.
Speaker 27
01:13:41 Whoa, high tech.Speaker 23
01:13:41 The enchanting world of ever quest and then have trouble ever getting out.01:13:48 After all here there are chances for adventure and heroism and romance rarely found in real life.
01:13:55 It's all great fun, unless, of course.
Devon
01:13:57 I bet they thought this was really clever.01:14:01 Alright. Well what we'll do.
01:14:03 We'll green screen it so.
01:14:04 Like and we'll put you in like.
01:14:06 A like a medieval like Cape Thing.
01:14:08 And and you'll be like a player.
01:14:10 You'll be like, you know.
01:14:13 They probably thought this was so ******* awesome.
01:14:16 Anyone that works just so you guys know.
01:14:18 Because I have a lot of experience in this.
01:14:23 Anyone that works in TV news?
01:14:26 But none of them thought they were.
01:14:27 Going to end up in.
01:14:28 TV news they all wanted to be Steven *******.
01:14:31 Spielberg and they ended up in TV news.
01:14:35 So that's any chance they get to be like, oh, yeah, let's let's use the green screen.
Speaker 23
01:14:46 In the real world, or at least as real as it gets in Beverly Hills, we tracked down Ben Stein.01:14:52 Quick, OK, OK.
Devon
01:14:54 Ohh ******* Ben Stein.01:14:55 I'll spare you the Ben Stein stuff.
01:14:57 So Ben Stein basically is like my boy.
01:15:01 Was addicted to EverQuest and so he Ben Stein sent his kid to boarding school.
01:15:08 Because he couldn't get him to stop playing EverQuest.
Speaker 13
01:15:10 It's a game, So what?Speaker 2
01:15:12 It's a game, but it's a game that's a dangerous game.01:15:16 This one is different.
01:15:17 This one is so intoxicating, so seductive.
Speaker 23
01:15:21 And he says it almost destroyed his 15 year.Devon
01:15:22 One of those amazing graphics.Speaker 23
01:15:24 Old son Tommy.Devon
01:15:26 So anyway.01:15:30 Now we'll get to.
01:15:31 Now we'll get to that story.
01:15:32 Again, so this.
01:15:33 Is this?
01:15:33 Is that guy that shot?
01:15:35 Himself in Canada, I think it was Canada.
Speaker 1
01:15:39 How you doing?Speaker 23
01:15:47 Sean Woolley grew up in rural Wisconsin, or Wisconsin.Speaker 1
01:15:50 This pitch?01:15:51 Ohh were you pitches?
Speaker 23
01:15:53 On the surface, a happy go lucky.Speaker 13
01:15:56 He'd like to be very theatrical or whatever he was doing.01:16:02 When he had the camera on him, he'd always like to have a face or an expression that was saying, hey.
Speaker
01:16:08 This is me.Speaker 23
01:16:10 His mother, Liz, was especially proud of his accomplishments.Speaker 13
01:16:14 This is his graduation. It's 1998. He graduated. It's big.Speaker 23
01:16:15 Typical graduation.Speaker 13
01:16:19 Day for him.Speaker 23
01:16:20 Because she says all his life, Sean had to struggle with learning disabilities and significant emotional problems.Speaker 13
01:16:28 This is at his apartment that he moved into.Speaker 23
01:16:30 So it was a big deal when last year he got a job and a new apartment.Speaker 13
01:16:35 Clean apartment.01:16:36 Then we fixed it up.
01:16:38 You know, we all worked together and and he had it nicely furnished this cute place.
Speaker 23
01:16:43 Liz did all she could to help him find his way.01:16:47 It wasn't enough.
Speaker 13
01:16:49 This is where Sean is buried, so it wasn't for my faith.01:16:54 I don't know where I'd be right now because this is so hard that you don't want to live after it.
Speaker 23
01:16:58 Happens last Thanksgiving, 21 year old Sean Woolley committed suicide.Speaker 13
01:17:05 About 10:00 in the morning.Devon
01:17:09 So they actually.Speaker 7
01:17:10 Still don't know.Devon
01:17:11 What it why exactly did it?01:17:13 They just know.
01:17:13 Obviously his life got worse and worse.
01:17:16 He lost like two different jobs.
01:17:17 He stopped paying his phone Bill bill.
01:17:20 He didn't have any money.
01:17:21 He was lying to people about, like, going to work and stuff like that and was just playing ******* EverQuest constantly.
01:17:27 And and then shot himself while playing EverQuest.
01:17:32 So like you know.
01:17:33 It is what it is, so this.
01:17:35 Is the the guy behind EverQuest?
01:17:40 Let's see here.
Speaker 23
01:17:41 Firmly believes that something happened in EverQuest that led him to kill himself.Speaker 25
01:17:47 Yeah, as a parent it's it's, it's one of the.01:17:48 It's a hard thing to kind of comprehend, get your.
01:17:51 Get your head around.
Speaker 23
01:17:52 John Smedley, the Chief operating officer of Sony Online, is one of the creators of EverQuest.Speaker 25
01:17:58 When I spoke with Miss Willie, I expressed my condolences.01:18:01 And and it's really one of those terrible things that happens.
01:18:06 I mean, there's just nothing to suggest that EverQuest had any role in in that.
Speaker 23
01:18:10 How do you know?Speaker 25
01:18:12 Because every quest is a game and I don't see the connection between a form of entertainment and somebody's tragic suicide.Speaker 7
01:18:24 See, isn't that?Devon
01:18:25 Exactly what they'll tell you about about movies.01:18:29 It's just a game, bro.
01:18:31 It's just.
01:18:32 A movie bro.
01:18:34 All these, you know, all these different entertainment products.
01:18:38 Don't have any kind of influence on behavior.
01:18:43 That's that's Churro wanting, wanting, wanting some attention, he's.
01:18:47 He's climbed into, he's got a little he's.
01:18:48 Got a little window.
01:18:49 That he can climb through now, that's a little little cat door, but he's relegated to the non classified cat part of.
01:18:56 The bunker so.
01:19:00 Anyway, that's why he's nearby.
01:19:01 That's why trail Cam has not had any chiro lately, because he doesn't go in his his shed anymore.
01:19:07 He stings out in there now anyway, but this is what they'll tell you.
01:19:14 You know, and so many conservatives, right.
01:19:17 So many conservatives, because they are slaves to whatever big business, you know, it's always economics, right?
01:19:23 Everything comes down to an economics thing.
01:19:28 Well, if you don't like it then.
01:19:29 Don't buy it.
01:19:32 If you don't like it.
Speaker 7
01:19:33 Then don't watch it.Devon
01:19:35 If you don't like the music like that, then.01:19:37 Don't listen to it.
01:19:40 This is capitalism.
01:19:41 It's a free market.
01:19:42 They should be able to make money off of suckers if they want to.
01:19:47 What what people do in the privacy of their own home is their business.
01:19:53 We're all individuals.
01:19:58 You see how this is all connected?
01:20:02 You see how this way?
01:20:04 Of of greedy Boomer thinking has ****** us.
01:20:13 And look, I'll be the first to admit that if I had seen this news report in.
01:20:19 I guess 2000 is when it aired. I would have rolled my eyes and said something similar.
01:20:27 Well, they're trying to play him a game for that ******* ******.
01:20:41 And like the video game company like I.
01:20:43 Said they they knew.
01:20:46 They knew it was addictive, they.
01:20:47 Advertised it as addictive.
01:20:58 Well, let me get to.
01:20:59 The there we go.
Speaker 26
01:21:01 You know there's a problem.Speaker 16
01:21:02 It looks like the maker of EverQuest Sony Online might know marketplace found the word addictive used as a selling point in several pieces of their marketing materials, and a study done in the US found that 45% of EverQuest players believe.01:21:19 They are addicted.
01:21:21 Is it possible Tracy's addicted well? If a neurologist could study her brain while she plays, he might be able to tell at the Montreal Neurological Institute. Doctor Allen Daguerre has studied the brains of video game players.
01:21:36 An online game be like Booth.
01:21:39 Or like cocaine.
Speaker 21
01:21:41 Well, I think it has.01:21:43 It may have something in common with addictive drugs.
01:21:46 In that it may release dopamine in the same brain areas as addictive drugs.
Speaker 16
01:21:51 Daguerre found that a chemical called dopamine is released in the brain when video game players perform goal oriented tasks and he suspect.Devon
01:22:00 And we'll get.01:22:00 More into that too, the sense of accomplishment.
01:22:05 You know, in order to get that dopamine release prior to your video game career.
Speaker 7
01:22:12 What did you have?Devon
01:22:13 To accomplish, to actually feel that.01:22:19 Something more than beating a virtual.
01:22:21 Orc in the head I I would assume.
01:22:29 So if your brain is being satisfied because you are sitting on your *** playing one of these ******* games, what are you not doing that you would have done?
01:22:38 To get that reward from your brain.
01:22:42 To get that carrot.
01:22:51 You know what's weird?
01:22:57 When I was when I was at my peak of playing ******* video games all the time, and I mean all the time, probably honestly, probably as as much as some of these ever quest people, right, as much as I could say, well, it didn't go on forever.
01:23:10 It would stop.
01:23:11 Every 20 minutes doesn't mean I stopped.
01:23:13 That means that I would.
01:23:14 You know, I just played several tournaments in a row.
01:23:17 OK.
01:23:21 What's weird is.
01:23:25 At that time that I was at that peak.
01:23:29 Of playing that much.
01:23:31 If instead.
01:23:34 Of playing that video game I had just sat.
01:23:37 On a couch, let's say.
01:23:39 A couch more comfortable than my gaming chair.
01:23:43 For the same amount of time and not done anything.
01:23:47 I would have felt like a ******* loser.
01:23:50 I would have said why aren't you doing anything with your life?
01:23:54 Why aren't you?
01:23:54 I would.
01:23:55 Go crazy.
01:23:55 I'd have to leave the house and go do something.
01:24:04 But because I was doing exactly the same thing that I just described, just with a a screen with blinking lights on it.
01:24:12 I felt like I was doing stuff.
01:24:15 I was getting **** done.
01:24:19 I was owning noobs.
Speaker 16
01:24:31 Habit or addiction? Either way, a lot of play is good for business as long as players like Tracy keep playing. Sony makes more money, about $8 million a month. We talked to Harvey Nightingale.01:24:44 Executive director of the Canadian Interactive Digital Software Association, a group Sony belongs to.
01:24:51 Does the industry think that online games could be addictive?
Speaker 27
01:24:55 I don't think there was ever any the intention for any game to be addictive in any way, shape or form.01:25:00 They're meant to be all entertainment products.
Speaker 16
01:25:03 Because we got this off of Sony websites and some of the marketing material, look at this, it says this is Sony material.01:25:09 Let Sony feed your online addiction.
01:25:12 Another one here online games for hours.
01:25:15 Of addicting gameplay.
01:25:16 Here's another one maintaining highly addictive, immersive, and persistent gaming environments.
Speaker 27
01:25:21 I'm sure somebody said that that's what they say in their literature.01:25:24 I have no doubts.
01:25:25 Part of their.
Speaker 16
01:25:26 Marketing tool this this would suggest that Sony knows that EverQuest is addictive.Devon
01:25:31 Well, of course they knew.01:25:32 They literally hired psychologists to make it more addictive.
01:25:37 And that's that's standard practice.
01:25:40 Now, that's not like, ohh, so nefarious.
01:25:43 Like that's that.
01:25:44 That same **** is happening today.
01:25:50 It's just slightly more ********.
01:25:52 Now, if you can believe it.
01:25:58 It's just even more it.
01:25:59 It's just stupider now.
01:26:02 What you you don't believe me?
01:26:04 How could it be stupider than this, Damon?
01:26:08 That's pretty *******.
01:26:10 How could it be gayer than EverQuest?
Speaker 8
01:26:12 It's called Candy Crush Saga, the online gaming sensation that took millions of fans but has some of them a little too much become an addiction. ABC's Reena Ninan takes a look.Speaker 14
01:26:22 It's become an addiction.01:26:24 Many are finding hard to break.
Speaker 3
01:26:26 I was hooked right away.Speaker 14
01:26:27 Mary Hilton can't stop playing.01:26:29 Candy Crush.
01:26:30 She's so into it.
01:26:31 She's already on level.
Speaker 3
01:26:32 245 and it's taken me a year to get.Speaker 14
01:26:35 There, it's simple, you swipe.01:26:38 The candy in any direction to match and crush three or more of the same pieces.
01:26:43 45 million people play Candy Crush each month. It's free to download and play. You're given 5 lives per game, but you can pay to purchase additional ones with over 400 levels, some players are indulging on all that candy and draining their wallets.
Speaker 3
01:27:00 My husband told me our iTunes.01:27:02 It's like you gotta.
Speaker 14
01:27:04 And it's a sweet deal for the British creators.01:27:06 Of the game.
01:27:07 They're said to be reeling in as much as $636,000 each day, 231,000,000 per year, and they say women aged 25 to 55 are their most loyal customers.
Speaker 28
01:27:21 Every time you reach a certain level or you get a sense of satisfaction, we're listening to music, which is very soothing as we're playing it, we hear a male voice that's giving us all this positive reinforcement.Speaker 14
01:27:33 Did he's DeAndre?01:27:34 Find it in.
Devon
01:27:35 Anyway, that's how it gets gayer than EverQuest.01:27:44 That's how it gets gayer than EverQuest.
01:27:52 Now The thing is in in fact specifically with Candy Crush.
01:27:56 Unless I'm I I could be mistaken, I don't.
01:27:58 I don't think I am.
01:27:59 I think the same company that owns Candy Crush, aren't they affiliated with with slot machines?
01:28:07 There's a lot of similarities between video game design and casino design.
01:28:14 If you if you can believe that.
01:28:17 So let's take a look here.
01:28:18 What Candy Crush is made by?
01:28:21 By who?
01:28:27 They're made by king.com, right?
01:28:30 OK, so king.com.
01:28:35 Candy Crush Saga or let's see here.
01:28:41 By king, so king.com limited.
01:28:47 They were founded in 2003 in Stockholm, Sweden.
01:28:56 Let's see here.
01:29:00 Yeah, they, they, they pioneered a lot of.
01:29:03 The freemium games.
01:29:06 I guess they're, I guess they're owned by by Blizzard now.
01:29:10 Ohh World of Warcraft, right?
01:29:13 So they got they're they're owned by the same company made world of.
01:29:17 I thought there was some kind of connection between them and.
01:29:22 It doesn't really.
01:29:23 Matter the so when they design these games.
01:29:28 They design them a lot like they design slot machines.
01:29:31 Or or casinos.
01:29:37 Now let's take a look.
01:29:37 Let's let's let's have a.
01:29:38 Little look.
01:29:40 I've talked a little.
01:29:41 Bit about the design of casinos and how.
01:29:45 You know, they they like people wonder about, like, why?
01:29:48 Who would ever have carpet like this?
01:29:50 Well, there's a reason behind all that stuff, but one of the things you'll notice if you go to a casino floor.
01:29:55 In fact, let me just.
01:29:56 Let's just bring up a.
01:29:57 Picture of a casino floor.
01:30:03 And load up a picture of a.
01:30:04 Casino floor.
01:30:07 There we go.
01:30:09 They all look very similar, so no matter which one I pick.
01:30:13 They they all look basically the same.
01:30:15 Alright, let.
01:30:16 Come on, load the file.
01:30:18 Why can't you just ohh come on.
01:30:20 Just load the *******.
Speaker
01:30:23 There we go.Devon
01:30:27 It doesn't want to load.01:30:28 These pictures.
01:30:31 Keeps tricking me into going to an actual casino page.
01:30:38 I have the screen capture it.
01:30:42 Wow, casinos, apparently are really good at.
01:30:46 They're so good at marketing that if you start doing image search for casino floor, they have all these photos that they know someone would want.
01:30:55 But if you Click to see the source of the photo, it sends you to the actual to see the page.
01:31:01 Anyway, I'm going to I'm going to just screen cap it whatever to look like.
01:31:04 ****, but who cares?
01:31:05 It'll work good enough.
Speaker
01:31:08 All right.Devon
01:31:12 Let me save this here.01:31:24 Alright, so here is a casino floor and like I said, it could be any casino because every casino.
01:31:32 Is pretty much exactly like this.
01:31:35 It doesn't really matter what what casino.
01:31:37 You go to.
01:31:38 They're all designed the same way for the same reasons.
01:31:44 And those reasons are.
01:31:47 They they designed the lighting.
01:31:53 The high contrast.
01:31:56 Of bright and dark.
01:31:59 They have action oriented colors.
01:32:05 And colors that remind you of of, of hunger and sex.
01:32:12 Now, if you think that that's that's.
Speaker 7
01:32:14 Not real.Devon
01:32:16 Why do you think so many?01:32:19 Fast food restaurants.
01:32:22 Use the same color schemes.
01:32:25 Why do they use?
01:32:26 Red and and yellow and orange so much.
01:32:30 You know, like think about the color scheme of McDonald's.
01:32:33 And the color scheme of Wendy's.
01:32:36 Like, why is it pretty much identical?
01:32:38 Is that a coincidence?
01:32:40 Is Wendy's trying to look like McDonald's?
01:32:42 No, it's just they did the exact same market research and realized that colors like yellow and red and orange make people hungrier.
01:32:52 Colors like purple and and and you know the the more pinkish red makes people.
01:32:59 Think about sex.
01:33:02 You know there there's a reason why the lighting at at you know at these casinos is identical.
01:33:09 The carpets are identical or, you know, in terms of.
01:33:12 Style. There's always moving lights.
01:33:17 And blinking lights.
01:33:21 Now part of the.
01:33:22 Reason that you have all this visual stuff going on and this is look this.
01:33:27 Isn't even at the.
01:33:28 This isn't even the slot machine yet.
01:33:30 This is just the environment that you're in.
01:33:34 Is it confuses?
01:33:36 A part of your brain.
01:33:39 It's called the supra.
01:33:42 Chiasmatic nucleus, or the S?
01:33:48 Or what?
01:33:49 What's the?
01:33:49 That's not the acronym, is it?
01:33:52 S I'm sorry, SCN.
01:33:55 Now this is the part of the brain.
01:34:00 That regulates melatonin.
01:34:06 It's the part of the brain that tries to figure out.
01:34:10 What time of day it is?
01:34:12 And and get you.
01:34:13 Into your sleep rhythm.
01:34:16 You know that you you've heard a lot of people talk about how uh, you know, the blue light coming from screens on on cell phones is disrupting people sleep same, same mechanism, right?
01:34:28 The same thing that's going on, or you might have experienced if you pull it all nighter and you feel like, oh God, I'm just, I'm about to *******.
01:34:36 High and then like.
01:34:37 The sun starts to creep up.
01:34:40 On the horizon.
01:34:41 And there's just.
01:34:42 Even though you're, you're still exhausted, you're still really ******* tired.
01:34:47 That frequency of light.
01:34:50 From the the moment of dawn.
01:34:53 Does something to your head and gives you that second wind.
01:34:58 Magically, you're you're all of a sudden you're able to.
01:35:01 To deal with.
01:35:03 With being awake in a way that you weren't just a few minutes prior and and literally the difference is that frequency of light your brain sees.
01:35:13 That and it's like.
01:35:13 Oh, it's morning.
01:35:18 It's morning.
01:35:24 Well, if you're playing a video game or you're playing in really any video game, it doesn't have to be.
01:35:29 Yeah, it could be Candy Crush.
01:35:31 It could be every crash.
01:35:32 It could be anything.
01:35:33 It could be a Fortnite, Minecraft.
01:35:35 It could be anything.
01:35:38 That color scheme.
01:35:40 Is gonna **** ** and and you know the blinking lights and whatever, just by by virtue of it.
01:35:45 Being a video.
01:35:46 Game is going to **** with your SCN and your ability to regulate sleep and regulate melatonin.
01:35:54 Now this is going to to basically give you a feeling of timelessness.
01:36:02 And this is going to be a reoccurring theme because look, what have we been talking about with this EverQuest stuff all night long?
01:36:08 These people are playing it for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours, as if like.
01:36:14 You know that.
01:36:14 There, there's nothing else going on.
01:36:16 In the world, right?
01:36:18 And that's the same thing with casinos.
01:36:20 Casinos want you to be there and and lose track of time.
01:36:25 If you've noticed, like this casino floor photo.
01:36:29 What do they what do?
01:36:30 They not have.
01:36:34 There's no windows.
01:36:37 There's no array peek.
01:36:38 Out the window and see what time of day it is.
01:36:41 No, there's no window.
01:36:45 It feels like the same time of day, whether it's four in the morning or four in the afternoon.
01:36:53 It makes you super disoriented when you you've been in the casino for a while.
01:36:57 You come or even like, think about.
Speaker 7
01:36:58 When you've gone into a movie.Devon
01:37:01 And it's still during, you know, it's daytime.01:37:03 When you go into the theater.
01:37:05 And then when you walk out of the theater, it's night and you're your brain is super disoriented because it it's.
01:37:12 It's like.
01:37:13 Well, hold on.
01:37:13 Last time it was it was it was day like last time.
01:37:16 I was outside.
01:37:17 Now it's.
01:37:17 Now it's dark.
01:37:25 In a casino, you know that that that's that's that's intentional.
01:37:29 They also one of the reasons why.
01:37:32 They have the the plush carpet.
01:37:37 It's not just the design of the carpet that that is trying to excite you keep you awake.
01:37:42 Because that's why they.
01:37:43 Have those loud designs the loud designs.
01:37:45 Is to keep you, you know.
01:37:47 Because they they know you're.
01:37:49 They want you to be drunk.
01:37:50 We'll get it out in a second, but they want to keep you alert enough at all times, stimulated enough to keep playing the ******* games, right?
01:37:59 And even though it's, it's easy to look at these ever quest graphics, right?
01:38:04 And be like, oh, that's super gay and not realistic.
01:38:07 Back then, this was pretty.
01:38:09 You gotta remember.
01:38:10 When this came out, this is pretty high tech.
01:38:16 This is pretty you know.
Speaker 7
01:38:18 Pretty realistic.01:38:20 Wow, look at that.
Devon
01:38:23 Amazing. That's. That was pretty stimulating in 2000.01:38:30 So they want to have, you know, so just like when you're, if you're in a casino floor, if you're just, you're a computer playing video game, you're not gonna have any any time queues, nothing.
01:38:39 Tell you what time it is.
01:38:41 But the the carpet is plush also.
01:38:45 Because it's an acoustic thing.
01:38:48 It's an acoustic thing.
01:38:50 They want the sound.
01:38:53 Inside a casino, to remain fairly even at all times for the same reason they want to maintain this sense of timelessness.
01:39:03 And if you're at the casino floor and it seems like eerily quiet and look, there's sometimes you they just can't get around that, right?
01:39:10 Like if you go into Laughlin, NV at at.
01:39:13 You know, like at the the ****** casino at.
01:39:16 4:30 AM it's going to seem a.
01:39:18 Little quiet.
01:39:22 But they're still the sounds, right?
01:39:23 They're still the sounds of the machines.
01:39:27 There's still.
01:39:27 There's still like a a word about the place.
01:39:32 But even when it's full.
01:39:35 They don't want it to get super loud because they don't want it to have peaks and valleys.
01:39:42 In the way that you're perceiving the audio, they want to be just kind of even.
01:39:49 So the it's and it's not just the carpet, they have acoustic.
01:39:53 There's not like in the ceiling.
01:39:54 If you look at the ceiling on this.
01:39:56 In this photo.
01:39:57 All these little designy things are are acoustically designed as well.
01:40:05 They'll also not, obviously, they'll have no clocks.
01:40:10 In the same way that if you're playing EverQuest or any of these video games, the only clock might be a countdown for like, oh, you know, like I have to hurry up and get this done before, you know, like the there's, you know, maybe there's a time limit, right.
01:40:26 Like I think Candy Crush has some kind of time limit or whatever, but there's no clock telling you like what time it is.
01:40:33 So in addition to not having a clock telling you what time it is, there's some other distracting time limit clock.
01:40:41 That then takes the place in your brain for like worrying about what time it is, because that now you you don't care what time it is as long as ohh well, there's only two minutes left.
01:40:51 Two minutes of this round.
01:40:52 I gotta hurry up before like.
01:40:53 The the thing happens.
01:40:58 The other thing that they do when they design casinos.
01:41:02 And video games.
01:41:05 Is they design them to be a have a social atmosphere, but it's very artificial.
01:41:12 Now if you look at this photo, there's chairs.
01:41:14 All over the place.
01:41:18 They want you to bring your friends.
01:41:21 But notice how none of the chairs are facing another chair.
Speaker 7
01:41:29 Yeah, they're, they're.Devon
01:41:29 They're all facing the machine or facing the dealer.01:41:37 So while it's social, in a way, the focus is never on.
01:41:42 The other person.
01:41:45 It's social in the same way that a movie theater is social, right?
01:41:49 Like no one wants to go to a movie by themselves.
01:41:56 Essentially, you're by yourself when you when you're, you know, during the movie, right?
01:42:00 Like unless you're black, you're not talking, you know, you're just quietly by yourself and your own little world experiencing it.
01:42:12 On your own.
01:42:14 It's just that you have the sense that you're you're with someone else because they're there's someone in the chair next to you.
01:42:23 And that's the way they design these casinos too.
01:42:26 When you're at the slot machine, you're sitting next to someone.
01:42:32 Yogi's misery loves company.
01:42:36 You don't feel like an addict if other people are doing it.
01:42:39 Think about how angry.
01:42:41 Those of you who have had, like the alcoholic friend, right, the one that, that, that or it doesn't matter.
01:42:47 The the the addict friend that like always wanted to take it too far, right.
01:42:52 And how and and this and you go along maybe for a little bit of the ride, but that moment you turn it down like the moment.
01:42:57 Like I'm I'm.
01:42:58 Going to turn.
01:42:58 In I'm you know, I've, I've you know I'm a.
01:43:01 Little tired how angry they get.
01:43:06 It's not. It's not that.
01:43:07 They're going to miss you.
01:43:09 It's not that they're disappointed cause your company means so much.
01:43:13 It's just that.
01:43:13 If you go away.
01:43:17 They're they're faced with they.
01:43:20 Have to hang out with themselves.
01:43:25 That means that means what they're doing is no longer normal.
01:43:32 You know, because.
01:43:33 You can't.
01:43:33 They can't look.
01:43:34 At someone else?
01:43:34 Well, he's doing it too.
01:43:43 Same thing with the the casino.
01:43:45 Same thing with.
01:43:46 The video game.
01:43:47 Well, of course I'm not addicted to video games.
01:43:49 All my friends are playing.
01:43:50 Look all.
01:43:50 My friends did.
01:43:53 And these are people.
01:43:54 I knew from real life these are people I went to high school with and party with.
01:43:57 And then we moved to.
01:43:58 You know, to different States and that's how we looked at it.
01:44:01 Oh, well, it's just like hanging out with you.
01:44:03 It's just that I live, you know, 150 miles away. And you, this guy lives 500 miles away.
01:44:08 Saying whatever and this is how we can all hang out on the same server and and hang out on the same team, speak server and we can stay in touch and and shoot bad guys and and whatever, right?
01:44:24 But we weren't really.
01:44:25 I mean, we weren't sitting there talking about life.
01:44:29 We weren't having deep conversations about about politics or or the world or religion or or our families or no.
01:44:43 You know, saying.
01:44:45 I'm over.
01:44:45 I'm over at the the building at the bottom of the street.
01:44:47 I gotta hurry up and revive me.
01:44:49 Drop drop a Med kit for me.
01:44:51 I found an A box of ammo over here.
01:45:07 But you have that that that.
01:45:11 That surface level socialization.
01:45:15 And look the same thing is.
01:45:16 True of Candy Crush.
01:45:18 Candy Crush.
01:45:20 You add your Facebook friends who also play Candy Crush.
01:45:25 And then at the end of each level.
01:45:27 You have this little map that shows you, oh, this is where you know someone.
01:45:30 So is.
01:45:31 And this is where someone so is and.
01:45:36 Now you don't feel like you're playing Candy Crush by yourself.
01:45:38 You're playing with all these other people that play Candy Crush.
01:45:42 You don't talk to them.
01:45:43 There's no.
01:45:43 There's literally no communication going on between you, but you see.
01:45:47 A little photo of them.
01:45:50 A little photo of them on the map.
01:45:52 Ohh I better I better catch up with Jennifer.
01:45:56 She's beating me.
01:46:00 You know the reason I know about this stuff, by the way.
01:46:06 I I did this girl that played Candy Crush all the ******* time.
01:46:10 And at the time I had a this was oh, man, this Candy Crush been a long time.
01:46:14 I've been around.
01:46:15 A long time this probably was.
01:46:17 Probably like circa 2010 ish around there. I had a I had a hacked iPhone with the.
01:46:24 You know the hacked App Store and stuff and you could get cheats for all these games.
01:46:30 And she played Candy Crush obsessively and was always.
01:46:33 Telling me like.
01:46:33 Ohh yeah cause.
01:46:34 I play it a little bit just to like see like.
01:46:36 Oh, what what what?
01:46:37 It was all about.
01:46:38 And I was like, I was kinda gay.
01:46:39 And she was like ohh you you you just can't.
01:46:41 You can't beat me.
01:46:43 You can't beat my score.
01:46:44 So I got this hacked version of Candy Crush where?
01:46:47 Just everything was free.
01:46:52 And then and by.
01:46:53 The way this is also how I know like anyone who's high up in that game must have spent like thousands of ******* dollars because everything was free.
01:47:02 And in order to beat.
01:47:03 Most levels that after a certain point you have you have to buy their crap like you have to buy their crap, right?
01:47:10 So I purposely like I one day I just like autistically, you know, with the the free, you know, the cheats to get all the free, whatever that power up thing is I I went like something like 50 levels above her or like just insanely higher than she was.
01:47:28 And I was like.
01:47:30 Oh yeah, that games easy.
01:47:36 Just to be * **** ***** it, but.
01:47:40 By the way.
01:47:41 I did.
01:47:41 I did a similar thing with uh uh.
01:47:43 What was that game called where you're.
01:47:47 It was like jungle run or something.
01:47:48 No temple run.
01:47:50 All the guys in my office were, like, obsessed with Temple Run and I found it in the same App Store that I found a hack for that where.
01:47:59 Like nothing killed.
01:48:00 You so you could as long as.
01:48:02 You turned when you were supposed to turn.
01:48:04 You were just invincible.
01:48:06 And I would just you know, I'd, I'd be working from home and just, you know, see what the what, the high score and the and the slack.
01:48:13 You know, room was I'm like, let me beat this real quick.
01:48:20 I was an *******, but anyway.
01:48:25 The other thing about the casino design.
01:48:29 Is the the music.
01:48:32 Right.
01:48:34 The music in.
01:48:36 In a casino it it plays into the timelessness of it.
01:48:40 But also they there's different parts of the casino floor will have different kinds of music.
01:48:47 And you know the same thing like the you'll have different music playing on different slot machines.
01:48:54 Or just think about any video game think of.
01:48:57 The music when?
01:48:58 You're in the menu versus the music.
01:49:00 When the game is playing.
01:49:05 Yeah, it changes tone dramatically.
01:49:10 So that's the same that same kind.
01:49:12 Of thing they're trying to cultivate.
01:49:14 When you sit down at A at.
01:49:15 A slot machine.
01:49:18 The really good music or the really not good music, but you know the stimulating music, the music that makes your brain happy.
01:49:26 It doesn't start playing until you put the money in, like it'll tease you.
01:49:30 Right.
01:49:31 It'll give you a brief little.
01:49:32 Ohh, here's a little animation.
01:49:34 A little taste of of the fun.
01:49:35 Happy sounds that come out of this glowing box.
01:49:40 But you really gotta put the money in for like the music to get going.
01:49:44 You know the same thing with the video game like ohh yeah.
01:49:46 Like you're in the menu.
01:49:48 There's like some, you know, music sort of playing, but it really doesn't really get going until you start playing.
01:49:56 I mean, in fact, look, you could say it's not even just Candy Crush.
01:49:59 You could say that, you know Mario brothers.
01:50:03 Do you think Mario brothers and this is?
01:50:05 A real question, do you think Mario Brothers would have been as addictive or as successful if Mario was collecting something like broccoli instead of gold coins?
01:50:19 Gold coins that go Ding when you get them.
01:50:23 Do you think it's a coincidence that Sonic the Hedgehog was collecting gold rings that go Dean when you get them?
01:50:35 Do you think that maybe, just maybe, that?
01:50:39 There's a psychological.
01:50:42 Aspect to to gold things that go Ding when you get them.
01:50:49 I mean your slot machines also go Ding.
Speaker 7
01:50:51 When you win, right?Devon
01:50:58 So the the audio is also designed in a way to stimulate.01:51:04 That reward center of your brain.
01:51:08 Whether you're talking about a casino floor, you know, a slot machine, a Candy Crush.
01:51:14 Or any of these.
01:51:17 These video games.
01:51:25 Now there's another aspect to this.
01:51:30 That this is not so much, I don't think like part of the design of a casino floor.
01:51:34 It's just something they're.
01:51:35 Trying to cultivate.
01:51:37 And that is.
01:51:39 If you think about it, there's a real they want you to be in the zone, right?
01:51:44 And if you look at that casino floor?
01:51:48 It looks like a.
01:51:49 A nice comfy place you could zone out.
01:51:53 Right, everything is soft and cushy and comfortable.
01:51:59 And and vision, you know that I'm talking not just physically, but visually.
01:52:04 The music is is, you know, very uplifting and happy.
01:52:08 It's a place, you know, if you, especially if you've had a few drinks right.
01:52:15 You can you can zone the **** out.
01:52:19 And in fact, it's an environment.
01:52:22 That very much promotes.
01:52:24 Having a few drinks, you know, and casinos, I don't know.
01:52:28 I've been a casino a.
01:52:28 Long time, but last time I was at a casino, drinks were free.
01:52:32 I mean, you're supposed to tip the cocktail waitress and depending on how I was feeling, maybe they I tipped them.
01:52:38 Maybe they didn't, but.
Speaker 7
01:52:40 The drinks were free.Devon
01:52:44 Because there's a fine line between being in the zone and zoning out.01:52:54 Now what I.
01:52:55 Mean by that.
01:52:56 Imagine that you are working on a project, right?
01:53:00 Whether it's.
01:53:01 Let's just say it's something creative.
01:53:04 Let's say you know it, it could be.
01:53:05 Writing a book.
01:53:07 It could be drawing a a picture.
01:53:12 It could be making a 3D model, you know anything or or carving something.
01:53:18 Out of wood.
01:53:20 Or or anything.
01:53:22 Everyone listening to the sound of my voice right now has worked on some kind of project.
01:53:27 In fact, you might be doing this right now as you listen to this.
01:53:33 We've worked on some kind of project.
01:53:36 Where you start working on it, you get in the zone.
01:53:39 You know you're in the in the groove, and then you look at the clock and you're like, how the hell?
01:53:44 Did three hours go by?
01:53:47 How is it 3 hours later?
01:53:50 Because you were in the zone.
01:53:52 You were so focused at the task and it was going so smoothly.
01:53:57 That you you lost track of time.
01:54:00 Well, that's exactly what both, you know, casinos and video game manufacturers wanting to do, they want you to be in the zone.
01:54:09 Or people you know prior to the video games.
01:54:13 What television studios wanted television audiences to do?
01:54:19 Because it really is a fine line between in the zone and zoning out.
01:54:25 The only difference might be like what level of participation.
01:54:29 Is going on.
01:54:32 Yeah, zoning.
01:54:32 Now, it might be a little slightly more passive, but it's the same thing going on.
01:54:36 It's the same mechanism in your brain.
01:54:38 It's the same reason why you're losing track of time.
01:54:44 Because you're so stimulated and enjoying the the dopamine that's being released.
01:54:53 You lose track of time because your brain is so distracted by other things.
01:55:00 And in fact, with casinos, they kind of take it a step further and they do this with with video games to some extent, certainly with subscription services.
01:55:11 How many times for those who have been to a casino in Las Vegas, how many times have you been to a massive casino like one of the really big ones you're like, oh, let's get out of here.
01:55:20 And and 5 minutes.
01:55:21 Later, you're still in there and you.
01:55:23 And like maybe in fact you might.
01:55:24 Have walked One Direction thinking no, this is the way out and then ended up somehow back at the same casino floor.
01:55:31 Your random second like how are we back here?
01:55:34 Because they purposely designed casinos to be this labyrinth that you can't escape.
01:55:43 They they make it so that you you always end up back at the casino floor no matter where.
01:55:47 You're trying to go.
01:55:52 Well, how many of you have have gone to, you know, tried to unsubscribe from something?
01:55:58 You know, and and they did this prior to the Internet just I mean just imagine trying to cancel a service over the phone.
01:56:07 And next thing you know, you're you're, you know you've talked to some representative who has given you like a free month or or whatever.
01:56:14 And you end up not cancelling.
01:56:17 Because they've create, they created all these like.
01:56:19 All you wanted to do is cancel and then the next thing they like, wait a second.
01:56:22 I didn't.
01:56:22 I ended up not cancelling.
01:56:24 But I guess every three month I gotta call him again next month.
01:56:29 Or the website makes it super easy to figure out how to like join and sign up for something, and then you try to cancel it.
01:56:36 Netflix used to be like that.
01:56:37 I don't know if it still is.
01:56:40 But when I cancelled Netflix, it was like.
01:56:43 Navigating some weird labyrinth that always ended up with getting like a free month of Netflix if I didn't cancel.
01:56:58 So same same exact kind of.
01:57:00 A thing going on there.
01:57:04 And then, of course there there's the reward system.
01:57:07 And what's ****** ** about the reward system in in both a casino and in a video game that makes it so addictive that makes gambling addictive.
01:57:19 And that makes playing some of these video games addictive.
01:57:24 Is your brain starts to, I mean from an early age, everyone is conditioned.
01:57:31 To think that well, if I do X.
01:57:35 And I do it right.
01:57:37 I'll get rewarded with with, you know, whatever.
01:57:41 Right.
01:57:41 Like, if in other words, like if you go to work for two weeks, you get a paycheck, right.
01:57:48 If I do my homework on time and I do the answers right, I get an A.
01:57:55 You know if if, if, if I if I do my chores, I get allowance right?
01:58:03 If and if I do something bad.
01:58:06 I get punished, right?
01:58:08 It's it's something you can you can reliably predict to some extent.
01:58:13 The reward?
01:58:15 Or, you know in in that case also the punishment, right, you can reliably predict to some extent both the carrot and the stick.
01:58:25 What a casino.
01:58:26 You can't do that.
01:58:30 You can't do that.
01:58:31 There's no pattern.
Speaker 7
01:58:34 To the reward system.Devon
01:58:37 It's it's sometimes very unexpected when you get the the reward.01:58:43 And sometimes it's very unexpected when you get the the opposite.
01:58:47 Of the reward.
01:58:50 And it *****.
01:58:51 With your brain.
01:58:54 Because your brain is trying.
01:58:56 To get into this this.
01:59:00 Of well, when I do this I get rewarded for it.
01:59:03 When I do this I get punished for it.
01:59:06 And instead it's getting all these unexpected reactions from from the actions you're making.
01:59:15 To to complicate it further and on purpose.
01:59:20 And casinos do this video games do this and Cam girls do this.
01:59:27 Instead of using real money.
01:59:31 What do they have you do?
01:59:33 You use chips.
01:59:36 Right.
01:59:38 Use something symbolic of money.
01:59:41 In in World of Warcraft you had World of Warcraft gold.
01:59:49 You know, in Candy Crush, I think there's like, I don't know, candy toe.
01:59:53 I don't know what.
01:59:54 The **** it is.
02:00:00 In all these games, EverQuest, you know that there there's some kind of fake monetary system.
02:00:07 When when did the video that the guy with the Cam girl?
02:00:10 You know, he had to.
02:00:11 He had to pay a bunch of money.
02:00:14 For his little fake Cam girl tokens.
02:00:20 And that's all for the same reason it takes.
02:00:22 It separates you from the reality of what?
02:00:25 What you're actually doing.
02:00:30 That you're actually spending?
02:00:33 Real money.
02:00:35 When you spend this fake money.
02:00:41 And mixed in with this unpredictable reward system, it *****.
02:00:45 With your brain.
02:00:54 On a side note.
02:00:57 I came across this story.
02:00:58 Gonna see if I can find it.
02:01:11 Let me see if I can find it.
02:01:17 Here we go.
02:01:18 So this woman.
Speaker 7
02:01:27 Oh my God.Devon
02:01:31 Alright, wait for a hard drive to spin up or something.02:01:36 There we go.
02:01:39 Now, why can't I?
02:01:40 I literally can't save any image for some reason tonight.
02:01:43 It's like not doing it.
02:01:44 Here we go, finally.
02:01:52 So this woman here.
02:02:00 She played World of Warcraft.
02:02:12 And she offered.
02:02:14 Sex on Craigslist.
02:02:18 For anyone that would give her.
02:02:21 5000 Warcraft golds.
02:02:28 Let me see if I'm.
02:02:29 Trying to find the actual Craigslist post.
02:02:36 Here it is.
02:02:48 Alright, so she posted this on Craigslist.
02:03:07 Hello I need 5000 world of gold for World of Warcraft gold. I guess for my epic flying mount in return you can mount me.
02:03:18 You have to have an account on the Laughing Skull server and I want 5000 gold before we do anything.
02:03:26 We can make the trade at your place, since I can't host.
02:03:32 Edit because I am having a lot of dumb guys message me who clearly don't have the gold.
02:03:38 Make sure to send a picture of yourself and a screenshot of your character. With 5000 Gold, I will be checking the Armory profiles.
02:03:50 I play a level 70 night elf druid.
02:03:54 I mean just that's see, this is what stopped me from playing this.
Speaker 23
02:03:58 There you go, drew it.Devon
02:04:02 And would prefer someone who is into role-playing.02:04:10 And then she talked.
02:04:11 There was some chicken Tribeca.
02:04:13 So she actually got it.
02:04:14 And then she got she got mad because everyone was making fun of her.
02:04:17 And she's.
02:04:18 Like I just.
02:04:19 Want to sell the ********* that thought it'd be funny to post my picture over the Internet? That and make 50,000 threads about me on WOW forums. I got my.
02:04:30 Epic mount in about 1/2 hour and was very enjoyable for both parties while.
02:04:36 All of you.
02:04:37 Idiots probably spent hundreds of hours farming yours.
02:04:40 Or don't even.
02:04:41 Have them, you know, and.
02:04:44 So it's like alright.
Speaker 9
02:04:46 Good for you, I guess.Devon
02:04:48 Epic Mount woman.02:04:52 So yeah, that, that's that was the fake Warcraft gold.
02:04:58 This second life you could buy it and people were selling property.
02:05:02 They were selling fake like second life.
02:05:08 I mean, it's what it's basically it was the precursor NFT.
02:05:13 What do you what do you think the NFT thing is?
02:05:18 It's the same ********.
02:05:23 Same exact ********, and you can't even say crypto to some extent is the same ********.
02:05:37 You know in closing.
02:05:38 One of the last things I wanna.
02:05:40 I wanna point out.
02:05:45 It's really odd.
02:05:48 Going back and and reading and looking at some of the people that were first worried about the role that video games.
02:05:58 Would play in the lives of of Americans.
02:06:03 And you gotta remember specifically who this would have affected in the year 2000 if you played a video game at all on a computer, especially, you were pretty much wiped.
02:06:13 The Internet was pretty much 100% white. The Internet in the year 2000 was basically a white ethno state.
02:06:20 So the only people really being affected by this I'm.
02:06:25 I'm sure there's exceptions, right?
02:06:29 People being affected by this, we're white.
02:06:35 That's just the way there was.
02:06:44 How many young white men?
02:06:48 Lost, who are already losing opportunities to things like.
02:06:54 Affirmative action.
02:06:57 And just, you know, being being.
02:07:01 Not chosen because they were young white men.
02:07:05 For education opportunities.
02:07:08 And and and and employment opportunities.
02:07:16 How many of them made the problem even worse?
02:07:22 By submersing themselves into these these fake, virtual ******* worlds.
02:07:31 Here, here's
Speaker 24
02:07:36 It's a game really, but.02:07:38 The way it's set up is it's it's a multi multiplayer based world.
02:07:42 It's a game.
02:07:44 Everybody who plays it has their own individual.
02:07:47 Request you do take on the first person aspect of your character and have request you actually while you're playing the game you role play your character.
02:07:56 You become that character much like you would in a virtual reality type scenario. Basically, a request provides you with a character. You are left as the player to describe your character's feelings, how he reacts in situation.
02:08:08 Certain situations.
02:08:10 How he goes about doing certain things, how he or she reacts to other players in the game on role-playing is basically the skill of developing your character, of creating your character's personality. EverQuest has 30 different world servers that are all the same but.
02:08:30 Everybody who plays our request can't fit on the same server.
02:08:33 There's about 30 different world servers.
02:08:35 And right now, there's probably about between 2000 to 3000 people on each.
02:08:39 Of those 30 servers.
02:08:41 Keep in mind that these people are from Japan.
02:08:44 They're from Hong Kong.
02:08:45 They're from all over the world.
02:08:47 EverQuest takes everybody from all over the world and allows them to play the game.
02:08:51 And about 5:00.
02:08:52 Years ago I played a game called the MUD.
02:08:55 Mud is basically the same thing as ever.
02:08:57 Class and stands for multi.
02:08:58 User dungeon and a mud is.
Devon
02:09:02 We're not going to.02:09:03 Mind this.
02:09:06 You think EverQuest is gay?
Speaker 24
02:09:12 Wake up at the morning, maybe 7:00 in the morning.02:09:15 Go to the chair, sit down, start playing.
02:09:18 About two in the morning rolls around.
02:09:20 Yeah, about 15 hours later.
02:09:22 Go straight to bed, wake up the next morning and do it all over again.
02:09:25 When you look at drugs and you look at EverQuest, people say to me, how can drugs compared to EverQuest?
02:09:31 Well, there's a lot of ways. EverQuest has a lot of physical wear on your body when you're sitting in that chair for 100 hours.
02:09:38 I mean, that's a lot of times where you could be exercising or you could be doing more productive things physical.
02:09:45 There's strong mental addiction.
02:09:47 People get very attached to their characters.
02:09:49 You see people who cry when their character dies in the game.
02:09:53 A lot of people when something unfair or life threatening happens to their character, they quit the game.
02:10:01 They feel fit.
02:10:01 One of my friends level to level.
02:10:04 60 and he was so upset with his character and the situation that he'd worked himself into, he took his computer, and he threw it into a pond, swearing never to play the game again.
02:10:14 Yesterday I was online, he logged on from the net cafe.
02:10:18 Had to talk to everybody, couldn't.
02:10:20 Stay away from the.
Speaker 3
02:10:20 Game he started mudding and then after a little while he started playing.02:10:25 Yeah, that's How I Met him.
02:10:26 I thought he was a jerk at 1st and I didn't like him.
Speaker 24
02:10:31 And they're outside, Madam.02:10:32 We lived in Missouri when I met her about.
02:10:36 I don't know.
Devon
02:10:38 He met his wife, Mudding.02:10:39 Oh my God.
02:10:41 Anyway, ohh look, old school eBay.
02:10:45 That's like really old school eBay.
02:10:48 They I they're talking about like, well, you could buy that.
02:10:51 Fake money. Let's see here.
Speaker 24
02:10:52 Spend the time to get.Speaker 17
02:10:54 It first, like, hey, the whole eBay thing, because I like, you know, don't waste your money on eBay that you know, then he started selling stuff and it's insane what people will pay for stuff.02:11:03 And then I I tell people at work and they're like, you're selling imaginary items.
02:11:07 What are you doing?
02:11:08 I'm like people, actually.
02:11:09 Pay for this stuff so.
02:11:11 Go for it.
Speaker 15
02:11:11 Right.Speaker 17
02:11:12 I don't care.02:11:12 You know, if he's gonna do that, then we get something out of it.
Devon
02:11:14 And F3 is.Speaker 24
02:11:16 Which money do I make from eBay well.02:11:21 Probably about.
02:11:23 A good week can do four hundred $500 in a good week. It all depends, you know if the creature is dropping the items that we need beyond the items that are in demand at the time.
Devon
02:11:37 Anyway, what I wanted to end on.02:11:40 Before we get to hyper chats here.
02:11:42 Is, you know, you you look at in fact he mentioned mods. I'm not gonna go into what that is it's basically imagine ever quest if it was 100% text with no graphics.
02:11:53 Because that you don't have to. I mean, that's really what it is. It was 100. It was ever crashed. Only a text based EverQuest, if you can imagine that.
02:12:02 So you'd play in this?
02:12:10 Anyway, we're not. It's just it's it's like the nerdiest, gayest **** in the world. You think this stuff's?
02:12:16 Bad. It's just anyway.
02:12:20 But yeah, so you you but.
02:12:21 You, when those were new.
02:12:24 When those muds were new, where people would go on and and play these text based versions of of of, of EverQuest, you had similar articles, it was just so fringe of the time because you know it wasn't like people didn't have computers.
02:12:38 It was usually university students that had access to some kind of almost no one had Internet.
02:12:46 So people playing these things at the university, there was a a story in fact, of one guy who got arrested for computer fraud or something crazy like that because he racked up a a $7000 phone bill at the university using.
02:13:04 You know, playing Muds long distance, I actually when I was in high school you they there was a computer in the high school library that I discovered had a.
02:13:17 1200 baud modem.
02:13:19 And I I ran I I brought in a a phone cord from home and ran a cord from the modem to a phone Jack that was in the library and I ran up their their phone bill not playing Muds, but you know, going to BBS's that were long distance and stuff like that back in the day.
02:13:40 But yeah, it it was.
02:13:42 It was a it was a white, ethno state.
02:13:44 The online, well, well, and I guess they were Asians too, but.
02:13:51 There was that it was what it was anyway, so.
02:13:55 My point is, you go back and you read these, there's old articles warning you about the addiction of to muds.
02:14:01 You know, people being addicted to muds.
02:14:04 And how it was sucking people in.
02:14:07 And in fact, you know the then there's the the whole debate about.
02:14:10 The violent video game stuff, right?
02:14:13 And that goes all the way back.
02:14:14 And it's really easy to look at this stuff and think.
02:14:16 It's funny like this was.
02:14:19 I think this was the this had to have been the 70s. This would have been late 1970s.
02:14:25 A A news report talking about.
02:14:29 They were worried like you.
02:14:30 Know people always laugh because parents are made, are mad about Grand Theft Auto.
02:14:36 Look at how simple this game was and how.
02:14:39 They were already worried about it.
Speaker 2
02:14:43 Even better than movies and television for getting into the ACT is your local pinball parlor.02:14:49 It provides an endless variety of methods for the little synthetic killing.
02:15:06 It's all harmless fun, says the Californian, who devised Death Race in Los Angeles, Paul Jacobs.
Speaker 26
02:15:13 Death Race really is fantasy and nothing more than that, and we don't try to depict anything that really happens in.02:15:20 Well, first of all, just a new twist into the game.
02:15:22 We took the cabinet, painted it black and try to project skeletons or gremlins running across the graveyard.
02:15:28 And what happened now is when you drove your automobile, you ran into a skeleton he emitted somewhat.
02:15:33 Of a shriek.
02:15:34 Turned into a grave marker.
02:15:38 And that's how we changed the game and.
02:15:40 The sales went up.
02:15:41 Quite a.
Speaker 20
02:15:41 Bit right?02:15:42 It's not a Volkswagen, it's not a.
02:15:44 Christmas tree, right?
02:15:46 It's a human being.
02:15:47 Is it harmful to the extent that it again, sanctions practice, training, learning.
02:15:53 How to hurt?
02:15:54 Kill other people.
02:15:55 It sets the stage for when people are instigated to aggression to use.
02:15:59 Those skills that they have, if you drive a.
02:16:02 Traffic and I'm a deliverer myself now you get.
Speaker 10
02:16:04 Tired of pedestrians?Speaker
02:16:05 These little things, you know, kind of remind me.Speaker 1
02:16:07 Of pedestrians. Spooks.Speaker
02:16:10 You're just supposed to run over the Spooks and make the tombstones.Speaker 20
02:16:13 They got little people on around the object of.02:16:15 The game is to.
02:16:15 Run them over.
02:16:16 I mean, that's a little sick, but it's.
Speaker 10
02:16:19 Right.Speaker 26
02:16:20 These are not pedestrians.02:16:21 These are.
Speaker 3
02:16:22 Part of like hidden people, that kind of not.02:16:26 Because they're not real.
Speaker 14
02:16:27 I wouldn't wanna run over anybody.Speaker 23
02:16:29 They're just gonna go.02:16:31 I don't know.
02:16:33 People living around.
Speaker 2
02:16:37 Whether or not those running dodging robots are meant to represent people, it is agreed that they are turned into tombstones and they do shriek when the hard driving operator scores a bulls eye.Devon
02:16:54 So anyway, that might be.02:16:55 That might be something for another day.
02:16:59 I think it's insane to think that that doesn't negatively affect you if if movies like my whole channel start out really talking about the the the propaganda within movies, if if that can have such an effect on society and absolutely does, I think it's insane to think that you can't, that you're going to have.
02:17:19 You know ghetto kids playing Grand Theft Auto, and that's somehow not having any kind of negative effect on anybody.
02:17:26 But anyway, that's that's maybe something we'll check out some other time.
02:17:30 So alright, let's take a look at the hyper chats from the hyper chats.
02:17:36 We got a lot of people watching tonight, huh?
02:17:38 A lot of people checking out the.
02:17:42 Checking out the sorry I had to do it, I had to do it.
02:17:54 Alright, here we go.
02:17:55 Let's take a look here at the.
02:17:59 The hyper chats there.
02:18:01 We have the internet's been well, I don't.
02:18:03 Wanna I don't.
02:18:04 Wanna jinx it?
02:18:05 I don't wanna ******* jinx it.
02:18:08 OK.
02:18:12 Here we go.
02:18:15 Cream cheese privilege.
02:18:17 Hey, Devin, I managed to find the movie I was talking about last week.
02:18:20 It's called the shadow of the moon.
02:18:22 It's very strange and anti white movie.
02:18:25 The shadow of the moon.
02:18:27 The shadow.
Speaker
02:18:28 Of the moon.Devon
02:18:30 Wait, is that the one that is?02:18:31 Is that the one that?
02:18:32 I did the video on I I don't remember.
02:18:34 If you were the one that was trying to find the name of that one that I.
02:18:37 Had already covered.
02:18:38 I mean, look it up.
02:18:39 Shadow of the moon.
02:18:44 2019 science fiction thriller blah blah.
02:18:52 Yeah, OK.
02:18:53 Yeah, this is the one I did cover, right?
02:18:57 Yeah, that's the yeah.
02:18:58 Very anti white.
02:19:00 Forget the name of that stream though.
02:19:03 White Mormon keep up the good.
02:19:07 Work brother stack.
02:19:08 Well, I appreciate that.
02:19:12 Simpay never play EverQuest, but I really enjoy Minecraft, IE Minecraft.
02:19:18 I've already given up TV streaming services and movies.
02:19:22 Do I at least get to keep Minecraft my only source of entertainment now, or Minecraft and the black Pilled stream?
02:19:29 Well, I look.
02:19:30 I've literally never played mine.
02:19:32 Craft, so I can't tell you, but I would say chances are everything that you do in the virtual world where you're, you know, you're you're expending your brand, you're you when you, you think you're building like, alright, I'm literally never playing Minecraft, but my understanding is you like build and make things and right why not?
02:19:52 Build and make things you don't need a video game for that.
02:19:57 I'm not saying look and I'm not saying.
02:20:00 Necessarily that that all video games are bad.
02:20:05 Or that you should never play video games.
02:20:08 But I think that you know everyone who is playing too many video games for too long, despite what you might tell the people around you, deep down, you know, you know, those of you who who know, you know, you know, if you're playing.
02:20:26 Too many video games.
02:20:28 And I would just suggest to you that there are other things you can do in real life that will give you a real sense of accomplishment.
02:20:35 And at the end of the day, you're not left with some virtual, you know, red badge of gayness.
02:20:41 Like Ohh I got I got.
02:20:42 The golden I unlocked the.
Speaker 7
02:20:45 The whatever you know, it's like ohh, got the the Dragon sword of sorcery.Devon
02:20:49 Or you know it, it's.02:20:51 There's there's things you can do.
02:20:54 That that'll give you just as much entertainment.
02:20:56 By the way.
02:20:58 But at the end of it, you have something tangible.
02:21:03 And look, I I'm not here to to make fun of you.
02:21:05 For playing video games.
02:21:06 I'm I'm the last person that has the.
02:21:10 The right to do that I've I played way too many ******* video games in my lifetime and I'm not even convinced that it's necessarily bad just, you know, inherently bad.
02:21:23 That video games are inherently bad.
02:21:26 But I do think that white men of of high intelligence.
02:21:32 Are particularly.
Speaker 19
02:21:34 Uh, vulnerable?Devon
02:21:37 To dedicating obscene amounts of of time and brain power.02:21:46 And money, oftentimes to a completely pointless.
02:21:52 Keep you unmotivated, keep you corraled like the cattle that you are while you're in the zone playing that game.
02:22:03 I I I just think that there's too many white men that could be making something of themselves that instead choose the easy route of playing video games to get that sense of accomplishment and and and while doing nothing really.
02:22:20 And again, I'm not judging you.
02:22:21 I played.
02:22:22 I played more games than.
02:22:24 Then I'll probably ever admit on this stream I'll never like I I don't even know if I could calculate the hours, but it's it's bad.
02:22:32 I can tell you that it's bad.
02:22:35 It's I. It's bad.
02:22:41 And and look it's it's especially because look a lot of times if you're a normal guy a lot of times they they they eventually stopped being fun.
02:22:51 And they stopped being fun.
02:22:56 One like think of it this way, there is the let me rephrase that.
02:23:01 They're most fun when you have when you're in your prime, when you're in your most productive, your brain is, is, is.
02:23:12 Still mushy and wrinkly and and ready.
Speaker 7
02:23:15 To go.Devon
02:23:17 Like a like.02:23:18 A sponge.
02:23:19 And instead of absorbing all of these stupid game tactics, all these different rules, all these different crafting things in Minecraft.
02:23:32 All these all the.
02:23:33 These all the hand eye coordination that's involved with being successful.
Speaker 19
02:23:41 You know all.Devon
02:23:41 Instead of your brain getting good at all this useless **** that in a few years you're.02:23:47 Not going to care.
02:23:47 About like I don't give a ****.
02:23:49 There was a time where like.
02:23:51 I played a lot of battlefield, like a lot of battlefield and a lot of Unreal tournament.
02:23:57 I don't give a **** about either.
02:23:58 One of those things right now.
02:24:00 I I really don't at all.
02:24:02 It's embarrassing that that I played that much, but at the time it wasn't embarrassed.
02:24:07 I I was.
02:24:08 You know, sadly proud of my accomplishments, right?
02:24:14 So if you're.
02:24:15 Playing Minecraft right now and and you're playing too much and you know if you're playing too much, I don't know, but you know.
02:24:25 I I can tell you this, there will come a time where you don't give a **** about Minecraft.
02:24:30 And you'll wonder why the **** you played all that Minecraft.
02:24:34 And you'll wonder what you could have been doing instead.
02:24:38 And look, there's a there's a real fake social aspect to a lot of games.
02:24:42 Now I'm assuming Minecraft would be the same way when I was playing Battlefield. I would be in a server A-Team speak server and talking to my friends and I would excuse.
02:24:54 I would, you know.
02:24:55 In fact, I would sit at my desk and as my friends were all at their computer desks around different parts.
02:25:00 Of the world.
02:25:02 And I would smoke pot and drink and, you know, hang out and I.
02:25:05 Would excuse, yeah.
02:25:07 Even though technically what I'm doing is I'm sitting in an apartment by myself, drinking and smoking pot.
02:25:15 Right.
02:25:15 That's really technically what I'm doing.
02:25:19 But it's fine because I'm on a headset with, you know, playing video games where other people doing the exact same thing.
02:25:26 You know Misery loves company.
02:25:29 So now at the same time, I'm not against.
02:25:32 I'm not against socializing in that way necessarily.
02:25:35 And you know, it is 2023, right? Technology is not inherently bad. It's not a bad thing to use technology to stay in touch with your friends or or even.
02:25:46 Maybe you know, virtually hang out with them.
02:25:49 Not even against that.
02:25:51 You know, look, look, right now we're kind of doing that now.
02:25:53 We're kind of virtually hanging out, right.
02:25:56 So I I I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that.
02:25:59 I just think that if you're playing a video game for.
02:26:07 When you're when you're prioritizing a video game.
02:26:12 Above other things that could be improving your life, that's when it's a problem.
02:26:17 And I think everyone, everyone listen to the sound of my voice.
02:26:21 You're the judge of that and you know.
02:26:23 You know, even if you're 1.
02:26:24 Of these addicted people.
02:26:25 That, like you, I don't have a problem.
02:26:27 Deep down, even those people know.
02:26:29 They might not say.
02:26:30 It not.
02:26:31 They might not even say it to themselves, but they know.
02:26:35 And so I'm talking to that part of your.
02:26:36 Brain that knows that's all I'm going to say.
02:26:42 All right.
02:26:43 Let's see here.
02:26:51 Oozy heart surgery. Bump.
02:26:55 Uzi heart surgery bump.
02:26:59 What is that?
02:27:01 Let's have a little look, see.
02:27:04 I'm going to open up opera again.
02:27:06 I I can't believe I haven't turned this ******* awful garbage off.
02:27:11 Switch to a different browser.
02:27:13 It's just.
02:27:16 I I've been working so much.
02:27:23 That this computer.
02:27:24 Honestly, it's funny cause it's just it's it's just been on since the last stream.
02:27:32 And all right, let me pop this on here.
Speaker 12
02:27:33 When he ran in.Devon
02:27:37 It's just been on and and I well, I mean it, it went to sleep, I guess so I just woke it up from the last stream and.02:27:46 And start going again.
02:27:48 Alright, let's see here.
02:27:51 And yet, because I closed OBS.
02:27:54 It forgets about opera every time.
Speaker 12
02:27:58 When he ran in.Speaker 3
02:27:59 Here to tell you that Boyd's father was dying.Speaker
02:28:03 He was thrilled.02:28:06 He should be.
Speaker 18
02:28:22 Donald, Donald.Devon
02:28:39 I remember that one.02:28:41 I remember that one.
02:28:43 Very nice, very nice.
02:28:47 Very right and very nice race car.
02:28:49 Now that was a good stream.
02:28:51 I remember that one.
02:28:54 J Ray, 971 Odyssey never promotes you when you're when.
Speaker 7
02:28:58 You go live.Devon
02:29:00 It shows up in my.02:29:02 I don't know how it normally because I don't really follow a lot of people and honestly or have the browser open or whatever.
02:29:07 But so I don't know what it's supposed to do, but I know that cause I follow my own channel.
02:29:13 If I go to the Odyssey page and I've and I've scheduled a A.
02:29:18 A stream.
02:29:19 It usually has the stream up there.
02:29:22 But I don't.
02:29:23 Know all the more reason to follow me on Telegram?
02:29:26 And on Gab, I suspect.
02:29:30 I suspect, and I don't know, and I have and I have.
02:29:35 I have no reason to believe this other than just my intuition.
02:29:41 I suspect the people at Odyssey are not super stoked.
02:29:47 They're they're most popular guys.
02:29:50 If I had to guess.
02:29:52 They're probably like, I don't like this.
02:29:58 If I'm just if I had to guess.
02:30:01 So I I wouldn't.
02:30:03 I'm not that if that if they're, if they're, you know, in some way suppressing it, I wouldn't be surprised.
02:30:09 But that said, I don't I.
02:30:10 Don't know.
02:30:11 I haven't seen any indication of that, so I don't know, maybe they are, maybe they're not.
Speaker 2
02:30:17 Veruca salt.Devon
02:30:26 Hi, Dave and I recently.02:30:26 Found out about this great Jewish run website jewishcontributions.com. It's got everything you'd want to know about Jewish excellence and their many contributions to our culture and world. It's quite the resource. Check it out, great and good. Good find there.
02:30:46 Let me.
02:30:47 Let me pop this bad boy up here.
02:30:50 Jewish contributions.com.
02:30:53 Oh, I don't think that this so it's it's not actually run by Jews.
02:30:57 It doesn't look like it looks like someone that's.
02:31:00 You know, on the on the.
02:31:03 And the our our guy realm runs this, huh?
02:31:08 Cause I don't think they'd be bragging that Robert Maxwell.
02:31:10 Maybe they would.
02:31:11 I don't know.
02:31:12 Would they really brag about Robert Robert Maxwell?
02:31:16 Robert Maxwell, for those who don't know, is Guillain Maxwell's dad, also Mossad agent. Also for my wasn't he?
02:31:25 Didn't he like **** with the American textbooks?
02:31:28 Wasn't was not part of his fortune as he bought the?
02:31:32 American textbook companies, or am I think of something else anyway, British media proprietor and former Member of Parliament noted for building an extensive publishing empire.
02:31:41 Yeah, I think this was him.
02:31:43 He he bought a lot of textbooks companies and and made some of the influential changes to the curriculum that you might expect.
02:31:52 Fun fact, after fighting for Czechoslovakian army in World War 2, Maxwell founded the Pergamon Press along with Paul Ross bowed.
02:32:03 He was also purchased.
02:32:05 Or he also purchased numerous publishing companies, such as the British Printing Corporation, Mirror Group Newspapers and Macmillan Publishers.
02:32:13 Yeah, a million, I think, is the big one that did.
02:32:14 All the textbooks.
02:32:16 His daughter Glane is a well known former British socialite, number number 541.
02:32:23 Oh, that's interesting.
02:32:25 We'll have to take a look.
02:32:26 At that sometime.
02:32:28 Maybe maybe when I'm.
02:32:30 I'm doing some research that'll be a good little resource there.
02:32:34 Cold cold flame in the past.
02:32:36 You've touched on how you may go about talking to those who do not understand what is going on, like how the guy.
02:32:44 Brought up the JQ to you. It fills a bit off to not just tell them like it is by. Understand the psychology.
02:32:52 Mind behind it and how saying it as you see it may result in them clinging to their position more fervently to avoid short circuiting after topics outside the Overton window.
02:33:06 Are brought up.
02:33:07 Do you see your approach as simply meeting people at their level?
02:33:13 Guiding or manipulation?
02:33:16 But who cares?
02:33:17 I don't mean this question in a loose with your head held high sense, but I do have morals and I'm interested in your perspective on the matter.
02:33:28 Really a lot of it boils down to.
02:33:32 Who said it?
02:33:33 Oh, what was it?
02:33:35 I maybe I don't know if it's Mark Twain, but someone said.
02:33:40 And I firmly believe it.
02:33:41 It is much easier to trick someone than it is or to fool someone than it is to convince them that they've been fooled.
02:33:49 People don't like to think that they've been tricked and they tend to double down, even when in the face of evidence that that proves them 100% wrong.
02:33:59 And they tend to dig in the more aggressive about it you get.
02:34:03 It's just human nature.
02:34:05 If you want it a a really good modern example that we are all probably familiar with.
02:34:10 Look at the cue cards.
02:34:11 Look how long?
02:34:13 Well, I mean, ****.
02:34:13 Some of them are still hanging on, right.
02:34:16 But even the, you know, like the the, the, the more mainstream.
02:34:19 Of mainstreams are were but the more.
02:34:21 Mainstream Q ***** that.
02:34:24 You know, evidence after evidence after evidence that it was all ******** kept coming out.
02:34:29 It was it was so obvious to anyone that was.
02:34:33 Relatively reasonable that, hey, this is all ********.
02:34:36 And the more you would point it out to them, the more aggressive I in fact, the more aggressive I got about it the the more they dug in.
02:34:45 It wasn't until I decided, well, if this isn't working, then maybe because I was in a position to do this this the other thing too is.
02:34:53 I'm just some I wouldn't do this to like a a A someone that I that I interacted with on a personal level like a A relative or a friend, but because I'm just like a guy on the Internet I I switched to ridicule as a, as a tactic.
02:35:10 By making all my videos that made fun of of instead of trying to use facts and trying to explain it in in like some, you know, reasonable debate type fashion, I just was like no the time for that's over now it's just time to make you look like a ******.
02:35:25 If you believe this **** and and look and I feel like that was effective.
02:35:30 To some extent, but it still didn't change the fact that you're you're, you know, you had people hanging on.
02:35:35 That doesn't work.
02:35:37 Now it works in the context of being some guy on the Internet.
02:35:40 It doesn't work in the context if, like my like, she didn't.
02:35:44 But like, let's say, my mom believed in in in Q Anon.
02:35:48 I couldn't just try to make her feel like a ****** for believing in it.
02:35:52 So it's it's really a case by case basis.
02:35:55 You have to know what your your level of influence with the people you're talking.
02:36:01 Into and.
02:36:05 And and you have to adjust.
02:36:08 Your tactics to to fit the person that you're talking to, but it doesn't mean no, I I'm against, I mean.
02:36:17 You mentioned what is it you said something about.
02:36:19 You don't want to lie?
02:36:21 Or what is it you said?
02:36:25 Do you see or manipulation?
02:36:29 I don't think it's manipulation, or at least not with the connotation that you're using that word to try to persuade people in a in a a way that's more effective.
02:36:43 You know, even if it means.
02:36:45 Not just coming at them and spewing autistic facts at them, it just wouldn't work like it it it's it's.
02:36:54 Like it's sales.
02:36:58 It really is. It's sales.
02:37:01 If you're a salesman.
02:37:04 And someone comes in that's looking for a car.
02:37:07 And you know the car that is best for them.
02:37:11 And you just can't.
02:37:12 You, you.
02:37:12 You just push it on him immediately.
02:37:15 It's human nature for them, for whatever reason, for them to to, to distrust your enthusiasm, you know.
02:37:23 It's it's much better if they feel as if they're the ones making the decision.
02:37:28 Maybe that's what it is, right?
02:37:30 Is if you come at them like they feel like they're submitting to you.
02:37:36 Right.
02:37:36 If you come at them with like this hammer of of, of facts and whatever, and you're trying to like in order for them to.
02:37:44 Agree with you in that context, they have to submit to you.
02:37:49 So it's a power thing now.
02:37:51 Now it's no longer you're trying to convince them of, you know what's true and what's not true.
02:37:58 Now it's you're trying to make them your *****.
02:38:00 You know that?
02:38:01 Like, that's.
02:38:03 That that's basically how it comes across, I think to people when you when you come at them like that and so they immediately don't want even if you're right, they don't want to agree with you because it's so confrontational that the only way they can agree with you, it's going to feel to them as if.
02:38:24 They're they're submitting to you.
02:38:26 They're being and and and.
02:38:27 And that's not, that's not going to work on.
02:38:30 That's gonna work.
02:38:31 That'll work on some people, but it's not going to work on most people.
02:38:35 So I guess that's really what it boils down to is it's case by case basis, who are you and you know who?
02:38:41 Why are you influential with this person?
02:38:43 Are you influential with this person?
02:38:45 And trying to get them to not see it as as them submitting to your worldview, but rather they are discovering.
02:39:00 Their own truth, I mean to put it in, you know, kind of gay terms.
02:39:04 But you get what I'm saying, I think.
02:39:07 Hopefully that helps.
02:39:09 Micronova Mr.
02:39:11 Black pill.
02:39:12 Don't be jealous of the owner.
02:39:13 Class Jays picking themselves up by their bootstraps.
02:39:18 With their extraordinary high Iqs, it's only natural that the clip ***** can see the future.
02:39:25 That's why they removed their money right before any banks had an emergency.
02:39:30 It's a coincidence.
Speaker 24
02:39:33 It's very.Devon
02:39:35 I think you're right.02:39:36 It is a coincidence.
02:39:39 It is a coincidence.
02:39:42 Veruca salt.
Speaker 23
02:39:50 YouTube Baby party bus.Devon
02:39:52 Speaking of Jewish contributions to the zeitgeist, maybe you saw my gab post on this, but did you know that the tattoo business as we know it today is largely a Jewish industry?02:40:06 From jimmytabletmag.com I didn't know that, but that would make sense. Look, here's the.
02:40:12 One thing honestly the it's.
02:40:14 Here's something I think people need to think about.
02:40:18 And this relates heavily to everything we've talked about tonight about.
02:40:22 Ohh no, you need everyone's individual or whatever capitalism.
02:40:29 Let's look. I'm not going.
02:40:31 To make in a vacuum is capitalism bad?
02:40:34 I don't know.
02:40:35 In the context of a of a cohesive homogeneous Christian society?
02:40:44 Probably not.
02:40:47 What the problem is, is capitalism plus Jews equals lots of bad ****.
02:40:53 You put those two ingredients together.
02:40:57 And you get, you know.
02:40:59 Well, the tattoo industry apparently let me take a look and see what this.
02:41:04 Because look, they they not only do they they.
02:41:06 They not feel connected to you.
02:41:09 And all these things we talked about tonight about all the video game manufacturers, they're like, well, if you don't like it, don't buy it.
02:41:15 Or if you don't like this movie, don't watch it.
02:41:17 If you don't like this.
02:41:17 Music. Don't listen.
02:41:18 To it.
02:41:18 If you don't want, you know.
02:41:19 All all this, this, this boomer conservative libertarian kind of viewing of.
02:41:29 Of of of our culture being, you know, voluntarily handed over to people who hate us.
02:41:38 That's that's really what what it comes down to is it's just Jews, Jews who don't care if it hurts you.
02:41:45 That's kind of the point.
02:41:46 Some of the times, you know.
02:41:48 I don't see this this that link you gave me sent me somewhere.
02:41:51 Just generic didn't send me to UM.
02:41:55 Didn't send me to.
02:41:56 The the tattoo article or wait, maybe I looked it up wrong.
02:42:05 Ohh I did look it up.
02:42:06 OK, I brought it up wrong.
02:42:07 Hang on.
02:42:19 What are?
02:42:20 What are they?
02:42:20 What's their?
02:42:22 I have found, by the way, for those of you, if you just want to figure out what what an article is about, read the first paragraph or two and the last.
02:42:29 Every time, every time I read yet another personal essay by a young Jew or Jewish about how I got in, I got a tiny tattoo and my parents are really upset, but I guess, but guess what?
02:42:41 I can still get buried in a Jewish cemetery.
02:42:43 My eyes roll back.
02:42:44 So far in my head, I worry that they will get stuck that way.
02:42:49 Alright, little known fact, the tattoo business as we know it.
02:42:53 Was largely created by Jews, Lewis, Lew the Jew.
02:42:57 Alberts, Charlie Wagner, Brooklyn Joe lieber.
02:43:01 William Moskowitz.
02:43:02 Milton Zeiss.
02:43:04 These are the founding fathers who created the art of American tattooing and the technology that helped establish the industry.
02:43:11 Well, there it goes now.
02:43:14 And if we get to the?
02:43:15 Last article or last paragraph.
02:43:17 It's usually and that's a good thing.
02:43:19 Of the last two, the tattoo band was like oh.
02:43:21 Look, is there a tattoo band?
02:43:23 And I got to back up here a little bit.
02:43:25 Another thing I wanted to talk about that I forgot to.
02:43:30 I had a cough there for a second.
02:43:32 Is Jews, you know, Speaking of the video, the the history of of video games and Jews involvement and all this stuff.
02:43:40 You realize that a lot of these companies, you know, not like.
02:43:47 I don't think you know well, obviously not Sony, right?
02:43:49 But like pinball machines, when pinball machines were first introduced.
02:43:56 By or or, you know out of Chicago and other places in America.
02:44:03 It was a lot of Jewish gangsters, you know, Gottlieb, you know all these?
02:44:09 What's the other one?
02:44:10 The big one with that starts with W.
02:44:13 And anyway, all the big all the big pinball machine companies were were Jews.
02:44:20 And they at one point the Christian majority.
02:44:26 For the same reason that they were, you know that the they were worried about EverQuest.
02:44:31 We're worried about pinball machines.
02:44:33 There was a machine that there that that young men were sticking money into.
02:44:39 And they got really nothing out of it.
02:44:40 It was just this machine that sucked up money.
02:44:44 And people thought, well, this is bad and they literally banned pinball machines in America for decades.
02:44:51 They were allowed to keep making the pinball machines and exporting them like all the big companies in Chicago that manufactured the pinball machines, kept making them and and but they were for export only.
02:45:03 In fact, there's old photos.
02:45:05 Let me see if I can find it.
02:45:06 There's old photos.
02:45:07 We'll get to this in a second.
02:45:08 I just want to finish this little side thought.
02:45:11 Of them burning old pinball machines.
02:45:20 Let me see if I can find these things.
02:45:25 Yeah. So it's like, like prohibition, almost, you know, so this is Los Angeles, 1940.
02:45:33 You know this is them.
02:45:36 Smashing pinball machines with sledgehammers because they were banned.
02:45:40 It was contraband.
02:45:42 Why is this not?
02:45:44 Behaving the way I think you know, it doesn't matter.
02:45:49 And here's another photo.
02:45:51 That's the I think that's the Mayor of Chicago at the time is that Mayor Daley or whoever smashing pinball machine with a sledgehammer.
02:46:03 I mean, a lot of people don't know that.
02:46:04 It was literally a Jewish.
02:46:08 Mobsters that invented this coin operated business.
02:46:11 In fact, that Guy Larry brilliant, that supposedly cured polio.
02:46:16 So in India, with the vaccine that was behind that pandemic movie that basically told you what was they were trying to do with COVID-19.
02:46:30 He his dad was in the coin op business.
02:46:34 That's where his money came from.
02:46:36 It was he was in the Juke boxes.
02:46:39 Similar, you know?
02:46:42 You know a similar thing anyway.
02:46:45 Let's go back to this.
02:46:46 Where was this at?
02:46:48 So there was a ban on tattoos at some point.
02:46:51 Tattoo band left the 97 was a tattoo band.
02:46:58 There we go.
02:47:02 You know, we might have.
02:47:02 I might have the brace for this.
02:47:04 I'm curious now.
Speaker
02:47:07 Alright, blah blah blah.Devon
02:47:10 Lou was one of the first creators of Flash, the similar or familiar drawings and paintings on the walls, tattoo shops, a.02:47:17 Glance at Hardee's book shows the influence of the wallpaper design blah blah blah blah tattoo collector Brad Fink.
02:47:23 I'm a German Jew.
Speaker
02:47:25 Blah blah, blah, blah blah blah.Devon
02:47:27 At the time, there was a stigma of being Jewish.02:47:30 Lou the Jew actually claimed it, Fink told me.
02:47:32 This is just speculation, but there were a lot of tattooers back in the day, changing his name.
02:47:38 Was a way to distinguish himself for a while.
02:47:41 Lou was in business with Charlie Wagner, another groundbreaking turn of the century Jewish Tattooer Wagner at a a shop of a shop on the Bowery, as well as on the.
02:47:54 Chatham Square, both men designed tattoo machines based on the perforating pen.
Speaker
02:48:00 Blah blah blah.Devon
02:48:01 Like they start based on the perforating pen technology patented by Thomas Edison.02:48:06 Just like they stole the the the movie industry technology from Thomas Edison.
02:48:13 Go figure.
02:48:15 Yeah, let's see here.
02:48:17 Blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:48:19 Wagner was.
02:48:21 Better known for the commerce than for the art he pursued publicly, relentlessly, he pursued publicity with a relentlessness that would make any tattoo reality, show star proud, winning, gushing profiles and newspapers, women's magazines, and drastically undercutting other artist prices in undated letters from the 1940s or 19.
02:48:42 50s printed in Hardee's book.
02:48:46 Blah blah blah.
02:48:47 All right, Wagner seemed to know.
02:48:49 All right, where we go.
02:48:50 Let's get to the part where they banned it.
02:48:53 Like you just keep talking and memorable piece published by the forward over a decade ago, about 3 generations of the Moskowitz tattoo dynasty.
02:49:02 It's very jewy, Gabrielle Bertner wrote by the day Willie son, Walter studied the Torah and the Talmid at Brooklyn Yeshiva.
02:49:12 By night he learned the tattoo.
02:49:13 Straight in his father's shop, located beneath the old Chatham Square elevated train station, #4.
02:49:20 Walter and his brother Stanley inherited the Bowery shop when Willie died in 1961. But like any or many generations of post war Jews, they left the city for the bucolic joys of Long Island, where they opened a S&W tattooing in Amityville or.
02:49:40 Where's the man?
02:49:43 Tattooed Lobo. Here we go.
02:49:49 A 1943 year Times article observed with characteristics stuffiness the back in the 90s, it was the fashionably tattooed the British, a Russian, German, and Scandinavian airs apparent, along with the lesser royalty were tattooed while Junketing in their respective navies.
02:50:07 The late George, the fifth of England, returned from the Orient with a dragon tattooed on his arm.
02:50:14 Continental royalty and nobility imitated the English social socialites.
02:50:20 Through the 1920s had dainty tattoos on their wrists and shoulders, and it became trendy among the New York City wealthy to visit. The Japanese tattoo artist.
02:50:31 But what with that whole cyclical?
02:50:35 Well, that whole cyclical thing, tattooing fell out of favor during the depression of the war years.
02:50:39 Soon it became associated with low class CD types, using the pretext of hepatitis outbreak.
02:50:45 Blah blah blah.
02:50:47 Where does it?
02:50:48 Get to the part where they ******* ban it.
02:50:53 It doesn't say it just sells it.
02:50:55 Alright, well, apparently we banned tattoos at some point.
02:50:59 I don't know why they.
02:50:59 I don't understand where it says the tattoo band is lifted in 1997.
02:51:05 People could get tattoos before 1997.
02:51:09 I don't know.
02:51:09 Maybe New York City had some kind of weird ban on tattoo shops, cause they they're ***** about Rudy Giuliani for something.
02:51:17 Yeah, not surprised at all.
02:51:19 Not surprised at all.
02:51:21 They are the ones that monetize vice better than any other group in well in history.
02:51:29 Not happier, 64 says. Hey, Devin. Been thinking about the nukes recently and been wondering what would happen before the nukes come in.
02:51:37 Your opinion? What would be the final sign that we should board up our Windows or get the **** out? Or do you think it would just happen randomly? PS If you go to nukemap.com?
02:51:50 You can see how bad it would.
02:51:52 I mean, I don't know.
02:51:55 It's one of these things.
02:51:56 It's impossible to know.
02:51:58 It's one of those things that like, I really doubt that the people who would have the power to deploy nuclear weapons against the United States would do it in such a way that I'd be able to see it coming.
02:52:11 You know what I mean?
02:52:12 Like or.
02:52:13 Because, for that matter, or that the United States Intelligence Agency be able to see it coming because that would kind of defeat the purpose.
02:52:21 Right then we we go right back to the whole mutually.
02:52:27 Assured destruction.
02:52:28 Right.
02:52:30 I I just don't think that that would be how it would.
02:52:32 It would go down anyway.
02:52:34 You'd have to.
02:52:35 I'll tell you what.
02:52:35 If you start to see someone that has control of a nuclear arsenal, doing really irrational, erratic things, and I don't mean like the way that they're that the mainstream media paints.
02:52:47 Putin, like he's some kind of madman, you know.
02:52:50 But I mean, like, actually doing it right?
02:52:52 Like, that's why North Korea has always been interesting.
02:52:54 Right?
02:52:54 Because you never know.
02:52:58 That's the kind of irrational madman type **** that you know you never know.
02:53:03 You know, so I I don't know.
02:53:06 I don't think it's the kind of thing.
02:53:07 It's not the it's not the sort of thing that keeps me up at night.
02:53:11 It's not the sort of thing that I worry about and and it's not the kind of thing you can really do much to protect yourself against anyway.
02:53:20 I feel like if if if you're in an area that would be a a military target, you know, what are you going?
02:53:30 To do about.
02:53:31 It you know like.
02:53:33 You can't really run away from.
02:53:35 I think it's a lot more survivable than you know than the movies make it look like you know, it's not like everyone and and Hiroshima died and then they they didn't.
02:53:44 A lot of people did.
02:53:45 If you're near the blast zone like you're going to, you know you're vaporized.
02:53:49 That's it.
02:53:50 But if you're just in the country outside of a a major population zone, you're probably.
02:53:55 Going to be good.
02:53:56 I think the I think the effects of fallout and radiation are a little overblown to not they're not, they're not fake, but I think it's a little over overblown.
02:54:07 So I wouldn't.
02:54:08 I wouldn't worry too much about it.
02:54:09 I don't think we're in that in that zone yet.
02:54:14 Micronova you know that quote Hitler made that his spirit will rise again.
02:54:20 Check it off.
02:54:21 Will happen using his speeches, books and likeness, there will be a Hitler also.
02:54:26 AI Super Jew shift's about to get lit. Yeah, that'd be kind of fun. Have a debate.
02:54:33 That's, that's actually something that would be interesting to to see if you could set up debates against two different API's that were not, by the way, programmed to reach some kind of predetermined.
02:54:51 You know, stalemate or end, you know, to the the debate, you actually have an AI to, to program, to think like 2 famous figures.
02:55:01 It would.
02:55:01 Be very interesting to see.
02:55:03 Some of that stuff, some of those arguments go down.
02:55:07 Homeland Karl Marx was running Lincoln's propaganda machine in London to keep the UK out of the war. The Corwin amendment that Lincoln was pushing would have kept slavery intact until the 1920s. Who else is in London? The Rothschilds.
02:55:27 Well, you I don't know much about that specific topic that you're talking about there, but none of that would surprise me, not even.
02:55:36 Little bit.
02:55:39 Hammer thorazine.
02:55:48 I am noticing that women mid 20s and younger often don't capitalize their own names.
02:55:54 Some never capitalize anything and get mad if you mention it to eliminate auto capitalization on your phone, you have to go out of your way and they do.
02:56:05 Just another sign of the disdain for our language.
02:56:10 I don't know that.
Speaker
02:56:11 You, I mean you.Devon
02:56:11 Make a good point though in order.02:56:13 To turn off, I mean.
02:56:14 I'm I I've never tried to do that.
02:56:16 I I'm assuming there's a setting to do that, but yeah, you'd have to actively.
02:56:21 It's not the default.
02:56:22 You'd have to go in there and actively turn it off.
02:56:25 I don't know why they would dislike capital letters.
02:56:30 Maybe they they see it as as more childlike.
02:56:34 And I think that a lot of women these days, which I mean in terms of, I mean just by what I am observing on the Internet, at least a lot of women are mistaking.
02:56:49 Being childlike with being feminine.
02:56:55 I don't know.
02:56:55 I don't even know.
02:56:56 That's like a new phenomenon.
02:56:57 I think that a lot of women think that being childlike is is feminine and maybe it is kind of a little bit because, I mean, let's be honest.
02:57:10 And women are kind of like they kind of think like children sometimes, you know.
02:57:15 Uh, I don't know that it's it's specifically.
02:57:19 And affront to the English language.
02:57:21 I don't know that women would think that deeply about it.
02:57:23 Know and you know not to be like you know, an own women.
02:57:27 But you know, I just don't think that.
02:57:28 They would, I think they probably just think it's cutesy.
Speaker
02:57:31 You know.Devon
02:57:32 But I've I've never, I've.02:57:33 Never super noticed that either, but I also don't interact with a lot of mid 20s.
02:57:39 And younger women, so.
02:57:42 That might be why I'm not seeing that.
02:57:47 Jay ray.
02:57:51 81.
Speaker 15
02:57:59 My grandpa, Manheim.02:58:02 Let's go carting around trying to visit him.
02:58:05 Once my travel visa was protesting with the show.
Devon
02:58:10 I have no idea.02:58:11 About the GDL, whether they are helping or hurting.
02:58:15 But man, I'll tell you DeSantis and his Jew underlings are going hard against free speech in Florida.
02:58:25 You know, I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to all that on either side, but I know.
02:58:30 Marginally about what you're talking about.
02:58:32 And I think what you're talking about is there are some people being very confrontational, shall we say publicly.
02:58:44 With Jews and DeSantis, who was, of course, a defender of Jews.
02:58:53 From what I I've read and I I don't know all the INS and outs of it, I've just literally just seen headlines in a couple of clips I haven't read.
02:59:00 The legislation itself.
02:59:03 But they they're trying to pass anti-Semitism laws essentially in Florida.
02:59:09 The the problem with that is.
02:59:12 Let's say they pass this stuff and try to implement it.
02:59:16 It's it's the kind of thing that will go to the Supreme Court like it will.
02:59:20 It'll go to the Supreme Court.
02:59:21 It's clearly a First Amendment violation.
02:59:24 But what happens if it goes the Supreme Court and the the, you know, Jewish Trump appointees?
02:59:33 And and you know, not that they're Jewish, but you know, I mean, and the lefties somehow decide that that this is, you know, you you can't. You can't go against you can't be pro anti-Semitism right.
02:59:50 You know, even the Supreme Court, so maybe this is the this is how the 1st amendment gets.
02:59:57 Gets the road.
02:59:58 I don't know, though I don't know.
03:00:02 I haven't. I'm not super.
03:00:06 Worried about that just yet?
03:00:08 But I would say look, it's it's a.
03:00:12 It's not.
03:00:12 It's not a good sign that that so many people, because, you know De Santis, let's face it, is, is is, you know, right wing, I get not right wing.
03:00:21 But you know, I mean like American, right, mainstream, mainstream right.
03:00:28 And if American mainstream right.
03:00:32 Is down with anti-Semitism laws than they are.
03:00:36 That's not a.
03:00:36 Good thing because I don't don't don't think as if the mainstream left isn't also down, I mean.
03:00:42 Look, there's, there's.
03:00:43 One thing that the the American left and right can always agree on, right, and that is.
03:00:49 Anything that Jews want is is a OK.
03:00:53 So we'll see.
03:00:54 It's something I'm I'm keeping an eye on, but it's just it hasn't gotten to a.
03:01:00 It's not until it hits the Supreme Court it's not real because I don't live in Florida.
03:01:07 UM.
03:01:09 If it's the Supreme Court, then it's that's when it could get bad.
03:01:14 Where where the where the hell did the?
03:01:15 ******* thing, go.
03:01:19 Here we go.
03:01:24 Again, let's see here.
03:01:31 Also, regarding modern women, chest tattoos are the new tramp stamps.
03:01:37 Big red flag ink that goes under the ***** and bends up along the sternum. These are the same girls who pull dance for fitness every day. We stray further from God's light. Yeah, I I I.
03:01:55 I dated a very tatted up girl for a while.
03:01:58 Once it was never, never.
03:02:01 That was never what I liked.
03:02:02 About her was.
03:02:03 With the tattoos.
03:02:04 Were were never a bonus.
03:02:06 You know, it was more just like.
Speaker
03:02:08 Why'd you do this?Devon
03:02:13 What was what was?03:02:15 Yeah, yeah. You ever notice?
03:02:18 Am I the only one that's ever noticed that every every girl I've known that's been really into tattoos?
03:02:25 They're usually.
03:02:28 Like ex addicts and I mean like, you know, like hard, you know, like meth or heroin or, you know, something.
03:02:35 Like there something?
03:02:36 Bad, you know?
03:02:38 Or they were like really abused.
03:02:40 I don't mean like I'm a girl and I'm.
03:02:43 I mean, like they were.
03:02:44 If something bad happened.
03:02:46 I don't think there are any.
03:02:48 Normal, well adjusted white women, at least.
03:02:56 That that go.
03:02:57 Out and and tap themselves up and that might apply to men too.
03:03:02 You know, there might be a lot.
03:03:03 It just seems like everyone I know, but especially women that are really into tattoos.
03:03:10 It almost seems like it's almost like a form of cutting.
03:03:14 You know, it's like it will cause literally it's self mutilation, right?
03:03:17 And it really is.
03:03:18 It's just that it's social, somewhat socially acceptable, self mutilation.
03:03:25 And instead of stars it's, you know, a picture of a.
03:03:29 You know some.
03:03:32 Japanese character that they don't know the meaning of, or something stupid and gay like that.
03:03:38 But yeah, yeah, tattoos.
03:03:41 I've got.
03:03:42 I've got I.
03:03:43 I was tempted.
03:03:44 I've got zero tattoos.
03:03:46 But it it you know, it was so socially accepted and so cool.
03:03:50 I thought about it.
03:03:51 My reasoning for never doing it was I knew how often I like to change, you know, my style, my hair and other things.
03:04:01 And and just that, nothing.
03:04:02 Nothing that I I knew that whatever I got tattooed.
03:04:06 I would think was really cool, like as I was getting it tattooed, but inevitably I would it would look ******** no matter what it was.
03:04:15 Eventually I'd be like why do I have this?
03:04:18 This is.
03:04:19 This was cool for like a week.
03:04:21 You know, it's like having to have the same haircut for the rest.
03:04:23 Of your life, it's, you know.
03:04:28 But anyway.
03:04:31 My fat little ******** toe, alright?
03:04:35 I only did it once.
03:04:36 I'm not.
03:04:36 Gonna do the whole thing again.
03:04:39 I have nothing intelligent to say tonight.
Speaker 7
03:04:40 Can I have a?Devon
03:04:41 Grocery store?03:04:41 Well, you already got one.
03:04:42 Before you got you.
03:04:43 Got a good, good, good, good, good, good, good.
03:04:44 How about that?
03:04:48 I can't be.
03:04:49 Responsible for the for damage to ear drums.
03:04:53 Homeland, early state constitutions in the West prevented blacks from way early state constitutions in the West prevented blacks from moving to their states, bottling up blacks in the South and securing 30 plus years of of single party rule, just like the day with illegal aliens.
03:05:13 Same damn.
03:05:14 Playbook as today a reconstruction was the persecution story.
03:05:18 Of white southerners.
03:05:22 Wait, hold on early state constitutions in the West prevented blacks from moving to their states, bottling up blacks in the South and securing their well, yeah, except for now.
03:05:34 It's almost like the opposite.
03:05:35 It's like their their purpose they're targeting.
03:05:40 White areas, they're shipping, quote UN quote refugees into, you know, the American Midwest, into Idaho. They're shipping illegal look. Speaking of DeSantis, right or no. Well, it wasn't DeSantis. It was a.
03:05:56 The Zionist Governor of of Texas, right, or maybe DeSantis did it too.
03:06:02 Whether you know they they make it a big joke like, oh, look, we're we're sending all these illegal immigrants to a lefty state.
03:06:09 And first of all, it's like, why aren't you saying them back to to Mexico? You know, you're you're kind of missing the point. You're just. But the federal government's doing that, right? I mean, they're doing the same thing.
03:06:21 Federal government saying them to to states that quote UN quote can handle it and.
03:06:27 It's it's don't think as if.
03:06:29 I mean obviously that's they're looking at, I guarantee you in the same way that guy at the SPLC had a a little sheet on the side of his cubicle.
03:06:40 I'm I'm spacing his name that Jewish guy that he's no longer at the SPLC I don't think.
03:06:46 But he had that scorecard on his cubicle wall, counting down basically to, you know, the the white, the white displacement in America.
03:06:55 Don't think there's not federal agents and bureaucrats with that exact kind of thing in their cubicle.
03:07:05 Friendly neighborhood fascist Devon if it collapses eminent.
03:07:08 Why is it important that we carry on the about the Abrahamic torch?
03:07:13 We shouldn't have to perpetuate Jewish mythology that denies race.
03:07:18 We can start over in a race conscious way.
03:07:21 We need to, heresy be damned, should.
03:07:25 Race come first.
03:07:27 Well, I mean, look, if you're talking that we need to discard Christianity because America is is probably going to cease to exist in its current form in, you know, in historically soon terms.
03:07:43 I I don't think that's a a justification to get rid of it and and look and I, as I said many, many times, Christianity is not race blind.
03:07:51 That's just the way boomers practice it.
03:07:54 God's constantly talk or in the Bible, like there's constant mention of race and God's making different.
03:08:03 Or or, or attributing different races with different characteristics and making different promises that different races and expecting different outcomes for different races.
03:08:11 The the Bible is full of racial thinking, it's just the.
03:08:16 Many Christians don't.
03:08:18 Don't practice it that way.
03:08:22 And look, it's even if.
03:08:25 Let's just say in in because I'm.
03:08:28 I'm I take it from how you asked that you think that Christianity is ********.
03:08:33 Let's say you're right and it's all ******** and it's it's somehow a.
03:08:41 It's a.
03:08:42 It's holding, it's holding white people back, right?
03:08:45 Because of, I don't know what it is, but let's say that somehow it.
03:08:49 Is it's you, you you're not going to be able to just swiftly.
03:08:58 You know, a millennia of of European history and replace it with with ancient superstitions that no one has seriously practiced for, like, ever.
03:09:11 You know you can't act as if Europe hasn't been Christian for centuries.
03:09:18 And and just pull some, you know, primitive religion from pre Christian times.
03:09:27 Out and throw it on the table and expect people to follow it and.
03:09:32 The same token, you can't not have religion.
03:09:36 You know you can't.
03:09:38 You have to have a religious component if you want.
03:09:42 The like.
03:09:43 What do you think is the glue that holds Jews together?
03:09:46 I mean, sure, they're ethnically tied, but that's only a part of it.
03:09:50 And they're not even all ethnically tied.
03:09:51 You know, you've got the Sephardic, you've got the ashkenazis.
03:09:54 You've even got The Ethiopians, you know, you got different kinds of Jews.
03:09:58 The glue that holds them together is their religious tradition.
03:10:02 And that is something that is a glue that holds many white Europeans together might obviously not you, but many white Europeans, that is the the common ground that they.
03:10:14 Have and I think it's foolish to just throw it out the window, especially if you have nothing to replace it with and there's nothing.
03:10:21 There's nothing that you could believably implement.
03:10:27 I mean, look, if you if you think you can start a religious movement that is going to dwarf or any clips Christianity in the West, by all means, you know.
03:10:37 I'm just saying that's a big that's a big undertaking right there.
03:10:42 And it it it it that it just seems like it's a weird thing to fixate on.
03:10:47 I think it's people, people.
03:10:51 People that are fixated on on in in order to help the West.
03:10:56 I I think that this this sentiment sounds insane to me.
03:10:59 You know, the idea that in order to to for the West to survive, we must destroy Christianity.
03:11:06 Like that?
03:11:07 Just seems like a you know.
03:11:09 A misguided.
03:11:11 Thought process to have and if anything, I think that the fall of the West tracks exactly with the the erosion of Christianity in the West, you know.
03:11:26 I mean it it just it does like, you know, church attendance has been dropping while you know, in lockstep with all of these problems skyrocketing.
03:11:37 So, you know, it is what it is.
03:11:43 Ryan is cool.
03:11:44 Hey, Devin.
03:11:44 Going to have to catch the replay.
03:11:47 So I don't know the topic, but I was curious what your thoughts on Ron Paul are.
03:11:52 I know a lot of people started being radicalized from him, but he is a politician, so I was curious, radicalized from Ron Paul.
03:12:06 I mean, you know.
03:12:07 I not really.
03:12:08 I don't think they're radicalized, I mean.
03:12:10 He's a, you know, he, he.
Speaker 7
03:12:18 He's old.Devon
03:12:22 It's it's, it's.03:12:24 It's amazing that he still does his uh.
03:12:28 You know his his videos pretty regularly, right?
03:12:31 I think he did one.
03:12:32 Today, in fact.
03:12:37 Yeah, he did.
03:12:38 He's talking to the banks even even today.
03:12:40 He had a new one.
03:12:43 Yeah, he's a libertarian.
03:12:44 He's a libertarian.
03:12:45 He's never going to get out of that, that.
03:12:51 It was at a time when I think that.
03:12:55 It's it's.
03:12:56 It's why I don't fully regret.
03:12:59 My libertarian phase.
03:13:01 Because I feel like there really was a libertarian to dissident right pipeline that still exists to some extent.
03:13:11 And I feel like they're they're really because the libertarian.
03:13:17 Mindset was.
03:13:20 It was, it was.
03:13:21 Most of what made it libertarianism attractive to I think a lot of people, including myself was, I think we innately understood that conservatism wasn't working.
03:13:33 That what we were doing wasn't working.
03:13:36 So maybe let's try this other thing.
03:13:38 You know, it's called libertarianism.
03:13:42 There's a lot of it that it seems super rational and a lot of it seems really logical.
03:13:48 And so maybe this will work as conservatism.
03:13:51 First of all, isn't even really coherent.
03:13:54 And at least libertarianism is coherent, right?
03:13:58 Like you, you can easily sum up to anyone what it means to be a libertarian, right?
03:14:04 You know, it's all about personal responsibility.
03:14:07 And, you know, and and low, low or no taxes.
03:14:15 You know, small or no government, you know, depending how far you want to go with it, right, it's it's it's pretty easy to sum up what libertarians want and what their ideology is.
03:14:26 But conservatives, it's like.
03:14:28 What they want to conserve things, you know?
03:14:32 Obviously not because they haven't been and they've won a lot of elections and they still don't seem to be.
03:14:38 That doesn't seem to be their function.
03:14:40 So what is?
03:14:41 What is it they want?
03:14:42 I guess conservatism means dying for Israel.
03:14:45 I mean, really?
03:14:45 I mean, what does it mean?
03:14:47 Because that seems to be.
03:14:48 The only thing that conservatives seem to ever be able to accomplish in any kind of big way is is serving Israel.
03:14:58 You know, if there's something that a Republican wants to do that's in in Israel's interest, it will get done.
03:15:06 If it's something that a Conservative politician claims he wants to do, that's in the interest of his constituents.
03:15:14 It probably won't get done.
03:15:16 I can't think of anything, any big wins that conservatives have made in my lifetime.
03:15:21 So I think libertarianism and Ron Paul along with that because he was, I think probably the gateway for a lot of people because he ran as a Republican.
03:15:28 So I think a lot of people got curious.
03:15:30 About you know what? What?
03:15:32 What the concerns are doing and.
03:15:34 Isn't doing isn't working.
03:15:35 It's not doing ****, so let's try this and you know, and you also had a.
03:15:40 A lot of people that had an.
03:15:42 Innate distrust of government, which is very healthy given the the I think that's the thing.
03:15:51 Too is they've never, and maybe.
03:15:52 Ron Paul hasn't either.
03:15:53 Maybe he has and just he hides his power level, but I don't know.
03:15:56 I don't know.
03:15:57 The case but.
03:15:58 A lot of these people, if you really don't want to analyze.
03:16:02 Why there's a problem with the things that you have a problem with you would you would come to the conclusion that that Jews are behind a lot of it.
03:16:13 Like just, I mean really, if you look at all the things that libertarians and conservatives for that matter, complain.
03:16:20 About if, if you were to really look at the people behind the things they're complaining about, it's with with their, with relative regularity, it's.
03:16:31 That's Jewish.
03:16:32 People behind that stuff, you know.
03:16:35 So yeah, that's the.
03:16:38 Yeah, but Ron Paul, I don't think he's radicalizing one.
03:16:41 I I think that and and look his he's almost dead.
03:16:44 I mean, right.
03:16:45 And and last time his son Rand Paul.
03:16:48 But Rand Paul isn't even as.
03:16:51 And his base quote UN quote, based as his dad.
03:16:56 ******** ****** for one.
03:16:58 Dollar $1.00 my list is so long now.
Speaker 9
03:17:03 Do you have that much money in your bank at home?Devon
03:17:07 I'd buy that for a dollar.03:17:16 My list of animations and stuff I need to find a better way of organizing this then please talk about the current banking collapse. My autism is begging for it. I I was a high schooler when 08.
03:17:27 Well, like I said, there's not much to say about it other than.
03:17:31 You know, they're. They'll get bailed out. I find it hard to imagine that anyone's going to get in trouble over it, or that any of the rich people are going to lose any, you know, and they might lose, like, slap on the wrist, money, but not.
03:17:43 You know that they'll never have to.
03:17:46 There's never going to be someone in finance that ***** up so bad.
03:17:51 They end up having to sell.
03:17:53 Vanilla lattes at Starbucks.
03:17:55 You know that's never going to happen.
03:17:57 They're they're never going to be put in the kind of financial peril that you would be put in if you just missed, like, some car payments or something like that.
03:18:06 You know, like, if you that that's, that's the game.
03:18:10 That's the game is once you're in the club, you're in the club and the club protects it.
03:18:15 Their own like that, that money.
03:18:18 That's which is all fake and gay anyway.
03:18:20 Gets funneled to the people that would be doing the punishing.
03:18:25 So if you've if you've paid off the right people, you've greased the the right palms.
03:18:28 Nothing's going to happen if you just want to know, like, what's happening with it, you know, like, I don't know, like it, it seems to be changing. It's a.
03:18:37 Pretty fluid situation right now.
03:18:40 Uh, let me take a look here.
03:18:42 The last thing I got.
03:18:45 Umm yeah, they're already already talking about bailout talks.
03:18:48 This is Washington Post.
03:18:50 Federal officials faced growing pressure Saturday to bail out even the biggest customers of the collapsed Silicon Valley bank.
03:18:57 You know, igniting A ferocious political debate.
03:19:00 Like, look, there was a ferocious political debate in two.
03:19:03 1008 two.
03:19:04 Over Washington role and tamping down potential threats to the broader US, you know, financial.
03:19:11 You know, whatever tech executives, former government officials and at least two Democratic lawmakers called for safeguarding depositors with money at stake in the collapse of a buyer for the bank's assets isn't found by Monday, arguing that it's the only way to limit a cascade of it's literally 2008 all over again.
03:19:30 They said all of this **** in 2000. Ohh, we better stop it. If we don't, it's going to spread like a virus and destroy the entire economy.
03:19:38 Companies that did business with Silicon Valley Bank are already warning that banks failure may force thousands of layoffs or furloughs and prevent many workers from receiving their next paycheck.
03:19:50 See, This is why the answer isn't that you bail them out.
03:19:53 The answer is you execute all the people responsible publicly.
03:19:59 And they and all the other banks suddenly will stop making risky plays if they see that happen.
03:20:05 But there's no stick.
03:20:06 The only carrot for these ******* people.
03:20:09 Some experts worry that large numbers of companies could move to transfer their money from regional banks similar to SVB to to safer giant commercial banks Monday, leading to a fresh run of destabilization.
03:20:22 Oh, it's a contagion.
03:20:24 A contagion.
03:20:27 A move to make Silicon Valley banks depositors whole without a buyer would probably require Congress to pass legislation just like it did in 2008.
03:20:37 Driver Insurance Fund paid into by all banks and backed by US taxpayers, like in 2008.
03:20:46 A fund that typically only covers deposits up to Federal Deposit Insurance corps limit of $250,000. That's the you go to a bank that says, you know, FDIC insured.
03:20:57 That means that if it has that logo, in theory your deposits are are covered up to $250,000. So guess what? What they're talking about is anyone who's just like some Normie.
03:21:11 If you just let it fail.
03:21:13 They'll be made whole.
03:21:15 I don't have 200. Do you have 1/4 of $1,000,000 in the bank? I don't have 1/4 of a million ******* dollars in the bank.
03:21:21 But if if you had just barely less than a, if you had $100,000 in the bank, you're gonna have $100,000 either way.
03:21:29 Cause the federal government will will insure it.
03:21:32 So no one small fry would be affected by this bank's failure. It's only going to be people who have over a quarter $1,000,000 in the bank account who weren't so rich that Peter Thiel and his friends.
03:21:48 Warned them to take their ******* money out.
03:21:50 You know what I mean?
03:21:51 It's these ******* flies, man.
03:21:53 With the weather changed.
03:21:55 The neighbors livestock is I got to figure out a way to.
03:22:00 It's so ******* annoying anyway.
03:22:02 I hate flies.
03:22:03 I hate them.
03:22:06 Uh anyway, I got sidetracked *******.
03:22:09 Flying flew like right by my face.
03:22:14 OK.
03:22:15 So they what they're?
03:22:16 This is what this is 2.
03:22:17 1008 all.
03:22:17 Over again like no one, no one.
03:22:21 That was that was small, would have been hurt by it.
03:22:24 It was all just big, big time rich people that would have been hurt by the the collapses that would have taken place.
03:22:30 So they just let it go.
03:22:31 Go on in 2008 and the same thing here, even if it if it look even if it is a contagion that spreads to other banks and whatever, it's not going, who cares.
03:22:43 It's not going to make anyone who's of even upper middle class or below you know anyone that's upper middle class and below.
03:22:52 Is going to be.
03:22:54 It's only going to affect the Super rich, really.
03:22:58 Which is why they probably will do it.
03:23:00 That's probably what they'll bail out.
03:23:02 The banks so that it doesn't affect the Super rich because.
03:23:05 Those are the only people that are actually represented by anyone in government, so that's.
03:23:14 That's my talk about the the the current.
03:23:18 Banking collapse, splitter trace games intentionally try to addict people to their games. Here's a short interview with Ubisoft's Dev, saying that Far Cry is basically a Skinner box.
Speaker 15
03:23:31 Alright, let me see what this says.Devon
03:23:44 It's relatively short.03:23:46 I think we can brace that, right.
03:23:48 Unless there's a read read more button I'm not seeing.
03:23:52 OK.
03:23:54 So this is uh.
03:23:57 What is this from?
03:24:01 There's a interview with or Patrick Forday about Far Cry 3.
03:24:07 Recently I had the opportunity to chat with Patrick, Florida creative director at Ubisoft, about his work on Far Cry 3, which is an amazingly fun game.
03:24:15 The fun of the game was the muse of my inquiring mind when talking with Patrick.
03:24:21 Being that I am an aspiring designer myself, I wanted to know what the Ubisoft Patrick Korday secret recipe for fun is.
03:24:28 In other words, what's under the hood of Far Cry 3?
03:24:32 Patrick was a pleasure to talk to.
03:24:34 He's very animated and not shy about spilling the beans on the Far cry three ingredients.
03:24:40 I asked him what were some of the challenges in creating the word world of Far Cry 3.
03:24:46 The question led to a funny story about how it was difficult to make two pirates patrolling a tropical beach.
03:24:54 At sunset not look romantic.
03:24:56 Not that there's anything wrong with the romantic beach pirates, but that just wasn't the vision for the game, he said, laughing.
03:25:02 Besides the humorous anecdotes from Far Cry 3 creative process, he revealed an eye opening and somewhat unsettling truth.
03:25:11 About the game I was pouring so much praise over and spending so much of my time playing, I asked what's making this game so fun.
03:25:20 Why is it so addictive?
03:25:22 Patrick responded. It's a Skinner box, referring to the famous psychologist BF Skinner's popular invention, the operant conditioning chamber, AKA A Skinner box.
03:25:34 The Skinner box is a closed environment in which a creature's behavior is observed while undergoing A variety of positive and negative reinforcements.
03:25:44 For a variety of actions, although the players are Far, Cry 3 are not being observed while playing.
03:25:49 They are being conditioned to expect certain results from a variety of actions at certain times.
03:25:55 The game becomes addictive when the expected result of an action doesn't happen, or when the players are surprised by the results of actions that they did not expect.
03:26:05 That's kind of what I was talking about with the casinos giving you, you know, you're trained to think, well, if I do X like if I go to work for two weeks, I get a paycheck.
03:26:15 If I go and bite into a Big Mac, I get the taste of a Big Mac in my mouth.
03:26:20 If I, you know, do something if I break, you know the law, I I can go to jail.
03:26:25 You have these expectations for when you should get reward and punishment.
03:26:29 And the reason why people get addicted to gambling is that.
03:26:32 Is it becomes A and it's it's random, you know you get unexpected results, so it ***** with your reward system because sometimes you get rewarded when you think you're going to get punished and sometimes you get punished when you think you're going to get rewarded.
03:26:47 And so it just becomes this really bizarre experience for your brain.
03:26:53 So it sounds as if he's doing the same or they they designed Far Cry 3, which I think they they they design every game like this every single one of these games that the big publishers put out.
03:27:06 Like I said, they all hire psychologists and and and like and and and you know people that that have studied human behavior to find out how to make the game more addictive.
03:27:22 And that's just, this is something that, like I said, casino started doing.
03:27:27 Way back when and video game companies are just following this in the footsteps.
03:27:34 So as players play through Far Cry 3, they develop behavioral schema and we'll play the game and a unique faction based on these seemingly random results for actions.
03:27:43 For example, the first time I perform an action, I'm rewarded.
03:27:46 I feel like a boss.
03:27:47 The next time I perform the same action, I am punished, but I managed to escape the situation, so I still feel like a boss.
03:27:54 And so the pattern goes with all the actions in the game in the conclusion or in conclusion.
03:28:00 I learned that any way you slice it, when you play Far Cry 3, you feel like a boss.
03:28:05 That's why it's fun and that's why it feels so addictive.
03:28:09 So there you go.
03:28:10 Yeah, this is.
03:28:11 This is how.
03:28:13 When you play a video game.
03:28:17 Don't be under any illusions that that you are just playing a game in the same way that you'd be playing, you know, solitaire or or, you know, a board game or something like that.
03:28:31 It's it's a game that's been that's using a lot of technology.
03:28:37 To tickle your brain and to maximize the probability that you will become addicted to it.
03:28:47 Gee, when I was 15, something happened to me every time I sat down to play a video game.
03:28:51 I felt the anxiety of wasting time.
03:28:54 I have seldom played a video game since.
03:28:56 Besides online chess with friends, no productivity with with insomnia stream or other streams and audio books I can listen while working out.
03:29:06 Yeah, it it, it's I.
03:29:08 That's why I can't play video games either.
03:29:10 There came a point where I am.
03:29:15 Part of honestly, I can't take credit for like being like, oh, I grew out of it.
03:29:19 Part of it was just a lot of my friends had families and they grew up at first, right?
Speaker 18
03:29:22 Right.Devon
03:29:24 And so fewer and fewer of my friends were in that team speak server until one day it was pretty much just me, and I felt like, you know, like it wasn't fun anymore because.03:29:34 I was I a lot of the draw for me was the social aspect of it, and I wasn't the kind of person that was going to make, like, video game friends, you know, and and all the people I play games with.
03:29:46 I knew in real life.
03:29:48 And so it just it did feel like I was just, it just felt masturbatory at at a certain point.
03:29:54 And but yeah, I still just audio books and streams and stuff like that.
03:29:59 You can anything you can like, especially if you do any kind of driving.
03:30:06 You know or any kind of manual labor, it's almost a waste of time if you don't.
03:30:13 It's almost a waste of time if you don't, although I will have to say.
03:30:16 There is value in silence.
03:30:20 You know, like if you like if.
Speaker 7
03:30:22 You've ever if.Devon
03:30:23 You've ever been on a a really long road trip and you try, you know, like anything.03:30:29 I'm talking like 8 hours or more, right.
03:30:31 You're on a long road trip and you're like, oh, this will this will breeze right by.
03:30:36 Because I'll listen to these podcasts and this audio book and whatever about 6 hours in usually.
03:30:43 You're just like, oh, **** it.
03:30:45 I'll just listen to the road for a while.
03:30:48 And I think it's useful to do that in your day-to-day life too, you know, and maybe even when you're working out or whatever.
03:30:56 But yeah, anytime.
03:30:58 But at the same time, like, you know, if if if like when I'm doing my night hikes, which I haven't been doing lately, but.
03:31:08 Once I get those kick the kick back in.
03:31:12 Yeah, I I would go insane if I was just out there, just not listening to anything because it's just I'm it's already it.
03:31:18 It's it's like a an opposite of stimuli at that point, so I'm already like in the dark in the.
03:31:22 Middle of nowhere, so yeah.
03:31:27 My fat little ******** toe.
03:31:30 It'll be my father's birthday in a few days. I figured having a comment that he is on my mind achieved in.
03:31:37 Wait. It'll be my father's birthday.
03:31:40 In a few days.
03:31:42 I have figured I figured having a comment that he is on my mind archived in an ADL and FBI database for all eternity will be.
03:31:51 A sub A.
03:31:52 Suitable gift for the guy who already has everything.
03:31:55 Happy early birthday, dad.
03:31:58 Well, there you go.
03:31:59 So is he is here fat big ******** toe because you know he's like.
03:32:07 All right, Veruca Salt, there is actually a real diagnosis being used for children to present a severely autistic or who present a severely autistic.
03:32:24 It's called virtual autism.
03:32:26 When the child addiction to screen time is broken, they stop behaving and appearing autistic.
03:32:33 I'm sure Uncle Ted warned us about this.
03:32:35 Well, yeah, absolutely.
03:32:37 I I you know, it's one of those things that I struggle with in terms of of trying to wrap your head around.
03:32:44 How much access children should have technology?
03:32:48 You know, part of my brain wants to just say **** it and and almost entirely deprived them of technology.
03:32:57 But part of me doesn't want them to be.
03:33:00 Incapable of navigating a world filled with technology and it's weird to think that when I was much younger I had a completely different view.
03:33:11 I was of the mind that ohh I'm going to have the nerdiest kids ever.
03:33:14 I they're going to be so lucky because I'm so immersed in technology.
03:33:20 That I'm going to raise them with like the bleeding edge technology, and I'm gonna be smart enough to, you know, to to show them how it all works.
03:33:28 I'm gonna get them programming at a really early age and all this other.
03:33:31 Stuff and and now you know.
03:33:32 Honestly, part of it, even the usefulness of that is almost going away with AI and everything.
03:33:38 It's like learning to code, just seems like maybe not even a good good job.
03:33:46 You know, like opportunity, if it's all going to be replaced by AI.
03:33:51 Engines that produce code for you, unless you're like turbo autistic for reals and you're and you want to write in machine language like you want to be the one writing the AI, you know what I mean?
03:34:03 It's like.
03:34:05 I don't know how, maybe I don't know.
03:34:07 Maybe maybe.
03:34:07 Learning about technology isn't even all that necessary anymore.
03:34:10 They're making it so, so stupid proof, but.
03:34:14 Yeah, it's, I I guarantee you if you were just to get rid of social media, it imagine what kind of behavioral changes you would see in American women if just TikTok Instagram.
03:34:30 You know the the.
03:34:32 Actually, just let's be real specific.
03:34:34 Let's be real targeted.
03:34:35 If all American women were suddenly deprived of an online uh.
03:34:43 Network of any kind that allowed them to share selfies.
03:34:51 Like that, if that's all you've changed.
03:34:53 His women were suddenly unable in any way to electronically share selfies.
03:35:01 How do you think that would?
03:35:02 Change the behavior of women.
03:35:04 And how quickly would that change take place?
03:35:08 And what would that change look like?
03:35:10 Everyone listening, even you.
03:35:11 Women that share selfies on it, you know that that would be a dramatic dramatic attitude adjustment.
03:35:17 Tennis nuts.
03:35:18 I agree with harmless about the video games and even movies.
03:35:21 They seem like a time suck, and I felt drained just starting or starting one up after so many of.
03:35:29 Yeah, yeah.
03:35:30 Movies too.
03:35:31 I would say I have a much harder time enjoying films and I used to really like movies that used.
03:35:36 That was the.
03:35:38 That was my dream job, right?
03:35:39 I was going to I.
03:35:40 Was going to write and direct movies, and now it's really difficult for me to justify.
03:35:48 Unless I'm doing it for this, you know for the stream, that's honestly that's pretty much the context in which I watch Movies Now, as if it's it's for the stream.
03:35:58 There's not many movies that I I feel like, oh, I'm.
03:36:01 I can't.
Speaker 7
03:36:01 Wait to see this.Devon
03:36:05 And video games, you know, same thing.03:36:08 I mean, there's video games for nostalgia purposes, you know, like I I I think, you know, I told you guys I built like a a main machine that plays like all the old arcade.
03:36:18 I mean it just sits there.
03:36:20 I mean, I think Churro sleeps on it now, like it's like his little, it's like a massive.
03:36:25 Bad for him.
03:36:26 I don't I I don't even know if it works right now, because I don't think the the.
03:36:31 Joysticks are even hooked up, or like.
03:36:32 But there was a time I liked for the nostalgia purposes.
03:36:36 Playing these old video games.
03:36:37 But even when I did that, it was it was, you know, it was like I'd play Robotron like I told you guys, Robotron is the perfect game.
03:36:44 It's the perfect game because it's it's the opposite of EverQuest.
03:36:47 It's like not even like it.
03:36:49 OK, sure, it never ends, but it it.
03:36:52 And actually, let me rephrase that.
03:36:54 It ends really fast because it's so hard, but technically I guess it never ends it just if you're like this kind of robot, but.
Speaker 13
03:37:07 But yeah, I.Devon
03:37:08 Just can't.03:37:08 Even those games.
03:37:09 It's like it's just there's so many IRL things that I would I would much rather be doing.
03:37:15 Or that. Yeah, I maybe.
03:37:17 Even if I wouldn't rather be doing is, I just have too many responsibilities now.
03:37:23 Harmless G What I know about the creator of Minecraft is he sold the game to Microsoft for a few billion dollars.
03:37:31 Said a few base things and then faded away into obscurity.
03:37:34 Became an erect bless.
03:37:36 Yeah, no, that guy.
03:37:38 Oh, what was his ******* name on Twitter?
03:37:41 I I know you're talking about and.
03:37:43 Yeah, it ****** me off because that's exactly the kind of person that has the money to bankroll that that has the the money to be our institute or, you know, one of our institutional donors and and and look, maybe he's he's doing that in some kind of secret way that I don't know about.
03:38:00 But uh, I doubt it.
03:38:02 Honestly, I doubt it.
03:38:03 I think that a lot of people uh, uh, that that.
03:38:08 I think that if you're really ideological.
03:38:12 On the right that you don't spend your life making tons of money, you spend yourself, spend your life pursuing the ideology and.
03:38:26 Which isn't very profitable and and so it's the people that have the money or the established.
03:38:33 Right.
03:38:34 And who are basically, at this point, indistinguishable from the left and people like this guy who have the means.
03:38:42 I mean like that guy could.
03:38:44 You're right.
03:38:45 I don't remember how much money it was like it was like 4 billion.
03:38:47 It was like, you know, it was an amount of money that you're never he's never going to run out of money, right.
03:38:52 He's never going to run out of money.
03:38:53 And he could set it up to where his his kids would never notch that was his name on on, on Twitter.
03:39:02 His, his.
03:39:04 His kids would.
03:39:04 Never run out of money, right?
03:39:07 But yeah, from what I understand, he's just, you know, this drug addicted recluse now.
03:39:13 And look, notch, if you're listening throw throw me some throw me some of that ******* Microsoft money that Bill Gates vacs money.
03:39:22 I'm I'm I'm working here.
03:39:24 You know, some of us can't.
03:39:26 Some of us aren't just independently wealthy and can just.
03:39:29 ******* do drugs and play video games all day.
03:39:31 You ******* degenerate.
03:39:35 The vexed.
03:39:37 In shooters I used to play, I had friends that always picked female characters.
03:39:41 Even in Halo I could never wrap my head around it.
03:39:46 Yeah, that was all that was always a weird, creepy thing.
03:39:49 Although I will to be perfectly honest there, there was when I there was a there was a a time when I was playing on real that I experimented with like, how that sounded.
03:40:00 I experimented with using a a female skin because it was smaller.
03:40:05 I didn't know.
03:40:05 I thought the hit box might might shrink, you know, cause the model of the person I was just trying to maximize my.
Speaker
03:40:11 OK.Devon
03:40:12 My ability to play the game and I was like, oh, well, the girl character is skinnier and smaller target, but I after a while playing that I.03:40:19 Figured that the.
03:40:21 The hit box was probably exactly the same size, no matter what the character looked.
03:40:25 Like, but yeah, there was.
03:40:26 That was always weird.
03:40:27 Like when you play video games and you had the friend.
03:40:30 It's all it.
03:40:31 You know what it's like the friend.
03:40:32 That always, no matter what for Halloween, they're always a girl.
03:40:35 But it's totally a.
03:40:35 Joke, right?
03:40:37 Look, isn't it funny?
03:40:38 I'm a nun and you're like, I guess it's funny.
03:40:41 And like the next Halloween, the Hood's funny because, like, I'm.
03:40:44 Like a cheerleader?
03:40:45 And you're like uh.
03:40:48 Like Steven Crowder, basically right.
03:40:52 He's, he's that guy.
03:40:55 Johnny Anon, playing Diablo 2 right now as you stream this Devin Cope and seed PC master race reporting for duty.
03:41:03 I will never support you again after this video.
03:41:05 In all seriousness though, I'm laughing my ******* *** off.
03:41:09 Cheers, mate.
03:41:10 Get the book out already.
03:41:12 Need some total pedo kite death in my life.
03:41:16 Diablo 2 how long ago?
03:41:18 That ******* come out.
03:41:20 My brother was really into that game and I never could get into it because again, I was like, I can't handle like.
03:41:25 The The Magic wizard sword, you know.
03:41:29 When did that come out?
03:41:30 I feel like that came out like in the ******* 90s.
03:41:32 Like whenever Quest came out.
03:41:35 Yeah, it literally came out like, well, it came out in 2000. It came out basically whenever Quest came out.
03:41:40 How are you still ******* playing that game?
03:41:46 We you realize Mr.
03:41:49 Johnny Anon?
03:41:51 That there's no possible way you don't know.
03:41:53 It's like watching you're you're basically doing the video game equivalent of those people that watch Star Wars over and over and over again.
03:42:03 I'm just saying, you know, hard, hard to deny that right. Like that game is 23 years old. There's no possible way. You don't know how that.
03:42:12 And if you don't know how it.
03:42:13 Ends by now.
03:42:14 You're never going to.
03:42:18 Ohh man. Alrighty.
03:42:21 ******** ****** for $1.00?
Speaker 9
03:42:24 Do you have that much money in your bank at home?Speaker 15
03:42:29 I'd buy that for a dollar.Devon
03:42:36 Do you think the lack of morals and capital can be seen with EA and Star Wars Battlefront 2 and the backlash it got?03:42:45 PS I think that's why feminism creeped its way to gaming, despite gamers repeatedly telling people like and Anita Sarkeesian to wait.
03:42:56 Hold on.
03:42:57 Do you think the lack of morals in capital can be seen with EA and Star Wars Battlefront 2 and the backlash you've got?
03:43:05 I don't.
03:43:05 I don't know what you're referring to there.
03:43:06 I know, I know.
03:43:07 The game.
03:43:08 In fact, I'm pretty sure I used to play that game.
03:43:10 I don't unless I played.
03:43:12 A different one.
03:43:13 I played one of the battlefront ones.
03:43:16 But I don't remember it backlash I got.
03:43:22 I'm going to look that up actually.
03:43:25 Yay out front, 2 backlash.
03:43:30 What was the backlash?
03:43:43 OK.
03:43:43 OK.
03:43:44 Microtransactions is that what it was?
03:43:47 It was about microtransactions.
03:43:51 OK, Star Wars Battlefront 2 game versus OK, this is from a 2017 article.
03:43:59 Maybe I didn't play this game.
03:44:02 This doesn't look that familiar.
03:44:06 The number required.
03:44:08 Alright, let's see here.
03:44:13 Yay, faced further criticism over its latest Star Wars game, Battlefront 2.
03:44:17 Many players were unhappy about the credits that unlock key Star Wars characters.
03:44:22 The number required has now been reduced, but so has the number that can be earned through gameplay.
03:44:28 The alternative is to purchase them.
03:44:30 Others have complained about the use of loot crates.
03:44:32 Which some say are essentially A gambling tool.
03:44:36 The crates are.
03:44:37 I mean, I don't know.
03:44:38 I I don't know enough specifically, but I would say look, if.
03:44:42 An extension it's.
03:44:44 It's capitalism when you when when, when you don't have any kind of.
03:44:53 Moral constraints on the people that are practicing capitalism.
03:44:58 Capitalism's only motive, then, is to maximize profits, and if they do, some kind of study that concludes that microtransactions is going to melt out more money.
03:45:11 Because look, I I don't know why they wouldn't include that, considering it's like all the.
03:45:15 I remember when the App Store in the Apple App Store.
03:45:19 When I first got my iPhone, most apps for like 2 bucks and then that was it, right?
03:45:25 And so I bought a couple apps or whatever.
03:45:30 I I I usually don't get apps now that anymore because it just it seems like well, it seems like there's I don't really have A use for most of the apps that they have, but I've recently been in the App Store and looked at at some of the apps and almost none of them are.
03:45:47 You can't.
03:45:48 Most of you can't just buy anymore.
03:45:50 You you you can get them for free, but then there's in app purchases and you have to unlock or subscriptions, right?
03:45:57 Like everything subscription based, everything is is microtransactions every.
03:46:01 So it it.
03:46:02 It's all that stuff.
03:46:03 None of that's because it's better for the customer.
03:46:06 None of that is.
03:46:08 Why would that or or like you know, Adobe software switching to a subscription model or BMW making their heated seats in the car that you bought a subscription service?
03:46:22 That's just that's what that's that's capitalism.
03:46:24 That's people at the top that have no.
03:46:27 Moral reason to not.
03:46:29 In fact, they're the sucker if they.
03:46:31 Don't do it.
03:46:35 In in the context of of the modern West.
03:46:39 You're a sucker if you don't do it, and in fact, you if you're a CEO, that's exactly how you'll justify it.
03:46:46 You will say, well, it's my duty to the shareholders to do this.
03:46:51 If I don't do this, I am not being a good CEO.
03:46:57 And and look, we can argue about that.
03:46:59 But one thing for sure, he probably won't be this.
03:47:02 Whether it's good or not, he probably won't be the CEO if he's not maximizing profits because they'll just get someone that will.
03:47:10 But yeah, all this stuff is all this is is directly related to what we've been talking about tonight.
03:47:19 Alright hammer of Thorazine.
Speaker 14
03:47:22 Cash flow checkout.Speaker 20
03:47:30 I'd like to return this duck.Devon
03:47:32 The dopamine rush in games is why they added achievements and not just a regular game with levels your gamer score total of those wait your gamer score.03:47:44 I know that is in quotes.
03:47:46 Total of those is another competition by itself.
03:47:49 Now you have battle Royale Hunter player free for all, which are all meant to trigger the thrill of gambling.
03:47:56 Ban all gambling.
03:47:57 Like I said it's it's it's, you know, there was a point in time where we had Americans that were willing to ban pinball machines.
03:48:05 And if pinball machines were a blight on society, I mean, imagine the, I mean, just compare how addictive pinball machines are to literally any video game.
03:48:20 But you're right, it is basically a lot of that's, it's just it's just an A form of game, but it's a time of anything else.
03:48:26 It's a time waster when when you're at your peak.
03:48:31 In in productivity as a man.
03:48:34 It's it's literally designed to waste away your most productive years.
03:48:47 And pay a subscription fee for the pleasure of doing it.
03:48:51 Polar bear odyssey when you're working on your yard, check out this episode of Wendover Production on gambling in Australia.
03:48:59 80% of adults gamble every year the average Australian spends wow. Holy ****, really.
03:49:06 The average Australian spends 17.
03:49:10 No, that that's got.
03:49:11 Really, $1700 a year on slots?
03:49:17 A nation of addicts that.
03:49:21 Hold on.
03:49:21 I'm gonna.
03:49:22 I'm gonna look this up.
03:49:23 That sounds a little bit bizarre.
03:49:25 I I mean, I.
03:49:28 Maybe you're right.
03:49:34 Gambling Australia.
03:49:39 But how much of that is because Australia is basically Asia now, because Asians.
03:49:42 Love, you know.
03:49:46 This is April 1st, 2022.
03:50:02 You know, I I they don't have the statistic statistic you're talking about here, but.
03:50:07 The fact that 40% of adults in Australia participate in the lottery or scratch cards, that's.
03:50:17 That's pretty crazy high.
03:50:21 I don't know what the percentage in America is, but I doubt it's 40%.
03:50:26 I mean, well, occasionally you get like that.
Speaker 7
03:50:28 Ohh Powerball is worth.Devon
03:50:29 $100 billion. So everyone's gonna buy a ******* ticket because it it's almost impossible to win.03:50:44 Number of casinos.
03:50:47 Yeah, I I don't see that specific.
03:50:50 I mean, I don't.
03:50:50 Doubt it I.
03:50:52 That's pretty ******* insane, though, if that's if that's legit.
03:50:57 Joy Boy, 1488, went to church or went to a church event called Biblical Citizenship in Modern America with my brothers and Dad. As I suspected, it was a bunch of white boomers saying we need to vote hard.
03:51:12 It was so bad we walked out halfway through.
03:51:15 I feel a little bad because it was the White Church unity we need so badly thoughts.
03:51:22 I I mean, I don't know.
03:51:24 Was there an opportunity for you to explain why I, you know, before you did, you just quietly sneak out the back or was there?
03:51:32 I don't know.
03:51:33 What the context was, if there was some way you could have discussion.
03:51:37 I you know, I've.
03:51:41 This goes back to what we talked about earlier with with persuasion and and not necessarily throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
03:51:50 When it comes to glue that holds white people together like Christianity.
03:51:54 Maybe there's maybe there's a way.
03:51:56 Look, look, I'll tell you where.
03:51:58 I where I live.
03:52:00 There's a lot of white Christian boomers just cause.
03:52:03 It's just like, you know, kind of like in Florida, White Christian boomers like to go to the desert because they I think they just hate being cold or something.
03:52:15 A lot of them don't stay here in the summer, but a lot of them like, you know, come here from like Washington state or or, you know, somewhere cold.
03:52:24 And so I I have a lot of conversations with these people in, in real life.
03:52:29 And I I don't go.
03:52:32 I don't go ham with them.
03:52:34 Because I would much rather plant little seeds.
03:52:39 You know, pepper and little seeds.
03:52:42 Like I'll.
03:52:43 I'll I I like to.
03:52:44 Be someone who?
03:52:46 Who shifts their Overton window a little bit?
03:52:49 You know, if they start talking about.
03:52:51 Ohh yeah, like the woke schools or something like that.
03:52:55 You know you start.
03:52:56 Oh, yeah.
03:52:56 Well, you know.
03:52:58 The Frankfurt School and I just you, just slowly, slowly nudge them in a direction and that's really all you can do with some of these people.
03:53:09 But man, maybe there was an, I don't know.
03:53:11 I don't know the maybe it was totally appropriate, depending on how you know.
03:53:19 In, you know, embedded their beliefs were.
03:53:22 But you know there's some people you can just tell, right?
03:53:24 You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
03:53:26 There's just no there's no.
03:53:28 There's no reaching some people, or at least not.
03:53:30 You're not the one that can reach them, you know.
03:53:32 And so sometimes it's not worth it.
03:53:35 So maybe it's hard to know without being there, but.
03:53:40 Yeah, I'll tell you what.
03:53:41 If that was a bad place to me.
03:53:43 Up the on the bright side, first of all, you got your brothers and your dad.
03:53:47 Some people don't even have that, myself included.
03:53:50 I don't have well, first of all, just geographically that would be impossible.
03:53:57 But even if we all lived in the same town, I doubt very much that my my brothers and my dad would would join me in in a any kind of event that was going to be explicitly pro white.
03:54:09 I mean, I don't know.
03:54:09 That's what you guys did.
03:54:11 But you know, at least you got your brothers and your dad's blood is thicker than.
03:54:16 Water Ali Mir Devin.
03:54:19 I thought you were leaning up to a *** story where you.
03:54:22 Blew all the.
03:54:23 Hyper chat dough on the machines at his letter.
03:54:26 Just kidding.
03:54:27 But what do you think of my theory that the machines pay out differently based on the player card inserted in them?
03:54:40 Oh you oh.
03:54:40 You mean like at A at a slot machine?
03:54:43 When you put the little gay credit card thing in them?
03:54:49 I don't know.
03:54:50 I I I guarantee you I.
03:54:52 Mean look, they.
03:54:53 Supposedly they they audit the the the slot machines or whatever.
03:54:57 But I guarantee you they they've been, you know, they've been caught with doing shenanigans before, and I guarantee there's shenanigans going on.
03:55:05 If you're a casino.
03:55:06 You're trying to maximize profits just like everyone else.
03:55:10 We've talked about this evening, only on top of that, you're probably there's.
03:55:14 Well, just like a lot of these other companies, I guess there's a Jewish oligarch at the top, you know, whether it's Steve.
03:55:19 Wynn or that, that, that, that ******* Jew that basically bankrolled most of.
03:55:27 Trump's Sheldon Adelson.
03:55:32 You know that guy was a casino Jew.
03:55:33 A lot of these Indian casinos, maybe Isleta included that are really run by casino Jews.
03:55:42 You know the the Indians collect the check, but a lot of it is is, you know, owned it well.
03:55:49 I don't know.
03:55:49 But owned but like.
03:55:51 Released on paper, probably not owned, but.
03:55:54 Essentially run by by the same casino Jews that run.
03:55:58 That run Vegas.
03:56:00 So I wouldn't be surprised.
03:56:01 It's just better.
03:56:02 Look, I think slot machines are just, it's just if you're going to gamble that's that's like the last thing I would.
03:56:09 I would do that it just it's anything about it's like like the electronic voting.
03:56:14 I trust electronic gambling as much as I trust.
03:56:16 Electronic voting let me just put that.
03:56:19 Uh, the post infantry life?
03:56:21 Apparently I'm ******** and wasn't able to send that in a one question, but did you see Tim Poole had that child murdering *** Damien Echols on his show pretending he was innocent?
03:56:32 Did he?
03:56:34 Ohh Wow, did he really.
03:56:36 When was this?
03:56:38 Wow, hold on.
03:56:39 Hold on.
03:56:40 The temporal really have Damien Echols on.
03:56:43 Holy ****.
03:56:45 Well, it would make sense, right?
03:56:46 Isn't Tim Poole a a libertarian satanist?
03:56:57 When was this?
03:57:05 Uh, there's.
03:57:11 Holy ****, he did.
03:57:15 Two days ago.
03:57:17 What a ******* ******.
03:57:32 Wow. Well, good job.
03:57:36 Good job, Tim.
03:57:43 There's some base comments, a few of them.
03:57:47 Someone says I love how he starts off saying they tried to say it was a ritual sacrifice and ends with, by the way, go check out my Patreon where.
03:57:54 I do ceremonial magic.
03:57:57 Another one says you're interviewing some random murderer instead of instead of my daily uploads, I scheduled my day around.
03:58:08 Uh. Let's see here.
03:58:12 One look at his YouTube channel and he's teaching all this magic ****.
03:58:15 Yeah, I'm sure he totally wasn't doing satanic rituals.
03:58:20 Ohh man another.
03:58:21 One, he's guilty.
03:58:22 Read the court transcripts.
03:58:27 Yeah. And then, yeah.
03:58:29 That's insane.
03:58:32 Well, good job, Tim Poole.
03:58:35 Tim Poole has just solidified his position as look and when I say libertarians are basically Satanists that don't believe in the devil.
03:58:44 There you go.
03:58:46 There you go.
03:58:50 Way way to uh to platform.
03:58:55 Wow, that's that's that's horrendous.
03:59:04 I think he's gone through and pruned some of the comments.
03:59:11 There's a lot of people saying, yeah, the.
03:59:12 Cops are evil.
03:59:21 Well, there you go.
03:59:25 There you go.
03:59:26 I'm not I'm.
03:59:27 I'm a little surprised.
03:59:29 But I'm also not surprised at all.
03:59:33 Not surprised at all.
03:59:37 Ah *******.
03:59:41 Don't I have like some kind of Tim Poole video somewhere?
03:59:46 I don't know.
03:59:47 Hitler *****. That works.
03:59:54 Ah, alright, well there you go.
04:00:03 Alright, I've recommended.
04:00:07 I know that depresses me a little bit.
04:00:09 Some reason like I thought he would just go into obscurity and then now he's he's on a platform like that.
04:00:17 Good job.
04:00:17 Good job, Tim.
04:00:20 Yeah, let's let's have a a literal satanic child murderer. Ron. God *******. What a ******* ******** ******* *******. I ******* hate him so much. Tim Poole's everything that's wrong with.
04:00:33 The world right now.
04:00:37 Hey, Ben.
04:00:37 I missed the early Internet.
04:00:39 It was such a wonderful time.
04:00:40 Free speech, no censorship.
04:00:42 Internet nowadays is so sanitized, censored, full of ******* who get their feelings hurt when people type and mean words where you get doxed and fired for ****.
04:00:51 You say online?
04:00:52 Yeah, you know what?
04:00:53 The bottom line is?
Speaker 7
04:00:54 The really.Devon
04:00:55 The only thing if you were there for the old Internet, the one thing you learned that that would get so many people.04:01:03 Uh, they keep sending people out of trouble today that sometimes get into trouble is just the simple line.
04:01:09 Don't feed the trolls, as is a former troll on the Internet.
04:01:14 Back in the older Internet days I can I can assure you that the only reason we did it was to get the reactions that we got.
04:01:22 And if we didn't get those reactions in the same way.
04:01:24 That's why you tease your little sister by the.
04:01:26 Way if you.
04:01:27 Didn't get those reactions?
04:01:28 You wouldn't ******* do it.
04:01:30 But yes, now the Internet is full of these people, which is why they've had to legislate and ban so, so much of it away cause rather than look at themselves and ask why they're such a ***** who are incapable of controlling their emotions.
04:01:44 They have put the blame.
04:01:47 At the feet of the trolls. Harmless. Gee, there are some people who analyze demographics, who believe that since fertility rates are dropping worldwide, the demographic end game in the 22nd and 23rd century.
04:02:01 Will be conservative white Christian groups that resist the the paws and Orthodox Jews.
04:02:08 Either way, having lots of white babies is impaired.
04:02:11 Yeah, I I hear that a lot people saying, well, you know the left, they're not having babies and you know, of course, you know, the trans kids aren't going to be fertile, they're not going to be able to have babies.
04:02:19 And, you know, Faggs aren't having babies and.
04:02:21 And first of all, you know, to some degree, you're right.
04:02:25 There's going to be a little.
04:02:26 Bit of that.
04:02:27 But a lot of right wing people aren't having babies either.
04:02:30 Just a lot of, you know, white people in general aren't having babies.
04:02:33 And look, I I in fact, I posted this on GAB.
04:02:40 What like yesterday?
04:02:46 But stuff like this is going to going to throw a wrench and where did, where did it save to you?
04:02:54 Let's see.
04:02:54 Oh, there it is.
04:02:56 Yeah, technology like this is is going to.
04:03:00 Change some of this a little bit.
04:03:03 For those of you just listening, scientists create mice with two fathers after making eggs from male cells, creation of mammal with two biological fathers could pave way for new quote, UN quote, fertility treatments in humans. So the technology, this technology.
04:03:22 Along with the you know the I mean the the monstrosities that they're going to come up with.
04:03:31 In the name of of fertility treatments.
04:03:34 In in coming years just.
04:03:37 Strap in.
04:03:38 It's gonna be a.
04:03:39 It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
04:03:43 Because basically what they're what that what this means is you're gonna have ******** and faggs having babies with each other.
04:03:49 And you think there's you think there's spiteful mutants now?
04:03:57 Wait until you make a a a demon like a literal demon baby.
04:04:03 Out of two **** that that that's coming and in fact.
04:04:09 I would I would not be surprised.
04:04:11 Just if, if because.
04:04:13 Look, you know as well as I do that the kinds of of human trials for different technologies that they that they would, that people would sometimes find distasteful.
04:04:29 They're still taking place.
04:04:31 They're just not telling you about it.
04:04:33 I would be very surprised if there does not exist already abomination, *** babies in some form or another.
04:04:45 Andromeda, another great show.
04:04:48 Thank you, Devin.
04:04:48 We'll appreciate that.
04:04:51 Alef, the nemesis, wasted 18 months playing World of Warcraft from age 21 to 22. Landscape work at 7:00 AM got home playing till dinner.
04:05:02 Eat play until 2:00 AM most nights. Start November and only went out for Mardi Gras and then 4:20 to see IRL.
04:05:10 Friends actually found it difficult to speak to people IRL at the time.
04:05:15 It did lead to some red pills though.
04:05:19 Yeah, I mean, look, you're going to be.
04:05:22 Especially in in back in the day.
04:05:25 All the people I played with are right, you know, even today they're right leaning white guys.
04:05:32 Sadly, most of them are are are in the libertarian camp.
04:05:38 And still think that Jews are funny and quirky, but you know.
04:05:43 It is what it is.
04:05:46 It is a waste of time.
04:05:47 It is sad.
04:05:48 Like I, you know, it's it's the same thing.
04:05:50 If you ever think back to like, you know, if I'm glad I don't have.
04:05:55 A. A tally.
04:05:58 Of how much money I spent at bars my lifetime.
04:06:02 I'm glad I don't know that number.
04:06:05 You know, bars and clubs and you know, stuff just degenerate.
04:06:08 I'm glad I don't have, like, a, a a final degeneracy bill that I can look at and know that, like, oh, that could have been a house.
04:06:18 Church of Murata.
04:06:20 If you like heist movies, check out 999 the villains in the film are Jewish, Mafia and the and.
04:06:28 And the people they use.
04:06:32 And the and the people they use.
04:06:36 Wait, the villains in the film are a Jewish are a Jewish mafia and the people they use and then just cuts off, I don't know.
04:06:45 You meant there there'd be more there, but I haven't seen that movie, so I don't know.
04:06:50 I I'm surprised that if if there's a movie that makes Jews look bad, though, maybe there is.
04:06:56 I I'd be I'd be a little surprised, I'm sure, if any.
04:07:00 Look, it's probably like how when they would depict the Italian mafia, it's.
04:07:04 Like, yeah, they.
04:07:05 Do bad things, but they're kind of cool.
04:07:06 Like, you know, like how many mafia movies make do?
04:07:10 You walk away from the theater thinking that, wow, the Mafia really was bad for America.
04:07:15 No, it's it's most men walk away from Mafia movies thinking like, how ******.
04:07:19 The mafia is.
04:07:21 And because that's the way that they they always frame.
04:07:24 It so I.
04:07:24 Suspect having not seen this movie at all, or even know what movie you're talking about that, that, that kind of framing takes place.
04:07:32 But who knows?
04:07:34 Harmless Gee, there is recent data that suggests that if you exclude first and second generation immigrants.
04:07:41 From Latin America and Africa, Hispanic and black fertility in America may have recently dropped below that of.
04:07:48 Rights if and only if immigration stopped, the white percentage could see a turnaround make as many white babies as possible anyway.
04:08:00 On a related note, here is a graph showing the number of babies born to people by age group and race in Canada.
Speaker
04:08:13 That can look here.Devon
04:08:34 Canada 2022 children by ethno.04:08:38 Cultural group, ethnicity and language.
04:08:40 Caucasians 3 Lang groups, Anglo Franco and other six major groupings, blah blah blah.
04:08:51 So indigenous, what is this?
04:08:54 Children ever born by age?
04:08:58 So under 30.
04:09:00 The only people having kids are indigenous.
04:09:04 Where is.
04:09:05 Caucasian, anglophone with anglophone.
04:09:09 Alright, anglophone is the this solid line right here.
04:09:15 So that's going up, I guess as you get older.
04:09:19 So all this says really to me is that most people aren't having kids at all.
04:09:25 Until they're 30 at least, and then maybe, maybe they have 1 E Asians especially they seem to be really not having kids until they're at least 30.
04:09:36 Or no.
04:09:37 Who's this guy?
04:09:38 Latin American, huh?
04:09:40 That's odd.
04:09:40 I wouldn't have expected that.
04:09:42 I would expected that Mexicans to be popping out kids early.
04:09:47 UM, what's this other Caucasian?
04:09:51 So it looks like most people aren't having kids until 30s.
04:09:56 So and and that at most, they're maybe having to.
04:10:01 Yeah, I mean that checks out from what I've.
04:10:05 Well, well, I think that's probably the current reality in America too.
04:10:10 But I'm surprised that, at least in this graph, it's showing that most ethnicities are are tracking about the same.
04:10:20 All right.
04:10:28 Teja, go to the site character dot AI and there you have it.
04:10:33 You can create AI characters based on historical characters.
04:10:37 Create a room and let them talk to each other.
04:10:40 Alright, well, that's something.
04:10:41 I'll I'll check out.
04:10:43 Maybe we can make Hitler talk to Ronald Reagan.
04:10:48 And see what happens.
04:10:51 Church of Miranda the show Tim Poole interviewed Damon Eckles is called Culture War Time's into funding cultural stunts like hosting drag shows, but for adults only.
04:11:03 Well, I'm not surprised by that.
04:11:05 To own the libs and by and platforming satanic child murderers, it's great for the culture.
04:11:11 Apparently, libertarians are an open wound on our nation.
04:11:14 Yeah, they're an open ******, wound on our nation.
04:11:18 And Tim Poole is you know is extra cancerous because he is a man without a people, a man without a nation and doesn't want you to have one because he doesn't have one.
04:11:35 I used to.
04:11:36 Play World of Warcraft.
04:11:37 I quit 10 years ago when I started working as a web developer and I wanted to become good at it.
04:11:43 The funny thing is that a friend from Warcraft got my first job at the place he worked.
04:11:51 Yeah, like there was a time when it was all.
04:11:55 Other white people every no matter what game you play, just like if you were on the Internet, you were just interacting with other white people of a similar socioeconomic background, right?
04:12:05 It was pretty much Bros on the Internet.
04:12:09 And so whether or not you met them on a forum or through a video game, most likely the people that you would interact with online, where people you'd have in common with and you could network with, that's when the Internet.
04:12:23 So it wasn't all bad.
04:12:25 You know, I'm not saying it was all bad, and there is some.
04:12:27 Look, I even have a little bit of nostalgia for that era.
04:12:29 You know the era of of land parties, the era of, of playing, you know, overnighters, when it was more of a social thing with, you know, people that I knew in real life and all that stuff but.
04:12:42 That's not the point.
04:12:43 I don't think that I don't.
04:12:43 I I I hope people realize.
04:12:45 That that's not the point.
04:12:46 The point is you don't want to waste your most productive years spinning your wheels and and and getting dopamine released every time there's a little Ding sound in a in a flashy animation flies by the screen.
04:13:04 Glock 23 tattoos are a worldwide epidemic now and then recent years tattoos are ugly degenerate and low class.
04:13:13 Natural skin is beautiful. Tattoos display a person's class and IQ level. Tattoos are just another sign of the dark times we're living in.
04:13:22 Yeah, I mean, I.
04:13:23 I instantly think less of people who are, who are really tatted up.
04:13:29 Well, I don't know if I think less.
04:13:30 I think the one I said, like I said earlier, I think that they've probably.
04:13:36 They've probably there's probably something going on there.
04:13:40 There's probably either, uh, major abuse or addiction in their past.
04:13:47 If they're real, I'm trying.
04:13:49 I'm not like if you have a tattoo, but if you're like, really tatted up.
04:13:53 That's usually the case.
04:13:58 The Church of Morata.
04:14:00 Your nickel and dimer me, but I'll give you a.
04:14:05 I work you here.
04:14:19 And we might have a.
04:14:19 Little connection problem.
04:14:20 I just saw the.
04:14:24 The number dropped down to like 0, but I think we're probably back.
04:14:29 Because it's in the green again.
04:14:31 And it's not saying drop the connection, so I'll keep an eye on the preview window and see if that Wookie pops up or if it's just looping.
04:14:38 Let me go to regular chat and see if you guys are saying it's looping.
04:14:44 Well, once someone one person is saying is looping.
04:14:51 Well, you know, I got to do.
04:14:52 I got to change.
04:14:53 This on the screen.
04:14:54 That's the only way to do it.
04:14:56 For me to see with the volume turned down.
04:15:01 No, the the Wookie came up.
04:15:04 Oh, but it is looping.
04:15:06 Let me hit refresh.
04:15:07 Maybe it came back.
04:15:17 I'm waiting to see if people are saying that we're good now.
04:15:28 Yeah, I wouldn't.
04:15:29 Well, I wouldn't want the connection problem, but what makes it bad is just that there's no way for me to know when it's back.
04:15:34 That's the thing that sucks the most.
04:15:39 All you are going to do while we're waiting.
04:15:41 Here. Oh, we know.
04:15:42 It it, it popped up.
04:15:44 We're good.
04:15:44 Mind, I was going to show.
04:15:45 You the most boomer picture ever.
04:15:48 Which maybe I'll show you if I.
04:15:49 Remember, before we're done here.
04:15:56 Where were we at?
04:16:04 There we go.
04:16:06 Church of Morata, our own people sold us out for shekels.
04:16:10 I don't think an ethno state is a solution, nor is Christianity as we see in Rwanda, which is completely Christian.
04:16:18 Being Christian or not being white is not enough, and being Christian is not enough, but the combination of the two.
04:16:24 That is the way.
04:16:26 Well, like I I've, I've.
04:16:27 Said since I've been streaming that you, you need, you know, you can't just have the just like with with.
04:16:35 All these other high in Group preference groups, including our arch, our arch nemesis, right. It's it's not enough to just have that ethnic bond you have to also have a religious bond. So I I I 100% agree with that.
04:16:51 Harmless Gee in Latin America, high fertility ethnic German Mennonite communities are springing up all over El Salvador.
04:17:00 Decreased the OR decreased the murder rate to lower than that of America and ex Pat white guys are leveraging the high status of being white to bleach the gene pool.
04:17:10 Perhaps we shouldn't write off Latin America.
04:17:13 Look, I mean, there's people that have been saying that the West is ****** and it's time to go to a third world country.
04:17:19 I think Coach Red Pill, you know, Gonzalo Lira basically was saying, look, the reason why it makes more.
04:17:25 Sense at this point to go to a third world country like in South America or somewhere like that.
04:17:32 It isn't that it's the governments are better, it's that they're poorer, it's that they lack the ability to get their hooks in you because they don't don't have the resources of the surveillance state to do that.
04:17:46 And then look, there's there's people like kim.com is kim.com, right? But kim.com said something about how ohh I know it.
04:17:54 I know where this is headed.
04:17:55 You know the only solution?
04:17:57 The only way to escape this is if you go to the southern hemisphere.
04:18:02 And you know, whatever, I don't know.
04:18:04 And I've thought about, I've wondered like is it maybe better to just say **** America and go someplace that's kind of like a lawless, you know, third World country where maybe you got to bribe your way into somewhere or whatever, but they'll, you know, leave you alone, let you have, like a little homestead somewhere and.
04:18:23 Whatever I mean it there.
04:18:27 I mean, look, there's that entire town of the Confederates right after the Civil War, a bunch of Confederates, they went to what?
04:18:35 Argentina or something?
04:18:38 Was it Argentina?
04:18:39 You know, like a lot of Nazis after World War 2 went to Argentina.
04:18:44 I don't know.
04:18:45 I mean that I'm not going to.
04:18:48 I'm not going to say that that's an option that you shouldn't consider, but it's just not what I'm considering currently.
04:18:56 But it's it's worth look, it's worth, it's worth keeping.
04:18:58 It all on.
04:18:59 You know.
04:19:00 It's worth keeping that card in the deck.
04:19:03 Thin red line.
04:19:04 I think Libertarianism has done more harm than good to American right by allowing you to feel edgy while feeding the system, right?
04:19:11 It's the worst of both worlds because it look, it basically strips the right of its moral authority.
04:19:19 The one good thing that the right had, right, it takes it all away.
04:19:23 And makes you say stupid **** like, oh, what people do in their.
04:19:27 Privacy at home and.
04:19:27 Blah blah, it makes you support things like gay marriage and all this.
04:19:31 So basically all the one of the one of the few good things about the right gets taken away.
04:19:38 And then it gets replaced with what increasingly is starting to look like one of the bad things of the right, and that is focusing on on just unbridled capitalism, which has been behind a lot of this stuff, you know, like unbridled capitalism is what funds BLM.
04:19:58 Unbridled capitalism is what has has funded the trans kids the the whole in.
04:20:04 There's an industry behind that.
04:20:07 Unbridled capitalism is what is responsible for the the the censorship on on, you know, platforms, right?
04:20:18 Because it's a private company, all that stuff.
04:20:21 So basically libertarianism replacing like the.
04:20:26 In the 90s, conservative and you know, OK, the 90s concerns are like Neo cons and whatever, right and Zionists and all this bad ****.
04:20:38 But it's not like the libertarians are.
Speaker 24
04:20:40 Right.Devon
04:20:41 You know, so libertarians have are are basically a a ******* cancerous assessore.04:20:47 And if you, I mean, look, the fact that Tim Poole is literally interviewing Satanic child murderers to to make the argument against big government.
04:20:56 That tells you everything that you need to.
04:20:58 Know polar bear odyssey?
04:21:01 Betting there isn't a bailout fed needs a banking collapse to remove the banks from the equation collapse needed for the public to back the CBDC Central bank digital currency.
04:21:15 Time will tell.
04:21:16 I don't think we're there yet, but that is 1 possible way, but I even if that takes place.
04:21:23 Even if it's.
04:21:23 Not called a bailout.
04:21:25 Functionally, the people that that we're talking about are not going to lose.
04:21:30 You know, they it might not be called a bailout.
04:21:33 It might be some, you know, it'll be in some fine print somewhere.
04:21:36 And you know, let's say they pass your digital currency thing you're talking about in that in that passage, they'll just be.
04:21:44 Oh, and by the way, all these bankers that we would have bailed out also get, like a bunch of free.
04:21:49 Currency for some reason, you know what I.
04:21:51 Mean like it's those guys.
04:21:53 My point is those guys are not going to lose their money.
04:21:57 The rich people never lose their money.
04:22:00 Night Nation review the entirety of Las Vegas is a giant Skinner box.
04:22:05 Yes, it is.
04:22:06 Yes, it is, although.
04:22:11 In fact, didn't they just build?
04:22:14 They built like this gigant.
04:22:16 It's almost like.
04:22:18 Like a city within a city, like in an indoor city, I forget what I mean.
04:22:22 It was something they were building for.
04:22:23 I haven't been out there for a while, but they were building some kind of like mega complex that was all indoors and.
04:22:29 And let you avoid like you you avoided the strip and you avoided like the you know, the four foot tall Honduran people that would that would smack the you know like the ***** papers at you.
04:22:40 You guys know I'm talking about everyone.
04:22:42 Anyone has been to the Vegas.
04:22:44 You know where they roll up, they roll up the little ***** ads and they smack it with their hand and then try to shove it in your hand.
04:22:50 And it's just like.
Speaker 7
04:22:56 Ohh boy.Devon
04:22:59 Ham radio expert.Speaker
04:23:06 Suck it.Devon
04:23:09 Even middle of nowhere in rural areas, fajitas run the liquor stores and gas station franchises in Tennessee, Arkansas, Illinois, Southern Wisconsin, Missouri, yeah.04:23:20 I actually I was driving.
04:23:24 From uh, the West.
04:23:26 Coast to the East Coast and this.
04:23:29 Like never ending.
04:23:32 Ohh no other way around I.
04:23:33 Was driving from DC to to San Francisco.
04:23:37 And U-Haul truck.
04:23:39 And stop middle and like middle of ******* nowhere, Arkansas.
04:23:43 And it was it was a Patel, you know, running the hotel.
04:23:49 And I was like, yeah, you know, that's.
04:23:53 No surprise and look a lot of that.
04:23:55 Like I said, I think last stream that's as a result there was a government program that that basically gave them.
04:24:03 Basically, 0 interest loans and and free money grants to do that.
04:24:10 And then then or and then, you know, once a couple of them got in their families and well and their.
04:24:20 Fellow expatriates, I guess, helped him get into the business.
04:24:25 Harmless G Boom boomer Bill Gates. I'm not leaving my wealth to my kids. Also, Bill Gates buys his daughter a $57 million Manhattan penthouse with a rooftop pool. Yeah, I know, I know. Like I said, I, I boomers just.
04:24:43 Yeah, my get my get.
04:24:45 In fact, Bill Gates might just said that so that boomers wouldn't leave their kids anything just to be an *******, knowing that if he just gave them an excuse to not do it, they wouldn't.
04:24:56 You know, it would be like, oh, sweet Bill Gates isn't going to do it.
04:24:58 So I don't have to do it because Bill Gates.
04:25:04 I've always considered video games like movies.
04:25:08 In their well in in terms of their cultural significance and their influence absolute.
04:25:13 Veruca Salt, so many toddlers and preschoolers, use tablets, smartphones and play video games that it's affecting the development of their hands, resulting in poor grasping and fine motor skills.
04:25:27 These kids start school and can't hold a pencil.
04:25:30 The weird grip they have is called gamers grasp.
04:25:34 Well, there you go, gamers grasp.
04:25:39 Is that like the?
04:25:40 Is that like the joystick claw hand that you get if you play arcade arcade games?
04:25:51 Good. Ohh Hitler *****.
Speaker 1
04:25:55 Oh, poor baby.04:25:57 I'm so sorry.
Devon
04:25:59 I'm just saying random ones at this point.04:26:01 Devin, it's gay light savings time for all the ****** nerds outside the cactus world.
04:26:06 Let these filthy animals know it's time to adjust the clocks on their microwave.
04:26:11 Yeah, it's we, we traveled through time, spring forward and fall back.
04:26:17 So we have, we have traveled through a a wormhole during all this.
04:26:22 I don't have the wormhole animation anymore.
04:26:25 Thing I got is.
04:26:29 That's not very close.
04:26:32 Yes, we have.
04:26:33 We have traveled through time.
04:26:37 During this during this stream.
04:26:41 Zero there again there I think.
04:26:45 I mean, there's a game that's or the there's a game that just came out.
04:26:52 Called Operation Harsh doorstep, that's by a YouTuber to make a platform like Battlefield 2, where modders are able to make it into whatever they want for free as a simple game.
04:27:07 I think this is good because it takes time away from Jewish made games.
04:27:12 That centralized to them?
04:27:15 Well, I mean, but at the same time.
04:27:16 Like look again.
04:27:19 Anything in moderation, whatever.
04:27:20 Right to some extent.
04:27:23 My point is.
04:27:25 That that's.
04:27:26 I'm not talking about.
04:27:28 You know, you're playing a game every once in a while.
04:27:31 You know who you are, if you if you spend too much time playing video games and way too many young men, myself included.
04:27:42 A lot of their lives doing something useless, running in a hamster wheel.
04:27:49 And and getting hamster treats.
04:27:52 And and just the the bottom line is you need to avoid that.
04:27:59 Church of Mirada.
04:28:13 California is passing laws to make films even more diverse.
04:28:18 Wait to that's a lot of make it more.
04:28:21 That's interesting.
04:28:21 Perhaps it's a good thing that these, this this means this means of.
04:28:27 Propaganda which have for so long shaped our culture, be made so unpalatable as to be rendered and effective at their purpose.
04:28:36 I I think just in General, Hollywood's influence is is slowly dying and slowly dying, and it it look and it it'll evolve.
04:28:47 In some.
04:28:49 In some form or another, it'll keep going and there's a lot of money and a lot of smart people behind that ****.
04:28:56 And they will make it work, and it'll, you know, it'll continue to evolve, and they'll offer, they'll peddle their influence and and maybe different ways.
04:29:07 They might have different setbacks, like in the same way that, like Napster, temporarily set back the music industry right, and then it evolved.
04:29:16 And now it's basically, you know, Spotify or whatever.
04:29:19 But I think that that movies will undergo kind of a a change because more and more people don't go to the theater.
04:29:28 I mean, I haven't been to a theater.
04:29:30 Well, I don't really live anywhere near one, but it's even if I did.
04:29:35 It's not something I would do.
04:29:40 Maybe ever these days because you got to be around a bunch of of ****** people, right?
04:29:48 For starters, but and then the other thing is, you know all the movies suck, but I think it will evolve and and maybe turn more into like a Netflix kind of a thing where it's they're still have influence.
04:29:59 It's just more of a subscription based kind of a thing that you watch in your home or on your phone.
04:30:04 Or or whatever and look Netflix is doesn't need any laws to diversify their content and and it doesn't seem to be.
04:30:14 I mean, they're they're maybe not growing at the same rate that they were.
04:30:17 And and I know there was like some of these, some of this go won't go broke cope that was going on a little bit.
04:30:24 Ago and they had some earnings that missed their mark.
04:30:28 But I mean Netflix as an entity is not going anywhere and and look, and if it does, something will just rise up and take its place in the same way Netflix overtook Blockbuster.
04:30:40 I'm sure maybe someday something will take over, but that the the the Jews will always have their their their motion pictures.
04:30:50 Polar Bear Odyssey bad number its average.
04:30:57 $1100 here's a source. Ohh.
04:31:00 I I believe you.
04:31:02 And that's that's not much off from what you were saying.
04:31:04 Just the the fact that it's it's, you know, I mean that's a lot of money. I mean just the fact that it's over $1000 that the average Australian spends over $1000 in gambling.
04:31:16 The years.
04:31:18 Is insane.
04:31:21 But at the same time, I I you know.
04:31:26 I believe it.
04:31:26 I guess you know.
04:31:27 Like that's uh.
04:31:30 That that's yeah.
04:31:32 Micronova do you have an opinion or wait?
04:31:37 Do you have an opinion you would share about JFG tonight?
04:31:41 He has a show.
04:31:43 He has a show on Odyssey.
04:31:45 I know, Jeff.
04:31:46 I've been on.
04:31:46 I mean, not on since since he's moved to Odyssey.
04:31:49 But I've been on his his stream on YouTube way back in the day a couple of times.
04:31:55 Two or three times or so.
04:31:57 I mean, if you can get past the French accent, you know.
04:32:01 I mean, look, he's not you.
04:32:02 You know what to expect from him, you know?
04:32:04 He's he's he is an atheist.
04:32:07 He's what he describes himself as a moral nihilist.
04:32:12 But he's consistent.
04:32:13 You know what I.
04:32:14 Mean like you know?
04:32:16 You can't say he's not intelligent.
04:32:18 He's definitely intelligent, and he's definitely consistent.
04:32:21 And it's sometimes you get.
04:32:26 Insightful views from him.
04:32:30 Sometimes it's maybe too colored by his moral nihilism or his atheism.
04:32:37 You know, to be very compelling.
04:32:40 But it's, you know, it's.
04:32:43 Yeah, he's he's got a.
04:32:45 He's been around a long time.
04:32:47 And now that he's free of the YouTube shackles.
04:32:51 I'm sure he's a lot more comfortable on on, on Odyssey.
04:32:57 I've we're coming, Don.
04:32:59 Hey, Devin, by the way, Las Vegas was built by a Jewish mobster called Bugsy Siegel.
04:33:04 There you go.
04:33:06 Who would have thought that a Jew would have built Sin City?
04:33:11 Mike Renova, the Indian Patel Green Card citizenship is a rotating scam.
04:33:17 The value invested in USA once reached or once reaching A threshold grants green cards.
04:33:25 Two, wait.
04:33:27 The value invested in USA once reaching A threshold grants green card to foreigner.
04:33:34 The foreigner transfers the property to a relative and the cycle repeats the cool down to green card is a year or two.
04:33:44 The hotel counts as investment, yeah, so they're just scamming the system.
04:33:49 But there's doesn't matter.
04:33:51 It's the federal government still allowing it.
04:33:53 The that that program shouldn't even ******* exist.
04:33:58 But that's exactly what you're going to get too when you have people that especially that come from low trust societies where everyone's scamming the system, that that's just culturally what that's in fact intellectually that's the smartest thing to.
04:34:14 Do when you live in a society like that.
04:34:16 If you're not scamming the system.
04:34:18 You're you're getting scammed.
04:34:21 Oh my God.
04:34:21 Cheryl, we're wrapping thing.
04:34:23 We're finally wrapping it up here.
Speaker 7
04:34:25 Don't worry, Cheryl.Devon
04:34:26 I'll be there in a second.04:34:27 How about that?
04:34:30 Micronova, the Asian American Hotel Association, is the foreign outpost that coordinates this street shutter invasion via leveraging rotating hotels.
04:34:41 Please, Sir, redeem green card show bobs and vagine.
04:34:46 Well, there you go.
04:34:46 There's an entire association that facilitates that.
04:34:51 Michael 57 DE.
04:34:55 We were at four, at 4 and ******* 1/2 hours.
04:34:59 Sorry, I just had to let it out.
04:35:03 Well, **** me to tears.
04:35:05 I'm actually catching a black pilled live stream.
04:35:08 I guess snowstorms are good for something after all. Held heaven, hell, the gods. Hell our volk. Some long overdue shekels. Well, I appreciate that, Michael. 57 DE.
04:35:18 From 4 minutes ago.
04:35:19 But you're you're I.
04:35:21 Hate to tell.
04:35:21 You we're, we're.
04:35:22 We're closing it down now after this next.
04:35:24 One. All right, you got here just in time. Hey, radio expert in the no. In the month of March, the day length increases by 45 minutes in Miami.
04:35:42 And 101 minutes in Duluth, the Flat Earth model cannot explain this difference.
04:35:48 No, it cannot.
04:35:50 No it cannot.
04:35:54 Believe in the Flat Earth.
04:35:58 That that is.
04:35:59 There's a lot of.
04:36:00 Well, that's The thing is the flatter model doesn't exist.
04:36:03 So there's that.
04:36:06 There's no such thing as a Flat Earth model.
04:36:10 All right, guys, well, I'm closing it down.
04:36:13 This is a long one.
04:36:14 This might be like a record making length one.
04:36:18 Thanks for joining me here this this wonderful Saturday hope to see you again on Wednesday.
04:36:25 In the meantime, as always for black pill, I'm of course.
Speaker 18
04:36:32 Devil stack.