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INSOMNIA STREAM: SATANIC PANIC EDITION 1.mp3

02/27/2022
Speaker 1
00:00:00 The streets of London, streets of burning.
00:01:33 The leave side streets that I was.
00:01:41 Hopes may rise on the grassmere.
00:01:49 The safety of the.
00:01:52 Panic on the streets.
00:02:18 Down the disco.
00:02:24 Because the music that they constantly play says.
00:02:28 Nothing to me about my life.
Speaker
00:02:33 The blessed.
Speaker 1
00:02:35 Because the music they constantly play underneath side street that you slip down.
Speaker 2
00:02:53 And the teacher?
00:02:54 The teacher got the teacher.
Speaker 1
00:03:03 JJ hang the DJ, the DJ.
00:03:27 DJ, DJ DJ.
Speaker 2
00:03:53 Thank you.
Speaker 6
00:04:11 I put a spell on you.
Speaker 1
00:04:26 You better stop before dying that you do.
00:04:31 I said I won't cry.
Speaker
00:04:42 I'm gonna take money.
Speaker 7
00:04:52 Put me down.
00:04:54 I put a spell on you.
Speaker 8
00:07:21 Your man.
Speaker 9
00:07:29 That you're doing.
Speaker
00:07:34 Watch out.
00:07:43 Ain't gonna take money.
Speaker 8
00:07:53 Put me down.
00:07:55 I put a spell on you.
Devon
00:08:27 Good morning, good evening, good afternoon.
00:08:29 Good night.
00:08:29 This is the insomnia stream.
00:08:31 I am your magical host.
00:08:35 Devon stack.
00:08:37 We have a lot to go through tonight.
00:08:41 I started.
00:08:43 I honestly had no intention of going down the rabbit hole that I went down.
00:08:47 I'm actually surprised that I kind of missed that.
00:08:49 On this one.
00:08:52 But I came across the documentary from several years ago back in the 90s.
00:08:57 And I watched it.
00:08:59 And the story just never ends.
00:09:01 In fact, as you'll.
00:09:04 See it in.
00:09:04 Probably in in the couple hours like.
00:09:06 This this is going to be a.
Speaker 11
00:09:08 Long one, folks.
Devon
00:09:10 At the end and the the the latest news in this story is like last month.
00:09:17 So it just keeps going, it just keeps going.
Speaker 11
00:09:22 Some of you will be familiar with this.
Devon
00:09:25 Some of you weren't, and it was a rather it made a lot of news.
00:09:30 Oh, I'd say about 10 years ago.
00:09:34 And it was supposedly, I just flew under my radar.
00:09:38 It was like a big thing in the late 90s and stuff like that.
00:09:44 But I would ask once again, those of you in chat that know where this is going.
00:09:50 Maybe not ruin it for everybody else.
00:09:53 Don't worry, we'll get to the meat and potatoes and you know what I think there's going to be those of you who do know about this.
00:10:01 There are a lot of entrenched camps, one of strong opinions about this.
00:10:09 And I'm sure I'm going to anger at.
00:10:11 Least some of you.
00:10:14 But that's OK if I didn't, I wouldn't.
00:10:16 Be doing my job right?
00:10:19 So let's have a little look, see.
00:10:22 Now let's pop this up.
00:10:26 Now the documentary was put out by HBO.
00:10:32 Back in, I believe it was 1995 ish or so.
00:10:41 It opens up with some really horrific crime scene footage.
00:10:47 I mean, like, very horrific.
00:10:48 I'm not going to show it.
00:10:49 It's it's that bad.
00:10:52 Involving it just shows dead little boys.
00:10:58 It shows the bodies of dead little boys.
00:11:02 And you're you're immediately.
00:11:05 I mean, they, they they immediately.
00:11:07 You like within the first couple of seconds you're seeing the corpses of of naked like 8 year old boys in a ditch.
00:11:17 So pretty horrifying stuff.
00:11:23 You know, it says that this is 1993 and Robin Hood Hills, West Memphis, AR.
00:11:33 In the background, there's Metallica music playing, which is a little bit.
00:11:38 Odd at 1st until you realize why.
00:11:43 And a again a very heavy metal font, which also seems a bit odd.
00:11:50 And it says Paradise Lost the child murders at Robin.
Speaker 12
00:11:55 Hood hills.
Devon
00:12:00 And then you're treated with a a montage of some news reports to kind of give you an idea as to where this is going. So this is June 7th, 1993.
Speaker 13
00:12:13 KAID 8 News.
Speaker 14
00:12:16 Good evening. I'm Diane.
Speaker 15
00:12:17 Davis and I'm.
00:12:18 Tony Brooks in a statement given to the police and obtained by a Memphis newspaper, 17 year old Jesse.
00:12:23 Miss Kelly allegedly confesses to watching two other suspects choke rape and sexually mutilate 3 W Memphis second graders Jenna Newton reports.
Speaker 16
00:12:33 According to the published report, Miss Kelly told police he watched 18 year old Damian Eckles and 16 year old Jason Baldwin brutalized the children with a club and a knife.
00:12:45 The report says Miss Kelly told police Eccles and Baldwin raped one of the boys and sexually mutilated another as part of a cult ritual.
00:12:54 Miss Kelly is quoted as saying he did not take part in the rape and mutilation, but that he helped subdue 1 victim who tried to escape at a press conference Inspector Gary Gitchell.
00:13:05 Said the case against the accused teens is very strong.
Speaker 17
00:13:09 Scale of 1 to.
Speaker 5
00:13:09 10 How solid the duplicate is?
Speaker 16
00:13:16 It appears satanic worship may have played.
00:13:19 A role in.
00:13:19 The murders since the very beginning of the investigation, people all around West Memphis have come forward with stories of satanic cults.
00:13:29 Reverend Tommy Stacy's Church is down the street from where the bodies were found.
00:13:34 One year ago, Damian Eccles told the church's youth minister he had a packed with the devil and he was going to hell.
Speaker 18
00:13:43 I do know that my youth director talked to Damon extensively after revival that we had and he told him that he could not be saved, that he could not give his heart to Jesus and my youth director then tried to get him to take a Bible and he made the statement that he could not take a Bible because if he did.
00:14:03 The rest of them.
00:14:04 Were getting me.
Speaker 16
00:14:04 In West Memphis, Gina Newton, KIT, eight night news.
Devon
00:14:10 So immediately the.
00:14:12 The impression you're getting is like, oh, I'm some kind of satanic ritual stuff.
00:14:17 What's going on?
00:14:20 You then briefly.
00:14:22 Highlight some of the victims families.
00:14:25 This is the mother of one of the boys.
00:14:29 This is the parents of another one of the boys.
00:14:35 And again these these are second graders.
00:14:38 Who were found mutilated, naked, thrown in a ditch, left the you know or or murdered not left to die.
00:14:47 One of the mothers.
00:14:49 And there's a theme especially like with you got to remember this part of the country you're talking about.
00:14:55 Maybe not the at least this part of that, that area.
00:14:59 We're talking like very low IQ trailer trash white people, and so they're not well spoken.
00:15:08 They all have very thick accents.
00:15:12 And they talk about Jesus a lot.
00:15:15 And so you slowly start getting this impression given to you by the Jewish film makers that they, oh, this is this is deep in the Bible belt.
00:15:25 They seem to maybe be overreacting that like this satanic stuff seems like maybe it doesn't.
00:15:32 It doesn't really add up.
00:15:37 You meet the father.
00:15:40 Of the one of the the the guys who confesses.
00:15:46 To the crime.
00:15:48 And he's like, no, my boy, he's a good boy.
00:15:50 He wouldn't do something like that.
00:15:54 The father of another one of the the boys, he's like, Oh no.
00:16:00 My kids, a good boy.
00:16:03 He wouldn't do something like that.
00:16:05 There's no way.
00:16:09 And then you are introduced to the stepfather.
00:16:13 Of one of the victims.
00:16:15 Who is this low IQ?
00:16:19 Hams it up for the camera.
00:16:22 Definitely a weirdo.
00:16:25 Like he's a weirdo.
00:16:27 And because he doesn't realize what's being done with him on camera, he acts he performs for the for the cameras and comes across like kind of a psycho.
00:16:42 And and and you know they give them, they give them all the screen time that he wants.
00:16:47 Here's an example of of some of his really weird behavior.
00:16:51 They take him to the scene where they found the boys.
00:16:55 And this is a documentary crew that's basically covering the whole case. You know, nothing's gone to trial just yet.
00:17:01 And they take him to the scene and he again he he performs.
Speaker 4
00:17:08 To me, this place as I stand is like hell on Earth because I know that three babies were killed right out here.
00:17:18 Where I stand, I know my son was castrated and possibly laid there on that bank and bled to death.
00:17:25 I know he was choked.
00:17:27 I know one boys head was beat in beyond recognition.
00:17:31 I know one little boy was skinned, almost like a animal.
00:17:35 Cut had to shave his head.
00:17:39 All types of injuries to the head where they just kept beating and pounding on them and killing them and killing them.
00:17:46 It's like they enjoyed it.
00:17:48 They killed him two or three times.
00:17:51 Jesse Miskelly junior, Jason Baldwin, Damien Echols.
00:17:57 I hope your master the devil does take you soon.
00:18:01 I want you to meet him real soon.
00:18:04 And the day you die, I'm going to praise God and I make you a promise.
00:18:09 The day you die every year on May 5th, I'm going to come to your graveside.
00:18:16 I'm going to spit on you.
00:18:18 I'm going to curse the day you were born.
00:18:21 And I'm sure while I'm standing there, I'm going to have to have other bodily functions.
00:18:25 Let go upon your grave.
00:18:27 I promise you, as God is my witness, I'll visit all three of your grave.
Devon
00:18:35 So this is actually some of the more tame stuff from this guy.
00:18:39 So immediately you're like, oh, so they're just a bunch of backwoods ******* who are afraid of the devil.
00:18:47 And you know, like how can I?
00:18:52 And there's there's really not a whole lot of sympathy for the families.
00:18:56 Of these dead kids.
00:18:58 Especially not this guy.
00:19:02 So then you meet the the, the, the boys, the, the, the accused.
00:19:08 Ohh, look at Jason Baldwin.
00:19:10 He's so innocent looking.
00:19:13 He's so innocent.
00:19:14 He just got caught up in in all this.
00:19:16 He doesn't know why his friend has has said that they committed this murders or these murders.
00:19:25 He he's just like, yeah, I don't know.
00:19:27 I don't get it.
00:19:28 I, you know, I I I I just you know.
00:19:32 I don't have an alibi because my mom works late and I don't know what.
00:19:36 What could have happened?
00:19:39 And you know Damian, that's interesting name.
00:19:42 We'll get to that in a second.
00:19:43 Damien is is the older boy.
00:19:46 He's 18, but he's just like an emo kid.
00:19:50 He's not like a an actual Satanist, you know?
00:19:53 He's just.
00:19:53 One of those.
00:19:54 Those emo kids that that pretends like they're into Wicca and all that stupid.
00:19:59 That lights candles and reads poetry and and listens to Black Sabbath and and Megadeth and Metallica.
00:20:10 You know and and because he wore black and he was, you know, he was like the weird kid in the Bible belt.
00:20:16 That's why they picked him up.
Speaker 19
00:20:22 Under a lot.
Devon
00:20:23 And here's, here's so here's him kind of explaining like the situation.
Speaker 19
00:20:30 They had to find somebody to lay this off on before people started losing their jobs.
00:20:36 The public was getting real upset and saying the cops were incompetent, couldn't do their job, so they didn't do something fast.
00:20:44 And we were like, really the obvious choice because we stood out from everybody else.
00:20:53 They'll workouts Barry Banks.
Devon
00:21:04 He was just the obvious choice.
00:21:07 Because he was, you know, they were the outsider kids.
00:21:11 And so when something bad happened, the cops just went after him because he wears Metallica T-shirts.
00:21:17 And, you know, has long hair.
00:21:20 And you know that's that's just that's what happens.
00:21:23 In the Bible belt.
00:21:26 And then they talk about the guy who made the confession.
00:21:31 Excuse me.
00:21:32 And they say this guy is actually ********.
00:21:37 And the cops bullied him for 12 hours.
00:21:41 Before they got this confession out of him and he was just so scared because he's a ****** and that's why and they just needed a confession from someone and he was too.
00:21:52 He wasn't mentally capable of of understanding what he was doing, and so they made this this literal ******.
00:22:03 Confess to something he didn't do.
00:22:05 And so and that's their, that's their only evidence.
00:22:09 And so.
00:22:11 You know that that's it's just a case of cops.
00:22:15 That don't want to look bad.
00:22:17 The there's a lot of pressure on them to find the killers and they just bullied this ****** into handing over his friends.
00:22:28 See right there you see? It's his IQ is 72.
00:22:34 And even though he confessed now, now that he's got lawyers and stuff, he's he's rolling it back.
00:22:40 He claims he was actually wrestling.
00:22:43 In another town.
00:22:46 And they give them a separate trial because of the confession.
00:22:52 And again, he's just.
00:22:53 A good boy.
00:22:54 You know, his his parents are like, yeah, you know, he's he's just always a sweet kid.
00:23:00 He's just, you know, he's not too bright.
00:23:04 And then they they show in all these these cuts so that you get a feel for the town.
00:23:09 Look, there's churches and on the sign Satan has.
00:23:12 No unemployment problems. Whoa.
00:23:15 And Church of Christ, most of us could be perfect parents if it weren't for our own children.
00:23:21 Oh, Second Baptist Church.
00:23:23 There's no business like Soul business.
00:23:26 Join us this Sunday.
00:23:27 It's it's terrible out there.
00:23:28 There's so many churches there.
00:23:32 Oh my God.
00:23:32 They just there's so many churches.
00:23:35 These hyper.
00:23:38 Hyperactive Christians that are just, they're so paranoid about Satan. Satan's hiding behind every rock.
00:23:47 And look, here's this guy, this the the weird guy again.
00:23:50 See, look how weird he is.
Speaker 4
00:23:52 I believe there's demons on Earth and I believe his angels try to help people. I believe demons try to possess and hurt people to do the devil's will. Just how angels try to help people to do God's will.
Devon
00:24:08 See, he's a lunatic.
00:24:10 He's talking about ******* demons he's wearing, like an American flag shirt.
00:24:15 He he's every.
00:24:16 Everything that most of the people watching HBO's ******* hate.
00:24:22 In fact.
00:24:23 They they even show him in a church service.
00:24:27 And he's singing a song in front of the congregation.
00:24:31 And it's really cringe and they make a big deal out of, like, how you know how cringe he is trying to sing.
00:24:39 Then they also show this scene where, like, oh, he's got this gun and he's acting like in, you know, he's playing.
00:24:44 It for the cameras.
00:24:46 He's like, yeah.
00:24:48 I'm gonna get those **** ** ******* that.
00:24:50 Kill my my boy.
Speaker 20
00:24:53 They reach trees and they going to get took care of.
00:24:57 No, Todd, I could save the state A.
00:24:59 Lot of money.
00:25:00 They just let me line them through some of the guns up.
00:25:04 I say this one here is for you.
00:25:05 We're gonna go for the jungle water.
00:25:08 Oh, Jesse, I don't blow you having too, son.
00:25:14 This one here is for you, Damon.
00:25:16 You, that black circle right in the.
00:25:17 Middle ohh you got.
Speaker 21
00:25:21 Damn it.
00:25:22 Sure looked painful, didn't it?
Speaker 20
00:25:23 Yeah. Hey, Jason.
00:25:25 I want you smile and **** ** a kiss.
00:25:27 For this one.
00:25:30 Now let's go back to Jesse.
00:25:32 I just wanted him and I want him bleed a little bit like he made.
00:25:35 My baby.
00:25:36 Bleed. Oh, Jesse, you.
00:25:39 Know it breaks my heart thinking about that scum.
00:25:43 Because this right here is all needs to be done.
00:25:45 To him just shot slightly.
Devon
00:25:50 They show that ohh look, he's kind of a weirdo.
00:25:53 That's how these people are out here.
00:25:56 They talked to the cops because part of the confession.
00:26:01 That they they play has a few inconsistencies in it, like for example that the ****** kid was saying that you had the wrong times and some other stuff that didn't quite add up and they were saying, oh, look, that you you were leading him.
00:26:21 During the interrogation, telling him what to say.
00:26:26 And you showed him this picture of the dead kid to freak him out.
00:26:32 And you know you.
00:26:34 Why did you have to show them that?
00:26:36 Because that's why you start confessing.
00:26:37 Because everyone knows if you show a ****** a picture of a dead kid, he's going to confess to doing.
00:26:42 The murder himself.
00:26:45 And they make fun of this guy again.
00:26:47 Some more.
00:26:49 Even though he's at the grave of his kid.
00:26:53 And they're like, oh, look, look, he's a weirdo because they're there on Christmas.
00:26:57 And taking photos of the gravestone.
00:27:00 And then they do like the not.
00:27:01 So subtle like.
00:27:05 Pay attention.
Speaker 22
00:27:06 To the.
Speaker 11
00:27:07 You want to see.
Devon
00:27:10 Amazing cinematography for a documentary that is building a narrative.
00:27:16 Pay close attention to the shots they use of this guy.
Speaker 20
00:27:28 Wish you could have been here.
Speaker 23
00:27:29 To hear me sing lightly.
Speaker 24
00:27:31 You light.
Speaker 23
00:27:31 Hear me say.
Speaker 20
00:27:44 I think he's little Christmas tree.
00:27:45 You'll stay there real well.
00:27:47 It's in there tight enough.
00:27:48 I don't think the wind will blow it over anything.
00:27:52 Come here.
00:27:52 Kneel down here by me.
Speaker 25
00:27:55 Right.
Devon
00:27:57 Nothing subtle about that.
00:28:02 Nothing subtle about that.
00:28:06 So now they seem to be saying this guy is evil.
00:28:09 They're starting to plant the seeds.
00:28:11 This guy is evil.
00:28:13 He's not just a weirdo.
00:28:14 He's ******* evil.
00:28:20 And they show the defense team.
00:28:23 Talk, you know, like how how uh.
00:28:26 You know that they're.
00:28:27 Trying so hard to get these innocent.
00:28:29 Boys off of the hook.
Speaker 26
00:28:31 The only thing that that the prosecution has has put on against Jesse is this wild story that he told the police and I hope that the fact that there's no physical evidence linking him to the crime scene is is going to have a lot of impact on the jury.
Devon
00:28:46 See the the only thing linking him to the crime is the fact that he said he did the crime, but other than that, like that's it.
00:28:54 There's there's no physical evidence.
00:28:56 It's they bullied a ******.
Speaker 26
00:28:59 And we're talking about reasonable doubt.
Speaker 27
00:29:01 But I think you need to deal with like the physical evidence, not just, and not to just let them get away with the fact.
00:29:07 That they were in the water and all washed away.
00:29:09 A crime scene that clean has to be purposefully planned done that way, that, that, that the fact that looked washed down would not just happenstance.
00:29:19 That, that, that, that, that.
Speaker 24
00:29:20 There's probably something like you said we.
Speaker 2
00:29:22 Can maybe use?
Speaker 27
00:29:22 That somebody, somebody, somebody intentionally.
00:29:28 With great cunning and intelligence tried to get get rid of.
00:29:35 Every spot of blood, semen, mud, footprint of anything that may have been.
00:29:41 There they purposely.
00:29:43 Tried to get rid of all that.
Devon
00:29:44 An 18 and 17 and a 16 year.
Speaker 26
00:29:46 Old kid.
00:29:47 Don't pull this off.
Devon
00:29:50 They couldn't possibly be teenagers.
00:29:53 Killing kids and then throwing them in a a a canal.
00:29:58 I mean, they basically the the photos in the beginning that they show that you know again, I'm not going to show it was after they drained a ditch.
00:30:07 So this is what they're what they're saying.
00:30:10 What they're saying is, after they drained this ditch and there was a search party, they've been looking for, these people have been through that area several times.
00:30:19 They found a shoe and then that ended up finding the bodies.
00:30:24 But they had to drain the.
00:30:27 And they didn't end up finding, you know, DNA everywhere because it was outdoors.
00:30:32 In the mud.
00:30:35 And and the bodies have been shoved underwater and held down with like sticks and stuff like that.
00:30:41 And same thing with the clothes.
00:30:42 So they've been soaking in water for a couple of days.
00:30:46 And there there wasn't, like.
00:30:49 DNA testing, back then in 1993, like there is now, so all the people that think that crime solving is like CSI though, like, you know, most people watching this are.
00:31:01 Like wow, so there's.
00:31:01 Like it must have been some, like, super professional criminal.
00:31:07 That did this.
00:31:09 And it couldn't possibly be these nice little teenagers.
00:31:15 So they bring in this guy and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:18 The the police, they definitely they were.
00:31:22 They were.
00:31:23 They were intimidating him and leading him into this false confession.
00:31:29 They make sure to throw in a shot of a rebel flag, so you kind of get the feel and, you know, look ohh look in.
00:31:35 The American flags on the ground.
00:31:38 But the rebel flags up.
00:31:41 Kind of a metaphor for these.
00:31:43 This backwards area, right?
00:31:48 And in the end.
00:31:50 He gets convicted.
00:31:53 And they take him off to jail.
00:31:57 So then Part 2 centers around the other two kids who they are trying separately.
00:32:02 I don't know why they should try it all three separately, but they decide to do it this way.
00:32:10 And they they **** all over this guy because they.
00:32:13 Brought in a.
00:32:14 Part of the part of thing they had to.
00:32:16 Come up with was motive.
00:32:19 Like, why would someone do this?
00:32:21 Why would these teenage boys just kill these little kids?
00:32:26 And according to the the the documentary, I mean they're they're saying well, and this guy, I listen to Metallica.
00:32:33 And he wore black clothes.
00:32:37 He's clearly a satanist.
00:32:39 Because you know, he, he, he dabbles in.
00:32:42 The Wicca stuff.
00:32:44 And so they brought in this crack that would say, Oh yeah, this is definitely some Satan ****.
00:32:50 And they they tried to discredit him and say, oh, well, you your your PhD is from a male in school and and it doesn't matter.
00:32:58 You've been a consulting on these cases for like 30 years.
00:33:03 You're just a quack.
00:33:04 You're not a real expert.
00:33:07 And you know these books that that Damon or Damian?
00:33:14 Again, we'll get to the name of.
00:33:15 The second that.
00:33:16 Damien had in his bedroom.
00:33:18 It's just that, you know, that's just emo kid stuff.
00:33:21 Emo kid stuff.
00:33:23 They have pentagrams.
00:33:24 You know it's that's that's what they're into upside down crosses.
00:33:28 Not a big deal.
00:33:29 Like you're a quack.
00:33:30 You don't know you're talking about.
00:33:32 He's just an.
00:33:33 Emo kid, chill out, man.
00:33:35 You ******* square.
Speaker 29
00:33:39 My son was born in West Memphis.
00:33:42 He was raised in.
00:33:43 West Memphis.
Devon
00:33:44 So this is this is Damian's Damian's father.
Speaker 29
00:33:47 In West Memphis.
00:33:48 And for the life of me I cannot understand what people it's got this bad image of it.
00:33:55 So what if it wore a black trench coat?
00:34:00 He's not the only one that does.
00:34:03 You know, So what if he wore black T-shirts, black pants?
00:34:09 Johnny Cash wears black, doesn't it?
Speaker 31
00:34:11 Well, I wear black.
00:34:13 Michelle wears black.
00:34:16 Tommy wears black.
00:34:18 It's we're all just partial to black, I guess.
Speaker 29
00:34:21 I like black myself.
00:34:24 And I'm by no means no devil worshipper, nor is he.
Speaker 30
00:34:29 He was going to school, he wanted to go to school, to be a priest.
00:34:32 He was faithful in the church and.
Devon
00:34:37 He was gonna wear.
00:34:38 I mean, he was going to go be a priest.
00:34:40 I mean priest, even priest wear black.
00:34:42 You're you guys are crazy.
Speaker 30
00:34:45 And The Hague looked into a little bit of Wicca, but he he never went to it.
00:34:52 And I think if people looked into what to what Wicca is, they would understand it a little better.
Devon
00:35:00 See that it it's just this misunderstanding.
00:35:04 He he just looked and he was just dabbing like, no, like emo kids.
00:35:09 He has got some wicked books and you know.
00:35:11 Not a big deal.
00:35:17 In the end.
00:35:21 My skipping ahead.
00:35:24 And skip a little ahead.
Speaker 19
00:35:29 West Memphis is pretty much like.
00:35:31 Second, Salem.
00:35:34 Right now.
00:35:36 Because everything that happens there, every crime, no matter what it is, it's blamed on Satanism.
Devon
00:35:42 You know it's it's like Second, Salem.
00:35:44 It's like the Salem witch trials.
00:35:48 You know any anything that happens, they just they just it's all Satan.
00:35:55 These people are lunatics.
00:35:59 They then literally try to that like they end up putting this guy in the stand because he gives a member of the HBO crew a knife as a present and the HBO crew is all freaked out by it.
00:36:16 And so they send it, they give it to the cops.
00:36:20 And they they test it and it has his blood type on it. Right? And but it's also his stepson's blood types.
00:36:31 They're like, oh, maybe this was the knife that was used again.
00:36:34 There wasn't like DNA testing.
00:36:36 Like there is now back then.
00:36:38 So that was like the.
00:36:39 That's what they.
00:36:39 Could do was blood type.
00:36:41 Like a million people have that blood type.
00:36:43 And again, this guy is kind of a buffoon.
00:36:45 And yeah, they made a good job of him looking like a buffoon on on the stand.
00:36:49 Like, oh, like maybe.
00:36:51 He did it.
00:36:52 He's the evil guy that we showed in the cemetery with the pentagram on his forehead from the Christmas tree shadow.
00:36:59 He's he.
00:37:00 It's probably him.
00:37:05 But in the end.
00:37:08 He gets Damien gets sentenced.
00:37:12 To death by lethal injection.
00:37:17 And the other kid gets sentenced to life without parole.
Speaker 22
00:37:24 Now this.
Speaker 11
00:37:27 This is.
Devon
00:37:28 The reason why?
00:37:30 And again, I told her this gonna.
00:37:31 Be a long 1:00 tonight.
00:37:36 The reason why we're going over this is there's this misconception on the left.
00:37:41 I'm sorry on the right that the left can't mean and you're about to see the mother of all memes, the mother of all narrative rewrites in the history of the world.
00:37:53 What happened? Just to recap.
00:37:56 Was there was essentially what the local officials thought was an open and shut case.
00:38:04 They had these murders that took place that were very horrific.
00:38:09 They had these troublemaker kids that one of them confessed to it.
00:38:15 And it was a done deal.
00:38:20 And it wasn't until some New York Jews caught wind and brought in crews and started dicking with everything.
00:38:29 That this case would have ever have been talked.
00:38:32 About ever again.
Speaker 11
00:38:34 So this this.
Devon
00:38:37 Documentary comes out.
00:38:40 There are tons of activists that pop out of the woodwork from the Internet.
00:38:44 That's like pre Reddit.
00:38:45 But think Reddit like a bunch of Reddit people.
00:38:49 You know a bunch of Reddit Internet sleuths start pouring over the footage of the documentary, trying to see things they're all blaming the weirdo guy.
00:39:00 They're all trying to find information that you know it it's even worse back then because like, there wasn't even as much stuff on the Internet to find.
00:39:09 You had a bunch of activists like Eddie Vedder.
00:39:14 From Pearl Jam and Metallica.
00:39:19 Got involved.
00:39:20 That's why the music was in the the documentary because when they heard the story, they're like, yeah, you can use our music because he was just a fan of ours and, you know, not a big deal.
00:39:33 And Johnny Depp got involved.
00:39:35 The Dixie Chicks get involved.
00:39:39 And it becomes like this big thing, where now everyone thinks that these three kids are innocent because of this documentary.
00:39:49 The only problem is.
00:39:52 The documentary left out a whole lot of ****.
00:39:56 A whole lot of ****.
00:39:58 And some of it, it included, but it was.
00:40:00 Overlooked by people.
00:40:03 Who wanted so much to believe this narrative?
00:40:07 That a bunch of Metallica fans.
00:40:10 Were attacked by the evil Christians.
00:40:13 The evil white Christians, the Bible thumping Christians.
00:40:18 Who sees Satan hiding behind every rock?
00:40:22 And just railroaded these these normal kids that didn't do nothing wrong.
00:40:30 Now again, the first thing that they say is like, oh, this guy Jesse.
00:40:34 Right, this is the ****** you'll notice in their mug shots.
00:40:38 They don't look like they do in the documentary.
00:40:40 They all make sure to cut their hair and look a lot more normal in the documentary.
00:40:45 This is what he looked like when they got when they arrested him.
00:40:49 So, Jesse, Miss Kelly.
00:40:51 It's kind of an odd last name.
00:40:54 Miss Kelly makes me think descending from slaves.
00:40:57 Oh, sure thing, Miss Kelly.
00:41:01 They said that, Oh yeah, he's he's a ******, right?
00:41:06 He's got the IQ of a child and he was bullied into making this confession.
00:41:12 Well, in, in the documentary itself.
00:41:15 His lawyers tell him exactly before testing him what the test.
00:41:19 Is all about.
Speaker 26
00:41:22 Saying that you're stupid or that you're doing or or or making fun of you.
00:41:26 But the court's going to be very interested in determining exactly at what level you are functioning, how well you're able to read, and how well you're able to write.
00:41:35 Things of that nature.
00:41:37 Stuff like soon.
Speaker 1
00:41:39 OK.
Speaker 26
00:41:40 So if the court determines that that you are operating below average, then there's a possibility that the Court will not be allowed or the state will not be allowed to impose the death penalty against you do.
00:41:52 You understand what that means?
Devon
00:41:55 So he's telling the kid the lawyers, telling the kid before he takes the IQ test.
00:42:00 Look, if they find out you're sufficiently stupid, they won't be able to give you the death penalty.
00:42:06 You understand?
00:42:06 What that means, yes.
00:42:09 Now, look, this kid is not smart.
00:42:13 He's not smart.
00:42:15 But a lot of people in this documentary are not smart.
00:42:19 Like I said, the the people involved in this whole fiasco.
00:42:24 Or trailer park trash for for the for the most part.
00:42:28 I mean, there's some that aren't so bad, but for the most part, so he is probably below.
00:42:35 Maybe even well.
00:42:36 Below average, but he's not ********.
00:42:46 Now the other thing that sticks out in the documentary.
00:42:50 Is they go?
00:42:51 That's that's his house.
00:42:52 That's his trailer.
00:42:54 So I wasn't.
00:42:54 I wasn't lying.
Speaker 11
00:42:56 They go to.
Devon
00:42:58 The his his parents trailer and they talked to their father about like, what do you think?
00:43:04 Do you think he did it?
00:43:06 And his father's girlfriend. So she has no real connection to this kid. She's just she's from the community.
00:43:14 But she is just like, she's not emotionally invested in the same way that the father is.
00:43:19 And I want you to pay special attention to how she's reacting to all this versus the father who also is not the smartest guy in.
00:43:27 The world.
Speaker 7
00:43:30 We don't know what the truth is, but when it really gets down to brass tacks.
00:43:38 His dad and I are going to look him square in the.
00:43:40 Eyes and say son did.
00:43:41 You do this.
00:43:43 Did was you even there?
00:43:46 That's when we will believe.
Speaker 32
00:43:48 Well, if he told me he did it.
Speaker 2
00:43:52 Which I don't believe he did.
00:43:54 But if he told me he did it.
Speaker 19
00:43:56 It has to do with time.
00:43:59 Suffer the consequences.
Speaker 7
00:44:00 If he admits to this, he would be strictly on his own.
00:44:05 We wouldn't even send him a dollar for a pack of cigarettes.
Speaker 19
00:44:08 No, no, you're wrong there.
Speaker 7
00:44:10 Yes, we would. No, but.
Speaker 19
00:44:11 No, I will.
Speaker 2
00:44:13 He's my son.
Speaker 19
00:44:16 I'll send you money.
Speaker 2
00:44:19 But he will have to do his time.
Speaker 7
00:44:24 I wouldn't give him a nickel.
Speaker 19
00:44:27 He's my son.
Speaker 7
00:44:27 Now we could be talking about.
Speaker 34
00:44:28 He's my flesh and blood.
Speaker 7
00:44:29 We could be talking about my son if my son did something that horrible, that no, I wouldn't give him a nickel.
00:44:39 Let him suffer.
Speaker 35
00:44:40 You can't turn your blood away.
Speaker 7
00:44:42 I don't know how you say you could, and we're going to have a.
00:44:45 Problem over this.
Devon
00:44:49 Now it it becomes obvious.
00:44:54 That she.
00:44:55 Doesn't quite think he's innocent, especially when they start making this little video to send to him in prison.
Speaker 36
00:45:03 Smoke too much?
Speaker 20
00:45:10 Yeah, he's legal to smoke meth.
Devon
00:45:16 You can tell she does not think that he's innocent and part of that is because she already told police something that they left.
00:45:24 Out of the documentary.
00:45:26 That for the couple of days after the murders took place, he was randomly having crying fits like he would just start sobbing for no reason.
00:45:39 And we'll get.
00:45:39 More into that, but the documentary doesn't mention that.
00:45:44 Documentary also doesn't really play in any significant fashion, the confession itself.
00:45:51 So we're going to take a look there.
00:45:52 They can all the the tapes exist.
00:45:54 In fact, one of the big contentions, one of the big things that they say in the documentary is oh it.
00:45:59 Was bullied for 12.
00:46:01 Hours they made this confession.
00:46:02 That's not true.
00:46:05 The timeline was they brought him in at like 10 o'clock 10:30 in the morning, talked to him a little bit, took a lunch break and then took him in the interrogation room.
00:46:17 Read him all of his rights.
00:46:18 It's all it's all recorded.
00:46:20 I've heard the audio myself.
00:46:22 I'm not going to play it like we.
00:46:23 We already have a lot to go through tonight.
00:46:25 I'm not going to play every little thing.
00:46:28 But you can find it.
00:46:28 It's not.
00:46:29 It's not hard to find.
00:46:30 They make sure he knows, like you can have a lawyer.
00:46:33 You're saying you don't want a lawyer and and again he doesn't sound smart.
00:46:38 But he doesn't sound ********.
00:46:41 And so they start to ask him about what happened.
00:46:46 With him, Damien and Jason.
00:46:53 Let me make this.
00:46:55 Audio a little bit better.
Speaker 37
00:46:59 You saw Damien strike Chris Myers in the head.
00:47:04 What did he hit him with?
Speaker 36
00:47:05 He hit him with his pierced and bruised model, looked real bad and then.
00:47:10 Jason Terrell.
Speaker 2
00:47:12 And hit.
Speaker 36
00:47:14 Steve branch.
Speaker 31
00:47:15 OK.
Speaker 36
00:47:16 And started on the sideline, the norm took off.
00:47:20 Michael Moore took off running, so I'll taste him and grab him and hold him to they get there and then I live.
Speaker 38
00:47:28 OK.
Speaker 37
00:47:29 All right then.
00:47:32 You get the boys back together.
00:47:35 Where are you at?
00:47:36 From the Creek?
00:47:41 By the service room.
00:47:43 OK, now when this when he hits the first bullet, where are they at?
00:47:48 When he when he hits him.
00:47:49 Are you in the woods?
00:47:52 You on the side of the big bow, you out in the field where you at?
Speaker 36
00:47:55 1000 woods.
Speaker 37
00:47:56 And woods.
00:47:58 OK, you've been down there in those woods before.
00:48:01 Can you describe to me what in those woods, what's the location where you were?
00:48:09 Is our pack.
00:48:09 You go down.
00:48:12 All right.
00:48:13 Where does that path go to?
Speaker 36
00:48:16 Close to the few clusterings type stuff where I was at.
Speaker 37
00:48:19 OK.
00:48:21 All right.
00:48:22 When he hits the first boy and then Jason, it's another boy and one takes off running.
00:48:30 Where does he run to?
Speaker 36
00:48:32 That one he runs out going out the.
00:48:36 Out of power not bound by.
Speaker 37
00:48:39 Which way does it go?
00:48:40 I mean, does he going back towards where the houses are?
Speaker 36
00:48:43 This goes back.
Speaker 37
00:48:43 Is he going to blue baking?
00:48:45 Is he going out towards the field?
00:48:47 Where is he running to?
Speaker 36
00:48:48 Those have.
Speaker 37
00:48:49 Wards. Houses.
Speaker 13
00:48:50 Where the pipe is, it goes across the water, yeah.
Speaker 36
00:48:55 I called him, brought him back.
Speaker 37
00:49:01 OK.
00:49:03 Getting back.
Devon
00:49:06 Now, one of the things you'll notice is he's trying to minimize his involvement in it.
00:49:11 While he's saying this, and obviously it doesn't sound like the cops are are bullying him.
00:49:17 You could say that it sounds like in some instances they're leading him a little bit the guy, but the guy is stupid.
00:49:23 You're you're having to get him.
00:49:25 To move along.
00:49:26 Alright, alright, you know.
00:49:28 So you.
00:49:28 Went down this way.
00:49:29 Is that what you're saying and at Nope.
00:49:31 He doesn't sound scared and we'll get more into this, this.
00:49:35 Is just one.
00:49:36 Of his.
00:49:36 That's right.
00:49:37 Just one of his confessions.
00:49:40 But he says, yeah, like they that essentially what happened was Damian and Jason said come out here with us.
00:49:50 And they were playing around in the Creek and these three boys showed up, he said.
00:49:55 They had, like, a clubhouse out in the forest.
00:49:57 That's why they were.
00:49:58 Out there.
00:49:59 And they called them over and they beat the **** out of them.
00:50:03 And raped them and killed them.
Speaker 37
00:50:08 A little bit later and all three boys are tied.
00:50:12 Is that right?
Devon
00:50:13 But the the the minimization is, he says after he went off and grabbed one of the kids that tried to get away because that's the other thing I remember in this case, there's three victims.
00:50:26 How is there going to be one killer?
00:50:28 Like there's three little kids on bikes.
00:50:31 And you managed.
00:50:32 To get all three of them by yourself, like none of them get away.
00:50:36 Yeah, they're little kids.
00:50:37 You can overpower them.
00:50:38 But I mean, come on.
00:50:38 They're also, they're little kids, they're squirrely.
00:50:41 And the second you you know, start beating the share of the first one, they're not going to just wait around.
00:50:46 For it to be their turn.
00:50:49 And so you got 3 victims.
00:50:53 It makes sense that you would have 3 attackers.
00:50:56 Another little fun fact that they leave out of the documentary.
00:51:01 Is that the kids were they were tied up.
00:51:05 And the knots used.
00:51:07 For each kid were different.
00:51:10 Which doesn't it prove that it was 3?
00:51:13 Different people tying the knots.
00:51:16 But that's one suggestion.
00:51:17 There's a lot of people that that, you know, in fact FBI cases.
00:51:23 That, that, that have used that because they say the not tying is like it's like handwriting you know because you do it, it's kind of automatic when you just tie a knot you tend to tie the same knot over and over and over again especially in a situation like this, you're not going to be sitting there trying to to be a Boy Scout and get a different merit badge for each kid.
00:51:43 But the documentary doesn't talk about that.
Speaker 36
00:51:47 Mila Tokman home.
Speaker 37
00:51:49 All right.
00:51:49 Have they got their clothes on when you say, hey, Dolly got them all.
00:51:57 The boy when Damien first hit the first bullet, did they have their clothes on then?
00:52:03 All right, when did they take their clothes?
Speaker 36
00:52:06 Right after they beat up all three.
00:52:09 Oh, and they went real bad.
Speaker 37
00:52:12 Them up real band and then they took their clothes off.
00:52:17 Then they tied them.
Speaker 36
00:52:18 Director I saw it and then I took out front and I went home and they called me and asked me how come I didn't stay?
Speaker 37
00:52:43 OK, now when it's going on when it's.
00:52:46 Taking place you under.
00:52:50 You saw somebody with a knife.
00:52:53 Had a knife.
00:52:53 Jason Jason had a knife.
00:52:56 What did he cut with a knife?
00:52:58 Would you see him cut or who?
00:52:59 Did you see him cut?
Speaker 36
00:53:00 Song logos.
Speaker 37
00:53:03 All right, where did you?
00:53:04 Cut him at.
Speaker 36
00:53:04 His government files.
Speaker 37
00:53:06 Cutting the pipes.
00:53:07 All right, now the wall was cut.
00:53:10 I understand.
00:53:10 Where was he?
00:53:11 Cut it.
00:53:14 On his bottom.
00:53:16 Was he faced down and he was?
00:53:19 Cutting on him.
00:53:19 Or he was he.
Speaker 13
00:53:21 You talking about bottom?
00:53:22 Do you mean right here?
00:53:23 And it's growing OK, so.
Speaker 37
00:53:24 One area you know what his penis is.
Speaker 36
00:53:28 The square was cut out.
Speaker 37
00:53:29 That's where he was cut.
Speaker 13
00:53:31 Which boy was that?
00:53:36 You're talking about the buyers boy again, OK?
Speaker 37
00:53:39 Are you?
00:53:40 But he was the one that was cut.
Speaker 36
00:53:42 That's when I said I'm cutting out.
Speaker 37
00:53:44 Do you know what Hennessy is?
00:53:46 Is that where he was cutting?
Speaker 36
00:53:49 Going down at nails on his sister.
Devon
00:53:57 Now, another fact that the documentary leaves out is that the public was not aware at this time that any of them had been sexually mutilated.
00:54:10 That it was only one that it.
00:54:12 Was sexually mutilated.
00:54:13 Or that it was the specific one.
00:54:16 That Jesse? No somehow knows.
00:54:20 Was the one that was sexually mutilated.
00:54:26 So you have him positively identify.
00:54:31 The kid that he that he claims that he that tried to get away, that he ran after grabbed.
00:54:37 And brought back to the group that kid was found on the opposite side of the bank.
00:54:43 The the the kid that was mutilated.
00:54:46 That's he, he positively.
00:54:48 Identifies the kid that was mutilated.
00:54:51 But the documentary makes no mention.
00:54:52 Of stuff like that.
00:54:53 Oh, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 36
00:54:59 Then he was home and down, but Jason had his ladies up and married.
00:55:07 Saying no, no, OK.
Speaker 37
00:55:09 OK, he had his legs up in the air.
00:55:13 What was to keep these little boys from running off?
00:55:19 With just our hands are tied.
00:55:21 What's to keep them from running off?
Speaker 36
00:55:24 They beat them up so bad.
00:55:26 Well, they can't hardly move.
Devon
00:55:30 Now that was another thing that he had mentioned earlier, that they had only tied up the hands that when the media was falsely reporting that they, they had been hog tied, they were actually tied in a way that they could.
00:55:41 Actually have of run away.
00:55:45 So he also got that part right.
Speaker 13
00:55:48 You have participated in this call, right?
00:55:52 How long have you been involved in it?
Devon
00:55:53 So this is the part where they try to they they they say that, oh, they're all crazy, they're all crazy talking about cults and stuff.
00:56:01 So this is another part of his confession.
00:56:03 That you never get to hear, but it's hinted at that.
00:56:06 Oh, yeah, they were talking about this.
00:56:08 It's all the IT was the crazy townspeople with their pitchforks.
00:56:12 They were bringing up Satanism, right?
00:56:15 Were they just pulled it?
00:56:16 Out of their *** that there was some some.
00:56:18 Kind of satanist stuff.
00:56:19 Going on well in his, in his confession he was saying that they used to go out.
00:56:23 To the woods.
00:56:24 And do stuff.
00:56:25 Now look.
00:56:26 Well, we'll we'll talk about this in.
00:56:28 A second some.
Speaker 11
00:56:29 Of this is going to sound far fetched.
Speaker 13
00:56:31 You have participated in this call, right?
00:56:34 How long have you been in?
Speaker 36
00:56:37 And it's about 3 months, OK.
Speaker 13
00:56:41 What is?
00:56:42 Tell me some of the things y'all do typically in the woods.
00:56:46 And as being in this cold.
Speaker 36
00:56:48 We go out.
00:56:51 Kill dogs and stuff and keep girls out there.
Speaker 13
00:56:54 What do you do with the girls when you're out there?
Speaker 36
00:56:56 Which proves stuff.
Speaker 13
00:56:58 It's just everybody take turns.
Speaker 36
00:57:01 All has ****** and stuff like that.
Speaker 37
00:57:04 When you kill a dog, what you do is here.
Speaker 36
00:57:07 We usually.
00:57:10 The look, bonfire and stuff.
Speaker 37
00:57:16 You're initiating somebody new.
00:57:18 Come into, come into a call.
00:57:21 What actually is done to initiate that person?
00:57:24 Into the cost.
Speaker 36
00:57:26 Like when he's like, you know, the animals.
00:57:30 You know, since he knows.
00:57:32 Know how to handle the make stuff that will kill itself, you know.
00:57:37 They can't handle it then.
00:57:38 They don't get here.
Speaker 37
00:57:40 OK, so he kills an animal.
00:57:43 You mentioned earlier that he may have to.
00:57:45 Eat part of that animal.
00:57:46 What part of the animal would?
Speaker 36
00:57:48 Eat part of this.
00:57:51 Made of his leg.
Speaker 37
00:57:52 Meat off his leg.
Speaker 36
00:57:56 If he if he can't need it, then he don't.
00:57:59 He don't get in.
Devon
00:58:02 So now a lot of people probably think, oh, that sounds crazy.
00:58:05 You know, they they they take.
00:58:07 Dogs out and kill them.
00:58:08 And then like, you know, to be part of their little gang, you have to eat some.
00:58:12 Dog meat or?
00:58:14 You know you're not in it like this.
00:58:15 This kid is starting to sound pretty unreliable.
00:58:17 Now I'm starting to believe the documentary and they take girls out and and **** them out there.
00:58:24 Like, that's what.
Speaker 22
00:58:25 What? What's this?
00:58:29 What's this here?
Devon
00:58:31 Uh oh.
00:58:36 And you bring up my notes here.
00:58:37 I'm about to read this.
00:58:39 This is this is this this is.
00:58:43 This is quite the lengthy thing here.
00:58:46 So it turns out.
00:58:50 One of Damian's cousins.
00:58:54 Came to the police.
00:58:59 And said gave this statement I was on Lakeshore Trailer Park with Damian Eckles when he killed the black Great Dane.
00:59:07 The dog was already sick and he hit the dog in the back of the head.
00:59:12 He pulled the intestines out.
00:59:13 Of the dog.
00:59:14 And started stomping the dog until blood came out of its mouth.
00:59:18 He was going to come back later.
00:59:20 With battery acid so he could burn the hair and skin off the dog's head.
00:59:25 He had two cat skulls, a dog skull and a rat skull that I already knew about.
00:59:31 He kept these skulls in his bedroom at Jack Eccles House in Lake Shore.
00:59:36 He was trying to make the eyeballs of the dog.
00:59:39 He killed pop out while he was stomping.
00:59:42 Damian had a camouflage survival knife to cut the guts out of the dog with.
00:59:50 Well, that's that's probably just another one of those.
00:59:53 Those crazy people, right?
00:59:55 That's just, you know that they're just they're they're, it's satanic panic.
00:59:58 They're just.
Speaker 22
01:00:01 Wait, what's this?
01:00:04 What's this? There's.
Devon
01:00:06 Oh, this is this can't be good.
01:00:10 There there's there's another account.
01:00:13 Of of him killing dogs or something.
01:00:17 Let's see here.
01:00:21 I've known Jason since he lived in Lakeshore.
01:00:25 I've known Dave Damian since I heard he got back from Oregon.
01:00:29 I've heard Jason say that Damian was in the Crazy house in Oregon.
01:00:33 Damian and Jason were always together.
01:00:36 They spent a lot of time in West Memphis at Walmart.
01:00:39 They sold.
01:00:40 They stole a lot of.
01:00:41 Though I always seen just Jason and Damien and Domini together walking around Lake Shore, there was a big black Great Dane dog at Lake Shore that I saw on the trail over the bridge to the right of you.
01:00:56 If you go over.
01:00:56 The bridge.
01:00:57 It was dead and its intestines were strung out of his ****.
01:01:01 The boy, named Adam, told me he heard Damien did it.
01:01:05 There's OK, There's there's now there's rumors that.
01:01:09 OK, well, there's now a couple of people saying that that he killed this kid or that this dog.
01:01:15 Alright, alright, OK.
01:01:16 But that's still that's still kind of crazy.
Speaker 22
01:01:20 What's this? What's what's this?
Devon
01:01:23 Obviously none of these things.
01:01:26 In the documentary.
01:01:29 This is from another person.
01:01:34 Heather states that Jason Baldwin has been her boyfriend.
01:01:38 All right here.
01:01:39 Here it is.
01:01:40 She claims this was this was the girlfriend.
01:01:44 Of the other kid, not Damian, but Jason.
01:01:48 And he claims that he was ramming sticks into Doug's faces.
01:01:54 Let's see here.
01:01:56 Let's see handwritten note. Heather states that at one time at the skating rink, Damian told her that he stuck a stick in a dog's eye and then jumped on it and burned it.
01:02:09 Well, let's probably just, you know, he's just he's emo kid.
01:02:12 He's trying to say edgy, creepy things to scare the other kid.
Speaker 22
01:02:16 Oh, what's this? What's this?
01:02:21 Oh, what is this?
Devon
01:02:24 So there's this overpass where everyone was saying that the.
01:02:30 The animal sacrifice stuff type things were happening.
01:02:34 And so the cops went down there and Damien's name is spray painted like all over the walls.
01:02:41 And they they actually do indeed find animal remains.
01:02:50 They find a dead dog next to like a fire pit.
01:02:55 And they find a bunch of dead pigeons.
01:02:57 And like another corpse they think might be a cat.
01:03:02 They find this little thing that they call an altar, but it looks like you know.
01:03:07 They had started some kind of fires up there, burned some candles and **** like that.
01:03:15 OK, well I'm I'm sure I'm sure that rest of this Jesse Kidd story.
01:03:19 It's just all satanic panic.
01:03:21 You know?
01:03:21 Like that's.
01:03:22 You know, those are just coincidences.
01:03:25 You know, especially the **** stuff, right?
01:03:28 The **** stuff.
01:03:29 It has to be.
01:03:30 I mean, you know, the just cause, the maybe they were mean to animals.
01:03:34 Maybe they killed a dog.
01:03:36 You know, who knows right?
01:03:37 Like, but, I mean, he's just trying to sound cool saying that he drags the girls into the into the woods and and they have sex with them.
Speaker 11
01:03:46 Right, right.
Devon
01:03:49 I mean guys like that, sorry, they could get girls.
01:03:52 Well, except for.
01:03:55 All three of them had girlfriends.
01:03:57 Damian had four girlfriends, one of whom was pregnant.
01:04:02 And this was actually in the documentary.
01:04:05 This is the ****** kid, right?
01:04:06 He's he's a ******.
01:04:09 But he somehow has a girlfriend.
01:04:10 And this is how the conversation goes.
01:04:13 Like, you know, he's not.
01:04:14 There's no way he's, like, sexually active.
01:04:16 In the woods with anyone.
Speaker 40
01:04:18 This paper might be my.
Speaker 21
01:04:21 You know it.
Speaker 2
01:04:23 They they get to go out and screw people and they can't.
Speaker 33
01:04:29 We are done.
01:04:30 I can't do that.
Speaker 41
01:04:31 Well, you will later.
Speaker 2
01:04:33 I will later.
01:04:35 How do you know?
Speaker 36
01:04:37 I mean, if I can get out, we will.
Speaker 30
01:04:39 I know that.
Speaker 36
01:04:39 But but if I don't get out, we won't.
Devon
01:04:44 So yeah.
01:04:48 It's not so far fetched that they're taking girls out to the woods, where they're doing their goofy look. No one's saying that he's actually opening up a porthole.
01:04:57 To hell, OK.
01:05:00 But he might be doing goofy.
01:05:03 You know, I I'm edgy, wicken guy.
01:05:06 Stuff in the forest and they very well could be bringing girls out.
01:05:10 And ******* them.
01:05:17 So here's a little more of the the confession here.
01:05:21 Wait, is this the one where?
Speaker 37
01:05:25 Did you see any of the boys actually killed?
01:05:32 OK.
01:05:33 Which one did you see killed?
Speaker 13
01:05:40 You're pulling to the buyers boy again, OK?
Speaker 37
01:05:43 How was he actually killed?
Speaker 36
01:05:50 Real bad life.
Speaker 37
01:05:54 What was he choking him with?
Speaker 36
01:05:58 Like a like a.
Speaker 37
01:06:16 Or was it just a plain white shirt where these shoes at now?
Speaker 36
01:06:23 A Friedman.
Speaker 37
01:06:27 Who is that buddy Lucas.
Devon
01:06:32 Ah, buddy Lucas.
01:06:36 Now all of a sudden.
01:06:38 There's somewhere else he.
01:06:40 Says that after they did the killing.
01:06:43 He gave the shoes he was wearing to a boy by the name of Buddy Lucas.
01:06:47 Well, certainly they can just find buddy Lucas and see if that check.
01:06:55 They they did.
01:06:56 In fact, they recorded the conversation with Buddy Lucas and listen to what buddy Lucas has to say.
Speaker 2
01:07:04 That he really, he said.
Devon
01:07:12 So this is the next day.
01:07:15 He goes to Jesse's house and Jesse starts crying and says that they hurt some boys and.
01:07:23 They killed him.
Speaker 2
01:07:27 I said.
01:07:27 What was your?
01:07:28 Yeah, what did you do?
01:07:29 I finally got it.
01:07:32 What did he do?
Speaker 23
01:07:37 OK.
Devon
01:07:38 You said I had a couple.
01:07:39 Of them in the head.
01:07:41 Again, we're so far we've got quite a few witnesses that are all under the same delusion about their friends, right?
Speaker 5
01:07:53 That's what he told you, Sir.
Speaker 37
01:07:55 And this is on Thursday morning.
Speaker 2
01:07:59 The tennis shoes he gave.
01:08:00 Us and that was it.
Speaker 33
01:08:01 Did they?
Speaker 37
01:08:01 Give you some shoes.
01:08:03 On that Thursday morning, OK and.
01:08:07 Describe to me how he gave.
Speaker 25
01:08:08 You those shoes.
Speaker 2
01:08:09 He he picked them up and start.
01:08:16 Broke out, sweat, crying and everything.
Devon
01:08:20 He broke out into a sweat and was crying.
01:08:23 When he gave.
01:08:24 Him the shoes and said he didn't want those shoes anymore.
Speaker 22
01:08:29 All right.
Devon
01:08:29 Well, that that adds up.
Speaker 22
01:08:34 So then they say.
Devon
01:08:35 Well, you know, he, you know, he just did.
01:08:38 He he was pressuring that, that in that confession.
01:08:43 Well, then, why did he confess 5 different times?
01:08:47 On five different occasions.
01:08:49 To various people, one of which I also have.
01:08:53 The recording of.
01:08:54 Where his defense lawyer is telling him to stop, and in fact this is like, well into the tape because like the first several minutes of the tape is his defense lawyer saying don't do this, don't do this.
01:09:07 You understand?
01:09:08 Do you understand you're doing don't do it.
01:09:10 You shouldn't.
01:09:10 Don't tell the story.
01:09:12 Don't do it.
01:09:13 I don't think you understand.
01:09:15 And he just says no.
01:09:16 I want to tell the story.
01:09:16 I want to tell the story.
Speaker 5
01:09:19 I'm advising you that I don't think it's a good idea for you to give this.
01:09:23 You understand that giving you the same advice.
Devon
01:09:36 And yet he keeps.
01:09:37 He keeps talking.
01:09:38 He keeps talking after his lawyer says.
01:09:41 I want you to understand this is a bad idea.
01:09:43 You shouldn't be doing this.
01:09:46 And then he adds another little piece to the puzzle.
Speaker 44
01:09:51 Little boys were murdered.
01:09:54 If you would on that day.
01:09:56 If you go to Robin Hood Woods.
01:10:01 OK and.
01:10:03 Who did you go there with?
Speaker 5
01:10:09 When you went there.
Speaker 44
01:10:10 What happened when you got the wood?
01:10:21 Did you have anything to drink, or did you drink any or anything like that or doing that?
Devon
01:10:32 So then you find out he was drinking whiskey and even.
01:10:37 It says the brand name.
01:10:42 Evan Williams.
01:10:44 Very classy whiskey.
01:10:48 OK, well, surely because he tells this story about he's drinking at Williams and and he's so disgusted by what's happening to the boys that he runs away and he smashes the bottle of Evan Williams on the overpass thing.
01:11:05 And leaves.
01:11:06 So there's defense lawyers are like, well, we're going to go right now and check.
01:11:11 And they find the fragments of an Evan Williams bottle where he said.
01:11:15 It would be.
01:11:17 Not only that, they talked to the woman who he said purchased it for him and she said, yeah, I bought him that bottle the day before the the killings.
01:11:29 So that adds up, but even worse than that.
01:11:35 After he was sentenced.
01:11:38 The cops that drove him.
01:11:42 And I'm going to bring this up on my end.
01:11:44 Here the the cops that drove.
01:11:47 Him to the prison.
01:11:49 So this is after he's, you know, he's already.
01:11:51 He's got nothing to lose at this point, like he's already been sentenced, he's going to jail.
01:11:56 You get this incident report.
01:12:01 And this incident report.
01:12:10 Jesse advice he had received a call from Jason Baldwin asking him if he wanted to go to West Memphis to meet some girls.
01:12:18 Jesse Damian and Jason met on a local Rd.
01:12:22 Jesse claimed that he had been drinking Evan Williams whiskey that missus Hutchinson had bought him.
01:12:28 So again, he he that's same that that that that's the same thing he was.
01:12:33 He was saying this other confession.
01:12:35 Jason and Daniel were drinking beer.
01:12:37 It was also stated that they smoked marijuana and you know, so forth and so forth.
01:12:44 The three young boys are seen from a distance.
01:12:47 When Damian told Jesse and Jason to hide, Jesse said they were hiding behind bushes when Damian grabbed Michael Moore.
01:12:55 The two other boys started hitting Damian, trying to help their friend and that is when Jesse and Jason.
01:13:02 Jumped out and helped Damien beat them.
01:13:06 Jesse advised.
01:13:07 He helped hold them down and beat them and had no part in ****** or killing them.
01:13:11 Jesse said the boys kept quiet by putting their hands over their mouths and used their shirts at at times to.
01:13:20 Put in their face and put their face in the ground.
01:13:23 Jesse was asked how the boys were kept under.
01:13:26 Control while being.
01:13:27 Raped, not tied up yet, he said.
01:13:30 Not tied up yet and he stated they were like little puppies.
01:13:33 When you whip a puppy and tell it to stay, it will.
01:13:38 And that's that's in quotes.
01:13:40 That's that's he's telling this to the people driving.
01:13:43 Him to jail.
01:13:46 They don't put that in the documentary.
01:13:49 So after he's been convicted, he's graphically and he goes into like he goes into detail about the killings again.
Speaker 11
01:14:03 When he does.
Devon
01:14:06 During his trial at the with the advice of counsel, recant briefly.
01:14:14 They gave him a polygraph.
01:14:17 He fails the polygraph.
01:14:20 This is the polygraph report.
01:14:23 Now, polygraphs are not admissible in court, so.
01:14:26 Again, it just.
01:14:26 Is what it is.
01:14:29 These are the questions that that the guy giving him the report or the the test say that he was being deceptive on.
01:14:36 Have you ever been in Robin Hood Hills?
01:14:38 His answer was no.
01:14:39 We already know that's a lie.
01:14:41 Have you ever took part in devil worship?
01:14:43 The answer is no.
01:14:45 And he apparently lied on that one.
01:14:47 Have you ever attended a devil?
01:14:49 Worship ceremony in the Tyrell Twist area, he said no and it lied.
01:14:54 According to this test on that one, are you involved with the murder of those three boys?
01:14:59 He said no and there was deception detected on that one.
01:15:03 And finally do.
01:15:04 You know who killed those?
01:15:05 Three boys, he said no.
01:15:07 And is the opinion of this paragraph examiner that this subject recorded significant responses indicative of deception when he answered the above listed relevant questions in?
01:15:18 The manner noted.
01:15:19 Now, look, polygraph tests are not.
01:15:21 It's not a pseudoscience.
01:15:22 They give you, Paul.
01:15:23 I mean, the federal government gives its employees to in order to keep your.
01:15:30 You have to take polygraph tests.
01:15:32 All the time.
01:15:33 And so they clearly believe in it.
01:15:36 And and use it all the time.
Speaker 11
01:15:43 Now here is.
Devon
01:15:45 Another letter.
01:15:48 This was written a this is a a letter from one of Jesse's cellmates.
01:15:55 That was written to the prosecutor saying this guy is ******* scary.
01:16:01 You need to keep him behind bars.
01:16:04 He he, he's he.
01:16:06 Admitted that he killed those little boys.
01:16:11 Yeah, he this guy belongs in jail, so his cellmate wrote a letter to the DA telling him that this guy ******* freaks me out.
01:16:23 Again, that wasn't in the documentary.
01:16:26 Not at all.
01:16:29 So Next up we have testimony.
01:16:33 From Marlene Hollingsworth.
01:16:36 Because she claims and as well as everyone else in the car with her.
01:16:42 So it's not just her with an axe to grind.
01:16:45 You know the.
01:16:46 The head suspect, Damien, who we're going to get into in a second.
01:16:51 Damian has has has.
01:16:54 Maintained that I was on the phone talking to all my girlfriends that night.
01:17:00 The only problem is not even his defense lawyers decided to use that alibi, which would have been a great alibi to have if it could have been backed up by the girls he was supposedly talking to, but unfortunately, not only do they not back it up, they actually back up the idea that during the time frame that the murders took place.
01:17:20 He was not around.
01:17:21 They in fact called his house trying to a couple of them, trying to get a hold of him.
01:17:25 He was gone and when he and then when he was available later that night, like around.
Speaker 11
01:17:29 1:00 he said. Ohh I.
Devon
01:17:31 Was out walking around.
01:17:35 Well, he said he's never been to that area where the bodies were found.
01:17:39 That's a lie.
01:17:39 His former apartment, when his parents used to.
01:17:43 We'll get into that whole situation, too, when his parents used to live there, he lived in an apartment complex that was so close that the crime seemed.
01:17:53 Paint from where they found it was like just a few yards from the entrance to the apartment complex.
01:17:59 He was very familiar with the area, so he lied about.
01:18:04 Of course, that's not in the in the documentary at all.
01:18:07 And you had this woman.
01:18:09 Say that she saw him.
01:18:12 At the side of the road.
01:18:14 Right next to where the bodies were found and the right time frame with mono over his close.
01:18:21 And not only does she say this, everyone in the car says this.
Speaker 6
01:18:27 And my husband went with me and my children went to and on our way coming down like, I'm gonna go to look.
01:18:35 I saw Dominique and Daniel coming down the street.
Speaker 45
01:18:39 What time was?
Speaker 6
01:18:40 This this was exactly 2013.
01:18:44 We have to watch.
01:18:46 OK, they they can.
01:18:47 Don't call me no.
01:18:49 And he will not go.
Speaker 45
01:18:51 You said one time that they were muddy all over.
Speaker 6
01:18:53 They well, they did have doors on them.
01:18:55 If they did, they did have what they was.
Speaker 14
01:18:57 Which way were they walking?
Speaker 6
01:19:00 They was coming back up toward Lake show this one.
Speaker 45
01:19:03 Because they were headed back West, as you were going east on the South Service Rd.
Speaker 23
01:19:08 Right.
Speaker 45
01:19:09 They were walking.
Devon
01:19:12 So the timeline adds up.
01:19:14 Now, there are some people that that are in love with this guy.
01:19:18 Really that say Oh well, she's saying that he's with his girlfriend at the time, who was four months pregnant and she denies ever being.
01:19:29 With him that night.
01:19:31 And that might be very well possible.
01:19:34 What these what this woman and her family might have seen?
01:19:39 Was his friend who also looks different in his mug shot.
01:19:43 Notice how he doesn't look like the clean cut little boy?
01:19:46 No, he's got long hair.
01:19:49 And doesn't and honestly has the build of a girl like that guy does not like swear to God looks.
01:19:55 In the dark, walking with somewhat the side of the road as you're driving by could easily be mistaken for.
01:20:00 This guy's girlfriend.
01:20:02 Or his girlfriend is with him.
01:20:04 Who knows?
01:20:05 But he has been placed.
01:20:08 At least by someone now look, anyone of these things, because most of the circumstantial here, you know or eyewitness type stuff, right?
01:20:17 But we're just getting started.
01:20:23 So then you have a girl.
01:20:27 Say that she hears him bragging.
01:20:30 At the roller rink because it's back in 93 when those still existed.
01:20:34 At the roller rink, he's bragging that he killed the kids.
Speaker 34
01:20:40 You relate to me that there was an occasion that you were at the skating rink here in West Memphis after the murders.
01:20:48 OK.
01:20:48 Just quickly tell me what you remember of that.
Speaker 3
01:20:52 Well, they were going around bragging that they killed the three boys and.
Speaker 34
01:20:58 When you say they.
01:20:59 Be specific for me.
Speaker 3
01:21:01 Damien Eagles and Jason Baldwin and Jackson with Kellen.
Speaker 22
01:21:07 So she says.
Devon
01:21:11 And they were going around bragging that they.
01:21:13 Killed the little boys.
Speaker 11
01:21:16 Well, that that was.
Devon
01:21:17 Just that's just one girl, right?
01:21:18 It's the satanic panic, right?
01:21:20 All these people, they're so everyone so far that's been, you know, that's been naming this guy and his friends.
01:21:26 They're all swept up in this satanic panic because of the crazy Christians, right?
01:21:31 Right.
01:21:33 Just like these two other girls.
01:21:36 That said that they heard overheard.
01:21:37 Him bragging that he.
01:21:38 Did it and a baseball game?
Speaker 38
01:21:41 Would you state your name for the jury?
Speaker 41
01:21:44 Christy van Bickle.
Speaker 38
01:21:46 And do like you just did and speak up best you can.
01:21:49 OK, Christy.
01:21:52 Are you nervous?
01:21:54 Alright, OK.
01:21:56 Did you hear somebody?
01:21:59 Say something about the murder of the three little.
Speaker 41
01:22:03 Yes, Sir.
01:22:03 I heard Damien Nichols say that he killed the three boys.
Speaker 38
01:22:07 Where were you?
01:22:08 Was he saying that to you or what were?
Speaker 41
01:22:09 You doing?
01:22:10 I was walking by with my friend.
Devon
01:22:15 All right, so just did another little girl just she swept up and they satanic panic.
01:22:22 And now you got this one a different, different little girl.
Speaker 2
01:22:25 Witnesses requested not.
Speaker 37
01:22:27 To be photographed.
Speaker 38
01:22:29 Jody, I want to direct your attention to May of 1993, after the murders of the three little boys.
01:22:37 Did you have occasion to be at the softball field and and curate comment in?
01:22:43 Regard to the murder.
01:22:46 Tell the jury.
01:22:47 First, tell the jury first what you heard.
Speaker 3
01:22:51 He said I killed the little boys and before I turn myself in, then I'm going to kill two more and I.
01:22:56 Already have one of them picked out?
Devon
01:23:00 So there you go, you might think ohh he's just being he's just being edgy.
01:23:04 Ohh, we'll see how long you keep that opinion.
01:23:09 So then he tells another one of his friends again, he's the all everyone that this person, this guy knows everyone.
01:23:17 They're all just making it up, all of them.
01:23:20 They're all just saying that that that, Oh yeah, he said that he he did.
01:23:25 But they're all just part of this.
01:23:26 This mass hysteria that's taking place in this the satanic panic.
Speaker 25
01:23:35 Right.
01:23:36 And he said that he killed him and that.
01:23:40 You know, face to face with local and he was really drunk, really drunk.
01:23:49 About what time was this this time?
Devon
01:23:52 So he he admits to killing him and he said he was real drunk.
01:23:56 He was real drunk.
01:23:58 And this isn't a a good friend of his from school.
01:24:03 That said, yeah, we used to be, like, really good friends.
01:24:05 Then he got into this Satan **** and got weird, so we stopped hanging out.
01:24:09 But after all this stuff started going around and and people thought it was him and people knew I used to be good friends with him while we were all drunk.
01:24:18 Someone said, well, you should ask him if he did it because.
01:24:20 Everyone else was too afraid, so he did.
01:24:23 And again, you can say, oh, you're just trying to be edgy.
01:24:25 Still just trying to be edgy.
01:24:26 Oh, yeah, of course.
01:24:27 I killed those kids cause I'm edgy, boy, alright.
01:24:37 Now, actually. Well, I'll play this again. This is a phone call after you've heard this kid's.
01:24:43 Voice a few.
01:24:44 Times I was actually going to put a.
01:24:47 Because he has a very.
01:24:50 Specific way of talking and look this I don't know.
Speaker 22
01:24:53 But I'm just.
Devon
01:24:54 Throwing it out there because I found it while I was doing everything else.
01:24:57 There's a a tape that the police made of a phone call of someone calling up and just saying I killed those three kids and you're not.
01:25:05 Gonna do anything about it and he hangs up.
01:25:08 And I wish I'd had.
01:25:11 I wish I'd had his.
Speaker 33
01:25:11 That is.
Devon
01:25:17 I wish I had, like his voice.
01:25:18 Let me bring.
01:25:19 Let me bring that up.
01:25:19 Real quick when?
01:25:20 I'm at 3011 alright.
Speaker 22
01:25:26 Just so you.
Devon
01:25:27 Can you can you can compare it all right.
01:25:32 So I should have listened to his voice.
01:25:35 And then you're going to compare it to the voice on the tape.
Speaker 19
01:25:41 This movie is is pretty much like Second Salem.
01:25:47 Because everything happens there, every crime, no matter what it is, it's blamed on Satanism.
Devon
01:25:53 He has a cadence to his voice that's real specific.
01:25:56 Again, I don't know you're throwing this out here.
01:26:11 Now it's hard to hear on that, but he said I'm the one that killed the three kids.
01:26:15 What you going to do about it?
Speaker 44
01:26:20 I don't want.
Devon
01:26:26 So you know, you'd be the judge.
01:26:30 You might believe it more here in a second.
01:26:35 So you might be thinking yourself while you're a part of the reason why they're blaming this innocent kid.
01:26:42 That the thank God, those Jews from New York came down and made this documentary to help help, you know, raise public awareness.
01:26:51 It's because his name is Damien.
01:26:53 I mean, it's kind of a bad name and you're just people are going to.
Speaker 11
01:26:56 Associate that with.
Devon
01:26:58 Wait. He he named himself.
01:27:01 Named himself Damian.
01:27:03 He legally changed his name to.
01:27:07 To Damian that that's not the pet name his parents gave him.
Speaker 22
01:27:15 That's odd.
Devon
01:27:17 Let's uh.
01:27:18 Let's hear what's well.
01:27:20 I'm sure there's a perfect logical explanation for it.
01:27:22 Let's, let's.
01:27:23 Let's hear what it is.
Speaker 24
01:27:25 Why did you change your name?
Speaker 19
01:27:27 I was very involved in the Catholic Church.
01:27:31 And we were going over different names of the Saints.
01:27:34 Michaels was where I went to church at.
01:27:36 And we heard about this guy from the Hawaiian Hawaiian Islands, father Damian, that took care of leopards until he finally caught the disease itself and died.
Speaker 24
01:27:50 Was that the reason you chose Damian as your first name?
Speaker 19
01:27:53 Yes, it is OK.
Speaker 24
01:27:54 Did the choosing of the name Damien have anything to do with any type of horror movies?
01:28:00 Satanism, Cultism any of that nature?
Speaker 19
01:28:02 Nothing whatsoever.
Speaker 24
01:28:05 Right after the time period that you were really into the Catholic religion, did you start focusing in another particular religion?
Devon
01:28:13 So see, it was just he was just being a good Catholic boy.
01:28:17 You know, there was like, this this father Damien in Hawaii that that healed leopards.
01:28:23 And he was like, yeah, you know, that's that seems like a good name.
01:28:26 I'm gonna.
01:28:28 It's everything else is going to be coincidence that I I chose the name of the Antichrist and and very in movies that were very.
01:28:36 Popular around this time.
01:28:39 I just.
01:28:39 I just picked that name, but it was and and and then I became a witch.
01:28:44 Right then I became involved in all this stuff.
01:28:47 But when I picked the.
Speaker 11
01:28:48 It's just a coincidence, you know, but I.
01:28:51 Was just a really good.
Devon
01:28:52 Catholic boy.
01:28:53 That's all.
01:28:55 And then, you know, after, after after being a Catholic and.
01:28:59 And choosing the name Damian because you know Catholic, you know, that's when I I got into this Wicca stuff.
Speaker 24
01:29:08 And introduced the book never on a broomstick.
01:29:13 Are you familiar with that particular book?
Speaker 19
01:29:15 Yes, I am.
Speaker 24
01:29:16 Where did you get that book, Danny?
Speaker 19
01:29:19 And the library in Crittenden County.
01:29:21 All the books that they were getting tired of or had for a long time, I guess they all had them sitting on a rack out front that they were selling for $0.10 each. So I got him. Did you?
Speaker 24
01:29:33 Underline any of those portions in the book.
Speaker 19
01:29:35 No, that was done when I got it.
01:29:37 I think it was because somebody had a report to do or something because all during the book, there's like little notes.
Devon
01:29:43 Yeah, a report on human sacrifice, which was the the the stuff that was underlined, you know, just someone had a book report on and I guess this is the second, but I don't, I don't know.
01:29:54 Where it came from.
Speaker 19
01:29:56 The flight from the 1600s and the out.
Speaker 24
01:29:59 Side margin.
01:30:00 So what was that book kind of like a history of of witchcraft and how it's developed over the ages?
Speaker 21
01:30:06 You're familiar with a fellow named Alistair Crowley.
Speaker 19
01:30:10 I know who he is.
Speaker 21
01:30:10 Heard him.
Speaker 19
01:30:11 I know who he is.
Speaker 21
01:30:15 Kindly professors, he's he's a.
01:30:18 A noted author in the field of satanic worship, right.
Speaker 19
01:30:22 I've never I I know who he is, but I've never saw any.
01:30:24 Of his books personally.
Speaker 21
01:30:26 Not really much of A follower of his.
Speaker 19
01:30:28 I would have read him if I would have saw him.
01:30:30 But I just never.
Speaker 21
01:30:32 But Alistair proudly is that guy that, based on his writings, believes in human sacrifice.
Speaker 19
01:30:41 He also believed he was God though, so.
Speaker 21
01:30:43 OK.
01:30:44 And he also had writings that indicated.
01:30:49 That children were the best type of human sacrifice, correct?
Speaker 19
01:30:53 Yes, Sir.
Speaker 21
01:30:55 But Alistair Crowley doesn't have any particular significance to you.
Speaker 19
01:31:00 I know who he is.
01:31:02 I've read a little bit about him, but I've never read.
01:31:04 Anything by him?
Speaker 21
01:31:06 Let me show you.
01:31:09 Copy of documents.
01:31:11 Do you recognize that?
01:31:14 What is that?
Speaker 19
01:31:18 It was this paper I had on different.
Devon
01:31:23 You want to know why he's doing that?
01:31:26 That's what they're showing him.
01:31:28 They're showing him a paper that they took from his cell.
Speaker 11
01:31:32 Where he's writing.
Devon
01:31:34 Like room codes or whatever the **** this is.
01:31:37 And one of the the things is, is that he wrote is Alistair Crowley.
01:31:42 And this is from.
01:31:43 This is from him while this after he's arrested so.
Speaker 11
01:31:50 And he's acting like.
Devon
01:31:50 Oh, who the hell I've heard of?
01:31:52 Him, I guess.
Speaker 5
01:31:52 If it was this.
Speaker 19
01:31:54 Paper I had on different alphabets for like translations where you could write things that nobody could read and this was one of the forms.
Speaker 21
01:32:01 OK.
01:32:02 Well, where did you have that at?
01:32:05 When did you do that?
01:32:06 Write those things out.
Speaker 19
01:32:08 Sometime before I was arrested again.
Speaker 21
01:32:11 Are you sure?
01:32:12 That you hadn't done those since you.
01:32:14 Were arrested while you've been staying in jail.
Speaker 19
01:32:17 I don't know my hand.
Speaker 21
01:32:18 Well, what?
01:32:19 Whose names are written on that document?
Speaker 19
01:32:23 Mine jasons, my sons.
01:32:26 One that says Alistair Crowley and.
Speaker 21
01:32:28 Wait, wait, who?
Speaker 19
01:32:30 Alistair Crowley.
Speaker 21
01:32:31 Now this is a document that you've written while you've been waiting in jail for trial, right?
Speaker 19
01:32:36 If you say so.
Speaker 21
01:32:37 Well, you wrote it correct that you're writing.
01:32:42 You recall when you wrote it, not really what I'm going to ask you is that this, Damon and Seth, as Ryan Eccles, your son.
01:32:50 He wasn't born until after you were placed in jail, correct?
01:32:54 So if you've got his name listed on this document, then this document had to be generated after he was born, right?
01:33:01 So this is something you've written.
01:33:02 Since you've been sitting in here in jail.
01:33:05 Waiting for trial.
Devon
01:33:09 Ohh, just that's just not not a big deal.
01:33:12 Not a big deal.
01:33:13 Not a big deal.
01:33:14 He's definitely not like the Alistair Crowley.
01:33:16 Satanism child sacrifice stuff.
01:33:18 Not definitely not.
01:33:23 In fact, so here's here.
01:33:25 This is it's stunning that they they left this in and I almost feel like because you got and I'll explain.
01:33:32 Why here in a second?
01:33:34 But almost like this was like the final **** you in the documentary.
01:33:38 They literally ended the documentary.
01:33:40 This is after.
01:33:42 Is after he's been convicted, he's going to jail.
01:33:46 And this is the last clip they play of him in the documentary.
Speaker 19
01:33:51 I knew from when I was real small that.
01:33:54 People are going to know who I was.
01:33:55 I always have that feeling, but I just never knew how they were going to learn.
01:34:03 I kind of enjoy it because now even after I die, people are going to Remember Me forever.
01:34:08 They're going to talk about me for years, people.
01:34:11 In West Memphis will tell their kids stories.
01:34:14 It'll be like.
01:34:16 So like I'm the West Memphis boogie man.
01:34:19 Little kids will be looking under their bed before they go to bed.
01:34:22 Damien might be under there.
Devon
01:34:26 Yeah, that sounds like a totally normal thought to have after being wrongly convicted for killing kids.
01:34:33 Is being excited that you're going to be known forever because you've always known since you were a kid.
01:34:38 That you're going to be known forever.
01:34:40 We're going to get.
01:34:41 Into that a little bit too.
01:34:46 Now before that, I just want to point out he also failed his polygraph test.
01:34:55 These are the notes from the guy who gave the test.
01:34:59 The questions that deception was detected on.
01:35:05 At anytime Wednesday or Wednesday night.
01:35:08 Were you in Robin Hood hills?
01:35:10 No deception detected.
01:35:13 Were you present when those boys were killed?
01:35:15 No deception detected.
01:35:18 Did you kill any of those three boys?
01:35:20 No deception detected.
01:35:23 Do you know who killed those three boys?
01:35:25 No deception detected.
01:35:28 Do you suspect anyone having killed those three boys?
01:35:34 That is, in the opinion of this polygraph examiner, the subject recorded significant responses indicative of deception when he answered the above listed relevant questions.
Speaker 22
01:35:44 And then he has this little note.
Devon
01:35:47 In the post test interview and this is so, this is because he's.
01:35:50 Not this guy's not a dumb guy.
01:35:52 He's actually quite smart.
01:35:55 He kind of thinks that maybe he's failed the test.
01:35:58 And after the test, the examiner is talking to him in the post test interview. The subject denied any involvement in the case after approximately 45 minutes, I asked the subject what he was afraid of. He replied the electric chair.
01:36:12 He then said he'd like the the hospital in Little Rock.
01:36:16 He said that he'd been treated there for manic depression after a short period of time.
01:36:21 The subject ceased to deny his involvement.
01:36:26 Admission through absence of denials, in other words, he stopped saying he didn't do it, but he didn't.
01:36:30 He didn't admit that he did it.
01:36:32 He then said I will tell you all about.
01:36:34 It if you will.
01:36:35 Let me talk to my mother.
01:36:37 Detective Ridge brought in his mother into the office to talk to him.
01:36:42 After talking to his mother, he again denied involvement in the murders.
01:36:45 After approximately 20 minutes, I asked, you're never going to tell anyone about this, but your doctor are you?
01:36:51 He replied.
01:36:56 Well, the reason.
01:37:00 It's important to note that he was.
01:37:02 In that hospital.
Speaker 11
01:37:06 Is another thing, the.
Devon
01:37:07 Documentary left out was after he was convicted.
01:37:12 They wanted to try to spare him.
01:37:14 The death penalty.
01:37:16 And so as a last ditch effort.
01:37:20 They released his psychiatric records.
01:37:26 Several 100 pages long.
01:37:29 It's known as.
01:37:32 What was it? It's.
01:37:36 I forget what it's called, but it's.
01:37:37 You can find it on the Internet.
01:37:39 It's it's several 100 pages long.
01:37:42 It's very unruly documented, cause a lot of it, just some procedural crap.
01:37:47 But thanks to Devin Snack, doing all the research for you, you're going to hear all the good bits there.
01:37:54 He's just a good boy, right?
01:37:56 He didn't do nothing wrong.
01:37:59 You know, we can ignore all this stuff about him killing animals. Maybe that that's that's probably all made-up right, like and definitely like the **** stuff.
01:38:07 Like all that stuff, that's all just crazy from that ****** Jesse.
01:38:10 He just made it up and then kept repeating it over and over and over again for no ******* reason, even after he'd been convicted, told his cellmates.
01:38:20 In such a ****** ** way that it freaked him out and made him write.
01:38:23 A letter to the DA like me.
Speaker 11
01:38:27 It's just all made-up.
Devon
01:38:31 Right.
01:38:35 Or if we have to add the Sheriff's Department that searched his home because he has a record that's feeling too he's, it's not.
01:38:43 This wasn't like the first time this good.
01:38:45 Little boy was.
01:38:46 Picked up, he had a record and one of the times he was arrested and the arrest report it says they found a dog skull in his bedroom.
Speaker 11
01:38:55 OK, so he had a dog.
Devon
01:38:56 School in his bedroom, a statement from his mother.
01:39:01 Is says that he had a dog skull and it stink.
01:39:07 OK so.
Speaker 22
01:39:07 That means it's.
Devon
01:39:08 Like fresh.
01:39:08 It's got like meat on it, and she told him to put it outside.
Speaker 22
01:39:15 All right. So that's.
Devon
01:39:17 That's his mom saying, hey.
01:39:18 And it had a ******* dog.
01:39:19 Skull. Nothing weird about that.
01:39:22 So here where we.
01:39:23 Go through this is this crime took place.
01:39:27 In I guess 1993.
01:39:30 So between 1991 and 1992, when he was still in high school, Damien Echols was repeatedly suspended for a range of offenses.
01:39:43 The case file, dated July 1st, 1992, reports that quote he admits to having been suspended 7 times this past semester for inciting fights at.
01:39:53 School this is this is all from like his.
01:39:56 This was all.
01:39:59 Information gained by looking at his psychiatric records.
01:40:04 Starting small fires states. In one fight, he almost gouged out the victim's eyes.
01:40:13 A similar report in 1992 states he's been suspended 7 times to negative due to negative behaviors in the classroom.
01:40:20 Information does suggest that Damien has set fire to his academic classroom on 2 occasions that he has also been truant, engaged in physical confrontations while on school grounds, and has often threatened to put hexes.
01:40:34 On school instructors.
01:40:37 OK, so far, you know, he's just he's just a troublemaker, right?
01:40:42 In May of 1992, Damien Echols and his underage girlfriend, Deanna Holcomb ran away together because Deanna's parents forbade her to continue seeing him.
01:40:53 They were discovered in a vacant mobile home at Lakeshore Lakeshore Trailer Park on the night of May 19th.
01:40:59 During the arrest, Echols made death threats against the police officer.
01:41:04 And Deanna's father, echoes later told the case worker that he and Deanna had made a suicide pact, that they couldn't be together.
01:41:13 Alright, alright, so he's he's just an emo kid, right?
01:41:17 Echos was charged with burglary, breaking and entering and disorderly conduct, sexual misconduct and terroristic threatening.
01:41:23 He was held at the Craighead County Juvenile Detention Center in Jonesborough for two weeks.
01:41:32 Holcomb spent the next two weeks at Mid South Hospital.
01:41:36 This is the the woman he ran, the girl he ran away with her relationship with Echoes ended for a good after the runaway incident on May.
01:41:45 11th of 1993 Holcomb told investigators. So she this is the girl that he ran away with called up when all this stuff was happening, yet another person right caught up in the in the insanity.
01:41:57 And tells the police Damien once told me that he never killed.
01:42:00 Anyone but wondered?
01:42:01 What it would feel like, and she.
01:42:02 That creeped her out.
01:42:04 So she thought they might want to know that.
01:42:08 And this is another quote from her.
01:42:10 I ran away with Damien.
01:42:12 I went to a hospital in Memphis.
01:42:14 And he went to one in Little Rock.
01:42:17 I found out that he planned.
01:42:18 To kill our first born.
01:42:20 If it was a girl.
01:42:21 Damien would not do it.
01:42:23 He is a coward and I would have or and would have tried to get me to do it.
01:42:27 That's what I knew.
01:42:28 He was nuts and I had nothing else to do with him.
01:42:32 So that's just her talking.
01:42:33 Who knows how she thinks that, or whatever.
01:42:36 We don't know.
01:42:37 That's just a quote from her.
01:42:40 An Oregon social workers intake summary report on Damian and family dated because so his family thinks alright, he's he's a troublemaker and they move him.
01:42:49 Up to Oregon.
01:42:53 Because we'll get more into this in a second.
01:42:56 But his his mom, his mom, remarries his real dad, and they and they move.
01:43:01 And they move him up to or.
01:43:04 Then the family takes him to a mental institution in Oregon and say that they fear that he's going to hurt himself or others, and they they're afraid to have him in the house.
01:43:16 At the Oregon social workers intake summary report on Danny and the family date, August 17th, 1992. So this is this is less than a year before the murders.
01:43:30 Similarly, letter Jerry drivers belief that Damian, this is a quote Damian and several other of his associates are involved in a satanic cult.
01:43:39 So again this is his his parents.
01:43:43 Told the social worker that he's involved in a satanic cult.
01:43:48 And said quote Damien and his girlfriend were planning to have a child so they could offer as a.
01:43:52 Sacrifice to Satan.
01:43:55 This is in.
01:43:56 This is in the caseworkers notes.
Speaker 34
01:44:02 All right.
Devon
01:44:03 After he voiced suicidal.
01:44:08 Idea ideation to folks at the detention center saying he's going to hang himself.
01:44:15 Echoes was sent to E Arkansas Regional Mental Health Center.
01:44:20 OK, So what happened was.
01:44:23 He get he finally gets out of the Oregon.
01:44:26 Mental, institutional stuff.
01:44:28 And decides he wants to go live with his step dad back in Arkansas.
01:44:35 Well, there's a reason why his mom.
01:44:37 Divorced the stepdad and went back to.
01:44:40 The real dad.
01:44:41 And that reason was.
01:44:44 His stepdad was molesting the Damien's sister.
01:44:51 And Damian, knowing this because it's in, it's in the psychiatric record.
01:44:55 He's telling his doctors about it, decided to go live with his sister's molester, who has no blood relationship with.
01:45:03 So he's.
01:45:04 He's now been out of 1 institution.
01:45:08 Living with a child molester.
01:45:10 He's got all these issues.
01:45:11 He'll get so much better too.
01:45:16 So then.
01:45:19 A personality inventory report from June of 1992 described Eccles as.
01:45:24 Characterized by impulsive hostility and apprehensive mistrust of others, and an edgy defensiveness against criticism, fearing that others will dominate and possibly brutalize him, he puts forward a social, blunt and aggressive public posture.
01:45:40 He fantasizes being all powerful so as to block others.
01:45:44 From possessing the means to be belittling and harmful.
01:45:48 He believes that only alert vigilance and vigorous counteraction can prevent malice of others the desire to gain power and demean others springs from an animosity and a wish to vindicate past grievances.
01:46:03 Although frequently unsuccessful in these aims, this teenager believes that past degradations may be undone.
01:46:09 By provoking fear and intimidation in others.
01:46:15 Staff also expressed concern that Eccles was experiencing hallucinations.
01:46:21 There's another quote.
01:46:22 This is from the file.
01:46:23 The patient appeared to be sniffing the air around him as if he were responding to an external stimulus when he was questioned as to what he was doing, the patient gave an inappropriate.
01:46:35 Smile and was unwilling to discuss what he was doing upon several occasions.
01:46:41 The patient also cut his eyes in One Direction or the other, as if he were hearing or thinking of something before he spoke again.
01:46:49 It did appear to this social worker as though the client was responding to an outside stimulation.
01:46:56 So they think that he's hallucinating because he's acting kind.
01:46:59 Of like a weirdo.
01:47:00 A treatment plan documented another strange behavior.
01:47:04 Quote trying to suck blood.
01:47:07 Off peers who have scratched themselves.
01:47:13 That's right.
01:47:16 That, and there's more of that.
01:47:18 That is all throughout the ******* file.
01:47:21 That's not just like one time.
01:47:23 He's obsessed with drinking blood.
01:47:27 Damien's mother later told the social worker that she was, quote, convinced that he is into activity such as witchcraft and is very concerned about the quality.
Speaker 39
01:47:36 Of friends that.
Devon
01:47:36 He developed while living in Arkansas for this reason reason she felt coming to Oregon would be a new beginning for him.
01:47:43 So then the.
01:47:44 The the parents called the cops on him.
01:47:48 They get and this is in September of 92. So this after he's already spent time in the mental institution they call the cops and the the cops have them committed. This is all still in Oregon.
01:48:05 Let's see here.
01:48:08 And the ER, the ER nurse said that that they were worried about him doing harm to himself or others.
01:48:17 And then after they they released him from the the hospital in Saint Vincent, Oregon, he got on a bus because he was 18 and he got on a bus, went back into Arkansas to live with his pedophile stepdad.
01:48:36 And then he was also he was immediately arrested for violating probation.
01:48:40 He was already on.
01:48:43 It gets so much better alright.
01:48:48 All right, so here's this is 1992, September right after he gets back to Arkansas.
01:48:54 One of the kids in the detention hall cut his wrist.
01:48:57 Damian grabbed his arm and began to suck the blood, smear it all over his body and said he's a devil worshipping vampire.
01:49:08 He also told staff he had threatened to kill his father and eat him.
01:49:13 For the safety and well-being of other residents, Damian has been asked to go to his room. He has been kept there until he has been picked up for court.
01:49:24 Nothing wrong with this kid, right?
01:49:26 Totally normal.
01:49:30 Another nurse made some notes quote, continuing to make bizarre sounds at Piers continues to talk of Satanism to peers.
01:49:39 Continues laughing strangely and getting peers to feed into his Satanism.
01:49:47 All right, now we're now.
01:49:48 We're getting up to the actual just a few months before the murders.
Speaker 11
01:49:54 This is in.
Devon
01:49:55 January through February of of 1993.
01:50:01 This this is how we find out about the sex abuse report and this is from another document report stepfather was arrested for sexually abusing his sister three months ago.
01:50:10 Mother divorced him and remarried Father, sister, mother and father currently live in Portland, OR.
01:50:16 He has little contact with family.
01:50:18 Currently lives with stepfather.
01:50:19 The sex abuser.
01:50:24 There's also note notes of cutting of self mutilation, cut self with knives and razors.
01:50:33 Last time was three months ago.
01:50:36 This is another note relates that he tends to trance out when by himself he has done this since 5th grade.
01:50:43 It feels good, states he does not like to come out of this state because I have to deal with what's going on, reports.
01:50:50 He thinks a lot about life after death.
01:50:52 I want to go where the monsters go.
01:50:55 Totally normal kid, though, right?
01:50:57 Documentary made by by Manhattan.
01:51:02 OK, there's no, there's no enough, he admits.
01:51:05 Being caught with satanic items and with handwritten books about witchcraft denies Colton Evolvement is interested in witchcraft.
01:51:12 For past eight years.
01:51:14 He has tried to steal energy from someone else and influence others minds with witchcraft, states that he was able to do these things.
01:51:22 Describe self as pretty much hate the human race.
01:51:26 That's a quote relates that he feels people are in two classes, sheeps and wolves.
01:51:32 Wolves eat the sheep.
01:51:36 It's just a few months before the murders.
01:51:39 Reveals a history of abuse.
01:51:40 The talks as he talked of how he was.
01:51:43 Treated as a.
01:51:44 Child denies that his this has influenced him.
01:51:48 Stating I just put it all inside End Quote describe this as more than just anger like rage.
01:51:56 Sometimes he does quote blow up relates that when this happens the only solution.
01:52:01 Is to quote hurt someone?
01:52:04 Daniel reports being told at the hospital that.
01:52:06 He could be.
01:52:07 Another Charles Manson or Ted Bundy, when questioned on his feelings, he states I.
Speaker 11
01:52:13 Know I'm going to.
Devon
01:52:14 Influence the world.
01:52:15 People will Remember Me.
01:52:19 Kind of like he said.
01:52:20 At the end of the.
01:52:21 Documentary, right?
01:52:22 But he's totally innocent, guys.
01:52:27 Alright, so this guy's I mean.
01:52:29 There's not.
01:52:29 I'm not going.
01:52:30 I know it's getting getting, getting long.
01:52:31 I'm just going to a couple.
01:52:32 More things.
01:52:33 Then we'll move on from this.
01:52:38 So on January 25th, they filed another report. Damien explained that he obtains his power by drinking the blood of others.
01:52:44 He typically drinks the blood of a sexual partner or a ruling partner, whatever the **** that is.
01:52:52 This is achieved by biting or cutting, he states.
01:52:55 It makes him feel like a.
01:52:58 Damian describes drinking blood as giving him more power and strength.
01:53:02 He remembers doing this as far back as age 10.
01:53:06 He does not remember where he learned to do this.
01:53:09 Damian believes that there is no God.
01:53:11 He feels this society believes there is a God because society is weak.
01:53:15 He wants very much to be all powerful.
01:53:18 He wants to be very or very much to be in total control.
01:53:22 Damien relates that a spirit is now.
01:53:24 Living with him.
01:53:26 The spirit was put inside him last year.
01:53:29 He indicates that a month ago.
01:53:31 The spirit decided to become part of him and he and he to become part of the.
01:53:37 This is reportedly a spirit of a woman who has killed that was killed by her husband.
01:53:43 One question about how he feels with this spirit, or what the difference is, Damien is able to relate that he feels stronger and more powerful with this spirit.
01:53:52 He has not seen the spirit, but does hear the spirit.
01:53:55 In addition, he also reports conversations with demons and other spirit.
01:54:01 This is achieved through rituals.
01:54:03 He denies that he is satanic, seeing himself more as being involved in demonology.
01:54:09 But it's all just the satanic panic, right?
01:54:11 It's all just those crazy Bible belt guys they all just made it up because this ************ wears Metallica shirts.
01:54:19 That's all.
01:54:20 That's where they got it from.
01:54:21 He's totally innocent, guys.
01:54:23 We we made not one.
01:54:26 But we're about to find out.
01:54:29 No, wait, I'm sorry.
01:54:30 4 documentaries.
01:54:35 Alright, so one more thing, I'm just going to throw in.
01:54:38 He was at the time collecting disability.
01:54:42 And and the reason he was allowed to collect disability on the disability form it says homicidal, suicidal, manic depression, schizophrenia, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, sociopathic.
01:55:00 But he's just a good kid.
01:55:02 He's just a good kid that got mixed up.
01:55:05 In in a in a weird situation that ****** was was bullied by the cops, right?
01:55:12 By the cops that also noticed this is from one of the the interview notes. It was noted that Damian had the tattoo of EVIL across his left knuckles. For those of you who don't spell that spells evil he had tattooed evil on his knuckles.
01:55:31 And stated that Jason Baldwin had the same tattoo on his knuckles.
01:55:39 Now Jason Baldwin.
01:55:44 That's not. That's Jason Baldwin.
01:55:46 Jason Ball was the guy that looks like a girl.
01:55:49 But anyway, Jason Baldwin a little harder to find information on that guy.
01:55:52 He's doesn't have as much nothing like this.
01:55:56 But the one thing you can say is his mother was committed.
01:56:02 According to probate records, in 1992, this is a year before he you know the the murders his his mother was admitted to the.
01:56:11 E Arkansas Regional Mental Health Center.
01:56:14 For a period not to exceed 45 days, so she was committed.
01:56:19 To a mental mental institution.
01:56:23 Less than a year.
01:56:25 Before before her son.
01:56:29 Was accused of these crimes.
01:56:32 She was there for paranoid delusions.
01:56:36 And self-inflicted injuries including razor slashes to her neck and arm.
01:56:44 She told authorities that she had hallucinations of.
Speaker 11
01:56:47 A male voice.
Devon
01:56:49 And was afraid she was dying of AIDS.
01:56:53 Mental illness runs in the family.
01:56:57 That's just that.
01:56:58 That's just that's facts.
01:57:06 He didn't have an alibi either.
01:57:09 So neither one of them had an alibi.
01:57:14 But that you.
01:57:14 Know it is what it is, right?
Speaker 11
01:57:18 So next.
Devon
01:57:21 Now, why is this not coming up?
01:57:22 Here we go.
01:57:25 They make a follow up.
01:57:27 It was such a big hit.
01:57:28 It was such a big hit.
01:57:31 They decided to do a follow up.
01:57:35 To the first documentary.
Speaker 46
01:57:41 Paradise Lost the child murders at Robin Hood Hills. This film tells the tale of three teens who wore black listen to Metallica and perhaps as a result, were convicted in the 1993 killing of three young boys.
Speaker 12
01:57:53 Two film makers with incredible Access spent almost a year in West Memphis documenting the trial and the town.
Speaker 28
01:57:58 Everybody in the town and in the courtroom and on the jury are all blinded by their fantasies about Satanic cult.
Speaker 4
01:58:06 The criminal confessions are too many manipulated by the police.
Speaker 15
01:58:10 Then we wondering if the troop killers were actually captured.
Devon
01:58:15 All this information was available.
01:58:17 At the time.
01:58:19 Everything I read to you.
01:58:22 Because it was released into the public.
01:58:25 Domain I guess.
01:58:27 By his attorneys.
01:58:29 To try a lesson.
01:58:31 His sentence in the in the trials that the first documentary had access to.
01:58:38 But all these ******* ******* are parroting all the **** that's in the documentary.
01:58:46 So then they come back in 1996. This is what it looks like in.
01:58:49 1996.
01:58:52 But they're trying to get him a new trial because now they've got all this new money, all this Jew money is rolling in.
01:58:58 All these these celebrities like Eddie Vetter, Johnny Depp, the Dixie Chicks and some other people.
01:59:06 We're starting to back this.
01:59:10 They tell him to cut his.
01:59:11 Hair. So it looks a.
01:59:11 Lot more normal.
01:59:13 Again, this is this is what it looked like and they're like, oh, yeah, that's not that's not good.
01:59:18 So for the documentary, he looks like this.
01:59:26 And once again.
01:59:28 They start acting as if.
01:59:31 This guy, this goofy guy, he's the one.
01:59:36 He's the reason why that those kids are dead.
Speaker
01:59:43 You're watching K ATB.
Speaker 9
01:59:45 Channel 7 the Spirit of Arkansas.
Speaker 14
01:59:47 Today marks the five year anniversary of a West Memphis murder case that gained national attention.
01:59:53 The bodies of three second graders, Stephen Branch, Christopher Byers and Michael Moore, were found mutilated in a ditch.
02:00:00 Now one of the three men convicted for the murders, Damien Echols, has prompted a hearing to try to get his conviction.
02:00:06 Thrown out Norris.
Speaker 39
02:00:08 That hearing started today in Jonesboro, where the trial also took place.
02:00:12 Damien Echols is trying to avoid being executed by lethal injection.
02:00:16 He's claiming he didn't get a fair trial because of misrepresentation by his attorneys.
Speaker 28
02:00:21 Four years ago, an Arkansas jury found him guilty of murdering 3 second graders in a horrific ritualistic sacrifice.
02:00:28 As our senior correspondent Tim Sullivan reports, he wants a new trial and a chance to live.
Speaker 47
02:00:34 After a month of investigation, police arrested Eccles and two of his teenage friends, Jesse, Miss Kelly and Jason Baldwin.
02:00:43 Police theorized the murders had been part of a satanic ritual in addition to local media, the case attracted a documentary team that produced a film called Paradise Lost for HBO.
02:00:55 As a result of the film, a nationwide support group has sprung up to help the young men they call the West Memphis 3.
Devon
02:01:06 Because they're clearly innocent, right, guys?
02:01:09 They're clearly innocent.
02:01:11 They're just misunderstood teens.
Speaker 26
02:01:18 My name is Chris Worthington.
Speaker 45
02:01:20 And I'm from Akron. OH.
Speaker 14
02:01:22 Deborah Sue.
02:01:22 I'm from Murfreesboro, TN.
Speaker
02:01:24 Kathy Bakken and I'm from.
Devon
02:01:28 So this is this is what I was saying, when like basically Reddit came out like the Reddit of 1996 came out, they're like.
02:01:35 We're gonna ******* save him, guys.
02:01:38 And it's funny because, like, half of them.
02:01:41 Are Jewish and the the lady the the ringleader the only reporter they they even they even say it.
02:01:47 She's the only local reporter that believes the story Jewish.
Speaker 12
02:01:52 My name is Chris Worthington.
Speaker 28
02:01:54 And I'm from Akron. OH.
Speaker 40
02:01:55 Deborah Sue.
02:01:56 I'm from Murfreesboro, TN.
Speaker 27
02:01:58 Kathy Bakken and I'm from California.
Devon
02:02:01 Grove Pashley GROVEPASHL.
02:02:05 EY and I'm from.
Speaker 3
02:02:06 Los Angeles Ek from right outside, Houston, TX.
Speaker 22
02:02:13 I'm Ruth Carter and I'm from Virginia.
Speaker 12
02:02:16 Bill Pritchard, son.
02:02:18 PRICHASON, New Jersey.
Speaker 43
02:02:23 Gregory Fleming from Alexander, AR.
Speaker 48
02:02:26 I'm mark.
02:02:27 ENMARCIAIAN, also from New Jersey.
Speaker 26
02:02:32 My name is Burke sales and I'm.
Speaker 25
02:02:33 An alcoholic? No, I'm.
Speaker 42
02:02:35 Burke salsa B.
02:02:36 URKSAULS.
02:02:39 And I'm from Los Angeles, CA.
Devon
02:02:49 The only again one of the only journalists in Arkansas to question the verdict in this case.
02:02:55 Imagine that.
02:02:56 Imagine that.
02:02:57 So in this second one they rehash a lot of this.
02:03:01 The footage from the first one, because the the prosecutor, the judge and the cops, all of which to this day, stand by what?
02:03:09 What went what?
02:03:10 What happened?
02:03:11 They're like, no, those fun.
02:03:12 These are guilty.
02:03:13 I don't regret anything.
02:03:15 All I regret, in fact, the judge is basically says all I regret is letting that ******* film crew in and because he's presiding over.
02:03:22 It's a small county.
02:03:22 They have like a ton of judges.
02:03:24 He's presiding again on this this appeal case.
02:03:28 Where they're trying to introduce more evidence because he.
02:03:31 Lost the the other thing they leave.
Speaker 11
02:03:32 Out too 2.
Devon
02:03:33 Juries convicted them.
02:03:35 Because they appealed the conviction they got, they got sent or they got convicted.
02:03:40 The first time.
02:03:42 And they got reconvicted.
02:03:44 In 1994.
Speaker 11
02:03:47 So this is 2 years.
Devon
02:03:48 Later, in 96 and the the judge is like **** you guys. We're not letting you shoot footage this time.
02:03:56 Because you're we know you're trying to get murderers off.
02:04:01 So they spent a lot of time with this guy.
02:04:05 Trying to yeah, I guarantee you they told him to wear that shirt.
02:04:09 Yeah, they spent a lot of time trying to find some evidence that, yeah, that they, but they can't.
02:04:17 Until they hire.
02:04:19 The defense hires this guy that says, Oh my God.
Speaker 11
02:04:24 That's clearly.
Devon
02:04:25 A bite mark.
02:04:28 That's clearly a bite mark on his forehead.
02:04:34 That's clearly a bite mark on his.
02:04:37 Because you know, if you're going.
02:04:38 To bite someone.
02:04:40 You're going to bite them.
02:04:43 On the forehead.
02:04:45 With a perfectly circular bite pattern that just so happens to match up exactly.
Speaker 11
02:04:52 With the **** of the knife.
Devon
02:04:55 That they found.
02:04:56 Outside of jasons.
02:05:00 Or in the lake behind.
02:05:02 Jason's trailer.
02:05:05 Just happens to match exactly in shape and size.
02:05:10 In fact, there's even a little X thing.
02:05:13 In the middle.
02:05:16 And that is because knives like these, these survival knives that were very popular after the Rambo movies.
02:05:24 They had a compass.
02:05:27 At the top.
02:05:28 That likely shattered when it was smashed into the head of a kid.
02:05:33 Over and over and over again.
02:05:35 Because when it was or something happened to it or they took it off so.
02:05:38 That would sink.
02:05:40 Because those knives also had empty handles.
02:05:44 So when they recovered it.
02:05:47 There was no compass at the top.
02:05:53 No, it's totally a bite mark, guys.
02:05:56 And they go so far as to start saying it's his bite mark.
Speaker 11
02:06:01 It's his bite mark.
Devon
02:06:04 And then when they find out he has dentures, he doesn't even have teeth.
02:06:10 They say because he got the dentures after the murders.
02:06:15 That he was afraid of the bite marks being found and like years after, right, like years after someone else, already goes to jail.
02:06:22 But he's so scared of them.
02:06:24 Somehow find the bite marks.
Speaker 22
02:06:26 He gets his.
Devon
02:06:26 Own teeth removed and and starts wearing dentures.
02:06:32 So they actually have this guy, even though their clients have all failed polygraph tests.
02:06:38 All of them.
02:06:41 What you have to understand about this?
02:06:45 And I guess now that you know the full picture, I can.
02:06:47 I can.
02:06:48 I can lay it all out here.
02:06:51 That first documentary was a satanic inversion.
02:06:55 The entire documentary was oh, my God, these kids were accused of being killers because they listened to Metallica.
02:07:05 They looked kind of weird, and these damn Christians, they just thought everything was Satan.
02:07:12 When in reality, that documentary did the exact inverse of that.
02:07:17 They said these damn Southerners, these damn Christians.
02:07:22 Clearly they did it like this.
02:07:24 Hick right here.
02:07:26 We have no evidence at all.
Speaker 11
02:07:28 But he seems weird.
02:07:30 He seems weird.
02:07:31 Doesn't he?
02:07:31 He seems weird, so he probably killed his own kid.
Devon
02:07:38 It's literally a satanic inversion.
02:07:42 The entire documentary is supposed to be how you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
02:07:48 You shouldn't accuse people of heinous acts just because they're like a weirdo.
02:07:52 By the way, I bet it was this weirdo.
Speaker 11
02:08:00 It was definitely this weirdo over here.
02:08:10 And he's a weirdo.
02:08:11 He's totally a weirdo.
Devon
02:08:14 Now, he's not a weirdo. In the same way, Damian's a weirdo he's not.
02:08:18 Drinking people's blood.
02:08:21 He's not telling everyone that he wants to be a God, that he feels more powerful when he drinks blood.
02:08:27 He's not living with a pedophile, you know?
02:08:30 Yeah, he's not weird like that.
02:08:33 I mean I.
02:08:34 In fact, I bet he.
02:08:35 Doesn't even listen to Metallica.
02:08:39 But they sure played Metallica in the back row, where they got him to make a fool of himself even more.
02:08:46 In this documentary so that they could insinuate.
02:08:50 Over and over.
02:08:51 Oh, look how.
Speaker 11
02:08:51 Weird he is.
02:08:52 He must have done it.
Devon
02:08:54 They take him back to the the site where the kids are found.
02:08:59 And he makes he digs some mock graves and lights them on fire.
02:09:02 Kind of like a you.
02:09:03 Know like a weirdo.
Speaker 4
02:09:06 Burn, you *** ** * *****.
02:09:09 Go to hell.
02:09:12 Can you remember streaming and hearing them holler?
Speaker 23
02:09:18 Pulling your grave?
02:09:19 Nope on your grave.
Devon
02:09:23 So yeah, he's a low IQ weirdo.
02:09:29 And because he likes the American flag because he's Christian.
02:09:34 Because he talks **** about the guy that I think that the producers have a ********** crush on that Damien kid.
02:09:42 More on that later.
02:09:44 Uh, they they.
02:09:48 They literally do a satanic inversion.
02:09:50 They literally make a documentary.
02:09:53 That, they claim is there specifically to show you how you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, while a doing exactly ******* that.
02:10:05 They show all the support that that Reddit that Reddit has been able to bring to the forefront.
02:10:11 All these people from around the world, sending them postcards.
Speaker 42
02:10:15 OK, this is a this is.
02:10:16 A collection of postcards that we've received from people from.
02:10:20 All over the.
02:10:20 World in support of this cause, they've they've all written free of the West Memphis 3 all over these postcards.
Speaker 4
02:10:28 The goal was actually.
Devon
02:10:30 To deliver this to the governor, show the governor the support that these three.
02:10:33 Have it's more like it's like.
02:10:35 A kind of working as a petition.
02:10:37 More than it is anything else?
02:10:41 And these ****** ****, even to this guys face.
02:10:46 Essentially accuse him of killing the kids.
02:10:51 And and and part and even they say, well, you should give us because of our our bite mark.
02:10:56 It's totally not from that knife.
02:10:58 We want you to give us.
02:10:59 Not only did you have to take the polygraph test.
02:11:03 You you have to give us bite impressions.
Speaker 39
02:11:07 While meanwhile.
Devon
02:11:09 They're posting poetry.
02:11:16 I ask poetry.
02:11:19 Alongside photos of these guys when they were just little cute, little boys couldn't hurt nobody.
02:11:35 But they didn't get their big gotcha.
02:11:37 Moment that they wanted with the second documentary.
Speaker 22
02:11:41 Because at the end.
Devon
02:11:42 They show the results of the.
02:11:44 The very height.
02:11:46 Very high polygraph tests.
02:11:48 They're client.
02:11:49 No, they're client.
02:11:49 Failed the polygraph test.
02:11:52 And so they got this, this crazy guy, they're going to prove that he's the real killer.
02:11:57 He's the real killer.
Speaker 49
02:11:58 That arm straightened out and had that smoke.
Speaker 23
02:12:03 You, Sir.
Speaker 49
02:12:03 Well, thank you.
02:12:04 I don't according to what we have here, the response is on the chart.
02:12:08 I feel you're telling the truth about the issues we worked with as far as you see them as you see them.
Speaker 23
02:12:14 Give me half.
02:12:17 Thank you.
02:12:17 I knew it was right.
02:12:19 I knew I was innocent and to all of you morons, fools and idiots that thought I had anything to do with it.
02:12:26 I am now vindicated.
02:12:28 Maybe this will serve a point to some of y'all.
02:12:31 And I feel sorry my heart goes out to the victims.
02:12:37 To have to be put through things such as this to just already try to clear my name when it's already been vindicated once.
02:12:45 Now it's been vindicated twice by professional who I have the utmost respect for, and I want each and every one of you devil worshippers to know.
02:12:56 That you are wrong and you need to go on another ghost hunt and leave me alone.
Speaker 11
02:13:04 Oh, he's he.
02:13:05 But he's a ******.
Devon
02:13:07 And they they spend that, they they can't end with that.
02:13:11 They make, they humiliate him at the end by having him sing another song and and make his make him look as cringe as humanly possible at the end.
02:13:22 And like I.
Speaker 11
02:13:23 Said that wasn't.
Devon
02:13:23 Enough. Then they make another documentary in 2011.
02:13:30 They reuse the shot of the.
02:13:33 The rebel flag that they use in the first one they use.
02:13:36 A lot of these shots.
Speaker 11
02:13:38 But now all of a sudden.
Devon
02:13:40 Oh, it's weird now all of a sudden they don't treat this guy like a maniac.
02:13:45 It's in fact, it's kind of strange at first you're watching the third installment of this of this documentary and.
02:13:52 Like, why are you being so nice to this guy?
02:13:54 Why aren't you doing the weird camera angles where it looks like he's got a pentagram on his forehead?
02:13:59 Why aren't you making him sing his cringe songs and and telling him it's a good idea to to light lighter fluid in some ditch and look like a ******* crazy person?
02:14:09 No, he looks very sane.
02:14:12 And and and you can't figure.
02:14:13 Out why at first?
02:14:17 And then they they catch you up on what's been happening.
02:14:20 Mary has been a long time.
Speaker 16
02:14:23 Thousands are questioning the convictions.
Speaker 35
02:14:25 16 years ago, I believe I saw the documentary Paradise Lost HBO.
Devon
02:14:28 Any better?
Speaker 35
02:14:30 I got involved in the case, thinking that there was maybe some way I could make a.
Speaker 40
02:14:36 There's something about the way Damien Echols was treated as a teenager that you can relate to.
Speaker 9
02:14:41 I can remember being kind of looked upon as a a freak or you know, different because I.
02:14:47 Because I didn't dress like everybody else, so I can empathize with being judged by how you look as opposed to.
02:14:54 Who you are has.
Speaker 39
02:14:56 Changed his mind about the guilt of the three boys, known as the West Memphis 3.
Speaker 23
02:15:01 I hated you.
Devon
02:15:03 Ohh, now all of a sudden we know.
Speaker 11
02:15:05 Why they're nice to him.
Devon
02:15:07 They have beat him into submission.
02:15:11 After having two documentaries essentially saying that he killed his kid.
02:15:17 Being hounded by the Internet for about 20 years over it.
02:15:23 And his wife dying.
02:15:26 And everything else.
02:15:27 So they they they that's the thing.
02:15:28 His wife died.
02:15:29 They they they said that he had something to do with that too.
02:15:33 Then he must have murdered his wife to keep keep her quiet or something.
02:15:43 He's finally bent the knee.
02:15:46 He's finally willing to say.
02:15:49 I I was married before, but I guess I was wrong.
02:15:54 And now all of a sudden.
02:15:56 He's no longer a suspect, he's not a target, they don't humiliate him.
Speaker 23
02:16:03 I believe with all my heart you kill my son.
02:16:07 And I'm sorry for that.
02:16:14 The question is why am I so different now?
02:16:18 Then years back. Uh.
02:16:24 Coming to deal with things.
02:16:28 Coming to deal with that, I know I did all I could to keep Christopher safe, that it wasn't my fault.
02:16:36 No, I wasn't perfect day.
02:16:38 But I I did the best I could.
02:16:44 I'm just country boy from our tree that you killed my son. You made me mad and hell and I want to kick somebody's ***.
Devon
02:16:57 But now all is forgiven.
02:16:59 They give him some dignity.
02:17:01 They don't try to make him look like a maniac anymore.
02:17:04 Because now he's on the right side.
02:17:07 Now there's now, it's this guy.
02:17:09 Another one of the dads.
02:17:14 Yes, that's right.
02:17:15 Another one of the dads.
02:17:19 And Damien gets married in prison to this chick.
02:17:24 He got several proposals, by the way.
02:17:26 Lots of women riding to to Satan, worshipping Damien in prison.
02:17:34 Nothing says sexy like a a blood drinking satanist in prison.
02:17:40 So this New York chick?
02:17:42 Yeah, she's from New York.
02:17:44 She saw the documentary.
02:17:47 And then she couldn't.
02:17:49 She couldn't just stand by and let him rot in prison.
02:17:53 So she's actually championing a lot of this stuff.
02:17:57 As she marries him and moved, she's moved to Arkansas now and lives like next to the prison and goes to see him all the time.
02:18:08 And she's there trying to get him acquitted.
02:18:15 Including she's the she's organized events with.
Speaker 11
02:18:21 The Dixie Chicks.
Speaker 50
02:18:28 I just want to say thanks for being here today and I think it's important for all elected officials to know that we are watching them.
02:18:37 It's not about opinion anymore. It's not about debate, it's about science. And I urge you all to go to wm3.org and donate to the Defense fund. The donations is.
02:18:49 What is paid for?
02:18:50 Through the forensic tests and the DNA testing that's going to set these men free, I just want to say I'm honored to be here.
02:18:59 Lori is a wonderful, wonderful person, and she's what has kept this going for 14 years and made people not.
Devon
02:19:09 So yeah.
02:19:11 Now they go after the.
02:19:12 Whole documentary focuses on this guy.
02:19:15 And the reason that is.
02:19:17 They're able to find again.
02:19:20 This is.
02:19:21 This is not the newest kind of DNA testing.
02:19:25 So and it's it's from a hair and hair does not have DNA in the same way that like you know skin cells and stuff do.
02:19:33 So all they do is they find a hair somewhere on one of the kids by this is this is the stepdad of those kids who would almost be crazy if, like there wasn't.
02:19:43 You know, some some residue of the house right that this guy lives in.
02:19:48 And the and.
02:19:50 But the hair doesn't even it's not even conclusive that it's him. It's a one out of 100 chance.
02:19:56 So it's not a one in a million chance or one in a bit like you know the DNA test.
02:20:00 People hear DNA and they think oh, that's that they.
02:20:03 Got no. It's one out of 100.
Speaker 11
02:20:05 So it might not even be his hair, and even if.
02:20:08 It is his hair.
02:20:09 It's not that crazy that his hair.
02:20:12 Would be somewhere on.
Devon
02:20:13 A kid that lives in his house.
02:20:17 And so, because they find this hair, they try to get a new trial saying, like, oh, look, there's a hair on one of the kids that's not damiens.
02:20:27 So clearly that proves Damian didn't do it.
02:20:36 I don't know how, but somehow it does, and if you're one of the ******* watching HBO, you probably believe it.
02:20:41 Or if you're this guy again, they've now.
02:20:44 The Satanic inversion has now gone up another step.
02:20:49 We've now gone from.
02:20:51 Let's make a documentary about how you shouldn't judge people just by the way that they look, or because they're weird.
02:20:58 Let's use that documentary to literally make people judge other people.
02:21:02 By the way that they look, and because they act funny.
02:21:04 It'll be ******* hilarious.
02:21:06 And while we do that, we'll be getting 3 Satanic child murderers off.
02:21:11 It'll be in ******* saying.
02:21:12 Let's ******* do that.
Speaker 11
02:21:16 And then the second one.
Devon
02:21:17 You know what?
02:21:17 It would be even funnier.
02:21:19 Oh, my God, how about now that we've we've, we've roped all these ******* Gollum into this idea that it's like that that this is real.
Speaker 11
02:21:28 Let's make them.
Devon
02:21:29 Blame one of the victims, fathers, and harass them on the Internet for ******* years and it'll be it'll be ******* hilarious.
02:21:37 It'll be great.
02:21:41 And the third one?
02:21:44 We've broken him.
02:21:45 Now let's make him do it.
02:21:51 For the the third installment.
02:21:55 Let's make the guy.
02:21:58 That we turn the mob on to.
02:22:01 Let's turn him into the mob.
Speaker 23
02:22:17 I had something made just the pros and cons of Terry Hobbs.
02:22:23 This pretty well speaks for itself.
02:22:25 Two items that would be on the innocent side that he needed to try to restrain 3 victims.
02:22:30 Some say that might be a little difficult.
02:22:32 Not really.
02:22:33 Once he hit one child, the other two probably froze like a deer in headlights.
Devon
02:22:45 They've turned him into.
02:22:48 The advocate, because just like the people like, think about it, this is how they operate now.
02:22:55 Everyone that rushes to cancel the next person that's getting cancelled is doing it because the the ******* gun is not pointed.
02:23:02 At them anymore.
02:23:04 They know as long as the gun is pointed at their person, it's not pointed at them.
Speaker 39
02:23:10 They are literal Satanists.
Devon
02:23:13 There is no ******* satanic panic.
02:23:16 We are living.
02:23:19 And a satanic reality.
02:23:23 This is how they ******* work.
02:23:32 So this Jew, they they got a bunch of Jew lawyers.
02:23:35 Now they got all that money.
02:23:36 They got that Eddie Vedder money and all that Dixie chick money, all that Metallica money, all that Johnny Depp money, Henry Rollins money.
Speaker 11
02:23:45 Like basically like the douchiest ********.
Devon
02:23:48 You can think of.
02:23:50 Like they're all they're all giving their money.
02:23:52 To this cause.
02:23:54 And with the evidence I.
02:23:55 Just told you.
02:23:56 The one in 100 chance that.
02:23:57 Maybe it's that other.
02:23:58 Guys's hair. That is the evidence. They go to the Arkansas Supreme Court with and try to get another trial.
02:24:13 And because that's never going to go anywhere, you know, they, they they're they're not able to win that way.
02:24:20 But Arkansas?
02:24:22 It doesn't have a huge budget.
02:24:25 For these kinds of things.
02:24:27 Or for anything really.
02:24:30 And they're being attacked by all these big money interests.
02:24:36 They have this propaganda has managed to now convince.
02:24:41 Many of the victims families.
02:24:44 That these poor little boys didn't have nothing.
02:24:46 To do with it.
02:24:49 And so they make a judgment call.
02:24:53 Because they don't want to risk the chance.
02:24:58 That they're given another hearing.
02:25:01 And with all of their highly paid lawyers.
02:25:05 And maybe some technicality.
02:25:08 And there was there was some other things they're worried about because they had a witness saying that that the jury.
02:25:14 Foreman, right. Like the.
02:25:15 Here's the ****** ** thing they I told you, they convicted these guys twice.
02:25:22 They convicted him twice without the confession from the Jesse Kid.
02:25:29 That they didn't allow that to be.
02:25:32 Entered into the.
02:25:33 Well, the jury foreman apparently knew about the confession in the first in the first trial.
02:25:40 According to someone we don't know if that's true, but.
02:25:42 According to someone.
02:25:44 And they were worried that that they they could somehow get it declared A mistrial because of the.
02:25:48 That and that it would just become this a never ending ******* nightmare.
02:25:54 And if they got acquitted, then because they've been in prison for 18 or 19 years, they could then sue the state and get, you know, and they've got like, you know, they got ******* Metallica and they all these these deep, deep pockets.
02:26:09 Backing them up.
02:26:12 So they found some weird legal loophole.
02:26:16 Where they were allowed to claim they were innocent.
02:26:19 But plead guilty.
02:26:22 And then the the judge could sentence them to time served.
02:26:29 And that way, they're still they're still convicted murderers.
02:26:34 They are still all three of them, technically, to this day convicted murder, all walking free.
02:26:42 But they are technically convicted murderers.
02:26:45 Because of this, dog and pony show.
02:26:49 Because they were tired of of the Jews.
Speaker 32
02:26:52 Profession of innocence.
02:26:53 If you would please, Mr.
02:26:55 Eccles, Mr.
02:26:57 Miss Kelly, if you would stand, please.
02:27:01 Eccles, how do you wish to plead in this case?
Speaker 51
02:27:04 Your Honor, I am.
Speaker
02:27:05 These charges.
Speaker 52
02:27:07 But I'm entering an Alfred.
Speaker 21
02:27:08 Guilty plea today.
Speaker 51
02:27:10 Based on the advice of my counsel and my understanding that it's in my best interest to do so if the entire.
Speaker 32
02:27:18 Baldwin, how do you choose to play it in?
02:27:20 This case.
Speaker 33
02:27:21 First of all.
02:27:24 There's more violence, fighting force to rage.
02:27:27 However, serving 18 years for such.
02:27:31 I agree that it's in the state's best interest.
02:27:33 As well as my own.
02:27:35 That based upon the North Carolina versus Alford that I lead the hill to first reported.
Speaker 32
02:27:43 The same as relates to you, Mr.
02:27:44 Miss Kelly.
02:27:45 How do you wish to plead?
Speaker 25
02:27:47 I am. Thank you.
Speaker 36
02:27:49 The North Carolina versus Albert.
Speaker 7
02:27:52 Although I am innocent.
02:27:56 This is and in this.
Speaker 36
02:27:58 Free to do my business.
Speaker 32
02:27:59 Thank you.
02:28:01 Thank you.
02:28:01 The court finds each of the defendants guilty of first degree.
02:28:04 Murder and the modified charges.
Speaker 17
02:28:12 At this moment, the West Memphis three are free.
Speaker 53
02:28:16 OK.
02:28:16 So just for clarity then David, it's not that these convictions were overturned and they are still guilty, but they were freed.
02:28:24 Now this at the root of this change is DNA evidence, or lack thereof.
02:28:30 Is that correct?
Speaker 17
02:28:31 It was one of the last things that came to the Court's attention this year. Now, if they did not go through with this deal today, those three would have been probably granted a new trial later this year.
02:28:43 But that trial could have taken years to complete, so the judge again reiterating this was in the best interest, he said.
02:28:50 For everyone.
Speaker 23
02:28:53 This is not right, and the people of Arkansas need to stand up and raise hell because three innocent men are going to have to claim today that they're guilty for a crime they didn't know.
Devon
02:29:05 And that's ********.
02:29:09 Oh, he's the hero once again.
02:29:13 He's the hero once again.
02:29:19 But the the prosecutor makes it clear.
02:29:23 In his press conference look.
02:29:26 We just, we were just whatever we were just we wanted to go away.
02:29:31 There's just not there.
02:29:32 There's no political pressure for us to keep these guys in here, and there's a lot to let them out.
02:29:37 Whatever we're giving the people what they want and saving some money, but by no means do we think these guys are innocent and they're they they didn't.
02:29:47 They learn about the case by watching a documentary.
02:29:51 They proved the case twice.
Speaker 11
02:30:01 So he's out of he's out of jail now.
Devon
02:30:04 Oh, and look at that.
02:30:07 He's super into magic again or still.
02:30:15 We'll get back to that in a second.
02:30:18 And that wasn't enough.
02:30:20 So he gets out.
02:30:23 And they do. Another documentary.
02:30:27 This one's produced by Peter Jackson, so it's like.
02:30:31 *** **** money.
02:30:33 Directed by Amy Berg.
02:30:41 Yeah, yeah.
02:30:42 And he starts.
02:30:42 He's hanging out with Johnny.
02:30:44 Johnny Depp.
02:30:45 In fact, they they literally get matching tattoos.
Speaker 51
02:30:50 An interview while ago and the first thing Johnny says is when this is over.
02:30:52 We've got to find it out to you.
02:30:55 You know, it's one of those things he didn't just support us while we were in prison.
02:30:59 He's been with us every single step of the way since we've gotten out, he's become like a brother to me.
02:31:04 And that's one of the things we always do, you know, just as part of that bond.
02:31:10 Whenever you get tattoos like that, it's something that both of you carry with you through the rest of.
02:31:14 Your life, and it's really meaningful.
Devon
02:31:17 They literally got matching tattoos.
02:31:23 And he got lots of tattoos.
02:31:25 This is what he looks like now.
02:31:29 He is tatted up from head to toe and and weird magicy stuff.
02:31:41 And he sells magic stuff and does like magic podcasts.
02:31:51 He's married to that Chick still, I think.
02:31:55 We'll wait and see if that self destructs.
02:31:56 Now that your husband isn't like in jail.
02:32:00 Do you guys still get along?
02:32:07 Oh, but here's the thing.
02:32:11 Here's the thing, this is an interview he did recently.
02:32:17 Part of that deal in 2011.
02:32:22 Ten years or, you know, 11 years ago.
02:32:26 Was that if he got?
02:32:30 In trouble, or if they found anything at all for the next 10 years, they could put him back on death row.
02:32:42 Like if he did anything violent or if they found if they found some new evidence they were allowed to put them back on death row as part of the deal.
02:32:53 So here's him talking about that right after that expired.
Speaker 54
02:32:59 And then you may have this similar answer, but I mean what does today mean to you?
02:33:03 What did today 10 years ago, what does it mean?
Speaker
02:33:08 It was.
Speaker 42
02:33:09 Really it's it's.
Speaker 52
02:33:11 It's kind of I always think of it as like my second birthday.
02:33:14 You know, it was a day of being reborn back into the world, you know, a day that I did not know if it was ever going to.
02:33:20 Come or not.
02:33:21 But there was also you.
02:33:23 Know we had to.
02:33:24 Take an Alford plea and we had this constant.
02:33:29 Kind of threat hanging over our head where we had to agree to this.
02:33:33 This 10 year suspended sentence.
Speaker 17
02:33:36 Type of thing.
Speaker 52
02:33:37 Where, if anything.
02:33:38 Went wrong during that 10 year time period.
02:33:40 Technically we could have been.
02:33:42 I could have been sent back to death row or at least prison.
02:33:45 So there was always that which makes you know today is the end of that.
Devon
02:33:53 Now, wouldn't you know it?
02:33:56 Now we don't know that that like.
02:33:57 I said we.
02:33:58 Haven't seen the last chapter of this.
02:34:02 But right after the 10 years expired, we're.
02:34:04 Now he's good.
02:34:05 He's good.
02:34:06 He's totally off the hook, no.
02:34:07 Matter what now?
Speaker 43
02:34:12 The men accused of murder in that West Memphis 3 case may get a second chance to argue their innocence.
Speaker 56
02:34:19 Evidence that was said to have been destroyed has actually been found intact, and now they're trying to have it tested for DNA analysis, THV 11's Ashley Godwin explains.
Speaker 55
02:34:30 Turns out there is evidence the whole time that could have overturned this conviction.
02:34:36 You know, about 20 years ago this is.
Devon
02:34:40 OK. Again they're they're.
02:34:41 They're lying about that, but but they're, you know.
02:34:43 They they lied about.
02:34:44 Everything what happened was.
02:34:46 Now that that window is is closed.
02:34:50 They find in the evidence room some of the shoelaces used to tie.
02:34:56 Up the boys.
02:34:58 And their big claim is well, we've got this new technology.
02:35:03 And we're going to use it to vacuum DNA.
02:35:09 Off of these shoelaces.
02:35:12 And we'll exonerate.
02:35:14 These guys, again, these are shoelaces.
02:35:19 That were tied by kids over and over and over again, tied by someone and then dumped in a bog.
02:35:27 Like essentially like a muddy bog for over a day pumped out.
02:35:34 Taken out by you know, of the ground by COP handled.
02:35:37 By lots of different people.
02:35:39 Does he have the DNA?
02:35:40 Wasn't like it wasn't.
02:35:41 So, much like a thing back then.
02:35:42 Handled by lots of people put in an evidence room, handled possibly by, you know, who knows, right.
02:35:50 Forensic people, possibly lawyers.
02:35:54 Who knows?
02:35:55 And then sitting around for.
02:35:59 Like, well, 20 years.
02:36:02 So it's or no 30 years.
02:36:07 So they're they're saying they're going to back in the same way they're lying about DNA evidence in the the second documentary saying like.
Speaker
02:36:15 Oh yeah, well.
Devon
02:36:16 We found this or mine is the third one.
02:36:19 Like it's a one in a hundred chance is this guy, but like, that means like it's it's like a million people, it's like.
02:36:25 30 million people in America.
02:36:27 You know it's it's you're not, you're not.
02:36:29 Really narrowing it down.
02:36:31 And and now they're saying, well, we can vacuum.
02:36:34 Off the DNA.
02:36:37 And this is the company that makes the.
Speaker 11
02:36:40 This stuff and this technology has.
02:36:42 Been around for a while.
Devon
02:36:44 It's not brand new technology.
02:36:46 And they had it back before they got this sweet deal this technology existed.
02:36:54 Prior to the Sweet deal.
02:36:57 And here's something else.
02:37:01 Well, that's just me guessing some of it.
02:37:03 But anyway, so here's the technology.
Speaker 57
02:37:06 My name is Jared Bradley.
02:37:07 I'm the president of MVAC systems.
02:37:09 We have the most innovative and newest wet vacuum based forensics DNA collection system.
02:37:15 This is a tool.
02:37:17 That they need to have in their arsenal.
Speaker 40
02:37:19 Solving a crime for me, as in working with the law enforcement.
02:37:24 See means we get the perpetrators off the streets, bringing closure to families and to victims of crime.
02:37:31 The Ambac helped solving crime in several ways.
02:37:34 One would be touch DNA.
02:37:36 Oftentimes, we'll have victims that are grabbed or touched and we can't see the touch DNA and by using the M VAC we are able to extract.
02:37:45 That touch DNA.
Devon
02:37:49 Well, what if you touched a?
02:37:52 A shoelace.
02:37:55 Threw in a bog for a couple of days and then a bunch of people handled it and then put it in an evidence room for 30 years is.
02:38:05 There's your little wet back.
02:38:08 So here's the problem.
02:38:10 Because the way that they behaved with the the prior DNA non evidence.
02:38:17 The the prosecutors in Arkansas are actually fighting this testing because they're like.
02:38:22 They're just, they're going to test.
02:38:23 It they're going to find like, you know, DNA.
02:38:26 That's not, that's not Damian.
02:38:28 It's like it's not going to be that they find the real killer.
02:38:32 They're going to find, you know, like DNA from, you know, a detective or a cop or, you know, just something like.
02:38:38 Like, they found that ******* hair, right, that they're like, oh.
02:38:40 It's not damiens.
02:38:43 Damian, who named himself after a Catholic priest, obviously.
02:38:49 It's and they're going to use that and and once again try for like the lawsuit stuff.
02:38:56 So it's a.
02:38:56 Money thing.
02:38:59 And Speaking of money.
02:39:01 You know, Amazon might have banned my book.
02:39:05 But he's been busy.
02:39:08 You can buy high magic.
02:39:10 You can buy magic books.
02:39:12 Magic, spiritual practices, and magic that saved my life on death row.
02:39:25 Another book where he tells you about rituals.
Speaker 11
02:39:31 But it's the satanic panic, guys.
02:39:33 It's all the satanic panic.
Devon
02:39:37 He was just an edgelord that listened to Metallica.
02:39:41 And like to drink blood off of people trying to kill themselves and insane asylums.
02:39:46 But don't forget and ignore all that.
02:39:49 He was just an edgy kid who like to stop dying dogs to death and then drape their intestines on him and, you know, play with their that, you know, try to make their eyes pop.
02:40:02 You know that that that's not a.
Speaker 11
02:40:03 Big deal. He's.
Devon
02:40:04 Just, you know, he's a troubled kid who, you know, had dog skulls in his room and and told therapist that he thought he was more powerful when he drank blood in that, you know, his parents were so afraid of him, they called the cops because they thought he was going to kill.
02:40:20 And and he threatened to kill the cops.
02:40:22 And you know.
02:40:24 Just just a troubled kid, that's all.
02:40:27 Just all normal, you know, normal teenage stuff.
02:40:30 Normal teenage stuff with like a psychiatric file that's literally hundreds of pages long that just page after page after page about describing a a psychopath getting more psychotic up until the moment that he.
Speaker 11
02:40:46 Clearly did not.
Devon
02:40:47 Kill those three kids in a ritualistic fashion.
02:40:51 And then when he told.
Speaker 11
02:40:53 When being interviewed by.
Devon
02:40:54 The I actually I didn't have that.
Speaker 11
02:40:56 And when he was being interviewed by the cops, he said a bunch.
02:41:00 Of ****** ** ****.
Devon
02:41:01 He said that like, well, yeah, that the killer was probably quite happy when he did it.
02:41:05 He probably wanted to hear the screams, like, just stuff that like again.
02:41:08 All right, maybe maybe you could say he's an edge Lord if he was.
02:41:11 Saying that on the Internet, but when you're in the.
02:41:13 You know, interrogation room.
02:41:14 You're telling cops that the penis is a power organ and that that's probably why the killer cut it.
02:41:22 Though it's going to raise some eyebrows, it's going to raise a few eyebrows.
02:41:26 Of course, not the viewers of the documentaries because they didn't add that to the documentary.
02:41:30 But you know it's going to make people think that, Oh well.
02:41:32 Weird, you know.
02:41:34 Also, when you tell the detectives that you know, he suspects that the killer might have ****** in.
02:41:38 Their mouths when?
02:41:39 But while he was killing them and then, you know, even though that's not.
02:41:42 You know, nowhere in in the the news or or anywhere else as they're talking about urine in their stomachs, even though they found urine in the stomachs of the the kids.
02:41:51 That he totally didn't kill, right?
Speaker 11
02:41:55 Just all these things that.
Devon
02:41:56 He got right that.
02:41:57 You know that just it's just all coincidences.
02:42:01 Here's a troubled kid being edgy.
02:42:04 Just ask any better, just ask Henry Rollins.
02:42:07 Just ask Johnny Depp.
02:42:09 You know, just ask the Dixie Chicks.
02:42:12 Just ask Metallica.
02:42:16 And just like the the douchiest.
02:42:19 Douchiest people from the 90s, you can imagine.
02:42:22 They all know he's innocent.
02:42:27 Just ask HBO.
Speaker 11
02:42:31 So my point is.
02:42:34 All it took.
Devon
02:42:37 For the leftist meme machine.
02:42:43 To overturn a conviction.
02:42:48 With the facts.
02:42:50 By the way, regardless if they're innocent or.
02:42:52 Not, you know, that's almost immaterial.
02:42:55 Doesn't matter.
02:42:56 It's irrelevant.
02:42:58 What's relevant is.
02:43:00 The leftist meme industrial complex.
02:43:08 A conviction.
02:43:11 That had facts like this.
02:43:14 Facts like those that I've.
02:43:15 Gone over all night tonight.
02:43:21 Brainwashed again.
02:43:23 Whether they were innocent or not.
02:43:30 Brainwashed the entire public.
02:43:34 And motivated them politically.
02:43:39 So powerfully.
02:43:43 That they were.
02:43:44 Able to intimidate the state of Arkansas.
02:43:48 Into releasing people that they admit.
02:43:52 They believed to be satanic baby killers.
02:44:00 That's the take away.
02:44:05 The leftist meme industrial complex was able to create a situation where.
02:44:16 Law enforcement in the state of Arkansas.
02:44:20 Felt compelled.
02:44:23 To release people, they thought.
02:44:27 Were satanic.
02:44:30 Child murderers.
02:44:39 But the left can't meme, huh?
02:44:48 The left can't meme.
02:44:56 Ohh boy, so yeah, this took a lot of ******* time.
02:45:00 I essentially I I really was just.
02:45:04 I've been meaning to watch.
02:45:05 It I don't know why I didn't even I I really.
02:45:07 I had never.
02:45:09 Never at all looked into this case, but I had that first documentary just like.
02:45:13 On a list.
02:45:15 Of things that I was going to like, maybe watch and it was it was an old list because it was on this old computer that isn't broken.
Speaker 22
02:45:22 I was like, Oh yeah.
Devon
02:45:23 I just watched this while I'm doing stuff.
02:45:26 It's a documentary, so I'm not going to like, be locked into it and I'm and I'm listening to it.
02:45:30 I'm just like.
02:45:31 What is this ****?
02:45:33 And I see what they're doing, right?
02:45:35 I can totally see what they're doing.
02:45:38 And I'm like.
Speaker 11
02:45:41 This can't this.
Devon
02:45:42 Can't be accurate.
02:45:44 It just by the way I can.
02:45:45 Tell they're they're doing like.
02:45:47 Even though one of the victims name was Michael Moore, ironically they're doing like the Michael Moore thing.
02:45:53 You can tell they're lying.
02:45:54 You can tell they're leaving something out.
02:45:58 And it didn't take much it it didn't take much to dig.
02:46:00 You just have to dig a little tiny bit all this stuff that, like all the recordings of the interviews and all the, you know, scans and everything of like, like, his, his entire psychiatric record.
02:46:11 It's all available online.
02:46:15 And has been for a really long time.
02:46:18 Like I said, it was.
02:46:19 It was all the.
02:46:21 Maybe not online, but it was available.
02:46:22 To the the film makers.
02:46:26 They knew all this stuff.
02:46:30 They knew all this stuff and they still made four.
02:46:32 ******* movies trying to get these guys off.
02:46:38 Or not try and getting those guys off.
02:46:43 Hell that Damien Echols.
02:46:48 Has Co written a Pearl Jam song now?
02:46:52 He's selling magic books.
Speaker 11
02:46:59 You can go to one of his uh.
Devon
02:47:01 His workshops, where he'll teach you magic.
02:47:23 Look, if I was that guy, I would think I I had.
02:47:25 Some ******* magic too.
02:47:31 In a way, it was literally magic that got him out.
02:47:36 It was.
02:47:38 I don't mean like.
02:47:41 Magical forces.
02:47:49 There was mean magic.
02:47:55 That's what they that, that's the book they should write.
02:47:58 High meme magic.
02:48:05 How to get convicted twice convicted.
02:48:10 With the recorded confession, I'm sorry.
02:48:13 5 recorded confessions.
02:48:21 With the pile of other evidence that I.
02:48:23 Laid out for you.
02:48:25 And there's a lot more there is.
02:48:27 There's, there's the one thing I couldn't find, at least not in time.
02:48:31 I'm sure eventually I could send away for it and stuff like that, but the the only footage I have with the of the trial was the photos they put in the documentary.
02:48:43 What you know is like.
02:48:45 We know we we all know how that goes.
Speaker 11
02:48:50 There does exist.
Devon
02:48:52 Trial footage that that was not used for the documentary.
02:48:56 That that has even some more damning moments.
02:48:59 And there's there's, like, one thing I left.
02:49:01 Out where he's.
02:49:03 Well, they they go over his, see the FBI after they questioned him.
02:49:08 The FBI provided him, provided him the local.
02:49:14 Law enforcement with a a checklist.
02:49:18 Like they said, they said these are the questions.
02:49:21 You should ask this guy and I think I've got this.
02:49:24 Actually, let me see if I can bring this up.
02:49:29 I might have closed it.
02:49:30 I had so many ******* tabs open.
02:49:32 I mean, maybe this is it.
02:49:36 Yeah, OK, this is it, I think.
Speaker
02:49:46 Let me see.
02:49:46 If I can pull it up here.
Speaker 15
02:49:52 Is this it?
Speaker
02:49:55 This is it, OK.
Speaker 22
02:49:57 So this is the.
Devon
02:50:04 The questions that they ask.
02:50:07 The trial like profile him.
02:50:14 And I'll give you some of the answers.
02:50:19 So the.
02:50:24 Did you know the boys?
02:50:27 What would happen?
02:50:28 What should happen to someone who did something like this?
02:50:31 Should they have a second chance death penalty?
02:50:34 Why would someone do this thrill kill?
02:50:39 What do you think?
02:50:41 Or who do you?
02:50:42 Think did this, I don't know.
02:50:44 Couldn't have been an accident, no.
02:50:48 Did you or or do you know?
02:50:50 Who did this? No.
02:50:53 Polygraph, do you think a polygraph is accurate?
02:50:56 This is after he failed his not accurate.
02:51:01 Would you like to take a polygraph?
02:51:03 Or maybe this is maybe this is after her?
02:51:05 Before his, so he.
02:51:06 Knew he was going to fail.
02:51:07 So he said it's not accurate.
02:51:09 Would you like to take the polygraph?
02:51:10 He says no.
02:51:11 But apparently later agreed to it.
Speaker 22
02:51:14 How do you think they?
Devon
02:51:15 Died. They were cut up.
02:51:17 Now that's something that they that again, a lot of the details when this is this is in the first days.
02:51:24 Of the investigation, so a lot of those news clips that you saw, like oh, they were mutilated, that that was after.
02:51:29 The arrest.
02:51:31 So that the the.
02:51:32 News had not been spread about how they were cut up or anything like that.
02:51:40 Do you believe in God or the devil?
02:51:43 God, no.
02:51:44 Devil no.
02:51:45 How do you think it will feel to kill?
02:51:48 Some or to kill or watch someone die.
02:51:52 Scary. Scared.
02:51:56 What do you think?
02:51:58 But then he goes.
Speaker 32
02:52:00 Prior to go.
Devon
02:52:01 How do you think the person who did this feels?
02:52:05 They liked it.
02:52:08 Anyway, they go, it's I'm going to go through every single one.
02:52:11 A lot of them are like what you would expect.
02:52:13 But then every once in a while there's the weird stuff.
02:52:16 Like #22.
02:52:20 Have you ever been sexually and mentally abused?
02:52:23 Any talks about his stepfather?
02:52:25 And it says it didn't.
02:52:26 And then the note from the cop is says it.
02:52:29 Doesn't bother him.
02:52:31 So he's telling the cops?
02:52:33 Yeah, my sister had sexually abused when my stepfather, who I currently live with, and it doesn't bother me.
02:52:38 But the cops are just being ********, right?
02:52:41 It's cause he's wearing a Metallica shirt.
02:52:45 #25, are you on any medication? Michael, Dr. mental patient, Mac depression and inflaming. So he's on. He's on SSRI's. He's on a mimine.
02:52:56 He's on. I can't read the handwriting. He's on some other ****. 26. Have you done? Have you been experimented with any controlled substances? He talks about huffing gas, so he's ******* huffing gas?
02:53:16 Which is something his parents that's also in the psych papers, like his psych psychiatric background that his parents were like.
02:53:24 We caught him huffing gas.
02:53:25 So he's been ******* huffing gas for at least a year.
02:53:33 Ah, but he's innocent guys by his magic book.
02:53:39 Totally innocent.
02:53:43 Uh. Let's see here.
02:53:54 And I'm just going through the notes here.
02:53:57 Nothing else sticks out.
02:53:58 The big thing is, though, none of them have ******* alibis.
02:54:01 Literally none of them.
02:54:03 In fact, the the defense attorney.
02:54:07 When asked about that in 2008, I think like.
02:54:11 Well, how come?
02:54:12 Why didn't you guys, you know clearly you guys the only reason why these innocent boys are in jail are because you guys ****** it up.
02:54:22 You ****** ** the.
02:54:24 And you didn't even OfferUp an alibi. And the defense lawyers quote there said this is Paul, Ford said in 2008.
02:54:34 I concluded from my efforts that I did not find successfully what I was looking for for the purposes of establishing alibi.
02:54:43 That I felt that that I felt would not unravel on me.
02:54:47 Which I believe is much more detrimental than not presenting one at all.
02:54:53 And the reason he said that was the alibi that Damien gave him about calling all of his girlfriends.
02:54:59 The police interviewed those girlfriends, and they all said that he was unreachable during the time of the murders.
02:55:06 And in fact, some of them had called the house that he was supposedly at.
02:55:09 He didn't answer, and when he did finally answer.
02:55:12 They said ohh.
02:55:13 He explained his absence by saying he was out walking literally exactly during the time of the murders.
02:55:19 Literally the time that that other fan that car load of of of people saw him at the side of the road at the at the place of the murders.
Speaker 44
02:55:30 But none of that was in.
Devon
02:55:31 The documentary because of left wing meme magic.
02:55:34 All right guys.
02:55:35 So hopefully that's been fun.
02:55:39 That was a that was a lot of info.
02:55:41 I had to get through and there's.
Speaker 11
02:55:43 And look, there's more.
Devon
02:55:44 There is more.
02:55:44 There's a lot of stuff I left out just because you know of time and there's.
02:55:52 I don't think I messed anything.
02:55:55 I'm pretty sure I got everything right.
02:55:57 All that document, like I said, all that documentation is is available.
02:56:00 Still you can find it.
02:56:01 You can look it up.
02:56:03 You can find those those inner the confession tapes online. You can remember these are old. I mean, these are stuff they were recorded to cassette in 1993 and then transferred digitally by some ******. You know what I mean? So it's all horrible quality and everything.
02:56:19 But it's it's, you know, it's there. You can hear it. You can. You can. You can at least decipher the voices. All the interview notes have been scanned in. All that stuff's available.
02:56:32 And like I said, and most damning was his.
02:56:36 His psychiatric.
02:56:38 Evaluations over the last or the the the two years prior to the murders.
02:56:44 So let me take a look at chat here.
Speaker 1
02:56:49 Da da da da da patao.
Speaker 11
02:56:52 Go into the tip chats.
Devon
02:56:58 Excuse me, all right.
Speaker 11
02:57:00 First one, purge all pedophiles at all costs.
Devon
02:57:04 Did you ever watch the vote Democrat 4 minute video I sent on Wednesday keep up the good work I downloaded.
02:57:14 I don't think I watched.
02:57:15 It, like I said, I all I've done.
02:57:19 I haven't even slept much since Wednesday.
02:57:21 I have just been like reading through hundreds of pages of psychiatric evaluation papers, and because I didn't know I I don't want to, you know, and I still don't know.
02:57:31 I don't know.
02:57:33 That these guys are 100% guilty.
02:57:36 But I'm pretty.
02:57:37 ******* sure.
02:57:38 OK.
02:57:39 And but I wanted to be pretty ******* sure before I went and and and went with it like this because well, you know, you want to be sure.
02:57:49 And after going through all this stuff, you're just like ****.
02:57:51 I can't believe the documentary.
02:57:52 I mean, these guys are.
02:57:54 They're they're probably like.
02:57:57 I'm only kind of joking.
02:57:58 They're probably satanists.
02:58:00 Like I'm only kind of joking.
02:58:02 They're probably, literally satanists.
02:58:04 They were like, guess why do that?
02:58:06 Why do that other than to prove that you can?
02:58:11 To go to a small town?
02:58:13 Nothing case that literally would not have made national news.
02:58:18 Had you not forced it into the national line?
02:58:22 Why go to a small town in Arkansas?
02:58:25 With your HBO film crew.
02:58:29 And then target.
02:58:30 One of the the fathers.
02:58:33 And try the entire time to get these these people off.
02:58:40 Why else do that other than to show that you can?
02:58:48 $20 from Vivian. I appreciate.
02:58:50 It Vivian. Good name.
02:58:53 It's a family name and or I've I've got.
02:58:57 Got relatives named Vivian.
02:59:01 $10 from electric Cat Hi Devin really enjoyed the stream. As always, there's a donation to the cause. I make electronic music, which you can download for free and you give the link there. Please feel free to use in the future streams.
02:59:17 Stay strong.
02:59:18 Best wishes from the UK.
02:59:19 I will copy that link.
02:59:22 And I will stick it in my very long notes here.
Speaker 15
02:59:27 That's the wrong one.
Devon
02:59:30 Where's my show notes?
02:59:32 There we are.
02:59:34 I have too many notes now because of this ******* thing.
02:59:36 I had to have so many documents ready to go for this string.
02:59:42 All right.
02:59:45 1488 from RJ Macready.
02:59:48 Hey, appreciate it, dear TV.
02:59:50 Uncle Devin, thank you for your advice.
02:59:53 Last weekend on anal ******.
02:59:56 I'm sure everyone is on board with your stance as they follow up.
02:59:59 What do you think of oral ******?
03:00:01 Is it harmless enough or wrong?
03:00:03 And while you're at it, what about ************?
03:00:07 Is there too much?
03:00:08 Well, is it the sex Ed class?
03:00:10 I don't know.
03:00:11 But I'll say this.
03:00:12 I mean I.
03:00:16 I think if you're married to someone.
03:00:19 Getting a ******* is not like.
03:00:22 This is me personally.
03:00:24 I know there's people that would disagree.
03:00:26 I I I don't think **** **** are gonna.
03:00:28 You're gonna go to hell for ******** from your wife.
03:00:31 UM.
03:00:34 If that's, I think that's what you're getting at.
03:00:37 ************ I I think is is I think you should be no FAP all the time.
03:00:44 And I know that sounds untenable.
03:00:48 To a lot of.
03:00:48 People, but I mean, come on.
03:00:51 ************ is not.
03:00:52 As as widely accepted as it is now, like until very very recently.
03:00:59 And this claim?
03:01:00 Well, everyone was doing it.
03:01:01 They just weren't talking about it.
03:01:03 No, not everyone was doing it.
03:01:05 You know, I'm sure everyone had done it at some point, right?
03:01:09 But not everyone was was jacking off the **** every ******* day or several times a day nowadays, right?
03:01:15 That that not even close.
03:01:18 Not even close.
03:01:21 And so while I don't think you're going to burn in hell if.
03:01:23 You've done it before, at least.
03:01:25 I hope not, or I'm going to hell.
03:01:28 It's certainly not a.
03:01:31 It's not an acceptable thing at all.
03:01:34 It drains you of your of.
03:01:36 Your drive of your sex drive?
03:01:39 It neuters you.
03:01:41 It it it it's.
03:01:43 It is not like out of.
03:01:44 Some like weird magical.
03:01:47 Chemical reaction or something like that.
03:01:49 So no, it's just if you know why, why?
03:01:55 Why go out for milk?
03:01:56 If you got a cow at home.
03:01:59 You know what I mean?
03:01:59 Like it.
03:02:00 It's it's.
03:02:01 You need to have that, that sex drive, that healthy sex drive.
03:02:05 We're not ******* monkeys or what are those?
03:02:08 What are?
03:02:08 They're not chimps.
03:02:09 What are those ******* bonobos?
03:02:11 We're not ******* bonobos.
Speaker
03:02:15 UM.
Devon
03:02:17 $4 from ******** ****** talk to lefties on Ukraine. I think you're saying lefties.
03:02:24 Said despite US invading more countries caused more death and destruction compared to what?
03:02:32 Russia has done they still claim Russia is more evil than the US because their invasion is for blood and soil.
03:02:40 Leftists are ******* scum.
03:02:43 Yeah, I mean.
03:02:46 Until Putin wipes out 250,000 children, he's not even like in the same.
03:02:54 Bracket of evil that the United States is in.
03:03:00 We killed 250. That's we killed.
Speaker 39
03:03:03 1/4 of.
Devon
03:03:03 Its estimate, but like it's an accepted estimate, 1/4 of a million Iraqi children.
03:03:11 And that's just, that's just want, that's just part of it.
03:03:13 That's just a tiny part of a much larger picture.
03:03:16 And we're talking.
03:03:18 We've killed millions of people over the in the last century in countries we had absolutely no business.
03:03:24 And you know, you could even argue that we have less business being in than Russia has being in Ukraine.
03:03:33 And they're just not willing. Look, they spurred out like, remember when when Trump was running for president in 2016 and he made the comment that, hey, you know, like, and it was kind of, it seemed like a throw away line to like a normal person. And he made the comment that, you know, this is this is.
03:03:52 Trump running for president?
03:03:53 Not when he sounded way more based than I when Trump was press.
03:03:57 And he said, hey, you think we're angels?
03:03:59 We're no angels, you know, like, we it's not like we we can do no wrong.
03:04:03 And the press freaked out and saying like, oh, that's so unpresidential.
03:04:07 Like usually, you know, that that's not something you would say in public.
03:04:11 It's like, well, it's the truth.
03:04:12 Everyone gets it.
03:04:15 Ever. It's it's now you're.
03:04:16 Crazy if you don't say it and just leftists.
Speaker 39
03:04:18 Are crazy.
Devon
03:04:20 I mean they they are just literally crazy.
03:04:23 They don't have any.
03:04:24 They don't have any.
03:04:26 Principles at all.
03:04:27 It's all just they're all just being their firmware is just you're just want.
03:04:30 That's what you're you're arguing with firmware.
03:04:34 You can't argue with firmware.
03:04:35 You can flash it.
03:04:37 But not if you don't have like the encryption keys, you don't have the encryption keys, so arguing with a leftist about anything like this is it's.
03:04:48 You know it's pointless.
Speaker
03:04:50 UM.
Devon
03:04:53 Hello Devin of Ukraine, Russia and the USA all have wealthy Jewish oligarchs ruling their economies.
03:04:59 Why is the war happening?
03:05:01 Is it just Jewish brawling?
03:05:03 How does the Jew benefit here except for financing the military industrial complex even more?
03:05:09 But that couldn't have been done.
03:05:12 You think they're the ones fighting?
03:05:16 Do you think any of the oligarchs are are are?
03:05:19 On the battlefield.
03:05:21 Or in any danger.
03:05:30 Look, I don't know these things are decided.
03:05:32 I'm and I was.
03:05:33 I'm not even implying that it's some kind of, like, Jewish pact.
03:05:36 I've never said that.
03:05:37 What I said was.
03:05:39 The Russian oligarchs.
03:05:42 Could accurately be described and it's just true.
03:05:44 Like, you know, statistically speaking.
03:05:48 Generally speaking, it would be just as accurate to call them Jewish oligarchs because the percentage of the Russian oligarchs that are Jewish.
03:05:58 Is crazy high.
03:06:02 You can say similar things about the United States.
03:06:05 I think it's actually higher though in, in, in Russia, I don't have the exact number.
03:06:09 Maybe that's something I can I can.
03:06:11 You know, I can look up.
03:06:13 I know that I would have looked up.
03:06:16 Russian oligarchs in the past when looking up stuff related to like Biden, Ukraine like this was years ago.
03:06:23 I was I was digging up dirt on, you know, like the uranium one stuff.
03:06:28 You know, this is several years ago and every Russian oligarch that came up with all that, they were all Jewish.
03:06:36 Like everyone that that came.
03:06:38 And then I read some article and it was a pro. It was, it was happy about it. It wasn't like anti-Semitic. It was like bragging. It was like basically a Jewish author bragging.
03:06:49 That so many of the oligarchs, I don't.
03:06:51 Think you can call them oligarchs?
03:06:52 But you know, I mean, we're in Russia, we're Jewish.
03:06:56 And I said that Ukraine.
03:06:59 Isn't a Nazi country, and that in fact their their president is a Jewish comedian and he is.
03:07:08 He's literally a Jewish comedian.
03:07:10 He's literally like it.
03:07:12 As if we it would be as if we elected John Stewart.
03:07:17 He was a political comedian.
03:07:21 He leveraged that in actually becoming president.
03:07:25 And maybe with the help of the CIA, I mean, I don't know, right. Who knows, right. If our elections aren't real, then I highly, highly doubt Ukraine's are.
03:07:37 They're hardly a a Nazi state is what I was saying, and that some of the Ukrainian oligarchs are also Jewish.
03:07:46 So nothing about that means that they can't have.
03:07:51 You know that Russia can't have an interest in having a land bridge.
03:07:54 To Crimea, or that they don't want NATO?
03:08:00 To to be influencing a country that borders them like Ukraine.
03:08:05 That Ukraine doesn't.
03:08:07 It doesn't mean that Ukraine does not have any strategic interest.
03:08:12 For Russia and by Russia, I mean the Russian oligarchs.
03:08:17 You know, they're not all on on, on.
03:08:19 They're not all on the same.
03:08:22 Basketball team, you know, it's not as simple as that.
03:08:27 But world jewelry does exist, absolutely.
03:08:30 And I would hazard a guess.
03:08:33 That when, however this is resolved.
03:08:36 You're not going to have any dead Jewish oligarchs.
03:08:40 And you're not going to have any impoverished Jewish oligarchs.
03:08:44 So however this however this shakes out.
03:08:49 The people that are going to pay for it aren't going to be Jewish or non Jewish oligarchs.
03:08:56 They're going to be the people that.
03:08:59 You know that that fight the wars for them.
03:09:02 So why would it matter?
Speaker 40
03:09:04 You know.
Devon
03:09:06 UM.
03:09:10 Let's see here, Maelstrom.
03:09:11 Did you see the video of the speaker in the Canadian Parliament freak out when a House member asked how much of the Canadian parliament had been infiltrated by?
03:09:22 The schwabs wef.
03:09:24 And immediately turned.
03:09:25 Yeah, I saw that video.
03:09:28 I think I think we might have played that a few streams ago.
03:09:33 Mark SP $1.00 appreciated in the 90s there needed to be a very special episode for Conservative sitcoms where the Father and Son realized they don't hate their neighborhood or their neighbor for being black, but rather hate that statistically black people bring crime and property values.
03:09:52 Down, but reiterate they don't hate them for their.
03:09:55 Well, that'd be fine.
03:09:56 If there was such a thing as conservative sitcoms.
03:10:00 This is what I mean by the leftist meme industrial complex.
03:10:05 The right has nothing on these people.
03:10:08 The reason why a documentary series.
03:10:11 That culminates in a fourth documentary by Peter ******* Jackson.
03:10:16 The reason that happened.
03:10:19 Is it wasn't because of conservatives.
03:10:21 There's no conservatives involved in the making it of any of that ****.
03:10:25 And not only that, they have no way of counteracting it.
03:10:29 They have no infrastructure.
03:10:32 They've always thought of that as a waste.
03:10:33 Oh, that's for those ******* art ****.
03:10:36 That's for those ******* drama, kid Fagots.
03:10:38 Why would I want to invest any money in that?
03:10:42 I'm all about the free market.
03:10:46 I don't know about profits.
03:10:47 I'm all about ******* moving the jobs over to India.
03:10:51 Let's move the the ******* plant over to Mexico.
Speaker 11
03:10:55 **** my people.
Devon
03:11:02 By and large, conservatives are a bunch of cultureless *********.
03:11:06 I mean, every time they've tried to make movies, it's laughable.
03:11:09 It's ******* cringe.
03:11:10 And ******* ******.
03:11:12 We've gone over a few of these.
03:11:14 There was that one with with Chris Farley after he was dead.
03:11:20 His ******* kind of looks like him, brother.
03:11:24 And there have been other attempts.
03:11:26 But they suck at it.
03:11:28 They ******* suck at it, and part of the reasons reason why they suck at it is fundamentally conservatives are dishonest people.
03:11:39 They're dishonest people.
03:11:44 You know, like I've said before, the boomers are so excited about the, you know, the the based black guy, not because of any other reason that he's been forced to hold a a belief in his head that he doesn't actually believe.
03:12:00 Since the ******* 1960s that we're all the same, something that conflicts with everything he's able to observe in the universe.
03:12:06 And so when there's someone finally someone that maybe kind of goes along with this, this, this wrong idea that he's been forcing brute force, making his brain believe, finally he feels the relief and he throws money at them like he's *******, you know, a slot machine.
03:12:25 Because they're dishonest people.
03:12:30 And art.
03:12:32 Good art.
03:12:35 Requires honesty.
03:12:38 And courage.
03:12:42 It just does.
03:12:46 Even the leftist memes, like I say, they're being honest in a way, in a tricky way.
03:12:54 You've heard the term.
03:12:55 It's funny because it's true.
03:12:59 Narratives are only interesting if they have some element of truth.
03:13:04 Like you, you.
03:13:05 Look at that look, the left is losing.
03:13:06 The ability to do this.
03:13:09 You look at the ham fisted attempts at propaganda that they they've done.
03:13:12 I mean what we just watched, that's from like the 90s and **** like that when they still had it.
03:13:18 But you look at, you know, even the latest installment was from 2011.
03:13:22 Right.
03:13:23 You look at some of this new stuff they're making and and it's it's basically like the left wing version of what?
03:13:28 A conservative would make.
03:13:30 Just dogmatic and ******* ******** with no truth in it.
03:13:33 No, no courage.
03:13:34 It just it's just *******.
03:13:36 It's it's heavy-handed and and not interesting.
03:13:46 And that's how conservatives every time when they attempt art, it's like it's just bad.
03:13:52 Part of it is, I think just the you.
03:13:54 Know this what side of your brain?
03:13:56 Is more developed.
03:13:58 You know the same reason why you don't see a whole lot of leftists.
03:14:02 Who are really, really good at logic, you know.
03:14:06 Saying it's just the opposite end of that.
03:14:12 But yeah there.
03:14:12 Is there the reason why you see that?
03:14:14 There's there's, there's.
03:14:15 There's no concern of sitcoms.
03:14:18 Never have been, never have been.
03:14:21 Deharo, can you do a video on West The West Wing?
03:14:26 I really, I really don't want to watch that.
03:14:31 You know, I don't know.
03:14:32 That's I really don't think I'd like I I've seen parts of that anyway.
03:14:37 Like I I watched a few episodes and saw the show.
03:14:42 Is saturated with high verbal IQ Jewish sophistry?
03:14:45 Ohh yeah.
03:14:45 No, that's that's why.
03:14:46 I don't want to watch it.
03:14:52 It's the kind of it's the programming that's for the the slight, it's for the mid wits. It's not for the *******. Like a lot of TV's, for just the ******* *******.
03:15:04 This is the kind of stuff that I find least or or most annoying.
03:15:09 I can handle the ****** stuff right, like because it's made for.
03:15:12 Cards it it's it's somehow like less offensive because you just know well it's it's just it's ********.
03:15:18 But when they're trying to to slather on this veneer of intellect and it's so it's so insulting to anyone that's actually intelligent when you when you listen to it you're just like.
03:15:33 And you know, and part of it is.
03:15:35 It's like the opposite, like I've talked about how a lot of shock humor.
03:15:39 Right.
03:15:39 What's funny is in your head, you're imagining the person.
Speaker 11
03:15:43 Like when you were younger and you'd.
Devon
03:15:44 Watch South Park and they.
03:15:46 Do like you know, was like a *******.
03:15:47 **** joke or something?
Speaker 11
03:15:48 You knew? Oh my God.
03:15:50 My mom heard that she'd be so.
Devon
03:15:52 Offended, you know, like you know.
03:15:53 There's a whole character in that show.
03:15:55 Just like the Kyle's mom. What? What? What? You know that kind?
03:15:58 Of a thing, the whole the whole point.
03:16:01 The whole reason why that shock humor and shock jocks any any kind of shock?
03:16:05 He's funny, he's knowing.
03:16:07 Ohh is there's someone listening to this and it's ******* them off, right?
03:16:11 Well, it's it's, it's the.
03:16:12 Opposite end, like when I watch that it's like.
03:16:16 I know someone's listening to it and they're getting smug.
03:16:21 You know what I mean?
03:16:22 Like, they're like, they take that conservatives, you know, like and it's.
03:16:26 Like oh God.
03:16:29 Ah, and so like it has like the opposite effect of like instead of able to enjoy something knowing that my enemy is angry with it.
03:16:36 It's like it's.
03:16:37 Enraging because I know my enemies like like all smug and smiley like.
Speaker 11
03:16:43 That's right.
03:16:44 We're the smart ones.
Devon
03:16:46 And it's just.
03:16:47 I can't.
03:16:48 I can't.
03:16:49 I really can't.
03:16:53 Oh ****.
03:16:54 Live chat just ******* died altogether.
03:16:59 And I pop it out.
03:17:04 OK, pop, that's got it.
03:17:05 Popped it out and it works.
03:17:09 OK, but yeah, I'll, I'll, you know, we'll see.
03:17:14 I I don't think I will though, because it's just I can't.
03:17:18 It would just be infuriating.
03:17:21 May may I don't know.
03:17:23 I don't know.
03:17:25 Never say never, I guess, but.
03:17:28 I'm not.
03:17:28 That's not high on my list.
03:17:34 Let's see here.
03:17:37 Yeah, you mentioned that it's the.
03:17:38 It's the exactly.
03:17:40 I see why this show is popular among high income, elite liberal crowds.
03:17:43 You find New York.
03:17:45 It's it's popular among the people I hate most in the world.
03:17:51 So it's like ah.
03:17:53 But anyway, yeah, it would just, it'd be painful.
03:17:59 JLP moose, $10 per state it you just said Jawbox, well I.
03:18:03 Appreciate the Jew Bucks.
03:18:05 Deharo 1400, Speaking of The West Wing, the leftist Jew who made that show, Aaron Sorkin, also made another political movie, the trial of the Chicago Seven, which features Sasha Baron, Baron Cohen as Abby Hoffman, someone who you have mentioned a previous.
03:18:24 Oh God, that's probably really bad.
03:18:26 He'd make a good Abby Hoffman, though.
03:18:28 I mean, they both look very Jewry in the same kind of a way.
03:18:33 So that would you know.
Speaker 22
03:18:35 We'll have to see.
Devon
03:18:37 I don't care. 150 holy ****.
03:18:40 You know, actually write that down.
03:18:41 Chicago seven.
03:18:42 Yeah, that.
Speaker 23
03:18:43 That's my notes here.
Devon
03:18:45 My very long notes.
Speaker 22
03:18:52 UM.
Devon
03:18:56 Holy ****, Devin.
03:18:57 The first thing that came to my mind watching this was they say tannic, Christmas woodland critters from South Park.
03:19:05 I'm sure this is where they got the idea from.
03:19:09 You said that 48 minutes ago.
03:19:12 I don't know what you're talking about necessarily.
03:19:18 Yeah, OK, person, of course, Hollywood comes crawling when a satanist is in trouble.
03:19:26 Birds of a feather flock together.
03:19:30 Magic, tech.
03:19:31 Uh are you are.
Speaker 11
03:19:32 You a witch.
Devon
03:19:34 Are you a witch? Appreciate the $25 if even if you're a witch, are you planning on doing a stream about Ukraine?
03:19:42 You know, I I just feel like there's so many people that don't know what they're talking about doing that and.
03:19:47 And to be honest, I don't.
03:19:49 It's hard to know what you're talking about with this because it.
03:19:52 Really depends on.
03:19:53 You know what official source you listen to right now during conflicts like this, it's really difficult, especially when our media is already ******, right?
03:20:02 I mean, I wouldn't believe the mainstream media, no matter what they would talk about, but the, the the difference is.
03:20:10 Like when you have things happen stateside in America, you can rely heavily sometimes on alternative media because there's people that are at the events that have, like their phones, and they have, you know, there's there's outlets that are a little more credible than CNN that are just really just some do with a YouTube channel or whatever, right.
03:20:31 But it's that's not, you know, in a war zone that's not really happening.
03:20:36 So you're limited by whoever the official talking heads are.
03:20:41 You know, from the the Russian state media, which obviously would have a lot of reasons to make things up.
03:20:48 Ukrainian media, which obvious same thing would have lots of reasons to make things up, and the American media.
03:20:56 Yeah, every every media has a lot of reasons to make **** up and.
03:21:03 I don't think the people who aren't in intelligence agencies.
03:21:08 Really have a good grasp on what's.
03:21:11 Happening right now.
03:21:13 So I've just, you know, for right now I've kind of.
03:21:16 I've kind of left it left it alone, I mean.
03:21:19 I keep an eye on.
03:21:20 It not so much last couple days.
03:21:22 Be honest, I've been so.
03:21:23 Involved with this this stream.
03:21:26 But I I you know, I keep checking headlines and make sure nothing major has changed.
03:21:32 And eventually I think we'll get around.
03:21:33 To it, but.
03:21:34 I I talked last stream extensively about what I think about everything.
03:21:39 I just don't want it to be, you know.
03:21:42 It's not.
03:21:43 I'm not.
03:21:43 I'm not a subject matter expert in.
03:21:49 You know Eastern European wars and.
03:21:52 A lot of the.
03:21:53 People claiming to be are not either.
03:21:55 RJ Mac ready 1488. Appreciate it. Ask the sheep for their belief. Do you kill on God's command? A country that's divided surely will not stand. My past erased. No more disgrace. No foolish, naive.
03:22:13 No foolish, naive stand.
03:22:15 The end is near.
03:22:16 It's crystal clear part of the master plan.
03:22:20 Don't look now to Israel.
03:22:22 It might be your homeland.
03:22:24 Holy wars.
03:22:27 Israel will never be my homeland.
Speaker 22
03:22:35 Septia 7.
Devon
03:22:37 Check out Apollos artifacts channel for more on the so-called Satanic panic.
03:22:46 Everyone you can do that and I may do that at some point.
03:22:49 I'm all.
03:22:49 I'm all satanic, panicked out, though now.
03:22:52 Yeah, don't care.
03:22:53 I was hoping someone mentioned this.
03:22:54 I actually.
03:22:55 Alright, so your comment is sticks.
03:22:57 Come on, man, it's just the satanic panic, bro.
03:23:00 When I used to watch sticks, I lost count of how many times he kept randomly bringing up the satanic panic on his videos about politics, boiling it down to crazy Christians bed.
03:23:09 Satanist didn't do nothing wrong.
03:23:11 Well, yeah, I I actually.
03:23:13 I really I I considered ******** on sticks throughout this video because I knew I I guarantee you his view of this is is the same as HBO's.
03:23:28 Oh, they they were just good kids that like Metallica and and he just parrots that same ****.
03:23:34 Because he's a ******* weirdo who writes weirdo magic books.
03:23:41 He was probably he might even have a psychological file on him that that looks similar to Damien Echols.
03:23:54 So you know.
03:23:56 Birds of a feather right first last $15 per share. It's becoming clear to everyone worldwide why the majority of Jews are so sick and twisted sexually, morally, spiritually, socially.
03:24:09 Et cetera.
03:24:09 I wonder what the solution to this globe, this global problem?
Speaker 11
03:24:14 Look, they've got.
Devon
03:24:15 Israel, they're welcome to go live there and.
03:24:21 Run it on their own without our money.
03:24:24 Jack the Savant $60.00 appreciate it as they raised Mormon Nat SoC living in Arizona listening to your streams is like listening to my own thoughts.
03:24:35 It's cathartic.
03:24:36 Here's my six month subscription.
03:24:39 Since I have a hard time catching you live.
03:24:41 Also, what video in your catalog?
03:24:44 You talk about my favorite comedy.
03:24:48 His girl Friday.
03:24:52 Uh, I I did, didn't I?
03:24:56 That sounds familiar.
03:24:58 I'm going to have to look up that.
03:25:01 I don't know which one that is.
03:25:03 But I do know I.
03:25:06 That's the one that's.
03:25:07 The one with Cary Grant, right.
03:25:08 Let me look it up.
03:25:12 Yeah, that one is horrible.
03:25:13 Yeah, it is the Kerry grant one.
03:25:16 Uh, ****.
03:25:17 What was that one?
03:25:21 I don't know.
03:25:22 I don't know at the top of my head.
03:25:25 I would think that I would have incorporated it somehow in the in the thumbnail.
03:25:29 I usually do that with the movies.
03:25:31 I usually if it's.
03:25:32 You know, I usually do something, but I don't.
03:25:35 I don't remember.
03:25:35 It's it's.
03:25:37 It's been a while.
03:25:38 It's been a while.
03:25:41 Maybe someone in chat knows if someone in chat knows let Jack the savant know.
03:25:48 Disorder 14 are Jews just asset stripping the US and moving their operations to China for the next great empire.
03:25:56 Or is it more nefarious than that?
03:25:58 I don't know.
03:25:59 I don't know.
03:26:01 I do look, I have heard very powerful people on the record.
03:26:07 Say things to the effect that you know it's no longer America's turn to the top. Like I don't I.
03:26:14 I'm I'm paraphrasing, but I have and I wish I had like an example I could pull up real quick.
03:26:21 It's just my brains all say panic or satanic panicked out.
03:26:27 But yeah, I I I know for a fact that and it's.
03:26:30 Not just Jews.
03:26:31 I mean, there's just a lot of ruling class people that.
03:26:34 Yeah, it's America is not.
03:26:38 Is no longer number one.
03:26:39 We're on the way out.
03:26:41 And so just anyone that has any kind of investments, I mean, ****, I mean, even small time investors are investing heavily in, in China.
03:26:49 So just imagine what big time investors are doing.
03:26:54 I don't know it.
03:26:55 I don't know.
03:26:56 It's it's hard to know what what happens in the minds.
03:26:59 Of these people.
03:27:00 I do not have a crystal ball.
Speaker 51
03:27:06 Wigged out on.
Devon
03:27:07 I gotta Scroll down some more.
Speaker 44
03:27:10 Here we go.
Devon
03:27:16 Bear trap, $5. Appreciate it. Hey, bro, I want to thank you for your realism. Can you see if you can dig up some more **** on that meta?
03:27:27 I think they're trying to funnel us towards it.
03:27:31 Thanks all, my love.
03:27:32 No ****.
03:27:33 Take care of yourself.
03:27:34 You talking about meta?
03:27:34 As in like Facebook Meta.
03:27:39 I you know, I did a thing on that.
03:27:41 My honestly, I don't think it's going to be successful.
03:27:45 I think it's going to be.
03:27:47 Like the new half life like it'll might be.
03:27:50 It might be.
03:27:51 It's gonna be more successful in half life.
Speaker 11
03:27:54 But just it's the technology is not there yet.
Devon
03:27:57 It's still kind of gay, like no one wants to ******* put 3D glasses on and then hang out with avatars.
03:28:04 You know, they just don't want.
03:28:06 To do that now, if you.
03:28:07 Get it to where?
03:28:09 You don't have to put something on like.
03:28:11 It's like a chip in the head or.
03:28:14 Or maybe it's, you know, projected into your eyeballs somehow.
03:28:17 Like it's something you don't have to wear like this.
03:28:19 Big goofy helmet.
03:28:21 That's that's a huge obstacle right there.
03:28:24 The 2nd obstacle is it's disorienting, not being aware of your your actual surroundings while in the fake surroundings, like when you're playing, even when you're playing a video game, even if you're like tunnel visioned in that video game.
03:28:39 You're aware of your surroundings to some extent, right?
03:28:42 And there's something unnerving about not being aware of your real surroundings.
03:28:46 Like if you're a a a man at least, or I would imagine women too.
03:28:51 Like there's something that feels slightly unsafe.
03:28:54 About not.
03:28:56 Knowing about what you what you know what's going on around you.
03:29:00 And so I just think there's just there's too many weird things like that.
03:29:03 The fact that the graphics have to suck like they have, they do suck.
03:29:07 They have to suck though in order to perform on any kind of hardware that anyone, including the servers, right that anyone would have.
03:29:15 And there's just so many things that just it's not ready.
03:29:19 And they'll probably try it.
03:29:21 They'll try to push it on people.
03:29:22 It'll be mildly, you know, they'll they'll claim success.
03:29:25 But more than anything, it's like a research project.
03:29:28 They're going to learn more about, like, what does work and what doesn't work.
03:29:31 There's going to be elements just like every time they they drag out the 3D virtual world stuff, they learn more, they get, you know, the technology.
03:29:39 It's better each time and and they they learn lessons from each iteration, but it's, you know, I don't.
03:29:45 I don't see.
03:29:47 Us living in like the ******* metaverse anytime soon.
03:29:51 Maybe in 10 years, I don't know.
03:29:53 But it's not there yet.
03:29:55 It's not there yet.
Speaker 23
03:29:59 Uh. Let's see here.
Devon
03:30:02 RJ Mac ready. They cry in the dark so you can't see their tears. They hide in the light so you can't see their fears.
03:30:10 Forgive and forget all the while love and pain become one and same in the eyes of a wounded child.
03:30:18 The people waxing poetic tonight.
03:30:25 Deja or Teja or teha.
03:30:28 Hey, what about the what about Animal Farm?
03:30:31 I don't know.
03:30:31 What about animal farm?
03:30:37 Don't care 150 probably coincidence. But that Damian guy looks like that lesbian Jewish lawyer Roberta Kaplan that went after the people who went to Charlottesville and defended Harvey Weinstein from his accusers.
03:30:57 What does she look like?
03:30:57 I wouldn't.
03:30:58 I don't think she would look like him.
Speaker
03:31:01 Let me see.
Speaker 49
03:31:03 What does she look like?
Devon
03:31:12 No, I mean, she looks ugly.
03:31:15 Like a guy.
03:31:16 Kind of she's.
03:31:18 She has masculine features, but I'll pull it up.
03:31:24 I don't see how she looks like.
Speaker 23
03:31:30 That guy.
Devon
03:31:34 Some of you artists with face blindness, man.
Speaker 23
03:31:41 See if I can bring this up.
Speaker 35
03:31:53 Where that file go to?
Speaker
03:32:01 Here we go.
Devon
03:32:06 Yeah, I don't think she looks like him.
03:32:12 Bring up his.
03:32:14 His mug shot? Why not?
03:32:28 I don't know, maybe a little bit.
03:32:31 Who knows?
03:32:31 Maybe they're the same.
03:32:33 The same.
03:32:35 Phenotype of some sort but.
03:32:39 It might just be that angle.
03:32:45 All right, we're the.
03:32:48 I've lost my chat thing here we.
03:32:50 Go page of the North prediction on the US convoy.
03:32:54 Do you think it will fade away?
03:32:55 Go the similar route like Canada or end up worse.
03:32:59 I'm thinking it'll be similar to Canada.
03:33:01 It'll be a party for a couple of weeks and got shut down.
03:33:05 I don't know that they'll even.
03:33:06 I mean, they're they're plan is, as far as I know is to go to.
03:33:09 We see.
03:33:11 I don't think they're going to be allowed to.
03:33:14 Set up shop in DC.
03:33:15 They might find an alternative place to go, but I don't.
03:33:19 I don't think they're going.
03:33:20 To be allowed anywhere in DC.
03:33:23 They'll be.
03:33:25 They'll be, you know, Secret Service and and people like that will.
03:33:29 And Capitol police will make sure that they're not.
03:33:32 And maybe, maybe National Guard, too, will make sure they're not setting up shop.
03:33:36 I mean, even even if that means that, just like they did after January 6th, they set up all those ******* barricades and those fences all over DC.
03:33:45 They're a problem doing that.
03:33:46 They'll do that if they feel like they they need to and.
03:33:51 You know it it it'll it'll probably Peter out this it just as.
03:33:56 I don't think it's going to become, I mean, just like the Canada one, it didn't go.
03:34:00 I said it wouldn't go anywhere unless they, you know, I told them how to.
03:34:03 Make it go somewhere.
03:34:07 Knowing that no one was willing to do that and these.
03:34:09 Guys aren't either, so it doesn't matter.
03:34:12 Captain Zeon or xenon, do you think Putin attacked Ukraine to avoid being a victim to a false flag?
03:34:19 I eat a main tank tank control and I don't know.
03:34:22 I don't know.
03:34:23 I don't think I I think that everyone's been look since.
03:34:28 For almost 10 years, everyone's known that Putin wants Ukraine back, so I don't think it was a surprise.
03:34:36 What was surprising was the West stopped taking Russia seriously, which ironically, I think is part of why they want Ukraine back.
03:34:44 As they don't think they're being taken.
03:34:46 As seriously as they once were.
03:34:48 Or at least that's part of.
Speaker 49
03:34:49 It right.
Devon
03:34:51 And and so they were kind of flirting a little too hard.
03:34:56 With allowing the Ukraine to.
03:35:00 To to be part of NATO and and be part of the EU.
03:35:04 And when, when, when Putin had made that very clear, he felt about that.
03:35:13 And look, from a strategic standpoint, I'm not saying I agree with what he did obviously, but from a strategic standpoint, it makes sense that he wouldn't want that.
03:35:23 Anyway, all right.
03:35:26 I feel like I must have missed someone because the.
03:35:32 The total is not matching.
03:35:38 Like you guys have given me more according to the total than.
03:35:42 This I'm just adding this up wrong.
03:35:45 Anyway, I'll go to regular chat for a little bit and maybe it will.
03:35:48 Update and fix itself.
Speaker 45
03:35:50 And I'll go back.
Devon
03:35:55 Uh. Let's see here.
03:35:59 Yeah, Zach Frisby says Putin is doing a spectacle of fearsome ex.
03:36:04 Well, that's what he's attempting.
03:36:06 I've heard, though, that it's not as successful as you might think.
03:36:09 You know, the the, the casualties seem to be mainly on the Russian side, at least for right now, at least from what the the sources I'm able to get.
03:36:15 Who knows that that's even real.
03:36:18 But the sources that I have access to seem to indicate that Russia is suffering much higher losses than perhaps they had anticipated for the entire operation already, and that Ukraine's losses are fairly minimal. Well, as you know, compared.
03:36:34 To the Russian losses, high Priest King Terry, I think it would be great if you could do a stream on Charles Lindbergh.
03:36:42 Now, you mentioned that before.
03:36:45 Yeah, that, that, that's that's still in my notes.
03:36:49 Yeah, he he he does good stuff.
03:36:54 That's always that's.
03:36:55 That's one of those Evergreen topics that's always going to be a good one.
03:36:59 It's just a matter of of when I get around to it.
03:37:03 Someone saying wrong Ukraine is hiding casualties over 10,000. Well, right. Like I said, who knows?
03:37:11 It's impossible to know.
03:37:12 That's why.
03:37:13 That's why I I'm we're not gonna.
03:37:14 We're not gonna do a stream about Ukraine, OK?
03:37:17 Because it's it's impossible to know what's actually happening right now.
Speaker 22
03:37:24 Someone says you have too.
Devon
03:37:24 Many notes, of course.
03:37:25 I only need 2 streams a week and you guys give me like 10 notes each stream.
03:37:30 It's like there there's an imbalance here of how how many things I can actually go through versus how many.
03:37:37 How many things that I get I get told to take?
03:37:40 A look at you know what I didn't do though that I need to do.
03:37:43 I had told someone.
03:37:47 That we would watch a clip even if it was irrelevant.
03:37:51 I said, you know what?
03:37:53 And it probably is.
03:37:55 They sent me a clip.
03:37:57 There was Constantine and they gave me a super chat for it.
03:38:01 I don't think it was for much, but it was.
03:38:03 Still a super chat.
03:38:05 And I said, uh, you know, I don't.
03:38:08 You know, I'm not going to play this right now, but I'll play it next.
03:38:11 Stream. I didn't play it.
03:38:14 I'm going to play that right now.
03:38:17 While I'm remembering.
03:38:18 To play it so let me get this here.
Speaker 19
03:38:22 There we go.
Devon
03:38:24 I have no idea what the context.
Speaker 22
03:38:26 Of this is.
Devon
03:38:28 Or why you wanted me to play this clip?
Speaker 49
03:38:35 But we're going to play it.
03:38:44 And here we go.
Devon
03:38:46 I forget who you were so sorry.
03:38:49 But someone thought it was very important that.
03:38:51 We watched this clip, so here we go.
Speaker 4
03:38:58 And two, is that correct?
Devon
03:39:06 Look, it's the guy who killed all the the the little boys.
03:39:10 That's kind of funny.
03:39:11 It's literally him.
Speaker 8
03:39:31 Your ego is astounding, Gabriel.
Speaker
03:39:39 And the wicked shall inherit the earth.
Speaker 8
03:39:42 You're judging me now, John?
Devon
03:39:47 Yeah, I forgot.
03:39:48 Then I'd I'd seen this a million years ago.
03:39:51 I forgot they made Gabriela a woman.
03:39:53 Well, sort of a woman.
03:39:54 She always.
03:39:55 She's got that.
03:39:57 That I could go either way.
03:39:58 Look about her.
03:39:59 I forget the name of this actress, but it.
03:40:01 Is it's technically a woman.
Speaker 23
03:40:03 Trail murder. Genocide.
03:40:05 Coming provincial.
Speaker 8
03:40:07 I am simply seeking to inspire mankind to all that was intended.
Speaker 23
03:40:11 By handing Earth over to the son of the devil.
Speaker 43
03:40:15 Help me here.
Speaker 8
03:40:21 You handed this.
03:40:23 Precious gift, right?
03:40:26 Each one of you.
03:40:28 Granted, redemption from the creator.
03:40:32 Murderers, rapists and molesters, all of you.
03:40:35 You just have to repent.
03:40:37 And God takes you into his bosom.
03:40:42 In all the worlds in all the universe, no other creature can make such a boast save man.
03:40:50 It's not fair.
03:40:55 If sweet, sweet God loves you so.
03:40:59 Then I'll make you worthy of his love.
03:41:04 I've been watching you for a long time.
03:41:07 It's only in the face of horror that you truly find your noblest self, and you can be so noble.
03:41:21 I'll bring you back.
03:41:24 He'll bring you horror.
03:41:28 So that you may rise above it.
03:41:35 So that those of you who survived this reign of hell on Earth.
03:41:39 Will be worthy of God's love.
Speaker 36
03:41:44 You're insane.
Speaker 8
03:41:48 The road to salvation begins tonight.
03:41:52 Right now.
Speaker 22
03:42:18 Yeah. OK, well.
Speaker 11
03:42:22 I said it might.
Devon
03:42:22 Be irrelevant.
03:42:23 I don't know.
03:42:24 All right, well, I played the clip.
03:42:26 You know.
03:42:28 I forget that I especially out of context, I don't remember the movie.
03:42:32 So you know, I have no idea.
03:42:35 There was nothing in.
03:42:36 There where I was like, oh, deep though.
03:42:41 I play the clip, play the clip.
Speaker 15
03:42:43 All right.
Devon
03:42:50 OK, so the clip has been played.
03:42:54 All right.
03:42:55 Let me go back to the the tipped ones.
03:42:58 It looks like some more came in here.
03:43:01 Or maybe the total just went up.
03:43:02 Something is sucked up with this thing.
03:43:07 Here we go.
03:43:08 Cardiff Dev and two things one or $25 per sheet. One I can no longer listen to Christmas music after your Rudolph stream.
03:43:15 Years ago, when I first started listening to you at the the birth of my JQ and two, your best video of my opinion is the land of my ancestors. I've shared that over and over and over.
03:43:27 With people that hits home with them.
03:43:30 No, I, I I like that one too.
03:43:32 I appreciate that and.
03:43:35 Yeah, I hope.
03:43:36 I hope that that resonates with people, especially people that are found in stock Americans, which is that's I mean, I was just talking about my family history and that's that's why it hurts.
03:43:46 You know, it hurts because it's like.
03:43:49 We're not in a ******* it's hard to tell someone whose family has been here for like ******* 600 years that you're a nation of immigrants. It's like, yeah, maybe, like 600 ******* years ago.
03:44:02 And so it's kind of insulting.
03:44:05 It's insulting when your when your family and you know, even especially you know something about your family history and the **** they went through just to survive in this wilderness that is America.
03:44:17 And then to have these these ******* show up in the last 100 years once everything.
03:44:22 'S built and all nice.
03:44:24 And say oh.
03:44:25 We're immigrants.
03:44:25 We're all like you.
03:44:26 It's like no.
03:44:28 No, we're not alike at all.
03:44:32 And I think I think that resonates with.
03:44:36 With founding stock Americans who don't, who don't think about it that way until they're until you're really.
03:44:42 Asked to.
03:44:44 So I appreciate that.
03:44:46 Alright, go back to normal chat here and I'm gonna wrap things up because we're gonna be if I don't, we're gonna be live for four ******* hours and that's gonna be.
03:44:52 Like this is like the longest stream of all time.
03:44:56 And we we had like I think some of the best numbers tonight we had at one point we had over 1200 people.
03:45:03 What do we got now?
03:45:04 Yeah, we.
03:45:05 Got over 1300 people now.
03:45:09 So good job, guys.
03:45:11 Uh, this is pretty sweet.
03:45:13 It's like one of the longest, most populated streams ever.
03:45:16 And imagine once I get my my space Internet and I'm able to stream not at like the crack of the S.
03:45:24 We're going to have, we're going to have way more people.
03:45:28 Yeah, everyone hit that like button.
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03:45:38 All right, guys.
03:45:39 So I'm actually gonna, I think I'm gonna bail out of here.
03:45:44 And hope you guys all have a good weekend.
03:45:48 Might not be.
03:45:50 Might not be a.
03:45:51 A stream Wednesday might not be a stream Wednesday.
03:45:54 I'll let you guys know on on Telegram and Gab, but might not be a stream Wednesday.
03:46:01 I just have a lot of ****.
03:46:03 I got to get done this week and I've been doing crazy things like.
03:46:09 Doing pulling all nighters like last Wednesday, I did a whole nighter and then had to drive after the stream.
03:46:14 I had to drive 4 hours.
03:46:16 I was just like I was going to ******* die that day.
03:46:19 And then I and then I did this and I did this thing for.
03:46:21 Like I didn't sleep much at all last few.
03:46:23 And I just I might need like a little bit of a break this week, we'll.
03:46:28 See, we'll see how I feel.
03:46:30 But I'll let you guys know on on Gab and Telegram should follow me on both in the meantime.
03:46:36 Hope you guys have a wonderful rest of your weekend for black pilled.
03:46:39 I am of course.
Speaker 11
03:46:41 They're very handsome.
Devon
03:46:44 Dash ain't even.
Speaker 19
03:46:49 I knew from when I was real small that.
03:46:51 People wouldn't know who I was.
03:46:53 I always hate that feeling.
03:46:55 But I just never knew how.
03:46:57 They were going to learn.
03:47:01 I kind of enjoy it because now even after I die, people are going to Remember Me forever.
03:47:06 They're going to talk about me.
03:47:07 For years, people.
03:47:09 In West Memphis will tell their kids stories it it'll be like so like I'm the West Memphis Boogie man.
03:47:17 Little kids will be looking under their.
03:47:18 Bed before they go to bed.
03:47:20 They might be under there.
Speaker 44
03:47:56 Ohh hi guys, it is good.
Speaker 52
03:48:00 To be back with you all again tonight.
03:48:03 Hopefully you can see me and hear me, OK.
03:48:09 The reason that I called this one alchemy.
03:48:12 Is because I kind of wanted to pick up.
03:48:18 Where we left off talking last night, at least for a little while when I was talking about the path of high magic and essentially what it is like the steps of it, and how there is a lot of stuff out there that falls under the category of magic.