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INSOMNIA STREAM: SOMETHING SOMETHING EDITION.mp3

09/26/2021
Speaker 1
00:00:00 I saw you there, just standing there and I thought I was all dreaming.
00:05:04 Like pursue them.
00:05:08 Then once again.
00:05:12 You said you would.
00:05:16 Dance with me.
Speaker
00:05:21 With me.
Speaker 1
00:05:24 Across the sea.
00:05:29 You can feel the motion of 1000 dreams.
00:05:52 It's Saturday night.
00:05:56 Gives such Delilah.
00:06:01 We all leave before.
Speaker
00:06:04 Good morning.
Speaker 1
00:06:09 New song.
00:06:12 No, please don't go.
Speaker 2
00:06:17 I don't want to stay.
Speaker 3
00:06:58 Leave your love on me.
Speaker 1
00:07:07 Me never been.
00:08:17 Come with me.
00:08:21 I make me believe.
00:08:26 We can travel too.
Speaker 4
00:09:28 Take me down.
00:09:42 Not when you go nowhere.
Speaker 6
00:10:05 Watch this.
Speaker 4
00:10:37 Bring it round.
00:10:40 Tyler stream.
Speaker 6
00:10:47 Like nothing.
Speaker 4
00:11:35 I'm talking.
00:11:43 Watch this.
00:11:55 Down safe and sound stronger.
00:12:34 OK.
Devon
00:13:06 Good evening.
00:13:07 Good morning, good afternoon.
00:13:10 Welcome to.
00:13:12 The Odyssey version of Insomnia Stream, which?
00:13:16 Is a little different.
00:13:18 You know it.
00:13:19 It's all right.
00:13:19 It's OK.
00:13:20 We can. We can.
00:13:23 Navigate some of these differences.
00:13:25 For one, you know in terms of like how it's different.
00:13:29 For me, I can't just hit, go live and then I'm live.
00:13:34 I have to wait until over.
00:13:36 I have to create like a stream and then I have to, you know, make a a thumbnail for it.
00:13:41 And you know, it's probably just.
00:13:43 Eric one I can use and then change it.
00:13:46 At least I'm pretty sure that you can do that.
00:13:49 And then you can then he has to confirm, which tonight took a little bit of time.
00:13:55 For some reason.
00:13:55 It usually doesn't take that long.
00:13:57 And then you can.
00:14:00 Start streaming after all of that's done.
00:14:05 Not not, you know.
00:14:08 I I enjoyed the the other way of streaming where I could just hit go live.
00:14:13 Or it would just.
00:14:15 Start going, but that's fine.
00:14:17 Now we can work through these things.
00:14:19 Odyssey seems like so for those who don't know, apparently trovo banned like 30 people at once.
00:14:29 And you know, for for hate speech, you know, whether or not, I mean, look, we don't.
00:14:35 I I'm sure we know what ethnicity is behind behind it.
00:14:39 I don't know what group specifically motivated that or why they chose to do it now, but we all kind of knew it was coming right we all.
00:14:47 Kind of knew it was coming.
00:14:50 We knew that they'll never.
00:14:54 Well, in terms of Trovo, we knew that they would probably behave in the same way D live did right where they'll allow controversial streamers on their platform long enough to acquire audience members.
00:15:08 And then as soon as they feel like they've acquired enough audience members from those people, they show them the door.
00:15:14 Or rather, they, you know, very they they forced them out the door.
00:15:20 And oftentimes, you know, stealing monetization, they might have.
00:15:25 Had or whatever.
00:15:26 So it it's like a good deal for trovo.
00:15:28 Right.
00:15:29 And for Delive, Delive did the same thing.
00:15:32 And you know, you could even say, you know, YouTube, although you know, YouTube was a lot bigger, obviously.
00:15:42 I have a little more trust in Odyssey, the CEO of Odyssey has been, at least, you know, if he.
00:15:52 Sticks to his word.
00:15:54 In the in the same realm as as like an Andrew Korbo with Gab kind of a viewpoint on speech and everything else.
00:16:04 Now I don't know how that's going to continue.
00:16:08 I you know, I think they have an app in the App Store just as an example.
00:16:12 So does that mean that their apps going to get?
00:16:15 Kicked out of the App Store.
00:16:18 Does that mean that, you know they can't get a payment processor like there's going to be other forces trying to strong arm them into?
00:16:27 Kicking people off.
00:16:28 I don't know.
00:16:29 I mean, how immune are they by using their own crypto stuff?
00:16:32 I don't know. Are they going to be ****** at the crypto market struggles, which which something's going on right now, right?
00:16:40 I don't know.
00:16:42 I don't know.
00:16:42 I know as much as you guys do.
00:16:45 And so we're just kind of rolling with the punches.
00:16:48 We're just trying to keep up with the the.
00:16:53 The enemies.
00:16:54 Efforts to shut us.
00:16:58 So I'm I'm otherwise pleased with.
00:17:02 With Odyssey, I kind of felt like this was going to be the way to go.
00:17:05 Well, I mean, I knew that Trovo would eventually have to do as soon as I saw that first stream where they put a warning label on my stream.
00:17:12 I knew, you know, the days were numbered.
00:17:15 And and Odyssey does not do anything like that.
00:17:17 Later they welcome.
00:17:21 According to them all controversial talk.
00:17:25 Obviously they they I think they you know they ban **** and stuff like that.
00:17:29 So it's not that it can't.
00:17:31 It's not that content can't be removed.
00:17:34 So you never really do know for sure.
00:17:37 If a a company is gonna start deciding to censor, you know you had bit shoot for example start doing some.
00:17:47 I mean, people call it censorship.
00:17:48 I it's more really in terms of bit shoot.
00:17:51 I mean it's, it's censorship, but it's more, it's more compliance, right, they have laws.
00:17:57 Especially being a UK based company.
00:18:01 There's laws they have to comply with and.
00:18:05 So it's just a matter of them doing that and responding to governments and.
00:18:11 Stuff like that.
00:18:12 Will Odyssey have the same kinds of issues?
00:18:15 I don't know.
00:18:17 I don't know.
00:18:18 I'm I'm figuring this out as we go along, just like everybody else.
00:18:23 But I do have high hopes for Odyssey.
00:18:25 I think it'll last longer than the than trovo.
00:18:28 I think it'll last longer than D live and trovo lasted a while.
00:18:33 I mean, like, I guess.
00:18:34 I mean, what, nine months?
00:18:36 Nine months.
00:18:37 And then we had a baby.
00:18:38 Which is odyssey.
00:18:41 And then D live didn't even last that long.
00:18:43 I don't think like did live people were getting kicked off of that after like four months.
00:18:48 I feel like, I don't know.
00:18:55 Hope you guys are doing OK this week.
00:18:59 I'm a little bit tired, a little bit tired.
00:19:03 I was in the sun a.
00:19:04 Lot today doing stuff.
00:19:10 Various cacti I've got.
00:19:12 I've got a fruit bearing tree I'll be dropping into the ground.
00:19:17 I rarely post Instagram, but I post them on Instagram.
00:19:20 A video of a a large snake that I came across.
00:19:26 It was a good happy snake.
00:19:28 So you can go to Instagram and.
00:19:30 See the video of the snake.
00:19:31 Maybe I'll play.
00:19:32 It if I.
00:19:32 Can get it over here, but the.
00:19:35 The snakes, someone in chat, says the Internet days are numbered.
00:19:39 I don't know.
00:19:39 I feel like like I've said before, if if that ends up being the case, I absolutely will find a way to, even if it's just talking on ham radio.
00:19:52 But even then it's like.
00:19:55 Hey, you're going to be talking to not a lot of people because just the the capability even is going to go would go down dramatically, right?
00:20:05 My ability to get out to people I'd be limited to pretty much.
00:20:10 I mean at night.
00:20:11 I mean, forget about it.
00:20:13 So probably have to be during the day.
00:20:15 But during the day.
00:20:17 I mean, you'd have to have quite the antenna.
00:20:22 To be able to pick me up.
00:20:24 In many places, and you'd have to have quite the the receiver and everything else.
00:20:31 Even if I'm running legal limit and I'd probably have to find something that, I mean it just it just it doesn't seem as practical.
00:20:39 What I still do it I'd probably still do it, but you'd have also you'd have jammers that could come in and they would, you know, not not everyone on ham radio is right wing.
00:20:49 In fact, a lot and.
00:20:50 A lot of the right wingers are the the anti racist boomers.
00:20:54 You know what I mean?
00:20:55 Like the the I don't see color types and and so you'd have interference and and whatever.
00:21:01 And technically you'd have some, I don't know.
00:21:03 The FCC could get involved and.
00:21:06 It would open up some other cans of worms, but yeah, we'll, we'll get this working even if it's, you know, I, I, I would imagine, honestly, if it got down to that.
00:21:17 It would almost be better to do like torrents or or dark web or some kind of weird decentralized blockchain thing like.
00:21:25 I know Odyssey is on the library blockchain.
00:21:30 I don't know back end what exactly that all entails because as I mentioned that you can remove stuff.
00:21:37 You know, if someone tries posting ***** or whatever, like they can, they can delete it.
00:21:44 But I don't know like what's actually happening on the back end, like when they do that, you know, like I don't know, I I would imagine there be other ways.
00:21:51 I think the internet's going to be probably the best delivery system no matter what, but it is, you know, we'll see. We'll find out, we'll find out. It would be kind of funny. It'd be kind of funny.
00:22:03 If it was like a some weird like, you're basically setting up the kind of like when they're in zombie movies and they're tuning around on a radio and they finally find this AM station.
00:22:14 That's like if you.
00:22:15 Want to get to a safe zone?
00:22:17 Make sure you go to this place.
00:22:19 We're fighting back the.
00:22:20 Or like at the end of.
00:22:23 Cloverfield Lane like you know, we need fighters to go to Houston or whatever it was that would be kind of fun, but realistically speaking, I just, you know, in order to reach the most people, you know, it's funny Speaking of cults and stuff like that.
00:22:40 Like we've talked about recently in broadcasting.
00:22:42 There's brother Strayer.
00:22:45 In fact, let's maybe let's talk about that guy tonight a little bit.
00:22:48 He might even be on.
00:22:49 I might be able to tune him in.
00:22:51 I mean, he's on.
00:22:52 I don't know if it's if he's on Saturdays, but he's on, like, around this time of night there.
00:22:59 Is a guy.
00:23:01 Let me bring him up.
00:23:03 Brother Strayer, let's.
00:23:05 I can't believe we didn't talk about him because he fits right into, like, the cult stuff.
00:23:08 We've been talking about.
00:23:11 Brother Strayer.
00:23:13 I think it's Strayer, right, isn't it?
00:23:18 Brother Strayer.
00:23:21 Oh, maybe it's not that.
00:23:23 Let me see.
Speaker 4
00:23:25 UM, shortwave.
Devon
00:23:30 Oh, stare Brother Stare because he stares right through your soul.
00:23:35 Although it's spelled stair like stairway to heaven.
00:23:42 All right, let's show you a picture of.
00:23:45 Brother stare.
00:23:48 Should I be * **** and show him in his prison outfit?
00:23:52 Or show him now.
00:23:54 I'll be cool.
00:23:57 Alright, so here's brother Stair.
Speaker
00:24:08 Brother stare.
Devon
00:24:16 Brother stair.
00:24:19 Now brother Stair is awesome if you are.
00:24:23 If you fix shortwave radios and stuff like that because he's always on, he's one of the only people that's always on shortwave.
00:24:31 I don't know how he affords all the airtime because he's on on multiple frequencies and he's the only one that's.
00:24:38 On shortwave.
00:24:41 As often as anyone is on shortwave, but he's been around a really long time.
00:24:47 He started out like I think on FM radio.
00:24:50 Let me look at.
00:24:51 I'm just gonna.
00:24:52 I'm just going to Wikipedia it up.
00:24:53 A little bit give you the back story.
00:24:57 All right, Ralph Gordon stare.
00:25:01 And all right.
00:25:03 He died this year.
00:25:05 I didn't even know he died this year.
00:25:08 So I guess he died on April 3rd of this year.
00:25:12 So let's let's get an F in chat for Brother Stair.
00:25:17 I had no idea that he died, so I.
00:25:19 Guess it's just recordings.
00:25:21 Or maybe.
00:25:24 Who knows what's happened to his cult?
00:25:26 See, this is this is.
00:25:26 This would be an interesting one to keep an eye on.
00:25:30 Because he was the glue holding that community together.
00:25:33 And now that he's gone, who knows what's going on?
00:25:37 So it would be interesting to see if this survives beyond his his life.
00:25:41 Alright, so let's take a look here.
00:25:43 He was born in Bethlehem, oh, Pennsylvania.
00:25:49 He was ordained as a Methodist minister, but he later left the organic organized religion, stating I call myself a Christian.
00:25:57 He moved to the South in the 1950s, saying that God told him to move there because it would be the safest place for Christians.
00:26:04 In the end times.
00:26:07 And then he created Overcomer ministry.
00:26:10 Now overcome our ministry.
00:26:11 That's like the name of his radio show too, so if you.
00:26:13 Were tuning around. I'm.
00:26:15 I'm curious.
00:26:16 I might fire up a radio here and see if I can hear him.
00:26:19 I'd have to move some antennas around or not antennas.
00:26:23 I have to hook up a different cable but.
00:26:27 It might be worth.
00:26:27 Doing, you know, I wonder if I have the bandwidth.
00:26:30 Maybe I'll check and see if.
00:26:34 If he's on the Utah SDR.
00:26:38 So if you guys want to ever listen to shortwave, and we've talked about this before, there's you can do it on the Internet there.
00:26:46 If you just look up Web SDR and you can listen to ham radio the same way you know, because just the different part of the the frequency or a band rather.
00:26:58 But you can find they're basically radios hooked up around the world. Someone's got an antenna and a radio hooked up.
00:27:07 Then they stream it to the Internet, but you can control it so you can TuneIn to different frequencies and so you can. There's there's stations in in Norway, there's stations in.
00:27:18 Pretty much every continent you know, so you can go and listen.
00:27:21 In Asia, you can listen in North.
00:27:23 Erica, it's also Speaking of testing your ham radio equipment.
00:27:27 It's a good way to see if you're getting out.
00:27:28 So if you want to know how far people can hear your signal, you can just load up one of these SDRS that are, you know, like let's say, I want to, I want to see if people can hear me in Maine.
00:27:39 So you find one in Maine and tune into the frequency that you're transmitting.
00:27:43 On and and then you look and see.
00:27:47 We're going to take a look here and see if.
00:27:51 If we can hear him.
00:27:53 He's usually on 40 meters.
00:27:58 Around this time of night.
00:28:07 Where is that 40?
00:28:10 Yeah. OK.
00:28:19 Let's see if this is him.
00:28:26 Turn this down a little bit so it's not.
00:28:27 Killing your ears.
00:28:33 Switch to AM.
00:28:36 Where's the AM mode button?
00:28:41 Where is AM.
00:28:51 There are.
00:28:56 That is not him.
00:29:00 I don't know what that is.
00:29:05 That's not him either.
00:29:06 What's this?
Speaker 5
00:29:08 And all the member in the ranking.
00:29:11 Those who?
Devon
00:29:12 That's also not him.
00:29:17 Look further down the band here.
Speaker 1
00:29:20 OK.
Devon
00:29:24 There he is.
00:29:27 All right, so this is.
00:29:27 What he sounds like.
Speaker 2
00:29:28 Your days are over, Sir.
Devon
00:29:30 Or sound of blood.
Speaker 2
00:29:30 Your days are done, Mr.
00:29:33 And you folks keep giving question the job you're done, you're finished.
00:29:39 You're finished.
00:29:41 So the phone numbers.
00:29:42 You have code 1843701.
Devon
00:29:47 He would let people call in.
00:29:48 I mean, I don't think that they.
00:29:50 Would actually let me turn this down.
00:29:53 All right, we don't need to.
00:29:54 Listen to him but it.
00:29:56 It's good to hear that he's still.
00:29:58 They're still broadcasting recordings, I guess maybe they're just finishing out a contract.
00:30:03 I don't know how.
00:30:04 All that.
00:30:05 How much?
00:30:06 I mean, like I said, I know it's expensive.
00:30:07 It's really expensive to get shortwave air time and he's on multiple frequencies now in death.
00:30:15 He they're still broadcasting his stuff so well, it's again.
00:30:19 It's a little different now.
00:30:20 He's dead.
00:30:21 I knew it was only a matter of times.
00:30:23 He's so old.
00:30:23 But anyway, here we go.
00:30:26 So you moved to the sub 1950s. All right, stair led. The Overcomer ministry officially incorporated as the Faith Cathedral Fellowship, a conservative Pentecostal Christian organization which runs a widely heard radio based ministry. Stair purchased a motel in Waterloo.
00:30:46 South Carolina in 1978 and encouraged followers to move to the community, sell all their possessions, take a vow of poverty, and donate all they owned to the overcomer minute.
00:30:59 Stream the community of about 70 strives, and I think that's that's fairly recent numbers, so his.
00:31:08 If you wanted to call it a cult or whatever, but it's it was about 70 people that lived there as like as of probably around this year. What's happened now that he's dead? Who knows, strives for self-sufficient self-sufficiency.
00:31:25 And simplicity.
00:31:28 Growing their own food and making their own clothes, community members live in mobile homes and handmade houses, eating communal meals and gathering for Saturday worship in the Tabernacle.
00:31:42 They dress conservatively.
00:31:44 Women wear long skirts and men wear long pants.
00:31:49 And shirts with collars typically work, is divided among or divided along traditional gender lines, with men performing farm and manual labor and women doing domestic chores.
00:32:03 Members primarily rely on bicycles for transportation within the community, so you know.
00:32:12 Nothing too crazy.
00:32:15 Stair broadcasts from a solar powered radio studio, which is based in the community, often for hours at a time. As of 2014, Stair leased airtime globally on five satellites.
00:32:30 And on 7 international shortwave radio stations to convey his message to listeners in the United States as well as listeners and locations as far-flung as South America, Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Israel, Russia, India and Asia.
00:32:50 In addition to international satellite and shortwave, stair also broadcasts worldwide via the Internet, streaming from his ministries website and lease time on the terrestrial AM and FM radio stations throughout the United States, some of which are large coverage state.
00:33:08 In the 1990s, Brother Stare was heard on 120 such stations, so he was bigger in the 90s in the 90s.
00:33:16 You would tune around like a talk radio station and you would hear his his radio show, or even on some FM stations.
00:33:24 So I I I mean I don't remember hearing him.
00:33:28 I would imagine that it was probably like late night when they don't have any other programming.
00:33:32 And so the program was a little cheaper to buy.
00:33:35 But that's kind of, I mean again that shows you the kind of money this guy had that he was broadcasting on on so many different stations and leasing airtime on all these stations though by 2007 and continuing through 2014, that total had been reduced to approximately 25, so.
00:33:57 By 2014, he had already dropped down because it was so expensive to about 25 AM and FM station.
00:34:04 In 2016, however, the broadcast was dramatically increased due to a large contribution which allowed Brother Stare to purchase hundreds of hours per day of broadcasting time to create one of the most extensive shortwave broadcasting history broadcast expenditures of about 1.5 million.
00:34:25 $1.5 million.
00:34:29 Are funded by donations from listeners in 1993 and in 1994, Stair and his ministry were partners in a failed ship based radio.
00:34:39 So he tried to do pirate radio where they were going to have a big boat out in the ocean in international waters broadcasting his uh, his radio show, which would have.
Speaker 9
00:34:50 I mean.
Speaker
00:34:50 If he's.
Devon
00:34:51 Spending. Excuse me?
00:34:55 1.5 million bucks a year.
00:34:58 That's going to cover the cost of your boat most.
00:35:02 And then you control it, I guess.
00:35:05 UM.
00:35:08 Let's see here.
00:35:10 Due to authorities rating and confiscating both the ship and his equipment before it could set sail in international waters, see and then they.
00:35:18 But then the government.
00:35:19 Got involved.
00:35:20 They they they confiscated his boat and his transmitting equipment before he could even get off the ground stairs.
00:35:27 Teachings place a strong emphasis on millennial predictions of world changing events, which will result from divine judgment in the year 1999, he said that there would be such changes at the dawn of the third Millennium.
00:35:43 If the Lord God Almighty does not make a major move before the year 2000, he said. I'll tell God to go to hell well.
00:35:53 I guess that's up to interpretation, right? Star also has received publicly over the years for several or has received publicity rather over the years for several of his prophecies, including a nuclear confrontation, prophecies for 1988, which never happened.
00:36:12 Obviously, and that Ronald Reagan would not complete his term as President.
00:36:18 Over the years, stair has been involved in a number of controversies, including allegations of sexual abuse, which almost always happens with Colts allegations that he caused infant deaths.
00:36:30 That's probably just because he wasn't using Western medicine, so they were complaining about that.
00:36:35 The allegations that his ministry is a cult.
00:36:39 Stare objected to medical intervention and taught avoidance of doctors. Commune members typically followed stairs, teachings, and in 1980s and 90s, local authorities conducted investigations after three infants died at the community either during or shortly after.
00:37:00 Alright, criminal cases.
00:37:03 In 2002, Stare, then aged 69, was arrested in Waterloo on 2 counts of criminal sexual conduct in the second degree.
00:37:12 Two women associated with brother Stair, ages 17 and 20, alleged that he coerced them by enforcing his religious personal beliefs on them. In 2004, Star pleaded guilty to the charge of assault and battery.
00:37:25 And was sentenced to time served, a total of 77 days in custody during his incarceration record. Recorded programs continued to be broadcast just as in as in.
00:37:36 Stairs conviction caused division in the community, however, and about 70 residents remain loyal to him and there are two other small branch communities which are part of his ministry. On December 18th, 2017, Stair was arrested on 8 counts.
00:37:56 Which include three counts of first degree criminal sexual conduct.
00:38:00 And single single counts of assault with the intent to commit criminal sexual conduct kidnapping, second degree assault, first degree burglary and 3rd degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor stare came to the attention of the authorities because of YouTube videos showing him touch a 12 year old's.
00:38:21 12 year old girl's breast during service and saying I'm going to touch them things till nobody else can touch them.
Speaker 4
00:38:27 What? What?
Devon
00:38:30 I wonder if that video is around maybe?
Speaker
00:38:31 We'll maybe we'll.
Devon
00:38:32 Let's why not?
00:38:33 Let's look and see I.
00:38:35 I mean, I don't know.
00:38:38 I don't know if how that would take place on video.
00:38:43 There's, I don't know what context that could have though, either.
00:38:47 See here, brother stair.
00:38:52 Come on.
00:38:52 Rode up brother stair.
00:38:56 12 year old.
Speaker 4
00:38:58 I don't I.
Devon
00:38:58 Don't know, I feel.
00:38:59 A little weird.
00:39:00 Here we are.
00:39:03 This is this just says, Brother Stair.
00:39:08 Groping *****.
Speaker
00:39:13 Alright, let's see what we got here.
Devon
00:39:18 There's a bunch of pictures that where's the video?
Speaker
00:39:21 There we go.
00:39:22 Here's the video.
00:39:27 Alright, bring this up.
Devon
00:39:32 It looks looks like Biden would be a good yeah this.
00:39:34 Looks pretty creepy.
00:39:35 Let's see here.
Speaker
00:39:38 Bring up the video.
Devon
00:39:47 It looks very bite any.
00:39:59 Let me turn off the.
Speaker 2
00:40:05 Oh, you dumb, I said no.
00:40:11 Why is she even happening?
00:40:14 She was all.
00:40:14 Right.
00:40:15 But I said it's all right.
00:40:18 Now we're one.
00:40:20 Yeah, we're one now.
00:40:25 Ohh now good.
Devon
00:40:28 I didn't look too healthy.
Speaker 2
00:40:28 And you know.
00:40:29 What happened? She's in.
00:40:29 There all these young girls were gonna rub these back.
00:40:34 Good, baby.
00:40:38 Did you ever go down his house?
00:40:39 Mother's back.
00:40:40 You did and where was he in?
00:40:43 That Lord have murdered what?
00:40:46 And every and you like do that for me.
Devon
00:41:05 Well, I don't know well anyway.
00:41:10 Alright, so let's see here.
00:41:16 Four women described assaults including groping and rape, stare reportedly told the women that the acts were God's will. He was released on $750,000 bond.
00:41:29 So he had the money for that. A month later, on condition he not leave the property and it was electronically monitored on January 1st of 2018, the Overcomer Ministry ceased broadcasting its show on radio stations as a result of what it called legal difficulties. Currently, the Overcomer ministry continues to stream it show on its website.
00:41:50 Well, this must be kind of old because it's been a.
Speaker
00:41:53 Like I said, it's it's as.
Devon
00:41:55 Far as I know, it's always been going on. As of November 2020.
00:41:59 OK. Yeah. I guess, I guess he he stopped broadcast down like AM and FM radio stations in 2018.
00:42:06 But yeah, he's been on.
00:42:07 He's been on.
00:42:08 Shortwave as far.
00:42:09 As you know, I think non-stop since like the 80s.
00:42:13 There was also. It's funny.
00:42:15 You know that?
00:42:17 I always.
00:42:17 I can't even say his like weirdo black name, khalib tweet or whatever the **** that the Twitter black guy the the buck breaking guy.
00:42:28 Even that guy has tweeted about Brother Stare because I guess brother Stare.
00:42:35 Had some.
00:42:40 Let me see.
00:42:40 If I forget it was some 90s.
00:42:42 Rapper Dye at his at his at his little compound.
00:42:49 Uh, let's see here wrapper.
00:42:52 Brother stare.
00:42:57 Craig Mack, you guys remember Craig Mack.
00:43:00 Craig Mack.
00:43:03 So Craig Mack this this was uh.
00:43:09 He had one hit song.
00:43:14 Yeah, flavor in.
00:43:15 Your ear. Remember that one.
Speaker 11
00:43:18 Yeah, Mac, I don't even understand how they didn't understand you in that.
Speaker 5
00:43:23 Biotic futuristic George Jetson joy.
Speaker 3
00:43:26 Yeah, just like.
Devon
00:43:30 This song.
00:43:36 All right.
00:43:38 So Craig Mack.
00:43:42 This is from the New York Daily News, tucked behind the trees and greenery outside the South Carolina city of Waterborough, or Walterboro, is a controversial religious compound where the New York rapper Craig Mack spent most of his later years devoted his life to A to the teachings of self.
00:44:01 Proclaimed Prophet, now accused of sexual misconduct.
00:44:05 Mack, who founded who found fame with.
00:44:10 P Diddy back in the mid 90s, traded in his hip hop lifestyle for one of spirituality with the Overcomer ministry, a religious group whose members lived together on a self-sustaining farm while they await the second coming of Jesus.
00:44:26 While the New York rapper did not live on the compound, he has been associated with the ministry.
00:44:31 For most of the last decade, he instead lived in a home nearby and was a regular fixture at sermons and gatherings often broadcast online through the ministry website and its YouTube page, bizarre video show, shared in 2012, sees the flava in the ear.
00:44:51 Rapper denouncing his past life, opting instead for one of righteousness, Craig Mack is dead.
00:44:58 We have someone who used Craig Mack.
00:45:00 He didn't join anything.
00:45:02 God joined him.
00:45:04 Brother Ralph Gordon Stair says in the video, summoning Mack to stand by his side in another clip post, then in 19 or in 26, or let's see if we can find that video. All right, Craig Mack.
00:45:21 Brother stair.
00:45:26 Here we are.
Speaker 1
00:45:34 Hallelujah God.
Speaker 2
00:45:35 My name, my.
00:45:37 They won't move.
00:45:37 You could bring back.
00:45:40 I told him only.
00:45:41 Value I got him is his name.
00:45:44 I'm gonna touch them things to nobody else can touch.
00:45:48 I'm gonna touch them things to nobody else can touch that where that little girl.
Devon
00:45:50 Well, I guess video is edited.
Speaker 2
00:45:55 Come on down here.
Devon
00:45:57 Where is just the.
00:45:58 We already seen this guy.
Speaker 2
00:45:59 Well, you got him, I said no.
Devon
00:46:14 Well anyway.
00:46:21 The rapper, perhaps one of the most well known members of the religious group, died Monday, so this is from.
00:46:27 What is this from what?
00:46:28 What's the date on this?
00:46:30 This is from 2018, so this is pretty recent of heart failure at the hospital, not far from the controversial commune. He was 46.
00:46:40 Branded as a cult by some of its defectors in recent interviews, the Overcomer ministry compound sits on 130 acres of land about two miles off Interstate 95. It's estimated 70 residents.
00:46:53 Who are required to give their worldly goods and monies to the Lord mostly live in modest residents built on these swath of land.
00:47:00 We live in a community or we live in community homes of mobile trailers for each family or accommodations for brothers and sisters with common baths and common eating, all seeking to live together in love for God and each other.
Speaker
00:47:13 Blah blah blah blah.
Devon
00:47:15 Those living at the secluded Christian commune typically cut off contact from the outside.
00:47:21 Law enforcement have fielded a series of calls over the years from the loved ones of those living at the commune, many of them expressing concern over the cult like.
00:47:30 Rules of the organization, they call us a cult.
00:47:34 What in the world is a cult?
00:47:36 Blah, blah blah stare born in blah blah.
00:47:39 Where did that at the ministries peak?
Speaker 12
00:47:43 Blah blah blah right.
00:47:44 Here we go.
Devon
00:47:45 Let me Fast forward.
00:47:45 To the part where.
00:47:48 We already heard all this stuff.
00:47:51 All the allegations.
00:47:53 Well, they don't really go into it.
00:47:54 I read once there was an article.
00:47:57 Where Craig Mack apparently had been on some like drug binge.
00:48:04 And started to lose his **** and was driving around the middle of nowhere and he turned on the radio and heard brother Stare and became obsessed and decided to join it.
00:48:14 So kind of an unusual way that brother stares weird.
00:48:19 Uh, marketing strategy finally worked on somebody with money.
00:48:26 Interesting to see what will happen with that.
00:48:29 So again.
00:48:31 Another example.
00:48:33 Of how a guy?
00:48:34 I mean, quite frankly, I don't.
00:48:36 Think he's I mean.
00:48:36 I don't think that guy's.
00:48:37 Very charismatic, you know he didn't.
00:48:41 Maybe he was in, like the 80s.
00:48:45 I don't know.
00:48:46 Well, can we find footage of Brother Stare in the?
00:48:48 80s. Probably not, maybe.
00:48:51 I I feel like he's the kind of person.
00:48:53 That they would have had on Oprah.
00:48:59 Oh, in fact.
00:48:59 I'm going to look was.
00:49:00 He on Oprah.
00:49:04 I feel like you would have been Oprah.
00:49:08 No, he's not an Oprah.
00:49:11 But there is a there all right, so.
00:49:13 Here's a news report.
00:49:14 From 1988, it's called Brother.
00:49:15 Stairs cult of doom.
00:49:19 Let's take a look at this.
00:49:22 Let's watch this cult of Doom.
00:49:28 We're just winging it tonight, but I.
00:49:30 Guess this is still interesting.
00:49:32 It's interesting to me.
00:49:34 Alright, let's bring up. Uh.
00:49:37 And that's all that matters.
Speaker 5
00:49:39 And in a story that we've been covering for three months now, some call it the Church of Doom because they predict the end of the earth by this year, people from our area gave up everything they had and moved to a South Carolina farm farm to follow a radio preacher that some believe is a con man. Tonight, Channel 10's Bill Baldini continues his investigation of the church.
00:49:59 Centering now on one member who's given birth to a stillborn child, a child, some say, should have lived.
Speaker 3
00:50:07 This was Joey McCord and his wife, Linda, last April when we visited the Reverend Stairs religious community in South Carolina.
00:50:15 As you can see, she was pregnant. Like other families. The courts sold this home in Delaware County and all their worldly possessions had moved to Walterboro, SC. They joined the church.
00:50:26 Radio preacher Ralph Stare.
00:50:28 I don't have a false prophet.
00:50:30 False prophets go to hell, but I don't want to go to hell.
Devon
00:50:33 Ohh, so that's him.
Speaker 3
00:50:34 I want to go to.
Devon
00:50:34 That's him without his beard.
00:50:39 I mean that this video, by the way, the reason that's all choppy, that's not your connection or even mine, that's just this.
00:50:44 That's just what this video looks like. For some reason, it's like that, but that's what it looked like without his without his beard and this 1988.
00:50:53 So I mean, that's about as charismatic as you know, you'd expect them to ever get and still, you know.
00:50:58 I don't know.
00:50:58 Filling it.
Speaker 3
00:50:59 Are you profitable yet?
00:51:04 There also does not believe in hospitals, and according to Linda Mccourt's mother, Linda is having her baby without medical help. The baby was stillborn.
Speaker 13
00:51:14 Baby super alive to about.
Speaker 3
00:51:16 There's no reason for us to open stuff.
00:51:19 She was 3 weeks open.
Devon
00:51:20 I don't know the audio video.
00:51:21 Is pretty crap tastic on this.
Speaker 3
00:51:21 The baby was almost.
Devon
00:51:23 If you guys want to watch that, I'm going to see if I can find something better.
00:51:27 I don't.
00:51:29 I think it's probably a struggle for you guys to.
00:51:32 Do you hear that?
00:51:34 All right, well, here's here he is on a on a a talk show.
00:51:38 It's not one I've ever heard of.
00:51:40 But this is like an 80s or 90s talk show.
Speaker 3
00:51:48 People are talking.
Devon
00:51:51 Why is it like that?
00:51:57 Let's see if I can up the quality.
Speaker
00:51:57 Is it like?
Devon
00:52:03 No, it's whoever's uploading these things is.
00:52:07 Not blowing crap.
00:52:12 Now here's another interview.
00:52:13 Let's see if this one looks like crap.
00:52:16 Oh, this one was actually playing.
00:52:18 Kind of normally.
Speaker 13
00:52:21 69 year old Ralph Starr is a self-proclaimed prophet taken to jail Thursday to face charges of sexually assaulting two former female members of his ministry inside his Carleton County compound. We went to the Overcomer ministry to talk to some of his followers but were met with resistance.
Speaker 3
00:52:40 Do you think he's guilty of the charge?
Speaker 14
00:52:42 Yeah, nothing to say, OK.
Speaker 13
00:52:43 All right. OK.
Speaker
00:52:44 No, it's just passing.
Speaker 13
00:52:46 So we just watching you guys, we're talking, we're getting off.
00:52:48 OK.
Speaker 3
00:52:50 Well, your private property.
Speaker 13
00:52:51 We did find someone who would talk, former star follower Michael Rowland, who joined Reverend Stairs Group six years ago, then left last August.
Speaker 12
00:53:01 I mean, this man is.
00:53:03 I didn't know that that he was like that.
Speaker 13
00:53:06 Is he guilty of these charges?
Speaker 12
00:53:08 Yes, he is guilty of those charges.
Speaker 5
00:53:10 I said, well, what would you do if someone?
Speaker 12
00:53:12 Killed someone here on this land.
00:53:15 You called the police.
00:53:16 Or wouldn't you tell somebody or tell the authorities?
00:53:19 And he said no, the the church doesn't go to to the world.
00:53:23 For anything.
Speaker 6
00:53:24 I've been told and heard that that people who go in back there give up everything, their cars, their vehicles, their homes, the women all wear long dresses.
00:53:33 I mean, they go in groups.
00:53:35 They take vows of silence.
Speaker 13
00:53:37 And your leaders in jail?
00:53:38 Doesn't that bother you?
00:53:39 No worries about it.
Speaker 1
00:53:43 Right.
Speaker 13
00:53:43 And they aren't saying anything else, and neither is Reverend Stirrer, who is being held in jail without bond.
Devon
00:53:52 So anyway.
00:53:55 Another look at how how easy it is to do something like this, and again, I think it'd be interesting to see how how things unfold now that he's gone, because apparently he, you know and and that's the problem with when you do these cult things is it's it's really centered up around that guy.
00:54:13 You know as much as in that that last clip when they asked the old guy.
00:54:16 You know. Oh.
00:54:18 Don't you care that you're your leaders in jail?
00:54:21 And he said no, my leader is not in jail and he pointed up at the sky and said my leaders up there, it ultimately, which is, you know, often is that it's often that.
00:54:33 Once this personality that's kind of through their own sheer force of will is holding that community together.
00:54:40 Once they're gone, either it creates a power vacuum, right, and so then someone else wants to.
00:54:48 To insert themselves into that role, and if they don't have the same capability to hold the community together, it collapses.
00:54:56 Or sometimes, like in the case of what was mentioned before, Mormonism, right when Joseph Smith died, there was a faction that that said Ohh it should go to his sons.
00:55:08 And so, like, there was this breakaway, I guess, like, I think it broke up like four or five different ways.
00:55:15 And the one that you know of today as Mormons in Salt Lake City and stuff like that, that was the group that followed Brigham Young, who apparently had the ability to act.
00:55:26 Usually you know, hold it together, but and then after but one of the first things they did once they went out to Utah is they did start establishing like a hierarchy so that you wouldn't have that kind of.
00:55:40 A problem in the future?
00:55:42 So there'd actually be a process of electing kind of.
00:55:46 I mean it's similar but different like the Catholic Church when their Pope dies, there's like a process to elect a new Pope and all this stuff.
00:55:54 Right.
00:55:55 So that would be an important thing to do that a.
00:55:58 Lot of these cults that are centered just around a personality, they don't bother to establish because ultimately it's it's a exercise in narcissism.
00:56:09 It's an exercise in power for that individual.
00:56:14 That the last thing on their mind is.
00:56:16 Is who's gonna get this?
00:56:18 Power when I'm gone, because that doesn't even.
00:56:19 Why do they?
00:56:20 Who cares?
00:56:21 They don't care.
00:56:21 They literally.
00:56:22 Don't care, because once they're gone that you know the game is over.
00:56:26 They don't care what happens to those people.
00:56:28 Those people were simply just tools.
00:56:31 They were just simply assets that would that could help them feed into their own ego and all this sort of stuff.
00:56:38 So if you actually want.
00:56:42 A religious group.
00:56:44 And a religious community to survive beyond the founder.
00:56:48 That's like one of the first things you'd have to do is establish some kind of a process, you know, in the continuity of government.
00:56:56 Right, like the same way that the United States has, like, a a process that the President dies.
00:57:03 You know, it goes to the vice president, the vice president dies.
00:57:06 It goes to the speaker of the House and so forth and so on.
00:57:10 And that's the you know that's that's that's very important to do if you want your your system to survive beyond just the life of the founders.
00:57:21 So anyway.
00:57:23 So that was interesting.
00:57:24 That's not what I was going to stream about either.
00:57:29 I got sidetracked on this.
00:57:31 I don't even know how I don't.
00:57:32 Know how this all we.
00:57:34 Went this down this route.
00:57:37 All right.
00:57:39 This is gonna be kind of a I I was planning on kind of just doing a.
00:57:42 Chill stream though.
00:57:44 So we were talking about trobo.
00:57:46 I was on Speaking of, I guess chill streams.
00:57:48 I was on the kill stream.
00:57:52 Oh, I guess 24 approximately 24 hours ago, approximately 24 hours ago, they were doing a 24 hour.
00:57:59 I'm sure it's. I guess it's it's over now, but they were doing a 24 hour long stream called the **** trobo stream or something like that. And so that was good. It got on there and.
00:58:13 For some more people understand Trovo did ban like Vince James, they banned Mark Collette.
00:58:21 They banned.
00:58:22 I mean, it was like a long list of people they banned and they all just so happened to be pro white right wing people, right and.
00:58:32 So Trobo is now dead to us.
00:58:34 I don't know that I'm actually banned.
00:58:37 That's the weird thing.
00:58:38 I always seem to get overlooked on the 1st wave of these bands, but the I the chat is still there.
00:58:48 I haven't tried streaming, so I don't know, maybe something happens.
00:58:51 Maybe I'd get like an error message or something.
00:58:53 I haven't tried streaming since the the ban hammer.
00:58:56 I don't know what happens.
00:58:57 I don't know if it tells you that you're banned, but you can go there and I'm going to have to go.
00:59:02 One of the annoying.
00:59:03 Things about bit shoot.
00:59:05 Is I'm have to go.
00:59:06 Now and in the description of all my videos.
00:59:08 Because of the censorship, I have, like uh, like hundreds of actually, maybe hundreds of videos.
00:59:15 That have links to things that have been banned.
00:59:18 You know whether you're talking about my book or talking about the trovo streams or whatever.
00:59:23 I'm going to go through and there's no way to like mass update the descriptions of videos YouTube kind of had this wonky way.
00:59:30 You could do that, but bit shoot does not.
00:59:33 I don't think Odyssey does either though.
00:59:35 But I'm going to go through and.
00:59:38 Wipe all those trovo links out and wipe out all those Barnes and Noble links out.
00:59:43 I think I found a new publisher, so that's good.
00:59:46 So we'll have that coming out again.
00:59:49 So that's available.
00:59:51 Man, I've got like these.
00:59:53 I've got these versions.
00:59:55 I don't know that they'll ever be collectors items, but I've got these.
00:59:58 I got a stack of the Amazon version that's now banned, and I've got a.
01:00:02 Stack of the.
01:00:02 Barnes and Noble version that's now banned.
01:00:05 Maybe I'll give those out or or auction them off or something like that if we're ever trying to fundraise.
01:00:10 Who knows?
01:00:12 All right, so.
01:00:15 Let's see here.
01:00:16 I'm going to open up my.
01:00:18 My bag of tricks, my bag of tricks.
01:00:24 There was something I wanted to show you guys that had nothing to do with any of that stuff.
Speaker 6
01:00:31 Bum, bum, bum, bum.
Speaker
01:00:34 We're going to go.
Devon
01:00:38 Windows sucks in terms of file management.
01:00:40 I can't believe how long it takes, even when you're on like a raid or an SSD.
01:00:46 If you've got a folder with a lot of files like just to like list the files in a particular kind of sorting, it's like hold on, hold on.
01:00:54 Like this is something that should be instant.
01:00:57 UM, but it's not.
01:01:00 So now I have to wait forever.
01:01:04 Which means you have to wait forever.
Speaker 13
01:01:06 There we go.
Devon
01:01:09 OK.
01:01:14 Well, that's not at all what I wanted.
Speaker
01:01:18 There we go.
Devon
01:01:24 This is what I wanted.
01:01:25 To talk about.
Speaker
01:01:30 If it ever loads.
Devon
01:01:35 Come on, load.
01:01:36 Jesus Christ, my computer.
01:01:37 'S just being slow.
01:01:38 I guess.
01:01:40 OK, let me increase this.
01:01:45 Now this was a show in the 80s.
01:01:49 In Britain.
01:01:53 And they did a little like, I don't know if this was like a regular show.
01:01:55 I'm assuming.
01:01:56 It was, but in Britain in the 1980s they were kind of starting to.
01:02:03 I guess experience some of the pains of the new diversity that was happening in Britain in the 1980s, and just the well, well well before the 80s, and they had a lot of interesting. They like, they basically interviewed like some white.
01:02:24 Kids and some other non white kids on this TV show and ask them about, well, how do you feel about, you know, Britain being so diverse these?
01:02:34 And it's some of they had some pretty interesting responses, so I'm going to start this plane I'm running, grab another coffee real quick.
01:02:40 So I'll be right back.
Speaker 15
01:02:48 Good evening.
01:02:49 The Brixton and Toxteth Knights have been in the news again this week.
01:02:53 Lord Scarman, who's conducting the inquiry, has been up to Liverpool and given some indication of what he's going to recommend to Parliament.
01:03:00 He said that the rights weren't just caused by a race but by inner city problems and long term insensitive poll.
01:03:07 The Commission for Racial Equality have brought out a report this week and they tell us that women are more prejudice than men, older people, more intolerant than younger people, and that the press and TV are largely responsible for inflaming racial tension.
01:03:22 If you remember those headlines in the summer, you can just see how they were written.
01:03:25 Think of a color.
01:03:28 Think of a conflict war.
01:03:29 Then think of a target.
01:03:30 The police.
01:03:32 Then you've got it.
01:03:33 Black War on police and that headline was actually printed in one of our newspapers.
01:03:39 But if you look at the events of the past week, a bomb in Jewish Antwerp, hundred children executed in Iran, another IRA bomb in London, then you'll see that the whole problem is not as black and white as we sometimes like to believe.
01:03:53 Race and prejudice and its broadest sense is the subject of tonight's program.
Devon
01:04:00 What he's complaining about is that the headlines it's it's kind of funny.
01:04:04 We're in the exact opposite.
01:04:05 That's how much it's changed.
01:04:08 I mean, just in the entire W he's complaining because ohh, whenever the black people do something they include their race and the headline that that's insanity.
01:04:17 But if the IRA does something, it doesn't say it's white people.
01:04:20 First of all, in in Britain it was just assumed, right?
01:04:25 It was just assumed you were white, unless you weren't.
01:04:28 And then it would and.
01:04:29 Then it was an anomaly.
01:04:30 It was something that should be reported.
01:04:31 It was relevant to the story.
01:04:33 If you have a country, that's pretty much all.
01:04:36 All white and then you import a bunch of non whites.
01:04:39 Their behavior is something that you should keep an eye on.
01:04:42 If this is an experiment that you actually care about the the results of if you actually really, truly care about the the native born people in that country and you import all these outsiders and they start.
01:04:56 Misbehaving in a a significant, statistically significant way.
01:05:02 That's something that should be pointed out.
01:05:08 And as we know, especially in America here, if they were to actually put, if they would include race in all these headlines, they do the exact opposite.
01:05:18 Now you know they're black simply because they don't say they're race and they don't show a picture of the perpetrator.
01:05:27 You know, or and there's, you know, Ann Coulter's culture law, right where if the the longer it takes for the press to identify a suspect the of like a mass shooting, the more likely it is that they're not white.
01:05:45 And that's just simply the way it is.
01:05:47 So they know this.
01:05:48 Of course they know this.
01:05:50 They know the propaganda power.
01:05:51 That, that, that it.
01:05:52 Has now perhaps in in Britain.
01:05:56 Naively, they didn't realize this, and then once they noticed that the the impact it was having, which is appropriate by the way.
01:06:05 That's an appropriate psychological impact.
01:06:08 That's something you want the press doing.
01:06:10 You want the press telling you, hey, you know the the ruling class that imported all these people cause in Britain it was a little bit different.
01:06:18 In Britain.
01:06:19 They like they they went around the world all these.
01:06:23 Countries that used to be part of the British Empire and literally did like programs to like actively import these people from all over the world into the the British Isles.
01:06:39 Like it wasn't, it wasn't like.
01:06:41 America, where you just had, like, illegal immigrants.
01:06:44 Crossing, you know, like how would how would that?
01:06:46 How would that even?
01:06:47 You know, they they didn't just have, like, Mexicans pouring over the the Mexican border.
01:06:52 You had the British Government, the British ruling class, actively going out and seeking out these people from around the world and bringing them into the country to enrich the world or to enrich the the society or whatever.
01:07:04 And in that environment.
01:07:08 Yeah, absolutely. It's the press's responsibility. It's the press's duty.
01:07:14 To report to the citizens and saying, look, uh, we're noticing a pattern here.
01:07:20 All these people from around the world that your ruling class decided it would be great for for some reason.
01:07:27 To import into your country.
01:07:30 There's they seem.
01:07:31 To be committing a lot of violent crime.
01:07:34 They seem to be at war with the police.
01:07:38 Funny how that's that's another pattern, right?
01:07:43 You know, here we are 40 years later across the pond.
01:07:48 And it's the same ******* story.
01:07:50 If you're the group that's committing all the violent crime, you're the group that's going to have all the interactions with the police and you're the group that's going to be the enemy of the police.
01:07:59 Now look at this point.
01:08:02 The police, you know?
01:08:04 **** them.
01:08:05 You know, at this point, sorry guys.
01:08:08 I'm sure there's good cops out.
01:08:10 There but for.
01:08:11 The most part? **** them.
01:08:13 Because they're just government employees and the governments just as easily and does often turns these these police on people like you and me as they do.
01:08:25 The problems that arise as a result of diversity, right?
01:08:33 It it's.
01:08:34 But at this time in the 80s.
01:08:37 You didn't have you?
01:08:39 You didn't have the racial diversity, I guess within the police as much.
01:08:44 The reason why conservatives and you know, the boomer conservatives have like, you know, back to blue and and all this other stuff.
01:08:51 But you got to remember the context from when, when and how they grew up, like what was their interaction with the.
01:08:57 And you have to understand that they viewed the police really.
01:09:00 And whether they would admit this or not is the police were the the barrier between the the that the barrier that separated them and kept them safe from the diversity.
01:09:13 Now they would probably never articulate it like that, but boomers watched a lot of of the show cops.
Speaker
01:09:21 You know.
Speaker 5
01:09:23 They they they know.
Devon
01:09:25 They know they know they they know exactly.
01:09:29 What those cops are?
01:09:31 Are are, are keeping away from their gated communities?
01:09:36 They know.
01:09:38 On some level, they know.
01:09:40 And so that's and that's how it used to be.
01:09:42 But that's not the case anymore.
01:09:43 Especially now, especially now as they go around and actively purge police departments of anyone who's not drinking the Jewish kool-aid.
01:09:54 Anyone who's not under Jewish influence, that's in a law enforcement capacity is going to be immediately ejected from that position as soon as they find out.
01:10:05 And it and to some extent this is codified.
01:10:08 I mean you you think you have diversity training at whatever corporate job you have law enforcement has that through the roof.
01:10:17 Through the roof.
01:10:20 And they are, even if you go to college and you try, let's say you don't want to just be like a beat cop, you want to go to to college and take criminology classes and, you know, learn to be maybe, I don't know, like a a detective or or whatever.
01:10:36 I mean, they beat it in your head even harder.
01:10:40 And then look after all this stupid St.
01:10:44 Floyd ********.
01:10:46 And BLM burning downtowns, it's that's going.
01:10:50 To be amplified.
01:10:51 Well beyond anything that we've experienced in the past.
01:10:55 Especially now that we have, I think in my opinion, the inability to elect any kind of right wing, even, like, pretend right wing government at this point.
01:11:10 It just just.
01:11:11 Demographically, it's becoming pretty much, at least at the federal level, right?
01:11:15 It's becoming impossible.
01:11:17 And not that that that ever really happened in the past.
01:11:20 I can't think of anyone that was truly a right wing, at least in my lifetime.
01:11:25 I can't think of a time where we've ever had nationwide right wing leadership.
01:11:35 I mean, it's sad to to think this, but speed of broadcast and all this other stuff, Rush Limbaugh of all ******* people was was probably the the right wing leader in America, de facto right wing leader for like 20 years maybe.
01:11:53 Because of the utter lack.
01:11:56 Of of that kind of.
01:11:59 Personality in any kind of position of power, right?
01:12:02 So that should tell you where you know that's where the boomers are coming from too.
01:12:06 That's what they had to work with.
01:12:09 Anyway, so things in Britain at the time were.
01:12:13 Not so global.
01:12:15 Homophily I mean, I'm sure that that it was there, right?
01:12:18 The seed had been planted a long time ago and I'm sure those, I mean, like, really not even in the case of Britain, I think for centuries you've had that, that, that.
01:12:28 Sneaky voice in the ear of of the ruling class and and that snake Slitherine among them, for a long ******* time.
01:12:36 Time, but maybe whether it was because they didn't quite understand the psychological impact that reporting honestly about the race of these perpetrators was going to have, or what.
01:12:47 But it's just interesting to point that out that right away he's complaining.
01:12:51 He's complaining that.
01:12:53 That the press is the.
01:12:54 Press is causing all this racism because they keep pointing out the black people doing things wrong.
Speaker 15
01:13:00 Now we're going over to our studio guests.
01:13:03 We're going to say what they think.
01:13:06 Noticed somebody grumbling during while we were running the film over there.
01:13:10 What was it you were taking exception to?
Speaker 11
01:13:12 Well, I'll take exception to because one white guy on the TV says that.
Speaker 5
01:13:17 Blacks going in gangs.
Speaker 11
01:13:18 And so on.
01:13:19 That's not true.
01:13:20 Majority 2 blacks normally walk the strength to kill friends company, but I've never seen a black gang go on and start pushing white blocks around.
Devon
01:13:29 It never happens, guys.
01:13:32 I'm sure none of you have ever seen a group of black people pushing a white person around.
01:13:37 Right, they're they're certainly not videos of that, that get posted to the Internet several times a day in in countries all over the West.
01:13:47 That's just like a normal thing, dude.
01:13:49 And I'm sure it was just as normal back then.
Speaker 11
01:13:51 I've seen a lot.
01:13:52 Of skinned spots.
Devon
01:13:53 Ohh, the skin, it's the it's the the the Skinhead gangs now like, I'll be honest, like there probably was more of a Skinhead type presence back then.
01:14:02 I think I mentioned that when we were doing that, we showed the Ricki Lake episode where he, they had that Skinhead guy on and I remarked them that like, yeah, it wasn't that unusual in the 90s.
01:14:12 To have you know at least a handful of skinheads at your at your high school, it wasn't that unusual.
01:14:19 I mean, it was that was just like another one of the groups.
01:14:22 It was, you know, smaller or whatever.
01:14:23 But there was.
01:14:24 It it in my experience, there was always like, you know, at least you know, 5 to 10 skinheads at most.
01:14:32 High schools that hung out together and and whatever.
01:14:36 And that doesn't mean they they went out and they're they're always.
01:14:39 Let's let's let's.
01:14:40 Throw a noose up in this tree.
01:14:41 Let's have a good old fashioned fad drag, you know.
01:14:44 Like it's not.
01:14:44 Like that kind of ****.
01:14:45 Was going on, you know, but.
01:14:47 That you'd have like.
01:14:48 The combat boots and the ******* suspenders and and what?
01:14:51 And it was just it was just like the IT was just another click like any other click.
01:14:58 But I don't know.
01:14:59 I wasn't.
01:15:00 I've never.
01:15:00 I've never hung out in London or anything like that, so I don't know, especially not in the 80s.
01:15:06 So I don't know how realistic what this guy is saying, how realistic it is.
01:15:11 But to to try to say.
01:15:13 That there was no black gangs is.
Speaker 11
01:15:14 Ridiculous 506 of them trying to attach with two black blokes.
Speaker
01:15:14 Thank you.
Speaker 15
01:15:18 OK, over here you need in.
Speaker 16
01:15:19 Your head not only black, so you see you.
01:15:22 Find there's seats round seats.
01:15:24 And our central you walk a little way and there's a group of blacks and we walk a bit further and there's a group of whites and then we see the police.
01:15:31 You walk a bit further.
01:15:32 There's another group of blacks, and that's how it.
Speaker 15
01:15:33 Goes on and what's the difference between the group of the?
01:15:36 Blacks and the group of the Whites.
Speaker 16
01:15:38 Nothing, because if you walk past one, you're scared is if.
01:15:40 You walk by the other well I am.
Speaker 15
01:15:42 OK, well for.
Speaker 17
01:15:43 Instance, right?
01:15:44 It is showing some cases lot margins and especially in low most of.
01:15:49 It is buy.
01:15:50 Blacks and you see, one mugging probably might be by a black guy in everybody.
01:15:55 Just label him as a mug or something like that.
Speaker 15
01:15:58 Anybody else want to come?
01:15:59 Yes, right over there.
Speaker 18
01:16:00 I think it's a lot of.
01:16:01 It's a thing that, let's say, the colour person mugs somebody it's read in the papers as Black boy mugs, white girl or something or whatever he does.
01:16:10 But if it's a white person, it doesn't say white boy.
Devon
01:16:15 Or two things.
01:16:16 Do you see the yamaka?
01:16:21 Bottom right screen.
01:16:23 There's that's.
01:16:23 That's definitely a ******* yamaka.
01:16:26 But the other thing, yeah, she's just reiterating what we just.
01:16:29 Talked about that.
01:16:30 Apparently, if that's even true, right, because who knows if it's even true.
01:16:35 Because you have the when you listen to like these, these left wing Youtubers that what do they always say?
01:16:41 Oh, the media is right wing, the.
01:16:43 Anything. Have you noticed that?
01:16:45 They're they're basically like the polar opposite of boomers.
01:16:49 In that anything they don't like, they just say is right wing, like Jimmy Dore does that all the time.
01:16:54 ******* hate it.
01:16:55 Like Jimmy Dore, who will never be based because because of this, he's he's basically a boomer too.
01:17:01 He's like the the he would be based if he wasn't the boomer like he's.
01:17:07 Got all those?
01:17:07 Boomer isms, though that that prevent him from seeing.
01:17:11 The the truth about some very important topics, and that's that's one of them.
01:17:15 But he'll do that too.
01:17:16 Anytime anything he doesn't like.
01:17:19 Happens in the Democrats.
01:17:22 He'll start saying the Democrats are the real right wingers.
Speaker 5
01:17:25 You know, I mean, I don't know why.
Devon
01:17:26 I don't know why boomers think that that's such that's such an like own, but they've always thought that whether they're on the left.
01:17:32 Or the right?
01:17:33 So I don't know if if she is just playing that game or if that was even true, but.
01:17:39 Also, let's keep an eye and see if yamaka person ever opens up their mouth.
Speaker 18
01:17:43 And that's not pushed home to you the same way.
Speaker 15
01:17:46 Yes, OK.
Speaker 16
01:17:46 Yeah, it's just space that the media distorts the whole information.
01:17:50 Television like programs like TV, I, they distort topics.
01:17:55 Certain newspapers and magazines, as an article in Cosmopolitan, which is black, is beautiful.
01:18:02 It's just how fast it's ridiculous.
Devon
01:18:05 That's kind of base.
01:18:10 She's mad because Cosmo.
01:18:12 Did an article saying uh black?
01:18:15 Is beautiful interesting.
Speaker 15
01:18:16 Let's think completely wide around because I mean our guest in the studio this afternoon is Clive Lawton from the Jewish Board of Deputies.
01:18:22 And you can see he's not at all black except for his.
Devon
01:18:23 Ah, there he is.
Speaker 15
01:18:25 And most of the lower part of.
01:18:26 His face so.
01:18:27 You've got like a mix there really like somebody else.
01:18:30 You wanna say something on this?
01:18:31 Throwing that up.
Speaker 14
01:18:32 It's mainly naivety that prejudice comes into or they use an escape goat like.
01:18:37 That's why the National Front is getting it.
01:18:39 They get the skin is to go out and fight.
01:18:41 The the the coloured people.
01:18:42 Asians, anybody.
01:18:44 And then when it's in the news.
01:18:46 It's complex, it's wrong.
01:18:47 It's there's.
Devon
01:18:48 Uh, see, it's all conspiracy.
01:18:49 It's a Skinhead conspiracy.
01:18:52 The National Front sends out skinheads to go seek out and fight minorities, and then once the minorities chimp out, they're.
01:19:00 Like, see, we told you.
Speaker 14
01:19:03 Causing the trouble.
01:19:04 They've got their jobs, they got the.
01:19:05 White people's jobs, which?
01:19:06 Is wrong.
01:19:08 They got.
01:19:09 They were asked to come over here.
Devon
01:19:10 See, that's that is a ****** ** thing.
01:19:12 That's what I was.
01:19:13 Talking about, they were.
01:19:13 Asked to like I said there was like government programs actively importing these *******.
Speaker 14
01:19:21 They were offered jobs, they offered houses.
01:19:23 They threw out the immigrants out of this country, but.
Speaker 8
01:19:26 We know we'll be here.
Devon
01:19:28 Well, that's that's a that's the ruling class lie, right?
01:19:31 That's the ruling class lie they've been saying at least since the 80s.
Speaker 3
01:19:35 Ohh if we got.
Devon
01:19:36 Rid of the the immigrants then who would mow your lawn?
01:19:40 If we got rid of the immigrants, then who would do this?
01:19:42 Would do that.
01:19:43 You know it's it's kind of like if you look at a lot of these places now that are looking for workers, you know, because of all the COVID stimulus checks, a lot of these, a lot of people aren't going to work.
01:19:58 And so you've seen probably a lot of photos of help wanted signs that are posted in different stores and fast food restaurants and stuff.
01:20:07 And people have been remarking on how high the salary offers on these signs have increased.
01:20:16 And actually, black pigeon speaks. When I was on that kill stream. Well, 24 hours ago, remarked and and and I think this is a good point that that that shows they could have been paying that all along.
01:20:32 They could have been paying those wages all along.
01:20:36 They just didn't do that because why would you?
01:20:38 If you've got a, you know, endless supply of pedros that are going to, you know, line up and work for minimum wage and live in some house with 50 other illegals and then Western Union, their money back home in Mexico.
01:20:54 So, so this guy's this guy.
01:20:56 'S you know you can tell he's just a ******* ******, but.
01:21:00 If you didn't have.
01:21:02 All these people, all these immigrants, it's.
01:21:04 Not that old.
01:21:05 And who's gonna ******* mow?
01:21:06 Your lawn? Well, nobody for $0.20 an hour.
01:21:11 Maybe you should mow your own ******* lawn.
01:21:14 If you're if you're only going to be paying 20 if it's if your society is worth so little to you.
01:21:20 That you'd rather have ethnic food and someone some Mexican lady raising your kid while Pedro mows your lawn and Jorge ***** your wife.
01:21:32 Like if you'd rather that so that you can.
01:21:34 Just literally do nothing all day.
01:21:36 **** you.
01:21:38 **** you.
01:21:39 You're part of the problem.
01:21:40 We should be deporting you.
01:21:44 If you don't have all these immigrants, what happens is housing.
01:21:47 Costs go down.
01:21:48 All of a sudden, all of a.
01:21:50 Sudden you can afford to buy a house.
01:21:54 All of a sudden, companies.
01:21:56 That need a fry cook or a dishwasher or whatever, have to actually pay what people are willing to get paid.
01:22:04 And and do that job.
01:22:07 That's what happens.
Speaker
01:22:10 All of a.
Speaker 3
01:22:10 Sudden we get a world like the boomers.
Devon
01:22:15 All these things that people have been complaining about, like, oh, look, the boomers, you know, they could buy a house for, you know, $8000 in the car for like $1000. And, you know, college tuition was nothing. And, yeah, supply and demand.
01:22:31 That market forces were still at work when the Boomers were growing up.
01:22:36 They weren't being artificially ****** with by.
01:22:40 The funny thing is, by the same people that claim to support free markets.
01:22:46 You know all these, all these libertarians?
01:22:50 Look, I had tons of friends.
01:22:51 There were libertarians.
01:22:52 What I did libertarian stuff that would always like that was always that that was.
01:22:57 Always a big sticking point.
01:22:58 Of me was the.
01:22:59 Border thing, because I'd lived in border states, I'd been in enriched communities my whole life, these *****.
01:23:08 These ******* N northern and and and coastal *****.
01:23:14 That have been living off Daddy's ******* money and never, ever, ever.
01:23:19 I mean, let alone live in one of these ethnic neighborhoods.
01:23:22 They've never even been in one of these ******* ethnic they didn't know they.
01:23:24 They had no ******* contact with these people that they wanted to import by the millions so that their daddies dividends would go up.
01:23:40 These ***** would make every ******* excuse.
01:23:43 In the world well.
01:23:45 If Americans are it's supply and demand, it's the free market.
01:23:50 If they're willing to do the job for cheaper, they should be allowed to do the job for cheaper.
01:23:59 And and and and using that excuse to fund their the source of their generational wealth.
01:24:10 They ****** everybody else over.
01:24:14 And they were.
01:24:14 They were literally destroying this snow called free market that they loved so much.
01:24:23 So anyway.
Speaker 14
01:24:26 There's more white immigrants in this country than coloured.
Devon
01:24:28 I wish I I don't know.
01:24:30 If that's true back.
01:24:32 That's certainly not true in the West now, by any any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 14
01:24:38 The biggest population is mine.
01:24:40 Irish is the most immigrants in.
01:24:41 The island.
Speaker 3
01:24:42 Yeah. Are you really?
Speaker 15
01:24:45 Do you?
01:24:45 What about then do?
01:24:46 You get prejudice against you because you're Irish.
Speaker 14
01:24:48 I mean, yes, I get it.
01:24:49 Like, you get all the jokes and sit this and fix that.
Speaker 15
01:24:52 How do you actually think about the Irish jokes?
Speaker 14
01:24:55 It's just stupidity.
01:24:56 They got they.
01:24:56 Have to pick it out, they.
01:24:57 Have been that yeah.
Speaker 15
01:25:01 What about further things than that?
01:25:02 I mean, how long have your family been in England?
Speaker 14
01:25:05 1011 years, no, about 15 years maybe.
Speaker 15
01:25:06 On that about 59. So what nationality would you say you were?
Speaker 14
01:25:12 Born Irish but.
01:25:13 I've English brought up.
01:25:14 I was brought through the English system schooling system.
Speaker 15
01:25:15 Yes. So what are you?
01:25:19 It doesn't matter anyway.
Speaker 14
01:25:20 It don't worry me.
Devon
01:25:22 See and there.
01:25:23 There, there you have.
01:25:24 The problem therein lies the problem.
01:25:27 Even though this guy's.
01:25:28 Irish, you can tell he can't.
01:25:30 Just say, oh, I'm I'm I'm English.
01:25:36 So if he can't, if he's struggling, he can't do that.
01:25:39 He can't identify with the nation that he came to the came to.
01:25:43 For whatever who knows why?
01:25:47 How do you expect someone from Ghana?
01:25:49 Or the Congo.
01:25:53 Or El Salvador or Haiti.
01:25:58 How do you expect one of those people to just?
01:26:00 Be like, oh, I'm American.
01:26:03 And we can all relate to this.
01:26:06 You know people, you always use the example like if you moved to Japan, would you think to yourself?
01:26:11 I'm Japanese.
01:26:16 No one would.
01:26:17 Unless you're like this turbo web.
Speaker 14
01:26:21 I say I'm Irish, but I have to live in the country, so anyway, I can't go home.
01:26:24 I've got nothing to go home to.
01:26:25 It's like most of the colored people they.
01:26:27 Got nothing out that they brought in the country.
Devon
01:26:30 Ohh, hold on.
01:26:31 Hold on, hold.
01:26:31 On did he just complain about colored people in Ireland or did I misunderstand that?
Speaker 15
01:26:36 So what are you?
01:26:39 It doesn't matter anyway it does.
Speaker 14
01:26:40 Sorry mate.
01:26:42 I say I'm Irish, but I have to live in the country, so anyway, I can't go home.
01:26:45 I've got nothing to go home to.
01:26:47 It's like most of the colored people.
01:26:48 They got nothing up.
Devon
01:26:49 I guess not.
01:26:50 I I thought he was saying that I have nothing to go home to in Ireland because it's mostly colored people, but now he's saying that that he has nothing to go home to in the same way that the color.
01:27:00 People are going to go home to, which is.
01:27:02 First of all, not true and.
01:27:04 Second of all, not our problem if it was.
Speaker 14
01:27:05 That they brought in the country.
Speaker 15
01:27:07 Is anybody else in here this afternoon?
01:27:08 It's not a true blue Brit.
01:27:10 What else have we got?
01:27:11 Ohh, but how?
01:27:11 It's going up everywhere.
Devon
01:27:14 Ohh good haha great. Our country's disintegrating.
Speaker 15
01:27:18 OK, right.
01:27:18 Start the back there, yeah.
Speaker 10
01:27:20 I was telling like, agree with what he said.
01:27:21 My parents came up here to work.
01:27:23 My father worked in a farm my mother worked in hospital and they did dirty work and they worked down hard.
01:27:28 And I don't think no one's got the right to say, hey, look, you've you've helped us get this.
01:27:32 Country on the road, you know, get out.
Speaker 15
01:27:34 Yeah, you're the first thing.
Speaker 8
01:27:35 You I think what it is everyone has to fall into some kind of category.
01:27:38 You have to like a certain kind of music dress in a certain kind.
01:27:40 Way you have certain cultural beliefs, and if you don't, then you're picked on.
Speaker 15
01:27:45 Does anybody feel?
01:27:46 We'll come to you next week.
Speaker 9
01:27:47 Well, I was just going to say that we mentioned the.
01:27:49 Fact that the.
01:27:49 Media sharing out all this.
Devon
01:27:54 Look at this.
01:27:55 Look at this beauty.
01:27:59 See in cells are nothing new either.
Speaker 9
01:28:01 In gross simplification.
01:28:02 But of course we're the ones that consume the media.
01:28:05 We provide the demand for it and you're mentioning what the issues are involved.
01:28:10 I'd say there are two main issues.
01:28:11 One is that simply different people can be racially different and just irrational prejudices can be set up because of that.
01:28:20 And secondly, perhaps more importantly, there can be cultural differences.
01:28:23 And that's more within our control because you can actually try to integrate cultures and make them understand one another.
Devon
01:28:29 Ah, the spiteful mutant.
Speaker 9
01:28:31 And I'd suggest that, as he did that, it's very important for people not to say I am right.
01:28:36 You are wrong to say that everything is relative and personal.
Devon
01:28:39 Everything's relative. Everything, including morality, especially morality.
01:28:44 There's no universal truths.
01:28:47 It's all about your truth.
01:28:50 Trust me, I've been burned with acid.
01:28:52 I've been through a lot.
01:28:52 Now I know, I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 9
01:28:57 And that once that's established, this sort of tribal instinct of staying in one's own, her to protect oneself and to be correct, we'll hopefully disappear and fade away, and then we'll integrate.
Speaker 15
01:29:08 Yeah, perhaps we could come over to Clive Norton now from the Jewish border deputies, because the Jewish name.
Devon
01:29:14 The Jewish Board of Deputies.
01:29:15 This should be interesting.
Speaker 13
01:29:17 Let's let's talk to.
Devon
01:29:18 Clive from the Jewish Board of Deputies.
Speaker 15
01:29:24 Has been very strong on the point of group identity because it's been scattered through things.
01:29:29 Would you like to answer that point of?
Devon
01:29:30 Ohh yeah, let's talk about your your Jewish Ingram preference.
Speaker
01:29:35 Would you like to talk about?
Devon
01:29:36 That this, this should be good.
01:29:37 I actually haven't seen this.
01:29:38 So we're we're watching this together.
01:29:40 For the first time.
Speaker 15
01:29:41 But integration and as a solution to racial problems.
Speaker 19
01:29:46 You see, I like his use of the word integration.
01:29:48 I think that that's a strong idea.
01:29:51 That's the patchwork quilt idea you get.
Devon
01:29:54 That that's what we need, guys.
01:29:55 That's that's a good idea.
01:29:57 We need the AIDS quilt strategy.
01:30:00 We need the melting pot strategy.
01:30:02 I, as a Jew, think it's a very good idea to completely ignore your question about my in Group preference and immediately launch into a soliloquy about how everyone else needs to mix together in this country.
01:30:16 Like a like a patchwork of of filth.
Speaker 19
01:30:20 A variety of cultures and.
Devon
01:30:22 A rainbow.
Speaker 19
01:30:24 Attitudes to life.
01:30:26 And it can be as basic as a food.
01:30:28 Culture. It can be a.
Devon
01:30:29 All the food, the ethnic food is so good.
01:30:32 It's so good it it makes it totally worth it.
01:30:35 The food.
Speaker 19
01:30:36 Total philosophy of life and those people with those different cultures can learn to live with and together.
01:30:40 I think that's the value of diversity, I think.
Devon
01:30:43 Diversity is our strength.
01:30:46 Just just ask Clive.
01:30:49 From the the the What is the Jewish Board of Deputies or whatever the?
01:30:53 **** that thing is.
01:30:55 Who completely ignored the the question about his tribalism, his in Group preference and just launched directly into telling you why it's good that you integrate everything.
Speaker 19
01:31:05 And that's the way God created the world, diverse.
01:31:07 And so I think that the the secret is to encourage people, first of all, to be proud of their own identity.
Devon
01:31:15 Oh, that's even better.
01:31:17 That's even better now.
01:31:18 You don't hear that so much?
01:31:20 Well, you never hear that.
01:31:21 This never applied to white people.
01:31:24 Whenever they would say that that never applied to white people like in America, for example, they would always, you know, encourage you to say I'm African American.
01:31:33 I'm Mexican American.
01:31:34 I'm, you know, hyphenated American, right.
01:31:36 But I mean, they would never, ever if you said Caucasian American, you know.
01:31:43 Anglo American or something like that?
01:31:47 I don't think it would have gotten you.
01:31:49 Beat up or or or or.
01:31:51 Ostracized or removed from society, but it would.
01:31:53 Certainly be weird.
01:31:54 That was not something that was encouraged and it was not something that was ever used and mainstream talk.
01:32:00 But you always heard African American, Mexican, American, all kinds of because tribalism is always good.
01:32:08 In every group.
01:32:09 Except whites, because it promotes strength.
01:32:17 And the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Speaker 19
01:32:19 Whatever that might be.
01:32:20 And while being proud of that identity not to deny.
Devon
01:32:23 Once again, you gotta.
01:32:24 Have to be proud of it too.
01:32:28 You can't have white pride.
01:32:29 That's that.
01:32:30 That will get you ostracized.
01:32:32 If you say I've white pride, that will get you removed from social situations and possibly employment, and that that was true look.
01:32:39 But if you go back to the 90s, that was true.
01:32:42 Like it was one thing to have, you know, a handful of skinheads at the high school.
01:32:45 But you those skinheads, don't you know you don't have a handful of skinheads at the office.
01:32:51 You know you don't have.
01:32:52 You don't have anyone that's talking about no one.
01:32:56 That's an accepted member of society.
01:32:58 No one that's that's taken seriously.
01:33:03 Is allowed to have any kind of white.
Speaker 19
01:33:04 Pride. Great. I'll look down on anybody elses and particularly somebody mentioned the word stereotype before, particularly not to stereotype other people's identity.
Devon
01:33:13 Yes, because pattern recognition is bad.
01:33:17 You shouldn't be able to get available data.
01:33:20 Look for patterns in that data and then make generalizations based on that data.
01:33:26 Because if you do that.
01:33:29 Then you're just, you're stereotyping.
01:33:33 It doesn't matter if every single time.
01:33:37 A group behaves in a certain way.
01:33:40 You can't point those patterns.
Speaker 20
01:33:42 Out, that's bad.
Devon
01:33:44 And it's dangerous for people like Clive.
Speaker 19
01:33:48 And I know that if I think that all the Frenchmen ride bicycles with striped jerseys and and and and and onions over the handlebars.
01:33:56 And I go to France on a holiday and I drive around and I see several million Frenchmen, and none of them are on bicycles with striped jerseys and onions over the handlebars.
01:34:04 I ignored them all, and then one day, on the very last day of my holiday, I.
01:34:07 See a guy with a striped jersey.
01:34:09 Hands over the handlebars, he might be German for all I know, but I take a photograph of him and I take it home and I show everybody and I say look typical.
01:34:16 Frenchman because I already made-up my mind I already stereotyped, I already decided.
Speaker 15
01:34:22 Plenty of hands, but start in the middle here.
01:34:24 On my back because.
01:34:26 That's it, ladies first.
Speaker 18
01:34:28 I I think this thing might be the prejudice.
01:34:31 I think a lot of it's to do with their own shortcomings and things like that.
01:34:36 I mean, take Hitler and the Jews.
Devon
01:34:41 It was only a matter of time, right?
01:34:44 It had it had to.
01:34:45 Come up eventually.
01:34:47 Just think of Hitler and the Jews.
01:34:50 It's always about Hitler and the Jews.
Speaker 18
01:34:52 And most of that started because he went to Vienna and he didn't make it as he wanted.
01:34:56 To make it.
01:34:57 And so he blamed the Jews and people can't get jobs, so they blame other people. Well, it's not the other people's fault.
Speaker 19
01:35:03 OK, Clive, if you wanna come back on that, yeah, it's you see, we make it true.
01:35:06 It doesn't matter actually what the evidence is.
01:35:09 You see, you've heard people.
Devon
01:35:10 Oh, you want to talk about evidence?
01:35:14 You want to talk about crime statistics?
01:35:16 See, it's all in your head, goy.
01:35:21 Until you look at the crime statistics.
01:35:27 We're not imagining 13 does 50 are actually the numbers worse nowadays, murder went up 30% last year, 30%.
01:35:38 30%.
01:35:42 In a single year.
01:35:46 And it wasn't white people doing that.
Speaker 19
01:35:48 People say about blacks or about Asians.
01:35:50 They take our jobs.
01:35:51 You've also heard them say that they live off Social Security.
01:35:55 You see that?
01:35:55 What they.
Devon
01:35:56 Right, because they literally do both.
01:35:59 They were systematically importing these people specifically to have jobs.
01:36:05 But not all of them are going to be capable of holding down the jobs.
01:36:09 So what do you do with them?
01:36:10 You put them.
01:36:10 On on the social.
01:36:16 That's the that's the same case in America.
01:36:18 Yes, you have Mexicans, you know.
01:36:21 Well, now Haitians and everybody else, right, coming across the southern border.
01:36:26 Many of them.
01:36:28 Are taking low skilled jobs or as I already mentioned.
01:36:33 They're flooding the job market and driving wages down.
01:36:39 Well, not all of them are going to get jobs.
01:36:43 So what do you do with them?
01:36:44 They're not being supported by the by the people making next to nothing, right?
01:36:51 You know the guy that that's getting paid $4.00 an hour to wash dishes and then sends the, you know, three of those dollars back home.
01:36:58 Tell Salvador.
01:37:02 He he's not. He's not paying for the, you know, his buddy that that came across the Rio Grande with him and and didn't find a job. Someone's paying for that.
01:37:15 But no, because.
01:37:18 Clive here.
01:37:21 With his fancy small hat.
01:37:26 He's telling you that that's a contradiction.
01:37:28 2 things can't possibly.
01:37:30 These two things can't be true at the same time.
01:37:32 You can't have immigrants that are both taking jobs and also sucking from the.
01:37:36 The social.
01:37:39 Can't pause. That's that's impossible.
Speaker 19
01:37:42 Done is they decided this is an other group.
01:37:44 It's not our group and we don't like them.
Devon
01:37:47 And and Clive takes this personally.
01:37:51 I wonder why someone like Clive would be so concerned about the British viewing someone else as.
01:37:59 An other group.
01:38:02 Why is he expending so much of his energy?
01:38:07 On convincing the British.
01:38:10 To not look at other groups.
01:38:14 As other groups.
Speaker 19
01:38:17 And then whatever evidence comes their way, that's what they've decided they're going to dislike, so that if they've got jobs that's bad, and if they haven't got jobs, that's bad.
01:38:26 And if they're rich, that's bad.
01:38:27 And if they're poor, that's bad.
01:38:29 And if they got lots?
01:38:29 Of children, that's bad, and they've got no child.
Devon
01:38:31 Right.
01:38:33 Because they're a different group.
01:38:37 There are competing group.
01:38:42 You should know all about that.
01:38:46 Because everything you're saying.
01:38:49 Is exactly how you view white people.
01:38:53 It's bad if they're poor.
01:38:55 It's bad if they're rich.
01:38:58 It's bad.
01:39:00 And there are competing group.
01:39:04 You just don't like them.
01:39:08 You want them wiped off the face of the earth.
01:39:12 Because you see them as the only real competition.
01:39:19 So you don't mind temporarily holding up these other groups?
01:39:25 In your never ending quest.
01:39:29 To destroy the only real competition you see.
Speaker 19
01:39:37 But that's also bad because they've decided they don't like that group, and that's what prejudice means.
01:39:41 It means prejudging, deciding on something, regardless of the evidence, and taking no notice of any information that comes your way.
Devon
01:39:50 Ah, so tiresome.
Speaker 15
01:39:53 Right, OK.
01:39:53 We've got a clot of opinion at the back there.
Speaker 21
01:39:55 Yeah, but prejudice doesn't just sort of spring out of a well when you sort of get to the age of 17 or 12 or whatever and realise that one person's one colour or another person's a different colour from yourself.
01:40:05 There may be a sort of slight emotional, you know, identification with people who are the same colour, but it's worked on.
01:40:11 By the media and I think far more worrying is when you see prejudice in institutions.
Devon
01:40:17 See notice how this guy?
01:40:19 I thought he was.
01:40:20 I thought he was about to be bad.
01:40:22 When he said prejudice doesn't just spring out of a well, you know, when you turn 17, you just magically, I thought that he would put it together.
01:40:30 But then he totally derailed the train.
01:40:33 He made a good point, a good observation.
01:40:35 No, it doesn't.
01:40:36 Just spring out of it out of nowhere.
01:40:38 So where does?
01:40:38 It come from, oh, it comes from the media.
01:40:47 It comes from the education system.
01:40:51 Now that sounds.
01:40:53 Unbelievably ridiculous here in in in 20.
01:40:57 21.
01:40:59 But I I I would submit, unless Britain was.
01:41:04 Completely different.
01:41:06 And I mean totally different than the United States.
01:41:10 It would have been a ridiculous thing to say in the 80s too.
01:41:15 It would have been ridiculous.
01:41:23 That somehow the source of white people being agitated.
Speaker 13
01:41:29 With these these new these.
Devon
01:41:32 New Englishmen?
01:41:36 Was somehow rooted in the influence of a racist media.
01:41:42 Or a racist academia teaching them to hate.
01:41:47 Non whites.
01:41:52 But that's what this guy believes.
Speaker 21
01:41:54 Within our society, like the National Health Service, the police, perhaps.
Speaker 15
01:41:58 It's coming off well going up right?
01:42:00 Over here, haven't.
01:42:00 Been over here.
Speaker 22
01:42:01 We were talking earlier about race discrimination.
01:42:04 I don't about anybody.
01:42:05 Else, but I found that I've moved around a lot when I was younger and I found that when I moved from one city to another city, I found that I was discriminated against.
01:42:16 I was pushed out completely.
01:42:18 I found myself and bullied.
01:42:21 And push around.
01:42:24 It was really horrible.
Speaker 15
01:42:26 Why do you think that happened?
01:42:27 What comes back I?
Speaker 22
01:42:28 Think it's basically had a different accent?
01:42:31 I acted differently.
01:42:34 I don't know.
01:42:35 Maybe it's because I was brought up in a.
01:42:36 Different family in a different way from there.
Speaker 15
01:42:38 So what did you do about your accent?
01:42:39 Did you change?
01:42:40 It and try and affect it.
Speaker 22
01:42:42 I found out that I became very aware of how I spoke and what I said I found I developed a Yorkshire accent so quickly it was unbelievable.
Speaker 15
01:42:52 And you, you did that purely to.
Devon
01:42:54 Yeah. You mean you assimilated?
01:43:00 The bullying, as I've talked about in the past.
01:43:04 Is the immune system.
01:43:07 Of the community reacting to a foreign body.
01:43:13 Entering the system and it worked in her case, she might.
01:43:16 Not have liked it.
01:43:18 But it worked.
01:43:21 She altered her behavior.
01:43:22 She even altered her accent.
01:43:24 In order to fit in.
01:43:27 Mission accomplished.
01:43:30 That's how a healthy community behaves.
Speaker 15
01:43:36 55.
Speaker 22
01:43:37 But it didn't change it.
01:43:38 I was still discriminated against after that because I knew I wasn't from that area.
Speaker 15
01:43:44 Do you think Yorkshire people are particularly good at this?
01:43:46 Type of thing.
01:43:47 That's a racist.
Speaker 22
01:43:49 Yes it is.
01:43:50 But I mean the fact.
Speaker 2
01:43:53 Ohh see again.
Devon
01:43:55 They they they don't see the.
01:43:58 God the the complete inconsistencies in what they're saying.
01:44:03 Oh, it's all prejudice, all prejudice.
01:44:05 It's all prejudice.
01:44:06 What do you think your your Yorkshire people are particularly bad at this?
01:44:09 Well, yes.
01:44:11 Well, aren't you being prejudice now?
01:44:14 That's just a fact.
01:44:17 So you can make generalizations that are probably true about the Yorkshire people.
01:44:23 But don't make generalizations about black people.
01:44:26 Even if they're true.
01:44:28 Because then you're a racist.
Speaker 22
01:44:31 Basically because I found that when I moved to Lincoln, I was OK.
01:44:35 I was happy when I moved to Leeds I was unhappy and when I moved back down again I was happy again.
01:44:42 So I think.
01:44:42 It it is very much like that.
Devon
01:44:44 All that proves is you don't like leads.
Speaker 15
01:44:47 OK, right, let's come after 5.
Speaker 19
01:44:49 Well, you know that sort of statement.
01:44:51 Yorkshire people are so and so and you say, well, that's what I found.
01:44:55 That's all from the root of prejudice.
01:44:56 People have a single experience and from that they generalize.
Devon
01:44:59 That's not a single experience.
01:45:04 See this Jew is so.
01:45:06 ******* ****** *** because he.
01:45:07 He he realized he saw the same thing I saw.
01:45:11 And he realizes the audience.
01:45:12 Is gonna be like, well, wait a second.
01:45:19 Very clever.
01:45:20 Very clever, Clive.
01:45:21 Very clever.
01:45:24 So he's going to try to dismiss all this.
01:45:27 No, no, no, no.
01:45:28 You just had a single experience.
01:45:29 You mean like living in?
01:45:30 A community and having.
01:45:31 Several experiences every single day of your life for however long you were there, and those those culminating in into a a large data set that you're then using to make judgments.
01:45:46 Isn't that isn't that more realistic, Clive?
01:45:49 Wouldn't that be like a a better way of explaining her her experience, Clive?
01:45:54 No, of course not.
01:45:56 She's just flying off the handle based on this one anomaly.
01:46:03 And that's what racist and prejudice people do.
01:46:06 They have this one bad experience.
01:46:09 You know some black guys having a bad day and gives them a dirty look.
01:46:14 On the train or something?
01:46:17 And from that point on, they're just like I ******* hate black people.
01:46:22 Ever since that one gave me a dirty look.
01:46:25 ******* hate him.
Speaker 19
01:46:28 Their whole experience.
01:46:29 So you met some Yorkshire people?
01:46:31 Presumably not all.
01:46:32 And you made a decision about Yorkshire people as a.
01:46:34 Whole and.
Devon
01:46:35 See see.
01:46:36 Unless you met every Yorkshire person.
01:46:40 You can't make judgments.
01:46:41 You have to meet.
01:46:42 You have to.
01:46:42 Interact with every single black person on Earth.
01:46:46 Before you can make any kind of generalization.
01:46:50 Because I, you know, black people can't have lower IQ's on average, because I've got a black friend who has got a high IQ.
01:47:02 He's attacking your ability to reason.
01:47:06 That's all this is.
01:47:06 About by the way.
01:47:11 They're attacking your ability to think.
01:47:20 Most of the success.
01:47:24 Of Europeans.
01:47:27 Over the last few centuries.
01:47:32 And their dominance over other people.
01:47:39 Has a lot to do with.
01:47:41 Their ability to reason.
01:47:47 Their ability to be rational.
01:47:52 Their ability to then.
01:47:56 Think you know I don't want to say like a computer, but, you know, think logically.
01:48:06 And he's trying to undermine.
01:48:11 That beautiful thing about Europeans?
01:48:22 By exploiting another beautiful thing about Europeans.
01:48:29 And that is their empathy.
01:48:36 He's trying to leverage.
01:48:40 Something that's good about them.
01:48:43 To destroy.
01:48:45 Something else that's good about them?
01:48:46 It's ******* evil.
01:48:47 It's ******* evil.
Speaker 19
01:48:49 Met some Lincoln people and and and.
01:48:52 And you made a decision about Lincolnshire people as a whole.
01:48:55 What happens is you get a limited experience and you extrapolate out of that for for everybody.
Devon
01:49:00 Right, that's that's literally how Messias works, dude.
01:49:07 You will never be able to get a data set that's, that's.
01:49:11 That includes all possible data, no matter what you're studying.
01:49:17 That's that's not you can't do that.
01:49:23 And so you're always your data set is always limited.
01:49:26 In some way.
01:49:35 And you have to work with the data that you have available.
01:49:44 But you're telling us? No.
01:49:47 Ignore all available data.
01:49:50 And instead embrace this Jewish dogma.
01:49:57 Because your data will never be sufficient.
01:50:04 And notice how he's never required to provide any data for his views.
01:50:07 It's just it's just assumed.
01:50:10 No, we're just the same.
01:50:12 Where's your data, Clive?
01:50:15 Where's your ******* data?
01:50:18 Where's the data that you have, Clive?
01:50:23 This shows how we're we're all the same.
01:50:31 Speaking of sweeping generalizations, I can't think of a more sweeping generalization.
Speaker 5
01:50:37 Then saying everyone's the ******* same Clive.
Devon
01:50:47 It's evil.
Speaker 19
01:50:50 And that's one of the dangers of prejudice.
01:50:52 Again, it's having limited information and making a a broad scale judgment.
01:50:57 You see for me.
01:50:59 As a Jew, as a child.
01:51:01 I was beaten up at school, right?
Speaker 4
01:51:03 But what?
Speaker 5
01:51:03 Well, I'm starting to.
01:51:04 I'm starting to figure.
Devon
01:51:05 Out why Clive?
01:51:08 Maybe that was the immune system.
Speaker 19
01:51:10 Whether I was beaten up at school for being a Jew, or whether I was beaten up at school for being fat and unpleasant, I really don't know.
01:51:16 To this fairly day.
01:51:18 And nobody really told me because whatever they said, those were often just excuses for what they wanted to do, which was beat me up because they identified me as being.
01:51:26 Out of the group.
Devon
01:51:27 Right.
01:51:28 They identified you as a foreign body attempting to undermine.
01:51:34 The strength of the society.
01:51:36 Something you've taken so seriously it is.
01:51:39 Now literally your profession.
01:51:42 I can't imagine.
01:51:46 Why they would react negatively to a person like that?
Speaker 15
01:51:50 Hey, can we go right over against the?
01:51:51 Back wall there.
Speaker 23
01:51:52 Before we.
01:51:53 Came here.
Devon
01:51:53 By the way, if that even ******* happened.
Speaker 23
01:51:56 We weren't talking about race.
01:51:58 We came in and we started talking to other people without analyzing the problem and we got on quite well with.
01:52:03 Other people so moralising on it isn't going is going to do no good.
01:52:08 You want to do something.
Speaker 15
01:52:10 Like what?
Speaker 23
01:52:12 Like going out and talking to black people like, like, not saying I'm not going to go to black people.
01:52:16 Well, when you when you see someone talk to him.
Speaker 15
01:52:19 Yes, yes.
01:52:21 Do you do that, Austin?
01:52:22 Or is this another first?
Speaker 23
01:52:24 It's another first time for me.
Speaker 15
01:52:26 Is it really?
01:52:27 Don't you think this is astounding?
01:52:29 What about black people who have never spoken to a white person?
Speaker 17
01:52:33 Anybody those two blocks to setting probably never seen a color block or talk to a color block, right?
01:52:38 Probably suppose some color block knock at the door right at the moment that opened the door.
01:52:43 What did?
01:52:43 What would they think?
01:52:44 I'll come and see your son.
01:52:46 Meaning his friend and never seen you before.
01:52:48 Talked to you before.
01:52:50 So this is mom going to accept it.
01:52:52 Or instead, or just turning away.
01:52:57 Yeah, I'm going out.
01:52:58 With a white girl.
Speaker 20
01:53:01 What would it be like if I was to?
01:53:02 Go out with White boy, then.
Devon
01:53:09 Isn't that kind of funny?
01:53:10 He's talking about how they would not accept it.
01:53:14 Which is ********, right?
01:53:15 The boomers would be ******* throwing a party if their son brought home a black friend.
01:53:21 But he's talking about how he's dating a.
01:53:22 White girl.
01:53:24 And and and how her family accepted it.
01:53:27 So, like basically he this.
01:53:28 Guy's got no evidence either, right?
01:53:30 And and and.
01:53:31 What does the black woman say?
01:53:32 Well, would you accept it if I dated a white?
01:53:34 Right.
01:53:35 And they and all the black guys freak out.
Speaker 20
01:53:38 Yeah, black guys don't accept that, do they?
Speaker 11
01:53:39 Well, why not?
01:53:41 Parents, your parents got to accept it.
01:53:43 If his parents accept him going away, why go?
01:53:46 Why can't your parents accept?
Speaker 20
01:53:47 My parents accept anything that's.
Speaker 3
01:53:48 The right one.
Speaker 20
01:53:49 Not the fact I mean, the fact is you get you walk down the street.
Speaker 11
01:53:51 Yeah, but if you're tipping off the white block and you take him and says, mum, I want to marry him.
01:53:55 Right.
01:53:56 Where's where's she going to say?
Speaker 15
01:54:00 Just just a minute.
01:54:01 It's the point you're making that it's the other black boys who don't like you going.
Speaker 20
01:54:04 Yeah. One second. No, no.
Speaker 17
01:54:04 Out the street.
Devon
01:54:07 See look that every black girl's like nodding their head yes.
01:54:13 And look, that's something people can relate to white men.
01:54:17 Have a visceral instinctual.
01:54:21 If they're healthy white men.
01:54:23 Negative reaction.
01:54:26 When you see these advertisements.
01:54:29 They were bombarded with.
01:54:31 Where it's like literally every at this point is a black guy with.
01:54:35 A white woman.
01:54:37 And every movie at this point is like a.
01:54:39 Black guy with.
01:54:40 A white woman.
01:54:42 I mean, it's obviously on purpose what they're doing, right?
01:54:45 Like there's no way.
01:54:46 It's just coincidentally, this is how we cast everything.
01:54:51 You know, whether it's whether it's a movie, a commercial for ******* role aides, it's always.
01:54:59 It's always a black guy and a white.
01:55:01 Woman has.
01:55:01 To be even if it's a print ad.
Speaker
01:55:06 I mean we.
Devon
01:55:07 Don't need to point this out.
01:55:08 This is something that's been pointed out ad nauseam, right?
01:55:11 Like you guys.
01:55:11 Get it?
01:55:12 All you do is.
01:55:14 Turn on a TV or, you know, look at a magazine.
01:55:18 It's obvious.
01:55:22 And if you're a healthy.
01:55:25 Well adjusted white person.
01:55:27 It turns your stomach a little bit.
01:55:32 And it honestly, it doesn't have to deal with hating.
01:55:36 The the the, the black person that's in that photo.
01:55:40 It's understanding what that means.
01:55:44 To your genetics.
01:55:49 Every groups like that, it's not just white people.
01:55:51 Every groups like that and males will see that because males are the ones that are supposed to be the protectors of the female, the.
01:55:58 Part of the reason of the protector of the female you're the protector of the children is you're the protector of the genetics of that people.
01:56:09 And when you see.
01:56:12 These black guy with, you know, blonde woman advertisements that are ******* everywhere.
01:56:20 You see that as a threat to your genetics.
01:56:26 And it's no different.
01:56:27 The black guys are the same way the the black guys they're talking about.
01:56:32 They get that spurge out when they date a white guy.
01:56:37 It's literally the same thing now.
01:56:39 They might not articulate it quite like that, but it's it's literally the same thing.
01:56:43 It's the same thing with Jews.
01:56:45 The Jewish mother that that loses her **** when she finds out that her Jewish daughter is dating a guy.
Speaker 3
01:56:55 Every group.
Devon
01:57:02 Because ultimately.
01:57:05 Rate when? When.
01:57:06 When it comes to the different races.
01:57:10 It's part of your extended family.
01:57:19 You're the guardian of your phenotype.
01:57:28 And when you see an outsider.
01:57:33 Move in.
01:57:35 And confiscate.
01:57:38 Part of your gene pool.
01:57:48 It makes your Spidey sense.
01:57:50 Go go wild.
01:57:55 Because you know that those genes are no longer they, they will exit the group.
01:58:00 And just as a result, your group gets smaller.
01:58:09 On a massive scale, it equates it.
01:58:11 It's literally genocide.
01:58:14 Because you will cease to exist.
01:58:19 Maybe individually, you know, like the one that the black guy with the white woman, not a big deal, right?
01:58:23 Maybe on a small scale in the micro it's not a big deal, is it gonna?
01:58:27 Is it going to change your life now?
01:58:28 Is it gonna, you know, is it going to change her life?
01:58:31 Probably she.
01:58:32 Might be in a.
01:58:32 Headline. Who knows?
01:58:34 Oh, and I'm just.
01:58:35 I'm I'm looking at.
01:58:36 Limited data, right?
01:58:37 And I'm making these sweeping.
01:58:44 But its death got by 1000.
01:58:45 Cuts when it's done on a large scale.
01:58:55 It will be the end of your.
01:58:56 People, if done on a large enough scale.
Speaker 15
01:59:00 So you finish and then we'll come straight onto you up there.
01:59:03 Hang on.
Speaker 19
01:59:04 Hold your.
Speaker 20
01:59:04 Horses, right?
Speaker 3
01:59:05 No, no.
Speaker 20
01:59:06 I mean, what you got here, right?
01:59:07 You've got blacks from different countries in the West Indies, right?
Speaker 3
01:59:10 Yeah, we're all we all.
Speaker 20
01:59:12 Talk about each other.
01:59:13 We're all precious about each other.
01:59:14 Right, you've got the black Americans.
01:59:16 You've got the black Africans, you've got the black West.
01:59:18 Indies and we're not.
01:59:19 One right.
Speaker 11
01:59:19 The destiny.
Speaker 20
01:59:21 What are you talking about?
01:59:22 We're just producing as ourselves as.
Speaker 15
01:59:24 We are.
01:59:24 Is anybody else in the?
Speaker 22
01:59:26 Blue, I think there's.
Speaker 24
01:59:26 Was prejudice between whites as well?
01:59:28 Because I'm Jewish and I know if I take.
Devon
01:59:31 Another one.
Speaker 3
01:59:37 Oh, alright, let's see what the.
Devon
01:59:40 Fellow White has to say.
Speaker 24
01:59:42 A Christian guy.
01:59:43 Home my parents are gonna say get.
01:59:44 Him out.
01:59:44 He's not Jewish, you know.
Devon
01:59:46 Well, there you go.
01:59:47 She at least she reinforced what I was just mentioning.
Speaker 24
01:59:49 Don't mix it in that way so it isn't only between blacks and whites, it's between like, here's white and I'm white.
01:59:54 But I'm English and here's Irish or.
Devon
01:59:56 Well, you're not really white, but go on.
Speaker 24
01:59:59 You're Christian.
02:00:00 I'm Jewish.
02:00:01 It's between whites as well.
Speaker 15
02:00:04 Yeah, right. Yes, fine.
Speaker 19
02:00:05 Yeah, I think that you see by talking.
02:00:07 About race as if it means anything anyway, because.
Devon
02:00:10 Oh oh, climb.
02:00:15 So full of wisdom.
02:00:18 Talking about race as.
02:00:20 If it means anything anyway.
02:00:23 It means nothing, says Clive.
02:00:27 A member of a a racial group.
02:00:33 So exclusive.
02:00:35 And they make him wear.
02:00:38 They make him cut off part of.
02:00:39 *** ****.
02:00:40 And wear a stupid little hat in public.
02:00:45 The race means nothing.
02:00:49 It's totally irrelevant.
02:00:52 Every single ******* time.
02:00:54 Guys, I'm not looking for this.
02:00:55 I didn't even know I had.
02:00:56 No, I had not watched this.
02:00:59 I'd watched the intro.
02:01:01 I had no idea this Clive ************ was even in this video.
02:01:06 I really didn't.
02:01:07 It really is.
02:01:09 Every single ******* time.
02:01:11 This was not a plan.
02:01:14 That's the ****** thing is it doesn't.
Speaker
02:01:16 You don't, you?
Devon
02:01:17 You don't need a plan.
Speaker 1
02:01:18 For this.
Devon
02:01:26 You just need to.
02:01:28 Oh, I'm sorry.
02:01:28 Am I just am I again?
02:01:29 Am I working with limited data and making sweeping generalizations?
Speaker 19
02:01:34 I don't know what race means as a term.
02:01:37 You know, we we might talk about colour.
02:01:40 We're gonna talk about blacks and Browns and.
Devon
02:01:42 See, it's it's all just skin color.
02:01:44 Guys, stop.
02:01:45 Using your reason.
02:01:47 Stop using your brains.
02:01:50 Embrace the Jewish dogma.
Speaker 19
02:01:52 Yellows and Reds and whites.
02:01:54 And how do we?
02:01:55 You know when we're talking about blacks?
02:01:57 Do we mean deep black and light brown and medium coffee coloured.
02:02:02 You know, I I think that kind of colour business detracts us and distracts us from the real differences that exist.
02:02:09 And those are cultural.
02:02:11 National economic class differences and that's where it really lies and that's why blacks can be prejudice against blacks and whites can be prejudice against whites and Browns can be prejudice.
Speaker 4
02:02:22 Come on.
Speaker 15
02:02:22 OK.
02:02:23 Can we start taking it cause we're winding up now, so if you this is your last chance and can we start getting some what you think should be done positively in this country about the awful situation that we're in smack in smack on anything else that's got your back up at all as quickly as you can can go very fast say two sentences each right there.
Speaker 17
02:02:39 I think there should be no black police.
02:02:41 Because there's a.
Speaker 19
02:02:42 Lot of, yeah, but why?
02:02:43 Do you think there is no?
Speaker 15
02:02:46 Listen, I mean, doesn't the black community close in on somebody that comes a policeman, blacks.
Speaker 8
02:02:52 If you see a black policeman.
Speaker 9
02:02:54 The blacks themselves want to beat them themselves.
Devon
02:02:58 They've always hated the cops because the cops are like when you when your group commits all the crime.
Speaker 15
02:03:05 Why don't you wanna do?
02:03:06 Because I think, but don't you think in the end it would help you if more people of your life infiltrated?
02:03:07 Because then.
Speaker 5
02:03:07 They would wanna do they think that?
Speaker 2
02:03:09 Black men should not be there.
02:03:14 It would help, but are the black people are?
Speaker 15
02:03:14 The police force.
Speaker 19
02:03:17 Self won't let it.
Speaker 15
02:03:18 Help over here.
Speaker 20
02:03:19 No, I don't know.
02:03:20 I mean, you talk about black police and everything else.
Speaker 5
02:03:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 20
02:03:22 When people like black people get to a certain, you know, status.
Speaker
02:03:23 It would still be prejudice.
Speaker 20
02:03:27 Or whatever it is.
02:03:27 What happens?
02:03:28 He ultimately forgets it.
02:03:30 He thinks he's completely different from the rest of.
Speaker 25
02:03:32 Channel 1.
Speaker 20
02:03:32 Us So what happens?
Speaker 3
02:03:34 Then all he.
Speaker 20
02:03:34 Do is he just leaves you, moves to a different district and he's he's that isn't he?
02:03:38 And that's it.
Speaker 15
02:03:39 Can I talk to?
Devon
02:03:40 You know what?
02:03:40 Another thing?
02:03:41 She's what she's describing.
02:03:44 A lot of.
02:03:45 Our white ruling class are guilty of exactly that.
02:03:50 She's saying that blacks will reach a certain status.
02:03:54 And then immediately forget that they're black.
02:03:57 In other words, she's saying that they will immediately throw their loyalty to their group.
02:04:03 Right out the ******* window and try to conform to the higher status.
02:04:10 And when you see white people in the ruling class that throw their people under the bus, that's precisely what's happening.
02:04:18 They've become a good goy, and they're getting patted on the head, maybe their belly scratched and they like it.
02:04:26 And so they.
02:04:26 Immediately throw their people under the bus.
02:04:29 Because they want to be in.
02:04:30 This new group.
02:04:32 Hell, some of them marry into it, like Trump's family.
Speaker 15
02:04:36 You just must.
Devon
02:04:37 And Biden's family, for that matter.
Speaker 15
02:04:39 If they pretend they're white.
Speaker 10
02:04:41 When you get to a certain status, you become a white person and you want a certain amount.
Speaker 25
02:04:44 Of money.
02:04:44 And you're white, aren't you?
Speaker 15
02:04:45 There's a step up to be a white person.
02:04:47 No, like take.
Speaker 25
02:04:48 This the skinheads.
02:04:49 Right like that.
02:04:49 Girl said they'll they.
02:04:51 I mean they, they're unemployed and everything.
02:04:52 They should be without fighting, establishment for jobs and things, not fighting against us.
02:04:57 I mean, the government, they're sort of conning them into believing we're the enemy.
02:05:00 We're not.
02:05:01 We're with them.
02:05:02 We should be fighting together for jobs.
02:05:04 But how's everything?
Devon
02:05:05 See that?
02:05:06 And now you'll see that the the tired.
02:05:08 It's the government trying to divide us.
02:05:11 If they're trying to divide us.
02:05:12 That argument, that's so ******* gay.
02:05:16 I'm so tired.
02:05:17 Of that ******* argument.
02:05:18 No, guys, we should be banding.
02:05:20 Together with the Mexicans.
02:05:24 We should be banding together with the blacks.
Speaker 3
02:05:27 We should be banding.
Devon
02:05:28 Together with with people that that have a completely different worldview and have different objectives.
02:05:38 Because reasons.
02:05:44 We're all the same.
Speaker
02:05:47 If you if you really think.
Devon
02:05:48 About it, we're all the same.
02:05:50 We're not.
Speaker 25
02:05:51 Anything you know, it's not, not not black against white.
02:05:54 I mean, you should be.
Speaker 5
02:05:54 Where we are.
Speaker 25
02:05:55 Fighting the rich people.
Devon
02:05:57 Well, we should be fighting the rich people, but like, that's.
02:06:01 The rich people, that's the real.
02:06:03 That's the that's the real question.
02:06:07 I bet Clive.
02:06:08 Would have a hard time with that one.
02:06:11 Who were the rich people, Clive?
02:06:15 What do you get paid?
02:06:16 The dude who's?
02:06:16 Paying you to do it, Clive.
02:06:22 That's, that's actually the end.
02:06:23 Of it.
02:06:24 Oh, Clive.
02:06:32 Where does your money come from, Clive?
02:06:39 How many? How many?
02:06:42 Analogous people are there.
02:06:45 This is just one guy.
02:06:46 In one country.
02:06:49 With some weird made-up, you know official sounding title like was the the Board of Jewish Deputies or something stupid like that?
02:06:56 Doesn't matter, it's just some ******* made-up title to make you sound like you.
02:06:59 Have some kind of authority.
02:07:06 How many similar?
02:07:08 People were out in Britain at the time.
02:07:15 Interfacing with.
02:07:18 You know, maybe high schools.
02:07:25 And doing speeches.
02:07:28 At benefits.
02:07:33 Over and over.
02:07:34 And over pushing the.
02:07:37 Ignore rationality and reason.
02:07:40 And embraced Jewish dogma.
02:07:43 That's the way to go.
02:07:44 That's the way of the future.
02:07:47 Everything will be fine.
02:08:05 ******* Clive ******* Clive.
Speaker 12
02:08:17 All right.
Devon
02:08:19 I think we're going to.
02:08:22 Go to chat here.
02:08:23 That's pretty much what I.
02:08:24 Wanted to go over.
02:08:27 I found this while I was looking for some other stuff.
02:08:38 Thought, oh, this might be interesting to watch together.
02:08:40 I had no idea, Clive.
02:08:42 An appearance, but I don't know why I'm.
02:08:43 I'm not surprised, right?
02:08:45 Why would I be?
02:08:46 I'm a little surprised at like how.
02:08:47 Obvious Clive is.
02:08:50 You know.
02:08:51 That I, you know, no early life necessary.
02:08:55 I'm wearing my wearing my ******* hat.
02:09:00 But anyway, let's take a.
02:09:02 Look at chat.
02:09:03 I know that's a little bit different on.
02:09:06 Odyssey, in a weird way, it almost makes it.
02:09:08 Easier for us or for me?
02:09:12 Uh. Interesting fact. Spain's ruling class limited white migration to Spanish America because they want a black Amerindian slave colonies and too many white people would have made the colonies to autonomous, powerful and hard to control so much potential.
02:09:31 Taste it well, right?
02:09:32 Well, that they were right, I guess.
02:09:33 I mean, cause, look, that's what right you look at North America or at least.
02:09:39 You know, America and Canada, that's precisely what happened, right?
02:09:41 They they sent over too many white people or too many white people emigrated to the United States.
02:09:49 And or what is now the United States and and Canada.
02:09:52 And that's exactly what happened.
02:09:54 You got independence.
02:09:55 Whereas in the South America and.
02:09:59 And in the the bottom half of North America.
02:10:02 You still have a largely.
02:10:07 I don't want to say like.
02:10:10 Trying the right word, but you know non white population, but you do have little pockets.
02:10:15 Like if you look at the Mexican ruling class and and this is true of all those countries, they're weirdly they they look whiter for some reason or Jewish or there's a lot of Jews in South America like a shocking amount.
02:10:27 Of Jews and the.
02:10:28 The ruling class of South America as well.
02:10:32 UM.
02:10:34 Do you talk to your family much these days?
02:10:37 Yeah, I talked to my.
02:10:41 Why are you asking?
02:10:45 Yeah, my family is cool.
02:10:49 They're not, they're not as uh.
02:10:52 Not all of them are as black pilled or.
02:10:57 Or whatever, but most of them at least kind of get it as much as you can expect.
Speaker
02:11:07 Let's see here.
Devon
02:11:12 Ask us, or as a true folk assembly and Norse odonus church, that is, for those of European heritage only, they have a 501C nonprofit religious status. They managed to obtain this while having their headquarters in California, of all places.
02:11:32 Also, Antelope Hill Publishing is a publishing group that and then it cut off special something.
02:11:43 Hey Devin, I finally got to watching the Matrix trilogy for the first time and experienced it on shrooms and throughout the viewing experience.
02:11:53 The only thing that plagued my mind was why did the Jews allow this film to be made and have this whole cultural phenomenon?
02:12:03 That I was purposely and then it.
02:12:05 Cuts off this.
02:12:06 Is apparently you can't leave long comments like that.
02:12:12 Well, I mean, like you, you kind of you got to kind of wonder why the writers of that series immediately after the success of that film became ********.
02:12:22 And I don't know about the new one.
02:12:25 And oh, by the way, the other two are are are lame.
02:12:27 I didn't like the this.
02:12:29 The first one was was a good movie, but the the.
02:12:31 Other two I just.
02:12:33 It would turn into like a multicultural hellscape.
02:12:37 I mean, I guess I kind of always was right.
02:12:39 Like you had a what, Morpheus or whatever his name was, it was a black guy.
02:12:44 And you know.
02:12:44 I guess it was always kind of like the Super friends, but you know, when it was just like you see there when you saw like their their secret.
02:12:53 City or whatever, and it was like tribal music and some weird **** rave thing.
02:12:58 I don't know the whole thing.
02:13:00 Kind of.
02:13:00 Seemed gay.
02:13:03 And then the new one is supposed to be super gay.
02:13:06 But I have no idea.
Speaker
02:13:12 I've gone through here.
Devon
02:13:15 Alright, I'm going to try to read.
02:13:20 The the Super chatty things.
02:13:26 Letrec, have you ever read about the Muslim rape gangs in the UK?
02:13:32 It's so sick.
02:13:33 It doesn't sound real well, it's still ongoing and it it is real.
02:13:38 Uh. Israel. Israel anyway? Yeah.
02:13:43 And yeah, it's still ongoing and it's still being covered up.
02:13:49 Purge and it's cutting off your rest of.
02:13:51 Your name.
02:13:52 Play this Tumen Irish clip well.
02:13:56 It's not letting.
02:13:57 Well, maybe I can do that.
02:13:58 Let me see.
Speaker
02:14:01 Why is it doing that?
Devon
02:14:06 No, it's, you know, I'm gonna have to.
02:14:08 Figure how to like.
02:14:10 Like the only way I'm able to even read what you said is I'm hovering the mouse over your name and the chat thing at the top and it's saying your comment.
02:14:18 But if I click on it or anything like that, it brings up your profile.
02:14:23 So uh.
02:14:26 It kind of sucks.
02:14:27 I'm sure there's another way to do this.
02:14:28 I just don't know how to do it.
02:14:33 I'll figure that out, though I'm still learning this.
02:14:37 And well, I'm also going to figure out maybe putting entropy.
02:14:39 Or something else up that's.
02:14:41 A little got a better interface.
Speaker
02:14:45 Let's see what else we got.
Devon
02:14:52 And then.
02:14:54 As here.
02:14:58 It's cutting off all it says is Astro turf, but I don't know why.
02:15:01 So I don't know what that's saying.
02:15:04 Hello Boys, says spike vicious.
02:15:07 I'm thinking crack house.
02:15:09 Is giving us our pants emoji for some reason.
02:15:13 Monkey something says find some cheap land and buy in Alaska.
02:15:17 Yet no, I haven't.
02:15:19 I haven't been.
02:15:20 You know, we're not at that stage yet.
02:15:23 But it's it's definitely that's an option.
02:15:26 Alaska is an option.
02:15:28 I I just, I don't know.
02:15:30 You gotta.
02:15:30 I I've invested a lot of time and money and and where I'm at now and where I'm at now isn't the worst place to be to start something.
02:15:40 And so I'm trying to see if it's worth it because I really, I I would hate honestly.
02:15:45 I'll do it if I have to, but I'd hate to just.
02:15:48 You know it would.
02:15:48 It would feel like the last three years were kind of just for nothing, you know, like, I kind of feel like I put a lot into this place, making it habitable and everything else.
02:15:57 Yeah, I I gotta do what I.
02:15:58 Gotta do.
02:15:59 It's just I I would.
02:16:00 Prefer to.
02:16:02 Salvage what I got already.
02:16:03 It would just make things so much easier, and there's some other aspects.
02:16:06 To where I'm at that that that I picked.
02:16:09 This part that helped me pick this location.
02:16:12 The 1st place that make it kind of good for what we're talking about.
02:16:15 So I don't know.
02:16:17 But yeah, I'm going to be considering all places.
02:16:23 Hey, Devin, have you read the mass of war?
02:16:25 Highly recommend, since it's about the US military.
02:16:30 Just check out Amazon summary of the book.
02:16:31 Also Wiki the Metcalf sniper attack.
02:16:35 The Wiki article is short and slightly flocked with, but it's a good read regardless.
02:16:46 Told you a little tired tonight.
Speaker 4
02:16:49 Massive war.
Devon
02:16:54 Alright, I got it on my my list.
02:17:00 And Metcalf sniper attack?
02:17:04 That sounds familiar.
02:17:08 I feel like I've seen that or read about that.
02:17:14 OK. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. So on April 16th, 2013, attack was carried out in the Pacific. Gas PG and E's Metcalf. Transmission substation in Coyote, CA, near the border of San Jose.
02:17:29 The attack in which a gunman fired on 17 electrical Transformers resulting in more than $15 million worth of damage of equipment.
02:17:38 But it had an impact on the stations.
02:17:40 Yeah, I mean, look, you'd be surprised at how vulnerable a lot of infrastructure is.
02:17:51 Have you heard of the Rove beetle?
02:17:56 It's a bug that mimics pheromones and ants.
02:18:01 And ants movements to trick the ants, that is one that is one of them, when allowed to be led into the Ant colony, it proceeds to destroy it from.
02:18:08 The inside reminds me of Clive and his ilk.
02:18:14 The Rove beetle.
02:18:17 Let's see what a row of beetle looks like.
02:18:24 Made me think of Karl Rove.
Speaker
02:18:26 For some reason.
Devon
02:18:29 OK.
02:18:31 It does look kind of like an Ant.
02:18:40 Here's a row beetle.
02:18:42 We'll bring this up.
02:18:51 We'll put it right underneath Clive here.
02:18:56 I'll try to shrink it down.
02:18:57 It's huge.
02:19:07 The Rove beetle.
02:19:15 What are your thoughts? 132 Republican signatures on red flag? Yeah, I barely looked into that today.
02:19:20 It's not surprising.
02:19:22 I don't know why people keep thinking that Republicans are on your side.
02:19:25 They're not.
02:19:26 On the flip side, though, my understanding is that's still just.
02:19:31 It hasn't passed the Senate, right?
02:19:34 And lots of crazy stuff passes the house that that doesn't pass the Senate.
02:19:38 And and there might be some weird legislative strategy to doing that knowing that that that's going to get removed or something, I don't know.
02:19:46 But you should never expect.
02:19:48 Look, we all know where this is going.
02:19:50 We know where this is going.
02:19:53 We know where this is going, so my thoughts are like most of this stuff.
02:19:56 I'm not surprised at all.
02:19:57 That's why we're that's where we're literally looking at at contingency plans because we know that you can't trust representatives, you know, so-called in government to look out for our best interests and if no one else is going to be doing that.
02:20:13 You mean you got to do it?
02:20:17 That's as simple as.
02:20:20 So yeah, I'm not shocked at all this stuff is just going to accelerate.
02:20:25 I look at the history of Latin America and see the independence movements were spearheaded by the minority creola class people entirely, or almost entirely Spanish descent born in Latin America?
02:20:40 Yeah, no, there.
02:20:41 There's a lot of.
02:20:45 There's a lot of very white looking.
02:20:49 Mexican ruling class people.
02:20:52 We are all in that place, Devon.
02:20:53 But what we're going to do must keep pushing.
02:20:56 All on what?
02:20:57 I'm not sure what you're responding to.
02:21:01 Where are the worst places to relocate to where the worst places?
02:21:06 I don't know, like San Francisco.
Speaker
02:21:12 Let's see here.
Devon
02:21:15 It seems like every local school board is.
02:21:20 OK, mask mandates people against people's wishes. Therefore we can't even go local now. It's probably in most of these places.
02:21:30 It's not really against people's wishes. I mean, you honestly, I hate to say it. A lot of these anti mask people are are a vocal minority. That doesn't mean you can't get what you want.
02:21:40 But just because you have a school board meeting and you have like maybe 20 or 30 or maybe 50 people show up and scream at the school board.
02:21:48 That doesn't mean I mean these people will most likely still get reelected.
02:21:53 They will.
02:21:55 Because they they know that this is a vocal minority and it just is, it just is.
02:22:03 Now, there are probably parts of the country where that's not the case, and you can work local, but that's The thing is, you can't work local and like again like San Francisco, you.
02:22:15 It would be insane unless you had a crazy amount of resources, right?
02:22:21 And you had a very long timeline then.
02:22:24 Yeah, you could take back San Francisco.
02:22:26 You could take back anywhere, right?
02:22:28 Because you just have to replicate what your enemies.
02:22:31 To take it from you, or at least you know your version of that.
02:22:35 But they're just, they're demonstrating that it's possible, right?
02:22:39 Just with enough money and enough time, you.
02:22:40 Can do.
02:22:41 That we don't have money or time and so trying to at least maybe that could be a really long term goal, but we kind of have.
02:22:51 Existential threat on our hands right now, that requires attention.
02:22:55 That is a little more.
02:23:01 Current that's not the right word, but you know it's it's a little more pressing.
02:23:07 It's a higher priority.
02:23:10 And so it's that's that's where my attention is right now is going to, if you're going to do something local, it's got to be some place where you can actually.
02:23:20 Make that happen now.
02:23:21 There's also an element of.
02:23:23 Just silence from people that that it's not worth.
02:23:28 To them right, it's not worth it to them to get politically involved.
02:23:34 And so they just stay quiet and they just silently let the school board and all these other groups do whatever they want.
02:23:42 That's more.
02:23:43 That's more often the case is people just don't want to get off their ***** and actually do anything.
02:23:49 And so.
02:23:51 You know it is what it.
02:23:52 Is and a lot of these school board guys look, you got to remember in the same way that like Agenda 21 and now 20.
02:23:59 30 or whatever.
02:24:00 Isn't it interesting, by the way, that this is? Who would have thought when just a few years ago people were saying like Agenda 21, Agenda 21/20/21, who would have thought that there would be a a significant?
02:24:12 Almost panicked uptick in tyranny starting in 2020.
02:24:18 That would balloon to ridiculous.
02:24:22 You know, we're confiscating your KFC proportions in places like Australia.
02:24:27 Right or or I guess that was New Zealand.
02:24:31 So it's it's, it's interesting, right that we know that there's now it's agenda 20-30, but it's almost as if they they're trying desperately to keep to a timeline on some of this stuff. But anyway a lot of that stuff gets handed down too. You'd be surprised at how local that would get. You would have these things that would originate in.
02:24:51 Think tanks and in places like the OR like the UN.
02:24:57 These studies that would be used to inform policy and and and just policy recommendations by all these trusted experts and stuff they would get handed down all the way down to the local level with the intent of making it more difficult to do the sort of thing that.
02:25:17 That we're talking about doing right, the creating the Community by doing stuff like limiting water usage rights and and just trying to make living rural a an impossibility for the average person.
02:25:29 So the only person that can actually acquire a land and start building a community.
02:25:34 Is someone that's already part of the club that's going to have the ability to to afford all the compliance that will be necessary in order to, you know, have water and electricity and sewage and all this other stuff.
02:25:45 And so that that way they can make sure that you don't create a community that's not playing by their rules.
02:25:53 That's something you got to watch out for.
02:25:54 That's something that's going to be increasing.
02:25:56 All over the.
02:25:56 Place Mexico City is Jewish.
02:25:59 Mayor is removing a statue of Columbus from the inner city and replacing it with a statue.
02:26:03 Of an engine woman.
02:26:05 Yep, not surprised in the least. Not surprised in the least watched the 1973 film executive Action. I feel like I've seen that.
02:26:13 UM.
02:26:17 That sounds familiar.
02:26:18 Let me look.
02:26:32 Executive action.
02:26:36 It's a JFK movie, maybe I haven't seen this.
02:26:43 Well, I mean, if it's a JFK movie from the 1970s, it's going to be full of misinformation.
02:26:49 But you know, I haven't seen.
02:26:50 That, are there any white S Africans you know or have talked to?
02:26:54 They are a window into the future.
02:26:56 Yeah, there's a few that I talked to somewhat regularly.
02:27:02 Things have calmed down there a little bit for now, but we're all on the same trajectory.
02:27:08 You know, it's just, uh, there's going to be.
02:27:11 It's like you.
02:27:11 Well, it's like when you look at any trend graph, it's never just like a straight ******* line, right?
02:27:17 It's a jagged line that goes down eventually, and in that travel to the bottom.
02:27:25 You know, sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down, sometimes it goes up.
02:27:29 Sometimes you know, sometimes you think.
02:27:31 You're going oh, we've.
02:27:32 Turned it around.
02:27:33 But you know ultimately it always goes back down, but sometimes it also nose.
02:27:37 Knives and like, oh, we're all going to die and then.
02:27:39 It comes back up, that's all.
02:27:40 That is, that's all it is.
02:27:43 Is when you had like the craziness that was happening in South Africa just a few months ago and it looked like, well, this might be it, this this could legit be the race war or whatever.
02:27:51 And then it, you know, it kind of lost its steam that was, you know, a perfect example of think of like Bitcoin loses 50% one day, but then.
02:28:01 Comes back up.
02:28:01 You know, 40 it's still down.
02:28:04 But it's no longer the end of the world.
02:28:06 You know what I mean?
02:28:07 That's the kind of thing that's happened to, you know, in even in this country, right, when you had the BLM riots and the cops just doing nothing and just like it just seemed like Trump was letting the the country get burned down.
02:28:21 And it was just becoming this lawless, you know, shithole.
02:28:24 And then it.
02:28:25 Kind of.
02:28:26 Came back a little bit, but never, never back to you know it's.
02:28:29 It's former glory, right?
02:28:31 Because we're on a downtrend and so there's some.
02:28:34 There's some places we'll never go up back up to.
02:28:38 And that's just the way. That's just the way history is. It's not. It's not everything's messy.
02:28:44 You know everything organic is messy.
Speaker
02:28:48 UM.
Devon
02:28:50 All right, so last one.
02:28:53 I've looked at wealthy, historically white neighborhoods of South Africa's major cities. On Google Earth, they look a lot like White American suburbs, but all the houses are.
02:29:03 Surrounded by huge walls topped with barbed wire.
02:29:07 Yes, that is true.
02:29:08 And and they have armed guards like instead of.
02:29:11 Like, if you go to one of these suburban, you know, white suburban neighborhoods in America, they've got, like, the Little Guard house or whatever.
02:29:21 But they, you know.
02:29:22 That's, I mean they have like real guard houses.
02:29:27 In South Africa.
02:29:29 So alright.
02:29:32 Anyway, someone someone asked, are they going to do a gun grab?
02:29:35 Probably not.
02:29:35 Not for a long.
02:29:36 I mean, here's the thing.
02:29:38 The two way people will never.
02:29:41 They'll just let it die slowly, in the same way that they'll never.
02:29:47 They're not going to be like, ohh you crossed the line.
02:29:49 That was enough.
02:29:50 In fact, that's an interesting thing.
02:29:52 The next time you meet one of.
02:29:53 These, like my guns guy.
02:29:55 Ask him.
02:29:56 OK, what's the line?
02:29:58 Like you keep saying that, like, oh, you've got these guns because if you.
02:30:01 Know if the government ever *****.
02:30:02 With me that I'm going to do something.
02:30:05 They they won't do anything.
02:30:07 And and and and if they if they, they argue with you say alright.
02:30:10 Well, what what?
Speaker
02:30:10 Is it?
Devon
02:30:11 And The funny thing is, they always say that.
02:30:13 Right.
02:30:13 Well, if the gun, if they try.
02:30:15 To take my guns, then I'll use them.
02:30:17 I don't know.
02:30:18 It just seems ridiculous to me.
02:30:20 Yeah, it just and I don't know, maybe I'm the only one that sees kind of.
02:30:24 The irony in that?
02:30:26 So basically what you're saying.
02:30:27 Is that you could.
02:30:28 They'll let you'll let.
02:30:29 Them do literally anything as long as they let you hold you.
02:30:31 On to your security blanket.
02:30:33 You know as.
02:30:34 Long as they let you cuddle your your AR15 at night and and and let it make you feel like everything's OK.
02:30:41 As long as.
02:30:41 They let you have it.
02:30:42 You'll never.
02:30:45 But that's that's the truth.
02:30:46 That's pretty much the majority of of gun people.
02:30:50 And so I don't know that they would ever want to take them like, you know, you know, most in a way it kind of makes them feel.
02:30:56 I mean, I don't know it.
02:30:58 I guess it's a mixed bag, right?
02:31:00 Because there are like a **** ton of guns in America, like a.
02:31:03 **** ton of guns.
02:31:05 And so it at the very least it does keep them in check in that it gives them a speed limit, right.
02:31:12 Like they know that.
02:31:15 If they crossed the line like what you're seeing in Australia, right where people are getting violent now, right?
02:31:22 But they don't have guns.
02:31:23 But I think things would go a little differently in Australia right now because they have crossed the line, they have exceeded the speed limit with the public.
02:31:32 But one of the reasons why they did that is they don't.
02:31:35 They're they're not worried about guns, so they can do that.
02:31:38 So I think all, all the, all the guns do is it implements a speed limit for the ruling.
02:31:43 Class. That's it.
02:31:45 It just means that you can only go so far so fast, and I I feel like they've kind of mastered that to some extent.
02:31:54 But I think also inevitably they they will screw up and just who knows when or what that will be.
02:32:01 I just, I don't know.
02:32:01 I hear a lot of tough talk from people and and you know, and I get why they don't do anything.
02:32:06 It's like, what would you do?
02:32:07 And it and just to coordinate it, it would just be you.
02:32:09 Know what I mean?
02:32:10 Like it just.
02:32:14 Another reason why having a centralized community is so important.
02:32:19 Because on a local level you could defend it.
02:32:22 From from the outside, right?
Speaker 3
02:32:24 Oh, what about where you?
Devon
02:32:26 Dude again.
02:32:28 Wouldn't you rather go out?
02:32:31 Like that, then, then, then go out the other way.
02:32:34 I guess some people are post season.
02:32:35 No, they'd rather be slaves and be bled dry and whatever.
02:32:38 Right.
02:32:39 But it it's like, if they're that hell bent on destroying me and my family.
02:32:46 You know what I mean?
02:32:47 I don't know.
02:32:48 To me, the choice is clear.
02:32:50 I would rather have.
02:32:51 And again, it wouldn't be like some militant ******* compound in a in a Waco is one of the ways Waco funked up is they did make it very gun oriented.
02:33:01 I mean they and not, you know, like maybe not his religion or whatever, but the way they made money.
02:33:06 Was gun shows.
02:33:07 That's why the ATF got involved, was they?
02:33:11 Well, I don't think that the the Branch Davidians were like militia people or anything like that.
02:33:16 But they were like gun people, you know?
02:33:19 And there were not that excuses anything that the federal government did.
02:33:23 But there were some instances where I think they had an undercover ATF agent, you know, infiltrate the group and the way they justified.
02:33:35 The the invasion and the mass murder of children.
02:33:39 Was that they modified a trigger mechanism to make a gun fully automatic, right, which is illegal.
02:33:46 And that's all he.
02:33:46 Needed, which also underscores the importance of if you create a community like this, you can't.
02:33:53 You can't be doing shady ****.
02:33:56 You have to, you have to be very on top of of what you're doing because you know they're going to find they're going to look for any excuse they can.
02:34:05 To come after you.
02:34:07 And it's also important to have, because of this a good relationship with whatever the local county government is.
02:34:13 You know, there's so many moving pieces with this, but that the the Branch Davidians, one of the things that left them open to that, the danger they ended up being in was the fact that I, I think their sole income really.
02:34:28 From guns, I mean they were basically arms.
02:34:31 I mean, it was legal.
02:34:32 I mean, for the most for.
02:34:33 Most of what they did.
02:34:34 Right.
02:34:34 It was legal.
02:34:35 It wasn't like.
02:34:36 They were.
02:34:37 Selling guns to the Taliban, like the CIA, right?
02:34:40 And then ******** about it when they the Taliban used them against them.
02:34:44 You know, they were just.
02:34:45 They were just being capitalists with guns, but because you get the the uppity ATF that that wants so badly to to look like a ******* superhero standing over the smoldering body of a 7 year old.
02:34:57 And taking photos and then and then later being hired by a false president.
02:35:09 To be in charge of the the same people kinds of people that you.
02:35:14 That you mass.
02:35:14 Murdered in a ball of boomer ****** glory.
02:35:22 You know, you just can't give them excuses.
02:35:24 You can't give them excuses.
02:35:27 You got to be very careful about what it is you have in your home, the kinds of things that you do.
02:35:33 You got to try to make sure you, you know, cross all.
02:35:35 Your T's don't all.
02:35:36 Your eyes because they will look for they'll look for vulnerabilities and so don't make it easier.
02:35:43 You know, for them.
02:35:44 So anyway.
02:35:47 With that, I'm going to bail.
02:35:52 And maybe even try to get some sleep.
02:35:56 Watch out for the whatever these Beatles called.
02:36:00 The something Beatles? I don't.
02:36:02 Know the Clive beetles.
02:36:04 Watch out for the Clive beetles.
02:36:08 Be very aware that the Clive beetles are everywhere.
02:36:13 For black Pilled time, of course.
Speaker 26
02:36:17 Transphobia is just a little room in the house that white supremacy is.
02:36:23 And so for me, I'm consistently always thinking about what can I do to end wax supremacy?
02:36:30 What can I do?
02:36:31 What actions do I need to take to actually interrupt this as a system?
02:36:42 So my name is Earl Han.
02:36:44 I attended Central State University, which is a historically black College in Wilberforce.
02:36:49 OH, and that really painted a lot of clarity for me around who I was.
02:36:56 And who I would become later on in my.
02:37:00 Over the course of the last several years, I've been deeply involved nationally with the development of the movement for Black Lives, but also the Black Lives Matter network.
02:37:13 The March for Black Women has been long overdue.
02:37:17 And so for me it was a no brainer that if black women are taking a stand, if we're marching and saying that our lives are of value and we're demanding this from communities around us, then there's no reason why trans women would not.
02:37:33 Be a part of that conversation.
02:37:35 The partnership between SIS and trans women who are black is just something that is essential to the survival of black communities and to the sustainability of our movement.
Speaker 4
02:38:00 I speak to you.
Speaker 27
02:38:01 Black trans women, yeah.
Speaker 3
02:38:03 I ask for you in this space and in every space.
Speaker 16
02:38:10 Remember that you will honor.
Speaker 20
02:38:17 And then remember that today and every.
Speaker 3
02:38:19 Day we are riding our tackle.
02:38:24 We stand with you today.
Speaker 20
02:38:34 To demand that we are honored and protected.
Speaker 3
02:38:37 And the same way that we remain the same from you.
Speaker 27
02:38:42 The gathering of black women to honor black.
Speaker 26
02:38:45 Women has been.
Speaker 27
02:38:47 An amazing experience.
02:38:48 And so it's been uplifting messages, defending, supporting, honoring leadership, honoring the truth.
02:38:57 And honoring black.
02:38:58 Women, just as they are and the lives that we live as black people whose lives are not complete, you know, we are striving.
02:39:05 Every single day.
02:39:06 To get to our best self.
02:39:08 And this March is.
02:39:09 Really a reflection of black women saying.
02:39:12 That we've been.
02:39:13 Our best selves.
02:39:14 We just haven't been honored and so we're honoring.
02:39:16 Ourselves and we're.
02:39:17 Requiring everyone else to hold themselves accountable in time.
Speaker 11
02:39:21 As well.
Speaker 26
02:39:30 We have consistently seen violence, but we've also consistently seen erasure around.
02:39:35 Access to our own empowerment and our own ability to develop communities that are thriving.
02:39:41 And it's not fair to expect trans activists to fix transphobia.
02:39:45 That is something that it requires everyone to fix.
02:40:08 She spent so much of her life trying to honor others, and it just felt really important for the this the sacredness of her life and the legacy of her work to really make sure that it was continuing in that many more trans women have access to her and that know how great she was.
02:40:27 I think the most important thing that I hope to accomplish is that.
02:40:32 Those who come in contact with the institute that they're able to live, that they are able to be free and to really be able to define that for themselves.
02:40:42 If people can come to the Institute and define what success they want to get out of it, that for me would be the best accomplishment.