INSOMNIA STREAM： OATMAN EDITION.mp3

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00:08:41 Let's let's let's get into what we're talking about tonight.
00:08:44 Called the open edition.
00:08:48 The ultimate edition for those of you who haven't guessed yet, it's about Olive Oatman, the story of Olive Oatman.
00:08:57 A factor.
00:08:58 I believe there there used to be two, but there's still one town.
00:09:03 In Arizona, named after Olive Oatman, it's a cowboy story that is being maligned and being rewritten and revised lately. Can't imagine why.
00:09:17 Can't imagine why that the narrative of the olive Oatman story is is trying to be why it's being smeared and and and mutilated to fit.
00:09:29 I don't.
00:09:29 Modern sensitivities, shall we say.
00:09:33 Well, let's see what really happened.
00:09:35 Let's look at original sources as I have.
00:09:39 Including newspapers, her own accounts.
00:09:43 And let's let's just take a look at for those of you who don't know the story, which is.
00:09:48 Most of you have not.
00:09:49 Well, probably not all of you, but a lot of you.
00:09:52 And see how it might relate to many of the the issues of multiculturalism 'cause it is a story about multiculturalism.
00:10:02 How it might relate to the multiculturalism issues of today?
00:10:07 See as many people well know and as many even more people like to rub in their faces.
00:10:15 Of people that would like America to remain a white country.
00:10:19 It wasn't always.
00:10:22 A land.
00:10:22 Of white people.
00:10:23 They like to tell you that you were once.
00:10:27 The immigrants to this land.
00:10:30 You are once the mass immigration taking place on this continent, replacing demographically replacing people.
00:10:39 And now now this is your revenge.
00:10:44 This is your revenge.
00:10:48 Because it's totally.
00:10:49 It's totally the same, right?
00:10:52 It's totally the same. All these white people came from Europe to enjoy the wonderful infrastructure and the institutions and the welfare state of the Native Americans so they could go to their colleges.
00:11:07 They could go to the Native American colleges and work at the Native American companies.
00:11:13 And live in the Native American cities that they had built.
00:11:20 So it's totally the same.
00:11:23 It's totally the same and you know, and when the white people showed up.
00:11:28 The Native Americans, they welcomed them with open arms.
00:11:32 They said, hey, here's a here's a debit card 'cause. We've invented all that.
00:11:36 Here's a debit card where you know.
00:11:38 Fact we're.
00:11:39 Gonna fly you into the interior of the country with airplanes that we've also invented.
00:11:46 And I'll set you up in some nice hotel that we built.
00:11:51 And yeah, you can eat all the the fresh.
00:11:55 Groceries and and and and food and and and healthcare.
00:12:00 All provided for free.
00:12:04 Through our our, our foresight and genius.
00:12:08 Because of our developed civilization.
00:12:11 That you came here to take advantage of white man.
00:12:15 See, it's all the same.
00:12:16 Exactly the same.
00:12:21 Obviously it's not the same and you know, but it doesn't matter.
00:12:25 You'll still hear even if the people that will admit that it's not the same. They like to gloss over the what, what it was like.
00:12:33 Now going all the way back to, you know, in kindergarten, when they tell you about the pilgrims and, oh, the first Thanksgiving.
00:12:40 The first Thanksgiving, the white people showed up and they they were just totally unprepared.
00:12:44 Don't know what they were doing.
00:12:46 And then the genius agricultural knowledge of the Indians saved them.
00:12:52 And so Thanksgiving is where we we say thanks to the Indians for.
00:12:57 Showing Whitey how to survive because we were just a bunch of fucking idiots.
00:13:01 Didn't know what we were doing.
00:13:03 And that's generally how it's viewed from that point on. And then we got too big for our britches, right.
00:13:11 After we, we were welcomed with open arms.
00:13:14 Then started scheming.
00:13:16 We started scheming like.
00:13:20 How can we take advantage of these innocent bright eyed Indians?
00:13:25 They're so peaceful and one with nature, but because we're evil and conniving, we are going to trick them.
00:13:34 They don't even understand land.
00:13:36 We're going to trick them into giving us their land and and we're going to get blankets and rub smallpox all over them and give them smallpox and wipe them out.
00:13:49 They will give him.
00:13:50 Ply them with alcohol, fire, water, they'll call it.
00:13:55 And they all just, well, kill all the Buffalo, and we'll just be these evil fox that spread like a virus across the continent, wiping them out.
00:14:07 But was.
00:14:07 Was it really like that?
00:14:10 Was it really like that?
00:14:13 You know, and it's funny because just like everything else, all these narratives from the civil rights movement that you hear when you go back to the original reporting, you find out that, oh, you know, really, it was just as much peaceful protests in the 1960s.
00:14:28 As it is, it was during George Floyd.
00:14:31 And if you don't preserve this history, then your kids are.
00:14:35 Especially if they go to public schools, are gonna grow up learning a a a version of history.
00:14:42 That what does it do?
00:14:43 It's meant to.
00:14:46 Deliver a narrative.
00:14:49 Deliver the narrative that white people are bad.
00:14:51 Don't deserve anything that they.
00:14:52 Everything they've got, they've got from being evil and trickery and.
00:14:58 And and exploitation.
00:15:00 Slavery. White people invented slavery.
00:15:07 I mean, certainly the Native Americans weren't practicing slavery.
00:15:11 The white man brought slavery to North America.
00:15:14 Was unheard of.
00:15:16 Slavery was.
00:15:18 It was this invention of the white man.
00:15:23 Well, if you believe that you might be a little bit.
00:15:27 Tonight.
00:15:29 So let's start at the best place to start at the beginning.
00:15:35 All of Oatman.
00:15:37 She was born in Laharp, Illinois, in Hancock County.
00:15:43 In on September 7th, 1837.
00:15:49 Now she was born to a Mormon family.
00:15:52 That was in Illinois because at the time, a lot of Mormons were moving into Illinois, gathering together because they.
00:16:00 They were trying to figure out where to go after the the the friction that was happening between the Mormons and the people in Missouri.
00:16:10 I've mentioned.
00:16:12 The execution order that was signed by the Governor of Missouri. This is right.
00:16:16 Right when she was born. She's born at a time when Mormons.
00:16:22 The reason why they're in Utah today is they were fleeing.
00:16:27 The the, the the parts of the East Coast where they used to where they used to live, where East Coast, slash Midwest, right.
00:16:37 So she's born 1837, when she turns 14.
00:16:43 There is a break off of the Mormons that's called this is olive Oatman, by the way.
00:16:49 There's a break off of the the Mormons called the Brewster rights.
00:16:55 Now the Brewster.
00:16:57 And there was actually a few of these kind of break off groups and the reason why is this was a very.
00:17:03 Bumpy part of the the Mormon.
00:17:06 The Mormons were relatively new religion and led by Joseph Smith, and he was incarcerated and and they and was subsequently killed by a mob.
00:17:22 Right around the time.
00:17:24 Her family.
00:17:26 Was wanting to go West and a lot of other Mormons wanted to go West and there was a lot of different people who wanted because there was no succession plan put in place for if he died, you know who would take over because he was, he was head.
00:17:41 So you had.
00:17:42 Brigham Young, who ended up being the that was the guy who the, I guess the majority of the Mormons went with to Utah.
00:17:49 But you had a.
00:17:50 Of these other little guys, right?
00:17:52 Who said? Oh, in fact, including one of whom was.
00:17:56 Joseph Smith's son, I think Joseph Smith junior.
00:18:00 But you had this guy named Colin Brewster.
00:18:04 His full name was James Colin Brewster, but he went to by Colin Brewster.
00:18:10 And Colin Brewster, his parents, had also joined the Mormon Church in the 19 or 1830s.
00:18:18 And at age 10.
00:18:20 He must have been a precocious youth. At age 10, he began telling his parents that he's also having visions.
00:18:28 Of the Angel Moroni, one of the angels, Joseph Smith, claimed that he had been talking to when he formed the Mormon Church.
00:18:35 So at age 10, he starts telling people, oh, I'm also having visitations from angels, and he starts translating like a sequel, basically to the Book of Mormon.
00:18:45 And by the time that Joseph Smith is killed in the the prison, and there's all this, you know, everything's kind of up in the air and, oh, who's gonna be the next, you know, head Mormon guy.
00:18:58 Colin Brewster says, well, I'm I should be the one that takes over because God told me in, you know, whatever.
00:19:04 Right.
00:19:06 And again some you know there there was a bunch of little splinter groups that split up at this time.
00:19:12 The vast majority went with Brigham Young, and The Pioneers went to Utah.
00:19:16 But you.
00:19:17 I mean, we've talked about a few of these guys.
00:19:19 Was one that went to.
00:19:21 Lake MI and and they tried to build a castle. There was another guy.
00:19:26 Well, I mean the Warren Jeffs stuff like in Colorado City with the the polygamy and stuff that was I think the the I.
00:19:33 That might have been like The Smiths.
00:19:35 Like the sun or something.
00:19:37 And then there was this guy who said not only did he, you know, write his own.
00:19:43 Book called the Words of righteousness to all men.
00:19:48 But he said that he was.
00:19:51 He was given directions from God that they were to travel to a land called Bouchan.
00:19:59 It was the the promised land. So in 1850.
00:20:04 He said that we're all going to go to basheran these Brewster.
00:20:07 They called themselves and it's in the Rio Grande Valley and God is selected.
00:20:13 That is the new gathering place for the Latter Day Saints, and so let's all get a wagon trail and we'll go down to.
00:20:22 To or Bashan or.
00:20:25 It's BASHAN.
00:20:29 Unfortunately, all of Oatman's family thought this sounded like a great idea.
00:20:35 Her family was quite large.
00:20:38 I think they had 7.
00:20:40 They either had seven kids or six kids and and either way, the the mother was very pregnant, like she was very pregnant.
00:20:49 So she was going to go on.
00:20:51 I mean this is this is a long distance to go from.
00:20:54 I'm gonna show you the map here in a second to go from Illinois.
00:20:58 On foot and by wagon.
00:21:02 All the way to California 'cause I think Bashan ended up being like somewhere in the South working valley. So we're talking like.
00:21:09 You know, over 1000 miles.
00:21:11 Well over 1000 miles by foot and by wagon, they decided to go embark on this trip.
00:21:19 Her family, which was.
00:21:21 Royce Oatman, his wife and who was very pregnant, and I and either six or seven kids.
00:21:27 Forget which.
00:21:30 So they start heading out there, as you might imagine, there's a lot of desolate areas. If you've ever been through America, especially through Arizona, New Mexico or even parts of you know.
00:21:45 Texas and and all throughout the West especially get, you know, depending what the weather's like.
00:21:51 It's rough.
00:21:52 It's really rough 'cause you can only, you know, carry so much food and water, and you can only depend so much on surviving on.
00:22:02 The food that you can get along the way you can, I guess do some trading, but there's not a whole lot of. I mean it's 1850, OK.
00:22:10 There's not a lot of people to trade.
00:22:14 And on top of all this, of course.
00:22:18 You have the wonderful Native Americans, the peaceful Native Americans.
00:22:23 Which many people, by the way, had no idea when the white men were first going West by land, it was easy to assume.
00:22:32 There were no people there.
00:22:35 'Cause there were no signs of civilization.
00:22:39 There were no roads.
00:22:40 There were no walls, no signs, no cities.
00:22:45 And so when you were to come across some of these tribes, it was kind of out of nowhere.
00:22:52 Because a lot of these tribes didn't they they were nomadic.
00:22:56 And even when they did build houses, I mean, I'll show you as I'll show you in a moment what exactly call them houses.
00:23:04 I mean, we're really talking about the, the, the most primitive people.
00:23:08 Didn't have a lot of.
00:23:10 Don't realize this Native Americans did not have horses.
00:23:15 Until Europeans brought horses.
00:23:17 They didn't have.
00:23:18 Obviously, we're talking about super primitive and so when you when you imagine like old Western movie Indians riding horses and shooting guns and stuff, they got all that from the European settlers.
00:23:33 Prior to encountering European settlers, they were basically really smart monkeys.
00:23:39 Let's just be honest. They were really smart monkeys with opposable thumbs.
00:23:44 But that's about.
00:23:45 Like there was no written language, there was no. As you'll see agriculture to speak of.
00:23:53 There was really no civic planning, no social norms or I mean when you don't have a written language, how do you even pass on traditions other than oral trad?
00:24:05 Which means whoever you know, every generation it gets rewritten.
00:24:10 So even if you have this wise man.
00:24:15 This philosopher member of your tribe, this high IQ member of your tribe, and he figures out all this shit.
00:24:23 Well, if no one, no one remembers it that he tells.
00:24:27 Or if they tell it inaccurately to the next generation, it's just gone.
00:24:32 It's just.
00:24:33 There's no buildings, there's no two-story.
00:24:36 There's no really one story buildings, aside from some ruins that we'll get into that in a moment.
00:24:43 That are.
00:24:45 Ancient and really unrelated to the population that lived there in 1850.
00:24:51 So as these pioneers are going across these, you know, vast deserts in these wastelands with no food and no water.
00:25:02 Lot of them are saying this is fucking crazy.
00:25:04 Is crazy.
00:25:05 We don't know where we're going.
00:25:07 We're following some kid that thinks he's like talking to God and he's taking us to some place called Bashan.
00:25:13 But he he doesn't seem to know where he's going.
00:25:17 You know there's other wagon trains going West to California.
00:25:22 Let's just go somewhere that we know exists for. Maybe that's a good idea.
00:25:28 So little by little, a lot of the people who decided to go with this guy, the Brewster rights, they, they kind of just peel off and go to start heading to either a A, an established Fort.
00:25:43 Or some kind of settlement or, you know, some place that they know there's gonna actually be people and not some weird mystery. Promised land of this.
00:25:53 Weirdo religious guy.
00:25:54 Is telling them to go to.
00:25:58 The.
00:25:59 Also split off.
00:26:01 From Brewster, apparently Royce Oatman was selected to be kind of like the captain.
00:26:09 To be in charge of the wagon train, and even he was just like fuck this guy, and when he left, he took a lot of the people with him.
00:26:18 They ended up in a place called Maricopa Wells. Maricopa wells.
00:26:24 Is a a photo of it.
00:26:26 From around that time period, it's this middle of fucking nowhere.
00:26:32 Well, I.
00:26:32 Had a well in the middle of fucking nowhere, Arizona.
00:26:38 It's kind of outside Phoenix or what is now.
00:26:41 Phoenix didn't exist back then, or to the extent that it did, it was, you know, it wasn't a city.
00:26:48 When they arrived to Maricopa Wells, this is to give an idea of this is the map I was talking about to give an idea of how far they had traveled.
00:26:58 Again this.
00:26:59 This is by.
00:27:00 A lot of guys are walking.
00:27:01 Not everyone's, like packed into the wagon, letting you know the beasts of burden do all the all the work.
00:27:09 They're walking alongside it because all their shit's in the wagon.
00:27:12 And even if you go by car right now from where they left to Arizona, well, or Maricopa wells, they it it would be 1500 miles, it would take 24 hours.
00:27:27 In a car, it would take about 7 hours to fly there, so it's a long fucking journey.
00:27:37 That's and that they can. You can see the the the.
00:27:42 Terrain there too.
00:27:43 I mean, they're going through the Rockies basically to get get to there and then they're in this vast fucking desert.
00:27:51 So they get there and a lot of at this point a lot of the the people that went with the Oatmans are saying.
00:28:00 We're done. You.
00:28:01 Know we're gonna.
00:28:02 We're not gonna keep going. You know, 'cause, they they wanted to keep going through to California. Take the southern route through California. The the Oatmans did, or at least Royce Oatman did.
00:28:15 And the rest of the families were like, well, that, you know, that sounds crazy.
00:28:20 We've heard also that there's a lot of hostile Indians.
00:28:23 Weird hostile Indians. I thought there were these, you know, one with nature. Peaceful people that were. No, not so much.
00:28:31 There were these Indians that the time they called them Apaches, they now call them Yavapai.
00:28:37 And I guess they're related to the Apache, but in a lot of the writing, some of which will will will have quotes of tonight, they'll refer to these people as the Apache.
00:28:48 But if you want to be ultra specific, it's the Avapi Indians that.
00:28:54 Are are we're talking about in this general area?
00:28:59 So there this is also Maricopa wells, where a lot of the other families are deciding to to not go to on to the next spot.
00:29:12 The old man's continue to travel.
00:29:16 This is a four days journey today in a vehicle to go from the Maricopa wells to the site of the incident that we're about to discuss.
00:29:32 It's it's about two hour drive in a car. So, but it's yeah, it's about 100 miles.
00:29:40 It's 100 miles.
00:29:42 And so that kind of a trip in a in a covered wagon took about four.
00:29:47 So Royce, his wife, his kids and, you know, his pregnant wife and his kids, they they stop at a place by the the Gila River.
00:29:58 To get some water.
00:30:00 When they start traveling up.
00:30:03 This incline onto a Mesa when they get to the top.
00:30:09 They are accosted by a group of Yavapai Indians, a group of Yavapai Indians walk up to them and say, hey man, you got any tobacco, you got any food?
00:30:25 At.
00:30:25 This point the Altmans didn't have a lot of supplies.
00:30:29 They had come all the way from Illinois. They didn't really.
00:30:32 Have the ability to resupply at Maricopa Wells.
00:30:36 But they also understood that this was not a request.
00:30:40 Was kind of a demand.
00:30:43 And so Royce Oatman began to get some tobacco and some.
00:30:48 Whatever he thought they could spare to give to the Yavapai Indians. At this point the Yavapai Indians, having never intended to actually.
00:30:58 Just ask and get some stuff when they could have everything.
00:31:04 Encircled the family.
00:31:06 And beat them to death with clubs.
00:31:11 They beat the father to death, the pregnant mother to death, and all of the children.
00:31:19 Olive Oatman, who at the time was about age 13.
00:31:26 And her little sister, who was about, I believe, 8 years old.
00:31:31 They almost beat her brother to death.
00:31:36 They thought they'd beat him to.
00:31:39 When they heard him groaning, they picked him up and threw him off the the Cliff of the Mesa.
00:31:47 And they then scalloped the family members of the family.
00:31:56 And then decided to start going through their supplies.
00:32:01 What they wanted.
00:32:03 And some of that and part of that included the Olive Oatman and her little sister.
00:32:10 And here is Olive Oatman, in her own words.
00:32:15 Describing this incident.
00:32:22 The attack I was so bewildered and taken by surprise by the suddenness of their movements and their deafening yells that it was some little time before I could realize the horrors of my situation. When I turned round, opened my eyes and collected my thoughts.
00:32:36 I saw my father, my own dear father struggling, bleeding and moaning in the most pitiful manner.
00:32:45 Lorenzo was lying with his face in the dust, the top of his head covered with blood and his ears and mouth bleeding profusely.
00:32:53 I looked around and saw my poor mother with her youngest child clasped in her arms and both of them still as if the work of death had already been completed.
00:33:02 A little distance on the opposite side of the wagon stood little Marianne, with her face covered with her hands, sobbing aloud, and a huge looking Indian standing over her. The rest were motionless, save a younger brother and my father all upon the ground, dead or dying.
00:33:19 At this sight, a thrill of icy coldness passed over me.
00:33:23 I thought I had been struck. My thoughts began to reel and became irregular and confused.
00:33:29 I fainted and sank to the earth and for a while I know not how long.
00:33:35 I was insensible when I recovered my thoughts. I could hardly realize where I was.
00:33:40 Though I remembered to have considered myself as having also been struck to the earth and thought I was probably dying.
00:33:48 I knew that all or nearly all of the family had been murdered.
00:33:52 Thus, bewildered, confused, half conscious and half insensible, I remained a short time.
00:33:59 I know not how long when suddenly I seemed awakened to the dreadful realities around me.
00:34:05 My little sister was standing by my side sobbing and crying, saying mother, oh, mother, Olive, mother and father are killed with all our poor brothers and sisters.
00:34:17 I could no longer look upon the scene.
00:34:20 Occasionally a low, piteous moan would come from someone of the family, as in a dying state.
00:34:26 I distinguished the groans of my poor mother and sprang wildly toward her.
00:34:30 But was held back by the merciless savage holding me in his cruel grasp.
00:34:34 And lifting a club over my head, threatening me in the most taunting, barbarous manner, I longed to have him put an end to my life.
00:34:42 Life oh. Thought I.
00:34:45 I know that my poor parents have been killed by these savages and I remain alive.
00:34:51 I asked them to kill me, pleaded with them to take my life, but all my pleas and prayers.
00:34:57 Only excited to laughter and taunts the two wretches to whose charge we had been committed after these cruel brutes had consummated their work of slaughter.
00:35:06 Which they did in a few moments.
00:35:08 They then commenced to plunder our wagon and the persons of the family whom they had killed.
00:35:14 They broke open the boxes with stones and clubs, plundering them of such of their contents as they could make serviceable to themselves.
00:35:22 They took off the wagon wheels or a part of them, tore the wagon covering off from its frame.
00:35:27 UN yoked the teams and detached them from the wagons and commenced to pack the little food with many articles of their plunder.
00:35:34 If preparatory to start on a long journey.
00:35:37 Coming to a feather bed, they seized it, tore it open, scattering its contents to the winds manifesting. Meanwhile, much wonder and surprise, as if in doubt, what certain articles of furniture and conveniences for the journey we had with us could be intended for.
00:35:53 We descended the hill not knowing their intentions concerning us, but under the expectation that they would probably take our lives by slow torture.
00:36:03 Ah yes, the peaceful Yavapai Indians. This is a artist depiction.
00:36:10 Early white man who encountered the Yavapai Indians. Look how.
00:36:15 Look how peaceful they look.
00:36:17 You know very wise.
00:36:20 Wise Yavapai?
00:36:23 Indians.
00:36:25 Yes, the Yadavi Indians with their great architecture.
00:36:29 See, this is the the fucking stupid thing.
00:36:31 Have you believe?
00:36:34 Right. They'll have you believe that these people here, this this is a Yavapai.
00:36:39 Is literally a Yavapai house.
00:36:41 It's just a bunch of fucking garbage piled in a in a in a pile.
00:36:46 It's it's.
00:36:46 It's like a pack rat nest.
00:36:50 It's a pack rat nest.
00:36:53 And they want you to believe.
00:36:56 That these people. People.
00:36:59 That lived in these pack rat nests.
00:37:03 Who are complete fucking savages, who had no written language? Also are the people that built these Cliff dwellings. Like if you go around in Arizona to like the different Cliff dwellings like on the reservations and stuff, they're like, Oh yes, our ancient.
00:37:20 Sacred sites?
00:37:22 Whether our ancestors didn't, your ancestors did not build that shit.
00:37:27 Your ancestors did not build.
00:37:29 Why aren't you still, if that's what they were building 1000 fucking years ago and you went from that to that. What? What happened exactly?
00:37:39 Not be let's not act like that's what.
00:37:41 Going on.
00:37:42 Whoever these people were, they're not these people.
00:37:45 It's basically this is what would happen if Whites go extinct in North America, and this turns into, like, some kind of fucking Jumanji type situation over here.
00:37:56 And then let's say a thousand years in the future, you know, like the the Hitlers UFOs come back from Antarctica and go to Concord, North America, and they start looking at like, the the big stadiums that all the.
00:38:12 The the that are all falling apart, the ruins of like the the Empire State Building.
00:38:16 Like, oh, get it.
00:38:18 How did these people build this?
00:38:20 These and the brown people living here, like those, are our sacred sites.
00:38:24 Those are our ancestors built that.
00:38:28 Like, that's basically the shit that's going on here.
00:38:30 You've got these fucking Indians saying like, Oh yeah, our ancestors built like the fuck they did.
00:38:37 The fuck they did, that's bullshit.
00:38:39 You fucking know it.
00:38:42 This is you.
00:38:44 You this did not build.
00:38:46 This is fucking you.
00:38:50 So anyway, they threw him off Lorenzo, the brother off the the top of the Mesa, and he runs off to try to get help. You know, having just barely survived by the time he encounters white people.
00:39:06 You know it's it's it's basically over the, the family's all dead and the two sisters are missing.
00:39:14 Umm.
00:39:16 The fate of the two sisters.
00:39:18 Well, they they should be fine.
00:39:20 They're in the company of these peaceful Yavapai Indians who just murder their entire family.
00:39:27 And I'm sure it's. I'm sure it was a great, you know, it's a culturally enriching experience for these white girls who who?
00:39:36 No business being there, right?
00:39:39 I'm sure they'll be treated the same way that we're treating the immigrants.
00:39:44 Coming into our country hours payback, right?
00:39:49 Let's.
00:39:49 Let's see what this this is from.
00:39:51 Own these.
00:39:52 These are her words.
00:39:55 How? What was the journey like?
00:39:59 With the Yavapai friends that she just made.
00:40:04 The most frightful scenes of butchery and suffering followed into every moment slumber. Like cattle. We were driven forth to another day's travel and they whipped Marianne and I into walking the roughest Rd. If Rd. be a proper term over which we had yet passed.
00:40:18 Twice during the day I gave up and told Mary I must consent to be murdered and left for.
00:40:24 I would not, with bleeding feet worn in places almost to the bone, and such aching limbs for bare headed and shoeless, the Indians, having taken off our shoes.
00:40:34 But this, they were not inclined to allow when I could not be driven, I was pushed and hauled along Stubbs rocks and gravel, strewn mountainsides, hedged up and embittered. The travel of the whole day that day is among the few days of my dreary stay among the SA.
00:40:51 Marked by the most pain and suffering ever endured, I have since learned that they hurried for fear of the whites, emigrant trains of whom were not unfrequently passing that way.
00:41:04 So they know that if the whites find out what they did, they're
00:41:08 And they scurry away like cockroaches. Or like Cavemen, really, dragging these girls with them.
00:41:17 They make them walk.
00:41:20 Hundreds of miles in bare feet, they take. They took the shoes of the girls 'cause. They thought it was funny, and they pressed the girls again.
00:41:29 Of them, like it says like like 8 years old.
00:41:32 Until the 8 year old, after having no food for four days and marching non-stop at a breakneck pace because they wanted to avoid being caught by white.
00:41:44 Wearing their feet down to basically stubs, you know, like almost literally down to the bone, the little girl passes out and it's only then that they pick up the little girl and start carrying her while making fun of the the white girls 'cause. They can't keep up the.
00:41:59 Time.
00:42:02 And I I don't.
00:42:04 I guess that you know they, they, they. They felt bad though, right?
00:42:07 Wanted to.
00:42:08 They wanted to give these kids, you know, all they. They're innocent in all this, right?
00:42:14 They're innocent in all this, just like the.
00:42:17 The dreamer kids, they get dragged across the border with their with their illegal immigrant parents.
00:42:22 Innocent all this, so I'm sure what's going to happen.
00:42:26 I'm sure it's gonna.
00:42:27 Is these Yavapai Indians are gonna take these white girls back to their village and then pay for their college?
00:42:36 They're gonna pay for their.
00:42:37 They're gonna give them free medical care for their wounds, and they're going to give them debit cards so they can go and buy food at the Yavapai market, and then they're gonna give them free tuition at the Yavapai College.
00:42:53 And then they'll give them jobs in the Yavapai.
00:42:57 Industries that are booming in Yavapai country, right?
00:43:05 That's, I'm sure that's what happened, right?
00:43:07 And they felt real.
00:43:08 It was all a big misunderstanding, you know.
00:43:13 If.
00:43:14 If only they had a better understanding of the white man, right?
00:43:17 Didn't feel threatened by the little girls.
00:43:21 Let's.
00:43:21 Let's see again, what did Olive Oatman think?
00:43:26 When she.
00:43:28 Was traveling with these Yavapai back to their home.
00:43:34 In the mountains.
00:43:36 We soon learned that our condition was that of unmitigated slavery, not to the adults merely, but also to the children.
00:43:44 Their whimpering, idiotic children of not half a dozen years very soon learned to drive us about with all the authority of an eastern Lord and these filthy creatures would go in quest of occasions, seemingly to gratify their love of command and any want of hurried attention to them.
00:43:59 Was visited upon us by punishment, either by whipping US or the withholding of our food.
00:44:05 Besides the adults of the tribe enjoyed the sport of seeing us, thus forced into submission to their children.
00:44:12 They invented modes and seemed to create necessities of Labor that they might gratify themselves by taxing us to the utmost, and even took unwarranted delight in whipping us on beyond our strength and all their requests and exactions were couched in the most insulting and taunting language and man.
00:44:29 As it then seemed and as they had the frankness soon to confess to fume their hate against the race.
00:44:35 Whom we belonged.
00:44:39 Oh, so they had a unending burning hatred of white men.
00:44:45 And they delighted in having, as she called them, their idiot children, order them around. They were slaves.
00:44:53 And they.
00:44:53 They made it very clear they were slaves and they delighted they.
00:44:57 In fact, they would come up with work that was unnecessary simply so they could order them to do things, and they thought it was the funniest shit in the world.
00:45:09 Having power over the white man.
00:45:12 They thought it was the the funniest shit in the world that they could order white people around to do whatever they fucking wanted.
00:45:25 Now The thing is, massacres were not uncommon.
00:45:30 This is not an isolated incident.
00:45:34 Again, there's lots of people that are trying to that try to rewrite this story and act as if, oh, it's exaggerated or whatever.
00:45:40 Not really. This kind of thing.
00:45:43 I looked in the newspaper archives for just Indian massacre and found result that the result after result that during this time period of.
00:45:55 Indian massacres, where you just have settlers going across the, you know, going to California, going to Oregon, going to Utah, going wherever. And it's just this little time period and you have story after story after story.
00:46:09 One later from.
00:46:10 The Pmss Columbia captain Dahl arrived Thursday night at 11:00.
00:46:16 2 1/2 days from Portland 0.
00:46:18 Indian massacre on the.
00:46:20 The Portland standard of the 23rd learns from Mr. Banton, a gentleman having just crossed the plains and who arrived in that city on last Tuesday week.
00:46:30 That a terrible Indian massacre.
00:46:33 Had been committed upon the immigrants to this season or of this season, he reports as follows.
00:46:39 About the middle of June, an immigrant train bound for California, consisting of 300 men, women and children were attacked the Devil's gate on the Sweetwater River, 6 miles from Independence Rock, by Cheyenne Sioux Indians, killing.
00:46:55 150 of the company and capturing their stock, provisions, clothing, etcetera.
00:47:00 The remainder of the party succeeded in reaching Salt Lake City through, though in starving condition, some of them having been 8 days without provisions. Among those who were killed were General Lane's brother and family.
00:47:13 This kind of thing happened all the time.
00:47:15 You have in fact you had lots of fur trappers and explorers, people who weren't even intending on, you know, settling the area.
00:47:23 Were just trying to map out the area or whatever who were in fact one guy who.
00:47:28 That was Jebediah Smith.
00:47:32 That guy's an absolute fucking chad.
00:47:34 We might have to do a stream on that guy fucking beat up.
00:47:37 Or he didn't beat up, but like he survived the grizzly bear attack.
00:47:41 The grizzly bear had his fucking head in.
00:47:43 His mouth and ripped part of his his like scalp off and so like he went the rest of his life, like combing his hair over the big like grizzly bear wound.
00:47:53 But you know, like hardcore fucking, you know, naturalist types that are just going around and then they get attacked by like 30 Indians.
00:48:02 And this is this is a common thing.
00:48:05 And this is not an exaggerated instance where you have, you know, a bunch of Indians especially.
00:48:11 The thing that people this is another big myth.
00:48:14 Another big myth is that the Indians are there, one with the with nature. They're one with the environment.
00:48:19 They're, they're.
00:48:20 They always they only use what's necessary, right?
00:48:23 So good about managing resources.
00:48:26 Every part of the Buffalo and this kind of bullshit, right?
00:48:30 Well, the truth is they sucked at managing resources and they were often fucking starving to.
00:48:35 Death. They were often fucking having, you know, massive.
00:48:40 They're often having lots of issues that come along with being essentially wild animals in a inhospitable environment.
00:48:50 Especially like places in in Arizona, like the Harcahola Mountains.
00:48:55 So this is the this is the reality that when you see these people crossing through with all these Gibbs, they've got all these goodies in these wagons.
00:49:06 You know you're going to go attack the fucking wagons. You, and especially when you got women that look like the fucking Yavapai women you're going to, you're going to rape the white women, you're going to steal their shit.
00:49:16 It's it's. It's a tale as all this time it's it's same old same old.
00:49:21 See the the bottom line is the the huge difference is and always will be.
00:49:28 White people have a civil, civilizing effect on brown people.
00:49:34 And never the other way around.
00:49:36 Never the other way around.
00:49:42 So anyway, what happens?
00:49:46 When should this is?
00:49:47 This is a photo of some Yavapai look at their awesome house they've got.
00:49:51 Look at all those.
00:49:52 Look, it's like sticks.
00:49:54 It sticks and they're closed.
00:49:56 Closed, by the way.
00:49:58 They didn't dress like this prior to encounter, and obviously they didn't have rifles either prior to encountering.
00:50:05 White man.
00:50:05 They never learn how to make fabric.
00:50:08 They would have, you know, like, like basically like leaves and shit covering their dicks. And like that was it.
00:50:15 But once they encountered white men, they could trade for like blankets and canvas and stuff like that.
00:50:21 And so you that's that's that's that's why these guys look like they're wearing clothes 'cause they didn't make any of those clothes.
00:50:28 And by the way, same goes for like a lot of these tribes in this area.
00:50:34 So all about men and her sister, Mary Ann.
00:50:39 What do they observe upon arriving at the Yavapai camp?
00:50:44 They are human, but live like brutes. They seem totally destitute of all those noble and generous traits of life which distinguish and honor civilized people.
00:50:55 They are content to pass their days without ambition, save of war and conquest.
00:51:01 They live the mere creatures of passion, blind and callous to all those ennobling aims and purposes that are the true and pleasing inspiration of rational existence.
00:51:12 Rapine and lust prey upon them at home, and war is fast wasting them abroad in their social state. The more they are studied, the more do they become. An object of disgust and loathing.
00:51:24 There was no beauty, no loveliness.
00:51:27 No attractions in the country possessed by these unlovely creatures to make it pleasant.
00:51:31 Most of them are sunk in, an ignorance that forbids any aspiration or ambition to reach or fire their natures.
00:51:38 An ignorance that knows no higher mode of life than theirs, and that looks with jealousy upon every nation and people save the burrowing tribes that skulk and crawl among these mountains and ravines.
00:51:52 How about that?
00:51:57 How about that?
00:52:01 They are people that look upon the everyone around them with jealousy.
00:52:07 Because they have achieved things that they would never be able to achieve.
00:52:15 And so they hate them.
00:52:20 And so they hate them.
00:52:24 Here's a quote from the author by the.
00:52:26 The things that I'm playing with that the, the, the girl reading those are all direct quote this is not the author's interpretation.
00:52:33 Are all quotes from Olive Oatman herself this, however.
00:52:39 Is a quote from the author of the book the Compiled Everything.
00:52:44 How strange the life of these savages of their past history. How little is known.
00:52:51 This much we do know.
00:52:54 There are large tracts of country now occupied by large and numerous tribes of the red race living in all the filth and degradation of an unmitigated, unmitigated Heathenism, and without any settled system of laws.
00:53:11 Or social regulations.
00:53:18 They were literally really smart monkeys.
00:53:22 And like monkeys, sure, there is some kind of social hierarchy.
00:53:27 There's some kind of power structure.
00:53:29 There is some kind of socialization that's going on.
00:53:32 Is.
00:53:33 I mean you you could.
00:53:34 I mean, you could depend on how define.
00:53:38 You could sort of say that there was a. There's a form of, you know, primitive though it might be.
00:53:45 Some sort of civilization?
00:53:50 And really you.
00:53:52 There's not a huge contrast.
00:53:55 Aside from some minor technological differences.
00:54:00 Between these Yavapais and literal monkeys.
00:54:06 So the yavapais ramapunja sticks together and and call it a house.
00:54:14 Am I supposed to be impressed?
00:54:18 The Yavapais are hunter gatherers.
00:54:24 There, there's.
00:54:25 Like, again, there's almost no agriculture going on.
00:54:29 Which is why they're they're always starving to death, that they chose to live in, like, you know, one of the shittiest parts of America.
00:54:37 After.
00:54:39 Like in terms of being able to to survive.
00:54:48 And here they.
00:54:49 We're we're supposed to compare this.
00:54:53 We're supposed to compare this with what's happening to us now.
00:54:58 We're supposed to act as if there's any comparison whatsoever that can be made.
00:55:10 She continues about the Apaches.
00:55:12 She calls them Apaches.
00:55:14 Yavapai again.
00:55:15 It's used interchangeable or interchangeably.
00:55:18 These Apaches were without any settled habits of industry.
00:55:22 They tilled? Not.
00:55:23 They ate worms, grasshoppers and reptiles for whole days when scarcely a morsel for another meal was in the camp.
00:55:31 Would those stout, robust, lazy lumps of a degraded humanity lounge in the sun, or by the gurgling spring?
00:55:38 At noon in the shade or on the shelves of the mountains surrounding utterly reckless of their situation, or of the doom their idleness might bring upon the whole tribe.
00:55:49 Basically describing 0 impulse control.
00:55:53 No ability to look into the future.
00:55:56 No ability to look into the future and plan.
00:55:58 No ability to wonder if there if the consequences of your actions might impact others.
00:56:07 Very little sympathy.
00:56:14 Here's another quote from Olive.
00:56:18 Quote the Indians would congregate on evenings when one of them would entertain the company with a narration of the adventures of his youthful days. On one of these occasions, an old Indian spoke.
00:56:31 As follows.
00:56:33 I had heard often of the white people I long to see one. I was told by my father one day that I might, with some of the warriors of the tribe, go on a hunt to the north and also that we would probably find some white people.
00:56:50 If so, that we must kill them and bring in their scalps with any white captive girls we could find.
00:56:59 We had so many counting his fingers up to three.
00:57:04 And and.
00:57:06 And so many 48 arrows each.
00:57:12 So they were bred to hate white people, to kill them on site, to take their scalps and look, not outlook.
00:57:21 Be.
00:57:21 Obviously, not every fucking tribe was like this, but we're we live in an environment where we're supposed to act like no tribe was like this.
00:57:29 When the Yavapai were 100% like this and not they were not unique in this hatred of the white people, their violent tendencies and the danger they pose to.
00:57:41 Everyone around them.
00:57:46 In this idea that the white people brought slavery to North America.
00:57:52 Is ridiculous.
00:57:54 Because not only would the Yavapai take white slave girls.
00:58:01 Lots of tribes took slaves from other tribes prior to white people even showing up.
00:58:07 The concept of slavery was not a foreign concept.
00:58:19 In fact, it was such a normal concept.
00:58:25 That one of the other tribes that they did, they did trade with was called the Mojave Tribe.
00:58:34 Now the Mojave Tribe saw these girls and they wanted.
00:58:40 They wanted the white slave girls and there's much made about this in the revisionist versions tellings of this story, where they try to make it sound like the the nice peaceful mojave's came and and they felt bad for the treatment that they were receiving under the the.
00:58:59 Of the.
00:59:00 Yavapai Indians. And so they they really wanted to help them out and and and rescue them from the Yavapai.
00:59:10 But they didn't rescue them from the Yavapai, they bought them.
00:59:15 As their slaves.
00:59:18 From the avapi because the Mahave also understood the concept of slavery, they had slaves.
00:59:26 They wanted two more.
00:59:29 2 little white girls that the Yavapai had.
00:59:32 And so they worked out a deal for the price of two horses.
00:59:38 Some vegetables, some beads and some blankets.
00:59:42 They purchased.
00:59:44 2 white girl slaves from the avapime.
00:59:52 And they they want to gloss over this fact that in fact, it's kind of funny. When I I was just doing.
00:59:58 Search. I knew that they they were purchased and I'd read like what it was and I I couldn't remember what it was. So I went to ChatGPT, which lies all the time. Never rely on it.
01:00:07 100% ever.
01:00:09 But I just was like, oh, what was?
01:00:10 Asked chantry.
01:00:11 Like what was the price of the Mojave?
01:00:14 You know, paid for all of Oatman and and Marianne Oatman from the the Yavapai.
01:00:21 And ChatGPT did this like 5 paragraph answer without telling me what they paid.
01:00:28 Basically saying, well, it wasn't really like they paid for them, they they traded for them.
01:00:33 Wasn't really like they were buying.
01:00:35 It was like, you know, and and then a lot of people, they say that mojave's were actually they were kind of nicer to the girls.
01:00:43 Like it was like it was paragraphs of them. If it not answering the question, I had to go back and find it in the book because it wouldn't fucking just tell me that it was two horses, some vegetables, beads and blankets.
01:00:55 And there's YouTube video after YouTube video after YouTube video trying to make the same. Sorry fucking excuses like, Oh no, the chief's wife felt really bad when she found out that they had these white girls.
01:01:07 Were.
01:01:08 So she, you know, she said, oh, we should get them as our slaves.
01:01:11 Would be nicer masters.
01:01:14 Which, even if that's the case, slavery was still.
01:01:18 Party equation it was.
01:01:20 Let's free these white girls and and and give them back to the white people.
01:01:25 In fact, there may be there's a reward, right?
01:01:27 We're we're the Mojave Indians. We have interactions with the white people from time to time.
01:01:32 We know where there they have settlements.
01:01:35 We.
01:01:35 I mean, if this is the case, right?
01:01:37 We have, oh, the, the bleeding heart.
01:01:39 Mahavez they felt so bad that the yavapai's were mistreating these white girls, and they just wondered what was best for them. Why wouldn't they?
01:01:48 Say purchase them.
01:01:50 Purchase their freedom instead of purchase them as slaves.
01:01:58 And if you know anything about the early writings of the Mojave Indians.
01:02:03 Well, it it's easy to deduce why they would want 2 white girls.
01:02:10 Because the mojave's were like hedonistic fucks.
01:02:14 Like they were like in the open because again, when when your house is like a pile of sticks, everyone can see you fucking.
01:02:22 And when you don't have anything to do all day because you're not exactly the most industrious people as she has over and over reiterated to the extent where you know, as you'll see, to starvation.
01:02:37 They just fuck all day.
01:02:41 And when your women look like Yavapai women or Mojave women, well, let's, let's buy these white.
01:02:51 So and the other thing I leave.
01:02:53 These people that like to claim that the Mojave rescue them.
01:02:58 Yeah. Well, if they did.
01:03:01 That. Why'd they make them walk on foot for 10?
01:03:04 350 miles and then whip them when they slowed down.
01:03:10 And make fun of them.
01:03:11 Which is exactly what all of Oatman recounts.
01:03:21 And what did she find when she arrived?
01:03:24 Well, again, olive Ottman, it will also admit.
01:03:26 They they weren't as as fucking.
01:03:31 Sadistic as the Yavapai Indians.
01:03:36 They weren't just basically torturing us for for fun like the Yavapai Indians were.
01:03:48 But they were a backward, primitive, superstitious people celebrating.
01:03:56 Not the the freeing of two people that they, they they were handing their freedom over to.
01:04:02 They were celebrating the acquisition of white slaves.
01:04:08 Their conduct during that night of wild excitement was very different from that by which our coming among the Apaches was celebrated. That was one of selfish, ironhearted friends glutting over a murderous, barbarous deed of death and plunder.
01:04:23 This was that of a company of indolent, superstitious and lazy heathen, adopting the only method which their darkness and ignorance would allow to signify their joy over the return of Kindred, and the delighted purchase of two foreign captives. They placed us out upon the green.
01:04:39 And in the light of a large, brisk fire, and kept up their dancing, singing, jumping and shouting until near the break of day.
01:04:48 Sorry, they're whooping and hollering and celebrating. The acquisition of the white Girls that they have brought into the tribe.
01:04:56 They immediately, even though the illustrations don't necessarily show this for obvious reasons. In the book they describe that the one of the first things they do is they RIP the clothes off of the white girls and force them to wear what the Mojave Girls wear, which is like.
01:05:11 Grass skirt.
01:05:12 And like no top, just a grass skirt.
01:05:16 Which is exactly what they would be wearing.
01:05:18 For the rest of the time that they were with the Mahave Indians.
01:05:25 Mojave Indians were.
01:05:29 To give you like some context of like location, it was like, well 350 miles.
01:05:37 Northwest, where the the Yavapai Indians were. You know, so basically think.
01:05:44 Of the Mojave Desert. You know in by California like the.
01:05:48 The Western southwestern part of California, bordering Arizona and.
01:05:54 Nevada.
01:05:58 So they they show up.
01:06:02 And while they they do find them to be less violent.
01:06:05 They find them to be really stupid and wasteful.
01:06:09 And which is ultimately gonna become a huge problem for the girls and well, and for the Mojave.
01:06:17 Here's again, this is the author, not not Olive.
01:06:22 Here's a quote from the author discussing this quote every day brought to their ears.
01:06:28 Casually dropped, showing their spite and hate to the white race.
01:06:33 They.
01:06:33 Would question their captives closely seeking the draw from them any discontent they might feel in their present condition.
01:06:41 They taunted them in a less ferocious manner than the Apaches, talking about the Yavapai.
01:06:47 But with every evidence of an equal hate about the good for nothing whites.
01:06:55 But they understood that these good for nothing whites had a better understanding of agriculture, that they were more successful, that they were, by most measures, a superior people.
01:07:09 And so while they like to talk shit to them and make fun of them for being white all.
01:07:13 Time they were also kind of.
01:07:17 Embarrassingly curious about how the white man was able to produce so much more when it came to agriculture.
01:07:27 Or even just, you know, in terms of domesticated animals.
01:07:32 How they were able to have such nice stuff compared to the mojave's?
01:07:38 So they they didn't understand that, you know, they wanted the girls to try to explain, you know, which is weird, right.
01:07:45 The Indians were supposed to be the masters of sustainability.
01:07:49 They're the masters of being one with nature and understanding all the seasons and you know, they're these like fucking in tune with the earth.
01:07:56 You know mother fuckers.
01:07:59 And yet, when it came to how they grew plants, not only did they never plant enough, because, as olive Oatman puts it, they were too lazy, that they scarcely planted enough like they planted like 1/5 of what they actually needed.
01:08:17 But they also didn't understand watering crops or irrigation.
01:08:22 Excuse.
01:08:22 Or anything like that.
01:08:24 And the only time they actually had any kind of.
01:08:32 Production of of of, of the Crops they planted was when the river would flood and overflow.
01:08:41 And they thought that that was happening because they were praying to their gods for it to happen.
01:08:48 So they would just plant.
01:08:50 Not enough seeds, even in the area around the river. And then pray that the river would overflow magically.
01:08:59 And water the crops and make them grow.
01:09:01 And if they didn't, then they didn't.
01:09:06 Like that was there.
01:09:08 And they were asking them, like, oh, hey, here's here's again, this is Mojave.
01:09:15 Kid and maybe.
01:09:17 There again, they also didn't wear clothes until they encountered white people.
01:09:22 So a lot of these photos are the either late 1800s, early 1900s.
01:09:30 Once they'd encountered white people and traded for clothes because they just, they were saying that, you know, they were the women wore dress skirts.
01:09:36 Like that? Was it grass skirt?
01:09:38 Boom. Done.
01:09:39 You know what? Wardrobe over.
01:09:42 And the men essentially same thing it was.
01:09:44 It was like, you know, like a loincloth version of a of a grass skirt. And like that was it.
01:09:49 That was it.
01:09:50 That's all they wore, you know, literally like a tiny step up the evolutionary ladder.
01:09:58 Like a tight like like two or three rungs.
01:10:01 Up from wild animals.
01:10:05 You know they.
01:10:05 They had the the opposable thumbs.
01:10:08 Man, the opposable thumbs so they can like play with tools to some extent. You know, kill things with sharp sticks.
01:10:17 And muck around in the dirt with seeds and but that was it.
01:10:24 So they would ask the girls like you know how you guys do it.
01:10:27 Do you make? I don't understand.
01:10:29 And they would try to explain.
01:10:31 We found the Mojave is accustomed to the tillage of the soil to a limited extent and in a peculiar way they had but a few notions and these were crude about agriculture.
01:10:42 They were utterly without skill or art in any useful calling.
01:10:46 When we first arrived among them, the wheat sown the previous fall had come up and looked green and thrifty.
01:10:53 And yet it was not sufficient to maintain 1/5 of their population.
01:10:58 They spent more time in raising 20 Spears of wheat from 1 Hill.
01:11:02 Than was necessary to have cultivated one acre.
01:11:04 With the improvements, they might and should have learned in the method of doing it.
01:11:09 It was a season of great rejoicing when the Colorado River overflowed, as it was only when it overflows that they could rely upon their soil for a crop.
01:11:18 They were very anxious to know how breaking up of the soil would make grain grow, of what use it was.
01:11:25 We told them of milking the cows and how our white people mowed the grass and fattened cattle and many other things. I frequently told them how grain and cattle and fowls would abound if such good land was under the control of the whites.
01:11:39 This would sometimes kindle their wrath and taunts, and again at other times their curiosity.
01:11:46 One day, several of them were gathered and questioning about our former homes and the white nation and the way by which a living was made, et cetera. I told them of ploughing the soil. They then wanted to see the figure of a.
01:11:59 I accordingly with sticks and.
01:12:01 In the sand.
01:12:02 Made as good a plow as a girl of 15 would be expected, perhaps to make out of such material drew the oxen and hitched them to my plow and told them how it would break the soil.
01:12:12 This feasted their curiosity a while, but ended in a volley of scorn and mockery to me and the race of whites.
01:12:18 And a general outburst of indignant taunts about their meanness.
01:12:22 I told them of the abundance that rewards white labour while they had so little.
01:12:28 So she tried to teach them.
01:12:31 This is a a 15 year old white girl who knows more about agriculture than these ancient people who have been living off the land for eons.
01:12:42 She tries to.
01:12:43 Hey, you know this is how you can make a plow.
01:12:47 This is, you know, I'll, I'll try to like I'm a 15 year old pioneer.
01:12:51 I'm kind of limited in how I, you know, I don't understand all the mechanics of it, but I've seen one, so I'll try to like show you what it looks like.
01:12:59 And they would laugh at her or get mad.
01:13:05 They get mad because they wouldn't understand it.
01:13:13 Or they'd make fun of her because, oh, that's just silly white people.
01:13:17 Retarded.
01:13:19 We're just gonna get seeds and just haphazardly throw them around the Colorado River and hope that it it floods when we pray to Magglio or whatever the fuck.
01:13:34 So it's funny, 'cause, as much as they make.
01:13:36 Of whites.
01:13:41 I don't understand the basics of agriculture.
01:13:44 They don't know where whites even come.
01:13:46 They don't even know that there's an ocean that exists.
01:13:49 They had to ask her, like, oh, what?
01:13:51 Is.
01:13:52 We heard there's a thing called an ocean and you guys come from the other side of it.
01:13:56 And and what is that all?
01:13:57 And so she tries to explain to these people this is again, this is what they this is actual photos of Mojave Indians.
01:14:07 But again, this is probably.
01:14:10 Probably early 1900s.
01:14:12 Maybe late 1800s, but after they've already encountered white people, obviously.
01:14:17 Or, you know, 'cause, you know, cameras.
01:14:23 I.
01:14:24 I don't think that that camera was manufactured in the the Navajo Nation.
01:14:30 Bad as they are, they are very curious to know the secret of the success and increase of the whites.
01:14:35 They would gather about us frequently in large numbers and ply their curious questions with eagerness and seeming interest, asking how many of the white folks there were, how far the big ocean extended, and on being told of the two main oceans. They asked if the whites possessed the.
01:14:50 Big World on the east of the Atlantic.
01:14:53 If there were any Indians there, they wanted to know how women were treated and if a man was allowed more than one.
01:14:59 Inquired particularly how and by what means a subsistence was gained by us in this latter question, we could discern an interest that did not Insp.
01:15:09 Any of other queries?
01:15:11 We tried to tell them of the knowledge the whites possessed of the well founded belief they had.
01:15:17 That the stars above us were peopled by human beings, and of the fact that the distance to these far off worlds had been measured by the whites. They wished to know if any of us had been there.
01:15:28 This they asked in a taunting manner, exhibiting in irony and sarcasm.
01:15:33 Their incredulity as to the statement over which they made much sport and ridicule.
01:15:40 I found the months and years in which I had been kept in school, not altogether useless in answering their questions. I told them that the earth turned round every 24 hours and also of its travelling about the sun every year.
01:15:53 They would tell us, however.
01:15:55 That an evil spirit reigned among the whites and that he was leading them on to destruction.
01:16:01 They seemed sincere in their belief that there were scarcely any of the whites that could be trusted, but that they had evil assistance which made them great.
01:16:10 And powerful.
01:16:11 Particularly, they would question us as to the number of the Americanos this term.
01:16:17 Obtained among the Mexicans.
01:16:19 When we told them of the number of the whites and of their rapid increase, they were apparently incredulous.
01:16:26 And some of them would become angry and accuse us of lying and wishing to make them believe a lie.
01:16:33 So they were. They were literal flat Earthers.
01:16:38 They were. The Mahavir were literal flat Earthers.
01:16:42 And they would react exactly like flat Earthers when she would try to explain like, no, no, no, it's it's it's a globe. You see, it's, you know, rotates every 24 hours and it goes around.
01:16:52 Like, no, it doesn't.
01:16:55 No it doesn't.
01:16:57 My personal incredulity says it does it, and so it doesn't. You or full of tricks. It's all trickery.
01:17:07 Oh, it's all true.
01:17:08 Is funny.
01:17:09 Because actually, I've heard flat Earthers say that white people thought that the earth was flat until like the 1920.
01:17:15 Disney or something?
01:17:16 Some stupid shit like NASA and then Disney and then like, you know, like the the Satanist or no, this is a pioneer fucking girl that's.
01:17:24 15 years old and kidnapped and raped repeatedly by fucking Indians.
01:17:28 And she knows more about the the nature of the universe than your fucking dumb ass with access to the Internet, you stupid fuck.
01:17:35 And so. But the Mojave. Imagine that you're you've been kidnapped by a bunch of fucking.
01:17:42 Brown, Brown, Earther Brown. Earthers actually.
01:17:47 Brown, Brown, Earther, Flat Earthers, and when she tries to help and she tries to explain. Sounds like bullshit. That's fake.
01:17:58 That's totally.
01:18:00 You're that's you're a devil.
01:18:02 You're a.
01:18:03 You're trying to trick us.
01:18:05 With your NASA, your NASA trickery.
01:18:09 I bet you worked for NASA.
01:18:14 Yet again, proof that if you're a flat Earther.
01:18:17 You're not white.
01:18:20 You're not white.
01:18:21 But again, they had a lot of contempt for white people.
01:18:24 They couldn't understand it because that's like I said, their mind worked the same way that that Black Earthers did anything.
01:18:31 Couldn't wrap their head around.
01:18:33 Had to be a lie.
01:18:34 Had to be a lie.
01:18:35 Here's a quote from the author.
01:18:38 Quote with all their boasting and professed contempt for whites, and with all their bright traditions and prophecies according to which their day of triumph and power is near at hand. Yet they are not without.
01:18:52 Premonitions of a sad and fatal destiny.
01:18:55 They are generally dejected and cast down the tone of their everyday life, as well as sometimes actual sayings indicate a pressing fear and a harassing foreboding.
01:19:08 As they knew their days remembered.
01:19:12 Deep down, they knew.
01:19:14 Were wrong.
01:19:16 Deep down, they knew they couldn't.
01:19:18 Could scoff and.
01:19:19 And that look, this is probably why they wanted those white slaves, so they could exactly do that. They could get all that that frustration out by ordering them around, making fun of the white.
01:19:32 Girls and pretending like that this wasn't happening.
01:19:36 That this, that what they were saying was just like crazy talk.
01:19:41 And it's funny, because even with all these these writings of of Olive Oatman, again, there are people today still trying to follow that narrative.
01:19:53 Narrative that the mojave's were were putting forward.
01:19:57 That the the white people were evil and up to no good.
01:20:00 There was the.
01:20:01 They were peaceful and and happy.
01:20:05 And these revisionists will come through with, you know, talking about lies about, you know, they never have proof of it, by the way.
01:20:12 Always like. Well, clearly she's lying.
01:20:15 She's lying.
01:20:17 She's just lying.
01:20:19 And you look for evidence 'cause. I tried to find evidence.
01:20:23 I tried to find evidence because I found a lot of people saying that, oh, this was an exaggerated whatever, OK?
01:20:28 What's the evidence? Is, is, is, it's exaggerated and there never is any evidence.
01:20:34 Just well, it sounds exaggerated.
01:20:36 So you're basically like the Mojave Indians. That sounds crazy.
01:20:41 I can't believe that.
01:20:43 One of the things they will say is they'll say, well, she could have escaped.
01:20:49 Why didn't she try to?
01:20:51 You.
01:20:52 Know glossing over the the the fact that she's a 15 year old girl with her 9 year old little sister who's dying by the way she has been abused.
01:21:01 Know she's.
01:21:02 You know, since the Yavapai.
01:21:04 Had to walk hundreds and hundreds of miles.
01:21:09 After already making the long trip just to get to Arizona with her family.
01:21:14 Beat and abused, repeatedly raped her little sister.
01:21:18 And then they say, well, why is it that she never she never left.
01:21:23 Because where was she going to fucking go?
01:21:26 They had.
01:21:26 They had to walk 350 fucking miles just to get to this little Indian encampment from the Yavapai ones.
01:21:31 She doesn't know where the fuck she is.
01:21:34 She's over the phone.
01:21:36 Where the fuck I was.
01:21:38 They have fucking GPS.
01:21:39 What's she supposed to do?
01:21:44 And they'll say, well, what about when the surveyors 'cause? There was a white surveyor or a group of white surveyors that went out there and spent a week with the Mojave's.
01:21:56 You can see the the grass skirts the the women are wearing.
01:21:59 And this is what they in fact, this is closer to what they probably looked like at the time that.
01:22:06 The the girls were with the Mojave's, where they're literally just wearing grass skirts.
01:22:10 Women are wearing grass.
01:22:12 The men are wearing, I guess, style.
01:22:14 Basically a grass skirt.
01:22:16 Slightly different in shape.
01:22:19 And they'll say, well, there was these white people that went and they stayed there a week. Why didn't they say anything?
01:22:25 Well, these white surveyors also never saw any white people while they were there.
01:22:31 They never saw any white people, so most likely the Mojave, who often often say they're afraid that the white people are going to find out they have white girls.
01:22:42 They probably hid them for a week and in fact, all of Oatman said that at at times they would. They would get, they would make it die out of the bark of Mesquite trees and try to make their skin.
01:22:57 And their hair look dark.
01:22:59 So they would blend in with the tribe.
01:23:02 And more believably, in case someone did see them.
01:23:07 So their big evidence is some white people staying with the mojave's for the week and didn't see any white.
01:23:12 And so clearly all of Oatman and her little sister were didn't want to be found, didn't want to be found.
01:23:22 They'll also point out, you know, the the most striking feature when you talk about Olive Oatman, the tattoos on her face.
01:23:31 They'll say well.
01:23:33 You know, they gave her a face tattoo, so.
01:23:35 She wanted to be.
01:23:37 Or else, why would she have this face tattoo?
01:23:41 Right. They wouldn't just give her a face tattoo unless she, unless she wanted a face tattoo.
01:23:50 Right. I mean face tattoo.
01:23:54 They'll say, look, I mean, look, here's here's look at the beautiful Mojave women. This is a beautiful Mojave woman.
01:24:01 They'll say look at the look at the beautiful Mojave women.
01:24:05 They get face tattoos.
01:24:07 She got a face tattoo so clearly and.
01:24:10 Even have the balls to use this word, she assimilated.
01:24:17 Like a good immigrant, she came to the Mojave and assimilated.
01:24:25 Right, because.
01:24:27 Right.
01:24:31 Assimilation.
01:24:35 Well, that's weird, because all of Oatman actually addresses that.
01:24:40 One day the Chiefs wife bade us go out upon the yard and told us that the physicians were going to put marks on our faces.
01:24:47 It was with much difficulty that we could at first understand what was their design.
01:24:52 We soon, however, by the motions accompanying the commands of the wife of the chief.
01:24:57 Came to understand that they were going to tattoo our faces.
01:25:01 I ventured to plead with them for a few moments that they would not put those ugly marks upon our faces, but it was in vain to all our expostulations they only replied in substance that they knew why we objected to it, that we expected to return to the.
01:25:17 And we would be ashamed of it then, but that it was their resolution. We should never return. And that, as we belong to them, we should wear their kiichuk tattoo.
01:25:27 They said further that if we should get away and they should find us among other tribes, or if some other tribes should steal us, they would by this means know us.
01:25:37 They then pricked the skin in small regular rows on our chins, with a very sharp stick.
01:25:41 Until they bled freely.
01:25:43 They then dipped these same sticks in the juice of a certain weed that grew on the banks of the river and then in the powder of a bluestone that was to be found in low water and pricked this fine powder into these lacerated parts of the face.
01:25:56 They told us this could never be taken from the face and that they had given us a different mark from the one worn by their own females, as we saw.
01:26:05 But the same with which they marked all their own captives and that they could claim us in whatever tribe they might find us.
01:26:12 Oh, so in other words, basically.
01:26:17 They tattooed her face because she maybe for along the same lines of why they tattooed the face of their women 'cause she was property.
01:26:25 Not only wish you property, they thought that if they tattooed her face, she'd be too ashamed to go see be seen by white people.
01:26:32 Because, believe it or not, she is, at least historically known as the first white woman in North America to ever have a tattoo.
01:26:41 So it's it wasn't exactly a a a socially acceptable thing. Back in in 1850 something.
01:26:49 To have a face tattoo as a woman.
01:26:53 It was not a common thing in 1850 to.
01:26:57 I mean, she was literally the only white woman on the continent of North America to have a tattoo.
01:27:03 It's on her fucking face.
01:27:04 And when they tattooed her sister.
01:27:06 So not not one of two white women, right?
01:27:10 But also they point out that.
01:27:14 It's in case she did get away.
01:27:17 And another tribe encountered her.
01:27:19 They would.
01:27:19 Oh well, she's belongs to the Mojave.
01:27:24 So we need to go get her back to the Mojave. It's a brand.
01:27:30 It's a fucking brand.
01:27:35 And yet you have these Indian apologists, many of whom are of obviously descended of these people.
01:27:43 Who try to make it sound like oh, no, that shows that she was, you know, she was assimilated to the tribe.
01:27:50 That's.
01:27:50 Because if she was assimilated to the tribe, why did they call her spanza?
01:28:00 You know, it's funny because the name spanza, according to Michael Sosy, who was he's dead now, but he was the former director of the Colorado Indian Museum who was one of these people trying to claim.
01:28:16 Oh, this story's not.
01:28:17 All made-up.
01:28:18 Clearly, she liked being there, and one of his reasons for knowing this as a Mojave Indian was that they called her spanza not just the tattoo, but.
01:28:31 Spans and you know what spanza means? Rotting vagina.
01:28:38 Or wounded vagina.
01:28:44 Which means to him that she was sexually active.
01:28:50 For them to give her that name.
01:28:54 Replay.
01:28:54 Sounds like she's assimilating, right?
01:28:56 They love this.
01:28:57 That they're. Hey, look, here comes rotting vagina.
01:29:01 She's one of the Bros.
01:29:03 Vagina. Wounded vagina.
01:29:11 That's how I know she's assimilated to the culture and that everyone thinks that she's one of us, as we call her rotting vagina. Wounded vagina.
01:29:22 In fact, Michael Sossi tried to imply that, oh, it probably meant that she was.
01:29:27 A whore.
01:29:31 She was probably a whore.
01:29:39 Maybe. Maybe you mean sex slave?
01:29:43 Is that maybe a more accurate way of putting it?
01:29:45 You stupid fuck monkey.
01:29:54 In fact, he went further.
01:29:55 You know.
01:29:56 It might even mean.
01:29:59 She did not live up to the grooming and hygiene standards of the Mojave Indians.
01:30:06 I'm not fucking shitting you.
01:30:18 So clearly she's.
01:30:19 She's making it all up because they they tattooed her face and called her wounded vagina.
01:30:28 Another story they like to gloss over and act as if it didn't happen.
01:30:34 Is she talks about one of the slaves.
01:30:36 This was not a white.
01:30:38 It was an Indian slave female slave that that did escape or tried to.
01:30:46 And what happened to this slave?
01:30:50 When she went out that night, she plunged immediately into the river to prevent them from tracking her.
01:30:55 She swam several miles that night and then hid herself in a Willow wood, thinking that they would be in close pursuit.
01:31:02 She resolved to remain there until they should give up hunting for her.
01:31:05 Here she remained nearly two days, and her pursuers were very near her. Several times she then started.
01:31:12 And swam where the river was, not too rapid and shallow when she would out and bound over the rocks. In this way, travelling only in the night she had gone near 130 miles.
01:31:23 She was, as she supposed, safely hid in a cave, waiting the return of night when the Yuma found her. A noisy meeting was called, and they spent the night in one of their victory dances.
01:31:35 They would dance around her, shout in her ears.
01:31:38 Spit in her face and show their threats of a murderous design.
01:31:43 The next morning, a post was firmly placed in the ground and about 8 feet from the ground a crossbeam was.
01:31:50 They then drove large rough wooden spikes through the palms of her hands, and by these they lifted her to the cross and drove the spikes into the soft wood of the be.
01:32:00 Extending her hands as far as they could, they then with pieces of bark stuck with thorns.
01:32:06 Tied her head firmly back to the upright post.
01:32:09 Drove spikes through her ankles and for a time, left her in this condition.
01:32:14 They then commenced running round her in regular circles, hallucing, stamping and taunting like so many demons in the most wild and frenzied manner.
01:32:24 After a little while, several of them supplied themselves with bows and arrows, and at every circlet would hurl one of these poisoned instruments of death into her quivering flesh.
01:32:35 Occasionally she would cry aloud, and in the most pitiful manner.
01:32:39 This awakened from that mocking heartless.
01:32:41 The most deafening yells, placing me with their kochopa captives near the sufferer.
01:32:47 They bid us keep our eyes upon her until she died.
01:32:50 This they did, as they afterward said to exhibit to me what I might expect if they should catch me attempting to escape.
01:32:58 So they killed the the woman and look, there could be people that say, oh, that sounds a little a little hyperbolic, sounds a little christiany, and maybe it was.
01:33:08 There's some artistic license in terms of how she describes it.
01:33:12 Don't.
01:33:12 Or maybe they. It's not like it's some high tech thing to nail someone to a fucking piece of wood and shoot arrows at him.
01:33:21 But either way.
01:33:24 They're killing the slaves that get away.
01:33:31 And in fact.
01:33:33 Her sister dies in this captivity of the Mojave.
01:33:39 Her little sister, who had been abused brutally by the Yavapai.
01:33:40 Replay.
01:33:45 Who had been marched all over the fucking southwest.
01:33:49 Who have been malnutritioned and and basically just on the brink of death for like years. Really at this point.
01:34:01 Fell into a a sorry state when because of the inability of the mahave.
01:34:09 To produce.
01:34:12 Enough food for their tribe. These mojave who are supposed to be again one with nature, the perfect sustainability model of human beings.
01:34:24 Well, they.
01:34:25 They didn't do a very good job one year.
01:34:29 At praying to guangong or whoever the fuck, because the Colorado River did not flood.
01:34:35 And the crops didn't.
01:34:37 And they ran out of food.
01:34:41 And because they ran out.
01:34:42 Food.
01:34:43 Well, of course, when people start starving to death, you're not exactly going to be feeding your slaves as well.
01:34:55 It would be impossible to put upon paper any true idea of my feelings and sufferings during this trip on account of Mary, I feared she would not live, and I found on reaching the village that she had materially failed and had been furnished with scarcely food enough to.
01:35:10 Her alive.
01:35:11 I traveled whole days together in search of the eggs of blackbirds for Marianne.
01:35:16 These eggs at seasons were plenty.
01:35:19 Then I cherished for a short time the hope that she might.
01:35:23 By care and nursing be kept up until spring when we could get fish.
01:35:27 The little store we had brought in was soon, greedily devoured and with the utmost difficulty.
01:35:33 We get a morsel.
01:35:34 The ground was searched for miles and every root that could nourish human life was gathered.
01:35:39 The Indians became reckless and quarrelsome and with unpardonable selfishness, each would struggle for his own life in utter disregard of his fellows.
01:35:48 Marianne failed fast.
01:35:51 She and I were whole days at a time without anything to eat.
01:35:54 Often, would Mary say to me, I am well enough, but I want something to eat. Then I should be.
01:36:00 I could not leave her overnight.
01:36:03 There were none I could reach by day and return.
01:36:05 And when brought in.
01:36:07 Our lazy Lords would take them for their own children.
01:36:10 Several children had died and more were in a dying state. Each death that occurred was the occasion of a night or day of frantic howling and crocodile mourning.
01:36:21 Mary was weak and growing weaker.
01:36:22 And I gave up in despair.
01:36:24 I sat by her side for a few days.
01:36:26 Most of the time, only begging of the passers by to give me something to keep Mary alive.
01:36:32 My sister would not complain but beg for something to eat. She seemed now to regard life no longer as worth preserving.
01:36:39 And she kept constantly repeating expressions of longing to die and be removed from a gloomy captivity to a world where no tear of sorrow dims the eye of innocence and beauty. She called me to her side one day.
01:36:52 Said olive.
01:36:53 I shall die soon. You will live and get away.
01:36:57 Father and mother have got through with sufferings and are now at rest.
01:37:01 I shall soon be with them and those dear brothers and sisters.
01:37:05 She then asked me to sing.
01:37:07 She joined her Sweet, clear voice without faltering with me, and we tried to sing the evening hymn we had been taught at the family all.
01:37:15 The day is past and gone. The evening shades appear.
01:37:19 Et cetera.
01:37:20 My grief was too great.
01:37:23 The struggling emotions of my mind. I tried to keep from her but could not.
01:37:28 She then asked me to sing the hymn commencing. I was faint and unable to stand upon my feet long at a time.
01:37:35 My cravings for food were almost uncontrollable and at the same time among unfeeling savages to watch her gradual but sure approach to the veil of death from want of food that their laziness alone prevented us having in abundance.
01:37:50 This was a time and scene upon which I can only gaze with horror and the very remembrance of which I would blot out if I could.
01:37:58 She lingered thus for several days.
01:38:01 She suffered much, mostly from hunger.
01:38:04 Often did I hear as I sat near her weeping, some Indian coming near break out in a rage because I was permitted to spend my time thus with her that they had better kill Mary.
01:38:14 Then I could go as I ought to be made to go and dig roots and procure food for the rest of.
01:38:20 Them one day during her singing.
01:38:22 Quite a crowd gathered about her and seemed much surprised some of them would stand for whole hours and gaze upon her countenance, as if enchained by a strange sight.
01:38:32 And this while some of their own kindred were dying in other parts of the village.
01:38:36 The next morning, as I sat near my sister, shedding my tears in my hands, she called me to her side and said I am willing to die.
01:38:44 Oh, I shall be so much better off there.
01:38:47 And her strength failed.
01:38:48 She tried to sing but was too weak. A number of the tribe men, women and children were about her. The chief's wife, watching her every moment.
01:38:58 She died in a few moments after her dying words quoted above.
01:39:01 She sank to the sleep of death as quietly as sinks the innocent infant to sleep in its mother's arms.
01:39:09 And so Mary Ann succumbed to the starvation.
01:39:15 At age 10.
01:39:18 And yet they should have.
01:39:19 Should have.
01:39:20 They should have left the village and walked 350 fucking miles, right?
01:39:26 In in some magical direction where they would know exactly where to go.
01:39:31 When the Indians made it clear we will not go with you if you leave.
01:39:37 You will just die in the wilderness.
01:39:43 They also made the revisionists will also make it sound as if they did her some kind of favour.
01:39:47 See the mojave's would cremate their dead.
01:39:52 But because they were such generous people, they allowed her to bury her sister.
01:40:00 Instead of cremator sister.
01:40:03 As was the white man's custom.
01:40:08 But as she describes the scenario, she describes it as as weirdly.
01:40:14 Almost like there was a a voyeuristic aspect to it.
01:40:20 That they all just kind of gathered around, not in sadness or in solidarity to mourn with her, but added like curiosity.
01:40:28 My.
01:40:28 God. So this is what white people do. Like like people at a fucking zoo.
01:40:37 Amused by her digging this hole and putting her 10 year old sister in the hole and burying her.
01:40:51 Here's a quote from the author.
01:40:54 Quote it was feared that with the deep seated hostility which they bore to the white race in the contempt which they manifested to their white captives, the girls might return to their own people and tell the tale of their sufferings in captivity.
01:41:11 And thus bring down upon them the vengeance of the white.
01:41:16 That all these causes might induce them to sell their captives to the most inaccessible tribe.
01:41:23 And thus consign them to a captivity upon which the light of hope or prospect of escape could not shine.
01:41:37 Now what happened was eventually there were rumors.
01:41:43 Of white girls that were slaves of an Indian tribe.
01:41:49 And.
01:41:51 The authorities at Fort Yuma heard these rumors and didn't really act some.
01:41:58 Some say you know, they they neglected their duty.
01:42:04 As the whites out there and and you know with a Fort, you know they if they have any responsibility at that Fort it should be to protect the white people.
01:42:16 Whether or not they dismissed the rumors because they thought they were just rumors or they were neglectful, who knows.
01:42:23 But eventually there was some bad press about them ignoring these rumors.
01:42:31 Of the white slave girls.
01:42:35 And so the authorities at Fort Yuma.
01:42:38 Sent out messengers to all the known Indian tribes.
01:42:43 And said that we will, you know, basically they offered a deal.
01:42:47 We'll either buy the the freedom of the white girls or we'll we'll kill you.
01:42:53 So it's it's the good old fashion.
01:42:55 What do you want? Silver lead.
01:42:59 A messenger by the name of Francisco went to the Mojave Desert a deal.
01:43:08 And for a box of beads and a White Horse.
01:43:13 And some blankets.
01:43:17 Fort Yuma purchased the freedom.
01:43:21 Of olive oatman.
01:43:27 All of Oatman was then marched on foot.
01:43:31 Back to civilization.
01:43:34 Upon encountering the first white man she had seen in, I believe, five years at this point.
01:43:43 Because she was still just wearing the grass skirt and that was it.
01:43:46 That's all she had when she left.
01:43:50 She lunged to the ground and covered herself and said she wouldn't go a foot further until they brought her.
01:43:58 A dress 'cause she didn't want.
01:43:59 Walk into.
01:44:00 The white civilization dressed like, you know, like a fucking animal.
01:44:08 So they rode back to the Fort. They the officer has got a dress for her, sent it back up.
01:44:15 They dressed her up like a human again.
01:44:21 And brought her back into civilization.
01:44:25 Where they told her that her brother had survived.
01:44:30 And she was reunited with her brother.
01:44:35 She then later went on to go to school and she married a rancher and settled in Texas.
01:44:44 After you know, writing her book that these were, we've been listening to quotes from.
01:44:51 She never recanted anything that she had said.
01:44:56 She never had any children of her own because it's again, it's theorized that because of the the brutality of the rapes that she and her sister were subjected to by the Evapor certainly, and and most likely the Mojave as well.
01:45:12 She was unable to have children. She ended up adopting, I think a A, a kid or two.
01:45:18 With her husband, John Fairchild, when she lived in Texas.
01:45:23 But they never had any kids of their own.
01:45:28 The revisionist of.
01:45:29 Will they say like, oh, she had, like, a secret husband and secret kids or whatever. But like, she never made any attempt to try to contact that person if they existed and and again.
01:45:42 If they're, let's just say that she did have a a Mojave husband and kids, they would probably rape kids.
01:45:48 Let's just be honest, it was probably, you know, coercive at best. All right.
01:45:53 You're literally a slave.
01:45:56 But there's no evidence that even.
01:45:58 That's just again, all the people that want to rewrite.
01:46:01 And they have zero evidence of of anything like that other than this lady once said it, it's like, OK well.
01:46:10 The tattoo, of course, was very striking.
01:46:14 Made her kind of.
01:46:15 It was kind of a big story at the time.
01:46:17 They they named two different towns in Arizona after her.
01:46:22 Was all of Arizona which.
01:46:25 I believe is around Blythe CA now.
01:46:29 It doesn't exist anymore.
01:46:30 It's like a ghost town.
01:46:32 And then Oatman, Arizona, which is near the Arizona, Nevada border, I've actually been there.
01:46:40 It's kind of like a tourist trap.
01:46:42 It's like an old.
01:46:44 Abandoned mining town.
01:46:46 Well, not.
01:46:47 I mean, there's people live there now, but it's, you know, it's very Olive Oatman themed and there's donkeys everywhere for some reason.
01:46:56 If you've ever been there.
01:47:00 They do. In fact, they do shoot.
01:47:02 They do live well with blanks, obviously. At noon, I think, and I think it's everyday but very, very regularly, if nothing else.
01:47:11 It's.
01:47:12 It's a fun thing to bring the kids to, I guess.
01:47:16 Umm.
01:47:17 But yeah, other than that.
01:47:22 All that's really left is the site of the massacre.
01:47:26 Which still exists today.
01:47:27 You know you.
01:47:29 In fact, you can look it up and get the GPS coordinates.
01:47:31 Is a illustration, obviously, but it's it's by the Gila River.
01:47:38 West of of Phoenix.
01:47:42 And you can.
01:47:43 This is the actual.
01:47:45 I know if you can call it that, just give an idea of how.
01:47:49 Crazy.
01:47:51 The terrain was for them to go.
01:47:54 You know, West, this was the trail up the Mesa. And when they got to the top of the Mesa, this was this was the incline basically to get to the top where they encountered the avapis.
01:48:07 Who then murdered them?
01:48:10 This is a, you know, not much of A not much of A memorial here, but this is a there's a sign that that's sitting in a.
01:48:18 Of rocks.
01:48:20 At the top of that that incline.
01:48:23 Says side of the Oatman massacre, February 18th, 1851.
01:48:29 And they also have a.
01:48:32 There's question marks about whether the bodies of the family are actually there, or if they move the bodies.
01:48:38 One really actually knows, but there is a.
01:48:41 Gravestone there that says in memory of the Oatman family.
01:48:45 Six members of this pioneer family massacred by Indians in March of 1851 erected by the Arizona Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution.
01:48:56 1954 they got the month wrong.
01:48:57 For summer, it was in.
01:48:58 I don't know why they have March on this plaque.
01:49:02 The sign has it right in February, but.
01:49:05 Here's The thing is, as they rewrite history.
01:49:10 Plaques like this are going to disappear.
01:49:14 Plaques like this that plainly explain in memory of Oatman family, six members of this pioneer family massacred by Indians in March of 1851, despite the date being wrong.
01:49:26 Massacred by Indians is not exactly something that that I think will be socially acceptable.
01:49:32 Probably isn't.
01:49:33 I don't know if they put the plaque up in 1954 when you could still say such things.
01:49:42 Yeah, it's again, not much of A memorial.
01:49:44 You got some some fence posts in the ground in this little sandy area?
01:49:50 Around a a mass grave, possibly. Or again, no one actually knows if their bodies are really there.
01:49:59 This is a sign they put up in the 1920s. That's no longer there.
01:50:05 On this spot March.
01:50:07 I don't know why they have March here. March 1852, Royce Oatman, wife, two Boys, 2 girls were killed by Tonto Apaches.
01:50:18 Again, the names have changed and it's they call me Ava pies now.
01:50:23 Lorenzo D Oatman that.
01:50:24 The brother was left for dead.
01:50:27 Olive and Marianne were taken captives. These girls were sold to the Mojave's in 1852.
01:50:35 Marianne died.
01:50:36 Lorenzo left for dead, recovered and in 1856, with the aid of the US forces.
01:50:43 Olive was returned to her brother, erected by Arizona Highway Department 1926.
01:50:49 And then, of course, the names of the relevant.
01:50:53 White people in the government that erected that sign that as far as I know, is.
01:51:00 Is no longer there.
01:51:05 And now, unfortunately.
01:51:08 She is used in pop culture.
01:51:11 Despite having nothing to do with feminism at all.
01:51:15 As kind of this feminist icon.
01:51:19 I mean, in fact, they, they they've used in these, these, these, NEO westerns that they're producing, right, these lefty fucking westerns that like magatards, like, still, like, the jizz their pants because, well.
01:51:33 They're wearing cowboy boots.
01:51:34 It must be based because they're wearing cowboy boots.
01:51:40 Oh, get me some cowboy boots.
01:51:43 Oh well, we're riding a horse.
01:51:46 Now it has to be based 'cause them lefties don't.
01:51:48 Don't want to bother.
01:51:49 No ride over a horse, nothing. A cowboy boot.
01:51:53 Yeah, you guys know the types, these people that like all this stupid shit like.
01:52:00 Yellowstone and all this other garbage they've they've based, you know, fictional characters on her. And it's always like some fucking.
01:52:09 You know, hot tempered feminist with like, the based tattooed face.
01:52:14 When I was not her at all.
01:52:17 When she returned to society, she had a really hard.
01:52:20 In fact, you know that she married that that rancher from Texas.
01:52:26 And adopted a couple kids, but all the all the information about her from that time is that she actually went in and out of.
01:52:36 Not mental institutions, but like.
01:52:40 Uh, like not resorts, but like basically, you know, 'cause the the rancher was wealthy enough to send her to, like, places.
01:52:47 Like, I mean I guess you could say it's kind of like a like a day spa for like stressed out people or whatever.
01:52:56 And she was depressive, she.
01:53:00 A lot of philanthropy work towards the end of her life and and help kids and and things like that.
01:53:05 But everyone that knew her said that she was just really kind of fucked up from that situation and that she.
01:53:12 Often talked about, you know how she missed her.
01:53:16 Her.
01:53:20 And how she always thought it was this, you know her, which it was obviously. It's horrific thing to have been robbed of her family and go through that ordeal at such a young age and not only just watch her mother and her, her pregnant mother and her father.
01:53:37 And many of her siblings club to death.
01:53:42 But to watch her in slow motion, watch her little sister waste away and die.
01:53:49 While forced to live in a Mojave Village after being brutally beaten and raped by Yavapai's for a while.
01:54:02 And because of her face tattoo, she couldn't really hide everyone who she was.
01:54:08 'Cause again. She's the only at that point because her sister was dead.
01:54:13 The only white woman in North America with a tattoo.
01:54:15 And it's on her fucking face.
01:54:17 She couldn't go out in public.
01:54:20 Without everyone knowing who the fuck she was.
01:54:24 So she started wearing a veil to try to hide it. But you know.
01:54:29 Can't hide like a big fucking tattoo on your face.
01:54:38 But I guess it's the same thing, right?
01:54:40 The same thing.
01:54:43 White settlers going.
01:54:45 It's the same thing as the mass immigration to our our countries today, right?
01:54:52 It's the same exact thing.
01:55:01 Same situation entirely.
01:55:10 You know, I mentioned the other day on Twitter and enraged a lot of pajeets and Jews.
01:55:21 I said something along the lines of if you ever hear a Jew or an immigrant, use the phrase.
01:55:30 Our founding fathers tell them to shut the fuck up.
01:55:39 Because this is the kind of shit my ancestors were going through to make this country happen.
01:55:52 We didn't show up.
01:55:54 To an already established nation.
01:55:59 As fucking parasites.
01:56:06 You are not like us.
01:56:09 Those are not your ancestors.
01:56:15 Shut the fuck up.
01:56:24 These are my people.
01:56:34 And I will never ever feel fucking even a little bit bad about what happened to the Native Americans.
01:56:44 And yes, I know not.
01:56:45 Tribe was like this.
01:56:47 And I'm sure atrocities happen the other way around.
01:56:51 But frankly, I don't give a fuck.
01:56:57 I don't give a fuck.
01:57:01 My ancestors paid with blood, sweat and fucking tears.
01:57:15 Not with H1B1 visas.
01:57:19 So shut the fuck up.
01:57:23 Our founding fathers. Shut the fuck up.
01:57:31 And like I said, this is just one of many, many, many stories.
01:57:40 When I was looking 'cause, I wanted to say like is. Was this an aberration?
01:57:47 In this time period, I know it wasn't an aberration, but maybe well, like by 1850s is when you do think that you know, no, not at all.
01:57:57 Not at all.
01:57:59 There were Indians massacring whites on a fairly regular basis.
01:58:04 The way up into the early 1900s.
01:58:16 In fact, I found one story. I think it was like 1920s in Colorado.
01:58:21 Where?
01:58:23 It was a bunch of Indians got drunk and just started killing white people.
01:58:30 You know, as they do.
01:58:34 I guess.
01:58:37 So anyway, that's the.
01:58:40 That's the story of.
01:58:42 Of all of.
01:58:43 So if you're ever wondering what Oatman, Arizona is named after, that's the that's the story you ever see.
01:58:49 Some Hollywood, you know, feminist cunt with a tattoo on her face in a western.
01:58:55 This is what they're smearing.
01:58:57 This is the history they're trying to to appropriate, I guess.
01:59:05 But this was the horror show.
01:59:08 That was the Old West for a lot of people, you.
01:59:11 Again, her story is particularly bad because of just the, you know, it's just. It's obviously it's a bad story, even if even if parts of it are exaggerated or or there's some artistic license to it, I mean.
01:59:24 Look, her family was still massacred.
01:59:27 She was still sold into slavery and raped repeatedly.
01:59:31 And you know, I mean like there.
01:59:34 No amount of exaggeration will take away the basic facts.
01:59:39 This was horrific.
01:59:42 And common, or at least you know.
01:59:46 Maybe not specifically this exact situation, but situations like this.
01:59:53 Yeah, I read.
01:59:54 That article from that same time period where you had a a wagon train attack and 150 fucking.
02:00:02 People were killed for their supplies. You had the Oregon Trail going on.
02:00:06 Had a lot of the 49ers, you know, 8.
02:00:10 Called the 49ers cause 1840.
02:00:12 You had the gold rush, so you had a lot of people going to California by land.
02:00:18 And a lot of people didn't make it.
02:00:23 Yeah, the Mormons, of course going into Utah, but that wasn't it wasn't just Mormons.
02:00:27 Had you know the the Oklahoma territory?
02:00:32 With the homesteads there, I mean, you know, the movie far and away is based on that.
02:00:36 Know they had those land rushes.
02:00:47 And we built this country out of fucking nothing.
02:00:51 We built this country out of fucking nothing while Indians were trying to murder us.
02:01:02 There's towns, there's entire specially like in Arizona.
02:01:06 And through New Mexico.
02:01:08 The whole SW their their entire towns that were.
02:01:13 Settled and then everyone got wiped out.
02:01:18 Or driven out by by hostile.
02:01:21 And then they'd have to go back and take it back and you know.
02:01:25 Now Wickenburg is an as an example has a history like that which is pretty close to where.
02:01:33 Where the oatmans were massacred.
02:01:39 People don't know this history 'cause they don't teach it.
02:01:41 You like this?
02:01:44 They don't tell you these stories, and a lot of these stories are being lost.
02:01:49 Well, they're written down somewhere.
02:01:53 But no one's.
02:01:54 Mean they're not?
02:01:55 They're not going to keep republishing these books.
02:02:02 I mean, fuck if Netflix made a movie about this now.
02:02:06 All of a sudden would be black and the Indians would be white.
02:02:12 And people would believe.
02:02:13 It wouldn't make any sense, but people would believe it.
02:02:26 So anyway.
02:02:29 Hope hope this was at least.
02:02:33 A new story for a lot of people.
02:02:36 And for any Jew that wants to say, oh, it doesn't sound really got 2 words for you bitch. Anne Frank.
02:02:42 Fuck off.
02:02:44 Whatever this is, this story is a bajillion times more real than that fucking piece of fiction.
02:02:52 So let's take a look at Hyper chats on.
02:02:57 Odyssey.
02:03:04 All right, Bessemer, 72 says.
02:03:07 I found a gem of a movie that you might enjoy deconstructing runaway jury.
02:03:14 Everyone is manipulating scamming except the highly ethnic Jewish lawyer played by Dustin Hoffman.
02:03:21 The subject is Holi, Meg gun makers accountable for shooting deaths give up guns, Whiting for the kids.
02:03:29 Feel like I've.
02:03:31 Have I seen that?
02:03:35 Let me look.
02:03:41 Maybe I haven't seen it, but I saw previews of it.
02:03:46 Because I was thinking of a movie that was more 80s and that says 2003.
02:03:52 O it could be good.
02:03:54 I'll add that in there.
02:03:58 Based on true story, I'm sure as they always are.
02:04:03 All right. Then we got Gorilla hands.
02:04:17 I.
02:04:18 What?
02:04:20 You.
02:04:22 Got to pull yourself out.
02:04:25 Holy fuck.
02:04:37 Hey, Devon, what do you think of?
02:04:38 Of uncle of uncle.
02:04:41 It just says, I think I'm uncle someone.
02:04:43 What do you think of Uncle?
02:04:44 I always enjoyed his movies growing up and thought he seemed like a decent guy.
02:04:49 Then there was that fateful night in Malibu 20 years ago.
02:04:54 I was very blue pilled and conservative Normie back then, but I even knew his Hollywood days were over. Uncle. Uncle who?
02:05:03 Oh, you're probably talking about.
02:05:09 What's his face?
02:05:12 The lethal weapon guy.
02:05:15 Why am I?
02:05:16 It's 'cause you said, I'll.
02:05:17 I started like making my scrubbing my brain around for that.
02:05:21 I can't think of a hold on.
02:05:24 God damn it.
02:05:26 He just did that interview on Rogan.
02:05:33 Ah yeah. So.
02:05:36 Mel Gibson, of course.
02:05:40 Sorry, my brain's still.
02:05:42 1850 here.
02:05:44 I don't.
02:05:45 He's look, he's he's a fucking Catholic.
02:05:50 To a cue card degree. I haven't seen the the Rogan interview. I see. I've seen clips though.
02:05:57 It's like OK.
02:05:59 On dude.
02:06:01 You know.
02:06:03 Whatever I think, I think he's a a net positive.
02:06:06 I.
02:06:06 I think he's a net positive.
02:06:10 But you know, he's probably kind of a little.
02:06:13 He's probably a.
02:06:14 Let's just be honest, he's.
02:06:15 Probably a little bit crazy.
02:06:18 But yeah, his movies are.
02:06:20 His movies are good.
02:06:22 The.
02:06:22 He's a good director. He's a good director.
02:06:26 Gorilla Hand says I listened to his interview with Joe Rogan last night and the most of his opinions on the word. I agree with. I personally think they framed him after he directed the passion of the Christ.
02:06:37 Good to see him bounce back.
02:06:39 After so many tumbles and setbacks in his life, his father.
02:06:42 A genius.
02:06:44 I don't know much about his father.
02:06:45 I heard that he's like also a hardcore Catholic or something, but.
02:06:49 Yeah, I haven't seen the interview. I saw some clips that make.
02:06:54 I don't wanna get into it, but like, come on the Shroud of Turin guys, really.
02:06:59 I've always thought that was.
02:07:00 Even when I was like, super religious, I always thought it was kind of silly.
02:07:03 You know, whatever.
02:07:06 Gorilla Hand says I met uncle. There we go. Uncle Mel Gibson, there we go.
02:07:12 Christ Pelt says Devon.
02:07:13 Talent does.
02:07:14 There is too precious to waste any.
02:07:16 We would happily go with without some Wednesday streams to gift you some or some time to finish another audiobook, whether it's about modern medias effects on our brains, or day the rope 2.
02:07:28 If you, dear listener, want more pro white art in the world, please vote with your money and give Devin a $5.00 a month.
02:07:36 I'm.
02:07:36 Not saying someone else saying this on subscribe star so he has some passive income outside of streams to deliver us.
02:07:43 They have, right?
02:07:43 Day of the rope 2.
02:07:45 There you go.
02:07:45 There's a suggestion from Christ Pilled.
02:07:50 To support the cause.
02:07:52 I mean, look, I it'll get done. Both those books I mentioned real briefly that I have like a nonfiction book that that I'm working on and it's it is outlined.
02:08:04 It's not gonna be super long, but it it needs to be a.
02:08:07 It's it's way too long to be like a stream or anything like that, and it's the kind of thing that I feel like it needs.
02:08:12 A book that you can go back to and reference and stuff.
02:08:15 And then as far as data up to that, you know I, I, I I'm going to try to have that done or out the door this this year, but I know it's only January. So that's not saying much, but we'll see.
02:08:27 We'll see what happens with all that I.
02:08:29 I think I said that last year too, and it didn't happen. So I know I get.
02:08:33 Know I get it.
02:08:34 Is tough though.
02:08:35 It's tough to work a full time job, which this stream really is. A lot of people don't realize.
02:08:39 Think, oh, you only work two nights a week. It's like.
02:08:43 Not really. You know, kind of had AI had to read a book for.
02:08:46 One and.
02:08:48 Kind of. You know, there's a lot of lot of preparation that goes into this sort of thing. You know looking through newspapers.
02:08:55 It.
02:08:55 You know, it might just it.
02:08:57 See, I might make it look easy, but it's not easy.
02:09:01 But thank you for the support.
02:09:03 Christ Pilled Jesse Po, holiday says. Ever thought of doing a deep dive on George Patton?
02:09:09 He seemed like one of the last true hardcore Western men. He discovered the truth at the end of the war.
02:09:14 Who? The real enemy was, and he was also Jew Pilled.
02:09:18 He despised that coward war criminal.
02:09:21 What do you think? I was thinking if I did that, I might do it through the context of the movie.
02:09:26 The very Jewish movie that was very promoted 'cause they base they they knew you couldn't.
02:09:32 He was such a well liked figure that you couldn't act like he didn't exist.
02:09:40 But you also couldn't let people know what he was really like.
02:09:45 And so they did.
02:09:47 A rebranding of Patton by making him look kind of like the hard ass that people liked about him. But of course, leaving out all the little bits and pieces that you've mentioned.
02:10:00 So maybe that would be a good that's something I know I started one at one point. I started watching it and started doing that.
02:10:06 Got distracted by something else?
02:10:10 Hungry, Howie?
02:10:24 I'm just the weekend photographer.
02:10:27 In regards to those asking for your older style content from the YouTube days, what about using Kickstarters to fund those projects?
02:10:35 Could be alternative way to create some of those high emotional value videos, like an updated version of defiant or some other topic that would be good for.
02:10:43 Red Pilling problem with that is there's not a lot of sites that won't instaban you for that kind of a thing.
02:10:51 And it still doesn't take away from the fact that it takes time to make those.
02:10:55 Know what I mean?
02:10:55 Like I still got to be streaming and you know, a lot of those videos take weeks to make.
02:11:04 And you know, I'm like, I'm not saying I'm not going to ever make videos like that again.
02:11:08 Just it.
02:11:09 It makes it tough.
02:11:12 To also be doing the streams and you know. Oh, I'm gonna spend weeks on this thing.
02:11:17 I've got it like I think I was streaming when I made the fiant right.
02:11:22 But it's, you know, it's it's it's.
02:11:25 Lot of.
02:11:25 It's a lot.
02:11:25 Work 'cause I don't I.
02:11:27 I don't farm anything out to anyone else.
02:11:29 Maybe I should.
02:11:31 But I don't farm anything out to anyone. Anything to anyone.
02:11:33 Like if you get a book of mine or a video of mine or anything of mine, it's 100% me. You know, like with the exception of obviously sometimes I get footage from other sources or whatever. But like, you know.
02:11:46 By and large, it's.
02:11:48 100% me you.
02:11:50 So whereas a lot of other people have producers.
02:11:55 You know things like that. And you know, if I if I were to take on sponsors and stuff like a lot of people do and I'm not saying, you know, I'm even 100% against that, but.
02:12:07 I prefer not to operate that way, but then it affords you the ability to do stuff like that, but you know.
02:12:14 It's a.
02:12:14 It's a lot of time.
02:12:17 But again, maybe maybe we'll maybe we'll have some come out this this year. I like how you guys are.
02:12:22 You just take and take it.
02:12:25 I just want more and more and more.
02:12:28 I'm like joking.
02:12:30 Lampshade denier says it's hysterical that Panda Express is trending on Twitter because of that douche bag.
02:12:37 Ruffo they go from learn to code to learn to build an A rice bowl.
02:12:42 Fucking conservatives conserve nothing.
02:12:46 You know, I I wasn't really on Twitter much because obviously I was, you know, knee deep in in olive oatmeal.
02:12:53 Want to keep calling her? Annie Oatman. I I I was sorry to not do that cause of.
02:12:59 Oh, that that Western chicanee.
02:13:02 Now I can't even think of what her last name.
02:13:03 But like there's that that other famous Western girl named Annie something. But I kept wanting to call her Annie Oatman.
02:13:10 The whole stream, but I was all I was up to my eyebrows and all of Oatman, all day.
02:13:15 Looking into this stuff.
02:13:18 But I I can infer by based on what you're saying, kind of what happened and.
02:13:25 Yeah, H1B1 visas are.
02:13:29 You're gonna get them.
02:13:30 You're gonna get them.
02:13:31 It's gonna happen. You.
02:13:33 Here's one thing I want to talk about, actually.
02:13:36 So that I meant to talk about during the stream a little bit.
02:13:40 One one thing that you'll notice with with the the difference between the Native American reaction to white immigrants. If you want to call us that into their quote UN quote nations and versus the white.
02:13:57 Reaction to the non white immigrants into their nations. OK, one of the big differences is.
02:14:06 There it seems to.
02:14:07 And they seem to be tied.
02:14:09 It seems to be that the less civilized you are, the more violent your reaction. So in other words, because the Ava pies, as an example had.
02:14:22 Literally no civilization.
02:14:24 And they encountered white people with no civilization.
02:14:29 Their response to that was hyper viol.
02:14:32 Because it was in in in direct relationship to their lack of of civilization.
02:14:39 Whereas whites, because they're highly civilized.
02:14:44 Their response to the invaders is extremely to their detriment, nonviolent. OK.
02:14:53 And at first I was like well.
02:14:57 That's because.
02:14:59 Their tough environment.
02:15:02 Has created this violence, this violent spirit that is actually, you know, it's actually preferable.
02:15:12 Because they have these these constant pressures applied to their survival, they're more sensitive to it and whatever. And that was that was at first I was like that's that's probably, you know, that's an easy explanation.
02:15:26 Explains the whole relationship there, whereas like life gets easier, people are lazy or what?
02:15:33 And maybe maybe there's an aspect to that.
02:15:35 Maybe there's an aspect to that, but then I start thinking about it and.
02:15:39 Like well, actually if you think about it, it's because as you become more civilized as a people, it's not that you become or that you as you know inherently that you would become.
02:15:53 Less defensive about defending that civilization.
02:15:56 It's that you expect that as a civilization, as a complex society where all these different.
02:16:05 Duties are supposed to be divvied out to different members of the society, like everyone's pulling their weight just in a in a.
02:16:15 In a more precise.
02:16:18 Segmented way right that everyone's got their little job that they're doing to make the society go round.
02:16:24 I think that as you become a more complex society, people start to get blinders on and and just focus on their little job. They're supposed to be doing to keep everything running, and they make this assumption.
02:16:39 That there are people that are at the top that are supposed to take care of the invasion thing.
02:16:45 You know, as an example, you could say that you know in a micro if you if you have people in your neighborhood.
02:16:56 That look like they shouldn't be.
02:16:58 Most people, their first response isn't to go out there with a baseball bat.
02:17:02 Maybe it should be, I don't know.
02:17:04 Like you know, whatever.
02:17:05 But but it's to call the cops because you know that the cops, it's that that job has been delegated to someone else.
02:17:15 That they're supposed to keep the riffraff out of your neighborhood and that works in a society that's not multicultural.
02:17:24 Because in a society that's not multicultural, where everyone's interests align.
02:17:30 Where you don't have all these different interest groups, you know competing for power, some interest groups who actually want invaders to come in, and some interest groups that represent the invaders themselves.
02:17:44 If you had a actual monolithic society, that was that that was made-up of people with a shared history and a shared destiny and shared priorities.
02:17:56 That would be the way that you would want people to behave.
02:17:59 You wouldn't want people, everyone acting as vigilantes.
02:18:04 You wouldn't want that because you would want the people that you have delegated that task to.
02:18:11 Hopefully through some system that is going to select the best people for that job, that's who you'd want handling that that job.
02:18:21 And unfortunately, we find ourselves in a situation where the people who are supposed to be handling that job are no longer doing that job, and because we've relied on that system for so long, the other people kind of seem helpless.
02:18:37 Don't.
02:18:37 What are we supposed to do when this doesn't work?
02:18:42 And that's I think that that's unfortunately the situation.
02:18:45 We're in right now.
02:18:49 Let's see here, lampshade denier again, says Chris Ruffo is married to an illegal alien from Thailand.
02:18:57 No surprise that he is good with white replacement.
02:19:00 So there you.
02:19:00 Perfect example of of why it wasn't working.
02:19:04 We also have the race trader goy Matt Walsh jump on the bandwagon with bashing white zoomers and their unwillingness to work at Panda Express.
02:19:12 Same exact situation.
02:19:14 This is what happens when you have multiculturalism.
02:19:17 And you can't rely on the people because they're not your people anymore.
02:19:21 And so their priorities no longer are your priorities.
02:19:25 And and so you might as well.
02:19:29 Not have them.
02:19:31 I mean they, they they serve no purpose other in fact to A to a degree.
02:19:36 They are the they are the problem.
02:19:40 They are the problem, not even to a degree at this point. They are the problem.
02:19:44 They are the enemy.
02:19:46 The people that are supposed to.
02:19:48 Protecting you from the enemy have become the enemy, so you just don't have a country right now.
02:19:53 You are in an occupied territory.
02:19:57 You're. I mean, you're basically you're. You're the Indians right now.
02:20:00 Been occupied by the by the settlers.
02:20:03 I guess that's one way you can make a comparison.
02:20:06 Goy Boy, 1488, says just here to respectfully request a Devon and Morgoth fireside chat.
02:20:12 Be down with that.
02:20:14 I'm sure he would be.
02:20:15 I just, you know, a matter of time.
02:20:18 Beachgoers.
02:20:32 Oh.
02:20:34 Beachgoers just want to say I'm happy that ear rape has made its way back in the insomnia stream. Big fan, you haven't had. That was probably a good example of it.
02:20:42 Haven't had a chance to to fix some of the levels.
02:20:48 In last stream I was kind of being.
02:20:51 I don't know. I was.
02:20:53 I was embracing violent Bigfoot last last stream for some reason.
02:20:59 Oh, I'm sorry, swamp ape.
02:21:01 It was swamp ape.
02:21:04 All right, Volga, German.
02:21:07 Your walk around video inside the house a few episodes back is very impressive.
02:21:11 Have no.
02:21:13 If they don't notice great work, I think I know what you're talking about.
02:21:18 And thank you very much.
02:21:20 Decimal threat.
02:21:30 I enjoy the clips people have posted X. The ones you have reposted are the true meat of the fantastic streams you produce.
02:21:39 Keep up the great.
02:21:39 I hope your listeners continue to spread the impactful and concise statements that continue to inform and inspire.
02:21:46 Yeah, I you know, I encourage people.
02:21:49 To clip and share whatever they find value in, you be the judge of what you think resonates the best with you.
02:21:57 What's going to help us the best and and yeah, if I if I see it, I don't always see it.
02:22:03 If I see it, I'll I'll you know. I'll. I'll retweet, retweet it to, to the people. I. I mean, I'm pretty sure that my algorithmically.
02:22:14 I don't want to say my account's been.
02:22:15 But my.
02:22:17 I hate when people say that, but I bet like, you know, I I just.
02:22:20 Can look at numbers and I can pick up on patterns and.
02:22:23 Can know that. Well, that's weird.
02:22:25 I tweeted out about like it like the perfect example is I said.
02:22:28 What the fuck is a power lesbian?
02:22:30 And retweeted a headline that had the word power or words, power, lesbian it. And I'm getting like.
02:22:37 Like 100,000 likes or something like something stupid. And I was like, OK, so if.
02:22:43 If I just.
02:22:45 Don't talk about.
02:22:46 Is this is this like X trying to tell?
02:22:49 Hey, Devin. Just, you know, just say funny things and look, we'll reward you.
02:22:56 But I've had a few anomalies like that where I'm just like oh.
02:23:00 So if I just go non political at all, then you guys give me a lot of people seeing my stuff.
02:23:07 Interesting.
02:23:09 So I'll do what I can when I see it.
02:23:11 Jay Ray 1981 says where the fuck is retarded faggot?
02:23:16 Oh, I don't.
02:23:16 That's a question for the ages.
02:23:19 Flush of the ages.
02:23:21 Corn pop. The bad dude.
02:23:27 Believe I heard you talk about circumcision last stream.
02:23:30 Did you know that Christians didn't even need to circumcise?
02:23:34 It was a covenant the Jews had with God.
02:23:38 Do you know why Christians did to be more Jew?
02:23:42 Can you?
02:23:42 Still to this day, butchering your child to be more like Jews, yeah, there was a big.
02:23:49 Campaign in America.
02:23:52 To circumcise your kids and.
02:23:55 It.
02:23:57 I would say well, it didn't start post World War 2, but I feel like it really picked up post World War 2.
02:24:03 I have a theory about.
02:24:04 I don't know if it's right or not, but I well, I think didn't Kellogg, like the guy who started Kellogg?
02:24:11 Didn't he really push hard for circumcision or something?
02:24:15 He said that like it like, they would cure masterbation or I don't know what I suspect though.
02:24:21 That, at least from what I've.
02:24:23 And this again, this is nothing that I've like sat down to research.
02:24:27 I just had this thought.
02:24:28 It's totally wrong.
02:24:29 From what I heard, one of the ways in which Jews were identified during World War 2 is circumcision, because no one else did it.
02:24:38 So it was like, and all Jews did it.
02:24:41 So it's a quick easy way to be like, Yep, he's a Jew, you know, like his, you know, pull down your pants.
02:24:46 A Jew and.
02:24:50 I suspect, although I could be totally wrong, that this might have.
02:24:58 Influenced Jews to want to make this a less useful way of identifying Jews by getting a lot of non Jews to do it.
02:25:10 In the you know, because they're very.
02:25:13 Very paranoid about that era in.
02:25:17 So that's, I don't know if that's.
02:25:19 It's just something I, you know, something I thought of.
02:25:23 Jay Ray Knight, 31, says look up the book, the Frontiersman.
02:25:28 Good old Mel Gibson brought that up.
02:25:32 Did he?
02:25:32 The frontiersman is that the.
02:25:34 Think I.
02:25:35 Might actually know what that is. Let me see.
02:25:46 The frontiersman.
02:25:56 I don't know what this is actually.
02:26:01 Well, there's a.
02:26:02 I don't think it's the movie, right? It's the books.
02:26:06 There's a 1938 movie called The Frontiersman.
02:26:13 And doesn't say it's based on a book.
02:26:19 There's gotta be. There's this book series.
02:26:24 There's another book.
02:26:26 By Alan.
02:26:27 Eckard at Barnes and Noble.
02:26:32 What year was it out?
02:26:33 Says the fur, the first book in a six volume series known as the Winning of America in hardcover and narratives of America in paperback.
02:26:44 Of the OR what year was it made?
02:26:47 Blah blah, blah blah blah.
02:26:48 It's about the period between 1755 and 1836, but when was it written?
02:26:56 Published in 2011, that might be what.
02:26:59 Not what I was thinking of then.
02:27:02 Might be worth taking.
02:27:02 Look.
02:27:03 Yeah, I think that this is something I want to periodically do is I want to tell some of these stories about how the West was won.
02:27:13 Because it's a lot of.
02:27:16 Shit that people who are descended of these people should be proud of that. You've never heard of. Like I was saying, Jebediah Smith. I mean, that guy was just a fucking complete like monster.
02:27:26 Like he, I mean, not not a bad way. Like he was like a fucking.
02:27:30 Like chat like like Giga Chad like you wouldn't believe.
02:27:35 And just stories about these guys. Who are I mean, and he was descended from on both sides. Some of the original settlers from his family been here since the 1600s. And, you know, as as my ancestors too, and a lot of lot of you guys out there.
02:27:53 And it's.
02:27:54 It's a history that.
02:27:56 That they gloss over because it became unpopular to.
02:28:00 Talk about, especially with the.
02:28:03 The the the reframing of things from.
02:28:08 Manifest destiny narrative to you know, the unlimited white guilt.
02:28:14 Narrative that we live in now.
02:28:16 So I think it's.
02:28:17 It's good a good idea to revisit some of these stories.
02:28:23 Let's take a look here.
02:28:30 Bloot and Biden.
02:28:38 Hey, court.
02:28:45 Will the shit libs cause or allow any trouble at Trump's second inauguration.
02:28:51 I mean probably a little bit, but not like you know.
02:28:56 I I would be surprised.
02:28:57 Maybe there's gonna be a couple blown out of proportion Antifa things, right.
02:29:03 Like Molotov cocktails, like like a I'm. I'm guessing like a fraction of of what we've seen in the past.
02:29:12 Just you know, you're going to have.
02:29:14 Just like, yeah, the right has Q tards. The left has blue tards.
02:29:20 And I I I I'm sure some of them will pop.
02:29:22 That's just the nature of the beast. Or or, you know, some low IQ, non white will freak out or something, but nothing is not going to be a big deal, I don't think.
02:29:34 Corn pop. The bad dude. You talked about royal Jelly, but left out the best part.
02:29:39 Tell us, Devin, how is royal bee Jelly made exactly?
02:29:44 Don't know how it's made.
02:29:47 I think it's just, I mean it's excreted from from bees, right like.
02:29:53 I mean, it's beebar.
02:29:54 Like I said essentially, but like so is honey, kind of.
02:30:01 I.
02:30:01 Let me.
02:30:02 Is there something more?
02:30:03 It that I'm missing out here?
02:30:07 Let me like.
02:30:14 It is.
02:30:15 It's produced by worker bees.
02:30:19 Royal Jelly is secreted by the glands and the heads of the nurse bees, primarily the hypo Fara something gland and the mandibular gland of bees aged 5 to 15 days.
02:30:31 The bees consume large quantities of honey.
02:30:34 And bee bread, which is like it's like pollen. Like it's like the it's like the dry.
02:30:42 The dry food they pack in there to stimulate their glands to produce royal Jelly.
02:30:48 Royal Jelly is a protein rich secretion with a Milky appearance. It contains protein.
02:30:54 Literally cum guys.
02:30:56 It's fucking cum.
02:30:58 I mean, it's secreted by female bees, but it's.
02:31:02 It looks like cum.
02:31:06 It's it's got the consistency.
02:31:09 Don't.
02:31:09 I don't know.
02:31:10 Eat it if you want to.
02:31:12 It's not something I'm interested in. Man of Low Moral Fiber says Mormons would be a lot cooler if they still excluded darkies.
02:31:20 Yeah, I mean you can say that of every religion at this point.
02:31:23 Oint. But yeah, that was that was a core part of the the Mormon religion. At one point. In fact, it kind of worked out in terms of settling the West because.
02:31:36 If you believe the Mormon narrative, these Indians, these yavapai's that they're encountering, they're literally brown because God cursed them.
02:31:44 And they are.
02:31:46 You know, they're they're they're not.
02:31:51 As good as you.
02:31:53 In the context of 1850.
02:31:57 It's not as big of a deal to.
02:32:00 If you're Mormon to kill an Indian as it is to kill a white man.
02:32:04 You know, there was a very racial component to Mormonism in the early days and and going on through up into the the 20th century. It really wasn't until the 70s that boomers ruin Mormonism in that way.
02:32:18 Corn pop. The bad dude.
02:32:20 Would you rather die without offspring or splod your goop into a high IQ Ethiopian girl?
02:32:29 I mean, I don't know Ethiopian. Well, I mean, what's I know they're high IQ for Africans, but.
02:32:37 I wouldn't wanna.
02:32:37 Wouldn't.
02:32:38 Me personally, I wouldn't wanna have Ethiopian.
02:32:42 There's other reasons why Q is.
02:32:44 Everything, by the way.
02:32:45 There was a time I used to think that it was.
02:32:48 There was a time where I was kind of like in the Stephen Molyneu days of of my understanding of racial differences.
02:32:55 There was a time where I thought that was like the defining.
02:32:59 Thing that you need to worry about when it came to.
02:33:02 Having.
02:33:04 Mixed race kids that like you know, it actually wasn't like that.
02:33:08 Was the.
02:33:09 That was the that 'cause I was coming from a place where doing all the programming I was like, well, if you don't want mixed race kids, it's probably, you know, it's some kind of bigotry.
02:33:19 No rational reason.
02:33:21 To not want to do that, and then Stephen Monya was like, well, here's the, you know, here's.
02:33:26 He popularized. He didn't invent it, but he popularized it with a lot of people at the time on YouTube that, hey, look.
02:33:31 Here's the race and IQ numbers.
02:33:34 Then all of a sudden you had a scientific reason.
02:33:35 To not want to do that, but it's it's very limited in its.
02:33:41 In its scope, like it's obviously racing, IQ is a an issue, but that's not where the differences end. It's it's just one of the easiest differences to measure and it so it might not even be the most important difference.
02:33:55 It's a important difference.
02:33:57 It's.
02:33:58 It's certainly not an insignificant difference.
02:34:00 But.
02:34:02 It's certainly not AII wouldn't do it.
02:34:07 Because there was a time where I was like, oh, then I guess Asian chicks are.
02:34:10 Cool, but no, I.
02:34:13 Don't think that's necessarily the the way to go.
02:34:17 Let's see here.
02:34:19 At the same time, look if if it's like. If for some reason right, it's like, let's say that was the choice.
02:34:26 Either have 0 offspring or you have to have 1/2 Ethiopian kid and you chose half Ethiopian, which by the way I don't know how that would ever be the choice, but if if somehow.
02:34:36 That was gun to the head or something like that.
02:34:39 You know you do. You do.
02:34:41 Know do whatever, OK?
02:34:43 I get.
02:34:44 You know, I get it.
02:34:45 But at the same time, that's never the choice.
02:34:49 Zazzy Mctazebot last stream love and division recommended 2 movies. I can't speak to the last whites of the East End London, but the empire of Dust is cinematic gold.
02:35:00 It's an insight into the mind of the negro, a real eye opener.
02:35:05 It might do well to make up a normie, or wake up a normie or two.
02:35:09 Thanks for the show, I.
02:35:13 Haven't watched it yet, but that is.
02:35:15 That is on the list and I had a couple other people reach out to me and and mentioned that it was like it was worth checking out so.
02:35:24 With your recommendation also I I guess I'll have to at least watch it within.
02:35:28 Next little bit here.
02:35:30 Zazi, Mctasba said.
02:35:33 I did know the story of the Oatman family.
02:35:35 I always thought olive was very beautiful. Her Albina, Molly, and Evelyn McHale all oddly very cute.
02:35:45 And then I'll I don't who these other people are.
02:35:49 Are these?
02:35:49 Are these other like victims of of Indian atrocities? Who are these?
02:36:00 No, she's a.
02:36:01 And then here's Evelyn McHale.
02:36:07 We have a type, they all.
02:36:09 All look very similar.
02:36:13 Well, I don't, Evelyn.
02:36:14 Not so much.
02:36:16 Do you think Evelyn's cute?
02:36:22 That commie chicks, all right, but.
02:36:25 She is a. Who was she?
02:36:31 A bookkeeper that plunged to her death.
02:36:34 For the Empire State.
02:36:35 Right. Well, whatever.
02:36:38 I it's too late for me to look at that right now.
02:36:41 Love and division.
02:36:43 Cash flow checkout.
02:36:50 I'd like to return this duck.
02:36:53 Love and division says in TV shows and movies, brown people are needed to civilize whites.
02:36:59 Who produces these shows and movies?
02:37:01 Thanks Devin for the history lesson.
02:37:03 Absolutely.
02:37:04 It is opposite world, it is.
02:37:08 Satanic inversion. I know there's people that don't like that term, but it's.
02:37:12 An accurate one, I think in this scenario.
02:37:18 Lumpy, Lumpy koala bear.
02:37:42 Yeah.
02:37:52 Like no one gets that but me, I think.
02:37:57 Anyway.
02:38:00 Thomas Jeffersons notes on the state of Virginia really highlight the savagery of the natives.
02:38:09 And also goes into the genetic differences between whites and slaves. If you want an interesting read, look into the race science of the founding. Jefferson was an amazing American.
02:38:21 Notes on the state of Virginia, really.
02:38:27 That is very interesting I.
02:38:30 I will check that out 'cause I. Yeah, that's something. I'm getting tired of.
02:38:33 Getting tired of people, specially in response to what I.
02:38:36 That thing about the founding fathers, I had so many people, including Jews.
02:38:43 Who would say?
02:38:44 In fact, one Jew literally did say.
02:38:47 Actually.
02:38:49 I'm. I'm you're just a bigot.
02:38:50 I'm more like the founding fathers because I'm not a racist and it's just like this idea.
02:38:58 That the family fathers weren't racist is the stupidest thing in the world.
02:39:04 And so, any, any chance you get to point that out is always good?
02:39:09 Bread Baker for Adolf.
02:39:11 Fuck these Prairie negroes.
02:39:13 They are soulless, even without fire water in the truest meaning of the term psi. Read somewhere. Hitler kept his mustache small.
02:39:24 To be able to make a seal with a gas mask in case that shit happened again.
02:39:32 Well, I guess that's.
02:39:34 I I I'd heard that he did it.
02:39:37 To differentiate himself from other people so that people could see him and be like, oh, that's that's that Hitler guy.
02:39:43 It was like a marketing thing.
02:39:46 Jay Ray, 1980.
02:39:47 This will break boomers, who all their fucking lives would tell us. Kids, we have Indian in us. Yeah, well.
02:39:57 Was it by choice that Indian that's in you?
02:40:00 That's, I guess that's a good question.
02:40:05 Well, you can flip that.
02:40:06 Or you go South of the border, there's.
02:40:09 Those those rapey Spaniards?
02:40:13 The screen age.
02:40:16 No.
02:40:24 If anyone remembers, Louis CK had a big thing about how Indians just fuck off all day and how great that is. I actually like Louis CK at one point. If you can believe it. I'm the opposite person I was 10 years ago.
02:40:39 There's a lot of us ex liberals out there.
02:40:41 Yeah, I actually could appreciate his humor at one point.
02:40:45 In fact, he made that.
02:40:47 That show that he self.
02:40:49 That, you know Louie, Louie, Louie, Louie and I remember I watched it like now I think it would make my skin crawl.
02:40:56 I think I watched like a few of those episodes and and thought it was kind of funny.
02:41:01 Yeah, we, you know, look, we're all we're all kind of.
02:41:04 We're all kind of waking up and changing and and the more we understand things, you know, and it shows you the seductive power that this degenerate shit has, and look at it.
02:41:17 On some level.
02:41:18 You have to admire the the skill that goes into that to get people to laugh at their own destruction.
02:41:26 Reinhart says replay gang commander on deck.
02:41:31 Can't wait to hear your scoop on this story.
02:41:33 Another casualty of the pathological wanderlust parcel to the European conquering spirit are women of European stock must be protected and guided at all costs.
02:41:44 We have no future without them.
02:41:47 No novanow.org, I've no idea what that is, but there.
02:41:49 Go.
02:41:51 Well, like again within the case of all of Oatman, I mean, she was a kid. You know Marianne Oatman, they were.
02:41:55 Were.
02:41:56 They were just go with their parents. It's like, you know, many of us, who's their dad, got a job in a new town. And we you don't have a choice.
02:42:03 Just got to.
02:42:04 You don't want to go to the new school, but you got to do anyway.
02:42:07 This is a little more intense than that, obviously, but you know.
02:42:11 Kind of.
02:42:11 A lot of lot of many such cases, lot of pioneer children were subjected to the same or worse.
02:42:18 Doctor Weeb just doing cursory searches on Oatman, the misrepresentation of her experience, and the total sanitization from any respectable sources I can find is unsurprising yet still disgusting and contemptible.
02:42:32 Sick bastards claiming she didn't want to return to civil.
02:42:36 That's the narrative that you'll find.
02:42:38 There's no evidence of this, by the way.
02:42:40 Zero evidence that she want that. She oh, she liked being with the Mojave and she felt like she was part of their tribe and she didn't want to go.
02:42:49 Evidence of that.
02:42:50 There's she never said that.
02:42:52 She never intimated that.
02:42:55 She never tried to go.
02:42:56 I mean, she could have tried to.
02:42:57 Back she.
02:43:00 Married a A a rancher guy, a white guy and and and looked after orphans and adopted white kids.
02:43:07 Know like she didn't.
02:43:08 Didn't make it.
02:43:09 She didn't even get, like, liberally about it and start like trying to do like Indian outreach or try to be some kind of like emissary to the Indians because, oh, I understand them more.
02:43:18 Know what I mean? Like.
02:43:19 You would think that if she had somehow had grown fond of her time with the Indians, at the very least.
02:43:25 Well, for for fucks sakes, you wouldn't have written that book like all those clips that I played.
02:43:30 Those are.
02:43:32 Those those are quotes from her. Unless I said like here's the author, which I did a.
02:43:37 Times.
02:43:37 But those were her quotes.
02:43:40 So and people get so she just want to make money. Really.
02:43:46 Then you're calling her like some kind of fucking sellout. I mean, it's so fucked up that that's that's what they need to do to try to hide this story.
02:43:53 Because it's such a bad story and such a well documented story.
02:43:57 Mean. We know that happened to her.
02:44:00 We know it happened because not only did she survive, her little brother survived.
02:44:04 So we got two people who saw it happen survive in in totally, you know, different ways.
02:44:11 So we know that her family was massacred. And again, this is a time when this wasn't an anomaly. This was happening all the fucking time.
02:44:18 And there's lots and lots of lots of record of it. So it's.
02:44:23 It is disgusting.
02:44:24 I found a few YouTube videos that I wanted to watch just to see like you know how they presented it.
02:44:29 And it.
02:44:31 It was. I wanted to fucking reach to the screen and just start choking like one in particular.
02:44:37 Is this fucking Scottish fuck? That was like there's another guy that kept mispronouncing the Yavapai. He kept calling him vopi or something like that. And I'm just like, you don't even fucking know how to say it.
02:44:47 Get the fuck out of here.
02:44:50 My lying eyes says Zimbabwe just gave white farmers reparations.
02:44:55 No joke, because everyone is starving after they removed white farmers.
02:45:01 Yeah, that's.
02:45:04 Yeah, weird how no one can get.
02:45:06 Seems like brown people really struggle with the basics of of, you know, agriculture.
02:45:13 Bessemer.
02:45:13 Thanks for the stream.
02:45:15 Great show. I did not know about this.
02:45:17 Well, you know, I didn't know about it until I went to Oatman.
02:45:21 That's how I found out about this. I went to Oatman.
02:45:24 Like who the fuck's that? And.
02:45:26 The locals of Oatman, even though like they're not.
02:45:29 Geographically tied to the story, right?
02:45:31 Like nothing in this story happened in a.
02:45:34 But they all know the.
02:45:36 And they all very, very, very right leaning town, Oatman, by the way.
02:45:44 Very right. Leaning town, as all I'll say.
02:45:48 System.
02:45:49 Rebel some Australian abbos tribe ate their own babies. Being on the verge of starvation was the norm.
02:45:57 Even cannibalized European and Chinese gold miners, preferring Chinese flesh, as it was less salty.
02:46:06 Yeah. Well, like I said, these, they're like animals.
02:46:08 Is what wild animals will do.
02:46:11 Wild animals to survive will start eating their young and shit.
02:46:17 I'm not trying to be.
02:46:18 I'm not trying to be cute. The Native Americans, like the Yavapai, were just barely evolutionarily above.
02:46:28 Apes.
02:46:30 Like they just barely.
02:46:33 And and by the way, that's why do you think with all the resources that these communities are given for free?
02:46:41 There's not at least like 11 Native American, like Tech CEO or something.
02:46:47 Not even one.
02:46:50 You'd think they would like Infinity, you know, free everything.
02:46:55 Then at least be 1 like you could say. Well, they're all so like it's like it's like don't feed the animals 'cause, they'll get lazy. OK, but there'd still be like.
02:47:04 Right there'd be.
02:47:05 One that would be like, alright, I'm actually gonna take advantage.
02:47:10 Of all these opportunities that I get handed to me on a silver platter, I I'm I'm gonna be the the outlier that actually, you know, goes and uses this degree to invent.
02:47:21 There's.
02:47:21 There's no one. There's not even one.
02:47:24 There's not one.
02:47:27 Higgs, 49 with the big dono.
02:47:30 Money is Pennsylvania.
02:47:31 Money is the only weapon that the Jew has to defend himself with.
02:47:35 Look how Jewie this shit is.
02:47:51 I.
02:47:53 Higgs, 49, says these types of untold stories are some of your best work. The white man's altruism has always been our biggest weakness.
02:48:02 It's time we steal ourselves for the necessary work that is coming.
02:48:07 Hail victory.
02:48:08 Well, I appreciate that and.
02:48:11 Thanks for the support. That's how these.
02:48:13 These stories keep coming, so I appreciate.
02:48:16 Higgs 49 Andromeda says that's an amazing story.
02:48:21 You.
02:48:21 Well, I appreciate that.
02:48:24 Friendly neighborhood fascist says I'm upset that this story didn't end with the systematic slaughter of well, you know.
02:48:32 Well, I'll tell you what.
02:48:34 Here is a response.
02:48:38 Let's see here.
02:48:42 There I think I have this.
02:48:45 There was a response from. Yeah, here we go.
02:48:50 This is from the Democratic State Journal.
02:48:54 Upon.
02:48:56 Reading the account of Olive Oatman quote.
02:49:01 We have just received the book of the Captivity of the Otman Girls, for which the people have been looking anxiously for several weeks.
02:49:10 Is a tale of horrors and well told. The reader will rise from its.
02:49:16 Perusal.
02:49:17 With a feeling prompting him to seize the musket and go at once to chastise those inhuman wretches, among whom Olive has spent five years, the American people ought to go and give them a whoopin.
02:49:32 Read the book, though it is one of horrors, its style and truthfulness attracts to a thorough reading.
02:49:40 That was from a that was a. That was a book review from the Democratic State Journal.
02:49:47 Man of low moral fibre says. I've always liked the term Indians that describe the chugs because Indian is inherently derogatory.
02:49:55 I'll never call them native.
02:49:57 I think we should bring back engines. I think engines is kind of cooler.
02:50:02 But yeah, Indians works.
02:50:03 And The funny thing is, it's still like the the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
02:50:07 Kind of funny that that's still the official name of.
02:50:11 Their their their federal government babies.
02:50:14 Hammerhead Cow says I heard a revisionist story the other day, a police chief.
02:50:21 Shippy, his son and his driver shot themselves and stab themselves to frame the poor, innocent Jewish anarchist Lazarus Offenbach in 1908.
02:50:31 It's a hilarious story of Jewish outrage.
02:50:34 You might find it interesting.
02:50:36 I've not heard of that, so I will.
02:50:40 Put that on the list.
02:50:43 Crane have bought 72 says I dedicate a pit to the engines.
02:50:48 Yeah, I wish I still had my my some of my gallop animations loaded up.
02:50:52 Would have come in handy, right?
02:50:55 They would have come in handy, I.
02:50:56 We can do a.
02:51:02 Hammerhead cow in a hammerhead cow.
02:51:05 And I just want to say that I've lived in Injun.
02:51:07 Not good use of the Injun territory and from from experience I learned to fucking hate those assholes.
02:51:17 Yeah, I'll tell you, a lot of Americans have not lived in close proximity to engines, and it's a eye opening experience to say the very least.
02:51:24 And yet there are different tribes.
02:51:27 There are different tribes with varying levels of engineers.
02:51:35 We don't have the best ones in the southwest.
02:51:40 Man of low moral fiber says you're you very briefly mentioned, Anne Frank.
02:51:45 How do Holocaust believers justify the fact that she died in Infirmary?
02:51:50 Why would there be a medical facility for prisoners in a death camp?
02:51:55 What possible labor could a Jewish girl provide to a war effort?
02:51:59 Why wasn't she gassed?
02:52:00 Tell insidious.
02:52:01 Well, that's not even to mention the fact that much of her journal was written with a ballpoint pen that wasn't invented until later.
02:52:09 So yeah, the whole thing's fabricated.
02:52:11 Hammerhead Cow says in local historical societies in county records, you can still find horrendous stories of Injuns doing things like torturing 5 year olds, double crossing people who had been kind to them, etcetera. The term Indian or an Indian giver.
02:52:29 Does not come from misunderstanding of Potlatch, but from Injuns 2 faced natures.
02:52:38 Exactly. And look, that's a lot of these.
02:52:40 Stories. That's what I'm saying. We gotta.
02:52:43 Some of these just have to be digitized like some of them are. Just like if you live in an area where there's old timers that like, it's not even the old timers.
02:52:51 It really, but they'll they'll remember their grandpa telling them stuff.
02:52:54 And you're.
02:52:55 Like the local Historical Society, sometimes those records just go in the trash.
02:53:00 Like this stuff needs to be preserved.
02:53:03 We'll describe in God's army.
02:53:05 For sharing this.
02:53:06 The founders are the true greatest.
02:53:09 Yeah. I mean, there's some arguments about, you know, look, no generation's perfect. And there's some arguments about, like, what their real intentions were and whatever.
02:53:18 You know.
02:53:19 It is what it is. I still think that we were a great and we still are a great people.
02:53:25 Americans and we.
02:53:28 We should know more about our history.
02:53:31 Gorilla hands.
02:53:34 Gorilla Hands simply says faggots.
02:53:38 Speaking of faggots, you guys wanna see I never got to use this.
02:53:44 Speaking of like douche bag mojave's.
02:53:48 Or or was.
02:53:49 No, it's a. It's a.
02:53:51 This is a Yavapai I think.
02:53:52 Me.
02:53:54 Like a lot of the photos, because you know 'cause the, you know, the invention of the.
02:53:59 The camera and all that stuff and just access to it.
02:54:02 I was looking for pictures 'cause. I want to find like actual pictures of these monkey ass Yavapai.
02:54:09 Look at this fucking clown.
02:54:16 Oh, look at this fucking jacket.
02:54:23 That's a dude, by the way.
02:54:25 A dude. That's a Yavapai warrior.
02:54:28 Proud Yavapai warrior.
02:54:31 My lying eye says.
02:54:32 Are you familiar with AIU? Atheism is unstoppable.
02:54:37 You and him both have a certain way of communicating very similar uncanny high IQ and salty.
02:54:45 I've heard the name, but I actually I've literally never heard.
02:54:49 Anything he's done, I mean, I've. I've actually been told.
02:54:54 This by other people before, but I still.
02:54:57 I'm I'm wholly unfamiliar with his work.
02:55:00 Maybe I'll look into it someday.
02:55:02 January 1981. OK, so this is all of the faggot bots that work for the likes of Flood and his ilk.
02:55:10 I've no.
02:55:11 Idea what you're talking about.
02:55:16 And then 9 inch review says.
02:55:18 You're being hit with a bot storm, a fake accounts.
02:55:21 Please activate the age restriction so that new accounts under 2 weeks old can't comment to choke out the bots.
02:55:30 OK, I was not aware of this.
02:55:34 Bot storm thing, but I'll.
02:55:37 I'll look into.
02:55:38 Is there any way I can do this?
02:55:39 Me see here.
02:55:41 It is now.
02:55:43 Do I have to do this now?
02:55:46 Oh, bots. Why do you have to?
02:55:50 Attack.
02:55:53 A.
02:55:53 Just a a humble, humble meme farmer doing his memes.
02:56:00 Tending to his memes, as it were.
02:56:02 I'll look into it after the show.
02:56:04 Almost done anyway.
02:56:07 Plissken.
02:56:08 I have to tip for the laminate truth streams. Yeah, exactly.
02:56:14 The long den.
02:56:19 I.
02:56:22 Fuck the yavuepi and their stupid skeleton cave. Those soldiers were doing it right.
02:56:29 I don't know the reference, but but OK.
02:56:33 Mark Twain Forever says more history. I love history.
02:56:37 I appreciate that Jay Ray night that he wants, says Holy Jeep take over.
02:56:43 I'm guessing it has something to do with the chat. Is chat still going crazy?
02:56:49 I guess it.
02:56:50 How do I have to do this now?
02:56:53 Do I have to do this now?
02:56:56 Are jeets so fucking retarded that they they heard that I was talking about Indians and I thought I was talking about them.
02:57:05 Where do I even do this at?
02:57:10 Let's see here settings.
02:57:14 Settings content settings perhaps?
02:57:21 System.
02:57:25 Count.
02:57:28 No, that's not it.
02:57:32 OK.
02:57:32 Let's see here.
02:57:37 Umm.
02:57:40 Channels.
02:57:44 And let's see there.
02:57:50 Hmm hmm.
02:57:52 I go to the page. Is there like a channel settings thing.
02:57:56 Settings.
02:57:59 Here we are.
02:58:06 Let's do.
02:58:20 There we go.
02:58:24 There we go.
02:58:26 Does that has that fixed it?
02:58:35 Did that fix it?
02:58:37 I think it fixed it.
02:58:48 There we go.
02:58:52 There we go.
02:58:58 That.
02:58:58 That worked pretty quick.
02:59:01 All.
02:59:01 I'll just block some of these guys anyway.
02:59:06 Why not?
02:59:11 I wonder what what happened there.
02:59:13 Apparently, Indians is a touchy.
02:59:15 You can talk about who would have thought, who would have thought. You talk about fucking Oatman. And that's that's like, that's the you could talk about the Holocaust and apparently you freak out.
02:59:25 You freak out a bunch of Jews by talking about it. That's weird.
02:59:33 All right.
02:59:37 That's interesting.
02:59:38 Well, I guess now we.
02:59:39 Right now we know that we are.
02:59:43 We're over the.
02:59:44 We need to start talking about the Indians.
02:59:50 And there.
02:59:54 Their treatment of whites.
02:59:58 Well, that was good.
03:00:00 All right.
03:00:00 Sorry about that.
03:00:01 I had no idea that was going on.
03:00:04 So now we know.
03:00:07 Now we know that.
03:00:11 If we.
03:00:13 If we talk about Native Americans, there's a whole bunch of people that freak the fuck out.
03:00:20 That's that's I would have thought that that's actually really.
03:00:24 That's actually really weird. Out of all the shit that we've talked about on this stream, this is what this is. What sets them off is all of Oatman.
03:00:33 Wow, alright, interesting.
03:00:38 Is it like that on? I I gotta take a look on rumble.
03:00:40 Rumble doing the same fucking shit.
03:00:47 Where's the where's the tab I got for that?
03:00:52 Here we are.
03:00:57 Now Rumble is doing all right.
03:01:01 At least I think so.
03:01:08 Is there like a setting in rumble I can do that similar just in case?
03:01:14 Yeah, rumbles.
03:01:15 We're good on rumble.
03:01:18 All right guys, sorry about.
03:01:19 Yeah, I didn't know that that. Apparently that's the the hornet's nest. Is is Olive Oatman?
03:01:27 Who would have thought?
03:01:29 Who would have thought? Man, that's crazy.
03:01:33 Let's see here.
03:01:36 Justin Quinn.
03:01:37 You've brought tears to my eyes. Hearing this story and realizing that fake anti white garbage I was taught in school instead.
03:01:44 Yeah. No this.
03:01:45 It was like I said, it was not an uncommon thing.
03:01:48 It was not an uncommon thing.
03:01:50 You can look at old newspapers and look, I I just look for Indian massacre.
03:01:55 Who knows all the other different ways they phrased.
03:01:58 I don't think that every time Indian violence happened, it was called Indian massacre.
03:02:03 And yet, when I look for Indian.
03:02:05 With a timeline, I think I searched.
03:02:08 It was like 1820 to 1870s, like a 50 year period, which there was plenty of Indian massacre before and after, right.
03:02:15 It was like endless. How?
03:02:17 How much stuff popped up now? Again, there were there were cases going the other way and then there was also this one thing I thought was super interesting.
03:02:26 Was when they were first starting to get the Indian.
03:02:30 Like the federal government was was starting to build like the IHS. But the Indian, the Bureau of Indian Affairs type of stuff.
03:02:38 There was an anonymous letter. If it was very well publicized, although it it stayed anonymous, it was never.
03:02:45 Ever backed up by any kind of?
03:02:49 That was that was supposedly from a federal worker who was afraid to give his name. That said that whites were secretly going around and massacring Indians in these remote areas.
03:03:00 And the only reason why it wasn't being reported is because it was so remote.
03:03:04 And so I.
03:03:05 Was like, oh, maybe this is like a.
03:03:07 And then you look into it and it they, they published this fucking letter in every newspaper in America, or at least all the major ones.
03:03:15 And then no follow up.
03:03:17 There's never like, oh, by the way, we found, like, the mass graves.
03:03:21 Never.
03:03:22 Yeah, it was just.
03:03:24 People were already planting the seeds. I think this was like, I think this was like 1870 or somewhere like around there, but they were already planting the seeds like, oh, yeah, secret white people going around murdering Indians.
03:03:36 And not that that never happened. I'm sure it happened a little bit, but you know.
03:03:42 Let's see here.
03:03:49 Where are we at now?
03:03:53 A lowly scribe in God's army.
03:03:55 For sharing this story.
03:03:56 The founders are the true greatest.
03:03:59 We did that one guerrilla hands. We did that one did that one did.
03:04:03 Sorry, did that one did that one did that one.
03:04:09 Did that Mark Twain forever more, or did that one already?
03:04:15 Here we go, man of low moral fiber says. There are a bunch of negroes in general chat right now deport all browns.
03:04:21 We got rid of them.
03:04:23 Glock 23 says Flat Earth retards.
03:04:25 Piss me off just as much as they do you, Devon.
03:04:28 But there's another kind of retard on the Internet spraying another big lie.
03:04:32 And those are the nuclear weapon deniers. They are the atomic bombs dropped on Japan were quote, fire bombs and not joke. Yeah.
03:04:40 Yeah, the people that say Atomic Energy and and and bombs and it's the same.
03:04:46 Thing is, the same people. It's the same exact retards.
03:04:51 It's the same exact retards saying a lot of that stuff.
03:04:54 Nukes are not fake.
03:04:55 Jay ray.
03:04:56 Any one says JD or JDL.
03:05:02 I'm not sure what I forget what you were talking about there.
03:05:06 Spy Hunter simply says.
03:05:08 Faggots.
03:05:11 Both of these says almost forgot ammo money.
03:05:15 Well, I appreciate that corn pop the bad dude says.
03:05:19 Excuse me, but do I see the Wipa warrior or whatever the fuck appropriating white culture, IE clothing?
03:05:28 I think you mean Yavapai.
03:05:31 Uh, fucking racist.
03:05:32 Yeah, that's the thing. Is this guy here on the screen, this tranny looking Yavapai? Indian. That's not how they would have dressed before the White people showed up.
03:05:41 In fact, I got even funnier ones than this guy or I don't know, this guy's pretty fucking funny.
03:05:46 Since apparently this is a soft spot, let's do a let's do a little more funny post posting here of Indians.
03:05:52 Let's do some more Indian shaming. Look.
03:05:54 At this.
03:05:55 Look at that fucking top hat.
03:06:01 Look at these fucking faggots.
03:06:07 I got I got my top hat but I forgot.
03:06:09 To wear pants.
03:06:14 Yeah, you fucking Injun faggot.
03:06:17 What else we got here?
03:06:22 Let's see here.
03:06:26 I actually I might have some Mojave photos like more current mojaves.
03:06:32 This one's funny. Just because this is their fucking women like, no wonder they were raping white women.
03:06:37 Wanna see this?
03:06:38 This is a chick, the one on the left.
03:06:40 Mean it's a bad?
03:06:41 Why didn't use it 'cause? It's really bad photo, but as long as we're mogging on fucking Indians.
03:06:46 That's a chick. The one on the left. That's a chick.
03:06:48 This.
03:06:52 I know it's hard to believe.
03:06:55 That's a chick.
03:06:58 What else we got here?
03:06:59 Else we got here.
03:07:00 This OK.
03:07:02 Similarly.
03:07:05 Wait for it.
03:07:07 That's a chick.
03:07:13 Oh goodness me.
03:07:14 Oh, we are the proud Mojave people.
03:07:25 Oh, that's right, that's right.
03:07:28 Fuck you, Injun mother fuckers.
03:07:31 So anyway.
03:07:34 Well, it's going going back to.
03:07:38 Going back to the hyper chats here, man of low moral fiber says differentiating the ancient tribes is not necessary.
03:07:46 They're all Navajos to me.
03:07:47 There's a.
03:07:49 And look, there is a difference and there is IQ differences and in fact some of them look suspiciously European and probably be like I'm talking a lot of the tribes like in the in the Northeast, right.
03:08:02 And I think, well, not a lot of the tribes, but some of the tribes in the northeast, and I suspect.
03:08:06 And I doubt I'm the only one.
03:08:08 That a lot of that, it could be, you know, like Viking, you know, people coming over here 1000 years ago, where the hell they they came over here 'cause they did.
03:08:17 Know they did.
03:08:19 You know we we've.
03:08:20 We've got the the tombs of red headed. You know Europeans that.
03:08:26 That predate all many of these tribes in North America.
03:08:31 Who's to say there wasn't some? You know, you know Europeans making it across the ocean.
03:08:37 Reading with some of these people.
03:08:40 I don't know if the genetic.
03:08:42 Testing has been done to back that up in terms of the surviving tribes, but you know there's always been legends of redheaded Indian tribes and, and, you know, fair skinned Indian tribes and stuff like that.
03:08:57 There, there's a difference.
03:08:58 A.
03:08:59 The ones on the the a lot of them are like jungle Asians.
03:09:04 Like fucking jungle Asians on the, you know, in terms of the Yavapai and but like there's there is a, there's a variety, there's a genetic variety for sure. When it comes to, there's no no such thing as quote, UN quote, Native Americans.
03:09:19 Just a bunch of different rando tribes.
03:09:23 Sort of inhabited this land, and they and they like to take credit for ancient civilizations. They had nothing to do with.
03:09:29 Like when they try to say that, well, we made the Cliff dwellings, you didn't make the no one, you didn't make the Cliff dwellings, all right.
03:09:38 You.
03:09:38 You just.
03:09:39 There's no possible way.
03:09:40 Yeah.
03:09:43 Let's see here, hammer thorzing.
03:09:59 The.
03:10:02 Amer Thorzing says 400 bands and counting just.
03:10:06 Me all.
03:10:07 Well, yeah, that's.
03:10:09 I I didn't know that this would be the touchy subject.
03:10:13 I didn't know that this would be the touchy subject. I I mean, in fact, it's not even the first time I've addressed this subject I've talked about.
03:10:21 Know I had that whole gallop New Mexico stream.
03:10:23 Were they mad about that?
03:10:25 Well, is this like a Yavapai?
03:10:28 Yavapai Bot farm.
03:10:34 Sometimes I say the craziest things.
03:10:37 Yavapai.
03:10:39 Anything Internet.
03:10:45 What am I talking about?
03:10:46 Not.
03:10:47 What are they going to bot? Farm me with smoke signals.
03:10:55 All right, Jay, right.
03:10:57 Night to anyone since day one of your stream. I've never seen this in chat.
03:11:02 I don't know what the deal was.
03:11:04 Corn pop. The bad dude says. Isn't the owner of Odyssey Indian.
03:11:07 Don't he use this kind of Indian, right?
03:11:09 Or maybe is? I thought I actually don't know.
03:11:12 The new guy is.
03:11:15 Spy Hunter.
03:11:29 I.
03:11:30 That's what we do with Yavapai woman.
03:11:34 Spy Hunter says these bots are fucking faggots.
03:11:37 Again.
03:11:37 Faggots.
03:11:38 Atheism is unstoppable, makes some of the great some great videos he read.
03:11:43 Till he's a racist, philosopic liberal Gentile.
03:11:48 But his content is varied right now.
03:11:51 Going big on UFOs.
03:11:54 Why are you kind of lost me a lot? Well.
03:11:58 That a lot of that stuff.
03:12:00 Including UFOs.
03:12:02 I don't know. I don't.
03:12:03 Maybe I'll maybe I'll check it out. January 19th, 81 says I could be wrong about gdli.
03:12:09 It back.
03:12:10 Ignore my $1.00 shitpost.
03:12:11 I don't know what that means exactly.
03:12:14 Beauforty says you missed my $10 question. Dev.
03:12:17 Back.
03:12:17 He's $10, huh?
03:12:22 Let's see. Where are we at?
03:12:27 You should just set it.
03:12:28 Then why you making me go back up?
03:12:32 How long is this question that you couldn't just retype?
03:12:36 Well, I don't see any way.
03:12:37 That's not it.
03:12:40 So now you're making everybody wait. I guess. I guess in a matter of speaking, I'm making it real way, but it's not here. I don't.
03:12:47 Have another one for me, dude.
03:12:53 Yeah, I literally don't have it.
03:12:55 I'm scrolling up and there's nothing I got.
03:12:58 I got the one.
03:13:03 Oh.
03:13:03 Yeah, I do.
03:13:04 That's weird.
03:13:04 It didn't pop up when I searched. Hey Dev, if this bitch spoke English and the Indian spoke Indian, how the hell were they talking to each other?
03:13:12 Well, according to the book, like especially when she met the Yavapai, it was very.
03:13:20 You know, hard and they barely because they barely spoke English.
03:13:24 And, you know, she didn't speak any Yavapai and.
03:13:28 She.
03:13:28 With them long enough like you're.
03:13:30 You mean you're 100% immersed in this?
03:13:34 I almost said civilization or society.
03:13:37 Yeah, you're you're in this nightmare of people speaking.
03:13:41 Prairie nog talk. You're going to pick up some of it and they know a little bit of English because they are trading with the white man. I'm sure at first it was it was very difficult.
03:13:52 But you know, especially once you live there for years.
03:13:55 And no one else speaks. In fact, one of the things they said in the original newspaper article about her return back to Fort Yuma was that she was struggling with English, that she was.
03:14:10 Very halting in her speech, and it took her like it took a few weeks for her to get, like englishy again.
03:14:18 So you know it makes sense.
03:14:22 Let's see here.
03:14:23 Where we at now?
03:14:25 That.
03:14:26 Have the scroll back up for both of these.
03:14:29 Men of little more fibre says. I'd like to think that if I lived in the 1800s, I would have dedicated my life to hunting Navajos.
03:14:39 Well, I don't know.
03:14:40 These weren't the.
03:14:41 These were, I mean, not the.
03:14:42 Didn't do some fucked up shit, but these were.
03:14:46 These are different tribes, in fact, that they call them Apaches, because Apaches were, I think, the most one of the more troublesome tribes.
03:14:56 And I think genetically Yavapais are very close to Apaches.
03:15:00 Like they think they're they're they're like a spinoff group in a way.
03:15:04 Corn pop. The bad dude said.
03:15:05 They're dressed like those tranny punks in C rated post apocalyptic Hollywood movies.
03:15:12 Well, yeah, yes they are.
03:15:14 They're like, yeah, like Mad Max, Mad Max, tranny Indians.
03:15:19 Since you're talking about ancient civilizations, please look up. Phoenician and Michigan tablets.
03:15:25 Also Michigan.
03:15:27 I think it might be valuable to show how archaic these civilizations in North America are.
03:15:33 I'm talking like.
03:15:34 5300 BC in North America.
03:15:36 Yeah, there's a lot of this stuff.
03:15:38 There's a lot of.
03:15:39 Ancient shit in North America that doesn't line up with this whole idea that these people came across the Bering Strait and are responsible for anything you find.
03:15:51 It doesn't add up.
03:15:52 Doesn't make.
03:15:54 There's a lot of stuff that's dated well before these guys.
03:15:57 I mean, look, yeah, some of these guys showed up over the Bering Strait.
03:15:59 Whatever, right?
03:16:01 A lot of other, like, really ancient shit all throughout North America and probably in South America too, right?
03:16:08 Doesn't.
03:16:09 That doesn't necessarily mean that it's tied to the people who inhabited it. You know, 1000 years later.
03:16:17 And in the case of the Cliff dwellings, no fucking way. No fucking way.
03:16:21 Indians made the Cliff dwellings and look, some of them will even admit.
03:16:25 In private.
03:16:26 I'll just tell you that.
03:16:29 My line I.
03:16:31 Did you know you share a first name with another black pill streamer?
03:16:36 Oh, there, we.
03:16:37 Atheism isn't stopping a lot of people really want me to to check that out.
03:16:43 All.
03:16:43 Going to rumble now.
03:16:45 We'll go to Cozy Rumble that apparently was not inundated by box.
03:16:51 Here we go.
03:16:53 Where's the Rumble tab at?
03:16:55 Here we are.
03:16:59 And thank God it wasn't because.
03:17:01 That would have.
03:17:02 With the way I've got the Hyper chats set up now.
03:17:06 Who's Joe?
03:17:07 Says hey, I don't want to come off as racist at all, but I think Negro Spritzer makes a convincing argument.
03:17:15 Many such cases, many people seem to have a.
03:17:20 Seem to think he's they like the cut of his jib. Rupert V21, says pajeet.
03:17:28 I have found you through Adam.
03:17:29 I have been following from ILD YouTube days.
03:17:35 All Christmas songs are written by Jews.
03:17:37 My two favorite.
03:17:39 Black Pill and Lucas Gage.
03:17:41 Oh, we.
03:17:42 We got pajeets in the audience, guys.
03:17:45 You're taking the jobs even in the in terms of the audience, you're taking the jobs.
03:17:50 Of the white people.
03:17:54 Rupert V21 says Wednesday and Saturday is a movie night.
03:17:59 Hail Devin, love your stuff.
03:18:00 I appreciate.
03:18:02 Captain Pajeet, who then against?
03:18:04 Personally, I hate when Indians are sucking up the Jews.
03:18:07 It's because the enemy is.
03:18:10 Well, OK, I think what you're getting at is a lot of Indians hate Muslims.
03:18:14 They think that they can suck up the Jews.
03:18:18 'Cause, there's like an ongoing rivalry between Hindus and Muslims.
03:18:24 Who's Joe?
03:18:25 Says, hey Devin, I want wanted to say that the insomnia stream is one of the best streams on the Internet.
03:18:31 A job opportunity at the ball crushing factory thanks to hammer of Thorazine.
03:18:37 In the middle of 80 hour shift.
03:18:40 Well, that's look at that. An 80 hour shift.
03:18:43 At the ball crushing facility.
03:18:48 Alright, scrolling down here we got reseeder.
03:18:52 When you're trying to save money, a good rule to follow is to.
03:19:03 Take it from me, Jim. Neighbors.
03:19:04 It'll pay dividends.
03:19:06 Professor stack. I'm pumped to catch a live stream replay gang for years.
03:19:11 Love your.
03:19:12 You ever think about doing a Colin Flaherty tribute stream?
03:19:17 I wouldn't mind doing that.
03:19:20 Yeah, I mean I I feel like I interacted with him online at one point.
03:19:26 But not it was really towards the end and he and he was taken too soon.
03:19:31 Not not.
03:19:32 Substantively, like I don't think like we were like buddies were like that, but.
03:19:37 Yeah, yeah, I think he followed one of.
03:19:40 Accounts.
03:19:41 At one point.
03:19:44 He.
03:19:44 He was.
03:19:44 Good guy. Who's Joe?
03:19:56 Who's Joe?
03:19:56 Says hey.
03:19:57 I wanted to give shout outs to replay gang 23 and some super chatters who haven't messaged in a while like suicidal white male HGHGH G8, lots of Hg and everyone else who go who loves the stream.
03:20:11 There you go.
03:20:13 Shout out to the people, maybe gone but not forgotten.
03:20:20 Who's Joe again? Says devil.
03:20:22 Please I don't know, I don't.
03:20:23 I don't know what it's called on my I I literally don't know the way I've got these loaded.
03:20:27 They're totally random, so I just hit a button and there's no and they're not even labeled like in my list.
03:20:33 Can't be like, oh, I want this one.
03:20:35 So I just hit this.
03:20:36 And let's see if you get lucky.
03:20:45 The only.
03:20:45 You got horny bigfoot.
03:20:45 I can figure out is what the dying race and they want to reproduce more of their own kind.
03:20:51 How horrible.
03:20:53 You got horny bigfoot.
03:20:58 All right, Scroll down. Scroll down.
03:21:00 Who's Joe?
03:21:01 Oh, maybe you'll get it this time.
03:21:08 That was a repeat of a of a previous one, so I don't know why that came up again.
03:21:13 But yeah, no such luck.
03:21:15 Such luck. Who's Joe?
03:21:18 Cipher says hello.
03:21:19 I finally received the book of or the book Merchants of Sin recommend that a few weeks ago on stream will be reading this week.
03:21:29 All right. Well, let the report back once you've read it.
03:21:32 They're very familiar with Francis Yogis book Imperium.
03:21:36 What are your thoughts on Pan European high culture or is PAN European too broad?
03:21:43 I think the question is too broad.
03:21:46 You'd.
03:21:47 You'd have to.
03:21:47 I.
03:21:48 I don't know the book you're talking about. The Francis Yoke's book imperium.
03:21:54 Let me look.
03:21:58 What is this?
03:22:04 1948 book by Francis Parker, Yoki. Using the pen name Ulich Verange that urges or argues rather for a pan European fascist empire.
03:22:15 Imperium presents, an anti-Semitic theory of history, asserts that the Holocaust was a hoax and is dedicated to the hero of the Second World War, meant to describe and off.
03:22:27 Well, sounds like sounds like fun reading.
03:22:31 That can be a fun read.
03:22:33 Haven't read it though.
03:22:35 Who's Joe?
03:22:36 Says, hey, you know who's Joe?
03:22:38 Get another.
03:22:39 See if we get devil dogs.
03:22:41 Now down the dog.
03:22:46 I.
03:22:46 Hey everyone to add this still.
03:22:48 I know a girl from Delaware who went on Tinder and got raped by a non white.
03:22:53 Went it would have never happened if anti racism wasn't the current morality.
03:22:58 Don't think this was a result of anti racism.
03:23:01 I I think that.
03:23:03 Her everyone knew from the moment.
03:23:05 Yavapai showed up.
03:23:06 That shit was about to go down.
03:23:09 And then I was all downhill from there.
03:23:12 Cypher again.
03:23:13 Damn, I don't know if you remember my comment from the other week, but I wanted to say that the idea of delegating violence to the state was a bad idea.
03:23:21 Delegating breeds complacency. Yeah, but I think that in a in a big society, you have to delegate.
03:23:27 Can't just have.
03:23:28 I'll tell you one thing you could do to make it easier.
03:23:32 You could do sort of what other countries, including Israel, have done or well, they do it right now.
03:23:38 Where you you make serving the military compulsory that I think would be a.
03:23:43 First of all, it'd be it'd be a boon for fitness.
03:23:46 You you make it to where?
03:23:49 You have to.
03:23:49 You have to like even if you're too fat or whatever.
03:23:53 I mean.
03:23:54 You know, maybe you get like bad knees or like, but like, legit, like legit bad?
03:23:58 Like maybe you have something wrong.
03:24:00 You.
03:24:00 But if it's like you're too fat or something like that, no, that means you have to stay in basic training until you're, like, until you can pass the.
03:24:08 You know.
03:24:09 And then you're not too fat anymore.
03:24:11 Then you do that, you know.
03:24:12 Your two years.
03:24:13 You know, once once you can pass the course, but they keep you in like a fat farm. They keep you in there until you can fucking pass it.
03:24:19 And then you you serve two years.
03:24:22 And that'd be if that's all you did in America, that'd be huge.
03:24:26 Now.
03:24:27 I don't know if that's a good idea with the current people in charge of America 'cause, that would give them access to a lot of fucking soldiers, and maybe they shouldn't have access to.
03:24:35 You get what I'm saying.
03:24:37 In.
03:24:38 In a non hostile.
03:24:40 Ruling class situation that that's I think that'd be a good idea.
03:24:44 And the cipher says baseball bat isn't a bad reaction to tee off what you said.
03:24:49 I get what you're saying.
03:24:51 But again, if you had a society that actually functioned, you shouldn't have to do that.
03:24:57 To the extent that people have had to do that in America, it's because look and that is why somewhat of a fondness for the Old West, because it did require more of the citizens.
03:25:08 Did have.
03:25:08 I mean the the sheriff had to make posse and go hunt down outlaws and shit like that.
03:25:13 You know that was.
03:25:16 A.
03:25:16 Lot of Americans romanticized that period because part of them wants to do that.
03:25:20 And so you're right, it's not.
03:25:23 You know, I think given the current.
03:25:25 Situation. That's why we romanticize it. Though I think in a in a in.
03:25:30 In a just world that it would be delegated properly.
03:25:35 Who's?
03:25:35 Says. You know what? I'll give you another one. Let's see.
03:25:38 Just see.
03:25:41 No.
03:25:46 Money Advice? Anyone with a police or military background can get 40 to 50 an hour as an armed security guard. I'm getting a physical for my act or for my ACT 235 in the morning.
03:26:02 Or act 235.
03:26:04 I don't know what that is.
03:26:06 I don't know. That makes me dumb or not.
03:26:10 Should I know?
03:26:11 What that?
03:26:12 But yeah, yeah, there's lots of easy jobs like that.
03:26:14 Not that super old, I guess.
03:26:15 On where you're posted, right?
03:26:19 Yeah, there's there's lots of opportunities for people that.
03:26:22 I'll tell you, this is the way to put it for those who are not picky about when they sleep, there's lots of opportunities.
03:26:31 Uh, jafg.
03:26:34 And your feet gets the devil knocked.
03:26:41 Hard lock there.
03:26:43 At least we got it.
03:26:44 We had a lot of engines in my high school in California.
03:26:48 They were the source of most of the problems.
03:26:51 They cannot be civilized.
03:26:53 Look, I've had. I've had.
03:26:55 Similar experiences is what I'll say in various Western states.
03:27:03 Jafik again.
03:27:06 Hello. Hello, hello.
03:27:10 A lot of the white kids there would try to assimilate with them by claiming to have.
03:27:15 From whatever goofy tribe. That's the first I noticed the self hatred and the desperation to appear white or to appear non white, I think is what you mean.
03:27:25 I saw that all the time I saw white kids trying to be like, you know, a 16th this or an eighth that.
03:27:34 Because it was so beaten to our heads that, like White was.
03:27:38 That if somehow you know if you could Sargon your way out of being white and say that your dad was black or something like that, everything you know, then it would be you'd be free of that guilt.
03:27:49 It was really kind of depressing.
03:27:53 Again, says I had to share my MVP with one guy just because he was mono Indian.
03:28:00 Dude missed half the season.
03:28:03 Could rant about Rez rats forever.
03:28:05 Thanks for this installment, Devin.
03:28:08 One was galvanizing.
03:28:09 Yeah. Well, there you go.
03:28:13 Yeah, like I went to a high school and a middle school with.
03:28:19 Not a with a non insignificant number of Indian who's Joe again says, hey, Devin, why is she'll and ask if you would ever do an interview with Jolly Heretic with Edward Dutton.
03:28:30 He's pretty popular.
03:28:31 I'm sure he could add to the fanbase with exposure and Ed is amazing.
03:28:36 If Ed invites me on, I'm I.
03:28:40 Would would.
03:28:41 I would probably do.
03:28:42 I don't know what to talk about.
03:28:43 Mean I.
03:28:44 I know who he.
03:28:44 I'm familiar with his stuff, obviously.
03:28:48 I wonder if there'd be a topic that he would.
03:28:52 Want.
03:28:53 He'd want to talk about on his thing, but yeah, I'm. I'm not opposed to that.
03:28:58 Scrolling.
03:28:58 Scrolling down, scrolling down.
03:29:00 Scrolling down, scrolling down.
03:29:02 Scrolling down, here we go.
03:29:04 And, of course, Negro Spritzer.
03:29:07 Has expressed his dislike. He added a group that he is dissatisfied with.
03:29:13 In addition to not enjoying the company of.
03:29:20 Of dot Indians, Jews, blacks, Mexicans and Asians of all sorts, he now appears to disapprove of.
03:29:31 Of the the the noble, the noble Savage, the Native American.
03:29:36 I wonder what he feels about how he feels about Eskimos.
03:29:40 Cipher says.
03:29:41 There absolutely was a pre Mestizo civilization which had died out much prior to the Prairie dwellers. We have later encountered. Yeah, absolutely.
03:29:51 No question about it.
03:29:53 Cipher again.
03:30:08 Well, you wanted to return the duck, but instead you got murderous, swamp ape, murderous.
03:30:15 Swamp.
03:30:16 Who's Joe?
03:30:17 Hey, Devin, just because nobody mentioned this stream, I gotta step up and say do a stream on the Bronx tale. I guess that's become like a thing. The longer I don't.
03:30:26 It though.
03:30:30 The better it'll feel if I ever do it.
03:30:33 Core pop the bad dude.
03:30:34 Holy shit, you're advocating for mandatory military service. As a former Yugoslavian you Sir just gave me a chubby. No homo.
03:30:43 Well, I just think it would in a in the right society.
03:30:47 Societal conditions.
03:30:48 It would be.
03:30:49 That would be an appropriate thing to do, like right?
03:30:52 Like it would just be mandatory Israeli service in a way. You know, you'd just be dying for Israel mandatorily, but is that a word mandatorily? But yeah.
03:31:04 So right now it would be horrible. But you know, the right society would be.
03:31:09 Cipher says compulsory.
03:31:11 Or maybe a volunteer military which guarantees citizenship not to meme Starship Troopers, but it seems like a good in Group civil selection mechanism.
03:31:21 Yeah, I wouldn't want to guarantee citizenship.
03:31:24 To just anyone that wants to come and serve our military, I kind of feel like that's part of how Rome fell apart.
03:31:31 All right.
03:31:33 We'll do one last.
03:31:33 Check over on Odyssey to make sure I didn't miss any new ones here.
03:31:42 Let's see here.
03:31:48 We got my lying eyes.
03:31:52 Nothing.
03:31:52 Continuing to make comparisons with me and atheist, it was unstoppable, apparently.
03:31:59 Urban quail farmer saying atheism unstoppable lost me when he cried and said anyone who doesn't support Israel is a terrorist.
03:32:07 That's a. That's a red flag.
03:32:10 And then my lying eyes again says FYI, atheism.
03:32:13 Is.
03:32:14 Why is this becoming atheism unstoppable?
03:32:18 Dad's house burned.
03:32:19 Eat shit, negro cuck Jew, lover. Someone doesn't like him.
03:32:24 And then.
03:32:28 My line eyes also expressing that he enjoys the.
03:32:32 The happenings in Los Angeles and hopes that the.
03:32:37 The fire finds fuel.
03:32:40 LON awfully.
03:33:00 More.
03:33:03 Never not be funny to me.
03:33:06 Lonnie says.
03:33:08 Just yesterday I couldn't find eggs in Ohio.
03:33:11 Heads up eggs.
03:33:14 You know.
03:33:14 You know, it's weird, I think.
03:33:15 Told this.
03:33:16 This was a few weeks ago.
03:33:19 I went to the store and eggs were like they were like crazy expensive like 7 bucks for like a dozen and.
03:33:27 I kind of feel crazy. I feel like what are these, like $1.99 like? Not that long ago. And I brought it up to the cashier.
03:33:35 I was like, hey, weren't these, like, way cheaper?
03:33:38 A little.
03:33:38 She's like, yeah, like 2 weeks ago they were.
03:33:40 Were or no she.
03:33:41 Like like 3 days ago. They were like 6.
03:33:43 And then before they were like 5 bucks, like, you know, few days before that.
03:33:47 And then she said that she had that her, like her friend or her.
03:33:51 Forget now, but like.
03:33:53 Either a friend or sister worked at a Walmart in a in a in a big city, and said that their people are shoplifting individual eggs.
03:34:04 Become one of the most shoplifted items.
03:34:08 So I don't know what's going on with fucking eggs, but you know.
03:34:12 Yeah, they ain't cheap anymore, apparently.
03:34:16 Griselle graybeard.
03:34:18 Cash flow check out.
03:34:25 I'd like to return this duck.
03:34:27 There's that duck griselle greybeard.
03:34:30 My small Christian middle school had to share our forest campground with an engine school.
03:34:37 I think my Keebler family has some splinting to do.
03:34:42 I was the only student that was faster, stronger.
03:34:46 And and hide that hide than hide them.
03:34:51 I don't know what that part means. They canoed better though.
03:34:55 Well, there you go. Griselle greybeard.
03:34:59 The of Quebec, part of the Quebecois. All right, guys.
03:35:05 Hope you enjoyed this evening. I know. Apparently there was.
03:35:09 Apparently we pissed someone off.
03:35:14 Pissed someone off.
03:35:16 Stuff.
03:35:17 You know someone that looks like.
03:35:18 So someone whose ancestors look like this got really angry.
03:35:24 Probably not again.
03:35:25 Computers.
03:35:26 So someone who wished their ancestors looked like this got very angry.
03:35:32 But be that as it may.
03:35:33 Appreciate guys coming by and.
03:35:37 And and sitting around the campfire with with me this.
03:35:42 This this frontier that we're exploring.
03:35:46 Train while dodging arrows.
03:35:50 In the meantime, for Black Pilled I.
03:35:51 Of course.
03:35:54 Devon stack.
03:35:56 You.
03:35:58 I don't know Tomahawks.
03:35:59 I don't know.
03:36:00 Is that right?
03:36:01 Oh.
03:36:02 So.
03:36:03 So so so.
03:36:08 So what?
03:36:09 So what? So come.
03:36:20 So quite often.
03:36:31 I.