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INSOMNIA STREAM: THE MODERN FAMILY EDITION.mp3

03/01/2025
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Devon Stack
00:08:49 Welcome to the insomnia stream. The Modern Family edition.
00:08:56 Not about the TV show fact.
00:08:59 Almost didn't call it.
00:09:00 So the people I think it's about.
00:09:01 The Degenerate TV show, but in a sense it kind of is.
00:09:06 I mean, it's about what led up to that TV show called Modern Family.
00:09:12 A family being so normalized and becoming something that would people would watch in prime time television.
00:09:20 You know, people act like it's some kind of new thing, you know, and you see the conservatives as they they welcome the gay bees to people like Dave Rubin.
00:09:31 And they say, like, oh, that's crazy.
00:09:34 Conservatives have really fallen up and they have don't even.
00:09:37 It's just it's taken much longer than they. I think a lot of people realize, like it's been going on a long fucking time and there's still to this day, people that look to me.
00:09:48 The first sign that either you weren't alive during the 90s or you were an infant. When you say things like we need to go back to the 90s before racism and.
00:09:57 And and fags, it's like really.
00:09:59 Nah. Just because you were seven and you had responsible parents that insulated you from.
00:10:11 The fags and the nigs.
00:10:12 It doesn't mean it wasn't bad and you know. Hello, Race riots, race riots and gay people everywhere.
00:10:20 Was.
00:10:21 There were trannies. All that stuff exist in the 90s. It just was in your face. Quite yet. Now part of that was.
00:10:29 There were still.
00:10:31 Organs and institutions of censorship, quite frankly.
00:10:35 That's part of what it was.
00:10:37 There was still enough pushback from groups that would write letters to the FCC, and that's the other thing that mattered, right? A networks were beholden to the FCC to some extent, you know, at least if they were over the air. And that was rapidly changing as a result.
00:10:54 Cable television.
00:10:56 The FCC no longer had any kind of control over the content because they didn't have any jurisdiction over what went over cable lines that you were paying to have.
00:11:10 In your house. Same thing with satellite.
00:11:12 Same thing with.
00:11:14 You know the FCC can't pull Netflix's broadcast license.
00:11:20 They don't have one.
00:11:22 And so all this stuff that was happening, it was happening in in terms of media and television and movies, all this normalization and gay stuff. It actually had an interesting effect because it meant that it would it it affected the rich people first.
00:11:40 It affected the culture of the higher income people first, because the people who couldn't afford cable or couldn't afford these.
00:11:52 Non free forms of of video and whatnot.
00:11:55 They were the ones that were propagandized first, and so they're the ones that started to have these liberal views of what it meant to have a family and and maybe it was okay to be a fag and yeah, fuck it. Maybe they should have kids.
00:12:11 And so that influenced the the classes beneath them because they looked up to those people and and if that, you know, look if you, you know, they say dress for the job that you want, not the one.
00:12:22 You.
00:12:22 Right. And people will often do.
00:12:25 Well, just think of it this way.
00:12:28 A version of this.
00:12:29 All the maga grifters that over the last few days we're celebrating the stupid non release of the Epstein files, acting like trying to play it off.
00:12:40 Oh.
00:12:40 They really like kind of like when Trump tried to playoff that he released the JFK files during his first admin.
00:12:46 Oh look, we released the Epstein files.
00:12:48 Oh, and even though they all fucking knew that that was bullshit, because that they want access, they want to be invited to the White House.
00:12:56 Want to be one of those?
00:12:59 Shit. Shit influencers.
00:13:01 They're waving the fucking binder over their head and tap dancing around like faggots.
00:13:05 They want to those people.
00:13:08 They want to be those people or another example. In recent news, you know, like when when Ashley Sinclair was like, oh, I'm going to have Elon's baby and no one knew that there was there was they thought that was it. They they took her her tweet at face value.
00:13:25 All these, all these Twitter influencers that really want Elon to one day apply to one of their posts with wow or interesting or something like that.
00:13:36 So they're all like, congratulated. Oh, that's great.
00:13:38 That's great.
00:13:39 Oh my God, that's amazing.
00:13:41 That's amazing.
00:13:42 Having these weird IVF babies with like 30 different women.
00:13:45 Fine, that's great.
00:13:47 And then as soon as they found out that there was some kind of.
00:13:50 Involved.
00:13:50 Elon went like. Nah, it all changed.
00:13:53 It was bad now of a sudden.
00:13:56 Because that's how it works.
00:13:58 That's how it fucking works.
00:14:00 Lots of people want to suck up to every whoever they think can actually do something for them and give give them something that's not a new thing.
00:14:10 It's a fairly fairly old.
00:14:13 Human can part of the human condition to want to suck up to the rich people and.
00:14:21 Conform to whatever they think their value system is.
00:14:23 In fact, that's why you you'll even see a lot of people who hated Trump.
00:14:30 Who now see that he's accepted by billionaires all the sudden now?
00:14:34 You know, Trump's not so bad.
00:14:38 They thought it was the popular thing to hate him.
00:14:41 And now that it's the popular thing to love him, they're like, yeah, like him, he's not so bad.
00:14:47 So that's that's just the way that it is.
00:14:50 And likewise you have this sort of normalization in media, but one of the first examples I could find of them really pushing, in fact, maybe the first example at least.
00:15:04 As far as I'm aware that this is the first example in media where they were pushing a real.
00:15:11 Real world poster.
00:15:14 Quite literally, for gay people raising children.
00:15:19 And it had everything, folks.
00:15:21 It had everything.
00:15:22 It.
00:15:23 They didn't have to pick what should we show a lesbian couple?
00:15:27 Raising a kid, or should we show fags like these, these gay dudes raising a kid?
00:15:33 Which one?
00:15:34 No, they went for the they somehow got it all in one package.
00:15:39 They got it all in one package and they advertised it to the world using several different media outlets and a book which we'll get into in a moment.
00:15:49 And this is as early as 1988.
00:15:53 Or at least and maybe even.
00:15:55 But the the first show we're going to watch clips of this, this.
00:16:00 I mean, I don't even know what to call it this abomination.
00:16:05 It's it's from 1988 and so you have 1988.
00:16:10 They're already pushing the idea that lesbians and gay couples can raise children just totally fine and.
00:16:20 There's literally no difference.
00:16:22 And the pushback from the audience and from the people who are supposed to be representative of of the everyman, you know, in forms of callers which are who knows how, how screened they are, or how faked it is, it doesn't matter.
00:16:39 The perception from the people at home that are watching these TV shows usually.
00:16:44 Lives.
00:16:45 Is that huh?
00:16:47 I guess this is normal now, because women especially are sensitive to this.
00:16:52 Women especially are sensitive to, well. I should conform my values to meet the the expectations of people who are higher up than I am in the social hierarchy because I would like to join them someday.
00:17:08 And if I one of the things that'll prevent that from ever happening is if I have contrary ideas.
00:17:16 I I won't fit in.
00:17:18 So in preparation of Maine fitting into this upper class that I aspire to, I must make sure that we conform to these ideals.
00:17:27 And so the housewives would watch these shows that we've talked about different shows, lots of daytime, and many of them are involved with this.
00:17:36 Propaganda campaign.
00:17:39 They watch these talk shows and figure out what they what they feel about racism or about immigrants.
00:17:47 Fags and that way, when they when they're and while all the while their husbands away at work. And that way when their children come home from school while the husband's still away at work, they can they can imprint those values.
00:18:03 Onto their children.
00:18:04 And so that's basically that's basically what what was going on with daytime television with in the form of these talk shows. And that is what we're.
00:18:13 To see.
00:18:15 Here with this.
00:18:17 Again, I don't even know what to call it.
00:18:19 It's kind of at this.
00:18:21 Changes.
00:18:23 As as the campaign goes on in in the in the, I guess the initial rollout in the initial rollout of this.
00:18:33 Arrangement of gay people raising a child it was a throuple of sorts.
00:18:42 A throuple of sorts, but we'll get into the nitty gritty here in a moment. Here is how.
00:18:50 They were.
00:18:50 They were tantalized.
00:18:53 That's the other thing that there's a lot you look at the audience members when they do the reaction shots and a lot of it's it's the same fucking dumbfounded, amused.
00:19:03 Looks on people's faces in this environment of anything goes.
00:19:09 It's after the 60s and after the 70s, and it's now the.
00:19:13 Where all the wild boundaries that were being pushed and stretched in the previous decades, they don't even exist now.
00:19:20 We now live in this weird Wonderland of possibilities that everyone wants to go back to right in the 80s and 90s where everything was possible and everything was OK and there were no standards and therefore there couldn't be any arguments because no one could be held to any.
00:19:37 Of standard.
00:19:38 So what's their argument about?
00:19:40 You could literally be any.
00:19:41 And it wouldn't matter.
00:19:43 All this acceptance, all this tolerance had finally borne fruit.
00:19:49 And then that's what gave birth to what the situation we live in today and people want to go back to that.
00:19:55 They want to go back to that.
00:19:58 They want to go back to see what they don't understand is we are now in the the the hangover phase of a wild fucking party and they want to go back to. I want this hangover.
00:20:10 Can't it always just be?
00:20:13 The middle of.
00:20:13 The party, when I'm I'm at peak.
00:20:16 I'm just drunk enough right till I'm riding the fucking bus. But I'm not too drunk yet.
00:20:22 Like I'm not stumbling around and and and throwing up on shed and I'm not getting in my car and killing a family on the way home or you know nothing that it's not bad yet.
00:20:34 I.
00:20:35 I want to stay in that little that, that zone of the perfect high.
00:20:40 I'm just high enough, but not too high.
00:20:44 Where I don't think about the problems that I have in real life. I don't think about anything that's going wrong.
00:20:50 Fact I don't think about much of anything.
00:20:52 'S funny and.
00:20:54 All these really boring, stupid people.
00:20:57 I get along with them.
00:20:58 Great. When I'm in this state.
00:21:00 I don't I I can totally overlook the fact that they're all fucking degenerate morons and horrible people because everything's fine.
00:21:08 Everything's fine.
00:21:09 And that's what we should go back to as a country and as a people.
00:21:13 We need to go back to.
00:21:15 That's what they're saying.
00:21:16 And so when you look at these shots, these these shots of the audience, these shots of of amusement and even the people that try.
00:21:23 Push back.
00:21:25 Using arguments that never work because most of them are rooted in some weird judeo-christian. Quite literally, some will say that.
00:21:33 Value system that really can be mushed around. And again because there's no, there's no standardization even of that you can interpret however you want to to make it OK.
00:21:44 Me.
00:21:46 Which?
00:21:46 We'll see examples of here in a moment, so here is again, this is 1988.
00:21:54 The name of this show was, I think it was called talk back.
00:21:57 Not a very big one.
00:21:58 Think it was.
00:21:58 I think it was local to to California, but it must have been syndicated because one of the callers makes some comment about California, but I'd never seen it before.
00:22:09 It was pretty small time, some wannabe Oprah.
00:22:12 But without further ado.
00:22:15 Here's how they open it.
Wannabe Oprah
00:22:17 We are going to have an exciting show this.
00:22:19 I cannot imagine once we get started that you are not going to have some feelings about this.
00:22:24 Being a parent is.
00:22:26 No matter how you slice it, a lot of people are doing it.
00:22:29 There are still some whole families in the sense that we are accustomed to them.
00:22:34 More and more, however, there are some unusual combinations of people who are raising children, and this morning you are going to meet a family.
00:22:41 Me introduce you first to Joy Schulenburg.
00:22:45 Next to her, Jeff Wooster.
00:22:48 And Bert Lacombe, now they are parents of five year old.
00:22:53 They are also homosexuals, and this morning we are going to find out how this unusual family group works together.
00:22:59 You see them with.
00:23:00 Welcome to all of you. Thank you.
Devon Stack
00:23:03 Now, before you say before.
00:23:08 Schulenburg.
00:23:11 I don't know if she's Jewish.
00:23:13 She in fact says she's Christian in this interview.
00:23:18 It's you bird with a U. Usually the the the Jews are bird with an E so I don't think that she's Jewish.
00:23:29 So just just to just to clarify, I do think that she was in love with a gay man and found a sneaky way to have a gay man's baby.
00:23:48 But we'll just anyway.
00:23:51 We'll, we'll, we'll.
00:23:53 I also think there's plenty of proof in this, just in her comments in the comments of other lesbians that support the theory that lesbians don't exist.
00:24:05 Anyway, here we go.
Wannabe Oprah
00:24:07 Start first with you joy and when you first knew that you were gay and what your thoughts were about, what kind of life you thought you'd live.
Joy Schulenburg
00:24:16 Well, I guess it's it's always hard to pinpoint these things.
00:24:20 Know it's one of.
00:24:21 You know you're different, I guess, around the age of 14 or 15. And it's when I really knew. And at that point I assumed I'd be a fairly solitary person or a person with, you know, a lesbian partner.
00:24:34 And I did not.
00:24:35 In no way was the concept of the possibility of having a family.
00:24:41 Even though it was appealing, it just wasn't part of my future picture for myself because I didn't have any role models.
Devon Stack
00:24:46 Ah.
00:24:47 Well, you.
00:24:47 Have any role models and you were unattractive and fat and so you didn't have anyone that want that paid you any attention like most lesbians.
00:24:57 And so that's what appealed to.
00:24:59 Your future was not looking bright in terms of procreating and the guy that you liked was was a fag.
00:25:06 Which we'll get into here in a moment.
00:25:09 So this is the the, the, the mother.
00:25:13 Joy Schulenburg.
Wannabe Oprah
00:25:16 I would guess that you were 14 when maybe in the early 70s.
Joy Schulenburg
00:25:20 Oh, makes sense.
Wannabe Oprah
00:25:21 Late 60s. All right, so you.
00:25:23 Having these feelings at a time that a lot was being talked about in society.
00:25:27 There were probably.
00:25:29 Women coming out than men at any time since.
00:25:32 Before did.
00:25:33 Were you getting any support?
Joy Schulenburg
00:25:35 Oh.
00:25:36 I mean, for example Jeff not known each other since we were teenagers and I was one of the very fortunate people who had a peer group.
00:25:44 Gay and lesbian peer group in high schools.
Devon Stack
00:25:47 Oh yeah, we're getting that a second because it just like with the trans kid stuff, it became cool.
00:25:54 It became cool to be a fag.
00:25:56 The boomers made.
00:25:58 See this is you guys want to go back to the 90s.
00:26:00 This was the 60s, she said.
00:26:03 Was.
00:26:03 This she was full on Boomer. She was 14 in the late 60s.
00:26:09 So.
00:26:09 She's 14, and so we're talking late 60s, early 70s.
00:26:13 Being gay is super cool and all of a sudden, just like with the trans kid, like all the sudden there's like, you know, we go from zero trannies pretty much to oh, there's like 4 in every class.
00:26:27 Oh, this actress adopted at random 4 kids. And like all four of them are trannies.
00:26:33 You know that sort of shit.
00:26:34 What are the chances?
00:26:37 Well, with her it's the same thing. Oh, I had, you know, didn't really see a future in terms of having kids because, you know, I was this fat ugly bitch and all my friends ended up being gay all at the same time. Somehow is weird.
Joy Schulenburg
00:26:54 But I didn't really have any positive role models.
Wannabe Oprah
00:26:56 How about your family?
00:26:57 Mean were they?
Joy Schulenburg
00:26:58 My family again were all very fortunate, but.
Devon Stack
00:27:03 They don't really talk.
00:27:04 They try to gloss it.
00:27:06 They try to make it sound because this is 100% of propaganda campaign.
00:27:10 It's 100% of propaganda campaign.
00:27:12 They try so hard to make it sound like.
00:27:15 There's nothing weird at home, but they don't seem to be very explicit in terms of mentioning their fathers and just the way that she said she didn't have any role models.
00:27:25 Well, that's weird. If you had a wonderful upbringing, from the support of great parents. Ah.
00:27:32 Yeah, that would be the first people that would come to mind, right?
00:27:37 Or someone.
00:27:38 I mean, you can't if you say you had.
00:27:39 Zero role models.
00:27:42 That's that's very telling.
00:27:44 That's very telling.
00:27:45 And the fact that she actually, I don't think ever.
00:27:49 Her dad.
00:27:51 And the other, the two fags are also kind of like.
00:27:55 Know they.
00:27:56 They're a little dicey when it comes to they try to make it sound like, Oh yeah, our parents were super supportive about it.
00:28:02 But yeah, I don't know the.
00:28:05 Specially with her though, you get the sense.
00:28:07 Now moving right along.
Joy Schulenburg
00:28:09 My family's always been very.
00:28:11 My mother is key response. When she found out was at least I don't have to worry about you coming home pregnant before you know before you're grown.
Devon Stack
00:28:22 Funny thing is that is still shocking.
00:28:25 In 1988, I mean, you're you're on.
00:28:27 A show where.
00:28:28 You're featuring a lesbian who has had a child with two.
00:28:33 We'll get into the details in a second, and she is still embarrassed and shocked by the woman mentioning teen pregnancy.
00:28:45 Like in 1988.
00:28:48 Teen pregnancy was still a taboo, so she she blushes.
00:28:53 And whoa, that's.
00:28:55 That's oh, I can't believe your your mom would have said that.
00:28:58 Also tells you.
00:28:59 Kind of household that she was from.
Jeff Wooster
00:29:01 I mean I I.
00:29:03 I came out about the time I was 14, two, whenever I realized what it was, I thought I invented homosexuality.
00:29:10 I was very thrilled to find out there was other people in the world like this.
00:29:13 But joy and I have been close friends, and suddenly half of the friends I knew kind of all came out at the same time.
00:29:15 Target.
00:29:21 We had a very good supportive peer group.
Devon Stack
00:29:23 Oh weird, weird. Weird.
00:29:27 So I get age 14 like all of your friends figured out they were gay all at the same time.
00:29:33 See this is the same this. This is how.
00:29:36 Always been.
00:29:37 This is how this shit has always been.
00:29:41 It's not genetic, it's not genetic.
00:29:45 It's its environmental.
00:29:48 Now you can say maybe. Maybe there's genetic factors in the same way there's genetic factors when it comes to alcoholism.
00:29:56 Whether some people that probably shouldn't drink because if they drink, then they'll be more susceptible to alcoholism and so maybe there's something like that.
00:30:07 Maybe I'll grant you that.
00:30:11 But let's not pretend that these all these genetic fags.
00:30:17 Were gravitated.
00:30:18 They all gravitated towards each other through some mystical gaydar that, before they even knew what being gay was. According to him he thought he invented it.
00:30:29 And they all came out as gay all at the same time.
00:30:35 Yeah. So basically I think what happened here is is joy, the hand planted on the left there.
00:30:44 Really, really wanted to get her some of that really was crushed to find out that he was gay and not to be outdone by all of her other friends that were like.
00:30:54 Gay too.
00:30:55 She's like, so am I.
00:30:58 I'm gay too.
00:30:59 I'm like everybody else.
00:31:01 I'm just like, you know, the the housewife at home that's trying to submit to the peer pressure that is being applied with this television show she was submitting to the peer pressure of her friend group and the.
00:31:16 Propaganda of the 60s and 70s.
00:31:20 Telling everyone to be a fag. I mean the the, the host even said more people were coming out at that time.
00:31:30 Than before or since.
00:31:33 So she's saying that essentially there there were more fags coming out in the the late 60s, early 70s than in 1988, when she's doing the show.
00:31:46 When I would submit to you, obviously it's it's more common or it's more acceptable or else the show would never.
00:31:52 Show would never have aired in 1968, but it show it aired in 1988.
Wannabe Oprah
00:31:59 A little bit later. I mean, did did you meet these two as friends and were they friends?
Bert Lacombe
00:32:04 I met Jeffrey when I was 18.
00:32:08 Had moved down to my.
00:32:10 They lived in Chicago and I lived in downstate Illinois.
00:32:13 And he he was always with my best friend. And that's how I happened to meet Jeff. And then I met joy through Jeff and then I moved to San Francisco. And then.
00:32:23 They all followed suit.
Devon Stack
00:32:27 Oh, they all moved to the gay capital of the world, San.
00:32:30 Actually, it's not the gay capital of the world, I think Tel Aviv is like, no, not a joke.
00:32:36 I think Tel Aviv has more fags per capita than San Francisco.
00:32:42 DC is pretty super gay, too. I mean, now that now that Trump's president is probably even gayer than.
00:32:47 But I mean it.
00:32:48 It was super fucking gay when I lived out there.
00:32:51 Super fucking gay. It was like it was the first time I in my life I'd lived somewhere where there were so many fags.
00:32:59 Always bumping into fags.
00:33:02 Like anywhere you went, like if you're staying in line at Starbucks, there was some fucking whining faggot in front of you in line complaining to the barista about fucking nothing.
00:33:10 Or if you were sitting on the metro on your way to work, there was always some fucking fag you know complaining about something.
00:33:17 You were just surrounded in DC.
00:33:22 San Francisco, I mean, I don't know in terms of numbers.
00:33:25 I mean, there's neighborhoods where it's almost like 100% fag.
00:33:28 But in 1988? Yeah, I'd say at least that was the the perception of Americans.
00:33:34 Was that San Francisco is home of the fags.
Wannabe Oprah
00:33:39 Now, before was it before you decided to have the child that that Jeff and Burt became lovers shortly before?
Joy Schulenburg
00:33:44 So it went from.
Wannabe Oprah
00:33:47 Did you ever feel? I mean like odd person out in that relationship here, these two people that you live with, falling in love and you are not.
00:33:54 In love with either of.
Joy Schulenburg
00:33:55 Them oh I.
00:33:56 I mean and to some extent, I still do envy their emotional bond.
00:34:02 You know the the fulfillment that they get out of that. You know that's the one part of my life that isn't really that fulfilled over my life. So busy that it's a small part.
00:34:12 Yet you know, there are times I look at and go.
00:34:13 I'd love to have what they have.
Devon Stack
00:34:15 Yeah, I I bet you would. I.
00:34:18 And she did.
00:34:20 She did get what they had.
00:34:25 But I get I I I you are a fucking fat fag hag that wanted to get with the fag.
00:34:33 And you were tagging along. You were tagging along, looking for your opportunity.
00:34:39 Oh, I'll have to.
00:34:41 I have to hand it to you.
00:34:43 Found it here.
00:34:44 Found it by the way. Why is Gene Hackman?
00:34:47 The audience where where is it?
00:34:50 There we go.
00:34:55 Anyway, the ghost of Gene Hackman haunting us from from beyond the grave, anyway.
Wannabe Oprah
00:35:05 So how long was it from the time in the park until you said? All right, we are going to have a child.
00:35:10 Going to try to have a child together.
Joy Schulenburg
00:35:11 Few weeks maybe.
00:35:13 And then it wasn't very long after.
00:35:14 I mean, you know, essentially the way I look at it, I I thought my experience has been that when you try and have a baby, when you're trying to conceive, it takes forever.
00:35:23 Only when you're not trying. Well, while I figure we have to.
00:35:26 For a while.
Devon Stack
00:35:28 Yeah, I bet you you wanted to practice.
00:35:31 So she then goes into detail. Basically Long story short, 'cause you don't want to hear the long version.
00:35:40 She convinced them that while the only way this will work out if we have a baby and so there's not jealousies or weird things like that, you can't know which one's the father. So you both have to bang me.
00:35:55 You you both have to bang me.
00:35:57 And then when I get pregnant, we won't know which one of you it was.
00:36:02 And so you'll both treat it like it is your kid.
00:36:05 It could be like that.
00:36:08 What? That's what they did.
00:36:10 Is she convinced the two gay dudes to fuck her? Apparently again.
00:36:16 Some, like, somehow they're gay.
00:36:19 She's a lesbian.
00:36:21 Artificial insemination exists at this point, by the way.
00:36:25 But instead they had weird, ugly girl orgy.
00:36:31 And yeah, until she got pregnant.
00:36:37 So that was the that's the beautiful origin story.
Wannabe Oprah
00:36:43 For me to imagine how you decide fairly at not academically, but clinically in a way.
00:36:50 Fine. You're going to have a.
00:36:51 You have these two men and you say let's flip a coin and we decide who's going to try it first.
00:36:56 Mean I cannot even begin to imagine how.
00:36:59 Do that now.
Joy Schulenburg
00:36:59 That's I think that was part of the the overall bond of intimacy and friendship.
00:37:04 Didn't coins we simply.
Wannabe Oprah
00:37:07 Had you slept with either of them before left?
Joy Schulenburg
00:37:09 No, not not probably.
Wannabe Oprah
00:37:12 Did you get to that first time?
00:37:14 Mean.
Jeff Wooster
00:37:15 Oh.
00:37:15 It just kind of.
00:37:16 Naturally, like it doesn't any relationship relationship build?
Bert Lacombe
00:37:17 We were watching Romeo and J1 night.
Wannabe Oprah
00:37:21 I believe that.
00:37:21 That's.
Bert Lacombe
00:37:22 What happened? That's what happened.
Devon Stack
00:37:25 Oh, that's what happened.
00:37:29 So they.
00:37:32 Yeah. So they ran a train on her and you know.
Jeff Wooster
00:37:38 Was a three-way relationship.
Bert Lacombe
00:37:40 We were all bonding together to establish our family ties.
Wannabe Oprah
00:37:46 Joy is now.
00:37:48 Did you have a clue as to who the father?
00:37:50 Was there any intention to make one or the other of your father?
00:37:51 No.
Jeff Wooster
00:37:53 No, we didn't have a clue and we didn't want a clue.
Wannabe Oprah
00:37:53 You know like.
00:37:55 Know do you know now?
00:37:56 Out of curiosity.
00:37:57 No.
Devon Stack
00:37:58 No, we have no idea now.
00:38:00 The.
00:38:00 You take a look at these audience members now. Gene Hackman is is thoroughly disgusted.
00:38:10 Gene Hackman looks like he wants to to rise from the grave with zombie zombie Gene Hackman strength and just run up there and and and scream.
00:38:26 Over.
00:38:26 And over and over again and.
00:38:30 And strangle them.
00:38:35 Is Manish looking wife?
00:38:37 I'm assuming that's his wife on the left.
00:38:40 She's also in a state of disgust.
00:38:44 But there's the rest of the crowd.
00:38:48 There's a look of amusement.
00:38:51 They're amused.
00:38:52 How amusing.
00:38:54 How amusing I might.
00:38:56 Social embarrassment right now because I was raised to believe in a different value system.
00:39:03 But how great it is that we live in this world of infinite freedom?
00:39:09 This libertarian world, where there's no judgments.
00:39:14 Were the worst thing a person can do is be judgmental.
00:39:22 Where even people who are not religious.
00:39:26 Are familiar with that old biblical saying. He without sin throw the first stone.
00:39:36 Right. Because if you're doing anything wrong at all and you call out the evil.
00:39:45 Externally in the environment around you, well, that makes you a hypocrite.
00:39:52 That makes you a hypocrite.
00:39:53 And because nobody is without sin.
00:39:57 Well, then you really can't call anything out.
00:40:02 You should be working on yourself.
00:40:05 Here you are bitching and moaning about all these faggots walking around and look at you. You're not perfect.
00:40:16 And so they realize.
00:40:18 They realize the wisdom of this, and they're so happy about this.
00:40:26 This lack of boundaries.
00:40:28 And it's entertainment.
00:40:32 It's.
00:40:33 It's an oddity.
00:40:38 So that couple in the middle.
00:40:42 It's, you know.
00:40:43 These might be nervous smiles.
00:40:47 These might be the smiles of, of discomfort, but their smiles.
00:40:53 They are amused.
00:40:55 They they are entertained.
00:40:59 That bottom group, there's somewhere in the middle of the Gene Hackman.
00:41:05 Family and and the couple above them.
00:41:10 You've got the the the banana mom with the.
00:41:16 The bad hair dye.
00:41:19 And the very very yellow jacket power jacket.
00:41:19 A.
00:41:23 Who you can tell is is unhappy with what she's seen, but her mind is struggling right now.
00:41:30 This is the kind of woman who, on a personal level, probably finds this detestable.
00:41:38 Probably finds this disgusting.
00:41:42 But her software?
00:41:45 It knows it needs an update.
00:41:49 She knows just because there's an error message.
00:41:53 Doesn't mean that there's something wrong with them.
00:41:57 It's something wrong with her?
00:41:59 She asked to get the latest update so that she doesn't have an error message pop up when she encounters things like this in the.
00:42:07 Real world.
00:42:10 The woman next to her is so high on Big Macs, she's out to fucking lunch.
00:42:16 'Cause, that's the other thing you'll notice about this about this audience.
00:42:21 The BMI is not exactly within the normal range.
00:42:26 Lot of fat and happy Americans.
00:42:30 Just lazily lounging in the audience, taking it all in.
00:42:36 Because like I said, it's entertainment.
00:42:39 It's entertainment.
00:42:41 Ah, this is weird. It's so titillating.
00:42:47 Oh, it's so titillating when they talk about how they had the three-way whoo Hoo so titillating.
00:42:57 Makes my life seem exciting.
Bert Lacombe
00:43:00 I mean, it's odd that there's three of us, but otherwise she watches.
00:43:05 I mean, we would sit down and watch The Golden Girls, you know, in the evening and have the.
00:43:10 Channel see.
Devon Stack
00:43:10 But.
00:43:14 We're normal, just like you. We watch the same TV shows.
00:43:20 They know their audience.
00:43:25 No, we're a normal family.
00:43:27 We watch this, the popular television shows that you watch.
00:43:35 I mean at this point.
00:43:36 Might as well say we go to.
00:43:38 The same church.
00:43:39 How could our value system be that much?
00:43:42 We go to the same church on Sundays. The Church of Shira and Disney Channel.
00:43:55 Disney Channel, which is now basically like the gay kids channel.
00:44:01 But in 1988 was viewed as something very safe and rated G.
00:44:11 Who are just like you in this new environment, this environment in 1988 where Americans really don't have anything in common with each other anymore.
00:44:21 Anything that you can grasp at anything that.
00:44:24 You can be.
00:44:25 Oh, OK. Oh, thank God. There's something your kid watches Shira.
00:44:31 Wow. All right.
00:44:34 I can.
00:44:35 I can relate to that.
00:44:36 Oh yeah, my my little, my little Susie over there.
00:44:40 Watches the Shira too.
00:44:48 What else did Americans have in common?
00:44:55 I'm gonna guess they all like McDonald's too, right?
00:45:00 Especially joy.
Wannabe Oprah
00:45:03 She has one person to call Mama.
Bert Lacombe
00:45:05 Yeah, pop and daddy.
Wannabe Oprah
00:45:05 She has two people to call.
00:45:09 All.
00:45:09 And she is not confused.
00:45:10 Five years.
00:45:11 She's talking has.
00:45:12 Not yet come home from did she go to daycare, place school preschool and say.
Joy Schulenburg
00:45:15 Yeah.
Wannabe Oprah
00:45:18 Not everybody has 2 daddies.
00:45:20 Has that come up?
Jeff Wooster
00:45:21 She she kind of, she said to us.
00:45:24 Do Papas die a lot because she realized that her friends don't have a daddy and a Papa?
Wannabe Oprah
00:45:32 All right, so she thought maybe they were missing.
Bert Lacombe
00:45:34 She thought that most kids came from a broken home because only most kids only have.
Jeff Wooster
00:45:35 1.
00:45:35 They had broken homes.
00:45:38 That was her first concept of.
Devon Stack
00:45:41 See if anything her families actually better the normal families. According to this innocent child.
00:45:51 They're the ones that that are like broken homes.
00:45:55 Because she lives in a household with a Mama, a daddy and a Papa.
00:46:02 How come no one else has a Papa?
00:46:05 I've got a daddy and a Papa.
Wannabe Oprah
00:46:11 Is it certainly must be coming up along about now when people say there are two men.
00:46:15 Mm.
00:46:17 That one of the issues is that there are two gay men and that people now, of course are worried about AIDS and they say, should we let our child go over?
Jeff Wooster
00:46:18 Yes.
Wannabe Oprah
00:46:25 And catch something.
Bert Lacombe
00:46:26 Who's there?
Joy Schulenburg
00:46:26 I I think basically that that's.
00:46:28 And absurdity and most people, you have to realize we live in San Francisco.
00:46:32 Most people are well.
00:46:34 They recognize that AIDS is not casually transmitted disease and that AIDS is not transmitted by any means that is common between an adult and a child.
00:46:44 I think you know that the women said.
00:46:45 Off I can't stress that strongly enough.
Wannabe Oprah
00:46:48 So you're dealing with people who have a level of sophistication that allows them not to be caring.
Joy Schulenburg
00:46:51 Then we very carefully.
00:46:55 You know, chosen a school, a preschool environment that supports that.
00:46:59 Biracial. It's bilingual. It's, you know, anti.
Bert Lacombe
00:47:04 Not bisexual, but.
Wannabe Oprah
00:47:05 Well, with you there.
Devon Stack
00:47:07 Yeah, I guess I guess.
00:47:08 Yes, it is, isn't it?
00:47:10 And isn't that funny how those go hand in hand?
00:47:17 I guess if you're trying to undermine and destroy the white patriarchy, I guess it does kind of go hand in hand.
00:47:28 Right. One would think that Juan doesn't have anything to do with the other.
00:47:32 Is the what is racially mixed have to do with?
00:47:35 Well, it has a lot to do with it because again, it's it's a further erosion of of any normalcy.
00:47:45 It's it's the removal of any kind of universal standards for the country.
00:47:51 Oh no, it's.
00:47:52 We found a preschool that really doesn't have any kind of standards whatsoever.
00:47:56 Let anyone in.
00:48:03 After all, that's what Jews would have you believe.
00:48:06 Is.
00:48:07 It's just essentially a giant daycare that lets anyone in.
00:48:12 We don't care if you're gay or straight or brown, black, orange, retarded.
00:48:18 A murderer really doesn't fucking matter.
00:48:23 Bring us your trash. The Statue of Liberty says.
00:48:28 Bring us your trash.
00:48:30 And just dump it on the lawn.
00:48:41 Now I'm not sure why one of the this guy magically disappeared during a commercial break.
00:48:46 One of the fags disappeared.
00:48:47 He was fidgeting like a weirdo, though during the first bit, so I don't know if he had, like, a nervous breakdown or something.
00:48:53 Had to leave.
00:48:55 But.
00:48:56 Anyway.
David
00:48:59 Oh yes. My name is David.
00:49:01 Wondering.
00:49:02 Is the legal if who is registered as the legal father of of the girl.
00:49:07 And what are the long term plans as far as who's going to remain the father or the mother?
00:49:13 Did your guest have a a contract before the birth of the child?
Wannabe Oprah
00:49:18 Questions, yes.
Joy Schulenburg
00:49:19 No, and we should.
00:49:20 I do counseling with people who are considering having children, and probably the first thing I tell them is get a contract, go to a lawyer. However, we sort of.
00:49:30 We.
00:49:31 Broke a lot of ground.
Devon Stack
00:49:31 So here we.
00:49:32 People were uncomfortable and we'll get in a little more of that that she does counseling.
00:49:36 Basically, her job, see, isn't.
00:49:38 Isn't it amazing that they just they were watching Romeo and J1 night and they decided to have a kid, but her entire job is?
00:49:47 Promoting children for gay people.
00:49:50 That's literally.
00:49:51 That's her day job, and we'll get a little more in that a.
00:49:57 But even as she's talking about that look.
00:49:59 .
00:50:01 It's amusement.
00:50:04 Its amusement.
00:50:07 They can't believe what they're hearing.
00:50:10 But they're not mad about it.
00:50:13 They're smiling.
00:50:16 They're smiling uncomfortably and looking at each other. Like, are you fucking hearing this shit?
00:50:25 But there's no anger.
00:50:29 There's no rage, there's no attempt to stop.
00:50:33 And to the degree that there is, which we'll get into a moment in a moment it.
00:50:38 Falls falls flat almost immediately.
Joy Schulenburg
00:50:42 And we're not very sophisticated about this. So we don't have a contract we should in terms of who the father is.
00:50:50 We deliberately do not say we don't know who the biological father is. We want it that way.
Devon Stack
00:50:59 Yes indeed.
00:51:01 Yes indeed.
00:51:03 So now you get your first push back from a very Jewish looking Christian guy. Like I I thought for sure he was Jewish until he started mentioning Jesus.
00:51:14 Was like.
00:51:15 Oh, look at this Jew.
00:51:17 Why?
00:51:17 Why this Jew should love this shit?
00:51:21 So I don't know if he's like some.
00:51:22 Of.
00:51:23 Lebanese or?
00:51:24 I don't know what he is, but he looks super fucking Jewy.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:51:28 Let me preface what I'm about to say by saying that I understand that Salomon the Bay is a different circumstance, a different situation than much of the nation.
00:51:37 But let me preface that by saying this number one, your relationship mocks the law of God, the Law of God serves as the foundation for every successful society, when in fact the relationship violates those laws. We make our entire nation vulnerable to corruption from within as well as.
Jeff Wooster
00:51:39 This is done.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:51:53 And out number two.
00:51:55 Recently, the Supreme Court ruled.
00:51:56 Ruled that acts of sodomy are in fact not permitted or not protected under our Constitution.
00:52:02 Therefore, the three of you are involved in a criminal act which in fact erodes a child in an environment which engages in criminal activity, is in fact an affront to parenting.
Wannabe Oprah
00:52:13 OK, let me stop you, right.
00:52:14 I think you've made your point before you respond to the 1st.
00:52:17 Of what Peter said.
Devon Stack
00:52:19 So this guy tries to make the argument that look what you're doing is against God.
00:52:25 That's not going to work in San Francisco.
00:52:28 It's not going to work in the late 80s and certainly not going to work in the 90s because just like there is no longer any kind of racial solidarity in the country at this point, there's also no religious solidarity.
00:52:43 In fact, you are.
00:52:44 It probably one of the worst things you can do, even worse than maybe racism is to judge someone based on their religion.
00:52:55 Now that's the other thing that you'll hear about all the time is America was built on the the, the the concept of.
00:53:04 Freedom of religion.
00:53:07 There was the whole genesis.
00:53:10 That the founding story you had people persecuted for their religion, and so they left to make America. And when they came here, they said anything goes.
00:53:22 You can be whatever you want.
00:53:24 You can be a fucking satanist. It's fine.
00:53:31 And so Satanist took advantage of that. And, you know, 1988 Church of Satan actually was was alive and well.
00:53:41 But also well, you know, there was no religious solidarity as a result.
00:53:47 I mean, there was at first, but hundreds of years later, you let having no standards as to who you let in.
00:53:54 Your religious beliefs are a are irrelevant.
00:54:02 They're irrelevant.
00:54:02 They're just your opinion at that point.
00:54:05 Well, that's great that you're that your religion doesn't believe in this, but my religion says it's fine, so it's fine.
00:54:15 He then talks about the Supreme Court upholding a sodomy law in a state.
00:54:21 I forget what state it was, but there was they were challenging.
00:54:25 Is again people that want to go back to 90s.
00:54:28 They were little kids.
00:54:29 They didn't know that all this shit was fucking going on.
00:54:31 They were attempting to overturn sodomy laws in the 80s.
00:54:34 Weren't able to do it until.
00:54:36 What was it we've covered?
00:54:38 Here I think it was like 2002 weirdly and it was interracial sodomy that they that court.
00:54:44 Think it was from Texas or I forget, but that case overturned it, you know.
00:54:52 Not not.
00:54:52 Say, 15 years after this aired.
00:54:56 But in 88, the court upheld a ruling outlawing sodomy in a certain state and but it because it was left up to the states.
00:55:11 She's like, well, we're in California and it doesn't fucking matter what the Supreme Court ruled about sodomy and your interpretation of of Christianity is different than mine.
Wannabe Oprah
00:55:22 How do you respond to the fact that the Supreme Court has, in a sense ruled against your lifestyle?
Joy Schulenburg
00:55:27 By feeling that I believe the Supreme Court's decision is unconstitutional, that it presumes to judge private behavior, which I believe is against the 1st amendment.
00:55:39 I have very strong feelings about that to the Supreme Court did.
00:55:43 Not make a carte blanche ruling on sodomy itself.
00:55:48 It upheld a specific states law, which is not applicable to us living in California.
Wannabe Oprah
00:55:56 Right now that.
Devon Stack
00:56:00 I like how they think butt sex is is speech.
00:56:05 But why not?
00:56:06 Why wouldn't it be?
00:56:09 That's how they got pornography legalized. That's how they were able to strike down other regulations, all the profanity.
00:56:18 Laws that were that were or indecency laws that were making pornography difficult to impossible to get in many parts of the country.
00:56:30 But they went to the Supreme Court and they won because they said.
00:56:34 Was speech.
00:56:37 It's speech.
00:56:40 So if pornography speech, why wouldn't ask assfucking be speech?
00:56:48 Already you're seeing the beginnings of what, 2, two adults do.
00:56:52 Wait, I.
00:56:52 I get to use the button.
Libertarian
00:56:54 Does it really matter to grown consenting adults doing whatever they want to do is their business?
Devon Stack
00:57:04 Or three in this case.
00:57:09 See, that's what Maga still believes.
00:57:16 That's what they still believe.
00:57:27 At any rate.
Joy Schulenburg
00:57:30 The Lord Jesus Christ told us to love one another, and that that is the primary law by which I live, and I I will stand on that and not debate theology with a theologian.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:57:45 Let me just respond if I may, to the fact what Jesus said about loving where.
Wannabe Oprah
00:57:45 And.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:57:49 Another the word love, does not mean that we embrace another person sin or violation of his law. Love tells me that I am to separate you from your sin, and I would encourage you to discontinue that activity.
00:58:00 But the Third Point I would like to surface is that we recognize in the city of San Francisco a great number, in fact, close to 90% of the male homosexuals are in fact carrying the.
Joy Schulenburg
00:58:10 Antibody that's inaccurate.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:58:12 Are we in fact either one of the two of you gentlemen in a place where you're jeopardizing the opportunity for your daughter to be raised in environment where one of your going to die because of your behavior?
Joy Schulenburg
00:58:23 Of somebody dying in a car accident are extremely high.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:58:26 Are either one of these men carrying the AIDS antibiotics?
Joy Schulenburg
00:58:27 Now by.
00:58:28 Living in this.
00:58:29 World today, by living in a world today by living in a world where the government supports war and nuclear arms, as opposed to food for children and support for pregnant women, we are living in a world where children may live without parents.
00:58:45 Sounds good.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:58:45 Are either one of you carrying the AIDS antibody?
Jeff Wooster
00:58:48 Neither one of us.
00:58:49 And the antibody test has nothing medically to do with the idea getting AIDS or transmitting AIDS.
Jewy Christian Guy
00:58:53 Are you at all concerned about the risk involved?
Joy Schulenburg
00:58:56 No, because as I said earlier, AIDS is not.
00:58:59 Transmitted by the kind of contact that a parent and child have.
Devon Stack
00:59:04 Well, not a normal parent and child, but to answer your question, he did have aids and he died like just a few years after this aired.
00:59:16 The guy on the right died of AIDS.
00:59:20 In 1994, so literally six years later.
00:59:27 Dynamics so. So to answer your question there.
00:59:37 Yes, yes. One of them had aids. At least one of them had aids.
00:59:42 And yeah, I guess he's in the pit now.
00:59:47 Eternal pit. So.
00:59:55 I mean I.
00:59:58 Yeah. All right. So anyway.
01:00:02 Moving right along.
Jeff Wooster
01:00:05 The fact is, there has never been a case of a child getting aids from a parent other than in utero from a mother with AIDS or through mother's milk from a mother with AIDS or through a blood transfusion in a hospital.
01:00:18 Those are the only cases of children getting AIDS and this is 2 day old information.
Devon Stack
01:00:24 Ah, yes, yes, but.
01:00:29 Uh, he still died of AIDS.
01:00:31 So.
01:00:33 And here's the other thing.
01:00:34 Notice how it's it's a.
01:00:36 The whole scenario is it's perfect for what they.
01:00:39 It for.
01:00:40 It's perfect for what they.
01:00:41 It for.
01:00:42 Because of course 2 fags aren't going to molest a little girl.
01:00:46 Well, I don't.
01:00:47 They might do that too, but the likelihood is much lower.
01:00:51 I mean, they've already proven that they'll fuck anything.
01:00:54 So I mean, I guess it's but it's.
01:00:56 But.
01:00:56 The comfort level.
01:00:58 Right. The comfort level that normal people have when they when they, when they have that that sense of.
01:01:09 That, that, that revulsion, that disgust response when encountering gay people in a social situation and the the red flags that start popping up as a result when you meet a gay person and you start going, oh, great, am I talking to a fucking child molester here? I'm probably talking.
01:01:27 To a child molester here.
01:01:28 And if you see him with, like a little boy, like, oh, this is really I I'm. I'm having to.
01:01:33 I got rage happening here and I got to, you know.
01:01:37 But the suspicion is lowered because it's a little girl. If it was, if this exact same propaganda campaign was rolled out with a little boy, people would be way less comfortable about it.
01:01:51 Way less comfortable with it.
01:02:00 Now we have another Christian that he'll he'll he. In fact, he drops the the judeo-christian line.
01:02:09 And 'cause again, this is when they were trying to find a way to to even though there was no.
01:02:20 They were trying.
01:02:21 They were trying to widen the net and say, well, I might not be able to tell you specifically what's right and wrong for my religion, but maybe I can cast this super wide net called judeo-christian, which implies a certain set of values or whatever, and and so.
01:02:38 The nonsense he he goes with.
Audience Member
01:02:40 I'd like to address.
01:02:41 Listen to Joy's beings that she seems to be the spokesperson.
01:02:46 Joy, do you?
01:02:46 Yourself to be a Christian woman.
Joy Schulenburg
01:02:52 That's a difficult question because what I I believe in Christ, what I've seen of an awful lot of Christians and the hypocrisy I can't align myself with that.
01:03:03 I'm ambiguous on answering you. Yes or no.
Audience Member
01:03:05 If I could buy it.
Devon Stack
01:03:06 I want to point out hypocrisy was the worst thing to be guilty of. Indiana, the 80s and 90s, going back to what I was talking about with, though he without sin cast the first stone. This was the general feeling among.
01:03:22 The public, but especially among liberals.
01:03:27 That any Christians or anyone really with any kind of.
01:03:33 More morality standards.
01:03:36 They were all hypocrites.
01:03:38 Anyone that judge someone else for anything was a hypocrite, and so that's. That's her language.
01:03:45 Is exactly describing that.
Joy Schulenburg
01:03:48 Fat. So I'm ambiguous on answering you. Yes or no?
Audience Member
01:03:50 OK. Could I ask you?
01:03:51 Would you consider yourself one that would make yourself accountable to the Christian? The judeo-christian scriptures? A person that would make themselves accountable?
Joy Schulenburg
01:04:01 Probably.
01:04:02 Because again, I don't trust man translation. However, I'm comfortable with the notion of standing for my maker.
Audience Member
01:04:09 Then perhaps the answer to the beginning of the.
01:04:11 Should be that no you.
01:04:12 Consider yourself a Christian if I.
01:04:14 I'd like to share with you and I'd like to use a crib sheet. If I make I don't want to quote it correctly.
Joy Schulenburg
01:04:19 Minecraft.
Audience Member
01:04:22 Is there's two particular scriptures I like for you to think about and deal with.
01:04:25 In the Judeo part of the scriptures.
Wannabe Oprah
01:04:29 Taylor, I'll make a deal with you.
01:04:30 And.
01:04:30 One up.
Audience Member
01:04:30 OK. And leviticus.
Wannabe Oprah
01:04:30 You have your choice.
Joy Schulenburg
01:04:34 You don't even have to type.
Audience Member
01:04:34 Well, OK, alright. OK then I better see. Then I better do the Christian. First Corinthians 69 says.
Joy Schulenburg
01:04:35 Been.
01:04:36 This once so many times, but I.
Audience Member
01:04:39 Not you know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.
01:04:43 Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators nor dobbillers, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor drunkards, nor revolvers, nor swinderers, shall inherit the Kingdom.
01:04:53 Of heaven, and I would like to propose to you that come the time that you have to stand before.
01:05:01 The person who you confess Jesus Christ, when that scripture comes before you, you're going to have an awful tough time dealing with that. When you have to reconcile yourself to.
01:05:11 Kingdom of God.
Joy Schulenburg
01:05:13 Whosoever believeth in you shall not be ashamed.
Wannabe Oprah
01:05:18 All right, Mama.
Joy Schulenburg
01:05:19 And that's my bottom line.
Devon Stack
01:05:22 Notice how the guy kind of nods.
01:05:23 And agrees almost.
01:05:26 He's so ineffectual that he's like, oh, I guess you're.
01:05:29 Yep, I guess you know, if you believe in Jesus, then it's fine.
01:05:32 Do whatever you want.
01:05:35 It's like, well, what was the point?
01:05:38 What was the point of all that then?
01:05:43 What? But anyway, these look it's it's.
01:05:50 It's kind of.
01:05:52 It's kind of adorable, but also madding. Watching the watching these people who you know are probably are good people.
01:05:58 Probably have good.
01:05:59 They see evil in the.
01:06:01 They're trying to put a stop to it and it's just that their tools are inadequate.
01:06:12 These are the kinds of things that would matter if you lived in a in a theocracy, I guess.
01:06:17 Then you can make religious arguments, but you don't live in a theocracy.
01:06:25 You can't make these kinds of arguments if religion is a personal choice.
01:06:37 And you're not even going to sway a lot of people at home if religion's becoming increasingly irrelevant.
01:06:42 In fact, you're going to sway him the other way. As I was saying, the people at home, they want to.
01:06:49 They want to adhere to whatever they perceive the ruling class or the upper class, whatever their morality is, and increasingly what these people are seeing is that there is no religion at the top.
01:07:05 These people are not religious people. Movie stars are not religious people.
01:07:11 Celebrities are not religious people.
01:07:14 Are not religious.
01:07:15 Billionaires are not religious people.
01:07:23 In fact, if you've watched any movies lately in 1988, when there is a religious person, they're framed the same way that a gun nut is framed. They're obsessed about some weird little thing that makes them dangerous, actually.
01:07:40 Their fascination with this thing called religion is just as dangerous as someone who's obsessed with guns.
01:07:49 Because while it might just be their own personal hobby.
01:07:57 It can be used as a weapon.
01:08:02 Can be used as a weapon, that is.
01:08:06 Can destroy anyone they don't like.
01:08:12 And so the people at home, they see someone like this and they're like, oh, he's actually, he's the loser.
01:08:19 I I now I mean I I.
01:08:21 I was kind of on the fence with these this whole situation, but these two guys and by the way, they don't really pick a lot of people from the audience that that.
01:08:29 That.
01:08:30 Use anything but these kinds of arguments.
01:08:34 Which is odd because I think it's.
01:08:35 I think they shot this in San Francisco.
01:08:39 I'm going to be wrong about.
01:08:40 I'm not sure what state, but he said here in in San Francisco, something I'm pretty sure is in San Francisco or at least I think that's what he said.
01:08:55 Not that it matters because you know he folded like a wet paper bag.
Libertarian
01:09:01 The question on hand you.
01:09:02 Earlier that your mother was very supportive to you.
Joy Schulenburg
01:09:06 She's accepting. I think that's.
Libertarian
01:09:07 But I didn't hear anything.
01:09:09 How your father responded and vice. And also with.
01:09:13 2 gentlemen.
01:09:14 How did your families, you know, being from Illinois, that's a rather conservative area.
Jeff Wooster
01:09:17 When Bert's parents came out for Christmas, Bert's father took me in his arms and said I'm glad I have a third son now.
01:09:25 That's the acceptance we get from the pop.
Joy Schulenburg
01:09:26 And my father.
01:09:27 I mean, we're not very close, but he's quite accepting.
Bert Lacombe
01:09:30 And our mother in my.
Devon Stack
01:09:31 Not very close because he probably diddled you.
Bert Lacombe
01:09:33 I my my family and Jeff's family.
Devon Stack
01:09:37 That's how it's all mushy now.
Bert Lacombe
01:09:39 Communicate with each.
01:09:40 They share a grandchild and they're grateful and thankful for that. And they love us all for that.
01:09:46 And that's that.
Devon Stack
01:09:48 And that's that. By the way, isn't that all that matters anyway? Love is love.
01:09:54 Love is love.
Audience Member
01:09:57 If I have a comment.
Wannabe Oprah
01:09:59 Go ahead. We can hear you.
Audience Member
01:10:00 Oh, OK.
Wannabe Oprah
01:10:02 Turn your television set down if you're if you're still hearing us. All right, go on.
Audience Member
01:10:06 OK, I would like to say I am a married woman with a daughter.
01:10:12 And.
01:10:14 They had to tell.
01:10:15 The guest I would like to say hello at 1st and I would like to say I understand very clearly what they are going through.
01:10:23 It is not one persons right to judge them. OK. They are giving their daughter love and they are loving each other through.
Devon Stack
01:10:30 Listen to the the the high.
01:10:32 See, This is why it matters when she mentioned that the the daycare was oh, it's it's a multiracial and everything.
01:10:39 Fine, because as people get Dumber, the pushback from this stuff.
01:10:45 Is going to get, uh, stupider.
01:10:50 Their ability to grasp anything complex, especially if they see oh.
01:10:54 You know what?
01:10:55 I'm.
01:10:56 Might if they start looking at the world through the lens of oppressed and oppressor, and they're told that no, no fags are just as oppressed as you nigs, it's fine.
01:11:05 Surprised you didn't hear. Like a smoke alarm chirp in the background.
01:11:08 Fact that she couldn't turn down her fucking TV set.
01:11:11 You're hearing the god damn feedback from it.
01:11:16 Even after she was like, OK, I'll do it. And then like, you still hear her TV going.
01:11:20 Like you fucking dumb bitch.
01:11:22 But anyway, this is the kind of acceptance.
01:11:25 You get. It's funny 'cause all over. You'll hear conservatives.
01:11:32 Well, not so much now that now.
01:11:34 Don't care.
01:11:35 Now they don't care. They've.
01:11:36 They've already thrown in the towel with the fag issue, but they used to say when they were trying to get you okay with white replacement when they were trying to.
01:11:44 Be like. No, no, it's fine.
01:11:45 So all these Mexicans is good because they hate like you.
01:11:52 Not really, you know.
01:11:55 Turns out not really and.
01:11:59 And same with this this negress here.
Audience Member
01:12:02 Corn chip.
01:12:04 No one in the audience, no one in the world, will have to stand before God on judgment day.
01:12:11 It is this saying they know what they are going through. I just like to say for the people out there in the world who disagree with them and judge against them, I would like to tell them that there's some people out here who understand and I want.
Wannabe Oprah
01:12:24 All right.
Audience Member
01:12:25 Thank you.
Wannabe Oprah
01:12:25 Thank you for that.
Devon Stack
01:12:27 Sandy can't judge.
01:12:29 You can't judge. You can't have standards. Nobody's perfect.
01:12:34 Are you to judge?
Caller
01:12:37 So I'd like.
01:12:37 Thank the guests for living in California.
Wannabe Oprah
01:12:41 Does that mean?
Caller
01:12:44 I.
Devon Stack
01:12:44 There's your based collar or.
01:12:46 At least it starts out like it's going to be based. You couldn't didn't pick that, he said.
01:12:51 First, I'd like to thank your guests for living in California.
Wannabe Oprah
01:12:57 OK.
01:12:58 Well, explain that.
Caller
01:13:00 Well, I'd like to know when they're bringing the child up, if they're going to bring it up into a.
01:13:04 World, or if they're going to teach it that.
01:13:10 Before.
Wannabe Oprah
01:13:11 You answer that question, I want to mention that Joyce Schulenburg is the author of a book called Gay Parenting.
Devon Stack
01:13:18 Oh, look at that.
Wannabe Oprah
01:13:19 It is described as a complete guide for gay men and lesbians with children.
Devon Stack
01:13:21 That's the complete guide.
01:13:24 Well, you can still get it on Amazon.
01:13:26 It's not popular these days, I don't think, because it doesn't.
01:13:30 Any reviews?
01:13:31 And then.
01:13:32 Be a shame if someone reviewed it there.
01:13:35 Gay parenting by Joy Schulenburg.
01:13:38 Yeah, I don't think she's Jewish.
01:13:42 A complete guide for gay men and lesbians with children.
01:13:47 So she's there promoting her book, giving out an instruction manual, which, by the way, includes legal advice on how to navigate again.
01:13:58 Now it's irrelevant.
01:13:59 You don't need this book, but this was essentially an instruction book for fags to to illegally acquire children.
01:14:09 That's what it was.
01:14:13 This propaganda campaign had had had two objectives. One the obvious one.
01:14:20 Hey Americans, this is normal.
01:14:24 We're here, we're queer.
01:14:25 Get used to it.
01:14:28 Two hey fags. You ever want a kid?
01:14:33 You ever want a kid and it just seemed like maybe that was wrong or or maybe you couldn't do it 'cause illegal.
01:14:40 Nah, look at these people.
01:14:43 Have a fucking kid.
01:14:47 Buy the book.
01:14:49 It'll walk you through it.
01:14:50 It's easy.
01:14:51 Get one of your fucking dirty dike friends, maybe. Who knows?
Lesbian Caller
01:14:59 I'd like to say hello to Joy and Jeff and Burt and congratulate them myself.
01:15:04 I just found out that I was pregnant.
01:15:07 I am a lesbian.
Jewy Christian Guy
01:15:08 OK.
Joy Schulenburg
01:15:08 Congratulations.
Lesbian Caller
01:15:09 Thank you.
Devon Stack
01:15:10 Oh yeah. Speaking of Dirty dike friends, weird, another pregnant lesbian.
01:15:16 Now.
01:15:16 Yeah, I know what you're thinking. Oh, Devon.
01:15:20 She's probably she got raped or something. Or or like.
01:15:26 She planned it.
01:15:27 She wanted to have a she want.
01:15:30 I don't know.
Wannabe Oprah
01:15:31 Was this a deliberate pregnancy?
Lesbian Caller
01:15:32 That's right.
01:15:32 Yeah, well, no. But I'm glad for it.
01:15:36 Wanted a child.
Devon Stack
01:15:38 Oh, so OK anyway.
01:15:43 There's no such thing as lesbians.
Joy Schulenburg
01:15:48 And I think we worry about those things that are, you know, that we had trouble with growing up.
01:15:56 I researched and I interviewed over 500 lesbian gay parenting families throughout the country in the course of writing this book, and I found out that the kids are turning out great.
01:16:05 They really are. If anything, a lot of the kids who are old enough now to know have said that they felt that having a gay parent.
01:16:13 Help them really be good judges of people for their.
01:16:18 Themselves, instead of for what they were told. You know, instead of surface.
01:16:23 It helped them develop a sense of value on the basis of integrity and honest.
Devon Stack
01:16:27 Oh, you mean.
01:16:28 A sense of moral relativism.
01:16:33 You mean a personal value system?
01:16:37 Completely disconnected from what the norms of the society are the the crumbling norms of the society that you're you're coming out with a fucking sledgehammer.
01:16:50 That's the effect that you're finding that that the children, the the great thing about the children of gay people who, which by the way, despite what she'll say, I think later.
01:17:01 Are statistically.
01:17:04 More likely to become gay.
01:17:08 And you would think by the way, especially in in her case, right, if it was genetic.
01:17:11 Well, she's both parents are.
01:17:14 You would think that their kid would be like super gay if if it's genetic, right?
01:17:19 Mean, how would you get a gayer kid than that?
01:17:23 Combine the two gay gay genes and you would get like, you know, Captain Gay.
01:17:30 But anyway.
01:17:32 The.
01:17:33 The results that she finds so positive, and she's not just positive, she's HIV positive.
01:17:43 No, she's not.
01:17:44 Her.
01:17:45 One of the guys.
01:17:46 But anyway, the the the thing that she finds so positive.
01:17:51 Is that these kids are growing up.
01:17:53 Up with their own personal understanding of morality in their own personal cause, how wouldn't you?
01:18:01 How wouldn't you end up like that?
01:18:04 How wouldn't you end up with like having 0 standards and having 0 connection?
01:18:10 To the the value system that built the country.
01:18:16 So all the people again, you want to go back to the 90s?
01:18:19 This shit was already in full swing.
01:18:23 You should want to go back to a decade, which look obviously time travel isn't real, so you'll never go back anyway.
01:18:32 But if you could, wouldn't you rather go back to a time when all these people would be rounded up and well, put in a pit somewhere?
01:18:42 Wouldn't that be a better solution?
01:18:45 Then celebrating them on television.
Joy Schulenburg
01:18:50 Loyalty and some people said yes, they did go through, you know, hassles and adolescence. But someone said it really did help them.
01:18:58 And the other thing I think that's real important for people to realize is that these kids have no greater chance of growing up gay themselves than any other member of the population does.
Devon Stack
01:19:08 That's a lie. It's that's actually.
01:19:12 Statistically wrong based on all the research I.
01:19:15 Able to find.
01:19:17 It's not dramatic, though I'll admit that at least with the well, the official research, who knows, right?
01:19:23 Because you're limited by the respondents of your study, but based on the available research, it's not dramatically higher.
01:19:32 It is higher.
Wannabe Oprah
01:19:34 Not have a relationship at the moment.
Joy Schulenburg
01:19:36 Fortunately, now.
Wannabe Oprah
01:19:37 What happens if a woman comes?
01:19:39 I mean, you are like someone with a.
01:19:41 You have a lot of baggage, lady.
Joy Schulenburg
01:19:41 We tried that.
01:19:42 I know well the The thing is that I am so busy. I keep saying it would take an incredible person. It wouldn't.
Wannabe Oprah
01:19:44 A lot of stuff.
Joy Schulenburg
01:19:48 Would take somebody who is busy and involved with something themselves.
Devon Stack
01:19:53 Or or or it would take your gay friend from high school that you always wanted.
01:19:57 But he was a fag. So you said you were a fag.
01:20:00 And then one day, you're like, hey, I have an idea. Why don't you guys bang me?
01:20:05 We'll have a Gayby.
01:20:07 Oh, now I have to live with you forever and raise a kid with you like I always wanted.
Joy Schulenburg
01:20:11 I had a relationship with a woman for about nine months last year.
01:20:14 She lived with us.
01:20:15 Her daughter lived with us.
01:20:16 It didn't work out.
Wannabe Oprah
01:20:17 How confusing is that for Veronica to see a woman comes in?
01:20:19 Aaron.
Joy Schulenburg
01:20:20 In she just still, we are still very.
Wannabe Oprah
01:20:20 OSHA.
Joy Schulenburg
01:20:22 We broke up amicably, her and the daughter are still like best friends and the woman's now involved with man and you know, is having a happy heterosexual marriage.
Wannabe Oprah
01:20:31 I stand by the 4th.
Devon Stack
01:20:33 And lesbians don't exist.
01:20:36 So her last lesbian lover?
01:20:39 I'm just just.
01:20:41 Burn down everything, every everything. Her last.
01:20:45 Imagine that fucking household.
01:20:46 Her last lesbian lover also had a kid, moved in with her with with a kid.
01:20:54 And then they broke.
01:20:55 And now the lesbian lover is married to a dude, lucky man.
01:21:00 Lucky man, that guy.
01:21:01 Whoever ended up with with that with that prize.
01:21:08 Anyway, so that's that's the story. And they go around.
01:21:13 Parade them on show after show after show.
01:21:16 There they they made several media appearances.
Talk Show Host
01:21:19 Have we got a story for you this morning?
01:21:20 We do.
01:21:22 She was gay and she wanted a baby.
01:21:25 He was gay and he and his lover wanted a baby.
01:21:28 So the three of them got together and they had a.
01:21:31 Baby, now this morning you're going to meet the members of this very unusual family. They all live together as the parents of Veronica, who is a 5 year old girl. This threesome is going to tell us what it's like for a gay family to face life in a straight.
01:21:44 World and why they believe gay people have as much a right to be parents as anyone else.
01:21:50 Would you please welcome Joy Schulenburg, Geoffrey Wurster and Burt Lachman?
01:22:00 I.
Audience Member
01:22:03 Good morning.
Talk Show Host
01:22:03 You don't take hands.
Devon Stack
01:22:04 Sing again.
01:22:04 You want to go look at the smiles and the and the and.
01:22:07 The applause.
Talk Show Host
01:22:11 Good morning, Jeff.
Devon Stack
01:22:11 They're plotting.
Talk Show Host
01:22:12 Joy bird. I don't have you with us.
Devon Stack
01:22:13 You want to go back to a a decade where that's like this has got to be one of the first years of that decade.
01:22:22 Because the kids, it's 1988 when they were saying she's five, they bring her on.
01:22:26 Doesn't.
01:22:27 You'll see her in a.
01:22:28 She doesn't look much older than 5.
01:22:33 And the audience is applauding.
01:22:37 They're not storming the stage.
Talk Show Host
01:22:46 Monica ads, everybody.
01:22:52 Looking down over there.
Devon Stack
01:22:55 Look on the camera, honey.
Talk Show Host
01:22:55 There you go.
01:22:56 You're how old again. Veronica, are you going?
01:22:59 This.
Devon Stack
01:23:00 Is Eddie.
01:23:00 888.
Talk Show Host
01:23:01 You're not going to school.
Audience Member
01:23:02 What about today?
Talk Show Host
01:23:03 None of you guys start next year.
01:23:05 Next year, kindergarten next year.
David
01:23:07 She can go into preschool free.
Talk Show Host
01:23:08 You know, when you work all year like we do, you forget it's summertime.
01:23:12 Is, let's show Joyce.
Devon Stack
01:23:15 Oh yeah, look, she's look, she's turned out normal guys.
01:23:19 She's totally normal. I bet these days.
01:23:23 Foreshadowing.
01:23:31 No, they put it on Donohue.
01:23:34 Look, everybody, this is normal.
Talk Show Host
01:23:39 So they all slept together and so they wouldn't know whose baby it is.
Audience Member
01:23:45 Somebody.
Talk Show Host
01:23:47 Somebody knows?
01:23:49 Oh, she knows. Sure, baby.
01:23:50 Yeah, you know what I mean.
01:23:52 This is.
01:23:52 Going to be.
01:23:57 Where do we get these audience?
Devon Stack
01:23:58 This is oh, it's hilarious.
01:24:03 It's hilarious.
01:24:04 I love the the the wacky high jinks our society gets into.
01:24:11 Morning show where the audio is. Just too bad.
01:24:14 Watch any of it.
01:24:15 But again, the audience members all look like this.
01:24:20 They all look like this.
01:24:24 You know, like the the Boo. It's like it's almost the boomerang face.
01:24:30 You know the smile, but like the.
01:24:34 Ah.
01:24:35 I'm supposed to like this.
01:24:39 I'm supposed to like this.
01:24:43 Hello bit I am amused.
01:24:45 I'm titillated. I'm entertained.
01:24:50 But there's something something nagging me.
01:24:52 I don't know.
01:24:55 I don't know.
01:24:56 I look at this and I'm just something about it isn't making me happy.
01:25:01 Good to see they dressed her up in.
01:25:03 The gay flag.
01:25:04 That yes, those existed back then as well.
01:25:11 That started in the 70s for those who don't know.
01:25:16 But it was everywhere.
Anchor Man
01:25:17 News reports reporter Barbara Rodgers is opening to show us that changing world as more and more women and some men, too, are deciding to have children without being married.
Caller
01:25:18 As.
Anchor Man
01:25:28 She's here to tell us about another group of single parents.
01:25:31 One is growing larger and larger every day.
News Lady
01:25:34 Yes, it certainly.
01:25:36 It is estimated that there are about 4 million lesbian women and gay men who are parents. Most of those are men and women who were at one time married and had their children before they openly admitted their homosexuality. But now a number of lesbians and gays are Dec.
01:25:49 To have children as single parents.
01:25:53 You look very nice today.
Lesbian Caller
01:25:54 Oh, thanks, Mom, and positively irresistible.
News Lady
01:25:57 At one time, this was the American image of what a family should be. The husband, the wife and the kids.
Bert Lacombe
01:25:59 What?
01:26:02 Love.
01:26:04 You sweetheart.
01:26:04 Real nice.
Jeff Wooster
01:26:06 Yeah, the.
News Lady
01:26:08 Schulenburg Worcester Lackey met household is about as far from that image as you can get.
01:26:14 You live here? With who?
01:26:16 Who do you live with?
Daughter
01:26:18 No.
01:26:20 Joy bird.
01:26:21 And Jeff?
News Lady
01:26:21 And who are Joy Burton, Jeff.
Daughter
01:26:23 Hey, Mommy and Daddy and Papa.
News Lady
01:26:27 6 year old Veronica Lacamint Worcester's mommy is Joy She'llenburg, a 31 year old lesbian.
01:26:33 Her daddy is Jeff Wooster, a gay man, and her Papa is Burt Lachman.
01:26:38 He is also gay.
Jeff Wooster
01:26:39 I would say the worst reactions.
01:26:41 I got were from.
01:26:43 Gay men.
01:26:44 Who thought I had, like, copped out or something like that to associate with a woman and become a breeder.
01:26:52 And that surprised me.
News Lady
01:26:54 The question most people who are not gay ask is whether gay and lesbian parents have a negative psychological effect on their children, or whether they influence their children's sexual preferences.
Bert Lacombe
01:26:57 I'm sorry.
01:27:00 Target.
News Lady
01:27:05 Doctor Judith Wallerstein, executive director of the Center for the Family in Transition, says that question has been answered by several studies.
Devon Stack
01:27:08 Hey, babe.
01:27:13 All right, hold on. Before we got a Jew, we got a Jew in here. Tell us, everybody.
Dr. Judith Wallerstein
01:27:14 In some of the studies that we've had.
Devon Stack
01:27:17 It's it's fine.
01:27:19 We interview this professional geoser title again.
News Lady
01:27:23 Doctor Judith Wallerstein, executive director of the Center for the Family in Transition.
Devon Stack
01:27:28 Ah.
01:27:30 What?
01:27:31 What for the the family in transit. What is it?
01:27:33 What is it?
News Lady
01:27:34 Dean, executive director of the Center for the Family in Transition.
Devon Stack
01:27:38 Center for the family in transition.
01:27:43 Let me see if this still exists.
01:27:46 The Center for Family.
01:27:50 In transition, isn't that a weird title?
01:27:59 Isn't that a weird title?
01:28:03 I can't find anything right off the top here, but yeah, you've got a, a, A Jew who's the executive director.
01:28:12 For an organization called Family in Transition, I wonder whether trying to transition that hmm anyway.
News Lady
01:28:22 Says that question has been answered by several studies.
Dr. Judith Wallerstein
01:28:25 In some of the studies that we've had about lesbian mothers, some of them have been more careful about exposing their children to competent men than some of the women who've been very angry at men who've come out of an unhappy divorce.
01:28:41 In the studies that we have, children of lesbian and gay parents, I mean this has usually come out of a divorce.
01:28:48 Do not by and large go up to be a homosexual children.
01:28:51 No, no, no, she didn't.
News Lady
01:28:52 Lesbian and gay parents like Joy, Bird and Jeff are quick to point out that they all grew up in households with two parents who are not gay.
Joy Schulenburg
01:28:54 A lot.
01:28:55 Of things.
Devon Stack
01:29:01 Oh.
01:29:02 There's there's a lot going.
01:29:03 Pack there, first of all, again weird if it's, if it's genetic.
01:29:09 But also notice how they're still kind of framing it like, don't worry, they won't be gay.
01:29:15 So you're you're kind of at least somewhat admitting that gay is not optimal.
01:29:22 Otherwise, wouldn't you be excited?
01:29:26 Or at least be neutral on the idea that, hey.
01:29:34 Well, of course these.
01:29:35 Kids end up gay more often.
01:29:37 Good.
01:29:40 Why? You know why? Why this?
Cutting Crew - Just Died in your Arms
01:29:42 But.
Devon Stack
01:29:43 Why address this at all? If it's totally fine?
01:29:48 If in in the you know in at least according to this Jew.
01:29:54 That lesbian mothers are actually better parents is the way she's putting it.
01:29:58 Lesbian parents are actually better than than divorced mothers.
01:30:04 Because divorced mothers are are bitter and hate men.
01:30:10 And somehow lesbians aren't.
01:30:18 So they push this in local news stories.
01:30:21 They're in all kinds of.
01:30:24 Different.
01:30:25 Oh, Jenny.
01:30:26 Jenny Jones pushed it too.
Audience Member
01:30:35 Thank you, daddy.
Jenny Jones
01:30:40 This is Veronica. She's 10 years old.
01:30:44 This is Veronicas mom.
Devon Stack
01:30:46 Huh. Mom got, like, fatter and.
Dr. Judith Wallerstein
01:30:46 Data.
Devon Stack
01:30:49 Uh. In fact, her mom keeps getting fatter.
01:30:51 So this is five years later. They just said the daughter's now 10.
01:30:55 And now her mom's like this fucking Butch lesbo ham planet.
Jenny Jones
01:31:01 This is veronica's.
01:31:02 This is Veronica's other mom.
01:31:06 This is Veronica's other dad. Veronica's two moms are lovers.
01:31:08 Yes.
01:31:12 Veronica's two dads used to be lovers, but now they're not.
01:31:16 Veronica's dad were white lovers with one of Veronica's mom.
Devon Stack
01:31:16 Product has the AIDS.
Jenny Jones
01:31:20 In fact, that's how Veronica's mom got pregnant.
01:31:23 But they don't know which dad is Veronicas real dad.
01:31:27 Veronica lives with her two moms, Veronica's two dads live apart, and one of Veronica.
01:31:33 Dads.
01:31:33 A new lover?
01:31:35 But they all love Veronica.
01:31:38 Meet Lena Ford, Joy Schulenburg, Jeff Wooster.
01:31:45 And Byrd.
01:31:46 They are all Veronica's parents.
Devon Stack
01:31:51 Everybody clapped.
01:31:57 That social reinforcement, all the all the the wives at home.
01:32:02 I guess this.
01:32:03 This is normal now. Now, now.
01:32:06 Can't raise my kids to to be intolerant of this.
01:32:11 It's changing world.
01:32:12 Look.
01:32:12 Just like you know, even Geraldo get gets in on it.
Jenny Jones
01:32:15 Veronica is charming and lovely child.
Bert Lacombe
01:32:16 Yeah.
Anchor Man
01:32:18 How? How old are you?
Jenny Jones
01:32:19 10-10 you see much more mature.
01:32:21 Catch.
David
01:32:24 OK, I want to ask you.
Jenny Jones
01:32:25 What you call Jeff?
01:32:27 Get a shot of Jeff when he shot a Jeff too.
01:32:29 What?
Anchor Man
01:32:30 Do you call Jeff the man with the bandana?
Jenny Jones
01:32:32 Oh.
Daughter
01:32:33 I call him Dad.
Geraldo
01:32:36 You call him Dad.
01:32:38 OK.
01:32:38 Now what do?
01:32:39 You call Bert.
Daughter
01:32:40 PP. OK.
Geraldo
01:32:43 What do you call joy?
Daughter
01:32:45 Mom.
Geraldo
01:32:46 Well, joy, mom, if you call Joy mom, what do you?
01:32:49 Lena.
Daughter
01:32:51 Amma.
Geraldo
01:32:52 Oh.
01:32:54 Now, Veronica, do you ever get confused, honey?
01:32:57 Ever. Whose daddy?
01:32:58 Whose mommy?
Daughter
01:32:59 No, it's not.
01:32:59 They all have different names for them.
Devon Stack
01:33:02 Oh, it's adorable. She's so.
01:33:05 Everything's fine right now. It's. Oh, my God.
01:33:12 Her mom got even bigger.
01:33:14 The gravitational pull of her mother is sucking up the child.
01:33:21 Oh, good Lord.
01:33:23 Oh man.
Wannabe Oprah
01:33:24 Oh, problem is.
Saved by the Bell
01:33:26 The 90s man.
01:33:27 It's the 90s, Ma.
Devon Stack
01:33:29 It's the 90s.
Dr. Judith Wallerstein
01:33:30 Anything I want to be, it's the 90s. It's the.
Lesbian Caller
01:33:32 90s it's the 90s.
Saved by the Bell
01:33:34 It's the 90s.
Sopranos
01:33:35 Parents are supposed to discuss sex with their children.
Saved by the Bell
01:33:37 It's the 90s.
Devon Stack
01:33:41 Yeah, that's the 90s. Nineties. All right.
01:33:46 So anyway, that's you get the idea.
01:33:48 This is the campaign they pushed and.
01:33:54 I was curious.
01:33:58 I I wanted to know how how little Veronica turned out.
01:34:08 Not nothing.
01:34:08 Super tragic except for and. Look, I I feel really bad for this girl.
01:34:16 And so I don't want to put her on blast.
01:34:18 I don't like Dox this chick.
01:34:22 I.
01:34:23 I have her information and stuff.
01:34:27 I was debating how much to like.
01:34:33 Talk about.
01:34:37 I'm gonna be nice.
01:34:40 Suffice it to say.
01:34:44 I will say this. She describes herself as the disabled mother of many.
01:34:54 And she has.
01:35:02 A similar BMI to her mother.
Bert Lacombe
01:35:05 Let's just say.
Devon Stack
01:35:06 And.
01:35:08 Does not appear to be living.
01:35:12 Very productive life.
01:35:15 And not quite the success story, I don't think.
01:35:22 But again, I don't want.
01:35:23 I actually do feel bad for.
01:35:26 I mean, come on, how could you not?
01:35:29 How could you not?
01:35:33 The the the amount of fucked up shit.
01:35:37 That girl had to go through and then to be paraded in front of cameras for a lot of her childhood.
01:35:45 I mean, when they initially were running this campaign, she was 5.
01:35:48 This time she's 10.
01:35:50 They were doing the talk show host circuit that whole time period because her mother was promoting her book and promoting this propaganda.
01:36:01 In order to, if nothing else, if it's not part of something bigger, if nothing else to sell her fucking book, that tells fags how to have kids.
01:36:12 And every time she makes an appearance on one of these shows, it's a commercial.
01:36:21 Not just for, as I said, the fags, but also acceptance of this kind of arrangement.
01:36:31 So this this shit's.
01:36:32 Been normalized since the at least the early 90s and then people act surprised when Maga grifters suck up to Dave Rubin and his butt buddy for having a Gayby.
01:36:49 When all these people are 90s Democrats and 90s Democrats are the ones that are applauding in these audiences.
01:36:58 Magga is 90s Democrat in some cases to the left of 90s Democrat, certainly to the left, publicly.
01:37:11 Of 90s Democrat political rhetoric, I would say privately 90s Democrat politicians that said they didn't believe in gay marriage all privately did.
01:37:24 They just knew it wouldn't. Wouldn't get them elected.
01:37:38 Oh yeah, I tried looking up the Joy Schollenberger or Berg.
01:37:46 And she still does the exact same kind of activism.
01:37:51 She still is.
01:37:56 An activist for fags having kids.
01:38:00 And still, you know, you know, offers legal advice and counsel and whatnot for people that want to do that.
01:38:07 But it's pretty much.
01:38:10 Impossibly easy to.
01:38:11 These days, it's not like a big deal.
01:38:13 It's not like it was.
01:38:16 Because.
01:38:20 You know the the gift of moral relativism.
01:38:23 Kind of a shorter one the night.
01:38:26 To be honest, I almost.
01:38:27 I almost didn't do one tonight because I was.
01:38:30 I'm all beat up from.
01:38:30 Oh.
01:38:33 Fucking heaving boxes around all day.
01:38:36 I was up till 3:00 in the morning lifting.
01:38:41 80 LB boxes around and.
01:38:44 Trying to consolidate beehives and getting stung and shit and.
01:38:51 I'm I'm feeling it today.
01:38:54 Feeling it today?
01:38:57 But yeah this.
01:38:59 I just felt that it was.
01:39:00 I thought it was interesting to look take a look and see when all this happened, especially because.
01:39:06 Yeah, this is the kind of thing that if you know all these people that talk about going back to the 90s, if you were like 7 years old, you weren't watching this stuff. Your mom was while you were at school.
01:39:17 You.
01:39:18 Didn't know that all this stuff was going on in the background.
01:39:21 And and look, I think every there's going to be.
01:39:24 There will be kids that will be nostalgic for the twenty 20s.
01:39:31 There'll be kids that are nostalgic for the twenty teens.
01:39:34 They're already kids that are nostalgic for the early 2000s.
01:39:42 That's just the way it works.
01:39:44 Childhood for the most part.
01:39:47 I mean, there's obviously horrific exceptions, childhood.
01:39:52 Even if you're like in a shitty.
01:39:55 Shitty household because of the lack of responsibility because.
01:40:01 No matter how retarded your dreams are, they still seem possible.
01:40:06 That's that's the that's the root of nostalgia. It has nothing to do with what the world actually was like.
01:40:14 That you're looking at everything through the eyes of a child.
01:40:18 Where you feel immortal. You don't think you're going to die?
01:40:22 You don't know anyone that's died, except for maybe a grandparent, and they seem ancient. They seem like a relic from another time.
01:40:30 Mortality is not on your mind at all.
01:40:35 On any stupid dream you have of what do you want to be when you grow up?
01:40:40 Seems like a possible outcome.
01:40:45 You could.
01:40:45 You could think it's still realistic that maybe you'll be an astronaut.
01:40:52 When you're 7.
01:40:55 Fuck. You might even think that it's realistic that you'll be President or king of the world or something.
01:41:01 A fire truck. You know, like it.
01:41:04 Yeah, no matter how stupid your dream is, it still seems possible.
01:41:09 A kid.
01:41:10 The world feels like it has limitless possibilities.
01:41:15 No matter how shitty everything is.
01:41:19 And so it's totally natural for people as they start to have to face their own mortality.
01:41:27 Have to face the reality that no, some of my dreams are not going to come.
01:41:34 And the way that I saw my life unfolding isn't the way that it's unfolding.
01:41:42 And nobody has zero regrets.
01:41:47 But when you're 7, you don't have a whole lot of them.
01:41:52 So no matter how bad the decade, you know, generally the decade was that you grew up in, it's going to seem better.
01:41:59 It's.
01:41:59 Going to seem better.
01:42:03 And then the sad reality is.
01:42:07 Because the decline of our civilization, it also was.
01:42:14 It also was, yeah, the 90s were horrible and degenerate in their own way, but it was compared to today.
01:42:22 In some ways, ways that were meaningful, ways that that.
01:42:29 Affected you directly.
01:42:32 For the average person, yeah, it was better.
01:42:37 Or at least the perception was.
01:42:47 It's.
01:42:48 It's a pretty shitty thing.
01:42:49 It's a. It's a shitty condemnation, really, of our society.
01:42:56 That in the context of today, I think it's safe to say that every generation looks back at the generation before them and and thinks you had it better than I did.
01:43:09 I don't think that's that's normal.
01:43:15 I don't think that's the way white civilizations have been for the majority of the the last several centuries.
01:43:31 In fact, I found this video.
01:43:33 It was one of the it's one of the first videos or films with sound and some old guy from.
01:43:43 Like I like I I and he was. He was already old and it was like 1901 or some shit. Like it was a long time ago, right?
01:43:50 Like at least it was at least 100 years ago.
01:43:54 And he was already an old man.
01:43:55 So this guy was probably born sometime in the 1800s.
01:44:02 And they asked him about like, oh, what?
01:44:04 Know.
01:44:05 What do you think it's like for future generations and stuff?
01:44:07 He was.
01:44:09 Full of optimism and.
01:44:10 Oh yeah, everything's so much better now.
01:44:14 Everything's so much better now.
01:44:16 You know.
01:44:17 The technology's getting better. The economic situations getting better.
01:44:22 I I used to have to do all this manual labor just to scrape by.
01:44:27 Now things are getting easier.
01:44:30 That might have been the last generation to.
01:44:32 At things like that.
01:44:35 Maybe the boomers, because of World War 2.
01:44:37 Because World War 2 was so prominent in the lives of their parents.
01:44:45 Maybe they looked back and said, wow, they had it worse than I did.
01:44:51 But certainly every generation since the boomers, they've looked back and said, you fuckers.
01:45:02 Anyway, and yes, these are these are boomers, these the ham planet. Lesbian, you know Butch dike there on the left is a boomer.
01:45:12 And her.
01:45:15 Gay. I don't know what you'd call him.
01:45:18 Oh I.
01:45:19 I know what to call him.
01:45:19 Faggots.
01:45:22 They were boomers.
01:45:26 And this is the taboo. They thought that it was important to smash.
01:45:35 To make way for the age of Aquarius.
01:45:39 Anyway.
01:45:41 Hyper chats are inexplicably still working.
01:45:44 I don't know what the.
01:45:46 I don't know like what the deal is. Stripe was gonna just pull the rug out from underneath hyper chats, and now my understanding is they're gonna, they're gonna work through March now too.
01:45:56 Like, are they gonna just do this every month, like next month?
01:45:59 Like, oh, actually another month.
01:46:01 Be.
01:46:02 I don't think it's gonna happen, but.
01:46:05 Hey, I guess be grateful while we got it. So they're still working for some reason.
01:46:11 We'll go ahead and take a look at the ones we got here.
01:46:16 And pop it out here.
01:46:21 We got Gorilla hands.
01:46:32 Gorilla Hands says we now have until.
01:46:35 There we go.
01:46:36 Until April to donate via Hyper Chats on Odysee, I will give.
Aaron Kraus
01:46:43 Half a million dollars.
Devon Stack
01:46:48 All right, half a million dollars.
01:46:52 Gorilla Hands again simply says.
01:46:59 Then we got witch king.
01:47:02 Here are some shekels for the bees shout out to my brother wide awake, all the admins on Odysee and Telegram.
01:47:10 Honda bear iron pilled hammer.
01:47:14 I'm thinking hammer, Thor, Zing, blow, tyrants and last but not least.
01:47:20 Whoops, it updated.
01:47:22 Last not least, where we go.
Caller
01:47:24 Where to go?
Devon Stack
01:47:24 Mick, who isn't an asshole, by the way. Can we get a cash flow check out for the road?
01:47:30 Wish I had a button for that.
01:47:33 But I do not, I do not.
01:47:36 But thank you, Rich King Graham playing game says.
01:47:40 I really like your Henry Ford and Madison grant strings.
01:47:44 Very.
01:47:45 I really respect Ford and Grant.
01:47:47 Imagine what Grant would have would have to say, looking at not only what's happening to America, but the ethnic nations in in Europe.
01:47:56 I think it would. It would.
01:47:58 It would crush their souls.
01:48:00 Because I I've said.
01:48:01 I said this a long time ago.
01:48:04 That one of the things that gives white people an American anxiety when they watch the especially the the videos during the peak, I guess of the the migrant crisis, the ongoing migrant crisis.
01:48:18 Is that as we watched our own country get fucked by diversity?
01:48:25 It wasn't like the end of our race because we always thought in the back of our.
01:48:30 Head well.
01:48:32 You know, at least there's still white countries over, you know, in the old country, right?
01:48:37 Least there's still the source of our genetics is still being maintained, right?
01:48:43 Like, I guess you know if this if this place gets all fucked up, at least there's still a seed bank.
01:48:49 Back home.
01:48:51 And.
01:48:54 As much as it sucked watching America get fucked over 'cause America should should always be a white country.
01:49:01 It was less anxiety just.
01:49:05 Just thinking that it was, you know, Europe was out there somewhere, somewhere out there, there was a continent full of white people.
01:49:11 And then when you saw that oh, oh, no.
01:49:15 They're doing what we did.
01:49:16 This isn't good.
01:49:18 It it became very unnerving.
01:49:22 Yeah, it it no longer became.
01:49:26 A demographic anxiety about our country. It became a racial existential fear, and it remains that today because.
01:49:38 None of these things.
01:49:39 None of these trends show any signs of reversing, despite despite a lot of the.
01:49:46 Symbolic victories.
01:49:48 Some people I think are are coping with.
01:49:54 John Skywalker says since you come from a Mormon family, I was curious to know, or if I knew John Jones, he became trapped and died in Nutty Putty Cave, Utah, in nutty.
01:50:09 Nutty Putty Cave, whether like nutty Putty, was like a like a Silly Putty got trapped.
01:50:13 Trapped in the Silly Putty.
01:50:15 I was trying to imagine.
01:50:17 But nutty Putty cave sounds almost worse.
01:50:20 Utah 2009 and was permanently buried there, saw a sad movie about his death the other day.
01:50:27 Never got to meet his unborn son.
01:50:29 Exploration is truly the white man's Achilles heel.
01:50:34 No, I I.
01:50:37 I might be vaguely familiar with that.
01:50:39 I think I I remember years about that time period. There was a one of these psycho cave guys that crawl around on their belly through like the tightest fucking.
01:50:51 Spots and he became wedged into a spot and they couldn't get him out of it. And he died while they were trying to extract him. And they couldn't get his body out even after he died because it was just too dangerous even for the.
01:51:06 The rescue workers? Yeah, they just left him in there.
01:51:11 But no, I don't know him.
01:51:12 There's a lot of Mormons. It's like it's like.
01:51:16 There's millions of Mormons.
01:51:19 And honestly don't.
01:51:19 I don't even know very many.
01:51:21 Like like 20 Mormons? Maybe something like that? I don't know.
01:51:27 A bunch.
01:51:30 But yeah, yeah, I I don't.
01:51:32 I don't know if cave well, maybe cave exploration has something to do with the white exploration gene. I always thought of that as.
01:51:41 I'm not like claustrophobic, but I mean if I.
01:51:43 Crawling between.
01:51:47 The kinds, I mean you guys have seen cave videos, some of that shit.
01:51:51 Freak me the fuck out.
01:51:54 Brody says.
01:51:56 Hi Dev and I asked an AI to tell me a joke.
01:51:59 Why do vampires suck?
01:52:01 Why don't vampires suck blood anymore?
01:52:03 They're too busy choking on something else.
01:52:09 Really, that's the AI joke.
01:52:12 Well, I guess we don't have to.
01:52:14 About AI comedians for a while.
01:52:16 Thanks for the.
01:52:17 Well, I appreciate that, Brody.
01:52:20 Man of low moral.
01:52:21 Fiber says seeing why people react negatively to the perceived mistreatment of Zelensky was a major black pill for me.
01:52:30 I don't know how anyone can look at him and not see a short, disgusting rat faced kike.
01:52:36 Who is?
01:52:36 Who is murdering white people?
01:52:38 Sad.
01:52:40 Yeah, I mean it's.
01:52:42 A lot of people don't. I mean, most of these people that have strong opinions about Ukraine couldn't find it on a map.
01:52:49 And certainly have never been anywhere even near it.
01:52:53 They don't know anything beyond what has been talked about.
01:52:57 Look, I kind of get bullied, I.
01:52:59 I agree with you in terms of Zelensky. He's obviously a puppet.
01:53:03 Obviously he's an actor. He's a.
01:53:06 He's a Jew and he is financed by.
01:53:10 A.
01:53:10 A Jewish oligarch that wanted a a puppet.
01:53:13 And so he, with his television network, produced a television show about.
01:53:22 Just random idiot that becomes president and then.
01:53:26 That was the pre programming necessary because Ukrainians kind of fell for it. I.
01:53:32 I don't want to say they're unsophisticated, but.
01:53:36 How you don't see through that really kind of, you know, it's adorable in a way, but it's also kind of like, come on, guys, like, how did you not see that?
01:53:45 But yeah, I mean, but at the same time.
01:53:49 You have to recognize like it's it's a complicated issue.
01:53:52 Not gonna let it get here during the hyper.
01:53:55 But I get why Ukrainians want to preserve their sovereignty.
01:53:58 And I get. Why Russia?
01:54:02 Wants what it wants and I also get the you know the the the the role that the NATO nations were playing in the United States and the CIA played and it's it's a complicated mess but ultimately.
01:54:19 Yeah, the, the the best thing to happen now is to stop.
01:54:24 Stop killing Ukrainian men. When I went there.
01:54:29 Uh, it was.
01:54:31 When was that?
01:54:34 It must have been like around 20.
01:54:39 16 or 17 or in that in that time period and uh.
01:54:46 There are.
01:54:46 There was already and look you ask anyone who lives in Europe, there's a lot of Ukrainian women who go or just like, OK, like the stupid.
01:54:56 Mail order bride stuff they have over there or the prostitution they have over there, right? There's not.
01:55:01 Were already, I think the the ratio is something stupid like it was like.
01:55:07 Don't call me on this, but I think it was like 2 to one women to men already in Ukraine because of all the the previous conflicts and a lot of the men would just leave and and that.
01:55:17 There's just already more. There's an excess of women already. And So what you would see, it was pretty gross. Like I remember on the train.
01:55:26 To from Kiev to Levitt.
01:55:29 I was walking to the train and.
01:55:32 It was creepy how often you saw, like some old. And I mean, like, you know, in his 60s, kind of like old Western guy.
01:55:42 You know, old Western white guy. You know, Americans, Europeans would like some.
01:55:47 You know, maybe even like 18 year old Ukrainian chick and you saw that kind of coupling a lot and it was really weird.
01:55:58 And that was because that's mean that's.
01:56:04 You know that's what's that.
01:56:06 That's what happens when you don't have any men. You know what I mean?
01:56:10 These women want someone to provide for them and end up doing that.
01:56:17 And that was before the war.
01:56:20 And there's, I don't know what the actual numbers are, but there's people saying that it's maybe as high as like a million people on the Ukrainian side.
01:56:29 They're conscripting people now, I think as young as 16.
01:56:34 That's that's not.
01:56:36 And here's what happens, no?
01:56:37 No matter what the the end result is. You're gonna have a situation now where there's gonna be almost no men and there's gonna be all these fucking women.
01:56:47 And so a lot of them are gonna end up in prostitution.
01:56:50 A lot of them are gonna be marrying some like, you know, wrinkled, bald, old fuck.
01:56:55 And you know, still not having any kids. But the other problem is they're also going to import a lot of non whites.
01:57:02 Because especially with with these mineral contracts, if that ever materializes, they're gonna go.
01:57:10 We need people to work.
01:57:11 It'll be the same argument, right?
01:57:13 We need people to work in like.
01:57:14 These fucking lithium mines or whatever the fuck they're going to be. And you know there's not enough men to work at them. So we better bring in all these fucking people from the third world.
01:57:23 What they're going to do?
01:57:25 That's what they're going to do is they're they're going to be racially destroying the Ukrainian people.
01:57:31 No matter how no matter how this unfolds, at this point and.
01:57:36 There's.
01:57:37 There's no path.
01:57:38 There's no path for like a military victory there. There never really was, you know, like. And it was clear there.
01:57:44 Really was.
01:57:47 Again I get.
01:57:47 You know, like I get wanting to defend your sovereignty, but like.
01:57:54 You know.
01:57:56 The writing was on the wall like in the beginning.
01:57:59 It didn't matter how many how many dollars and and tanks got sent to Ukraine, it was going to be impossible because it was going to be, you know, it was going to be a manpower issue if nothing else.
01:58:13 And so yeah, it's it's.
01:58:14 It's a tragedy and it is frustrating 'cause most Ukrainians. In fact, every Ukrainian I've ever talked to about this.
01:58:22 Love zelensky. And it's in fact my friend that I went out there to go hang out with.
01:58:31 Campaigned for Zelenskiy and doesn't isn't isn't a big fan of mine anymore because of some of the things I had to say about zalenski and and.
01:58:41 Background and.
01:58:44 Yeah, it's.
01:58:48 Yeah, it is what it is. Most people look, they just.
01:58:53 It.
01:58:54 Most people don't understand what's going on beyond their their immediate environment unless it's explained. Unless it's spoon fed to them, you know by someone on CNN.
01:59:06 Jay Ray, 1981.
01:59:08 I don't know what it is with Odysee.
01:59:10 Devon, I have to go to Rumble to watch your replays.
01:59:13 I know I've been bitching about this about it, but it's it's true.
01:59:18 It's just turned to a pouch.
01:59:19 Look.
01:59:19 Works for me.
01:59:21 I don't know.
01:59:22 I don't know if you're using a weird browser or I don't know what you're using, but.
01:59:28 Um, it's I don't see a lot of complaints from anyone else like you.
01:59:32 I would.
01:59:32 I'm going.
01:59:34 I'm assuming it's something on your end, especially if it did this on the last stream because the first one you complained about, I could see it maybe being a Kodak issue.
01:59:44 Because I had to upload a a recording because it Odyssey didn't didn't properly, you know, store the recording after the stream for some reason.
01:59:56 But last stream it did and it just worked.
01:59:59 So if you're starving, if still having issues, I don't know.
02:00:03 I my guess is it's something on your end.
02:00:06 I.
02:00:06 I don't know what browser you're using, but yeah, you can message their tech support.
02:00:13 Let them know what's going.
02:00:14 Maybe they've got some work around for it, but I don't think it's. I haven't.
02:00:17 Haven't seen I mailed to duplicate your issue.
02:00:19 Me just put that way.
02:00:22 You can always look rumble's not bad and rumble.
02:00:25 The bonus with Rumble is it's available right after I finish streaming, whereas Odyssey, even if it's working correctly, takes some time to to upload the replay, which is kind of gang.
02:00:37 Bluecord.
Cutting Crew - Just Died in your Arms
02:00:50 8.
Devon Stack
02:00:51 Blue Court as always.
02:00:53 Evening, Mr. stack.
02:00:54 I hope all is well at the pill box.
02:00:57 For what you do.
02:00:58 Well, I appreciate that all is well.
02:01:00 At the pillbox I've been having to kill rats lately.
02:01:04 That's the only that sucks.
02:01:07 Like if this one I have this one building.
02:01:10 Where I was I was storing some shit and I went there to move some stuff.
02:01:15 Haven't been there in a while.
02:01:16 There's all this fucking rat shit everywhere. I was like, god damn it. Fucking rats out here and I put a bunch like a bunch, like almost half a bucket.
02:01:26 Of rat poison out and I came back the next day and it was all gone like it was all gone. I was like, holy shit, it's been a lot of dead rats. Like in the ceiling.
02:01:42 Oh man, yeah, yeah. But that's that's the the the desert and rodents.
02:01:50 That's more than all the creepy, crawly, spiky, poisonous things.
02:01:54 The fucking rodents that cause the problems out here.
02:01:57 I mean, they're easily to some extent they're easily dealt with, but it still sucks.
02:02:05 Let's.
02:02:05 Watch the collapse, says Love you Devon.
02:02:07 Our folk.
02:02:08 It's starting to be spring here and then hot in the high desert.
02:02:12 Hope things are going.
02:02:14 Shout out to rod God, white fucking power.
02:02:18 And tnd.
02:02:21 Yeah, is starting at spring. We haven't had enough rain though for things to start blooming yet. So.
02:02:26 And the weather's nice, but the bees are not enjoying.
02:02:30 They're just starting to go a little crazy because everything, everything is all nice. There is a little bit, there's a little bit.
02:02:36 See some pollen coming.
02:02:37 I don't know where getting it from, but there is a little bit of pollen coming in. But yeah, nothing, nothing major is blooming yet.
02:02:44 I'm trying to keep a journal.
02:02:46 Trying to like.
02:02:48 So that you know every year I have like a rough idea as to when start. Things start popping off.
02:02:54 The problem is though it's so dependent, it's so dependent on whenever a big rain comes in.
02:03:00 That, and it's totally random. You know, there's some years where it's like by this time of.
02:03:05 Everything would be super green, and then there's years like this where it's kind of like, well, still hasn't rained yet.
02:03:11 Know be nice.
02:03:14 Atlas rain axis.
02:03:22 I.
02:03:23 Replay, yeah.
02:03:26 Atlas rain access. Devon just dropping off a few shekels in support of your mission.
02:03:30 I appreciate that very, very appreciated.
02:03:36 Blute and Biden.
02:03:39 Now we're getting all wookies tonight.
02:03:43 So I got to redo all these.
02:03:46 Maybe not all of them, but I got.
02:03:47 I'm getting bored of them, so that means you guys got to be bored of them.
02:03:52 Uh.
02:03:54 Blue and Biden, in Trump's first term, he freed rappers like Rocky ASAP from overseas captivity. Now in his second term, the Tate brothers are already free and out of Romania, a real upgrade upgrade.
02:04:10 This prove how wise and Base bluff will be this term.
02:04:15 Well, look.
02:04:19 He knows that the Tates have influence, and he's sucking up to people that have influence. And it's not like Trump is morally, morally has has any moral objections to their lifestyle.
02:04:36 Because I feel like he's had a very similar lifestyle and that's also on a related note why he won't ever get the Epstein stuff.
02:04:45 That's why they tried to play off the fake Epstein stuff.
02:04:48 And then when people notice they're like, well, we're trying real hard to get it.
02:04:52 And they'll they'll look. They'll probably release something. They'll have to release something new at this point.
02:04:57 Politically, they've made.
02:04:58 They've made a mess, so they'll, they'll, they'll.
02:05:02 Well, they'll either release some very sanitized bullshit, you know, highly redacted.
02:05:11 Fact, she's already kind of like laying down the.
02:05:15 The expectation for that.
02:05:16 Pam Bondi made a comment on Jewish Mark Levin show, who, by the way, made mention in that same clip that his.
02:05:27 Zionist Jewish wife was friends, personal friends with Pam Bondi.
02:05:32 So you know, again, she's obviously a.
02:05:35 So any mention of Israel will be stripped from.
02:05:40 Absolutely. There will never be any mention of Israel when it comes to Epstein.
02:05:44 Never in a million fucking years.
02:05:48 The other side of it will be.
02:05:51 Or the other possibility is they will act like the deep state deleted everything. You know what I mean.
02:06:00 I could totally see that.
02:06:03 That that the the damn deep state deleted it all.
02:06:06 Sorry.
02:06:07 Whomp whomp you know, and like that'll be it.
02:06:12 Bluetooth. I was being sarcastic just for the record, I don't care for the Tate brothers.
02:06:18 I got that.
02:06:20 I got.
02:06:20 They're they're white slavers.
02:06:23 Love and division.
Cutting Crew - Just Died in your Arms
02:06:27 I.
Devon Stack
02:06:32 Love and.
02:06:33 I heard Odyssey is going another month before the monetization change.
02:06:37 It's like one of those Jewish owned furniture stores running a perpetual going out of business sale.
02:06:42 By the way, watching the gay rights movement come in during the 1960s, seventies and 80s.
02:06:48 Seemed like a natural fit for the American way.
02:06:51 Well, look.
02:06:52 Look, it's you can all these arguments that they're using are.
02:06:58 It's it's relatable if you're mega.
02:07:02 You know, it's it's 90s liberalism.
02:07:06 And that's mega more so than I guess 90s.
02:07:09 It's 90s liberal because not every Democrat in the 90s was a liberal.
02:07:16 It or not so Maga is to the left of 90s Democrats.
02:07:24 Just they're 90s liberals.
02:07:27 Just like to say Democrat when I talk shit to him because their light switch brained retards and they've they've they've.
02:07:38 They've they've psyoped themselves into accepting the liberal label because they see it as a virtue and and they they feel like we're we're reclaiming the liberal, the liberal label.
02:07:51 I'm a classical liberal, you know.
02:07:54 They used to say I don't. I don't see people saying that so much now, but that's like, you know, people like.
02:08:00 Sargon used to say shit like that.
02:08:02 Where they're trying to reclaim this.
02:08:06 You know, like oh, it's the.
02:08:08 It's the enlightened liberal right, as opposed to the woke, you know, the wokies that took the name liberal and they perverted it like that's that's how they were looking and. And so they're not ashamed of being called a liberal anymore.
02:08:21 So, but you call them a Democrat and they're they they fucking lose their shit.
02:08:28 Let's see here, Russell Mcclintock says.
02:08:31 Your program often demands a remorseful hindsight for those of us who grew up in what you accurately call the very gay 90s, my formative years. And while I yearn for the sweet summers of my youth, I cannot pretend that these perverse monstrosities weren't incubating at the time.
02:08:48 This stuff really bothers.
02:08:50 I can't find humor in it or make jokes, and I certainly can't just dismiss it as clown world or whatever other passive excuses get thrown out there to cope with this stuff.
02:09:03 This stuff really really bothers me. I hope I'm not the only one that feels this very serious.
02:09:11 Yeah, I mean I I, I, I I make light of some of this stuff just because I have a dark sense of humor.
02:09:16 That's the way.
02:09:18 That's the way that I I.
02:09:21 Here's The thing is, if I didn't make jokes about it and I was just.
02:09:28 I I would feel like I was in this.
02:09:32 Like situation where I was watching like a slow motion train wreck to somebody.
02:09:36 To some degree, I still do.
02:09:39 But if I can make it.
02:09:41 A slow motion train wreck with a clown car. You know it's it's something. I don't know. That's not the best, best metaphor, but yeah, it just, I I yelled. Humor sometimes is maybe it is.
02:09:56 Cope, but.
02:09:58 It makes it easier to talk about this stuff sometimes.
02:10:01 Be right.
02:10:02 It's fucking super serious, we.
02:10:05 We as a people, really fucking.
02:10:08 We've lost it.
02:10:09 We've lost what we had and it's not coming back.
02:10:13 Yeah. Again, I'm talking about America here.
02:10:16 The the Pre 1965 Immigration Act.
02:10:21 Are never coming back.
02:10:22 And the morality of the 1940s and 50s, you know, not, you know, World War 2 notwithstanding, but the, you know, the the family structure and and and the leave it to Beaver value system.
02:10:36 The system is.
Jewy Christian Guy
02:10:38 It's not.
Devon Stack
02:10:40 It's just not.
02:10:41 And that's.
02:10:43 I mean it's not fine, but it's.
02:10:46 It's survivable, but thanks for being out there.
02:10:51 Mcclintock, Bessemer.
02:10:53 I.
Libertarian
02:10:54 Hear the noise.
Money Clip
02:11:00 I.
Audience Member
02:11:03 What?
Devon Stack
02:11:05 Hi Devon. Crossfire was on TCM this morning.
02:11:09 So I recorded it.
02:11:10 Love the weirdo husband guy telling his wife or his life story to anyone that'll listen while people were thinking TMI, dude.
02:11:20 I think the hooker was attracted to nutty men and they had the Magic Jew.
02:11:25 Thanks for all you do.
02:11:27 It's. Yeah, it's a very heavy-handed, very heavy, especially at the end.
02:11:32 You know, the one thing that it's that I I forgot to mention that was clever of them when they had that retarded guy from Tennessee.
02:11:43 The the two reasons why they had him retarded was 1 so that you would think Southerners were retarded because that's, you know, a never ending narrative in in Hollywood films.
02:11:55 But the other side of it was.
02:11:57 They could talk to you like a retard.
02:12:00 And and not insult the audience.
02:12:03 Like the audience would be like. Oh, no, it's fine that they're that they're talking like we're fucking idiots because he's talking to an idiot and that guy's from Tennessee.
02:12:11 Needs to be talked to like you know, so you can sit there and.
02:12:15 Walk them through.
02:12:17 Why anti-Semitism is bad like they were a fucking retard?
02:12:22 Because.
02:12:24 They were talking to a a, a retard, and so this was a it was a great way to to deliver the message.
02:12:33 To audiences without them taking offense to you being too preachy because they thought, Oh no, it's necessary because of the character.
02:12:43 Snake oil politics says, hey, buddy, here's some money.
02:12:48 And then.
02:12:51 I thought.
02:12:52 Why every time I?
02:12:53 Look for this fucking button. It's missing.
02:12:57 Anyway, oh, here it is.
Jesse
02:12:58 Heil Hitler, bitch.
Devon Stack
02:13:01 Russell Mcclintock says do you ever take calls through stream yard?
02:13:04 I don't use stream yard. I've called into Mr. Hypocrite show a few times and we have great talks.
02:13:12 I would call it your show. I've also thought about having my own show in Odysee.
02:13:18 Thank you so much for the show.
02:13:19 Really.
02:13:20 You are a smart and helpful dude.
02:13:23 Yeah, I don't use stream yard.
02:13:24 I've never done calls. I've thought about maybe doing like a call in show, but I've just never done it.
02:13:31 Because I I don't.
02:13:32 I never want to like rock the boat with my.
02:13:36 My bandwidth but also you know I got a format that I feel like works with a good thing.
02:13:42 Yeah, like if you want to do a show on on Odyssey, I yeah, highly recommend.
02:13:50 Giving it a go.
02:13:52 If you got something to say.
02:13:54 There's plenty of platforms for you.
02:13:56 Say it, so I would definitely, you know, give it a shot.
02:14:00 My lying eye says explain exactly why lesbians don't exist for the layman. If we are on the same page, I concur.
02:14:10 Yeah. I just think that there every lesbian story back story I've ever heard, every single one of them.
02:14:15 And I mean every single one of them.
02:14:19 They've at some point in their life been attracted to men.
02:14:22 Sometimes they're lesbians for a while, and then they go back to men and they go back to.
02:14:27 You know and.
02:14:30 That's that's almost universal.
02:14:32 That look, I'm sure there's cases where that's not the case, but like.
02:14:35 Almost universal lesbians at one point in time have craved cock.
02:14:42 And that's just the way that it is and.
02:14:46 Many of there's also not.
02:14:47 It's also not a weird coincidence that so many lesbians.
02:14:55 Are really unattractive fat bitches.
02:14:58 And they don't get male attention.
02:15:01 And so they maybe and and you know, what do you want to be charitable?
02:15:06 You could even say some of these girls were maybe molested.
02:15:11 Maybe by their step.
02:15:13 Or by some man in their life that they trusted, so that fucks them up.
02:15:17 They intentionally get fat to make themselves not attractive to men because of that.
02:15:25 Situation and you know voila, you've got she doesn't get any attention from men and doesn't trust men anymore.
02:15:35 And now she's a lesbian.
02:15:36 But that's what I mean.
02:15:38 Is that you know?
02:15:41 No one's born a lesbian.
02:15:45 Opera, Commodore.
02:15:47 Hey, Devon. The West has been in decline since Germany lost both world wars.
02:15:53 Uh. Uh.
02:15:54 World jewelry one and plunged the world in darkness and degeneracy.
02:16:00 Hopeless whites will wake up and unite against this evil, but hey, at least we're not speaking German, right?
02:16:06 If Germany would have won the world.
02:16:09 Would won. The world would be better? Yeah, most likely.
02:16:14 Most likely.
02:16:17 Beauforty.
02:16:18 Hey Dev, are you familiar with?
02:16:21 Who Kerry Mullis was inventor of the PCR test and is on multiple videos talking about how PCR was not designed to test for infectious diseases.
02:16:32 Died right before the pandemic.
02:16:34 Yeah. No, I I'm aware of that guy.
02:16:36 And yeah, died under mysterious circumstances.
02:16:42 Diogenes. Hey, Devon. Have you ever watched the movies?
02:16:47 I have cited but it's OK.
02:16:52 Wait, have you ever watched the movies I have cited?
02:16:55 Don't know which.
02:16:56 But it's OK.
02:16:58 Loved crossfire.
02:16:59 Check out focus from from 2001. A Jew cry baby yarn about anti-Semitism against suspected Jews after World War.
02:17:16 All right, I'll copy that.
02:17:20 And you say watch those javelinas they are mean mofos.
02:17:23 Hope churros OK.
02:17:24 Also, Zappa not a Jew had some good takes on US culture.
02:17:29 Yeah, I looked into it after the show. 'cause people were saying that he just he looks so fucking.
02:17:35 Like he looks.
02:17:36 He looks like the the first Jew ever.
02:17:39 He looks like the Jew that all other Jews were based on.
Jewy Christian Guy
02:17:43 Uh.
Devon Stack
02:17:43 He just looks so super.
02:17:45 I just thought he was Jewish, like my whole life.
02:17:46 Thought he was Jewish because he looked so Jewish.
02:17:50 But yeah, yeah, Churro has.
02:17:54 He hasn't been home today, but he came back yesterday.
02:17:59 I'll I'll kind of fucked up and scratched up and missing part of his ear.
02:18:02 So that means he's been out doing the wild thing. I think 'cause that's it's that time of year when spring hits, he goes out and he comes back all fucked up from, I don't know, battling.
02:18:14 Male cats or you know.
02:18:16 Cat sex is not exactly consensual.
02:18:20 And so I don't. If he's out, like been he's been out raping.
02:18:26 But he came back all kind of.
02:18:27 Not not like super messed up like kind of messed up and he'll be fine.
02:18:34 And I.
02:18:35 Fed him and and he slept all day.
02:18:39 Then he he was gone again.
02:18:41 Late last night he took off and he's been gone since so.
02:18:46 Yeah, it's that time of year. He he's. I think he's out raping. The government.
02:19:03 The government says Devon, you are one of the only people I watch.
02:19:08 You for your time.
02:19:09 I appreciate it.
02:19:10 Government.
02:19:12 Russell Mcclintock says I fought in Iraq and it was awful.
02:19:16 I shamed my civilian friends and family for cheering the Ukraine Palestine bloodbath.
02:19:22 I shamed them mercilessly.
02:19:24 War is sickening and hearing Americans clamoring for it.
02:19:28 Is like the fucking soup or like it's the fucking Super Bowl is sickening.
02:19:32 Just curious if blue Cord was in the infantry?
02:19:36 You'd have to ask blue cord there.
02:19:39 And yeah, now a lot of people.
02:19:42 To them, it is a video game and a lot of that has to deal with the fact that war has not been.
02:19:49 Present.
02:19:50 With, you know, in America for a very long time for like, well, since the the Civil War really. I mean, maybe there's minor incidences, you know, incidents here and there, but there hasn't been like an environment of war.
02:20:08 With our our at least in the you know the lower or the lower 48.
02:20:16 In a very, very long time, I mean obviously Hawaii with Pearl Harbor and stuff, but like.
02:20:22 You know, aside from that, it's that's why no one's.
02:20:27 One gets.
02:20:27 It's kind of like I I don't know if this is a true story, but I remember when I was in school, our history teacher said that when the Civil War first broke out in one of the first battles, or maybe this was Gettysburg, I forget. But in one.
02:20:42 That to a population center.
02:20:44 A lot of locals thought, oh, how entertaining, and they went out and they brought like umbrellas and and like chairs. And they set up and to watch.
02:20:55 The battlefield, as if it was some like a football game. And then it got really horrifying. And you know, like.
02:21:04 They ended up, you know, running for their lives. But that was just out of touch they were.
02:21:10 Were just like, oh, amusing.
02:21:12 Go watch the battlefield.
02:21:14 And so I just think that's how people are.
02:21:19 Until they have to actually live it.
02:21:21 Sicky race hater, says Devon.
02:21:24 You're an extraordinary talent. I listen to the insomnia stream daily at work, on replay and cannot thank you enough for everything that you do.
02:21:32 I appreciate.
02:21:33 Not sure how you doing it daily though. I guess like there's enough insomnia streams now to where you could you could do.
02:21:38 Daily for.
02:21:40 For over a year.
02:21:41 So if you really go back in time, I think most of them are Evergreen too. I don't think there's definitely some that are top.
02:21:52 News, but I try to make stuff that you could listen to like this one for.
02:21:59 You could listen to this in in like 5 years and it would still, you know, be relevant.
02:22:05 You know, this may be some of.
02:22:08 The the context of me when I talk about the Epstein stuff that might not, you know, land anymore, but.
02:22:17 I I try to make content that's Evergreen.
02:22:20 I appreciate the kind words Vladimir Kay says.
02:22:23 Truth is, most Ukrainians are insanely delusional about the West, about Russia, et cetera. They thought they would join the EU and automatically become rich.
02:22:34 Or that almighty us would help them win the war with boots on the ground.
02:22:39 USA in their head is Hollywood Usus from the 90s, where everyone's rich etcetera. That is absolutely true.
02:22:47 Absolutely true.
02:22:50 I knew a a girl from Ukraine who learned English by watching friends.
02:22:58 She just watched, like every episode of friends and was like, super into friends. And then she got into like Harry Potter.
02:23:07 And that's how she learned English. And so she had this very romantic view of of what America was like and and then she ended up going to.
02:23:19 'Cause she oh, and and she also watched, like, some Mexican novellas, right?
02:23:24 And it had, like the I don't know if you've ever watched a Mexican novella, but they they don't have, like, the little brown Mexicans in Mexican novellas.
02:23:34 Like the whitest Mexican, you know, like the the Shakira looking Mexicans in novellas.
02:23:40 And so they basically like Spaniards. And then she went to Texas.
02:23:47 On some kind of like like when she was younger, some kind of like exchange thing. It was like I think it was like a lifeguard exchange.
02:23:58 And.
02:23:59 Was immediately sexually harassed by a bunch of illegal immigrants and was just like, what the fuck and just. And then everything about America was so much worse than anything she'd ever seen.
02:24:12 And. But you're right, it and she still.
02:24:15 You know, she still believed in in the TV like it was.
02:24:22 When she would say, oh, I just saw this on TV.
02:24:24 Like. Yeah, that's, that's propaganda.
02:24:27 And.
02:24:30 That that was like a difficult concept.
02:24:32 Some reason I don't know.
02:24:33 I don't know if that's because I don't have a whole lot of experience living in Eastern Europe, so I don't know. Like, is that local to Ukraine or eastern? You would think E Europeans would be a little wiser to propaganda because of the.
02:24:50 You know the Soviet Union and whatnot improved on everything.
02:24:54 But it seemed like, yeah, they're they're and there was this sense. I think it's because of their their passport situation too, right?
02:25:03 It's real difficult if you're Ukrainian and you want to.
02:25:08 You know, travel the world or whatever.
02:25:11 It's not like an American like an American can just you can pretty much go if you have an American passport, you can pretty much.
02:25:17 Wherever you want and.
02:25:20 An EU passport.
02:25:21 Let's you go anywhere in the EU.
02:25:24 And so that was, that's like a big deal for a lot of Ukrainians. Is they really wanted to get that EU passport? Because honestly, I think to leave to leave Ukraine.
02:25:36 But it was, yeah, it was never going to happen.
02:25:38 It was never going to happen.
02:25:39 It was literally never going to happen and it's so fucked up that they convinced everyone that it was or that America was going to come save the day.
02:25:47 You know it just like.
02:25:50 But it's not. I don't think it's 'cause they're they're idiots, I think.
02:25:54 Think they're lied to?
02:25:56 They're they're just, there's a lot of propaganda that's pumped into that place.
02:26:02 In fact, I was kind of depressing last time it was, it was still very innocent when I left the when I was there last time, and I remember.
02:26:12 In fact, on one of those same kinds of trains that you that I saw, like all the old men with young girls, they had these TV's that played, I'm assuming Ukrainian television and they had like a Ukrainian version.
02:26:27 Of.
02:26:30 On some kind of it was like a talent, you know?
02:26:31 Talent.
02:26:32 Like the Americas Got Talent or whatever the fuck kind of thing, and already it was. I.
02:26:40 Glanced up.
02:26:42 And they had like, like I want to say like a 13 year old girl basically.
02:26:47 Pole dancing.
02:26:48 And I was like, what the fuck?
02:26:50 Like what the fuck is this shit?
02:26:53 And so I think that you know that the degenerate poison was was starting to spread out there.
02:27:03 'Cause, otherwise least the the ones I knew that the Ukrainians, I I affiliated with were very, very socially conservative, very, you know, Orthodox, you know, like not not.
02:27:18 I mean not like weird, but like, you know, very, you know, very like socially conservative and very kind of naive too.
02:27:25 Would have to say.
02:27:28 Anyway.
02:27:30 The my forest, my forest, I think is that's how you would say it.
02:27:35 Ukrainian war was never anything but a genocide of the Ukrainian people.
02:27:39 There have been a million Ukrainian men killed and at least 2 million wounded, many permanently crippled horrendous tragedy. Exactly.
02:27:48 And and then and they're not going to get what they wanted.
02:27:50 It'll ultimately be for nothing which really fucking sucks.
02:27:55 Russell Mcclintock says if I did a program in Odyssey, would you be willing to come on as my first guest?
02:28:01 I don't know about your first guest.
02:28:04 Have to see.
02:28:05 See how your.
02:28:06 That's for a little while first.
02:28:10 I.
02:28:12 You can't.
02:28:12 Just you.
02:28:12 Just I'm not going to partner up with you right off the bat. You got to.
02:28:16 You know you.
02:28:18 You gotta make a name for yourself. I mean, look.
02:28:22 If you can keep a regular show going for a while, it doesn't have to be massive or like that.
02:28:26 I go on small shows, but you know you maintain a show, get a show going, make sure it's like an actual show.
02:28:35 Know I'll. I'll probably go on, you know.
02:28:39 But yeah, do at least do a few shows.
02:28:41 How it?
02:28:42 First, make sure you got a.
02:28:44 And you get into your rhythm and.
02:28:49 You know, have a show first.
02:28:52 The Fubar Nation.
02:29:00 Oh.
02:29:03 Fubar Nation.
02:29:04 Just simply says thank you.
02:29:06 Then love and.
02:29:08 Devon, you have or have you ever done anything on the giant skeletons that were rounded up by the Smithsonian?
02:29:17 You know.
02:29:19 I know you're talking about.
02:29:26 I don't know how real that.
02:29:28 Like I know that there were articles written in the newspaper about giant skeletons in.
02:29:36 Caves, or at least the the one for sure, was a newspaper article written about caves in in the Grand Canyon.
02:29:46 And there was, like, giant.
02:29:49 Swords and shit like that that they supposedly found. And I know a lot of locals that believe the lore and stuff like that, but it's like.
02:29:59 I don't know if that happened.
02:30:03 There's if you look at old newspapers from that era, there's some reporting that is not, you know, exactly.
02:30:11 Fake news has always existed and and stories to sell papers have have always existed.
02:30:18 And sometimes there's there's goofy.
02:30:20 Probably didn't.
02:30:21 Stories in old newspapers, and so I don't know.
02:30:25 Don't know if that's one of.
02:30:26 I I I'm not against the idea of it happening, but I'd have to see some evidence.
02:30:33 Of their existence beyond just some of these old newspapers that are like, well, you know, maybe they were trying to sell newspapers to gold miners. You know what I mean? So who knows.
02:30:49 White cake says.
02:30:52 Saying gay.
02:30:54 Is an oxymoron.
02:30:56 How would?
02:30:57 How would the gene propagate besides being?
02:31:01 I think a reason people feel repulsion to gays is they are genetic dead ends.
02:31:06 Plus, they're not worth the tribe contributing resources into.
02:31:10 Well, that and they are corrupters of youth.
02:31:14 Because they they do reproduce in a manner of speaking, they reproduce by corrupting youth and making more fags by molesting kids and stuff like that.
02:31:25 They're not just dead ends, they're a danger to your genetic.
02:31:33 Uh.
02:31:34 Progress.
02:31:36 Because they potentially pose a threat to the reproductive capabilities of your children and all the children of the community.
02:31:46 And so that is.
02:31:47 That's that's why I think people have a natural repulsion and a natural desire to keep them away from children and look in this country, we used to do that.
02:31:57 I did that video called logos propaganda.
02:32:00 Uh, years ago, it's still on.
02:32:03 In fact, where uh, I go over that.
02:32:10 Educational video that John Wayne helped fund warning children about fags and uh yeah, it's it's.
02:32:20 We used to do that.
02:32:21 We used to warn children about fags and we don't warn and that that wasn't the only video there's. There are lots of videos in the 60s and 70s that were produced and shown to school children warning them about fags.
02:32:34 Because everyone.
02:32:35 Kind of understood.
02:32:37 That fags will will seek to molest children, and that's another reason why people are are are loathe to see them adopt children or have children through other unnatural means.
02:32:55 And you're right. Yeah, if it was.
02:32:56 It was a if there was gay genes, they would.
02:32:59 Bred themselves out, right?
02:33:02 I mean, I can see again there being some kind of.
02:33:07 Predisposition, perhaps, for that kind of behavior, because it is something that's always existed, right?
02:33:13 It.
02:33:14 It is something that all throughout history there's always fags. It seems like and so.
02:33:21 There's probably some kind of biological component to it, but.
02:33:30 Not one that can't be eradicated.
Leanidous
02:33:41 Get in the pit.
Devon Stack
02:33:55 Oops, I'm near the wrong one.
02:33:57 Go go over to rumble.
02:34:02 And we've got.
02:34:08 Da da da da da.
02:34:11 One of these days I'll have a better way.
02:34:13 Of doing this.
02:34:18 Here we are.
02:34:20 COVID patient zero.
02:34:21 Hey, Devon, huge fan since 2016.
02:34:25 You have been a huge inspiration to me.
02:34:28 You influenced my view.
02:34:30 I got a cute girlfriend.
02:34:31 She is now my wife and we have a kid look at that.
02:34:35 Look at that covered patient 0 is.
02:34:39 Out repopulating the world with more white genetics.
02:34:42 Or at least I'm. I'm making that assumption that's in my mind.
02:34:46 It's white.
02:34:46 Everything's white that scenario.
02:34:52 It's good to have an old head around and.
02:34:56 And now that's that's that's awesome that you guys have that you have that, that family star, that dynasty has begun.
02:35:05 So make sure you make sure you start paving that way.
02:35:10 And then you continue.
02:35:11 We are moving out of the.
02:35:12 City and start a small there you go and just start a small dynasty and always remember guys quote if the situation was helpless, their propaganda wouldn't be necessary.
02:35:25 Greetings from Germany.
02:35:27 That is true in this people forget that.
02:35:30 The thing is.
02:35:32 In order for them to keep the world in the unnatural state that it is in, they have to.
02:35:38 They can never let up, but likewise people don't.
02:35:43 They don't realize that neither can we.
02:35:46 Neither can.
02:35:48 One of the reasons why I get a a.
02:35:53 Maybe cranky with all the maga tards that are like, oh, we're winning. We're winning so hard is really that leads to.
02:36:04 To just to.
02:36:08 I mean not going back.
02:36:09 The norm is going back to sleep, but yeah, people assuming, oh, the fights, it's done. We won.
02:36:14 We voted.
02:36:15 We, we.
02:36:17 We voted so we won. The right people are in charge.
02:36:20 They're taking care of everything now for us.
02:36:22 Don't have.
02:36:22 We can go back to our mundane lives and not have to worry about it and and just assume that that they've got this covered when that's exactly what led to our situation now.
02:36:32 You can never trust these fucking people to have it covered because of all the things we talked about tonight. There is no.
02:36:40 Shared value system between you and Trump.
02:36:43 There's not. There's not a shared value system between you and Vance.
02:36:47 There's not a shared value system between you and Pam Bondi.
02:36:50 There's not a shared value system between you and Pete Hegseth.
02:36:53 There's not a shared value system between you and Kash Patel.
02:36:56 There's not a shared value system between you and the majority of people in power. In fact, the vast majority of people in power, they do not see the world the way that you do.
02:37:07 They don't have the same motivations. They don't have the same hopes and dreams. They don't have the same fears.
02:37:12 And so for you to assume that people like that would have your interests at heart is insane.
02:37:17 And so you can't let up the fight.
02:37:20 In fact, the only situation in which you can do that is what I was talking about with kids where they don't have to worry about it because you know, hopefully at least they have good parents and their parents do love them.
02:37:33 Their parents do have the same value system their parents do want. Want what's best for them. And so their parents. You can trust them to do the right thing.
02:37:41 And I think that's what it is. Is most people want to go back to childhood the same in the same way that most people are nostalgic and want to go back to the 90s.
02:37:49 Part of that is they want to go back to being a kid without any responsibilities, without having to know what the fuck Ukraine even is without having to know what Palestine is.
02:37:58 They want to go back to when they can just sit there and fucking play Minecraft and Pokémon all day and collect pogs or whatever the fuck and everything is cool. And because Mommy and Daddy are going to take care of it, that's what they want.
02:38:09 That's what most people want.
02:38:11 And you know what?
02:38:12 Not even that.
02:38:14 Disgusting to me because if you go.
02:38:16 Back generations, and unfortunately at this point, it's actually at this point, centuries you go back centuries and maybe.
02:38:25 The ruling class isn't always looking out for what's best for you, but you have a lot more fucking in common with them. When you had actual nation states made-up of people that were of the same.
02:38:37 Genetic heritage of the same value system, the same religion. I mean that you had a lot more in common with your fellow countrymen and the ruling class.
02:38:47 And so yeah.
02:38:49 Maybe they're not always looking out for the little guy, but you can to some extent trust them to not be actively selling you out to fucking everybody all the time and and and looking out just for themselves.
02:39:02 They at least feel some kind of connection to their people.
02:39:04 That's not how it is anymore, and the more people.
02:39:10 Try to convince themselves that because they voted in base, Trump is around watching the, you know, mining the mining, the store.
02:39:18 And so they can just, you know, go back to playing video games and smoking pot all day.
02:39:24 It's it's, that's that's.
02:39:26 What? Where, why? How we got in this mess and we can never let up.
02:39:30 We will never be able to let up.
02:39:33 And.
02:39:33 And until we can get a nation of our own where it's all people like you.
02:39:39 Where and it's people that see the world the way that you do and have the same religion you do and the same objectives and the same.
02:39:50 You know philosophy.
02:39:52 And maybe there's even a genetic connection, like your families there. And by the way, this is something none of us listening to this are going to have in our lifetimes until we get to a state like that.
02:40:01 Really can't just.
02:40:05 Trust and you never, I guess in any society, 100% should trust the people in charge.
02:40:09 But you can't even like.
Cutting Crew - Just Died in your Arms
02:40:11 Let.
Devon Stack
02:40:11 Off a little bit until you get a situation like that.
02:40:19 But yeah, good luck on the dynasty. And thank you for the support COVID patient zero. You and your lady. And and little little one, Rupert says.
02:40:33 Now there's the resident Jeet here. I work with a fag and I can say fag to their face.
02:40:39 I'm just.
02:40:39 I can't say fag to their face, so I just say it here. Faggot.
Money Clip
02:40:45 Faggots.
Devon Stack
02:40:47 You can say it to his face.
02:40:49 Come on, come.
02:40:50 Be be a real Jeet.
02:40:52 What? What's he gonna do?
02:40:56 He gonna do.
02:40:58 Call him a racist.
02:40:58 If he, if he does anything.
02:41:02 On your merry much a faggot, yes.
02:41:05 I.
02:41:08 Rupert again says good night, captain Stack.
02:41:11 Gonna catch a replay. Will I appreciate that.
02:41:16 And scrolling down, scrolling down, scrolling down.
02:41:23 Oh the the the scrolling down game and on on Rumble.
02:41:27 We go.
02:41:28 Ah, pentacles says. Thank you again.
02:41:33 Well, white power.
02:41:34 That.
02:41:38 And then we got.
02:41:42 Oop negro spritzer, of course, predictably.
02:41:47 Has given us his input.
02:41:50 On the the usual suspects, however, this time also emphasizes his.
02:41:58 His dislike of.
Porn Jew
02:41:59 Faggots.
Devon Stack
02:42:02 Oh, now we have.
02:42:05 It looks kind of like your name is faggot.
02:42:09 Fat, fat. I don't know.
02:42:12 I don't know how to say that.
02:42:15 First time Donna found your stuff since the.
02:42:17 Remembered, I watched a good low budget horror film a few years ago in 2018.
02:42:23 Killers were cross dressers. Interesting to watch, something like that.
02:42:30 Or something that good these days.
02:42:34 Movie is incident in the Ghost land.
02:42:38 Incident in the ghost land.
02:42:41 Alright, I might take a look at that.
02:42:47 But also welcome, welcome, welcome.
02:42:51 And that's.
02:42:53 I'll do double check back over at Odysee.
02:42:58 Oh, we got a few more.
02:42:59 At the end we got Russell, Mcclintock says.
02:43:03 A very fair reply, Sir. Thank you.
02:43:04 I will work towards getting a program together.
02:43:07 You know, let us know and.
02:43:09 We'll check it out.
02:43:11 And then we got paragliding enthusiast says I'm so tired of seeing these street shitters and dysgenic Somalians on the road. They seem to be starting to outnumber American truck drivers.
02:43:24 They are undercutting our rates and taking over the industry.
02:43:28 It's depressing. Anyway. I love the show and everything you do for our folk sending.
02:43:36 Sending cancel hyper. I don't know what that means.
02:43:41 Yeah, I'll tell you, there's a.
02:43:43 There's.
02:43:43 Truck stop.
02:43:46 Quite a distance from me, but because it's in the direction of a place or a city, I go to, sometimes I end up at it and it's it's like a major truck stop and the truckers I see. And I I'm I'm there all hours of the day to get.
02:44:05 Gas and whether I've been there in the morning, noon or four in the morning or midnight, whatever.
02:44:13 It's it's never white guys like, never white guys.
02:44:19 It's Arab looking guys with like, Bluetooth headsets most of the time or African looking guys with Bluetooth headsets.
02:44:28 They all have Bluetooth headsets.
02:44:29 It's like, yeah, yeah. It's honestly The funny thing is, they're almost indistinguishable from, like Uber drivers, you know, like, you get an Uber.
02:44:38 And it's some Arab guy who's yammering on his Bluetooth the whole drive in some bizarre language.
02:44:48 That is.
02:44:50 The truck drivers.
02:44:51 Now that's that's. That's what, that's who they hire.
02:44:58 And that's been my experience for like, the whole time I've lived out here.
02:45:03 They're, I'm sure I've on accidents seem like a white truck driver and just thought he was a.
02:45:08 Or something coming through.
02:45:09 But yeah, the vast majority of the truck drivers I see at that place are.
02:45:15 Are dark complected.
02:45:18 And then we got my lying eyes.
02:45:23 If you had to live in a major urban metropolis out of New York City, San Francisco, LA, or DC, which would it be?
02:45:35 Hmm.
02:45:38 If you had to.
02:45:42 I mean depends on if you got to pick the neighborhood. If you got to pick the neighborhood, probably not LA.
02:45:48 Under any circumstances.
02:45:52 Probably not DC.
02:45:56 San Francisco has nice neighborhoods that are on the outskirts enough.
02:46:04 To where?
02:46:07 Get out of California's fucking beautiful. Like that whole area is beautiful.
02:46:11 And the weather's amazing and the beaches are great.
02:46:15 Mean the water's.
02:46:15 They're not like you know what's good.
02:46:18 It's cold 'cause. It's not like they're not diversity beaches. You know what, I.
02:46:21 Like, it's not like Miami Beach, where it's like, oh fuck. You know where? Where am I?
02:46:26 You know the fucking Congo? No, it's.
02:46:29 The water is cold, so you don't have like diversity hanging out in the beaches.
02:46:33 You got highway 1.
02:46:35 You know, you got Santa Cruz and like, look, all the people are fucking.
02:46:41 Total fucking Lib shit, fuckheads and diversity these days, I guess.
02:46:46 But the the natural beauty is, you know, you got the redwoods there, you got, you know, you go north, you got Napa, you got the delta.
02:46:56 I mean, as much as I, if it wasn't for the people, I'd fucking love California. You know.
02:47:04 New York City.
02:47:06 I don't think I would ever like, but I I feel like it.
02:47:10 Could be fun for a while. You know? Like I feel like.
02:47:15 That would have to do with your income too.
02:47:16 What if you could choose the neighborhood?
02:47:18 There's there's parts of Manhattan and stuff that are really nice and you could insulate yourself from all the madness and to some extent, not all of it, but to a lot of it.
02:47:31 The problem there is you're.
02:47:33 You're still like, locked in, like, you're locked into that city. You're always in that oppressive, you know, environment of giant buildings and and and also like the people suck. And there's a lot of diversity. And there's a lot of tourists and it's just loud and fucking.
02:47:50 You know, I think New York, I could do maybe for a while if I if I was like in my 20s and I was it was, it wasn't forever.
02:48:00 Was just like experience. That and stuff maybe.
02:48:05 But I think California, at least, I know as much as it sucks for every other reason.
02:48:11 It's the natural beauty is is there.
02:48:15 And so I just wouldn't spend time in the urban area I.
02:48:17 I.
02:48:18 New York's kind of the same way.
02:48:19 I guess you can go to like upstate New York and.
02:48:21 That, but it's it's easier to to get out of San Francisco than it is to get out of New York.
02:48:30 Yeah, that's it.
02:48:32 Oh, we.
02:48:32 Looks like one more.
02:48:35 Snuck into Rumble, and then we'll shut her down.
02:48:38 We got Randolph White Wolf.
02:48:40 Your streams have taught me a lot. I know you're right about Trump advance not being our guys, but I do like that they're calling out European leaders and trying to end the.
02:48:50 Ukraine war.
02:48:52 Well, we'll see. We'll see.
02:48:53 All.
02:48:54 How that unfolds ultimately.
02:48:57 As much as as Trump, the Trump Russia stuff, the way it was portrayed in the media is pretty fucking retarded.
02:49:05 Trump does have Russian ties.
02:49:08 They're.
02:49:09 Just Jewish Russian ties.
02:49:11 They're just Chabad ties.
02:49:15 And I'm not so unsure.
02:49:18 Not so well.
02:49:18 I'm not so sure that that doesn't plan to.
02:49:23 Going on right now.
02:49:25 So anyway with that.
02:49:30 We're going to shut her down and wait.
02:49:33 We got one last one here. We got paragliding enthusiast says.
02:49:37 How does someone deal with watching us being replaced knowing there's nothing we can do about it and it's crazy to me how many Europeans can care less about it.
02:49:48 I think Europeans haven't lived it yet.
02:49:51 I think that boomers never had to live it because they they watched it on TV and it looked fine on TV, but they all went to schools that were mostly white and they all work jobs that were mostly white.
02:50:05 And they all, if they made enough money, move to neighborhoods that were mostly white.
02:50:10 So.
02:50:10 They never really had to deal with it.
02:50:13 And the people that are younger than them are just now barely starting to get into positions of power.
02:50:20 But we're really gonna have to wait.
02:50:21 Well, you know.
02:50:22 People like Trump keel over.
02:50:24 Not.
02:50:25 I mean, you know, it's he's.
02:50:27 Whatever how we got like, 10 more years of boomers, realistically and.
02:50:34 Then you know Gen. X will start filtering in.
02:50:36 We'll see if they do any better of a job, I don't know.
02:50:39 It's it's.
02:50:41 You know, it's a little doubtful.
02:50:43 But we'll see.
02:50:44 And in Europe, it's just they don't they they were watching the Hollywood movies about diversity being great without having to experience it.
02:50:53 They they were kind of like under the same spell. All the movies they watched about how racist America was and how.
02:51:01 You know, how abused.
02:51:01 All the minorities were and and they got like big, you know, like a big head about all that thinking like, oh, we're so much more culture than the fucking racist hillbilly Americans. And they, rather than realizing their error, many of them are doubling down.
02:51:19 And.
02:51:20 I don't know how to explain.
02:51:22 I other than it's there is unfortunately there's a genetic aspect to white people with this suicidal altruism that that, that causes this. And I think it requires.
02:51:35 Unfortunately.
02:51:38 Great.
02:51:41 Tragedy and loss of life before.
02:51:44 Before white people start growing a pair because it's just it's it's look, it's not we. We've talked about this lots of times, but it's just the way it is is we're genetically.
02:51:58 We've been bred to be civilized civilians and.
02:52:05 Where when you pump in uncivilized when you have a bunch of of golden retrievers and then you invite a bunch of wolves into the house.
02:52:17 The Golden Retrievers are going to get fucked up.
02:52:22 That's one way of looking at it.
02:52:24 Alright, guys, we're gonna shut it down.
02:52:27 Thanks for being out here.
02:52:28 Be back on Wednesday.
02:52:30 I might have a bee pill.
02:52:32 Ready for you by then? No promises.
02:52:35 Maybe a cactus pill too, because I got some cactus.
02:52:38 I gotta plant.
02:52:40 Or it's going to die.
02:52:43 And I can actually do an update if you guys remember some of the ones that I planted, the last cactus pill which was years ago.
02:52:49 They're kind of big now, so I can show.
02:52:51 Some of those.
02:52:52 Anyway, I'm going to.
02:52:56 Finally, go to sleep now. So in the meantime.
02:53:00 For Black Pilled, I am, of course Devon Stack.
Dr. Judith Wallerstein
02:53:07 Watch this.
Jenny Jones
02:53:14 Was it that great?
Black Guy
02:53:19 That's not great. That's terrible.
02:53:22 I mean, what are you going to do with the radio antenna?
02:53:24 Nothing, that's what.
02:53:26 So I failed to see what's being accomplished here. When you destroy someone's property, it's just not funny or cool.
02:53:34 How would you feel if someone trashed all your stuff like that?
02:53:37 Listen, there are a lot of ways to have a good.
02:53:40 Time but.
02:53:41 Destroying someone else's property just isn't one of them.
Black Son
02:53:46 Hey there, listen to game on the radio.
Black Dad
02:53:48 Sure, why not?
02:53:54 Oh no, someone's busted my antenna.
Black Guy
02:54:02 And that's one to grow on.
Devon Stack
02:54:08 All right. Autistic radio fact, it wouldn't have mattered because those were AM stations.
02:54:15 Was tuning around on and that antenna is only for FM.
02:54:19 Right.
02:54:20 Good night.