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INSOMNIA STREAM: MONKEY ON A STICK EDITION.mp3

03/12/2025
German Numbers Lady
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Peter Gabriel – Shock the Monkey
00:00:54 When I love.
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00:03:00 Cover me when I.
00:04:46 I don't know what I got.
00:04:46 And then fall asleep.
Pixies – Monkey Gone to Heaven
00:04:54 Built about 10,000,000 lbs of sludge from New York.
00:04:58 And New Jersey.
00:05:31 Sucked in a hole now.
Peter Gabriel – Shock the Monkey
00:05:34 Sky.
Pixies – Monkey Gone to Heaven
00:05:39 And the ground sounds cold, and it's the ground side smoke. Everything burns will all take turns. I'll get my.
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Devon Stack
00:07:42 Welcome.
00:07:44 To the insomnia string that I just realized, my little voice Dealy thing is not working. There we go. There we go. It's working now.
00:07:53 Welcome to the Insomnia stream monkey on a stick edition.
00:07:58 I'm your host, of course. Devon stank.
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00:08:44 We'll see. In the meantime, of course, Rumble is working. Odyssey said they're working on something. I don't know, but whatever.
00:08:53 The show must go on. That's the number one rule.
00:08:58 The show must go on, it doesn't matter.
00:09:01 Rain, sleet, snow.
00:09:04 We must continue.
00:09:07 The insomnia stream and tonight.
00:09:12 We're going to talk about a Communist propaganda film.
00:09:17 That was made 30 years apart.
00:09:21 They made it once and I believe 1958.
00:09:26 And then again, they made it 1986.
00:09:32 And I I I love it when they do these things.
00:09:36 Because you can go and look and see.
00:09:39 How they might have tailored it to the different audiences at the time? How? How the messaging might have changed.
00:09:46 Or how it might have stayed the same?
00:09:49 And this is a perfect opportunity.
00:09:52 30.
00:09:53 For exactly that.
00:09:55 The film was directed by Stanley Kramer.
00:10:01 A Jew from New York.
00:10:03 Who? Steven Spielberg called one of the greatest.
00:10:07 Film makers of all time.
00:10:10 So you know, it's got to be good.
00:10:13 I was written by.
00:10:15 Harold Jacob Smith, who might be Jewish.
00:10:20 I don't know. It's hard to find a whole lot of information on this guy. He was born in 1912 in New York.
00:10:28 And Harold, Jacob sounds very jewy Smith, not so much. But we all know about Hollywood Jews, so I don't know. Jury's still out on that.
00:10:39 And nedrick young.
00:10:41 Who went by a bunch of different names because.
00:10:45 Well, during the 1950s, partially as a result of movies like of movies like this.
00:10:52 He was called to testify.
00:10:54 In front of the House Committee on Unamerican activities.
00:10:58 And refused to answer whether or not.
00:11:00 He was a communist.
00:11:02 And so he was blacklisted. And you know, the Jews didn't care. They still let you work under a different name. So he.
00:11:09 Worked on some other movies but.
00:11:11 One of the sad things is.
00:11:14 When you look at, especially when you watch this movie, you might think in in some ways it's pretty tame compared to, well, definitely compared to the stuff you see today.
00:11:26 But it's sad to think that in 1958 this movie aired, or rather, went to theaters.
00:11:34 In fact, oddly.
00:11:36 Has this how has this royal trivia?
00:11:39 It it got released.
00:11:42 In Berlin.
00:11:44 A couple of months before even got released, the United States Weird weird how they would do that.
00:11:51 Wonder why they would do that. I wonder why American communist Jews?
00:11:56 Would choose to release this movie in Berlin first.
Peter Gabriel – Shock the Monkey
00:12:01 Not not only a nice little bit of.
Devon Stack
00:12:04 Trivia there.
00:12:05 But anyway, it's sad to know that we lived in a country in 1958 where they saw this kind of a thing, which again, but by today's terms it, and it's no mega boomer would have any problem. In fact, Mega boomers probably loved this movie.
00:12:20 They probably love this movie, and they probably love their remake from 1986.
00:12:27 And so it's funny that in 1958 this was considered Communist propaganda that ended up with investigations.
00:12:37 You know partially because of this movie.
00:12:40 And nowadays, you know you're you're conservative if you like.
00:12:46 Gay marriage and all that fun stuff. So.
00:12:50 Let me fix. Let me adjust.
00:12:51 This thing real quick.
00:12:53 Didn't do what I wanted that now it's doing.
00:12:55 It.
00:12:57 There we go. Just trim a little there.
00:13:00 Let's let's kind of dive into this because we got.
00:13:04 We got, we got a lot to cover tonight.
00:13:08 It's probably going to be a long one. It's probably going to be.
00:13:11 A long one.
00:13:13 Let's see. Alright.
00:13:14 Just on my my things over here, I was working on this all the way up until we went live because of the Internet issues.
00:13:24 And it's very troublesome to get some of the stuff I.
00:13:26 Was.
00:13:26 Trying to get it was troublesome just to try to post the video on on run. It took me like 10 tries to make it actually finally make the thing that you have to like to get the stream key and.
00:13:36 Everything right.
00:13:38 So.
00:13:40 Let me just just to make sure I'm going to click over to Rumble chat.
00:13:44 Hey rumble chat.
00:13:47 I actually I think you guys can hear me cause the chat seems to be.
00:13:52 I was going. I was just going to. Yeah, you guys are responding to what I'm saying. I think, OK, I just want to make sure it was working because it was.
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00:14:01 All right. So let's dive right in here. Churro, of course, is already creating the disruption.
00:14:08 He showed up today, ate and then left, and I'm and he's at the door meowing. I'm gonna ignore him for now. I know he's fine. He's.
00:14:15 Had plenty to eat.
00:14:18 If it, we might have to do a little churro break and all might let him in. If he goes through his little side door and starts crying through his little cut cage that he lives.
00:14:26 In all right.
00:14:29 So here is the opening scene of the 1958 version.
00:14:35 It's a it's a dark and stormy night.
00:14:39 The dark and stormy night. You see a truck traveling through the rain. There you go. We got Tony Curtis and Sidney Poitier. You might remember Sidney Poitier.
00:14:50 The black man from look who's coming for dinner or whatever that one was the the movie that came out. Not actually not too many years after this movie to push interracial marriage. In fact, Sidney Poitier, he was like the Barack Obama of actors in this era. He was the.
00:15:11 The clean, well spoken black man that they could put in movies and expose audiences to a black person who maybe many of these audience members may have actually never really interacted with a black person and.
00:15:25 Life. And so their idea. Oh, this is what black people are like. OK, well, especially that that audience in Berlin, right. Like, yeah. Well, I know black people are like that. What? What is it? What are all these Hicks in the South complaining about? This guy seems like a normal kind of guy.
00:15:43 He just looks all different.
00:15:46 The Defiant ones is the name of the movie. This was also the name of a I think they did a a documentary with Doctor Dre and Eminem.
00:15:57 Called the defiant ones or something like that at one point.
00:16:01 I don't know.
00:16:03 So then you go to.
00:16:06 You know the raining truck driving around and you start to realize that, oh, it's like a prison truck. It's like a prison truck transporting prisoners. And you hear Sidney Poitier singing black Man songs in the background, you know, entertaining the OR, I guess, much to the chagrin.
00:16:26 I guess of the white prisoners and the White prison guards that are driving.
Sidney Poitier
00:16:37 I've got.
Devon Stack
00:16:51 Working on the.
00:16:52 Chain gang that do that. Let me fix this.
00:16:58 All right.
00:17:01 And the prison guards aren't aren't enjoying the being serenaded by the negro spirituals.
Prison Guard
00:17:07 Shut up. You hear me? Shut up. Shut up.
Devon Stack
00:17:16 It's just like all the black people are in public transportation. It's like, even before boom boxes existed or.
00:17:25 Or any other kind of sound devices. They just saying apparently in public.
00:17:31 Sidney Poitier, of course, is singing.
The Office Boss
00:17:33 My favorite actor of all time is Mr. Sidney Poitier.
The Office Worker
00:17:40 All right.
Devon Stack
00:17:46 Leaving his mark on world culture as the acceptable black man, but not acceptable to the man chained to him.
00:17:54 Played by Tony Curtis, he is not. He is not having any of this black negro singing stuff. He is not a fan.
Tony Curtis
00:18:02 No, you heard what the man said. Now shut up.
Sidney Poitier
00:18:13 You coming again? Joke. And I'm gonna kill you. Make your move. Take it.
Devon Stack
00:19:06 So the prison truck crashes and the yeah, this is this is an idea that Hollywood has recycled a bunch of times in, in fact, that they, even the fugitive from 1993, they used it as an opportunity to be like, look white people and black people.
00:19:23 And get along just fine.
Coffman
00:19:45 Now you listen.
00:19:47 Don't give it down which way you go.
00:19:49 Just don't follow me.
00:19:51 You got there.
Harrison Ford
00:19:52 Yeah. Hey Coffman
00:19:56 Be good.
Devon Stack
00:20:00 Yeah. So it's they use that same kind of dynamic for some reason in lots of Hollywood films, lots of in fact, lots of prison movies, despite what prisons actually like the most racially segregated places on Earth.
00:20:16 Hollywood always tries to make it seem like the exact opposite. Like, that's the time when the races get along for some reason. So just like in in.
00:20:28 Well, like the fugitive, after the the prison truck is crashed, the authorities pop up on scene. They're trying to find out. You know how many casualties there are? If they've got any prisoners on the list and you've got this guy, this would be like it. Well, if this was the fugitive, this is like Tommy Lee Jones.
00:20:47 He's the sheriff.
Sheriff Jeff Muller
00:20:50 Jeff Muller speaking.
00:20:52 No governor. Nobody dead. Yes, that's why. Yeah, it's only two escape.
Devon Stack
00:21:01 And he's the the lovable sheriff. He's the the guy that's got the good morals, even though they're in the South.
00:21:08 Which of course will come into play.
00:21:11 Because of, you know, you can't have a movie in the 50s about racism without shitting all over Southerners.
00:21:17 But again, this is, you know, it's it's he's this character basically and and that that Hollywood just reuses the same ideas over and over again.
Tommy Lee Jones
00:21:24 Listen up ladies and gentlemen.
00:21:26 Our fugitive has been on the run for 90 minutes, average foot speed over uneven ground, barring injuries 4 miles an hour. That gives us the radius up 6 miles.
Devon Stack
00:21:38 Ron Harrison Ford.
00:21:41 So a bunch of locals show up.
00:21:45 And they're, of course they're a bunch of fucking Hicks and hillbillies, and they heard that there was a prison truck crash and they want to.
00:21:53 Come help out.
00:21:55 I mean, these are basically volunteer first responders, but the movie makes it sound like they're a bunch of ignorant Hicks that are bloodthirsty. They just all they want. They just want an excuse to be able to shoot themselves a negra.
00:22:09 But they find out that one well, it's Tony Curtis and Sidney Poitier. It's only one of the people, and they're they're chained together. They have escaped together. But, you know, if one of them is black, yeah, that that's they get to shoot at least one of them. Right. And so they show up in the and the sheriff, who is more enlightened, is very upset.
00:22:30 At their their.
Hick 1
00:22:31 Their bloodthirstiness. Well, watch how you play with those guns and up toys. You kidding, Max? After all the hunting you've done together? It's just like running rabbits.
Sheriff Jeff Muller
00:22:44 These are men.
Hick 1
00:22:45 Same thing.
Sheriff Jeff Muller
00:22:48 These are men.
Devon Stack
00:22:50 How dare you refer them like they're animals?
00:22:54 And in this version.
00:22:56 In the 1958 version, he accepts their help, but they are the butt of jokes all throughout the movie, the guy with the baseball cap, you know, center frame, it's kind of weird because the technology is so much different. It's hard to tell, but he's wearing.
00:23:16 A radio around his around his neck in that big box. And it's it's like it's like walking around fucking. And in fact, it would be like walking on the fucking car battery to have like a.
00:23:28 Portable.
00:23:28 Radio and the whole movie. He's walking around listening to music and he's like the dopey Hick that listens to dopey music.
00:23:35 And the other guys are just they're, you know, the dumb Hicks that want to shoot themselves a negra. And he's like, well, we can't be doing that. I'm gonna. I want these men found safe and sound, and I don't give a fuck.
00:23:49 And this is when they discover that one of them is one of them is black, and one of them is white. And this is also kind.
00:23:56 Of.
00:23:56 Different, although, well, it's it's different. It's not different.
00:24:00 Because it's different the way they talk about it. But like I said, prisons are the most racially segregated places on Earth, and to some degree institutionally, because they know that the people are going to self segregate anyway. Aside from we've covered this in previous streams, aside from some programs where they've attempted to undo it.
00:24:21 And and created actually like many race wars as a result.
00:24:25 A lot of prisons just by policy, it that will just put black people in one area, Mexicans and another and white people another, because if they don't it, it creates a problem. But this guys looking at the manifest and and sees that there's something odd.
Hick 2
00:24:42 Nor Cullen Negret the Sultan battery intend to kill Tim. €20 refused. Solitary your camp.
00:24:51 John Jackson, Caucasian, armed robbery, Asian Caucasian, 5 to 10. Tech Guard, Additional 5 pro. Hey, Max. What? Come they chained a white man.
00:25:05 To a black.
Sheriff Jeff Muller
00:25:07 Warden's got a sense of humor.
Hick 3
00:25:10 What do you say?
00:25:11 Just now.
Sheriff Jeff Muller
00:25:13 He said not to worry, but catching them, they'd probably kill each other while they go 5 miles.
Devon Stack
00:25:20 They'll probably kill each other before they go 5 miles, but again, it's it's interesting. The reporter there is shocked. Like, wow, they they chained a white guy to a black guy that seems.
00:25:33 Unorthodox to say the very least, and even the the sheriff is like.
00:25:38 Yeah, that warden.
00:25:40 He must have some hell of a.
00:25:41 Sense of humor.
00:25:44 And so they decide the hunt is on. The hunt is on for Sidney Poitier and Tony Curtis running through the the countryside.
00:25:54 Trying to escape apprehension the cops bring in the bloodhounds. Ah, they have a little Comic Relief with the Bloodhound guy. Tony Curtis starts trying to break the first thing he does. He tries to break the chains. They're chained together at the wrist.
00:26:11 And he smashed in the chain and isn't very successful and yells at Sidney Poitier to help him break the chain.
Tony Curtis
00:26:23 Come on, boy. You got a freon. Come on, boy. Hit it. Come on, boy. Hit it now, boy. Yeah, hit it. Hit it.
Sidney Poitier
00:26:29 Yes, a boss.
00:26:30 No, no. Yes, a boss.
Tony Curtis
00:26:33 My catch about 3 and I've never been found.
Sidney Poitier
00:26:35 No more. Yes, a boss.
Tony Curtis
00:26:38 I'll never get.
Sidney Poitier
00:26:40 No more, yeah.
00:26:49 We'll break.
Devon Stack
00:26:53 Now they're a lot.
00:26:54 Better at the cinematography and everything else in the 1958 version. In the 80s, one 80s, one actually copies a couple of the shots. But.
00:27:05 You know, this shot obviously where he's saying.
00:27:08 No more. Yes, Sir, boss.
00:27:11 As he's smashed trying to smash the chain. Come on. It's not. It's a pretty, pretty, uh.
00:27:18 Easy visual to, especially given the context of the 1958 a black man trying to break his, like literally trying to break his chains while saying no.
00:27:28 More yes, a boss.
00:27:31 And you know the.
00:27:32 The the the white guy called him boy over and over again.
00:27:36 Go. Come on, boy. Come on, boy. Break them, chain boy.
00:27:40 And so already we're kind of setting this up where there's no pressure narrative going on and as the the Communist writers and director no doubt.
00:27:51 100% intended.
00:27:54 Right away we also get a.
00:27:57 A I guess a distinction between who who's the alpha in this situation?
00:28:03 Who's the alpha and who's the beta?
00:28:05 And Sidney Poitier, the black man, becomes the alpha almost instantly and remains the alpha throughout. He lays down the law.
Sidney Poitier
00:28:16 Either we go north together or together, we're gonna go them 10 miles right back onto Dade St.
Tony Curtis
00:28:28 You're right, boy man, you're right. The time is gonna come. It's you're gonna come.
Sidney Poitier
00:28:35 Right now N is up that way.
Devon Stack
00:28:40 See and he's. He's smarter than the white guy. You're you're going the wrong way. You want to go north? North's over there, dumb ass.
00:28:46 He all throughout is.
00:28:50 Is more intelligent than the white man and more thoughtful and less less easy to anger.
00:29:00 The state troopers are involved, looking around for them. You got the guy with the radio again, bugging everybody with his music as they look for him.
00:29:10 They try to cross a river.
00:29:14 And.
00:29:16 They, you know, have a couple other obstacles, but it's.
00:29:21 Again, it's, it's it. The dynamic is is pretty, pretty steady. We're sending partier is like the stronger one, the smarter one as they they hit all these obstacles and this seeing the white guy is is afraid of nature, weirdly. And so he's he's hearing all these.
00:29:41 Sounds at night and once once comfort from the black man.
Tony Curtis
00:29:46 You keep saying thanks. I hate that word. Thanks. Don't mean nothing. Don't mean nothing. Then you try making a living without what you find out.
00:29:56 I used to park cars and nashes.
00:29:59 Big fancy hotel fella. Give me his car and I'd say thank you, Sir. Here I was doing him a favor, but I had to say thank you, Sir. And the louder I said.
00:30:09 It the bigger.
00:30:09 The tip that don't figure nothing. You gotta be chill the potatoes. A man with the money. Then you don't have to bow down or nobody.
00:30:10 Nothing.
00:30:17 That's the way I'm pulling in.
00:30:19 Even when he didn't give me a tip, I still had to say thank you. That word God, like all sticking needles in me every time I.
00:30:26 Read it.
00:30:28 That can happen with the word. You know what I mean, boy? Yeah.
Sidney Poitier
00:30:35 And I gotta really stick in the knee, right? And look joker.
00:30:38 Don't call me boy.
Devon Stack
00:30:40 And here we start having this policing of language.
00:30:45 That's a a real heavy theme in this 1958 version.
00:30:50 The thing like think about already what's happened? What created the crash in the 1st place? Well, what created the crash in the 1st place is Tony Curtis called him A which apparently gave Sidney Poitier's character the permission to freak out and start a fight. That resulted in a.
00:31:08 A car crash.
00:31:10 And now he's talking about how, you know, you can't call. Don't.
00:31:14 Call me boy.
00:31:15 You know it's it's it's the policing of language and this is the the sort of thing that the audiences are supposed to soak in is if you say that already, that's permission. And by the way, in the 1970s.
00:31:29 It was almost like a a joke. You find some boomer comedy in the 1970s and you could even say this carried out through the 80s and 90s, where if if you say in front of a black person, it's almost like they automatically have permission to maybe even kill you.
00:31:51 I mean really that that's and it's and it's totally acceptable like white people are just supposed to accept. Well, I mean they.
00:31:57 Call him a so.
00:32:00 You know what? What do you expect and and example of this? Well, one of the die hard movies, right where they make him wear the sign that says I hate or whatever and and stand in the black part of town. And Samuel Jackson's character is like, oh, you're going to get killed if you stay out here and.
00:32:18 It was just an understood thing.
00:32:20 He's understood thing and now you can, of course you're not supposed to say it at all. Now I'd say N word.
Hick 2
00:32:28 What's eating you?
Tony Curtis
00:32:30 It's because I called you a name.
Hick 2
00:32:32 Yeah.
Tony Curtis
00:32:34 And that's what.
00:32:34 You are in.
00:32:35 It it's like calling a spade a spade. I'm a hockey. I won't try to argue out of it. You can call me a bow honk. I don't mind.
Sidney Poitier
00:32:44 You're here tell about Bohunka wood powered Joker.
Devon Stack
00:32:49 See and this is this is they're trying to address the the white persons response to this scenario.
00:32:57 Well, you know, white kids are raised with the nursery rhyme sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
00:33:08 Yeah, this idea of free speech, it's actually it's it's a very it's a very unique thing to Western Europeans.
00:33:17 It's a very unique thing.
00:33:19 And it's something that all Western Europeans just kind of relate to. They think that, well, I mean, not so much these days, right. But pretty much it's an understood thing that like, hey, we should be able to have, you know, discussions about things I should be able to say whatever I want. You should be able to say whatever you want and not nothing that you say.
00:33:39 Is going to entice me to violence.
00:33:44 You know, I I might disagree with you. I might try to reason with you. I might try to argue your point, but Tony Curtis says, look, that's what you are. I'm a honkey. Whatever you can call me a honkey and all this fun stuff and you know, nothing's. So what? It's not a big deal. It's just a word. Why?
00:34:04 Why is there a problem?
00:34:04 Them and they this is where they try to make the argument. Well, that's because, you know, you just don't get it, man. You just don't get it. You know, that's because there's not all these, all these jokes about about honkeys and and stuff. And. But there is for for black people. And so it's it's more hurtful. You wouldn't get it.
Sidney Poitier
00:34:26 Your your tailor catch your bow hunt by the toe.
Tony Curtis
00:34:30 Depends on how you mean. Like I said it, I don't cry me because I didn't make.
Hick 2
00:34:31 Hi.
Sidney Poitier
00:34:34 Up. No names, no. You breathe it in when you're born and you spit it out from then on.
Tony Curtis
00:34:40 Then sure that you darling.
00:34:43 Well, that's the way it is. And you're stuck with it because I didn't make any rules.
Sidney Poitier
00:34:48 No, but you surely.
Tony Curtis
00:34:49 Everybody lives by him. Everybody's stuck to what it is. Even him swamped animals.
Sidney Poitier
00:34:54 Even that weasel.
Tony Curtis
00:34:55 You're calling me a weasel?
Sidney Poitier
00:34:59 No, I'm calling you little white man.
Devon Stack
00:35:03 I'm calling you a white man.
00:35:06 The biggest insult of the mall?
00:35:10 So they find themselves trapped in some mud pit while trying to hide from a horse carriage that's going through looking for people, I guess. And once again you have this same kind of imagery. The only way that they get out is the white man climbs on to the shoulders of the black man.
00:35:31 And the unsophisticated audience member is going to watch something like this. And you know, it's part of parts of it. It's going to stick, but they're not going to. It's not going to be so obvious to them. It's not going to be so obvious, even though it's very carefully crafted to this scene. And the implication, of course, is in order for this white guy to get anywhere.
00:35:51 Or or for him to get out of trouble. He had. It's it's coming on the shoulders, literally, of the black man who's in chains.
00:36:00 And that's that's the kind of shot that, uh.
00:36:05 That again, it's it's very subtle if you're not, if you don't.
00:36:09 You don't notice the programming, but it's it's less subtle these days. You know, it's easy when you look back at these movies from 1958, realizing what they were going for and and it comes across. And just just like with this shot where they're so tired after their escape, they kind of snuggle up together. And. And this is a.
00:36:29 This type of a shot will be used again later in the film.
00:36:33 Where they're they're literally snuggling up together and in order to to have safety and togetherness, then you have this scene here, which I thought was kind of funny, where he has hurt the white guy has hurt his wrist.
00:36:50 Because of the chain.
00:36:52 And the black man decides to use his magical negro medicine to to heal it.
Tony Curtis
00:37:05 That feels nice and cool.
00:37:09 40.
Devon Stack
00:37:12 Ohh yes, I'm just going to put mud. I'm just going to get this mud and stick it on your open wound.
00:37:19 That'll that'll be great for it.
00:37:22 I don't want to hear some survivalist type say, well, actually there are. There are types of clay and not not OK. It's ridiculous. It's it's the, the negro, the the magical negro using his. Uh, his. Ohh this it's it's it's it. I'll put mud on there.
Newscaster
00:37:42 The Magic Negro.
Devon Stack
00:37:43 I'll put the mud on and it'll just it'll it'll fix it. And he's like it feels.
00:37:47 Nice and cool.
00:37:48 That feels nice and cool. Thank you.
00:37:52 Meanwhile, the cops are still looking around for him hot on the trail. The the pair come across a.
00:38:01 Kind of a a encampment. And yet again you have another one of these shots as as Tony Curtis is having to learn from the black man because they plan on sneaking in to the town to try to get either something they can cut the chain open or get some food or something like that.
00:38:19 Sidney Poitier says, well, you, you're too bright.
00:38:22 We're at the put something on your face to darken you up so you don't stick out and don't glow in the.
00:38:28 Mark and you have this again visual this visual metaphor, where now he's putting the black skin onto the white man, literally so that he knows what it's like to be black.
00:38:42 As we will see, as this scene unfolds.
00:38:46 So they sneak into the town or like this little fishing encampment or whatever it's supposed to be.
00:38:52 They decide to drop in from the roof because they can't get into the door without making too much noise.
00:39:01 And once again, you have another shot where the white guy slips and falls inside, and he's only he's only being held up by the black man that's there. The hero shot of the black man holding him.
00:39:13 Up.
00:39:14 And finally, they dropped down, but they make too much noise.
00:39:18 And the townspeople come out with flashlights.
00:39:22 And and spot them. And they're of course, super racists. They're like, yeah, we got some nigras, some broken into the shop. Let's get them.
Hick 2
00:39:36 Like you two boys, you're in for.
Hick 3
00:39:37 Trouble Mack to hurt your real bad.
Hick 2
00:39:41 Say.
Hick 3
00:39:42 This one's white.
Devon Stack
00:39:44 This one's white
00:39:44 What? What are we going to do?
00:39:47 This one's what.
00:39:49 And what they're going to do, of course, like you would expect any small town full of white people to do in a Hollywood movie.
Hick 2
00:40:08 Dave.
00:40:10 Get rid of the women and.
Hick 3
00:40:10 Children. Alright, ladies, let's go.
Hicks Wife
00:40:13 What you been fixing to do?
Hick 3
00:40:15 Old fashioned Cammie, ma'am. Let's go now. Come on, let's go.
Devon Stack
00:40:22 That's right. They're going to string them up because when they were chasing them, they hit one of them in the head with.
00:40:27 Their.
00:40:28 Chains and it knocked him out and he's not really hurt real bad. But rather than wait for law enforcement to come pick up these convicts who are obviously convicts because they're chained up, they're just going to hang.
00:40:42 Him, I guess.
00:40:43 Because that's what it was.
00:40:44 Like.
00:40:45 And so you have the the big bad racist.
00:40:50 Sit there and and try to harass them for well, for one being black, the other one.
00:40:56 Being a lover.
Tony Curtis
00:41:01 Don't you understand?
00:41:03 Can't go lynching me?
00:41:05 I'm a white man.
Hick 2
00:41:09 You know, I'll tell you the kind of white man you are.
00:41:16 Spit on him. God's sake. Come on, spit on him. Let me alone, Sam. We're just having fun now, boys. Come on, come on. You heard me.
00:41:37 Get out of my way, Sam, or you gonna have trouble too. Lorraine and John's gonna be alright. You told me. Fine.
00:41:47 You just don't give a damn, do you?
00:41:55 All right. The rest of you, thick man, you want to lynch you, you love it. You look anxious. Go ahead tight around their necks. Come on.
00:42:13 You won't do it, huh? Here.
00:42:17 Go ahead. Chop him up. Go on.
00:42:26 What do you?
00:42:26 Want to burn?
00:42:29 You wanna boom? You wanna boom?
00:42:34 What are you? What are the what burner?
00:42:40 Back.
00:42:46 Come on. Turn your eyes down.
Devon Stack
00:42:54 And so of course you have this often, Hollywood recycled biblical parable. This he without sin should throw the first stone. This is the kind of way that they would hack the mind of the Christian audiences into thinking that if you've done anything wrong at all, then you're not.
00:43:14 Allowed to judge other people. You're not allowed to judge other people or deal out any kind of punishment or you know, because you yourself, you you're guilty too of something. And so therefore you're you're unqualified, you're unqualified to pass judgment on anyone for any reason.
00:43:33 Now look, obviously in this situation them hitting some guy, breaking into a store, hitting a guy in the head. Maybe that doesn't warrant the death penalty. I don't know. Maybe it does. They're both. They're both at what?
00:43:46 Point do you?
00:43:47 Draw the line you have escaped convicts breaking into one of your stores in the middle of nowhere where you don't have law enforcement.
00:43:54 Nearby for safety. And then they assault with possibly he could have had even though, like, the guy was wasn't hurt. Too bad could have been injured really bad because they hit him in the head with a metal.
00:44:08 I mean, you know, at at what point do you say, yeah, you know, why are these people here?
00:44:16 Like what are we?
00:44:17 Supposed to do with these people.
00:44:20 You know, like, so it to me it's kind of like, you know, would it be that in just?
00:44:29 If a remote town decide to deal with escape convicts that that broke into their their town and and assaulted them, would it be that bad? If this is how they?
00:44:43 They distributed justice, if you will. I mean, sure, you could say it was a little bit harsh, but you gotta remember in the Old West, if you stole.
00:44:51 The horse.
00:44:53 They would hang you.
00:44:55 We used to be a real country. We used to be a real country.
00:45:01 So they decide to tie them.
00:45:02 Up in the barn and wait until they can deal with or deliver them to law enforcement.
00:45:10 But the guy who was moral fagging to the crowd, sneaks in and cuts them loose.
00:45:18 And they run off into the.
00:45:23 The wilderness, I guess.
00:45:27 They then.
00:45:30 After after escaping the evil clutches.
00:45:34 You know, they're always getting into fights. They can't seem to cooperate.
Tony Curtis
00:45:40 After spitting in that guys face.
Hick 2
00:45:44 Why you?
Sidney Poitier
00:45:47 What's the matter? You free to catch my?
Tony Curtis
00:45:48 Car.
00:45:50 Picking the hand of me.
Hick 2
00:45:51 Do you the big shot taken?
Sidney Poitier
00:45:53 You're nothing. You're just a talker. Don't tell me all that big talk about Charlie potatoes when the chains off and nobody chasing you. Come on.
00:46:06 You can't, can you? You can't because you're nothing. You're not even a man. You're a monkey on a stick that crack him up back there. They pull the string and you jumped. You said one day we're going to tangle. Joker. You said the time was going to come and that time is now.
Devon Stack
00:46:26 So are they getting some gay 1950s Hollywood fight?
00:46:30 And they're interrupted by.
00:46:33 A boy with a rifle who says, you know, hold it right there.
00:46:38 What? What are you, what?
00:46:39 Are you been doing out here on my property?
Hick 2
00:46:50 Come on, let's go. Let's get.
00:46:51 Out of here.
00:46:52 Come on, and maybe people around these.
Sidney Poitier
00:46:53 Wait a minute.
Devon Stack
00:46:58 And of course, the black man is the one concerned for the welfare of the boy.
Sidney Poitier
00:47:01 He bumped his head. Come on.
Devon Stack
00:47:09 But the boys? Racist.
Little Boy
00:47:11 Let me go keep him away from you. Don't let him hurt me.
Devon Stack
00:47:16 So even though it was technically the white guy who knocked him on the rock.
00:47:20 Yeah.
00:47:22 He shows some racial solidarity and fear of the black man, embraces the his own attacker.
00:47:29 Again, it's a little heavy-handed here, but.
00:47:34 It is what it.
00:47:34 Is so the boy says he lives. Uh.
00:47:37 On a farm.
00:47:38 Nearby with his mother.
00:47:40 And they walk over to the farm.
00:47:44 And his mother is this single mom who is.
00:47:50 In heat and very much intrigued by the the white man, at least they didn't try doing the the race mixing part on this. But I was I was expecting it. I was expecting like the second they showed her and she was like, hmm, I mean, some of that I was.
Woman in heat
00:48:06 Like. Oh, no, no, no, don't do it.
00:48:10 Not.
Devon Stack
00:48:10 But.
00:48:11 But she has eyes for Tony Curtis. She talks about how she's so lonely out here and her her husband left the family, and now she's just out here all alone by herself and uh, what? You know what's what's a nice boy like him doing in trouble?
00:48:31 And they finally get their chains broken open because she's got some tools in the shed.
00:48:37 But as soon as the chains broke and open.
00:48:39 The white man being of weaker constitution.
Hick 2
00:48:42 Yeah.
Devon Stack
00:48:44 Passes out and we have yet another one of these hero shots.
00:48:49 Of the black man carrying the white man, almost like a bride.
00:48:54 To the bed and lay him down because he is.
00:48:57 He has had enough. He can't. He doesn't have the same strength.
00:49:02 That the black man does.
00:49:05 Meanwhile, the sheriff catches up to on their trail till he gets to where the racist town was.
00:49:12 Finds out that they were there.
00:49:16 And while that's going on, the single mom who's in heat starts hitting on.
00:49:22 Tony Curtis and it's kind of implied they might have had sex. The camera kind of pans away when they start to make out so.
00:49:32 I don't know, it's 1958.
00:49:35 The next morning, he's washing his clothes and she's dressing him up in her husband's old clothes.
00:49:43 And says that she's got a plan. Why? Why does why does he have to run away with this black guy now that the chain's broken? Why doesn't she run away with him?
00:49:54 Because she's got money saved up, she and the boy, they live out there by themselves. They don't really have anything going for them anymore. She can even drop the boy off at her sister's house and they can go to the big city with the money she saved up and start a new life. And maybe when the heats died down.
00:50:14 Come back for the boy.
00:50:16 And you know, I I she's.
00:50:18 Got a car?
00:50:19 And the barn that they can use, they don't have to hop on some train and the because the cops are looking for a black man chained to a white guy, they're not. They're never going to suspect a husband and wife driving a car.
00:50:31 Down and because he used to be a mechanic, he gets the car working and he kind of thinks the man maybe this is a good idea.
00:50:40 So he tells her. You know what? Yeah. Fuck it. Let's do.
00:50:43 It.
00:50:44 I just. I literally just met you, by the way. This is something I have found in fiction from this era a lot. I I don't know if it's just fiction was like this or if you know, the art imitating life, life imitating art, kind of a thing.
00:51:01 Where you have these encounters where a man and a woman meet up and they get married that week.
00:51:08 And you know, I mean like, like I'm talking like books I've read or movies I've watched that are written around this era in somewhere in the 50s.
00:51:21 Where you meet, you don't date for like 5 years and then get married or anything like that. It's like you meet and with within like a month at the longest you're married. And so it's crazy and weird as this situation seems.
00:51:37 In this movie.
00:51:38 I I don't think it was maybe all that crazy.
00:51:44 So the black man, Sidney Poitier again. Look at the body language. You know, the white people are slouched over, looking down at the ground and towering over them is the black man.
00:51:57 And he overhears them and and thinks, oh, you're gonna abandon me, huh? You're gonna abandon just like that? You're you just met this white chick, and you're just going to leave me for this white.
00:52:06 Chick, huh?
00:52:08 Well, I guess if that's what you want to.
00:52:11 Do.
00:52:12 I'll be out of here.
00:52:13 So she tells him how to get out of the swamp, gives him directions, and he gets a sandwich and some stuff and decides to leave.
00:52:23 But then in talking to her after he leaves, Tony Curtis discovers she purposely told him to go walk down a path that will lead to bogs and quicksand, where she suspected he will die, so she let him do his death and she's like, and he's like, why? Why would you do that? Why would why did you tell him to go somewhere? He's gonna die.
00:52:43 And she said, well, don't you understand? Like, if he dies, they'll just assume that you guys both died in the swamp and that way he can't talk. He can't tell anyone who you're with. And we're off, Scott. Free.
00:52:57 And so he flies into a rage. He's like, I can't believe that that was my friend, even though we were enemies just a little bit ago. You're a you're a monster. How dare you now that now this whole plan, like this wacky plan of me just running away with you. I I, I I can't do it. I can't go through with it.
00:53:16 You're an evil bitch. You're an evil bitch. And so I'm out of here too. And she's like, don't go. Don't go. Please. I want to. I want to go to the big city with this ex convict I just met. You're so handsome and dangerous. It's it's, it's amazing. And he's, like, out of my way, bitch. But the son seeing his.
00:53:36 His mother under attack, pulls out the rifle and rat tat tat. Take a GAT like that.
00:53:43 Gets Tony Curtis in the shoulder as he runs out the door.
00:53:48 And he runs to find his true love, the.
00:53:52 Well, the.
Newscaster
00:53:53 The magic negro.
Devon Stack
00:53:56 And says no, no, don't go the way she said you were gonna go into quicksand. You're gonna be dead. And I I had to. I had to come save you from certain death. Let's let's escape together. Let's go back to our plan of jumping on this train that you think is passing by near by.
00:54:16 And the cops are on the trail. They're getting closer and closer. They're almost there. They get to the train and they're trying to run the train. Oh, my God. Are they going to make it? Are they gonna make it ohk? And yet again another one of these hero shots. Sidney Poitier gets on to the train, easily reaches his hand out.
00:54:35 To help the white man who can't do anything on his own.
00:54:39 And you know yet another hero shot trying to help the struggling white man who's been shot.
00:54:46 And when he can't make it, Sydney Partier jumps off the.
00:54:50 Train and cradles him like a baby at the side of the tracks and begins to sing his negro songs to a delirious.
00:55:02 Bleeding out Tony Curtis, the sheriff then shows up the the Nice sheriff who doesn't like racists.
00:55:10 He hears the singing, comes around the corner.
00:55:12 There.
00:55:13 Sees that they're they're not really a threat and he's like, well, all right, you boys.
00:55:19 Guess you know, I guess you know you're caught now and he's like, yeah, yeah, boss, I guess I do know.
00:55:25 He's like, alright, well, I'm glad racism was defeated finally.
00:55:29 The end. And so that was the that was the first version.
00:55:34 The first version it it made $2,000,000 or actually more than $2,000,000.
00:55:41 And it was, I think, the budget for it was 7. And this is back in 1950s money. The budget was somewhere in the neighborhood of $700,000. Again, they released it in Berlin first.
00:55:54 For some reason, well for reasons.
00:55:57 And that was the propaganda message. The message is clear. Yeah. We gotta work together. You know, you're we're chained together. We can't. We can't escape. You know each other? We can't. We can't pretend that that one can exist without the other. And so we might as well stop all the fighting and let's all just be friends.
00:56:17 And there's a lot of people again, they'll say, well, what's so what's so wrong with that?
00:56:21 Message. What's so wrong with that message?
00:56:26 Well the the.
00:56:26 Thing that's wrong with that message is it's not based on reality. That situation was completely false. Nothing about that dynamic is realistically depicting the the dynamic between whites and blacks like, not even a little bit. And unfortunately, in 1958 there were a lot of people who had 0 experience.
00:56:46 Especially in Berlin with black people. And so when you watch this, you're like, yeah, I guess this is kind of ridiculous that black people are are just, they're smarter, they're they're more level headed. They are they they they seem to be more.
00:57:03 More values based. You know this than this white criminal or or the other whites in the movie, right? The only other good white really was the sheriff because the white single mom, she was kind of a hoe and it was kind of there was kind of an implication that she was willing to kind of ditch her son with her sister.
00:57:23 And just kind of run away with some criminals she just met the criminal that she just met was kind of a scumbag the whole time and and and kind of thick in the head.
00:57:36 You had the racist volunteers that showed up trying to help them find the convicts and they, you know, they they were all kind of assholes. You had the the whole town of racists that they came across, so that's that's not a accurate description of the dynamic.
00:57:56 The relationship between the the Whites and blacks that are involved in this struggle that is taking place in America in the 1950s.
00:58:09 But that's what they wanted you to believe.
00:58:12 In movies like this, deliver the message quite successfully, and in fact that like I said, this kind of movie buddy films, there's like tons of buddy films that, you know, this gave birth to a genre. This was a very unique.
00:58:26 Setup where you have this black guy and a white guy literally chained together.
00:58:32 And in the 80s and 90s, they wouldn't be chained together literally, but they would have the same like 48 hours with Nick Nolte and it was Eddie Murphy or whoever it was where you had a black guy and A and A and a white guy, that they they're they're totally different and they they come from different walks of life. But for some reason that you know.
00:58:54 Because the.
00:58:56 The police chief made them be partners or or whatever, whatever the scenario is, they're they're they're they are bound together by some force, maybe not a literal chain, but by some force and by the end of it, as much as they fight and they, they have their differences. By the end of it, we realize actually the the black guy was really cool. And the white guy was just a racist asshole.
00:59:16 And it turns out that he was wrong about everything. And then it you get to this screen the end.
00:59:24 And movie after movie? Lethal.
00:59:26 Weapon. You know all the all those lethal weapon movies. The same kind of a thing. The first one especially. That's how it started out. Right. And you have all this crazy white guy. All his. His wife is dead and he's an alcoholic. And he's a complete mess until you get all that. Now he gets this black partner that he has to work with and.
00:59:46 And ohh like you go to his house, he lives in the suburbs. It's like the fucking cosbys, you know, they're like this perfect fucking family and everything.
00:59:54 And you know, they have all these disagreements and they're low key racists, but the it's the 80s. So they're not, you know, can't call each other and whatnot anymore. And then in those movies. But, you know, there's a little bit of that going on maybe and by the end of it, everything's fine. Or Beverly Hills cop. I mean, you go on and on and on, but this was the the initial movie that had this kind of a thing going on, in fact, that.
01:00:15 There's another one with Sidney Poitier, right?
01:00:19 That's a similar. I think it's like a similar premise where they're in the Old West, same sort of a thing anyway. So they redid this movie in 1986.
01:00:30 And it's interesting to see what stayed intact and what changed, what, what dialogue change, what scenarios changed, what did they focus less on? What did they focus more on and what what?
01:00:49 Was it, was it? Well, had the audience changed too? Because that's the other thing that you have to to to tailor, tailor, make your your art for is for the audience. The other thing to think about too is why did they remake it?
01:01:07 Right.
01:01:09 If, if the propaganda in 1958 had been so successful.
01:01:14 And solving racism, right, if the we got to this screen, the end and everyone learned their lesson that Oh yeah, actually we're we're not that different. We're not that different. Wouldn't it be nice to just be cradled by a black man in a in a field somewhere. We're we're not that different.
01:01:33 Yeah.
01:01:34 You know, we're basically the same. In fact, you're kind of better than me. Well, if that's if that was supposed to fix everything, if that or if not if that was accurately described in the situation and all it took was a little bit of education for.
01:01:47 People to realize.
01:01:48 That well then why? Why is it that 30 years later, 30 years later, you're having to make the exact same?
01:01:55 fucking movie.
01:01:57 30 years later, apparently the exact same problems exist 30 years later. This isn't like a historical piece like the the the one they made in the 1980s takes place not in the 1950s, but in.
01:02:10 The 1980s.
01:02:12 And so it's not like it's a little bit weird, it's a little bit weird that you have to.
01:02:17 30.
01:02:17 Years later, make the exact same kind of propaganda. Or is it the exact same? Let's have a look.
01:02:24 So it's the chain gang. The only real difference with the intro is they show the the the friction between the two prior to getting onto the truck where and well and also the the actors are obviously different. This one is directed by David Lowell. Rich, another Jew from New York.
01:02:44 Starring Robert Urich.
01:02:48 And Carl weathers. So there's Carl Weathers there. You might remember him as the, I think he's the the black guy in rocky, one of the rocky movies, right, Carl Weathers and a bunch of 80s movies. He was just like that ripped black guy that they'd stick in. I think he's in predator.
01:03:03 In some other movies like that.
01:03:06 So he's he's moving the rocks.
01:03:09 And then you've got this guy here. This is Robert, you rich. I don't know.
01:03:17 If he's white or Jewish, the last names.
01:03:21 A bit a bit ambiguous.
01:03:23 Uh, But yeah, he's he's kind of an asshole. Same kind of a character. The Black man is just trying to get the job done and the white man's just trying to cause trouble.
Hick 2
01:03:47 Yeah.
Guard
01:04:06 This is your last warning.
Devon Stack
01:04:14 The defiant ones decades later.
01:04:22 And so you get a little more of the back story they're fighting. And in fact, there are other things a little bit different. The warden, who doesn't really appear in the 1st movie except for on the phone.
01:04:32 Is also a. It's like they've had.
01:04:36 To increase the racism. So it's kind of it's not even like they had to remake the 1950s version in the 1980s. It's like they had to to make it even worse.
01:04:49 You know, it's like they had to to exaggerate the white racism even more to get their message across.
01:04:56 So in this version in the 80's, the warden is this racist Hick asshole and he's not only that, he's just a scumbag, generally because they were starting fights on the chain gang. He's going to chain them together and send them to another warden.
01:05:14 Illegally to basically for what it sounds like to torture him and then send him back. And he's like, boy, you sure won't have a small mouth and you get back. And if and they've gone to the the length of even giving him prosthetic bad teeth like a, you know, like a.
01:05:33 Hillbilly.
01:05:35 Like if if I I don't know if in the in the clips I have show it but if he ever opens his mouth is the bottom row of teeth. It's just like you know, a fucking.
01:05:44 Mess.
01:05:49 You're not going to chain me to a nigger.
Warden
01:05:52 Trash is trash boy.
01:05:56 Trash don't have no color.
01:06:00 Trash don't have no color.
Devon Stack
01:06:03 Trash is trash boy.
01:06:06 So he's upset because.
01:06:09 You know he's not. He's not getting. Apparently his white privilege card has been cancelled, and then he got, like, the same kind of an intro. They're on the they're on the prison truck.
01:06:20 And.
01:06:23 You know, instead of Sydney partier, you now have Carl Weathers singing the.
01:06:29 The the negro Chain gang song.
Robert Urich
01:06:34 Wanted to shut up with that jungle bumbo jumbo.
Carl Weathers
01:06:42 There's a man.
Robert Urich
01:06:43 I said shut up.
01:06:45 I want you quiet, boy.
01:06:47 Quiet like a feather falling.
Carl Weathers
01:06:51 There's a man.
Guard
01:06:54 Knock it off back there.
Devon Stack
01:06:56 Not about being too.
01:06:58 Loud. So it's it's very similar, same kind of a fight ensues. And uh, you know, they they have this with the with the same.
01:07:07 Result.
Guard
01:07:08 Hey, I said knock it off back there.
Passenger
01:07:11 So what did you find?
Kit
01:08:15 I hope it's the right apartment, Michael.
Hick 2
01:08:43 Oh.
Devon Stack
01:08:46 So they managed to survive the epic crash.
01:08:50 And same exact kind of a response that you see in the first one and in the fugitive, but now this is where things start changing again, things start changing.
01:09:02 In this version, you have volunteers show up just like in the first one, and the sheriff and the first one. He hesitantly accepts their help, but you get the impression that after after he gives him a good tongue lashing about how these are, these are human beings.
01:09:22 It's not like shooting rabbits. They're people.
01:09:26 This is a little bit different.
01:09:28 This is a little bit different because the sheriff, uh, well, let's see.
Warden
01:09:35 There were six of them.
01:09:36 When they left the farm.
Sheriff
01:09:38 All we found is 4/2 blacks and two whites.
Warden
01:09:41 Not a black and white chained together.
Sheriff
01:09:43 Hello.
01:09:44 No.
Warden
01:09:47 You better get the pasta together, Leroy.
01:09:50 They're out there somewhere and they hate each.
Hick 1
01:09:52 Other back, don't you leave?
Devon Stack
01:09:57 You also this is another added element too. Is that the the now you're giving the impression not only is there systemic racism, but there's also a problem with the the law enforcement, the the prison system just generally.
01:10:13 The warning is corrupt. The Warren is corrupt, he was sending them off illegally.
01:10:20 To get tortured, essentially, and now that's why he's worried that these people are are on the loose, because if they catch them, then they'll spill the beans about how they were being sent off illegally to some other warden to be tortured.
01:10:36 So the Warren is all worried that this, that his secret is going to get out and the sheriff is upstanding. You know, Tommy Lee Jones type and he's not going to play ball with the warden, the corrupt warden.
Hick 3
01:10:48 People without passion.
Sheriff
01:10:49 Floyd.
01:10:51 Nobody's convicts years doing out here in this truck in the middle of the night.
Warden
01:10:55 We're gang. There's a culvert up there, blocked up, and we played. The road is going to flood.
Sheriff
01:11:01 How come alert didn't come through my department? How come there weren't any picks and shovels in that truck? Wouldn't? How could they swing those picks and shovels with chains on?
Devon Stack
01:11:16 All right.
Warden
01:11:17 The real story is that I've got this acquaintance. His name is not important, but he's in another Correctional Facility and we have this arrangement. I do him a favor and he does for me. If I have trouble makers, I kick him on.
01:11:32 Over to him. And he he gives him a little reconditioning. You know what I mean?
01:11:39 And nobody's going to mess a couple of bad apples out of a.
01:11:42 Whole barrel.
01:11:44 Now these guys are dangerous, real dangerous. If we don't catch them, there's going to be a lot of questions asked me and you.
Sheriff
01:11:53 Well, Floyd, I'm going to.
01:11:54 See if they're locked up.
01:11:55 OK, it's safely locked up. You can depend on.
Devon Stack
01:12:00 That's right, because I'm super cop.
01:12:04 Super cop. That's got a black deputy. In fact, just to show you how the times have changed. So this is another difference that you see in the 1958 version. It would be absurd.
01:12:15 That there'd even be a black cop, let alone a a sheriff's deputy, that is.
01:12:20 But in this version that that they make sure to have that the token black guy that's that's just like Sidney Poitier that see the notice, how they're they're amplifying every aspect of the first one. The first one had all these subtle camera shots to relay this kind of information. And the dialogue was, you know.
01:12:39 At times it was heavy-handed, but it it was. It was a lot more subtle.
01:12:44 Here you have you have an amplification. I think as a result of a racial relations.
01:12:52 In 30 years.
01:12:53 From 1958 to 1986.
01:12:56 Were way worse.
01:12:58 Way worse, you had lots of race riots between 1958 and 1986, lots of race riots. You had entire towns in the north or cities rather in the north that were taken over by the Great negro Migration and destroyed cities like Detroit cities.
01:13:18 Like Baltimore, cities like.
01:13:21 Compton.
01:13:23 Watts.
01:13:25 Bessemer, you had a lot of lot of cities that were decimated by blacks moving into them and you so you had to amplify the positive image of blacks in the in the movie as well as amplify the negative attributes of all the white characters.
01:13:46 And make them look even more corrupt, even more racist and more stupid.
01:13:52 So you have a similar dynamic between these two as you did in the first version, where the alpha right away becomes Carl Weathers and the the white guy can't keep up with him. He's he's having to get dragged around, you know, he's he's he's physically inferior.
01:14:12 And mentally inferior.
Robert Urich
01:14:14 Trouble.
01:14:17 Come on, man, you're drinking on.
Hick 2
01:14:18 This chick don't give me orders.
Carl Weathers
01:14:19 Boy, I'm telling you.
01:14:22 Next time I hear you call boy, they better.
01:14:23 Be going around.
Robert Urich
01:14:25 I know we've got to keep moving.
01:14:27 I just don't need you telling me.
Devon Stack
01:14:35 And you have a similar message here.
01:14:38 You have a similar message that there's a language policing going on.
01:14:44 Now, I don't think that you know the whole boy thing was was still as common in 1986.
01:14:51 In fact, I I'm I'm almost certain that maybe, maybe in parts of the South it was, but at almost certain at that point that was generally not socially present, you know, with black people being called boy in 1986, but they they, they're still trying to police.
01:15:10 The language trying to make it look like the the white man, even though he's clearly, intellectually and physically inferior, he's still.
01:15:17 Calling him boy.
01:15:19 The cops, as I mentioned, they've set up like a base camp. You know, there's a few differences. Obviously there's helicopters now that didn't exist in 1950.
01:15:29 Right. But you also, like I said, you have the.
01:15:35 The.
01:15:37 The the Black Deputy and you have the the Hicks that want to come volunteer.
Warden
01:15:51 Roger, some help, Leroy.
Sheriff
01:15:54 My cup runneth over and these boys know the county better than anybody.
01:15:59 Yeah, well, these boys go home because.
01:16:01 I'm not deputized them.
Warden
01:16:04 We're we're only trying to help Leroy.
Sheriff
01:16:06 Is my account and I can do my job without any help from.
01:16:09 Your volunteers, Lord justice, where these convictions block.
01:16:13 In my county, a conviction.
Hick 2
01:16:16 It's red, very.
Sheriff
01:16:17 Young, I meant to walk these gentlemen.
01:16:19 Back to that.
Hick 2
01:16:19 Car. I'm sure I can find time.
Sheriff
01:16:22 Tell him they're not going exactly 2 minutes. You're taking a minute.
01:16:25 Booking.
01:16:25 Them charges interfering with the office of Law. The performance of their.
01:16:29 Duty.
01:16:30 Yes.
Warden
01:16:31 Does that mean that I'm not?
01:16:32 On the posse either.
Sheriff
01:16:34 Yeah, you got the wrong attitude for.
01:16:36 It.
01:16:36 You're the stone of my shoe and I'm going to take.
01:16:38 You out before I start walking.
01:16:41 Start your clock.
Deputy
01:16:43 Well, fellas.
01:16:45 I think you heard the.
01:16:45 Sheriff, just as clearly as I did.
Devon Stack
01:16:49 See and. They also make a point to put a black man in a in a a position of authority over the white Hicks.
01:16:56 To try to show you that.
01:16:59 You know the the the power dynamic has changed from 1958 certainly, but yeah, now he gets to smugly boss them the racists around.
Deputy
01:17:08 Let's get moving.
Devon Stack
01:17:10 Sorry.
01:17:20 And not only are they dumb racist Hicks, that's that's literally a. This is from a A this guy on the right here. You might recognize him if you ever watched the the Bob Newhart.
01:17:32 Ago.
01:17:34 This guy was like the the Hick of 80s television.
Larry
01:17:40 Hi, I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell. That's my other brother Darrell.
Bob Newhart
01:17:51 So how you doing?
Larry
01:17:53 OK, except to throw in the back out last week, crawling under our house.
Bob Newhart
01:17:58 Sounds like a tough job.
Larry
01:17:58 Job wasn't the job. I just like crawling under house.
Devon Stack
01:18:06 So there's Larry.
01:18:08 Larry the the, the, the person, they would trot out anytime they needed like a dumb Hick in a in a TV show.
01:18:18 You know, wanting to.
01:18:19 Wanting to go shoot himself some nigras.
Crowd
01:18:22 Hi.
Sheriff
01:18:35 She could believe they were going home.
01:18:43 Keep those dogs on.
01:18:45 Leash until I feel the sun.
Dog Handler
01:18:46 You got it, Sherry.
Devon Stack
01:18:48 You got it, sheriff. We're going to get them boys, and we're going to do it all proper like nothing like nothing like that, warden and those racist Hicks want to do.
01:18:57 So then he had this, this little montage, the 80s montage of them running around through the the woods, trying to escape.
01:19:39 My favorite part is the Super obvious switch over from the stuntman to the actors.
01:19:44 Oh.
01:19:44 Stunt man rolling down the hill. Oh, they're hidden by this Bush. And then after 2 acres, actually jump out of the Bush.
01:19:57 Ah, the the 80s. Eighties was rotten. With those kinds of. I don't know why? Why did they just cut? Why did why did they have to? Like you weren't fooling anyone when you did those shots in the 80s.
01:20:10 Then you have. Of course, these little, little tidbits you didn't have in the 19581. It makes you wonder. Is it because the audience now is more desensitized? They've been so hit over the head with this propaganda that you have to be more explicit with it, or are the audiences just stupider or or what?
01:20:31 Are they are they? Are they?
01:20:34 Now that they actually do perhaps have interactions with black people, you don't. If you're too subtle, then they're not going to get it. You have to hit them over the head with it to counteract their lived experiences.
Deputy
01:20:48 Got a lot of catching.
Sheriff
01:20:49 Up to do maybe not as much as soon as I have running on a fast track into this crunchies. Criss cross with streams and bogs and swamps. Just buying some crushing here. Couldn't cut through the month of Sundays.
01:20:59 That figure thing that's gonna slow down? What? Anything else is? Hey.
Deputy
01:21:03 What's that again?
Sheriff
01:21:04 I was told these prisoners hate each other. Hate to slow you down.
Devon Stack
01:21:09 Who are you telling?
01:21:12 Ohh, that's right. Hey, it'll slow you down. Hate. That's the real enemy.
01:21:19 If things going to get these boys, it's going to be hate and the black man's like you don't have to tell me, boss.
01:21:24 I know all about that, that hate. He's like, whoa, you. You got me there, Jimbo. I should have known who I was talking.
01:21:32 To.
01:21:33 Maybe I should check my privilege next time I go yapping about hey.
01:21:38 Then you have the same scene where they're trying to break open the the chains with rocks. They don't get so rootsy with it, I think maybe.
01:21:46 I don't know.
01:21:47 I don't know if they just weren't clever enough to do it, or if the whole race racist, you know.
01:21:55 Or the the the, the, the if the the the slavery imagery was was as necessary where you had to have the black man. I mean he's still doing it, but it's not, as you know, dramatic.
01:22:06 They have the same kind of arguments they, you know, fight over the same kind of stupid shit. The black man's obviously the smart one.
01:22:14 And then then you get back to, oh, look, you know, the drunken hillbillies, the drunken hillbillies.
Larry
01:22:20 Hi, I'm Larry and this is my brother Darryl. And that's mother, brother Darryl.
Devon Stack
01:22:24 And I'm getting drunk. We're just getting drunk, running around rifles trying to. We're going to get ourselves some.
01:22:31 And so they're trying to plan out some scheme where they get to the escape convicts before the sheriff does because the sheriff is totally not racist because he's got a black deputy. That's how you know.
01:22:44 He's he's he's going to be fair and nice to the convicts once he gets them because they're people too, but this evil warden who just treats them like animals and his band of merry little hillbillies, they they gotta get to him first.
Warden
01:22:58 Here, small over here is small and this is rock cliffs.
01:23:04 All the way they can run straight through here, down the river to the lake.
Larry
01:23:08 Between here and there is Marsh and Bog. They'll never get through.
Warden
01:23:12 Yeah, but this is higher ground. It's less impossible what surrounds it.
Robert Urich
01:23:16 No.
Warden
01:23:16 All we've got to do.
01:23:17 Two, we start at this end of the corridor and work our way back.
01:23:22 And that pass is going to run.
01:23:23 Them right into our arms.
Larry
01:23:25 If this is a wild goose chase Floyd, then up.
Warden
01:23:27 It'll work, Mason. Now I know these boys. I know how they think.
01:23:33 It happened back before dark.
Devon Stack
01:23:36 Boy howdy. We sure will. Again. It makes you wonder why they have to amplify it so much, why they have to change it so much.
01:23:45 And then you have more of the the policing of language.
01:23:49 You have another situation where the white guy calls, calls Carl Weathers a nigger and he freaks the fuck out because that's totally not only is it acceptable, it's expected and justified and.
01:24:06 Encouraged.
Carl Weathers
01:24:11 Gotta rip your arm off.
01:24:15 Don't tell me nobody.
01:24:32 He did.
01:25:28 About.
01:25:29 It's just the word.
01:25:32 I didn't make up the words.
01:25:35 How do you?
01:25:35 Make up those rules.
Deputy
01:25:39 It's just the way it is.
Devon Stack
01:25:43 It's just a word, see why it's the same kind of framing after the longest, most boring fight scene in cinema history. You have the same kind of questions that, again, white people would still have 30 years later. What's the big deal? It's a word. Why do you fly into a fucking rage when I say this word?
01:26:03 You know, I I didn't invent this word. It's just it's just a fucking word and we should be able to, you know, sticks and stones will break my bones. But with the never hurt me kind of thing again. It's something they're gonna always have to address. It's something they still have.
01:26:17 To address even today.
Robert Urich
01:26:21 And you're.
Deputy
01:26:21 Stuck with it. Don't tell me what I'm stuck. Boy, fall back as I can. Being told to keep my place. We're looking in the mirror. Seeing boy and seeing not a grew up hating what I saw.
01:26:39 Nowadays yoga, when I look in the mirror.
01:26:43 What I see is a man.
01:26:44 Merman.
01:26:47 Stand up, man.
Carl Weathers
01:26:48 We're mad.
Hick 2
01:26:51 Well, I'm real happy.
Deputy
01:26:57 As long as you hear me joke.
01:27:00 You hear me? Choose.
Devon Stack
01:27:10 And so, with the gayest soundtrack ever.
01:27:16 And the touching the touching now, I used to look in the mirror and I'd see a boy I'd see a. But now I see him, man.
Carl Weathers
01:27:26 I see a man. You better listen to me now. I'm a man. Damn it.
Devon Stack
01:27:31 How dare you use that dehumanizing language? So, just like in the 1st movie, they they copy the same scenario, they get stuck in the the pit.
01:27:42 Of water. This time, instead of a horse and buggy, it's to avoid a helicopter. And while it wasn't.
01:27:49 Is.
01:27:51 Artfully done, you have the exact same kinds of shots where the only way they can get out of the pit. The only way the the white man can overcome the obstacle is by climbing over on top of the black man. You know, it's literally the exact same kind of shot that you had the 1 from 1958.
01:28:12 Just it was just worse.
01:28:15 They just, they just did a worse job.
01:28:17 Bob.
01:28:18 And so then I was like, well, I wonder. I wonder if in this one.
01:28:22 I mean, because we've learned a lot about infectious diseases, you know, and medical science has progressed a lot.
01:28:31 It'd be silly if they tried to pull out the same, you know, magical negro medicine that they did in 1958.
01:28:40 You know when they got out of the pit and he's like, let me let me cure your wound with this handful of mud.
01:28:48 And so as I wonder if they'll do this.
01:28:50 And.
Carl Weathers
01:28:53 What are you doing?
Robert Urich
01:28:54 Well, it's your hands, OK.
01:28:57 And he's fixing. Don't do me any favors.
01:28:59 Favor.
Primus
01:29:38 My name is Mud.
Devon Stack
01:29:58 So they like they they they decided to. They decided to still to keep the mud thing. I don't OK.
01:30:09 So he he cures his hand with magic Haitian mud trick.
01:30:16 For some reason.
01:30:19 And they decide to. Alright, let's go.
01:30:24 Let's go. Oh, wait, wait. Then they have to have they have to have more moralizing. More, more speeches.
01:30:32 From Carl Weathers, he has to explain that he's very disappointed in the white man. He's very disappointing the white man because he tries to find as as most black people do.
01:30:44 He tries to find the good in every one. All he wants is people to be decent. That's all any black man wants and he and he's very disappointed because here he is chained to this white man and and he just doesn't see anything decent about him. And why can't you just be decent? Why can't why can't white people just behave?
01:31:03 I mean, if, as long as we're stuck together, right, as long as we're chained together like this and we really can't go our separate ways no matter what, I mean, it's just. It's sorry. That's the way it is. We don't make the rules. We're just, for some reason we're stuck together like this for.
01:31:17 Unity because of the mistakes of Jewish slave traders 400 years ago, we now have to pay that price for literally Infinity and it's really the price is being paid by the black people forever. They all they're they're going to be stuck living around these, these evil white people and you know, it's just.
01:31:37 It's it's. It's a shame.
Carl Weathers
01:31:40 All my life I've seen some people treat other people like dirt, black and white, something I'd be happy if I could find something.
01:31:43 Right.
01:31:46 Decent in you.
01:31:53 He does something. Somebody like me to be telling somebody like.
01:31:55 You.
01:31:58 A little bit better I've ever known. Just looking for something decent looking, some decent as somebody else looking something, something to to be talked to, decent to be treated decent like they they needed.
01:32:06 To keep on going.
01:32:09 What's wrong with being decent? Don't cost nobody. Nothing.
01:32:18 There's no decent, that's all.
Devon Stack
01:32:21 Shit. Why can't Whitey just be decent?
01:32:28 So the sheriff is still trying to track them because they keep going through the water. The whole movie, they just they must have done on the shooting schedule. They must have done just days of them going across the same river over and over and over again because it half the movie is them going across like this river.
01:32:46 Back and forth and I guess it's it's throwing the dogs the sniffing dog.
01:32:51 Things.
01:32:52 So meanwhile, they introduced the the single mom a little bit differently. In this movie, they make her appearance.
01:33:04 Known earlier on prior to meeting the convicts, the warden, who is of course accompanied by.
Larry
01:33:12 Hi, I'm Larry.
01:33:21 This my brother Darrell and this my other brother Darrell.
Devon Stack
01:33:25 So Larry, Darrell, and Darrell and the warden, they they come across the single mom. She's living in some shack in the middle of fucking nowhere, and he's asking her if she's seen any convicts in the area.
Warden
01:33:41 Ma'am.
Larry
01:33:42 Howdy.
Warden
01:33:43 My name is Floyd Carpenter. I'm the warden over at.
Larry
01:33:45 State prison farm.
01:33:49 And we're looking for two men.
Woman
01:33:52 I'm only looking for.
01:33:53 Hold on.
Hick 2
01:33:54 When you don't have befriend talk to me.
Woman
01:33:58 Yet not me.
Devon Stack
01:34:01 So they slowed.
01:34:02 Her up a little bit more because it's the 80s, right? I guess you kind of have to do that. You know what the what? What was subtle whole language in 1958 you have to be a little more aggressive with than.
01:34:14 In 1986.
Larry
01:34:15 Thank you for your time.
Woman
01:34:16 Would you like a cup of coffee or maybe just sit a spell?
Larry
01:34:21 Great to have your time right now.
Sidney Poitier
01:34:24 You just come back anytime and I'll make you up something real nice.
Devon Stack
01:34:31 That's right, you have something real nice.
01:34:36 If you know what I mean.
01:34:39 And so he's the wardens, like, I'm flattered, but I gotta go find me the convicts.
01:34:44 So the convicts are.
01:34:45 Still running around crossing the river back and forth, back and forth over and over and over again.
01:34:51 And they are throwing the dogs. Who are, you know, confused by it. And every once in a while, the sheriff gives us these little explicit messages.
Police man
01:35:05 The whole way through.
Devon Stack
01:35:07 This this is where this is where they found the pit, right? They found the pit and they're like, well, that's weird. They they had to have worked together to get out of this pit.
Police man
01:35:17 They thought the whole way though, too.
Sheriff
01:35:21 Like they pulled.
01:35:21 Together, they're supposed to hate each other.
01:35:25 It's easy to hate when you keep your distance.
01:35:27 It's a lot harder on the.
01:35:28 End of the chain.
Devon Stack
01:35:34 Hey, it's bad.
01:35:40 So yeah, it's it's it's, it's, it's stupider.
01:35:45 It's stupider. It just it. It's gotten a lot stupider, and it's more explicit.
01:35:51 And you have to wonder if this propaganda was revealing something true. Why would you have to hit people over the head with it even harder 3030 years later?
01:36:05 So they, you know, again, keep going through rivers over and over and over.
01:36:08 Again.
01:36:10 And the Black deputy is like.
01:36:12 Well, boss, I think we're going to find him.
Deputy
01:36:14 Do you really think we're gonna catch these?
01:36:16 2 Leroy let's do that.
LEROY JENKINS
01:36:16 Ready guys. LEROY JENKINS
Sheriff
01:36:22 Our job is to do the.
01:36:23 Best we can.
Devon Stack
01:36:25 I was a girl about Leroy. The sheriff. You're gonna find we're gonna get them. We're the best we can. That's all we can really ask for. It is kind of funny. It's kind of funny because even now, like the lens, if you were to show this to a a left-leaning, which is to say, pretty much everybody these days audience in 2020.
01:36:45 Five, they would look at this relationship between Sheriff Leroy and this guy is racist because they would say, oh, he's always being condescending. He's always like, well, boss, boss, we gotta find a boss. He's like, well, we sure is. We gonna.
01:36:59 Try at least.
01:37:00 You you just you just settle down there. You. You're a good boy. You're one of the good ones.
01:37:00 Well do.
01:37:05 So they, you know, being pursued by the helicopter, they're looking around as they again keep crossing the river back and forth, back and forth.
Deputy
01:37:16 Now come on.
Robert Urich
01:37:17 I told you before, don't give me orders and I'm sick of you jerking me around like.
01:37:20 A kids toy time we.
01:37:22 Got moving, joker. Another thing you've been call me Joker ever since we started out. Just once. One of you. Try saying my name, Mr. Johnson, to see if you can pronounce it.
Deputy
01:37:31 Last thing in the world you're going to hear me call you is Mr.
Devon Stack
01:37:36 That's right. And he's still a black man. Still, the alpha always putting the white guy in his place, and he's super cringe ways like this.
01:37:43 All throughout.
01:37:45 They come across, I guess the equivalent of that small town that was in the 1st movie. It's a little fishing outpost.
01:37:54 And the warden finds it as well. And of course, the warden shows up with his.
Larry
01:37:59 I'm Larry. This is my brother, Darryl. This mother, brother Darrell.
Devon Stack
01:38:04 And they're ordering drinks.
01:38:06 And the bartender doesn't seem to lack them. He doesn't lack the cut of their jib. Something something bothers him about that, that Warren, that Warren doesn't seem like a good he seems like a racist. I ain't no racist. I might be able, hillbilly, but I'm.
01:38:18 One of the good hillbillies.
01:38:21 They wait till night falls and same similar situation. I was surprised when they didn't do the painting of the face just because. I mean if they were going.
01:38:30 Through the a lot of the other stuff that they copied from the first one, the painting of the face was actually kind of subtle, and I don't know, maybe, maybe just they they they just didn't think to. It would work out as it wouldn't make as much.
01:38:46 Sense.
01:38:47 So they go and sneak into a.
01:38:50 Shop in the little outpost and they start to look for tools to break their chain open, and that's when of course, they're interrupted by the warden. The warden finds him with his his band of Hicks and surprises them.
01:39:08 Some of these.
01:39:10 Turn off the light.
Larry
01:39:11 I'm Lauren.
01:39:15 That's my brother Darrell. Miss mother.
Police man
01:39:17 We know Larry.
Robert Urich
01:39:21 We're from the church.
01:39:24 Taking up the donation. It's in poor kids summer camp.
Warden
01:39:27 My friend is going to give you a little.
01:39:30 Training on how you gonna keep your mouth shut and you get back. We call it behavioral therapy.
01:39:38 Don't leave any bruises.
01:39:41 What are you doing live alone?
Thug
01:39:45 You never told me these two words of love.
Warden
01:39:48 I guess they've grown on each other since I've seen them.
01:39:51 I'll tell you when to stop.
Devon Stack
01:40:00 Oh.
01:40:00 Oh.
01:40:04 Oh, they look creepy. Bartender.
01:40:06 Guys like, oh, this ain't cool.
01:40:10 So they get tied up just like they did in the first movie.
01:40:14 To await.
01:40:16 Their fate while the Warden and Larry Darrell and Darrell Sleep in a nearby cabin.
01:40:22 And this is when you sort of get the back story.
01:40:25 Of why Carl Weathers is in prison.
Robert Urich
01:40:32 Thought you were for.
Carl Weathers
01:40:32 1 That's why you want to know.
Tony Curtis
01:40:40 Is it a secret?
Michael Scott
01:40:45 In our society, a black man can be arrested for almost anything.
01:40:53 He was probably.
01:40:54 At a sporting event and saw some people pushing each other.
01:40:59 And he intervened.
Devon Stack
01:41:04 Try to kill them.
01:41:05 Man.
01:41:07 White man, I've gotten those 60 acre farm.
01:41:19 And we weren't always going on our own place.
01:41:23 This man said if we.
01:41:25 Get this form in mint condition.
01:41:28 Prove our good.
Police man
01:41:29 Faith.
Devon Stack
01:41:30 Even going to sell it to us.
01:41:36 Oh.
01:41:40 Never saw the wind so happy.
01:41:42 You won't let me know that.
01:41:46 They're looking like the best piece of land.
01:41:47 In the county, too.
01:41:48 And I guess and then the white landowner spiritual.
01:41:50 Till one day.
01:41:52 Drives up in his fine car and gets out and looks over the place.
01:41:58 Telling me and say you got 10 days to get off my land on the king is looking so good. Don't give it to my daughter for a wedding present. Yeah.
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01:42:01 What?
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01:42:04 Oh.
Devon Stack
01:42:10 Knowing my boy standing there, looking at him, looking at me, I'm trying to remind him that.
01:42:17 We made us a deal.
01:42:19 What? What? What happened?
01:42:22 Looks at me with a big smile on his face.
01:42:26 You know, you got you a smart mouth thing about real smart mouth.
01:42:30 I have a mistake.
01:42:31 Alright, you're calling.
01:42:34 And I went after him with a 2 by 4.
01:42:37 Which of course is totally justified and expected.
01:42:41 See, it wasn't the fact that that he was screwed out of the land deal it he was fun until he called him a boy and then it was.
01:42:49 You know, all bets are off.
01:42:51 I meant to kill him, Joker. I meant to kill him. All I did was build them up.
01:42:56 Though want to let you fold them.
Robert Urich
01:42:58 Up really good and.
Devon Stack
01:43:00 Yeah. You gonna have bigger boy on his mind, or did he die?
01:43:03 Yeah.
01:43:05 Taught that cracker a lesson.
01:43:08 So yeah, he's in jail because someone called him A and he jumped out and tried to kill.
01:43:18 Then the fat guy from before that was creepily staring at them to the window shows up with a knife and cuts them free and lets them go because he says he hates the warden because he used to also be on a chain gang.
01:43:32 Then the next morning, the warden is upset to find that they're missing. The sheriff catches up with the warden, and they're like, oh, my God, he's been set free.
01:43:41 And they start running through rivers again, because that's all they do in this movie is constantly run through rivers.
Little Boy
01:43:51 Pull it right there.
Robert Urich
01:44:00 How you doing, boy?
Little Boy
01:44:01 I know who you are.
Devon Stack
01:44:03 Hey and I know who that is too.
Captain Pickard
01:44:05 Shut up, Wesley. Shut. Shut. Shut. Shut. Shut up, Wesley.
Startrek Lady
01:44:08 Shut up, Wesley.
Captain Pickard
01:44:10 Shut. Shut, shut, shut, shut.
Startrek Lady
01:44:11 Up. Shut up, Wesley.
Captain Pickard
01:44:13 Shut up, Wesley.
Startrek Lady
01:44:15 Shut up, Wesley.
Captain Pickard
01:44:17 Shut up, Wesley.
Startrek Lady
01:44:18 Shut up, Wesley. Shut up. Wesley. Wesley.
Captain Pickard
01:44:20 Shut. Shut, shut, shut. Shut up. Wesley, shut. Shut. Shut. Shut. Shut up, Wesley.
Startrek Lady
01:44:25 Shut up.
Devon Stack
01:44:29 So Wesley Crusher shows up. He's the boy.
01:44:31 With the gun.
01:44:33 And it's very similar situation happens only it's. It's more clumsily shot, but it's the same sort of a thing. There's an encounter that's initiated by the white guy and they injure the white boy, but the white boy is racist and wants to be protected from the black man. It's the same stupid scene.
Little Boy
01:44:53 Well, 2 for me. You wanna put his hands on?
01:44:55 Good.
01:45:01 Me again, Mr.
Devon Stack
01:45:05 And see. But now you have.
01:45:08 Look at the looks on his face. The look on the face of the white man. It's like it's it's finally clicking.
01:45:14 It's finally starting to click. Oh my God. Maybe you have had to go through life with everyone looking at you and judging you because of the color of your skin.
01:45:24 Because here in this scenario.
01:45:25 No.
01:45:26 I was the one that threw sand in his face and then he ran to me as if I was going to protect him from you when you weren't doing nothing.
01:45:35 Wow, I guess I never really knew what it was like to experience racism, but I just saw a perfect example of it right here before my very eyes.
01:45:46 So they tell the boy to take him to his whore mother.
Woman
01:45:53 How long you been chained to him?
01:45:55 Too long, I think I can help you. Come on. Follow me over here.
Police man
01:46:08 Lay your hands down on this chopping block.
Woman
01:46:11 Stretch the chain tight.
Devon Stack
01:46:16 So she's going to chop open the the chains with.
01:46:18 An ex strong, powerful woman.
Robert Urich
01:46:35 Monroe have never been so happy to be free of anything in my whole life.
Deputy
01:46:46 There's some woods in this house.
Devon Stack
01:46:47 Yeah.
01:46:50 So yeah, the horde, the Hore has a new target, new target.
01:46:58 And again, I was kind of expecting, I was like, well, thank God it's not.
01:47:03 At least she wasn't going for Carl Weathers.
01:47:05 And I remember well, it's because it's it's 1986.
01:47:09 It's 96, even going up until like the 2000s. Like you look at the the teen movies in the 2000s, right?
01:47:17 Like the like the the Scream movies and things like that. They had the token black friend and he had never had a white girlfriend. He had a token black girlfriend.
01:47:28 That was that wasn't that long ago. It wasn't that long ago that race mixing was, even if not explicitly, was implicitly.
01:47:40 Distasteful.
01:47:42 Enough to where they knew the film makers knew. Putting it in movies would would would lose them some.
01:47:49 Of the audience.
01:47:52 It really wasn't until very recently that they started shoving all these interracial couples in your face.
01:48:00 Because again, like you would think if they were made the if they remade this movie again today, obviously she'd be going for the black man, I guess because of the story she kind of has to go for the white guy, but that that's not the only reason why.
01:48:16 I think they decided to keep the white woman because this was not and maybe this was implied and I just didn't pick up on it in the 1958 version. But there's a there's not another reason this character exists, or at least the way that this movie was done in 1986 in 1986.
01:48:36 This woman does not play.
01:48:41 Just a a temptress. She is not just like oh, she's the bitch that is tempting the man away from his buddy.
01:48:50 It's a lot worse than that.
Sheriff
01:48:54 And well, says that the trainer runs close by.
01:48:55 Is that right?
Police man
01:48:56 Yeah, that's right.
Woman
01:48:58 About a mile down the river comes along every day, about an hour or so from now, you got time to eat.
01:49:13 Here's the fast food they'll put hair on your.
Police man
01:49:16 Chest. What about him?
Hick 2
01:49:21 Freedom.
Woman
01:49:22 I've never had one of them.
Police man
01:49:24 At my table before.
Warden
01:49:24 This is our first time for everything. Now, feed him, sit down and roll. Sit down and eat.
Devon Stack
01:49:31 See, she doesn't even want a black person.
01:49:33 At her table.
01:49:35 Because what she represents, and it'll become increasingly clear as this scene unfolds.
01:49:42 She represents racial solidarity.
01:49:47 That's the final boss.
01:49:50 That's the final hurdle.
01:49:52 That the film makers are trying to get through.
01:49:56 To deliver this message.
01:49:59 It's the final obstacle.
01:50:01 The temptation.
01:50:04 That he has to ignore.
Hick 2
01:50:06 Yeah.
Devon Stack
01:50:08 Why would you want to put white people first?
01:50:12 You have this temptation of look. He's got instant family.
01:50:15 That's what he kind of wanted.
01:50:18 That's what he's talked about in previous parts of the movie, where he just wanted a good woman.
01:50:24 And make an honest living.
01:50:26 And it's being handed to him on a silver platter.
01:50:30 He's got a white woman who's cooking for him.
01:50:34 She's got, you know, sure. It's a humble home, but I mean, for a convict. What? What? You know what's what has what has he got to complain about it?
01:50:42 Instant family.
01:50:47 And that's the temptation, not not poontang like it was in the 1958 version, I think, or at least I didn't pick up on any racial messaging in the 1958 version.
01:51:00 Where she's been explicitly exclusionary.
01:51:05 And explicitly racist.
01:51:09 And trying to get him to. And again I think you'll be shocked that some of the dialogue coming up here.
01:51:15 Trying to get him to stop simping for this new black friend of his.
01:51:22 Now that they've worked out all their differences.
01:51:25 Now that they've worked at all their differences and he's decided you know what, we're not so different, he and I.
01:51:31 That's not enough. It's not enough for him to accept that. And then for them to go there different, separate ways now that the chain has been cut.
01:51:38 No, he has to prioritize the black man over a white family.
Woman
01:51:52 What's your name, honey?
Hick 3
01:51:54 Johnson, John and Johnson.
Police man
01:51:57 Now.
Woman
01:51:57 My first name is Pauline, my behind name don't matter, so I guess you've been around.
Devon Stack
01:51:59 Yeah.
Robert Urich
01:52:08 How could you tell?
Woman
01:52:09 I don't know.
01:52:11 I guess a man who's been around just can't hide it.
01:52:16 He's got a.
01:52:19 He's got a sort of.
Carl Weathers
01:52:21 I think the word the lady's.
01:52:22 Looking for is class Joker.
Woman
01:52:23 If I'm looking for something I don't need you to help.
01:52:25 Me. Find it.
01:52:26 I was talking to Mr. Johnson.
Robert Urich
01:52:31 Can you hear that one well?
Hick 2
01:52:33 Mr.
Woman
01:52:39 I can offer you something a whole lot better than that train.
01:52:45 I got me a car out there in the shed.
Robert Urich
01:52:50 What kind of car?
Woman
01:52:51 And four wheels won't run.
Devon Stack
01:53:04 A very similar ring.
01:53:06 You got the same kind of a situation. She's got a car for the getaway. They don't have to get on the train. But again, she, hers. The seduction that's taking place here is not on its face. A slutty woman, a slutty single mom trying to get get a man. That's what it is on its face. But really, what she represents is.
01:53:26 Whites?
01:53:28 As a community separate from blacks, the chain has now been broken. You're no longer forced to be around the black man.
01:53:38 You now have to choose that proximity.
01:53:42 Now that you've learned that you're not also, you know, different than you guys are good buddies.
01:53:47 You have to.
01:53:49 Ignore this temptation of racial solidarity. As seductive as it might be.
01:53:58 And you might think I'm exaggerating. But you won't in a.
Woman
01:54:00 Moment after you finish eating wouldn't hurt my feelings. None of.
01:54:06 You got lost.
Devon Stack
01:54:12 So, based slutty single mom is telling the black man to get out of here. He doesn't belong here.
01:54:19 He decides to try to fix the car and she's still trying to tempt him.
Hick 2
01:54:25 Hi.
Police man
01:54:31 You're not married, are you? What I mean is, you're not running to.
Woman
01:54:35 A woman somewhere, are you?
Police man
01:54:39 Are you running to a woman somewhere?
Tony Curtis
01:54:39 What?
Larry
01:54:42 Your air filter.
Robert Urich
01:54:43 Looks like the inside of a vacuum.
Woman
01:54:44 Cleaner bag. Don't.
Robert Urich
01:54:45 You know, cars gotta breathe. Just like people get in, see.
01:54:48 If it'll start, why can't you?
Police man
01:54:49 Just answer.
Woman
01:54:50 Me. Are you running to a woman?
Robert Urich
01:54:52 No. Now once you get in feel.
Devon Stack
01:54:53 Free to start.
01:55:00 Oh, the good old days of carburetors.
01:55:05 Meanwhile, the hot on the tail.
01:55:08 Out there, you know, is the dogs and stuff. They're getting closer, but then it gets more and more explicit.
Robert Urich
01:55:16 There you go. Alright, now give us some gas. Let up. Give it. Alright, good enough.
Woman
01:55:31 Hey, where you going?
Robert Urich
01:55:31 Going to get Monroe.
Police man
01:55:33 Me. You don't think I'm giving you my car seat when you run off of him? I said that I had a car. Me and the.
Devon Stack
01:55:36 Well, you said you had a product.
Police man
01:55:41 Kid, go with it.
01:55:43 There won't be enough room for him.
Robert Urich
01:55:46 You understand? You see me, Monroe. He was.
Police man
01:55:47 Are you trying to say?
01:55:49 That he means more to you than me.
Devon Stack
01:55:52 Are you trying to say that he means more to you than me?
01:55:57 Your people.
01:55:59 We don't have room for him.
01:56:02 You need to watch out for your own people.
Robert Urich
01:56:08 Well, no, I'm not saying that.
Woman
01:56:09 Well, then, don't make it sound that way, honey.
Police man
01:56:13 You and me, we're the.
01:56:13 Same people, don't you see? Don't you see the?
01:56:18 Word I'm offering you as your own.
Woman
01:56:27 You won't be making any mistake with me. You've never been taken care of. Like what I can do.
Devon Stack
01:56:38 So.
01:56:43 So the choice is between.
01:56:45 Trying to take care of the black man out of some weird sense of responsibility, maybe even some kind of guy.
01:56:53 Because of the hardships that you perceive that he's gone through at at, perhaps your expense. Remember the pit when you had to climb on his shoulders to get out. It's not really that tricky. The metaphor, especially when she spells it out and says, don't you understand what I'm offering you?
01:57:11 I'm offering you your people.
01:57:13 And that's the seductive voice they want you to ignore.
01:57:17 That's the seductive voice that they need you to look. Look as as if it's.
01:57:23 It's as disgusting as an easy woman who doesn't even know you. She just she maybe she'll. Maybe it it sounds good. Like it'll be a good time. But you know it's going to end in disaster. What really matters is your responsibility to the black man.
01:57:41 And so he comes over and understands that he's not wanted anymore and runs off after being given directions on where to go. And it's a similar thing as to the, you know, the, the, the original movie where she basically leads him into a trap.
01:57:59 And.
01:58:00 But.
01:58:01 When, when? When he finds out that.
01:58:04 He set up Monroe or she set up Monroe. He flies into a rage.
Larry
01:58:08 You gotta pack heavy rag you got, I.
Robert Urich
01:58:09 Can hear the dogs.
Police man
01:58:10 Don't worry about. We're almost ready here. Come on. Get in the car. Hurry up.
Woman
01:58:24 Besides, the law's going to think you two died together.
Robert Urich
01:58:40 What do you mean die together?
Police man
01:58:42 He's never going to see that train. That's the worst swamp in.
01:58:46 This whole country.
Robert Urich
01:58:48 What are you saying?
Devon Stack
01:58:50 What are you saying?
Police man
01:58:52 Then pass the dogs is gonna sniff him right up.
01:58:54 To a sump hole. Quicksand.
01:58:57 You got together in the mouth in the mile.
01:59:00 And I'm gonna dream about you.
01:59:02 Going off to Kansas City.
Devon Stack
01:59:04 You talk.
Woman
01:59:06 You they gonna have a look for you again?
01:59:11 I get it for you and me and you and good time with the same people.
Robert Urich
01:59:16 You don't know me.
01:59:19 You don't even know me.
Devon Stack
01:59:29 And again, while screaming, we're the same people.
01:59:34 I did it. I did it for us, for us to prosper. Who gives a fuck what happens to him?
01:59:41 In that moment, he makes his decision.
01:59:45 He would rather turn his back on his people.
01:59:49 And go be with his new black friend.
01:59:54 So just like in the the original you know, I guess the the location of the gunshots a little bit definitely been shot.
02:00:02 In the side, instead of the shoulder he runs and finds Monroe and warns him that, Oh no, she told you to go some way where you would sink into the quicksand and die, and the dogs are catching up.
02:00:17 They find the train. It's the exact same kind of a scenario.
02:00:21 Black Man gets on the train. First you have the hero shots, just not as artfully done.
02:00:27 And he's he's reaching out. You even got, like, the. Oh, like the the iconic black and white hand outstretched, reaching out to to clasp each other in solidarity.
Robert Urich
02:00:42 Oh.
02:01:29 No.
Hick 2
02:01:30 No, no, I can't.
Devon Stack
02:01:45 And it.
02:01:47 Winds up in this same exact homoerrotic pose.
02:01:51 He's being cradled, the black man's cradling the white man in his arms like a baby.
02:01:57 And begins to sing.
Carl Weathers
02:01:59 There's a man who in the.
02:02:08 There's a man going round.
02:02:12 Hmm.
02:02:14 There's a man going round taking names and he took my sister's name and he.
Porn Jew
02:02:20 It sounds talmudic.
Carl Weathers
02:02:25 Yeah.
Alex Jones
02:02:28 Had a lot of black friends, by the way.
02:02:30 And play football, everything.
Carl Weathers
02:02:35 Hello.
02:02:43 There's a man going around and you know he took my name.
02:02:54 And leave. There's a man going round seeking name.
02:03:16 Here the game isn't.
Devon Stack
02:03:30 Literally the end.
02:03:35 Just like the first one.
02:03:38 And so there you have it. You got 2 identical.
02:03:43 Well, our remake really of the same Communist propaganda that was produced and.
02:03:48 1958 and 1986.
02:03:51 And if anything, it had it got louder.
02:03:55 And stupider.
02:03:57 And more explicit.
02:04:01 And at this point, and it's funny, because I feel like in some ways that was like.
02:04:06 A high watermark.
02:04:09 In terms of of trying to to convince white people.
02:04:16 In fact, I would say.
02:04:18 Maybe, maybe somewhere in the 90s.
02:04:21 To early 2000s.
02:04:23 There was a shift.
02:04:26 There is a shift.
02:04:28 That went from trying to convince white people.
02:04:32 That hey.
02:04:34 You know what? It's it's we're not so different to.
02:04:40 No, we are actually and you're the bad guy.
02:04:44 Because.
02:04:47 We've done the analysis.
02:04:49 We've realized white people don't have political power anymore.
02:04:54 In fact, when a candidate is perceived.
02:04:59 As a white supremacist candidate like Trump.
02:05:04 He's he's negrophilic as fuck.
02:05:10 And so the, the you you lost.
02:05:14 We don't have to convince you anymore.
02:05:17 We don't have to convince you of this image.
02:05:20 You already embrace it.
02:05:26 So now we can switch to really what we were getting at in the first place.
02:05:33 By breeding you out.
02:05:35 With this constant barrage of interracial relationships and commercials and television and TV.
02:05:42 With all the the positive leading male roles in movies all being either black guys or maybe a white guy with a black girlfriend or something like that, or a gay guy.
02:05:57 But we don't have to convince you anymore.
02:06:00 It's done.
02:06:03 We just had, we just had to drag you along by the hand.
02:06:09 And and and make you feel like it was OK. Convince you lol you to sleep.
02:06:16 While we systematically.
02:06:19 Took away all of your institutional power.
02:06:25 All your racial solidarity.
02:06:30 Atomized you to an A point where.
02:06:34 At this point, I would say, at least in America, the prevailing white culture is rooted in individualism.
02:06:44 And not not like a healthy Western ideals kind of individualism, like the rugged individualism, but an extreme version of individualism.
02:06:56 An extreme version that's suicidal. In fact, even the rugged individualism to some extent.
02:07:04 ABC.
02:07:04 I think the racial solidarity.
02:07:07 That white people used to have that, that in and of itself is is suicidal.
02:07:13 You can't have both.
02:07:18 You can't have an absence of racial consciousness.
02:07:23 In solidarity.
02:07:25 While simultaneously.
02:07:28 Embracing individualism in an environment where every other group.
02:07:33 Is collective.
02:07:36 Every other group is racially conscious.
02:07:39 And every other group.
02:07:42 To some degree.
02:07:45 Views you at at minimum.
02:07:48 As a competitor with an unfair advantage.
02:07:55 An unfair advantage that that kind of changes the rules.
02:08:00 The rules of engagement are different.
02:08:06 And that's really a concept that white people have struggled with.
02:08:11 You can see it in movies like this.
02:08:17 You can also see it during this era and a little bit afterwards, right? And I've talked about where you would watch these.
02:08:25 Stand up specials, black comedians.
02:08:29 On HBO, def Comedy, Jam or something like that.
02:08:33 With an audience that's very white.
02:08:37 And the entire.
02:08:39 Act is if or at least a good portion of it is shitting on white people.
02:08:46 And white people laugh.
02:08:50 And the reason why they laugh.
02:08:53 Is the rules of engagement.
02:08:56 Are a direct reflection.
02:09:00 Of how you perceive.
02:09:02 The threat?
02:09:04 And white people always perceived implicitly, if not explicitly, certainly not explicitly, in the last several decades.
02:09:13 Instinctively, I think maybe is a better term.
02:09:17 Instinctively, they did not view blacks.
02:09:20 As a serious threat.
02:09:22 They did not view.
02:09:23 Other races really as a serious threat.
02:09:26 And why would you?
02:09:30 Why would you?
02:09:32 Growing up as a white person in the West.
02:09:35 Looking back at the last several centuries of history.
02:09:39 Looking at all the innovations white people have.
02:09:44 Imagined into existence.
02:09:48 The technological superiority.
02:09:51 Civilization.
02:09:56 Superiority.
02:10:02 White primacy.
02:10:07 It's one of those things you don't miss it until it's gone.
02:10:15 In the same way, many blacks have an inferiority complex.
02:10:20 Because they look back at their history and it's nothing to brag about.
02:10:25 Whites, I think, experienced a type of hubris.
02:10:29 Looking back at their history and thinking well.
02:10:32 Clearly we have nothing to worry about.
02:10:36 We have been dominant.
02:10:41 Without wondering why or if there was maybe something instrumental?
02:10:48 Philosophically.
02:10:50 That held that together.
02:10:57 Without without calculating.
02:11:02 What racial consciousness?
02:11:05 What role that played?
02:11:12 So when they got rid of it.
02:11:17 Thanks in part.
02:11:21 To Jewish propaganda like this.
02:11:26 They just expected things to keep going. You can tell this just by looking at Star Trek.
02:11:32 Right when white people would would view the future.
02:11:37 Yeah, it's a multicultural crew, but guess what?
02:11:40 Captain Picard and Riker are still white.
02:11:46 Even the weird robot is a white guy. Everyone. Wesley Crusher, the boy genius, is white. Everyone. Everyone in charge with any kind of power is white. OK, we threw in the token. Black scientist. Engineer guy.
02:11:59 But at the end of the day, he.
02:12:00 Takes orders from the white guy.
02:12:02 Even in this movie.
02:12:04 Sure. We put in a black deputy, but yeah, the sheriff's.
02:12:07 White.
02:12:12 When it's framed in that way, multiculturalism seems like perhaps an acceptable arrangement.
02:12:21 OK. We can take in as we can. We can allow into our sphere into our proximity a select few of the best and brightest of these others.
02:12:31 So long as at the end of the day, they listen to us.
02:12:35 So long as at the end of the day we're the ones calling the shots, we're the ones that are still the masters of our destiny.
02:12:49 You know, and it's funny because I think people give Trump way too much credit.
02:12:56 They think that somehow he might be responsible for this kind of.
Captain Pickard
02:13:01 Shift.
Devon Stack
02:13:05 And at least some white people.
02:13:07 Whether thinking racially.
02:13:10 When that's absurd.
02:13:13 It was Obama.
02:13:15 It was the first time.
02:13:17 White people had a black president.
02:13:24 And deep down, no matter how, I'm not really racist, the boomers would say even they.
02:13:31 Felt a little bit of discomfort.
02:13:34 They would never say it was because he was black. In fact, they would say the opposite, as loudly and as often as possible.
02:13:49 Trump was just simply their reaction.
02:13:53 He was the first candidate to even speak in racial terms to the degree that he did back in 2016.
02:14:03 Language. That's all been kind of.
02:14:07 Updated now and.
02:14:11 Because they've moved the football even further down the field.
02:14:17 Now they're OK with multiculturalism again, because Captain Picard is white.
02:14:24 The existential threat is no longer breathing down their their neck.
02:14:30 It's OK that Cash Patel's an Indian because he's at the end of the day, he still answers to a white man.
02:14:50 So anyway, I thought it was interesting.
02:14:53 It's.
02:14:53 I always like it when I can find movies like this where they they do.
02:14:58 They do the same film.
02:15:01 And.
02:15:04 Yeah. I mean, it's super fucking cringe, but it's.
02:15:08 It's a.
02:15:10 Death by a thousand cuts even if this isn't a movie that that many people saw and and but many people did.
02:15:18 The.
02:15:19 You know this one? I I don't know what the audience numbers were.
02:15:23 Was you? You might have. They all tell that the the production value wasn't as high. That's because it was a made for TV movie, but that's that's that means a much larger audience.
02:15:35 Because this was an 86, no one had cable.
02:15:38 I don't remember what network this aired on. Well, let me take a look. Maybe it's maybe I got.
02:15:43 It my notes here.
02:15:50 What network maybe I might have ratings data actually.
02:15:59 ABC.
02:16:00 So it was on the family network, ABC was considered.
02:16:05 The family friendly network in the 80s and 90s. That's why they had that relationship with Disney. That's why they.
02:16:15 They got together as far as the broadcast goes at at. Yeah, they played it at prime time on Sunday night.
02:16:28 Aired on January 5th, 1986.
02:16:40 And I don't. There is no ratings information that I can find.
02:16:46 I'm looking here.
02:16:49 But it's definitely the kind of movie that your parents, your boomer parents would say. Come on, kids, we're going to watch this movie.
02:17:04 Anyway.
02:17:06 Let's take a look at.
02:17:10 The rumble chats.
02:17:12 Shall we?
02:17:16 Do do, do, do, do, do.
02:17:20 We got the Shogun.
02:17:23 Says bought a bunch of flash drives, filled them with your most important videos, and have been giving them to Boomer customers who are deemed fit and ready for your knowledge. Hail victory. Well, be interested to know how that works out. Boomers often do not respond well to criticism.
02:17:46 So there are certain episodes like even like tonight where I think that they would flip the fuck out of there because like I said, I think that you could show either one of these films.
02:17:59 Even the Super Cringy 80s version to a boomer today, and they would think this was a great movie, a great one that just showed the kids.
02:18:11 But you know.
02:18:13 I'd be interested to know if you hear anyone if you get any return.
02:18:18 Return customers on that, that would.
02:18:21 That would that would.
02:18:22 That would be a white pill, right? If you had a boomer come back, you're like, Oh my God, I have no.
02:18:27 Idea.
02:18:31 May have low moral fiber says. I have negro fatigue. Well, just if you're tired, just lay down in the arms of a of a of a gentle giant.
02:18:41 He'll Rock You to sleep.
02:18:47 Shashe's says, bro, my head is still spinning from the Patel Motel edition Live laugh redeem.
02:18:56 Yeah, that was a. That was a tough one. That was a tough one to.
02:19:00 Research and get through and to try to do it in a in a way that.
02:19:05 That would not be very boring and it would make sense.
02:19:10 And it was. It was infuriating, too, to discover again the part of the reason why they don't they don't have to make these kinds of movies anymore.
02:19:20 And they don't.
02:19:23 Is because they, while all this was going on.
02:19:26 Because you gotta realize.
02:19:29 By by telling people because blacks, let's just face it, blacks are the most different from us.
02:19:37 Blacks are the most different, the most obviously different, and the ones that you have the most data on, not just because of statistical data but just personal lived experience data.
02:19:50 And so if they can convince you that this image on the screen is in any way realistic, why in the world would you ever doubt that other people of of lighter shades of brown would be a problem?
02:20:09 Scrolling through here we go and they have low moral fiber, says. It's hard to not hate boomers who gobbled up this propaganda well again, yet yet to take look I I was very angry with bro. I still, I guess kind of a.
02:20:23 But I it's it's more under like the more that.
02:20:26 You.
02:20:27 Put yourself in their shoes, which is difficult to do because we can't afford their shoes. But the the more you you try to like, imagine what it would be like in the same way that the Internet has left a mark on us.
02:20:43 Television and movies did the same thing. To them. It was a technology that that the human mind was completely unprepared for, and it provided.
02:20:55 Experience or experiential data without the experience, and I don't think it's.
02:21:03 Because television and movies.
02:21:06 You could argue or not as immersive to people like you and me who have lived around.
02:21:16 Moving pictures and media our entire lives.
02:21:23 It's the novelty is not there, but also just like.
02:21:27 Yeah. You know, one way to look at it is.
02:21:31 If you ever go back.
02:21:33 And look at.
02:21:37 Like old video games.
02:21:39 That when you were a kid, you remember the ohh the graphics on this like you remember thinking the first time you played this video game.
02:21:48 The graphics were.
02:21:51 Phenomenal.
02:21:52 That wow. I can't believe how realistic it looks.
02:21:58 And it just seemed like it was. It was super immersive because of the, you know, how how 3D everything looked and and then you go and look and that that technology changed a lot, especially from well when the time this movie was made to today, it's like night and day, right you go.
02:22:18 You went from like Pac-Man basically to.
02:22:21 To I don't know, whatever the newest, you know, 3D video game is.
02:22:28 And it it's it's funny because you can go back and look at these older games and remember them being really cool. And now you look at them and you just like that looks like shit.
02:22:39 Like, how did I think that will look good?
02:22:42 And maybe there's some nostalgia tied to it, but you're just like, uh, it's kind of kind of fucking gay. Or you could say the same thing with special effects and movies.
02:22:51 Right. You can go back very few. I mean, there's a, there's a handful of movies where, like the the effects.
02:22:56 Hold up, right?
02:22:59 But you can you can look at older movies and remembering that, Oh yeah, I watched this movie and I don't remember thinking that there was anything that was distractingly bad about the special effects. I remember suspending my disbelief and being.
02:23:14 Enthralled by the the action, you know scene or whatever, and now you watch it and you're just like.
02:23:21 That looks so fucking fake. Like that looks so fake. How? I can't even pay attention to the movie because I'm just so distracted by how fake that looks.
02:23:30 And that that's I think that's that's something that you have to take into account when it comes to boomers watching television.
02:23:38 Is.
02:23:39 Is obvious and super gay, as these movies are that we watched today, hindsight.
02:23:46 Is 2020.
02:23:49 All these, all these tricks.
02:23:52 You know, with the hero shots and the visual metaphors, you know, like him putting the mud on the face or him crawling onto the black guy to get out of the pit and.
02:24:01 All this other stuff.
02:24:04 As obvious as, as much as that sticks out to us now, it was probably very clever when it came out.
02:24:12 And so when you understand that it's.
02:24:14 And you understand that how there were no alternative.
02:24:19 Information sources.
02:24:21 Like all boomers, everything they learn, they.
02:24:24 Learn from a Jew.
02:24:26 I mean really, I mean, maybe that's oversimplifying a little bit, but not really.
02:24:31 Not really.
02:24:33 The boomer worldview was defined.
02:24:36 By Jews.
02:24:40 And once you understand that, it's like, OK, well.
02:24:43 And you can't fix it. I mean, you really can't at that point. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
02:24:48 Land of the fake home of the gay says never does the anti white media show white comfort and togetherness. Always poison. Thank you for the parts of the antidote. You you provide well and exactly that white, the Hornish white woman. She was the temptation. I'm your people. You should put me first.
02:25:09 Don't worry about this guy.
02:25:14 She was the she was considered poison gravy Bear says. Here's a tip for roasting Scott Pressler. PS have you looked into Joseph Paul Franklin?
02:25:24 I have not.
02:25:28 I forget if that's someone.
02:25:30 That someone mentioned before or let me look and see what that is.
02:25:37 He's not a very attractive person. Who is he?
02:25:43 Serial killer.
02:25:48 Yeah, I don't know anything about this guy.
02:25:52 Weird serial killer guy.
02:25:56 Maybe I'll look into them afterwards.
02:25:59 Ah, let's see here. Scrolling down and we got mass graven image. Great show, Devin here. Some carbon credits. Breathe deeply.
02:26:12 That's right, because my carbon footprint is a mother fucker. Actually, it's not. I don't.
02:26:17 Really.
02:26:18 I'm very frugal with my with my energy consumption.
02:26:22 These days, not not out of necessity, I just don't.
02:26:26 I guess unless I'm using old radios that that stuff sucks up power like a mother fucker.
02:26:32 Robert V21 says residential residential Jay here going to catch a replay great stream about cash. Patel and his family motel scam. Well, there you go. Rupert, you don't have to tell us with your $2.00 that you were a Jew. It kind of just went without saying. But.
02:26:53 Nickel and diming me again with another one. Jansport bag to the best. I got the exact same 1 you had posted. I've been using it for a few years and it's still in great condition. See you on Saturday cap and stack people thought I was doing some kind of weird. I was making some kind of.
02:27:11 Point with that all I saw a picture I've told the story of when I ran away from home.
02:27:17 And I lived on the streets when I was like, 14 for a while, and that was I just saw a picture. I was like, oh, fuck, that's the literal. That's the backpack I had.
02:27:27 When I did that.
02:27:28 And I just posted a picture on Twitter and everyone.
02:27:30 Was kind of.
02:27:30 Like, what do you what? What do you mean?
02:27:32 By that, and of course I look it up.
02:27:35 And it's a a Jewish company, Jewish guy, who changed his last name. It was. It was actually pretty ridiculous. Like his this wasn't it. But it was. It was. He changed it from, like, Finkelstein to Mick. Mick Collins. Or like it was it was that kind of a bad his his. He changed his name from like the Julius name ever to a Scottish sounding name.
02:28:00 Scrolling down, scrolling down, scrolling down.
02:28:04 D Mitch says if you had to pick your position, which one or which one race would you allow to stay?
02:28:13 I'd pick Asians. They're relatively low in population, well behaved compared to brown immigrants and won't scam or subvert. I think you thinks too highly, evasions.
02:28:28 And there is a lot of them. They're not all here yet, but don't act like China doesn't have a massive population.
02:28:36 In fact, just E Asians generally, what's the population world population?
02:28:47 World population of East Asians.
02:28:52 Yeah, world population of East Asians is about 1.7 billion.
02:29:03 Which is actually. That's like the same amount that there are of Indians.
02:29:09 World population of white Europeans.
02:29:25 This is where they they get into like that. Well, what does white?
02:29:27 Really mean?
02:29:29 But the estimate that.
02:29:31 It's coming up with is. We're not even 1 billion.
02:29:34 It's saying 700 and 741 million.
02:29:40 So we're right around 11% of the population.
02:29:45 Yeah. Bottom line is, we shouldn't have to choose.
02:29:48 We shouldn't have to.
02:29:50 To choose.
02:29:52 And that's the wrong mindset.
02:29:54 If we want white homelands.
02:29:56 That we should have white homelands.
02:30:00 Now, that's not to say that.
02:30:03 That E Asians are.
02:30:05 As.
02:30:07 Negatively impacting.
02:30:09 Our, our.
02:30:15 I don't know what living standards or?
02:30:18 Or culture or nation. And they're not. They're not having as much of A they're not as dangerous as black people, you know, like that. That's not really the point. You know, that's not the point.
02:30:29 The point is that we should have our own homelands.
02:30:32 We should have our own homelands with our own destiny and just just as E Asians all have their own homelands.
02:30:41 And I and and I hope they keep their own homelands. I I don't want them to open the floodgates up to immigrants. Like many of them are beginning to do like Korea and Japan, it's.
02:30:52 Don't do it. Don't do it. I wanna. I want to go to Japan someday and have it be Japan.
02:30:59 You know, I want to go to Korea someday and have it be Korea.
02:31:03 I don't want to go to some East Asian country and walk around and and just it looks just as Western and and multicultural as as every other fucking city in America.
02:31:14 But I feel like that's.
02:31:16 At least the way things are trending.
02:31:21 Knight Nation says there really is no end to the anti white tropes. This stuff stuck in the boomer brain really badly.
02:31:30 Yes, it did. Yes, it did. And yeah, like I said, they they decided to remake it because who do you think was remaking it in 1986? It was boomers.
02:31:42 It was boomers.
02:31:45 I mean, so it you, you can't really blame, I guess the 19.
02:31:49 58 one on them because they were children, but.
02:31:53 They certainly they must have loved it when they were kids because they made it again.
02:31:59 Dee Mitchan says, would you ever consider using your YouTube channel as a bumper to promote your show before going live? Seems like it's a better option than having it slowly rot away into oblivion.
02:32:11 I mean, I don't know. I've thought about it. I feel like if I did that, they would just take the whole thing down.
02:32:18 Because they they took down a bunch of my videos that have been up for years and years and years, like 8 years. Some of these videos and they they just took down like five of them a couple of months ago.
02:32:30 So I don't know if that would just accelerate that or I don't know if it even really matters much. I do post on the community. I don't know that that even shows up anywhere. I think some people see it cause it ends up getting likes. I don't. I don't know how.
02:32:44 Useful it is to do it, but I post the notification on the channel every time.
02:32:47 I go live now.
02:32:51 I don't know. I just. I wish I wish YouTube would just die, but it won't because of.
02:32:59 You know, same reason Netflix will never die. It's just.
02:33:03 People like it, you know, we're we're in the minority.
02:33:09 Men of low moral fiber says how do people who believe Michelle Obama is a woman reconcile with the fact that she is five foot 11, which would be greater than 99.4% of all women in America and she didn't play college?
02:33:27 She didn't play college. Do you mean like college sports?
02:33:31 I don't know if our height is a really deciding thing, how? How tall is that for black women?
02:33:38 I don't know if black are black women taller than everybody else.
02:33:42 What's the?
02:33:45 Let me ask the Internet again.
02:33:53 Average height of black women. What do we got here?
02:33:58 Average height of black women.
02:34:07 Not asking a I don't see anything you think that would just be a quick, easy.
02:34:12 Thing to look up.
02:34:23 I guess it's not very tall, or at least let's see here. Yeah, 5 four is the average.
02:34:30 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm on the fence on that. I wouldn't be surprised. I would not be surprised to find out.
02:34:38 That Michelle Obama is a man not even a little bit.
02:34:42 Not even a little bit.
02:34:44 I kind of feel like it's very.
02:34:45 Possible.
02:34:47 Oh, here's a part too. That's why it.
02:34:48 Stopped.
02:34:49 Didn't play basketball as a 511 black woman. Any woman over 5-10 can at the minimum, get a scholarship. I don't know if they she could have backed it or he or whoever could have back then.
02:35:00 A small school for basketball because of Title 9. I don't know that Title 9 was.
02:35:08 As.
02:35:09 I don't even know if it existed actually.
02:35:19 Title line started in yes, I I don't think it would have applied started in 72.
02:35:26 It was gonna brand new. I don't know what year like.
02:35:30 When she would have been at college.
02:35:40 Well, I guess she would have been. Yeah. She went to college. I guess she's younger than I thought.
02:35:45 81 to 85.
02:35:47 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if.
02:35:49 That's, I don't know if height is the big evidence here.
02:35:53 Or or exploitation of Title 9, Occidental front, says Devin. How are you at the cutting dreams? I dreamt that we are just about to defeat the machines, but before the war was over, the AI sent a genetically engineered tribe back in time 5000 years to.
02:36:14 And then it stops to do something I guess.
02:36:17 I don't know. I don't. Maybe that was a premonition, not a dream.
02:36:23 Zaza Mataz Bot says. I'm sure you have touched on the subject before, but what damage has been done by the no fault divorce might not be enough for a stream, but something to think about. Good show tonight. I don't know. I guess I'd have to. I've never really looked into that too much. I've heard people talk about.
Deputy
02:36:43 It.
Devon Stack
02:36:44 But.
02:36:47 Yeah, it's, it's. I feel like that there's a lot of divorce guys that focus on that and I'm not a divorced guy, so I haven't really. And I don't know, I don't have a lot of divorce in my personal life, like my parents aren't divorced and.
02:37:01 I guess I I don't. I don't even. I don't really have a lot of friends that are divorced either.
02:37:06 So I don't have a lot of personal experience with divorce.
02:37:10 So.
02:37:11 So I don't really think about it much. I guess I'd have to look into it.
02:37:16 And I got we I I I get the talking points. I know like the all the red pill talking points and I understand why that would accelerate divorce and you know because it it means that.
02:37:29 Women can just take half your shit no matter what. That's obviously.
02:37:34 We're super fucked up, but.
02:37:37 Yeah, I I think it's just one of many things, one of many things. I guess it would be maybe maybe worth looking into the origin.
02:37:46 And if there's anything that correlates.
02:37:50 With it like tracks with it. Exactly. And we've talked about divorce before, like divorce America style. There was that movie.
02:37:58 With Dick Van Dyke.
02:38:00 And a couple other movies where they were glamorizing divorce and.
02:38:04 Yeah. The divorce rate skyrocket. And so that's another reason why you got to I think.
02:38:12 Put the boomers into perspective. The timeline they were on you had not just all the television come.
02:38:20 Out.
02:38:20 You had divorce come out of fucking left field. You had birth control come out of left field. You had well by left field. I mean Jews you had.
02:38:33 You know all the the drugs getting normalized and availability to psycho psychoactive drugs was greater than at any point in history.
02:38:44 They they they had a fucking they had, they were on a shitty fucking timeline and they were they were told to love it.
02:38:51 So you know.
02:38:55 Tyler W, 05.
02:39:09 Tyler W, 05, says replay gang I've had 11 hours of sleep in the last five days rebuilding the engine in my truck at my shop.
02:39:21 I'm fucking whupped.
02:39:23 Keep up or keep it up. Brother. I just wanted to give you support. I hope all is well. Hopefully we've been able to keep you company while you work on your truck.
02:39:31 I've been. I've been also busy in getting.
02:39:35 Very little sleep today. I I the weather was horrible, so I had to.
02:39:40 Stay in. But I've been trying to.
02:39:43 Do a lot of outdoor stuff that needs needs. It needs to be done before the the heat kicks in and and really makes things miserable out there and I'm trying to get the bees up and running, but it's not just the bee stuff. There's just a lot of just.
02:40:01 You know, like my property is was really cheap.
02:40:04 For a reason.
02:40:07 I'm just trying to make it like not shitty, like I don't even it's it's one of those things. It's never going to be awesome. It'll never be awesome. The amount of money it would take to make it awesome, you might as well get someplace else. So I just want it to be like, decent. I want to be decent and not shitty. And and it's just.
02:40:27 That's a struggle.
02:40:28 It's a struggle, so I've been I've been.
02:40:32 Hammering a lot of nails and.
02:40:36 Screwed a lot of screws and saw a lot of two by fours and painting a lot of shit and spraying a lot of expanding foam and.
02:40:44 You know, it's just just triage trying to get some of this stuff to like, you know, using using. Yeah, it's right.
02:40:53 There there's situations.
02:40:55 Where I'm like having the back well.
02:40:58 The right thing to do in this situation would be to pull that rotting wood out and replace it.
02:41:04 Or I can just saturate it with wood hardener and and give it a few more years.
02:41:13 You know, because it's just the the, the cost and the time and everything. Just like fuck you know.
02:41:20 I hate. I hate doing triage to to buildings, but sometimes you gotta do it.
02:41:26 Anyway, negro spritzer, of course, reliably expresses his.
02:41:36 His discomfort with Speaking of you know Michelle Obama's lack of basketball playing his.
02:41:42 His discomfort with those who perhaps are drawn to playing basketball.
02:41:48 And those who are also.
02:41:51 Drawn to monkeying around on porches, perhaps.
02:41:56 Back in back down in Alabama.
02:42:01 And we got man of low moral fiber, who is also seconds.
02:42:05 Mr. spritzer.
02:42:07 And then follows with. Technically speaking, I think abbos are even more different from whites than blacks are, but that doesn't really matter except for down under listeners. You know, it's funny.
02:42:20 I got this book.
02:42:22 It's right here actually.
02:42:24 The beekeeper's Bible.
02:42:27 It was like on sale it's like 400 pages.
02:42:32 And it's uh.
02:42:35 So.
02:42:35 Hardcover.
02:42:37 I got it on eBay for like.
02:42:41 16 bucks and it's like in great, like it's like brand new basically.
02:42:48 And I was like, oh, that's pretty sweet because I like having books, you know, and it's got a lot of good illustrations and.
02:42:54 Shit.
02:42:56 And I opened it up in the very beginning. It's kind of going through.
02:43:01 Like it's pretty extensive, a lot of it's not even about beekeeping so much as like.
02:43:04 The history.
02:43:05 Of beekeeping and it had a picture. I wonder if there's a way I can share this.
02:43:10 On stream somehow.
02:43:13 I could probably take a picture.
02:43:14 Of it on my phone and.
02:43:16 Send it to myself, but it had a picture of abbos beekeeping.
02:43:22 Let me see.
02:43:23 And by beekeeping.
02:43:26 Is that it? I'm going to find it here.
02:43:34 They they bee keep the same way Africans do and that is they just find beehives and destroy them.
02:43:43 And the way they find the hives.
02:43:46 Is they would they'd hang out by flowers and then they would literally chase a bee back like and the picture was abbos chasing bees.
02:43:56 Even the bees are running from the abbos.
02:43:59 Oh.
02:44:00 Let me see if I can find on the Internet. This is I don't have to go through four hundred fucking pages to find it.
02:44:06 I'll post it somewhere online if I find it afterwards.
02:44:23 Is.
02:44:24 Just going to pop up.
02:44:31 It doesn't, but I'll I'll, I'll.
02:44:32 Post it like on Telegram or something.
02:44:39 Ohh no I found it.
02:44:47 There it is.
02:44:51 Pop it up here.
02:44:58 Wait for the hard drive spin up.
02:45:01 It's like you don't even you're not even using that hard drive. It's like, wait for Windows to do anything.
02:45:08 Yeah, but I had this in the book.
02:45:10 And the books like, oh, look, even the abbos are doing it.
02:45:13 And like I said by don't they look like fucking Cavemen?
02:45:18 He's he's even got the club look, he's got all the beekeeping equipment. He needs a club and a net or like a bag, I guess to put all the honey. So he's chasing that fucking bee back home so he can destroy the home.
02:45:35 Yeah, that's that's Abbo beekeeping.
02:45:38 Is chasing bees back to their home and then just destroying their homes and ripping everything to shreds.
02:45:45 All right. Let's see here. Where's?
02:45:50 Where that tab go missing the chat tab.
02:45:54 Here we are.
02:45:57 Uh, bussinger says. I don't think television movies are as effective as the Internet. However, they didn't need it to be very effective back then either. They just needed enough to change the laws. Boy, I said more than you would think because you have a captive audience. No one had cable in 19 cigs.
02:46:17 There was four networks and one of them was PBS, and no one's fucking watching that. So you had ABC, NBC and CBS. And on a Sunday night.
02:46:27 There's nothing to do, and so you have.
02:46:31 Lots of Americans, especially in the 80s and in the 90's, the whole family was watching TV because you're not going out on Sunday night and Americans were addicted to television in the 80s and 90s.
02:46:45 And so if you played a movie on Sunday evening.
02:46:50 Right during prime time.
02:46:53 Millions of people would see it. Millions of people.
02:46:57 And I wish I I wish we had numbers. I'm sure there's numbers somewhere.
02:47:01 But at the very least, millions of people saw it.
02:47:06 And if not this one the the original.
02:47:10 Is considered a quote UN quote classic and is.
02:47:16 Included in a lot of, you know, classic collections and gets replayed on Turner Classic Movies and and I don't know if it's part of the Criterion Collection, but it's, you know, it's in that.
02:47:28 In that neighborhood and still gets rented and viewed today, fact you can rent. You know you it's you can rent it on YouTube and Netflix and Amazon today.
02:47:44 Mass. Grape mass graven image says research the lynching period using the LOC Newspaper Archive and every occasion I found had violence essay against women just say sexual assault. Why do people say I hate? I hate this Zoomer essay.
02:48:03 Thing like you can't just say rape, just say rape. Violent rape against women. Yeah. Yeah. In in men. Yeah, that's basically that's usually what it was.
Michael Scott
02:48:16 It's.
Devon Stack
02:48:17 If you got lynched, it's usually because a black guy raped a white woman. It's usually what happen.
02:48:24 But that's not the only situation you could say in a way that's kind of what happened with Leo.
02:48:30 Frank.
02:48:30 Even right, Leo Frank raped a white woman.
02:48:35 So it's that seems to be that does seem to be a.
02:48:40 A.
02:48:42 Commonality between all the different lynchings? Maybe not all of them, but a lot of them.
02:48:47 Bissinger says the boomers and the millennials grew up very differently. I don't have too much hope for my generation on racial reality, but I do think that we are a little more informed than our parents.
02:49:00 Yeah, millennials are not based, and there are, I would say, more racially conscious millennials than boomers, but they were raised by the boomers and.
02:49:14 You know, I think even the zoomers.
02:49:18 There's more of them. There's more racially conscious zoomers than millennials, but even if you look at them as a whole, I think people get too caught up in the Internet echo chamber and don't realize that, yeah, you know, sure, there it it's there are. There's a lot of base humors, but by no means is it generation.
02:49:39 Cyclon.
02:49:41 Zillow says I agree with your assessment on the Trump election for your average normy, but it feels to me like the fringes are radicalizing even more. Example, the violent commie lefties JQ right wing. Again, I think these are the fringes and these are the online fringes and it. And I think it gives people an inflated view.
02:50:02 Of what people are like in public, I think that at least where I live, everyone, almost everyone is pro Trump.
02:50:12 And they all love Jews.
02:50:15 And they all any. And they all don't care about Trump, not, you know, following through with anything. They're they they are 100% convinced that the deep state is on the retreat.
02:50:28 And patriots are in charge. Fight, fight, fight.
02:50:32 That, that's just the way it is.
02:50:35 Where I live and that's the way it is with many of my family members. That's the way it is with even some of my old friends from high school.
02:50:46 And that's just my experience.
02:50:51 The only in fact, the only time that's not the case is when I'm online.
02:50:55 So it's just something to keep in mind, something to keep in mind, Jesse Paul Holiday says boomers are very involved in social media.
02:51:05 And seem to be glued to their phones and influenced by social media just as much as younger generations. If that technology was released in any other earlier period.
02:51:16 Period. Would any other generation embrace it as much as the boomers? Or would they reject it and call out its destructive nature? Social media was tailor made for boomers, it seems. I I would disagree. I think everyone's fucked by social media.
02:51:34 Sure, boomers are on Facebook more, but zoomers are on TikTok all day and and they're on Twitter all day. And many of us are on social media all day. It's become just kind of how we communicate, I think because we are surrounded by, especially when you're in a dissonant movement, you're surrounded by people that make you feel.
Robert Urich
02:51:53 Easy.
Devon Stack
02:51:54 Because you're surrounded by people who don't.
02:51:57 Are aren't as informed haven't thought about these things as as deeply or as thoroughly and are caught up in just whatever the the mainstream is spoon feeding them and for the if nothing else, for the sake of our sanity.
02:52:18 We end up finding ourselves, for better or for worse, over the Internet, and that's just the way I think that it is.
02:52:25 I don't think that they're anymore or less influenced by social media, I think.
02:52:30 They're they are, they use different social they use it differently and you could you could say in fact maybe because of television they use it more passively.
02:52:42 Right. Like maybe to them it's just it's become more, it's like TV, it's like TV where that you can make comments if you want, but it's still more passive, right? Like you don't see a lot of boomers.
02:52:57 Even like the like, the big professional ones, right, like the Sean Hannity's of the world, right? You don't see them really being that successful on the Internet in terms of of going viral and and and that sort of a thing, right? Like Sean Hannity, who's got the force of Fox News behind him.
02:53:17 And you know all the algo help that he could ever want and people of that fear the boomer influencers fear from television and AM radio.
02:53:29 They don't really excel on the Internet.
02:53:33 And to the extent that they do, it's it's all again it's it's very passive, it's all very passive.
02:53:43 And their or their audience rather is is very passive.
02:53:49 And I think that that's that's probably what you see from boomers that's maybe different from other generations is they tend to believe.
02:53:57 Of more bullshit too, like boomers were more susceptible to Q Anon. As an example, right? They didn't know they thought the, you know, the four chains from the dark web. You know what I mean? Like they didn't get it. They didn't understand any of this stuff. They thought they were, like, hacking into some kind of secret database when they would go to 4 Chan.
02:54:17 They could even figure that out.
02:54:19 And they they, they it's all very.
02:54:25 You know Q Anon was was all very passive too. They were being told how to interpret cryptic.
02:54:31 Posts.
02:54:33 And they just lapped it up like they would the nightly news when they watched it on television. And in fact, they probably wouldn't even have made that transition had King Boomer Trump not told them about fake news.
02:54:48 They trusted in in the news 100% until like if any I I guess if there's one thing that you could say was uniquely Trump.
02:54:56 That I wouldn't attribute to.
02:54:59 Anything else really is directly. Certainly is that Trump destroyed faith.
02:55:08 In media, the very wrong media had it coming and.
02:55:14 He was in the right place at the right time and or WikiLeaks helped that along as well. But Trump, I would give credit for really kind of.
02:55:24 Thumping media right in the deck when it came to boomers. Acceptance of whatever they saw on TV.
02:55:37 The Shogun.
02:55:39 Says I appear to have $9 more.
02:55:42 Dollars in my account, you'll be pleased to know that about 1/3 take.
02:55:48 Wait, what?
02:55:50 I appear to have $9 more dollars in my account. You'll be pleased to know that the 1/3 take the info to heart.
02:56:00 Out of all the boomers?
02:56:03 General White customer base. I've read pill via you're. Oh, you're talking about the USB. I'm not sure what you mean by the $9 thing, but.
02:56:14 Yeah. If the look at the USB stick thing is working on boomers, that's great.
02:56:19 Well, I I hope that there's boomers in the audience to some degree, right?
02:56:25 Mass graven image says Devon Rumble blocked every time using rope flat hour.
02:56:33 Or rate flat hour.
02:56:35 The police language on the chance.
02:56:39 Oh oh, I you can't say rape. OK, well, that's weird.
02:56:45 Well, there you go. Rumble is, you know, the big free speech platform right now. Don't worry. Hopefully my hope is we can get back into Odyssey.
02:56:50 Well.
02:56:57 You know, we'll we'll see and entropy they have like their own little chat thing. I've never actually used it, but that's not censored at all. So assuming I can get it to work.
02:57:10 And last but not least, we got Shogun.
02:57:14 Says and I work at a truck stop. So I meet a shit ton of people. I've even red Pilled many a nig they often take to the info better than our white brothers. That's actually a weekly black pill for me.
02:57:28 Yeah, you know, it depends on what you're talking to them about, but black people.
02:57:35 Were not on the receiving end of of the boomer.
02:57:39 Propaganda. Look, and there's some blacks that get it. There are some blacks that get it.
02:57:46 Rural blacks usually kind of get it.
02:57:49 Bissinger says Rumble is compromised. It doesn't matter where we go, we will be hounded and forced into submission, and I don't know, we will never be forced into submission. I don't agree with that. We will be hounded, but we will not be forced in the submission. We will win. It's just going to be a long bloody fight.
02:58:09 So.
02:58:11 Anyway, I'm not calling tonight. Guys. Thanks for hanging out here. We're back on Saturday and hopefully you know, same same bat time, same bat channel. Hopefully we'll have entropy or something working or maybe Odyssey will give me a surprise e-mail saying, oh, we got it straight out. But even if they do that, it's, you know, dead in.
02:58:29 The water in a couple weeks anyway, so it doesn't really.
02:58:31 I don't really think it's worth it. I mean, it'd be nice, I guess, but you know, it doesn't really matter, I guess either. So anyway, hope you guys have a good evening.
02:58:43 In the meantime, for BlackPilled, I am of course.
02:58:48 Devon Stack.
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02:58:53 There's a certain character in Munich who can make a monkey out of Bo Bromo. Hans is a pampered pet who has a wardrobe that includes everything from lounging pajamas to white tie and tails. Hands as impeccable table manners too. And when the family sits down to dinner.
02:59:09 Well, sometimes he can't hold his tongue.
02:59:18 Hans doesn't take kindly to office routine and he rarely pauses around here than Simeon Chatterbox would rather be out than doing. And there's nothing he likes better than a spin in the country perched in his own little Rumble seat and gives plenty of smiles.
02:59:32 The gala.