INSOMNIA STREAM： CROP CIRCLES EDITION

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00:08:01 Welcome to the insomnia stream crop circles edition. I'm your host, of course. Devon Stack, hope you guys are all enjoying your November. Whatever happened to no not November. Is that like not a thing anymore? Did people finally stop watching porn enough to where we don't need to have a month to tell people just for this month, for the love of God, can you just not for a month, not look at porn?
00:08:48 That's a good thing, I guess,
00:08:49 if we've, if we no longer have to do that, I don't know, or maybe I could have gone the other way too. People are just like, Yeah, fuck it. I can't even go a month, I don't know, but I haven't heard anyone talk about that that used to be like a thing.
00:09:07 It was a little weird that it was a thing, but it used to be a thing. Lots of things are weird these days. Lots of things are weird these days. Things are getting weird out there, huh? So for those of you wondering, I had like, a couple people message me and say that there was a big crash out, a big crash out
00:09:30 about me, and I haven't seen it. I can't talk about it. I can't talk about I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. So, you know, I'm reserving, reserving my judgment until I see it, at least partially because I just don't fucking care. You know, I just kind of don't care. I've never been a drama guy, although,
00:09:59 hmm. Hmm,
00:10:06 Hmm, I'll tell you what, maybe after maybe, maybe towards the end of the stream,
00:10:15 there is a piece, there is a piece of this, this dramatic, this very dramatic story that people don't know about. It's not that juicy of a piece, but it is a missing context piece.
00:10:30 We might, might introduce some evidence. Might introduce some evidence at the end. I don't know. I might. I might bring the evidence to the judge and say, Is this admissible?
00:10:42 And we might, we might have to admit it into evidence. I don't know. I don't know, but as I said, I kind of just don't give a fuck. I kind of just don't give a fuck. So we're just gonna do a stream about crop circles. There's no hidden meaning. It actually is going to be about crops or, kind of, well, I mean, sort of about crop circles. I know there's people out there, like, what does he mean by that?
00:11:07 What does he mean by crop circles is that, like, you know, like signs, you know, like, that's about crop circles. Or rather, I mean it well, it is about crop circles. But what got me thinking about it was, I mentioned, I think, a couple streams ago that I was listening to old Art Bell episodes, and it was stunning to me, some of the stuff that people just kind of took for for granted. Yeah, it wasn't super long.
00:11:37 It was like the 90s. You know, not a lot of people had the internet at this point. It existed, but it was like AOL and CompuServe and, you know, most people didn't have it. It was, it was pretty limited, and so there was a lot of, trust me, bro, shit going on.
00:11:52 In fact, if you went on the internet, you you think, think it's bad now, with Miss info and AI and all that stuff, it's just as bad back then, it was just different, because it was just a bunch of, like, it was, it was, trust me, bro, on the internet is what it was. It was people like, I'm, I'm a secret. It was like, you think qanon is bad? Like, there was, like, entire websites of Q anon type stuff, you know?
00:12:14 And so, yeah, room, yeah, rumors on the internet would always grow out of control. And people thought that, well, but this it's but it's on the computer. If it's on the computer, it has to be true. There's no way people would log on the computer. So, in fact, I guess in many ways, it was even worse. Like, you know, this was the heyday of the Nigerian Princess scams, right?
00:12:39 Well, I don't know. Like, no one would just email me saying that they're the prince of some weird country I've never heard of, and yet I need to give them $30,000 of my money, because they'll give me gold or something. People were falling for that like crazy, because that never occurred to them. You know, high trust, I guess part of it's high trust, high trust. But here's the other thing, we talk a lot about whites being high trust and kind of being gullible, and that's kind of what we're gonna talk about tonight.
00:13:12 But we're also kind of, there are those among us. It's not just the Jews that are tricky, that like to play tricks. They get dupers Delight. It's not, it's not just the Jews that just delight in in fooling people for the sake of fooling them. That's been a white person tradition for a long time, doing hoaxes just to, just to fuck with people.
00:13:39 And we're gonna kind of talk about that a little bit tonight, little bit tonight, because just like Art Bell, when he would do these radio shows talking about, like, you know, some guy would call up and say, I've got a dead Big Foot in my freezer. And people would be like, holy shit, dude's got a he's got a big foot, and he's got that Bigfoot, they would believe it.
00:14:02 There was, there was, I don't know what it was about the 90s in addition to and maybe it was because our Bell became very successful. Or maybe he was another symptom of this problem. I think part of it had to do with the fact that this was kind of when people were, were losing their religion, you know, and they were just they didn't know what to believe.
00:14:24 You know, the boomers weren't exactly carrying on the the religious traditions that they grew up with with their children. And people still had, like this need for something supernatural, something weird and and, you know, intangible, that would maybe give the universe meaning, and they would look in some really kind of stupid places for that. But there was this big push about aliens.
00:14:51 You know, there's lots of alien shows, and we've already talked about episodes of The Outer Limits, you know, that touched on weird alien themes. There was the other show that other time traveling. You show that we talked about, you know, Stargate, stuff like that was big. You had a whole network, in fact, that was born because of this, the Sci Fi network.
00:15:10 You had that show with, with Commander Riker on, I remember what it's called anymore, where it's just like, Oh, here's, here's this creepy story that? Was it fact, or is it fiction? They had the Alien Autopsy. That was really big Alien Autopsy. And, look, everyone thought it was real. What was it like? Fox. Fox bought it from, like, some scammy Jew or something.
00:15:35 It was like, hey, look, we got video of an Alien Autopsy, and we're going to air it. It was, it was hyped up for weeks, and people tuned in to watch the, the Whoa, the authentic, the authentic footage of an Alien Autopsy. And they had, they had expert after expert coming on.
00:15:54 You know, they brought in people from, like, Jim Henson's monster factory, or whatever it's called, and, like, Disney or something. They're like, Oh, no, we couldn't even do that with our best guys. I mean, you look at it now, it's just like, that's obviously fake.
00:16:02 But people thought it was real. People thought it was really, yeah, that the face on Mars, right? It was like, oh, there's a face on Mars. For some reason there was also a lot of Egyptian shit, right? Like the face on Mars and Egyptian face on Mars. Stargate, of course, you know it's, ah, it's a time traveling pyramid goes across the universe, space, space, Egyptians. That was a big thing. Another big thing was, was crop circles.
00:16:38 Ah, yes, crop circles.
00:16:42 All of the sudden, they made national news, partially because Unsolved Mysteries did an episode, I think, in 1990 very early, if not very early 90s, where they brought the world of crop circles to Americans. It was previously, I should probably fix that, huh?
00:17:04 Let's There we go. It was previously an English phenomenon, if you want to call it that, but Unsolved Mysteries covered it, and it became worldwide. All of a sudden, everyone was, like intrigued by all these strange symbols. Middle of the night, no one knows how it's happening, appearing
00:17:34 in these English corn fields
00:17:40 today, near England's ancient monolith at Stonehenge, an extraordinary phenomenon is occurring that defies all explanation. Bizarre, perfectly formed circles are appearing overnight in scores of wheat fields across the country. Experts have no idea how they have been formed, only that they seem to have no human or natural origin, who or what is responsible for their creation.
00:18:22 You you Oh, yes, whatever happened to shows like this? High production value, they actually shot it on film whenever possible. We use the people involved instead of actors always like this kind of as a result, you know, this kind of real cheesy acting, high production value, though, they shot it on film, transferred it to video. Look pretty good, you know, well, you know,
00:19:08 for the time, high budget. And look they they would, they would, they would put these things like, you know,
00:19:18 crop circles in with real mystery stories, right? Like, Oh, yeah. Like, not, not exactly like America's Most Wanted, but kind of like that, you know, like, we're looking for this murderer. You know, it wasn't like a made up story. It was like an actual murderer. Like they were looking for a guy that was that really was murdering. They'd show you, like, his mug shot. He had a hotline you could call up missing person. Like, Oh, you were supposed to believe that, oh, this is, I mean, it's, it's like, maybe a little, you know, creepy mystery news, but it's, it's, you know, it's news, you know, this is, there's some journalistic integrity involved here, right? And so when they would cover things like crop circles, they would mix that in with all the other, ooh, you know, like. Like, this person got kidnapped, or there's a missing treasure in these mountains. Oh, and crop circles are made by aliens. You were kind of like, Oh, wow.
00:20:10 This alien thing is maybe a little more legit than I was initially thinking. You
00:20:27 Stonehenge, the great megalithic monument in southern England. Stonehenge is only one of hundreds of such monuments scattered throughout Britain. For centuries. These puzzling formations have baffled scientists and laymen alike, but recently, scientists have identified another phenomenon that may relate to the mysterious British monuments, wheat circles.
00:20:47 Ah, yes, wheat circles, actually, they look like this. It's kind of funny too, because people think crop circles. And they think about, you know, the movies that have crop circles in them. And they think of them as these great, intricate designs that were appearing in these wheat fields, when that's not the case.
00:21:13 They were actually quite primitive. And like this one, this is one of the ones that, before it became a, a worldwide sensation. This was, this is what, this was a crop circle. In fact, they didn't really have a name yet, like he called it a wheat circle, I think, right. But then, I guess, because it was only happening in wheat fields. So until, like, you know, expanded, expanded off into to new things. I forgot to put a clip in.
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00:21:56 was gonna have a button that did this, and now we're not gonna have we're not gonna have the button I was gonna have the button that did this crap circles, not on my button. Damn it. Damn that's a good one too, crop circles.
00:22:16 Anyway, so we got crop circles. And everyone's kind of convinced that, you know, like, Ah, they're like, these crazy things. No, they're like that, just like a circle. It was literally like a circle. They didn't really get very complicated the first ones, when they were, you know, when they released this, this Unsolved Mysteries. So of course, they need to go investigate, like, what's going on with these circles? These English farmers are finding circles in their fields.
00:22:48 Charity down a farm two hours drive from London, England in the early morning hours of June 15, 1988, 37 year old farmer Chris Wood slowly drove a tractor through one of his wheat fields just after sunrise, he saw something in the field that he had never seen before. He couldn't explain it, a huge circle had appeared in the wheat. It's
00:23:16 really, really amazing how the actual crop was laying on the ground, and it was so, so perfect, really,
00:23:26 yeah, it looks perfect to me, doesn't it? Wow. It's like, it's like, perfect. It's not that perfect. Actually, doesn't look that perfect. If I saw that, I'd be like, who did this? I wouldn't think, Oh, it was Aliens. I'd be like, Oh, weird. Why would someone do this? Okay, whatever, I guess. And then I'd keep doing my or I'd complain. I'm actually complain, if it ruined the crops.
00:23:52 The circle Chris Wood found that morning has never been explained. During the last 12 years, more than 750 large, perfectly symmetrical circles, some of them as big as big as 100 yards in diameter, have formed overnight in seemingly random fields of wheat, corn and other crops. The question no one can answer is, how did the circles get there?
00:24:20 How indeed, what? Circles,
00:24:26 again, they're not. I mean, they're not. I mean, that's pretty sloppy.
00:24:31 That's not, that's not like the fanciest circle I've ever seen. In fact, my first thought, if I saw that wouldn't be, oh, that was done by some kind of machinery, some kind of high tech, super advanced robotic machinery, or something from space. I'd be like, if you're gonna fuck up my field, man, at least do a little little bit of her job. I don't know. The first
00:24:53 circle I found was in 1985 August the third at about seven o'clock in the evening. It was on. Last sort of flight of the night, and we were flying around, and as the aircraft banked around to the right, I looked into the wing tip, and there below me was this beautiful quintuplet set a large circle with four smaller ones around it. I marveled at this site, and I questioned myself, then, what on earth did that we
00:25:19 were harvesting? It was the last day of harvest. We went over the combines in the morning to cut our last field, and we come across this circle. There was no real damage, as such. The corn was flattened down. It was just odd, strange. I
00:25:42 Well, I've been here since October 1957 and the first circles we saw were, I would say, 7273 that was a small circle, about four yards across. And then we saw another one the following year, about the same size. And as the years have gone on, we've seen them 12 yards across, with the small ones either side of them,
00:26:09 they vary in diameter. The smallest we've had would be about five meters. I am not
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00:26:16 The largest would be, I suppose 15 perhaps. They have a neat, perfect pattern from a center where it's flattened, the edges are very distinct.
00:26:28 The most wonderful thing about it, horse
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00:26:39 is when you actually go out the night before to look for a circle, and there's nothing there. It's just a lovely field of growing corn. And then the following morning, when you get up early in the morning, in the first light of day, and suddenly there is the circle. You just can't believe it. Yeah.
00:26:56 Looks pretty sweet. Looks awesome. Took incredible.
00:27:05 The circles are never cut. They are pressed down in a swirling pattern that runs both clockwise and counterclockwise. The crop is not damaged. It continues to grow and can be harvested normally. Strangely, no unusual footprints or tire tracks leading up to the circles have ever been found. Some circles occur with a smaller satellite circle. Others appear in groups of three or four, intricate, symmetrical patterns like this one have five small circles arranged around the larger one in a cross pattern
00:27:36 that's so complicated, I just feel like it's something that humans could never really
00:27:40 fathom, like quarks or black Republicans.
00:27:43 Yeah, it's, it's so, so intricate. You know, I don't know how anyone could ever create that,
00:27:53 like a circle with with other circles around it that are not, not exactly super in line with each other. Little bit off, little bit off, but go on.
00:28:06 Other circles are surrounded by concentric rings. Most amazing of all are the circles with both satellites and rings.
00:28:17 We've got a flare here, a radial flare here, and of course, it by moving the access. You've got the opposite coming in from the other end.
00:28:25 Yes, science, that's right.
00:28:27 And that seems to be the heart of all these spirals. Whether it's
00:28:34 Ruby designs, super designs, you make them all with the world famous spirogram, or the deluxe super spiral grant.
00:28:46 It's clearly from a highly advanced civilization.
00:28:50 Clearly, clearly, there's no possible way people could be making this. But see, here's the thing,
00:28:56 isn't it interesting that as soon as you have something that most people would look at and say, Oh, that's weird. It's weird that someone would do that. Imagination land kicks in with white people.
00:29:12 It looks this is it's a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing and a curse. In the absence of information, white people start cooking up all kinds of fantasies in their head about what could be. And look, they they're very scientific about it too. They're, oh, they're not just coming up with crackpot theories. Look, he's using a computer.
00:29:37 He's using a computer. Back when that now that's very high tech. He's like, you see is, as you can see with my computer, it's like a Spirograph. Oh, that's, it's very crazy. Except for, you know, again, at the time, they weren't like a Spirograph. They were just, there was like, circles, yeah, that's why they were called circles, yeah, not, not a crop design.
00:30:00 They were called crop circles because it was literally just circles, and because the white man's in, you know, imagination kicks in. You start getting all these insane theories, insane theories about what it might be, it can't possibly be. There's just some guys going out and doing this.
00:30:20 It's, it must be, I don't know, maybe it's aliens, probably aliens, you know, if I had to guess, probably aliens. But it could be any number of things, but definitely not just some guy doing this that we're that's now wasting all of our time.
00:30:36 Pat Delgado, an electro mechanical design engineer, has written a book about the circles, along with Colin Andrews, the two men have spent over a decade studying the phenomenon. Ah,
00:30:47 now it's beginning to show the
00:30:49 number of circles are increasing dramatically. We were receiving reports in the order of two or three a year in the late 70s, 1011, 1215, or so in the early 80s. Then last year, we saw a dramatic increase, 98 circles in five months of last summer. This year, we have now got in southern England, 270 formations. Looks like a penis. I mean,
00:31:22 it literally looks like a dick and balls like that. That didn't like clue you in, like they're making a dick and balls. The aliens are they're making a dick and balls. What do they mean by this? What do they mean by this?
00:31:39 And we have fields in which we don't have five or six but 28 of these circles have appeared in a period of four or five weeks. They occur in all weather conditions. We have found no correlation in meteorological data at all. Yes, science to connect them with any particular meteorological, weather condition or weather phenomenon.
00:32:07 We have invited many professional scientists of various disciplines to help us in this investigation, and quite rightly so, they start off with considering that it could be a hoax.
00:32:21 You think,
00:32:23 hey, what's more likely? Huh? Aliens came down from the sky, maybe,
00:32:29 just maybe it's a hoax.
00:32:34 I like how they open with that, though it's like, oh, we talked to scientists and, like, the first thing they say is, it's a hoax.
00:32:44 Okay, so after talking, because here's the thing, they try to make it sound like he's this expert in, I don't know, wheat field ology, but he's a mechanical engineer. He's a designer of electromechanical equipment, which,
00:33:06 I mean, you have to be kind of smart right to be able to do that. But that's a that's a discipline that's miles away from anything that would involve crop circles. It means you can design, maybe, I don't know, like, a, like, a tire jack or something like that, you know, like, who knows what he's designing?
00:33:24 Maybe he's designing some kind of machine that makes Cheerios, like, but it's a machine, right? And, but they, Oh, he's an engineer. He's clearly an expert. Didn't, you know? And when he, when he talks to scientists who are probably, actually, maybe, you know, I guess there's no such thing as a crop circle. Well, not yet. They turn it into a discipline, believe it or not,
00:33:50 they called it a, I'm not even kidding. It's not circleology, but it's, I forget what it's called, but it's, it's like, that bad. It's that bad. It became, it literally became a discipline that people were studying.
00:34:04 Lots of books were written about it, lots of in fact, that guy wrote Delgado, whatever his name is, he was writing books about it, and they made a journal, like a scientific journal, that would go around and study the crop circles, they would take readings and measurements trying to crack the code of of what was going on with these crop circles.
00:34:29 Because obviously, wasn't a hoax, even though these, these other scientific peers of his, that was the first thing out of their mouth was it's probably, it's probably just some guys doing it.
00:34:43 One of the scientists, respected astronomer, Dr Archibald Roy of Glasgow University in Scotland, began studying the circles in 1980
00:34:53 no one really knows why these circles are appearing. And I think that the interesting thing is that no one. And theory so far, seems to fit the bill. There are quite a number of them. There is the frankly unacceptable, one of circles being formed by hundreds of hedgehogs all marching around in circles. You actually said that. Another one is that they are the footpad marks of flying saucers. Well, it's pretty unusual, but go on another is that they are due to the downdrafts of helicopters, probably not, or that they are caused by whirlwinds that doesn't make sense of that they are hoaxes by human beings.
00:35:40 Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding,
00:35:42 Oh, thank God. Well, finally, we got this guy
00:35:46 who's gonna come in and say, Well, it's obviously not the hedgehog. I can't really know why I mentioned that the hedgehog thing, it's it's obviously not the helicopter thing. That doesn't make any sense. You know, whirlwinds, you know, it's that's kind of dumb. But you know, hoaxes, you know, it could be people, it could be people doing it right? And so he's gonna, I'm sure he's gonna set him straight and be like, All right, guys, I'm sorry,
00:36:17 as fanciful as you would like the world to be, as much as white people would like to believe in magic and superstition and some kind of like crazy, wild thing that explains something relatively mundane.
00:36:33 You know, it's probably just some guys making these things.
00:36:40 There are so many of them, I think that it's very reasonable for a person to say, Look, these are hoaxes. Because they look so artificial.
00:36:49 I was starting to think I was crazy.
00:36:51 But I don't think that the hoax theory can be held very strongly. No, God.
00:36:59 No, God. Please no, no, no,
00:37:05 because there are so many of these circles now, in eight or nine years, logged about 702 50 this year, this summer alone. The amount of time that have to be spent by a very big team of people making those circles is getting quite enormous. I simply don't see the hoax theory as a very strong contender.
00:37:27 You are so close, so close, so close. I just can't understand how it could be a hoax, because there's lots of them, okay?
00:37:42 But it clearly it only takes one night to do it tops. I mean that maximum, because they're not there one day and they're there the next day. It's not like you find when it's halfway done and then like it keeps getting made. It's It's either there or it's not there. So clearly, to create it. It takes one night.
00:38:03 And so if there's hundreds over a period of a couple of years, like half a decade, that actually makes sense. It's, it's, I guess, a little impressive, that someone's really kind of sticking, sticking to the the fun of doing it. But, you know, not that, not that crazy, actually, not that crazy at all.
00:38:26 Had so much hope for that guy. He said he seemed smart. I don't know if it's the English accent that's throwing me, but he seems smarter than that.
00:38:35 As part of a televised experiment, British military personnel attempted to create an artificial crop circle.
00:38:42 In all instances where something mechanical is used to flatten the crop, you will damage it, and we can walk into a circle and very, very quickly determine whether it's hoaxed, that is mechanically made or it is a naturally created one, you seem pretty sure about that.
00:39:05 Yeah, he can tell, he can tell when they're when they're hoaxed, or when they're genuine crop circles. So it's funny, because they have people go in there and they're able to duplicate it. Sometimes they say there's inconsistencies, but they they already know it's not like a blind study.
00:39:24 It's not like they're going to a field where they crop circle that hasn't been shown to them yet, is and then they have people duplicate it, and then have them say, All right, well, Which one, which one is the real one and which one's the fake one. Instead, they just, they make a fake one in front of them and say, like, can you tell it's fake? He's like, Well, of course,
00:39:48 because I watched them do it.
00:39:52 When we examine a naturally made circle, the portion of plant that just comes out of the ground must be seen. Softened, bent over and then hardened up again. So not only is a mystery in the circle itself, but what is it that is softening the plant, bending it over and then hardening up again? This is a real mystery.
00:40:16 Some say it's a job for Sherlock knows. Ah, yes, that's his theory, is that there's some kind of phenomenon that goes in and softens, whatever that means, you know, let's not, let's not try to get too technical there. We'll just say softens the stock of the the wheat, or whatever the crop is, and then, and then it just magically, I guess, falls over in this swirl pattern, and then it hardens up again.
00:40:43 It can't possibly be if anyone who's ever raised plants, or even if you just pulled weeds before you know that if you bend a stalk over that it will, it'll, it'll stay alive. It'll harden up a little bit after you bend it over. So anyway,
00:41:05 if the circles are not a hoax, it's a hoax. What is creating? Several theories have been put forward and discarded. There is no evidence of a fungus or other natural, organic cause. It's a hoax. Aerial infrared photography has shown that there are no underground formations, neither sink holes, nor rocks nor foundations of ancient buildings that might create the patterns. It's fake.
00:41:29 Some scientists have theorized that whirlwind vortexes might create the circles, but other scientists, as well as farmers, believe that whirlwinds could not create such neat, punched out shapes. Could make that regardless of what causes a circle they all seem to form overnight, late at night, their appearance is often linked, after the fact, to sightings of bright lights in the night sky. One such sighting occurred on July 6, 1985 when Pat and Jack Collins were driving through a stretch of farmland near stone edge.
00:42:06 This better be good. We've been out for the evening, and on our way back, about 11 o'clock at night, we saw this circle with lights all the way around the edge.
00:42:21 He said, Cool. Look at that. Oh blimey.
00:42:32 Hello, hello. I'm calling in regards to the ad I read in the paper. For the past 15 years, I have worked for the Smythe family of elborn England. I did house cleaning, cooking, and took care of their four glorious children.
00:42:52 Would you mind coming on an interview? Say, Monday night at 730
00:42:56 Oh, I'd love to dear. Oh, I look forward to me, ta, to show
00:43:05 time. Bottom line, I need to be with Joey, and I'll do anything to do that.
00:43:17 Listen, I would do anything. I just want to be with him. No, I need that, so please, dad gets away from me.
00:43:25 These must be the cherubs. Mommy to try. We love each other. We love each other. Remind me of someone really who
00:44:01 Oh, my God.
00:44:13 So I said, whatever can it be? And so we said, it couldn't be, you know, a flying saucer or anything, because, well, not knowing what one would look like. But I mean, that was, you know, our our feelings that it could have been one.
00:44:35 Colin Andrews believes that the colored lights, Jack and Pat saw in the night sky were related to two different sets of crop circles.
00:44:43 Of course, he does the same night as they saw this extraordinary clustering of lights over that site, a quintuplet set appeared in a field just a few miles to the east near alsford, and the same kind of formation was found just a. Few days later in a very remote spot south of Andover, and the alignment of those two sites took us directly over the top of the Collins's particular sighting.
00:45:11 Yes, science,
00:45:12 you see the lengths at which people will go to try to justify their fantasy look.
00:45:22 We found a crop circle over here and a crop circle over there, and then Mrs. Doubtfire and her husband thought they saw some lights in the sky over here. Aliens. Definitely alien. Aliens, confirmed.
00:45:41 Now I can't no other explanation makes sense. We've done the science. We've done the research. Clearly, as you can see by looking at this diagram here, I mean, we made a diagram. Would we make a diagram? Unless? Unless aliens,
00:46:03 so aliens are clearly to blame for the crop circles.
00:46:07 Having said that we haven't actually seen one of these this year, in
00:46:12 an attempt to find out how, in fact, a crop circle does form, 50 British scientists convened last summer for a surveillance operation.
00:46:21 We have been told so many times that all these circles are hoaxes by smart people, and so all we had to do was to find one circle created in circumstances where no human beings were around to disprove that theory. And so we set up a watch with electronic equipment, video cameras, light intensification and so on for eight days and nights on a field where circles had appeared most years out of the past eight or nine, and we hoped that a circle would appear under those circumstances. It didn't.
00:46:54 That's because you were watching it didn't
00:46:56 want to get caught on the security camera.
00:46:59 And the fascinating thing to me is that during the eight days of the watch on that field, not only did no circle appear in that field, but as far as we know, no circles appeared elsewhere in the south of England. That is fascinating.
00:47:14 Yeah, maybe because people knew you were doing that,
00:47:19 they knew you were doing that. Maybe they weren't 100% sure where you were, so the hoaxers decided not to make any rather than get caught, unless, unless, I guess, are you implying that the aliens knew that you were going to be there? And so they decided not to make crop circles while you were there. They didn't seem to care, like all the other nights, with cars driving around Mrs. Doubtfire looking out her window, they didn't give a shit about those nights.
00:47:48 But the night that you are doing this, this real comprehensive study that the you've told the entire community about, that you're doing,
00:47:57 then suddenly there, oh no, crop circles. Weird. Weird. Now that everyone knows that you're looking for what's doing the crop circles, none of them appear.
00:48:09 Hmm, probably telepathy. I'm guessing the aliens were communicating telepathically with you,
00:48:18 although the 91 had appeared before the watch was set up, and since the watch has been set up, something like 150 have appeared. I think it's almost certain that whatever is creating the circles was aware of the watch.
00:48:35 How are you not getting this? Yes, obviously, yes. Whatever, whatever was creating the crop circles, was clearly aware of the watch. So I guess now, okay, is this? This must be. This is what it's like, by the way, being, being me, okay, this is what it's it's not just crop circles.
00:48:57 It's not just crop circles. There's lots of things. There's lots of things that happen.
00:49:05 And for me, it's like, I'm it's like, I'm watching a bunch of fucking Lemmings, a bunch of fucking Lemmings, and I try to explain to them. No, no, dude, you're being tricked. No. Look a graph, a graph with a penis on it. I'm not being tricked. They made a graph, okay, but it just, you know, the funny thing, like I said, when this aired, people took it seriously. I don't know. I just mean, like stupid kids, grown ups took this seriously serious. People took this seriously.
00:49:47 Apparently, electric electrical or electro mechanical engineers took it seriously. And this guy, I think, is an astronomer or something, this guy here,
00:49:56 people were taking it seriously. You.
00:50:01 Now, looking back, a lot of it looks really fucking stupid. But here's the thing, in 20 years, I want you to think about things in your environment right now
00:50:12 and realize that one of those things that a lot of people believe in, that think is like real, maybe even supernatural. Then, in
00:50:24 20 years, people are going to look back at that and be like those fucking idiots, those fucking idiots. How did they not understand they were being tricked?
00:50:37 How do they not understand they were just they were being tricked by people who thought it was funny,
00:50:47 because there's at least something, there's at least something right now in your environment that that fits that description,
00:50:54 you might be getting tricked.
00:50:57 You might think, Oh, I've got all this evidence, got all these penis graphs and everything. And like, you know, it all makes sense to me.
00:51:06 How, how are they gonna look at Candace Owens in 2030, years? Holy shit. You know, Devon Stack Jr is just gonna, that's all he's gonna have to do is, is download old streams of Candace Owens. Be like she thought. She thought the the president of France was married to her debt his dad, who was the tranny, and that Mormon beekeepers used a cell phone gun to shoot Charlie Kirk, ah, 2030, years.
00:51:46 And that's the shit thing. The shit thing is, if you're not tricked by this stuff, the people who get tricked by this stuff, that's what it takes. It takes 20 or 30 fucking years for them to realize they've been tricked. And then the meantime, they treat you like you're the asshole. You're the asshole.
00:52:09 Look at it. Take 23rd look. They're still cuteards. They're still fucking cuteards. X x.
00:52:20 22 report, I almost forgot they existed. Academic agent added me today on Twitter, mentioning him. I go, I go to his fucking rumble page. That son of a bitch. For those who don't know x 22 report, is he's basically like the Q anon guru. He's the guy that interprets, well, I don't know, I guess Q and I's not posting more, so I don't even know what he could possibly have to talk about anymore, but either he just keeps reinterpreting old Q anon posts and then try, I imagine that's really what it is, and then he tries to make it fit with whatever the hell is going on with Trump. And people believe it.
00:53:08 I don't be. I know people in real life that believe it,
00:53:13 that actually believe that listen to his show and think that he's a role. And look, it's funny, because motherfucker gets 120 something 1000 views. When I look the video that his last his last video had been up for eight hours on rumble and had 128,000 views, I think, and he has 800,000 subscribers. I hmm,
00:53:43 which must make him, right, I guess, right, because that's, that's apparently all, all the that's the qualification for gripers These days, right? Oh, if you have a lot of followers that, then, then you're worth listening to. Okay, well, go listen to x 22 report, you fucking retard. He's got, he's got lots of followers,
00:54:04 he's got lots of motion, if you will. But, yeah, but that motherfucker is still around. He's still around posting these fucking videos. And they all get, I think, by, you know, after, like, that was eight hours, I think they all get close to, maybe not half a million views, but probably, like, a quarter of a million views a million views a piece.
00:54:24 He's one of the, he's one of the biggest accounts on rumble,
00:54:30 which is fascinating to me, but it's, it's true. There's that many people still, still
00:54:36 still believing in Q anon.
00:54:41 Now, apparently there's a mini revolt going on. Thank God. Well, I don't know, like, it's the reason why I got added on Twitter was apparently some, some of the comments, maybe we should look, I haven't looked at the comments. Some of the comments are apparently starting to wonder. Like, if you know. Since Q anon stated that Israel would be safe for last, it's like, Well, is it? Is it happening yet? It seems like Trump keeps, keeps just doing whatever they want.
00:55:09 Like, even the qtards are kind of, kind of going, oh no man, let's see a little if they're being saved for last. Like, what is it? What is the last? Like, last, what this seems to be taking a long time.
00:55:24 This project, is this something that like JD Vance is gonna have to, like, take over the Q anon project? This isn't looking good. It's not looking good, by the way, these the guys that legit believe that Biden wasn't really president when he was president, that Trump was secretly president, and Biden was some guy in a suit or a robot. I'm not. I'm not. This isn't just this is what some of these people believe, and that the entire purpose of the Biden administration was to show how bad Democrats were, and that, you know, Hillary was actually arrested and like, that's why you don't see her in the news anymore. It can't be because she's just not very relevant anymore, because she's at Guantanamo Bay and like this, this is what they believe.
00:56:11 There's a sizable amount. This is what you're up against, by the way, even you know, for those of you looking for a political solution, you're up against the fact that you've got a sizable amount of voters. They're not all boomers, they're not all boomers, lot a lot of Gen Xers. I had a guy now, I don't know if he's still a qtard, but this was a couple years back. I had an Uber driver taking me to the airport, and he was like, have you heard Have you heard of this Q anon thing? Oh, my God. Oh my God. And he wasn't that old. He was, he was probably, like, maybe, maybe late 30s.
00:56:53 He believed it. Of course, he's a Uber, if you're an Uber driver in your late 30s, you know, maybe life's not working out for you. So, you know. But still, these people exist, and they vote, and their vote counts just as much as yours.
00:57:11 So just think about that. Think about what, what are people in 2030, years going to look back at like, what? What things that people with all of their soul believed in, believed was going to happen, believed was inevitable, and they're
00:57:29 going to be like those fucking retards.
00:57:33 Those fucking retards
00:57:40 must be some, and that means that there must be some sort of intelligence at work. So that would mean, and of course, then you say, Well, what is it? And I haven't the faintest idea. Oh, God,
00:58:00 no, God, please. No, no, no,
00:58:06 that's a terrible noise. Just as you stand in the center, you're getting a noise here. Very, very bad, yeah,
00:58:12 although no crop circles formed, the project did produce one significant finding,
00:58:20 and going as you move. Well, what happened was that Pat and myself were being interviewed in the largest circle we'd ever seen when the sound man detected an electronic warbling noise which came onto the sound
00:58:34 equipment. I know what it did. I could feel it around the edge
00:58:38 and Pat, who was stood just off of the center of the formation inside the circle, could actually physically feel an energy field right alongside it.
00:58:52 You can feel the energy field, guys, there's this 1990s sound equipment, analog.
00:59:03 Sound equipment that is so bad, by the way, sound equipment was so bad they used it for so many paranormal things that prove, like the existence of, you know, prove and scare quotes. It's just man people that were just didn't know, understand technology, using technology. This is why you got to understand how things work. Man, understand how things work, or you just end up like, oh, this magic box that records voices. It has this weird sound in it. It's probably a ghost.
00:59:35 It's probably a ghost, or it's this energy field.
00:59:38 But isn't that interesting how like look? You could debate whether or not this guy actually thinks he's feeling an energy field
00:59:49 or he's just handing it up for the camera because he sells books or whatever. But I would submit to you, he's actually kind of experiencing a bit of a hallucination. I. Like a tactile hallucination, or whatever you would call it.
01:00:06 All you had to do was plant. In fact, I bet had had the not act, the sound guy not actually heard a noise, if he had just said that he did, if he had just planted that suggestion that, oh, there's something weird. There's something weird I'm picking up. It's some kind of sound.
01:00:24 There's some kind of interference, perhaps, you know, the only thing that could cause that would be maybe some kind of energy, people, you people like, you like the word energy because it's kind of loosey goosey and doesn't really mean anything. So energy, it's some kind of, I'm feeling a bit of energy going in through my headphones, and just by planting that, that that suggestion,
01:00:48 almost like he's hypnotized, he feels, oh, wow, oh my God, I feel the energy field that you're listening to. It's right here. Oh my god, this whole crop circle, it's full of energy field. We finally have evidence. You better. You better keep that tape, because now we have scientific evidence
01:01:16 that crop circles have emit some kind of electromagnetic field that's being picked up by your shotgun microphone. Could possibly be like a XLR cable that's loose, or a, you know, bad tape, or something like that. No, it's definitely, definitely magic. Crop Circle energy field. I can feel it.
01:01:39 I can hear it and I can feel it too. When
01:01:43 he stepped into that energy field, the noise picked right up, and when passed barrier, it diminished here,
01:01:52 not quite now, just a
01:01:53 little bit. It's over here.
01:01:55 It was very extraordinary. It is very significant. We do now have a noise component associated with this extraordinary phenomenon. Are you kidding me? This
01:02:12 extraordinary phenomenon, we now finally have that physical evidence we've been looking for. Think we're gonna go to the psychologist. Could convention this weekend and let them know about our grand groundbreaking research that we discovered
01:02:29 the sounds emitted by a crop circle that can't be heard by human ears, but my aura feels it. My aura feels the energy pulsating in the air.
01:02:43 Logic seems to yield no explanation for the crop circles. Are you quite sure about that? Is it possible a Stonehenge and the other concentric ring monuments scattered across Britain are related to an ancient appearance of the circles?
01:02:56 Oh, here we go again. A lot of the circles appear in the vicinity of the great megalithic monuments of southern England. Now, if these circles have been appearing for, let's say, 5000 years, then they would have been appearing in the wheat fields and corn fields of the megalithic farmers. What would they have made of them? Would they have said, these are signs from the gods, perhaps we should build monuments which mimic these circles, and so they would build things like Stonehenge. It's an intriguing possibility. When I say it out loud, I know that sounds insane, but it's the truth, I swear. And so we badly need to know if these circles have been appearing earlier than, let's say, 10 years ago.
01:03:41 So far, 700 circles have appeared here in a triangle with Stonehenge roughly in the center.
01:03:46 Trump is right outside Illuminati headquarters, about to fulfill the prophecy, but he's under heavy fire and needs assistance.
01:03:55 None of these circles is more than 30 miles from Stonehenge itself, and all of the British circles appear somewhere near a stone ring monument. There has to date, been no photographic evidence of circles occurring outside Britain.
01:04:07 You think it's just a bunch of drunk English guys with planks and rope?
01:04:13 Yeah, weird. You know, here's the funny thing, they never people don't put this together. They weren't found. They weren't found outside of England until this show aired. Then all of a sudden, once people knew about crop circles, Oh, weird, they're popping up all over the place,
01:04:37 I guess, I guess that's, that's what was happening, right? The aliens, they were just waiting to get a little bit of press and then they could spread out, take it International.
01:04:47 We would ask any farmer, any landowner, any member of the public, military or otherwise in America, to report sightings of these extraordinary, grand markings. Back to us. It. Most important, it is most significant.
01:05:02 There's got to be an intelligently manipulated, inexplicable energy used here, and we don't know the first thing about it, but it's there.
01:05:13 I haven't the faintest idea what is causing these circles. I find them a most intriguing and entertaining mystery. If we don't know something, then it means that our model of reality, our model of the world, is inadequate. And so as a scientist, I feel that they should be studied in elucidating what is causing them. We must learn something, if only about the psychology of human beings. For example,
01:05:44 could this shocking incident have been motivated by racism?
01:05:50 It must have been racist crop circles. No.
01:05:56 The funny thing is, he ends with like, it'll tell us something about human psychology. It's like, yeah, it kind of is like, that's, that's, that's the only thing it's telling us. It's telling us that humans really want to believe in this wacky shit,
01:06:10 that in the absence of information, in the absence of expertise, they will use their imagination and fill in the blanks with with kooky shit,
01:06:20 and no matter how many times they're faced with a logical path to the most likely scenario, they will ignore it in favor the more interesting version,
01:06:35 the more interesting version that that instead fulfills some kind of, In this case, I believe some kind of spiritual deficit, where they think that there's some kind of intelligent, intelligent energy at work that's creating these things, and if they study it enough, they'll discover what that intelligent energy is, and somehow that will give them meaning in life. But
01:07:01 again, it's kind of funny, because they weren't very complicated when they first happened. They weren't international when they first happened. They air some TV shows in America and international television about the phenomenon,
01:07:19 and magically, as if
01:07:23 by, you know, as overnight, basically as soon, as soon as this knowledge of this happened, England occurred. Suddenly, they're everywhere.
01:07:32 Since we originally broadcast this story, over 500 new circles have been discovered, not only in English wheat fields, but in crop fields and several other countries, including the United States, in some cases, our formations have grown more elaborate in design,
01:07:48 and that didn't like set off any alarm bells. They
01:07:51 didn't set off any alarm bells. I mean, they include that in the show as like a data point, almost as if to to solidify that, the idea that these are real, like, Oh yeah, it's not just England anymore, since we aired our first show about this, now it's now it's everywhere. Like, that doesn't like,
01:08:11 no one's going huh, oh, so it's definitely fake. Then,
01:08:18 no, of course not. Why? Because that's not magical, and people like to believe in magic. They don't like the boring truth. They want to believe in magic.
01:08:29 And so as they got more complicated, I mean, they didn't really get all that complicated. The funny thing is now that now they are there's actually, well, we'll get to that a second. But in 1991
01:08:42 which I think was like maybe a year after this aired, and we started having these internationally popping up everywhere. Well, this happened.
01:08:59 Good evening. Experts are tonight divided over claims by two men from Hampshire that they're responsible for the South's famous crop circles.
01:09:09 Dave Chorley and Doug Bauer say they created the strange patterns with nothing more than a wooden board and a length of rope. The men decided to reveal their hoax when they heard the government was planning to finance research into the circles. But some scientists remain convinced the circles are not man made. I shall be talking to one such expert in just a moment, but first this report from Graham bowd,
01:09:36 if their story is true, Dave chawley and Doug Bauer are probably the most successful hoaxes of all time. The pair, who both live in Southampton, claim to have made more than 200 corn circles throughout the south of England. According to them, the hoax began as a bit of harmless fun 13 years ago. Since then, the patterns have become more elaborate. Many thought they were made by alien spacecraft. Some. Scientists have devoted their life's work to the search for a natural explanation. Others have written best selling books on the subject. Mr. Chorley and Mr. Bao say everyone was conned, and the newspaper which published their story says it spent a week verifying their claims
01:10:16 for the first three years, nothing happened at all. We realized that we were putting them in fields that the public couldn't see, and we then had to find a slope or or a dip in the in the land that the motorists could see. You see what we decided on the punch bowl that cheese foot head on the Petersfield road. And it was only a few hours before the first reports were coming through about the circle that was found in the punch bowl at cheese foot head.
01:10:40 The men are scornful of the self styled experts who've camped out at known circle sites in the hope of filming the unexplained phenomenon, but
01:10:48 can't understand anybody of that intelligence walking and making something of flattened corn and shapes in cornfields. Quite honestly, had it been us ordinary Layman and gone, I think we'd have sussed it out within a year.
01:11:07 Man, after my own heart, yeah, I mean, you know that's it's kind of amazing, because people kept believing it, by the way. So what they don't explain to you
01:11:21 is they did actually trick the two, two of the guys that they interviewed for unsolved mysteries that wrote the books and everything about crop circles and created like the crop circle Institute or whatever, and, you know, did all this fucking bullshit. He did trick them. They both tricked them. They brought them to a new crop circle, and then, after he was like amazed by it, they said, well, guess what? We made it. We made it last night, and he they took him, they took him to his house, and they showed him pictures of crop circles they had made, and he was convinced for part of a day, when faced with the evidence that it was all a hoax.
01:12:04 But then the next day, he was not convinced. He thought they were liars. There's all kinds of conspiracy theories, even to this day,
01:12:16 these guys were paid by the government to hide the the real source of the of the crop circles, despite the fact that there's, there's crop circling clubs. Now, of people that go out and do this as like an art form,
01:12:35 now that they've got things like GPS that that can assist them in making more intricate designs, you they go out and do the it's like a recreational hobby of people to make crop circles. There's like a website where you can, like, join up and go make crop circles if you want.
01:12:57 And now, of course, and look, it was different in the 90s, but now everyone's got a camera, right? You'd think that with with everyone having a camera all the time, there'd be all kinds of UFO footage, and there, there just isn't you.
01:13:24 The men say they planned their designs with geometric precision today in a cornfield near Chichester, they set out to show how they did it, carrying the tools they've used for 13 years, watched this time by the world's press. The Japanese are especially curious about this strange art form, Mr. Chole and Mr. Bauer went to work spiraling outwards to make their crop circle.
01:13:46 The secret they say is flattening the corn halfway up the stem, which gives a different effect to merely trampling on it. Working by day was a luxury for them. Normally, they did it by the dead of night. Next day, they returned to join the
01:14:01 infiltrate their ranks. When they came up to look at the circles that we've done, we came up the next night and mixed in with them and listening into all their conversations to what their next move was going to be, such as putting people on and spotting and all this sort of thing.
01:14:15 And we managed to glean a bit of information that way, but we could see that they were expecting something bigger all the time.
01:14:22 And when you get out one of these fields at midnight or two in the morning, we would rather, I'd rather be eating one of these fields and have a week away and say the France or something, because anyone that's not been in one at midnight in an English country, so over the moon up and you're doing that, a few beers and a couple of cheese rolls. Absolutely wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.
01:14:40 The so that's all it was. That's all it was,
01:14:49 two bored guys going out and mixing in with the people that were like the scientists that were trying to crack the code and. They would listen to their conversations find out like, Oh, so that's where you're going to be looking. Well, we definitely won't do it there.
01:15:07 And look, the scientists still refuse to believe it.
01:15:11 The circle gurus are not so easily put off. Colin Andrews, who studied them for years, was convinced that this was not like the others.
01:15:20 Straight away we can see this is everything we could ever see with a hoax. The plants are broken. They are rough. The grain is on the floor. There's no symmetry here whatsoever. It's extremely ragged, extremely ragged. And it is obviously a hoax. So is
01:15:35 it a hoax or an unexplained phenomenon? It seems tonight that the issue is far from settled. One thing Sure, there won't be many more crop circles this year. Almost all the corn has been harvested.
01:15:45 See, it just goes to show that even when faced with the evidence,
01:15:53 people will not let go of this drink. It's kind of like with Trump, right? All these people that believe that Trump was, was the the second coming of Hitler. And I spent years, years telling these people, hey, yeah, no, actually, it seems like he's owned by Jews. No, actually, it seems like he's really owned by Jews. He's not going to lock her up. And they just, they wouldn't. They even, when faced the evidence, and then they finally came to terms with it, sort of, right.
01:16:29 But what happens, just like with the with this, like at first, when, when showing the proof, you know, the guys were like, Oh, I guess we got hoaxed. And then by the next day, they'd already convinced themselves that, no, no, the real hoax is their hoax. It's a double hoax. They're trying to double hoax us.
01:16:51 This final circle, if it is to be that lacks the precision of many of the others. It looks as if the controversy is far from over. Graham bowed, coast to coast.
01:17:00 Sussex, well back from watching that demonstration corn circle expert Patrick Delgado from alsford in Hampshire. Mr. Delgado, you are not convinced then by the hoaxes.
01:17:12 No, I'm not, except I'm convinced that it's a hoax.
01:17:16 Is there no way at all, deep in your heart of hearts, that they could be telling the truth.
01:17:22 I know I can't see a way through they've endeavored, I suppose they've done their very best to try to convince us, but it's failed. What I've seen today out at that farm, I had a look at it, and along with Colin Andrews and all I could see, I won't speak for Colin, all I could see was that the crop had been pushed down. And there were things about it that I could see, that it was man made.
01:17:56 Now you see, with respect, you do have a bit of a vested interest in keeping all this game, because you make money out of writing books about
01:18:02 crops, so you're making it sound very mercenary. It isn't that at all. It's very nice. Some of our money back. For instance, we spent quite a few 1000 pounds on traveling, on buying cameras and equipment and things like that, and it takes quite a long time to reimburse it.
01:18:21 So, so it's sunk cost fallacy is what it is. It's sunk cost fallacy. People put their hopes and dreams in an idea, and they think that eventually they're going to get something out of it. In this guy's case, he thought he was going to get, you know, the answers to the universe, or whatever he was going to discover aliens by studying circles in some fields, and it didn't pay off. And so now he's disappointed, and he is going to
01:18:53 double down instead of trying to admit that that he was wrong, he was wrong, and the evidence shows that he was wrong and he got tricked. That's another thing people don't want to believe that they they're tricked. That's the hardest thing about trying to convince people that.
01:19:14 You know, qanon is the extreme example, but anything like that, anything that people start to believe in that gives them some kind of hope. And it doesn't have to be even, you know, like I said, doesn't have to be like Q anon type stuff, even when faced with evidence, they don't want to give up that hope. And so they'll ignore the evidence, and they'll double down and continue on their merry way, because that's preferable to facing the truth, and that's just human nature. That's what we're up against.
01:19:49 Unfortunately, that's just the way that it is. That's how most people are. Now there are the exceptions to that rule. There are the people that immediately see the crop circles and they're like, that's. Fake. It's fake, so I don't really have to worry about it, and I can move on with my life and not even pay too much of attention. So you know, what are you going to do?
01:20:25 What are you gonna do? I guess that's who my show's for. My show is for the people who see the crop circles and their brain does not immediately jump to aliens. If you're the type of person that sees the crop circles and your brain immediately jumps to aliens, then this is not for you. It's a filter. It's a bit of a filter.
01:20:42 You know, it's kind of like all these people on Twitter that always say, like, what should we do if you have to ask, you're not going to make it like you're not you're just going to be ruled by someone else. You know, one way or another, you're going to be ruled by someone else.
01:20:55 So we're tricked by someone else anyway. So that's crop circles. Nothing too profound. I just thought it was funny. I thought it was funny because Absolutely, there are things going on in the world and not, like I said, not necessarily political, just things going on the world that seem like a like reasonable.
01:21:15 They seem reasonable that even if you don't 100% believe it, you're, you're, you don't feel like an idiot for entertaining the possibility, you know, like when crop circles first came out, there were plenty of intelligent people that maybe they didn't think aliens right away.
01:21:33 They They also didn't think two guys with a board and some rope, you know, eating cheese and drinking and making circles in a field because they thought it was funny. They thought it was possible that maybe, maybe it's some kind of supernatural force.
01:21:51 Maybe it has something to do with Stonehenge. Maybe it has something to do with aliens. Maybe it has to do with, you know, some kind of underground magnetic, you know, force, or some kind of haunting, or, who knows, but they were open to the idea. They were open to the possibility.
01:22:14 They entertained it as a possibility. And there's lots of people today who are reasonable, who will be presented with things where there is a clear, it's clearly two guys in a field with a board, you know, or something like that, like, maybe you don't know exactly that it's two guys, or that they're using a board, or whatever, but you know, it's, you know, it's
01:22:36 Also not Illuminati, you know, whatever you know UFOs, and yet, there are intelligent people that will still entertain these possibilities. They'll entertain these possibilities, and they won't even when faced with information that shows that they're these possibilities are stupid.
01:22:58 They continue to entertain these possibilities. It's just human nature. It's never going away. Like I said, 30 years. 30 years, people will look back at a lot of what's going on today and think we were just as fucking stupid as people in the 90s, because it's not limited just crop circles, like there's face on Mars.
01:23:18 There's all kinds of stuff that was going on. Lots of money to be made, lots of Grifters making money off of supernatural, fanciful bullshit. All right, so anyway,
01:23:33 I know, I know I like I said, I don't like,
01:23:38 I don't like drama. I don't like drama, but because it is like a thing,
01:23:45 it is a thing.
01:23:47 I will, and I don't want to, also just like not say anything ever. I will, I will. I will talk about the Nick thing. How about that? I will talk about the Fuentes thing, since apparently now I'm dead to him. Oh no, I'm. I'm really gonna miss all those
01:24:06 actually, nothing's gonna change at all. You could have told me I was dead to him five years ago, I'd be like, Oh, okay, how would I know the difference? So yeah, literally, nothing changes for me.
01:24:19 He wasn't like, like a buddy or or anything like that. I think we exchanged a total of three DMS over the last, you know, decade or whatever, however long it's been, he's never promoted me. He's never, I don't even know that he's ever even said my name on a show, maybe, maybe once or twice.
01:24:39 So like, literally nothing changes for me, like nothing changes for me. And look there, as I said, there is a missing piece to the puzzle. I've always been really fair to Nick. I've always been really fair to Nick. And in fact, when I started to see the. Couple months ago, like four months ago or so, a, I think I described it before as a subtle but sudden shift in rhetoric, a de radical really.
01:25:18 The only way I can describe it is it was like a de radicalizing tone. Not really. It wasn't just tone, though. It was like he was literally saying de radicalizing things. Now, you don't have to go out and, like, obviously, I don't, I don't tell people to be violent or anything like that, but he would go above and beyond telling people not to be violent and and that, you know, we're going to solve this politically.
01:25:41 And it just there was something weird about the tone of it. And again, I just was like, well, whatever, someone tried to kill him. So he's, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't end up like Charlie Kirk, you know, I get it, you know, whatever this is before Charlie Kirk, this was probably about three, four months ago.
01:25:55 But then he also started getting more inclusive with his language, talking more and more, and like he always kind of was, and that was distressing to me. The fact that he would talk shit about poor white people, but then make excuses for a schizophrenic nigger that because he was rich, made me really question his priorities.
01:26:14 Really made me question his priorities, and I thought I was being charitable by not giving him shit about, you know that his racial background, which a lot of people like to jump on. And, you know, there's, yeah, I've never, I've never jumped on the bandwagon for, like, you know, the anti Nick stuff, because, honestly, I saw what he was doing as a net positive, until I started to see the shift in tone.
01:26:50 And I reached out to some people who I don't, you know, not because I don't have their permissions. I'm not gonna say they are, but like, I reached out to some people, like, about this time, about three or four months ago, and I said, I get the sense that he is, he is toning down his rhetoric because he's making a move to go mainstream.
01:27:18 And I was told, Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. He's saying all this pro white stuff. And I was like, but I this is, I have a sense that, and I I'm usually right about these sorts of things, but I kind of get, again, this is before Charlie Kirk is, like, three or four months ago.
01:27:34 I said, I kind of get the sense that he's he's toning it down to be more palatable to mainstream outlets. He's focusing more. I mean, talk about ankle biting, for fuck sake. People saying ankle biting, motherfucker would do entire streams where all he did was, bitch about bigger streamers not letting him on.
01:27:50 Okay, like, entire streams where, like, that's all he complained about was, like, some big, some big YouTuber, like, he should have him on, you know, like, it's just like, Really dude, really dude.
01:28:03 So to actually push back on one of his bad ideas, if that's ankle biting, then he's like, the king of fucking ankle biting. Okay, but I noticed that too, he was, like, really insistent on being on these mainstream podcasts. And then once he got on these mainstream podcasts, he would noticeably tone down a lot, especially like the racial rhetoric.
01:28:28 And a lot of people said at the time, you know, he has to do that, yeah, by the way, start to see a pattern. This is the sort of thing that you would see people say about Trump, right? Well, he has to say that, secretly, He's our guy, but he has to say this because if he were to say the other thing, he would never get elected, right? You know, it was literally carbon copy, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't give him shit for it. I said, Look, you know, look, he is, he is, obviously has political ambitions.
01:29:05 You probably can't get a lot. I mean, I don't know what he wants to run for, but you, yeah, you can't really get elected saying some of the things that he says. So if, if that's what he wants to do, is run for con i don't know what he wants to do, but maybe he wants to run for Congress, or something like that.
01:29:21 But then you also see him like, for no reason, really, for no reason, savagely, you know, talk about, again, talk about counter signaling, savagely.
01:29:35 I mean, counter signaling doesn't even like, it's not even that's not a strong enough word, savagely. Attack fellow travelers, right? You know, like, whether it's the white nationalists in Australia, white nationalists in the UK, for no reason at all, really, for no reason, like it wasn't like they mentioned him, or, or, or he was, you know that there was any kind of relationship there. He they would be brought up in a super chat, benignly, and for no reason, he would lay into them.
01:30:08 And I was like, Okay, well, this is this. It's maybe it's like an ego thing where there can be only one, and he doesn't want
01:30:19 you know his his cult like following, and that's what it is. It's a cult of personality. It's kind of similar to the the bears in a lot of ways, I've discovered, but you know, and in the same way, you know, they don't want he doesn't want them going out elsewhere. He wants them only you're only here.
01:30:36 This is the I Am. I Am your source. Just like a church doesn't want you visiting any other churches, you know, you have to come here to pray.
01:30:46 And again, I was like, well, that's not really, it's not really what I do, you know, I like, actually want to have good relationships with the other people who have at least most of my objectives, you know, care about, I mean, there's so few people actually care about white people,
01:31:06 it's, I'm not super picky Nick. Nick is a perfect example of that. I'm not super picky. So even if they're not doing what I think is is optical or doing a strategy I think is going to work. And look, people would bring up people that I thought were not doing the best strategy in my super chats, and that's how I would answer. I'd be like, you know, it's not what I would do, but whatever, you know, I might give advice. Like, I don't know if it's the most productive way, but I was never like, they're stupid.
01:31:40 They're bad and you're stupid. If you watch them,
01:31:46 that's not the that's not the route Nick took ever Nick would always throw them under the bus. Talking to me, he talks about circling the wagons. He's never fucking done that, never, never, ever done that. And I was like, again, I was gracious, because I thought, hey, whatever.
01:32:08 I still, I still think it's a net positive. He's getting a lot of people to think about, you know, the JQ he is, he is getting, in some ways, explicitly racial, in a positive way about white people. I don't, don't like the way that it's colored. Sometimes don't like the the acceptance of of,
01:32:36 you know, all these, these non whites as as part of the club. But whatever you know, like, ultimately, I think you know all everything, even when you when you look at all that, it's still, I think, a net positive, right?
01:32:49 I still think cultural that you know in terms of cultural shift in his generation and, you know, and younger, these are positive movements. And just because he has a a narcissistic side, or maybe more than a side eight, so do a lot of people that do this kind of work, and his is just really maybe pronounced, and you know, you got to take the bad with the good, right?
01:33:20 But I do have a red line, right? What have I always said? I want what's good for the survival of my people. I want what's good for white people. That's and I've always said that's my priority. Maybe it's developed a little bit. I mean, if you've been listening for like, the last 10 years or whatever, years, or whatever it's, I've gotten more like that. You could say in in like, the last, you know, five or six or maybe, yeah, it has evolved a little bit.
01:33:54 But that's for a very long time I've been pretty explicit. That is what I want. And I've been, look, I've been, I've even been flexible about that. I'm not one of these guys where, like, you have to be white and Christian, you have to be white and pagan, you know, like, I'll joke about Italians not being white and, you know, Irish not being white.
01:34:16 But like, I'm joking, right? I'm never like, like, you know, you have to be founding stock American, or you have to be this, or you have to be that. No, I've said, especially in America, if you're white, you know, like that's if you look white and you identify as white. Now we got to work with what we got. That's good enough for me, and that's partially why, by the way, I was I was not critical of fuantes racial background, because as far as I could tell, he identified as white. Now that's not the case when. The cops show up, a black cop shows up, and suddenly he's Mexican. But even then, I was like, All right, well,
01:35:07 I get it in that situation, right? You don't want to tell the black cop, yeah, I'm a white supremacist, you know, like, so your last name is Fuentes. You get, you get you have that card you can play. I get it all right. I don't love it. I don't love it. And it also, you know, it opens the door to is this, you know how much of this is just strategically, I'm talking to a black cop, and he thinks I'm a white supremacist, and my life's being threatened again.
01:35:39 That's a lot of pressure to be under. And so this is a way I can get the black cop to not hate me.
01:35:45 I get it. I get it. I actually do. I get it. So it's stuff like that where I'm like, okay, see, by the way, this is, this is why, if you're just white, you don't have to worry about all these, these, there's none, none of these question marks exist. Right? Or if he, like, actually had any kind of channels of communication open with, with people, you know, this wouldn't exist. But, you know, I get it.
01:36:11 I don't really, I don't really talk to, I mean, I talk to people that are scheduling me on to be on different streams, and even then, like, I'm kind of, you know, I'm famously hard to get a hold of. So I get it. I get it. And he's probably 10 times busier than I am, you know, so I get it, but it, that's the thing, is it creates, you know, we don't know, we don't know. All I can go off of then is whatever he says publicly, and it seems to shift a lot, and it doesn't seem to be very consistent. And he seems to be punching white nationalists, you know, rhetorically.
01:36:44 And it doesn't seem like he's 100% on board with the the, you know, the whole team white thing. And he seems very inclusive. I mean, one minute he's saying that he wants white, you know, America to be like 80% white, or whatever he says. And then the next he's talking about how he, you know, he loves all people, and it's a little bit murky. It's a little bit murky.
01:37:09 And so when I saw him in a clip, say explicitly, and it's it's explicit that
01:37:22 he didn't care what what color you were, and by the way, he prefaced it by saying, I know this is going to get me in trouble. So it wasn't like he was he was just speaking, and, you know, phrased it incorrectly. This was a planned thing for him to say, or at least in the moment he he was, he was at least thinking that a sentence ahead and said that. I know this is gonna be controversial, but I don't care what color you are, if you are, well, let's play the clip. Let's I'll play the clip.
01:38:01 Let's say here. Okay,
01:38:08 get some backbone. Get the courage of your convictions if you're out there, and by the way, I don't care what color you are, I know maybe that's going to be controversial on my side. But seriously, if you have citizenship, if you were born in this country, this is your birthright. This is our lives, this is our rights. This is our heritage. It's our tax dollars, it's our government, it's our military. This is our country.
01:38:39 This so that's pretty explicit.
01:38:44 I don't care what color you are, if you were born here, if you have citizenship, this is our country. This is our he uses the word birthright. Now in this, this environment where I'm seeing a a
01:39:07 acceptance of Nick into the mainstream, a toning down to the rhetoric when he's in these interviews, again, I'm excusing all these things away. I'm saying, well, he's trying to, you know, whatever you know. He's being strategic or whatever. And then I hear Him say something like this, where he's explicitly saying birthright. He's explicitly saying, I don't care what color you are if you're born here, if you have citizenship, well,
01:39:32 what does that mean? Exactly?
01:39:35 Because these things matter. This is kind of a big deal. This is a big part of what we are fighting for, not just in America, but in white countries everywhere, where this is the line that we have been fighting for years to draw. This is the distinction we have been fighting for years to make. Into the minds of the people that we are trying to influence into actually voting for their own interests, or at least acting in their own interests, to stop viewing
01:40:13 everyone else
01:40:15 as as a legitimate citizen of their country, because they have some kind of piece of paper, saying that they're American, saying that they're German, saying, you know, whatever, this is a big fucking deal. And you are 1,000% explicit about that,
01:40:34 and you should be shit on for saying that. You should get pushback for saying that.
01:40:46 And if that's not what you meant, you should clarify. That's not what you meant, but you said it. You 100% said it.
01:40:59 Now I tweeted this clip out, and I said was the exact words. It was something like, what are we doing here? Now, birthright citizen or no? Is it birthright Nath or nationalism? Well, I'll look it up. What did I say?
01:41:20 That's the funny thing is, is like, it wasn't,
01:41:24 it wasn't even that. I wasn't even being that much of a dick. I wasn't like, oh, Nick's an evil fuck. I said, so now it's anchor baby nationalism.
01:41:33 That's what I said. Because, by definition, that's what it that's what it is, that's what it is if you were born here, I don't care what color you are if you were born here, if you're a citizen, by definition that includes anchor babies, by definition, that includes people like Vivek, and given the toning down of the rhetoric in these mainstream interviews and the kind of loosey goosey past that we've we've experienced, it just has been, sorry, guys. Hate to break it to you. He hasn't been like,
01:42:16 Sure, he's one day he's explicitly pro white the next day, he's shitting on white nationalists and saying, how good fucking a schizophrenic nigger who sucked off his own cousin. You know, he should be president. So how am I supposed to take that? Right? So I tweet that out.
01:42:35 Now, here's the part of the story you haven't heard arval, who also got thrown under the bus, who I literally never talked to in my life until that stream, which was planned weeks ago, by the way, that's the other thing that that stream with arval was planned like, like two because it got postponed.
01:42:56 You guys, if you guys. If you listen to the show, you probably remember me saying, Oh, I'm gonna be on with arval, you know, like, by the end of the week. And we didn't do it right. That's, that's, that was the same time. And I still, I literally never, never talked to the guy.
01:43:13 But anyway, arval apparently also understood it to mean the same because I wasn't the only one that that took it to mean this. Lots of people, lots of people took, took it the same way I did that. Like, was like, hey, well, hold on, hold on there, buddy.
01:43:29 I mean if, if, if you mean what you say, and I try to mean what I say, and you speak professionally for a living, so I would think that you would have the the ability to in the self awareness, to know what you were saying. Then this is a problem. And lots of people pointed this out. It wasn't just me.
01:43:50 And arval also saw it. Was concerned, and he DMed him and said, Hey, I need some clarification on this so I can, you know, defend you like this, this, this is concerning for me. I don't know his exact words, but it was something along those lines, right? You can watch.
01:44:06 He did like a 20 i i think he was way too diplomatic about it, but he posted like, a 20 minute video or something explaining, you know, the whole situation. And Nick's response is, basically, you're dead to me. And it's funny, because a lot of people were like, Oh, I didn't know that arval DMed him, and they had talked about it.
01:44:26 And that's, that's the response again, arval is not the only one that had a DM conversation with Nick, and since I'm dead to him, let's have a let's have a little and you want to know what what was said? I'll tell you what was said
01:44:41 wasn't too crazy. You tell me if I was out of line here.
01:44:46 So I tweet out again.
01:44:49 I tweet out so now it's anchor baby nationalism. That's it not. Nick's a traitor, not. I knew it nothing like that. Pretty benign, definite pushback. Back on a red line for me. He DMS me like the next day. Do you really think this was a good faith interpretation of what I said?
01:45:12 This is after it's been out on the internet and he hasn't responded to any again, it's not just me this after it's been on the internet for over 24 hours. He hasn't, you know, clarified his statement, and I replied, of course, or I wouldn't have said it.
01:45:34 There aren't a whole lot of ways you can interpret someone saying they don't care about a person's race, but if they are a citizen, they have the same birthright as anyone else, and you preface the statement by acknowledging it would be controversial. So it's not like it was a throwaway line, and I'm hardly the only one that interpreted it that way. If you meant something different from what you said, I'm all ears.
01:45:59 I've always tried to be fair to you in the past, but even many gripers interpreted it like I did, and are busily telling me why it's a good thing in my replies, which is true, I'm not the I'm not the lone psycho that twisted Nick's words, no, he said exactly what he said. And what I said he said is exactly what he said.
01:46:26 And which is why a lot of confused gripers who had to suddenly shift their position on a, you know, just turn turn on a fucking dime, because, you know, the Dear Leader had a major position shift, and they had to go along with it, we're defending exactly that that position. Now, there were a few that were like, well, he didn't really mean it, you know, but you could tell there was nervousness.
01:46:50 A lot of them fucking thought that's what he meant, and we're trying to defend it from that point of view. I continued and said, and by the way, you know, I'm not one of these jealous spurgs calling you a Cat Boy, Sephardic beaner or whatever, even if a chunk of my audience would like nothing more for them, or nothing more than for me to do exactly that, all things considered, you're wide enough for me, but my family has been here since the first Dutch and English colonists And this kind of thing, this kind of big tent thing, is just a red line.
01:47:25 Even if it seems impractical not to pander to non whites, you have to acknowledge that there is a reasonable cloud of suspicion that develops when someone is propelled into the mainstream, and a valid concern that compromises might accompany that which is, look, we've seen it a million times. We've seen it a million fucking times. Someone goes mainstream.
01:47:49 All of the sudden, they're not radical anymore, right? So that's not that's not an unusual concern to have. Compromising on demographics.
01:47:59 This is back to my DM. Compromising on demographics is just not something I can get behind. But again, if you meant something else, I'm sure lots of people would love to hear you explain it. I'm sure there are lots of people itching to see you fail for the sake of seeing you fail, but I'm not one of them, so I made it clear. Look, maybe you meant something different than what you said, but you said this.
01:48:27 It's a valid concern for people like me to have to think that you might be making compromises to be more palatable to the mainstream. That's a totally normal fucking concern to have. I made it clear. Look, I'm not one of these guys that just wants you to fucking burn because they hate your personality or whatever.
01:48:46 I don't talk shit about you. Even though there's people my audience that want me to talk shit about you, I still don't do it. I'm not one of these people that wants to just watch you fail for the sake of watching you fail. If you didn't mean this.
01:49:03 Just say you didn't mean it. His response
01:49:09 to my extremely, extremely fair,
01:49:15 extremely fair concerns were, have a nice life, to which I replied right back at you, and that was, I think, Saturday before I streamed with Arvo, and then I did the stream with Arvo, and I, I might have said a couple snippy things, because I was probably in a bad mood about groipers and Nick or something like that, but I still didn't go ham. Even then I didn't go ham, I was just like,
01:49:48 you know, so that's now you know the full story.
01:49:53 Now you know the full story. I wasn't trying to ankle bite or or shit on him or what is. What the tall poppy thing, or whatever the fuck he's trying to say. They're like, Oh, he we get popular, popular, and they try to cut us down. No, I told him, like, look, just if that's not what you meant, explain it. Notice how, by the way, he's never said. He's never said that's not what he meant. He's never apologized.
01:50:20 He's never said maybe I worded it weirdly or badly. No, what has he said? He's acting credulous. That's what he's done. His response is, why would you think I meant that? How could anyone think I meant that I've been so pro white? How could you think that he never says I didn't mean that?
01:50:36 What am I supposed to explain it? Put an asterisk on it's like, No, dude, you, you, you literally said that if you you don't care what color someone is, if they're born in America and they have citizenship, it's their birthright.
01:50:55 Those are the words you used. And if all you had done, if you're look, if you're trying to be this big coalition builder, and this is part of your strategy to include brown people, but, but Devon Stack questions, one of the things you said say, or arval questions, one of the things you say, two white guys, pro white guys, been doing this a long time,
01:51:21 just as long as you Nick and I've been right a lot fucking longer than you have been when you were still sucking up the fucking Zion Don
01:51:32 and what do you do under the bus? Under the bus, you're dead to me.
01:51:43 The real reason is, let's just be real Nick. The real reason is, in both the cases of me and arval and anyone else, it's because you were wrong. It's because you were wrong and you don't want allies. You want admirers. You want people that just bend the fucking knee and suck up to you.
01:52:07 And so when you find people that aren't going to do that, and you're so used to that, because a lot of people do that, there's people that hate you that suck up to you bad. There's people you hate that suck up to you bad. You
01:52:28 when someone's not going to suck up to you, it's a problem. It's a problem, isn't it?
01:52:38 So yeah, it doesn't matter that I'm dead to him. I was already dead to him. It really doesn't fucking matter. Nothing, nothing about my life is going to change.
01:52:48 And whatever, you know, I tried to be cool about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with what. You know, my response. I was just honest. You know, he said, he said, Do you really think this is good faith? Interpretation? What I says, All right, you want good faith. This is good faith.
01:53:05 Good Faith is You did say that. You did say that, if you didn't mean that, I'm willing to, I'm willing to hear what you actually meant. Here's why this is a big deal for me. All reasonable things. You know, I am founding stock American. I do. I do want this, you know, being white to be a part of what it means to be American.
01:53:29 Increasingly, doesn't matter. This is a red line for me. It appears that you are, you're crossing that line. Maybe I'm wrong.
01:53:45 That's why I'm I'm pointing this out. It's not because I'm one of these people that wants to see you destroyed or whatever. So what is it? What did I miss? What
01:54:04 now you guys know that's the that's what he did to arval. Look, arval didn't even like I said. He didn't even publicly say anything. He just privately said, Hey, this is what it sounds like. What did you mean?
01:54:17 And that was too much for him.
01:54:20 So it kind of tells me he did mean to say that
01:54:24 and he's mad. There was pushback. He did mean to say that. He's mad. There was pushback. He had to walk it back. Politicians do this all the time.
01:54:34 Politicians will say something, usually on a weekend, yeah, usually when there's a couple days for it to go through the media and people to talk about it so they can see, you know, where does it go? What are all the different you know, what's, what's everyone going to say about? You know, Trump used to do this all the time. Trump would say something crazy. You know, on a Friday, sometimes. Would go away by Monday. Sometimes it wouldn't.
01:55:11 But he said, what he said,
01:55:16 all he would have to do, if he didn't mean that, all any a normal person would do is just say, I didn't mean that. Oh, well, there you go. He didn't mean it. In fact, it make me look like dumb, right? Oh, egg on my face. Sorry. That's not what he would say.
01:55:35 No. So anyway, that's, that's it. That's the thing. I don't really care about it. I know there's people that do, but I don't, I don't really give a shit. He was never like, my leader. I was I've never been a griper. I've never been like I've never been America first. That's never been my thing.
01:55:56 To the extent that he existed, like I said, in this fear. I recognize the influence they had, and, you know, and I watched the show sometimes, until it's got really, like I said, kind of deradicalizing and and
01:56:12 multi multicultural in a sense, you know, it was starting to get a little too lovey dovey with the non whites, you know. And, you know, whatever, right?
01:56:25 So, yeah, well, we'll see. We'll see what happens. I suspect that he did mean it. It got pushed back. He didn't like and maybe he'll trend more in that direction at a future date, but, or maybe not. I Who knows, because he won't, yeah, he's not telling us. So he's just trying to, you
01:56:48 know, throw it again, throw us all under the bus. Anyone that challenged him and like, there's obviously the reason why he's doing that is he's trying to set the tone. We've gone over.
01:56:58 We've done, like, I've done entire episodes about how, you know, cult behavior and how this is very similar to, you know, like when Owen Benjamin would just ban anyone to disagree with him, right, in creating this, this climate of fear in the bears, where, if you ever disagreed with him, you would get banned. And so everyone stopped disagreeing with him because they don't want to get banned.
01:57:21 You know, it's the same sort of a thing. It's a fall in line, or you'll be dead to me. Like that works on some people, weak people, weak, sniveling, weaselly people. It's not going to work on me anyway. Let's take a look at entropy. I'm it, which I don't think crashed, thank God. All right.
01:57:49 Oh, phase says, Thank you for all of your hard work, Devon I appreciate that. Oh, I didn't get rid of the Wookies yet, by the way. Sadly, have not had time, not a time lucky. Larry Silverstein says, Dave on the Backlash, was having a womanly meltdown about Devon and how gay he is for his E boy. Nick Fuentes, hey, Dave, if you ever hear this, you're a well, come on.
01:58:18 Oh, well, I don't. I haven't seen it yet, so I can't,
01:58:22 maybe I'll want to have read that later after I watch it, but I haven't seen it yet. He was, look, he was being a little bitch. He was being a little bitch this morning. I will tell you that he was being, I was trying, look, ironically, I was trying to stick up for him.
01:58:35 So what happened was, this morning, on Twitter, I saw that the guy who got elected as Mayor of quarter line, quarter lane, Idaho, was some Zionist faggot that I knew that these, you know, that doesn't like nationalists, right? And I tweeted out, well, you know, the fact that we've had all these nationalists living in quarter lane for, you know, decades, and they're, they're even in this small town, they're unable to control the government.
01:59:01 It doesn't really give me a lot of give me a lot of confidence that, even on a small scale, that we're able to infiltrate things. And someone replied, and they weren't being nasty, but they replied something along the lines of, well, all you know, all the people out there do is they just podcast and have cookouts or something like that.
01:59:21 And I was like, well, it's not exactly fair. I mean, there's, they're up against a machine now, because I'm not from Coeur d'Alene, and I don't know anything about the local politics there, I made the mistake of trusting chat GPT. And I just asked, you know, chat GPT, hey, this is this guy just won this election. You know, what are his sources of funding? Who was supporting him?
01:59:44 And chat GBT apparently spit out a bunch of hallucinations that had a lot of inaccuracies. So what I did was I tweeted out, and I should, I should have double checked it, but I tweeted out, hey, you know it's, it's more complicated that it's not, you know, it's not that they're just.
01:59:59 Uh, you know, podcasting and having barbecues. You know that it's a thankless job. What they're doing, they don't make a lot of money. And you know, so even if they were to try to organize and go against this guy, they would be wildly out powered. And you know, here's listed some apparently incorrect sources of money that he had.
02:00:21 And that was it, all right? And I was like, so, you know, it's more complicated than just they're not doing anything. So Dave, one of the guys I'm literally, I'm really defending, comes at me like a fucking bitch, like, comes at me like a bitch. Sorry, Dave, I haven't seen the thing.
02:00:36 Maybe I'll really be glad that I said this. But it's true, either way, you came at me like a bitch, like you came at me like a fucking bitch, like, if you had said that shit to my face, we'd be fighting right now like that. What that the way that you came at me was so out of pocket, I would have put you down. I would have put you fucking in the ground, not permanently, but you'd be dusting yourself off.
02:00:57 Okay? And he did. He came at me like a fucking bitch, like, squealing about, like, how I Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. Oh, you're crazy. Oh, you're gonna and it, like, implied that he screenshotted my tweet so they could use it against me later, something I've heard that you do, by the way, there might be, might be, why Nick Fontes literally called You disgusting recently.
02:01:19 But anyway, so, yeah, we I don't know, why would you suck off a guy who literally called You disgusting just a few months ago. He again, that was another one of these instances where Nick, just for no reason, unprovoked in a super chat, decided to throw a hook at someone on our side, and you were the target, and he called You disgusting. So I don't know what that's all about, but I've heard things.
02:01:44 But anyway, so you come at me when I'm literally trying to stick up for you. Okay?
02:01:51 And it's like you could have just said, Hey, you got this wrong. I'd be like, Oh, well, okay. But instead, no, you try to make it seem like, Aha, I finally got Devon this time. Like you were just like, waiting for me to be wrong about something.
02:02:06 And it's like, all right, dude, whatever, like, so I'm wrong about, like, local politics in small town, Idaho, oh, you got me. Oh, you got me, Dave, Oh, I'm so wounded. Please don't share that screenshot you have of the of the tweet of me being wrong about local politics and fucking Idaho anyway,
02:02:30 but yeah, he came at me like a bitch, and I was just like, Dude, come on. I That's another person. I've always been nice to him. Always been nice to him, even when I've had disagreements with him. In fact, after we did the stream, when it was me and Adam green, and we were making him uncomfortable about, like, talking about Catholicism and stuff, I didn't want him to feel like I had something against him.
02:02:54 So after the stream, I even D I was like, Hey buddy, you know, like that. I don't have any, I don't have a problem with you just, you know, I don't remember exactly what I said, but I said, like, hey, you know, whatever. And he and he responded nicely. He said, like, yeah, we're still friends or whatever. So yeah, it's not like there's any reason for him to
02:03:15 to be like that unless he's just got, he just wants to publicly fill late Nick It's so hard that he'll, he'll be welcome back or something. I don't know what that's all about, but yeah, it was, it was weird. It was weird. Like, damn dude, chill the fuck out. Like, seriously, chill the fuck out.
02:03:38 And then I hear, I don't know again, I don't I haven't seen it, so I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is, but it is, but I've heard that he had some kind of fucking crash out about me on on their show today. I I don't know if it's not that bad, maybe, I guess maybe, maybe I got a little caught up there, Dave. But if it is that bad, then then times two, whatever I just said, but that it's hard.
02:04:03 I don't know. I'm working in the dark here. I'm working in the dark. I'll watch it later. I don't even know if I'll watch it tonight. I'll, maybe I'll watch it tomorrow, but, yeah, and the anyway, that's, that's, that's, that was weird. That was, it was weird. It was weird to me because, you know, whatever, I don't have a problem fucking Dave. I don't, probably anybody that's like, the whole thing.
02:04:25 I don't, I didn't have a problem with Nick, like, I honestly didn't. Now have a problem with, well, I've had, I've had, like, a couple problems, a couple people over, like, the decade I've been doing this and, but it's been pretty fucking minor and, and so anyway, I'm not. I'm just not a, I'm not a e drama guy. I'm not, and it's not because I can't, it's not because, like, I'm incapable of going there.
02:04:53 It just It doesn't help save white people. Like, don't you get it? Like, I really not. That's not, well, I'm not. I'm not in the. Is for, like, personal attention. I'm not in this for like, you know, clicks or whatever. I really do want to help white people. Like, that's why I do this.
02:05:11 So it doesn't help white people doing e drama, anyway, whatever, a horrible hangover says, what kind of software do you use to make the stream? What kind of computer do you have? Not asking for trade secrets. Thanks for all you do. I mean, it's nothing too crazy, just like, you know, I got like, like, it was what my computer ate shit a couple years ago. And I think I literally got like, a it was, like, it was a Walmart computer, like, on Black Friday kind of a deal. Like, it was just like gaming computer, where it's got some crap tastic AMD, like, made for laptops.
02:05:48 Video Card, like, where it's it's just good enough, you know, because, you know, video cards have gotten ridiculously expensive, so it was just enough, and just enough RAM like, to where I can run everything, and it works fine. I don't know, I don't remember what processor is in it, but it's, you know, it's not super new.
02:06:12 And, yeah, I just use, well, you probably saw earlier in the show, is premiere So, and then OBS, so, then horrible hangover again says, I know you stand divided on religion, but curious where you stand on the existing. I think you mean existence of God. I believe in a greater creator, but have trouble stomaching the doctrines of Christianity or other religions.
02:06:43 I mean, I don't know.
02:06:46 I want to believe in a spiritual world, a you know, something greater than us, whether that's, you know, like an intelligence, you know, like a actual being, you know, like a, like, in a sense, like a father figure, kind of a thing. I don't know. I don't know. I've never really had like a, you know, like a spiritual experience. I well, I'll take that back. I saw what I thought was like the face of evil.
02:07:20 Once, like I saw something that was just like it. It was other worldly evil, and which made me believe in good. Like I was just like, wow, that's that is that it was bad, which is why I don't talk about it, and I'm not going to, but it was, it was worse than then it was the close thing.
02:07:44 It was supernatural experience I can think of, really. It was just like, Damn evil exists. But so I'm hoping, hoping good. Does you know what I mean? Like, it was one of those things, but, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, like, the
02:08:00 you know, I don't know that. I don't think anyone really knows. I mean, even the people that say they know, they don't really know. There's lots of people that that are that, well, that's why they call it faith, right? I mean, you don't have faith in, you know, your car existing, right?
02:08:17 Like you just your car exists, but it it requires different language when you're talking about this sort of thing, because no one really knows, you know, I don't think most people that are that even attend church. They don't know. And I think even like,
02:08:36 like, my mom's really has a lot of faith, I guess you could say, and I've asked her about I've said, you know, are there ever other are there ever moments where you're like, This is all bullshit. I didn't, that's my mom. I didn't. She's Mormon. I didn't say like that, but basically, you know.
02:08:52 And her response was like, of course, you know. So I think that's just normal. I think that's normal. And, yeah, I don't know if I ever feel like I have discovered the truths of the universe. You guys will be the first ones in the know, then we got 500 miles of left turns. 500 miles left turn says, long time replay.
02:09:15 Listener, can't sleep right now. Love you. Devon, shout out. Siv, in the chat. Here's a long deserved Dono. Can I get some sick techno sound bite or fag let's see here.
02:09:34 How's that? All right,
02:09:39 then we got sax and son says, Nick continues to court the Latinos. So many white nationalists complain about white replacement, yet embrace the replacement, which is Latinos. This is the main issue facing us. So many traders, for those, for those goblinos, it's insane.
02:09:59 Intact. Sis, undoing our revolutionary war here. Thanks for all you do. Well, it's actually undoing the Spanish American War, isn't it? Isn't that why there's, like Spanish, I mean, that's why, what they're trying to reconquer, right?
02:10:11 The the Spanish missions and stuff that are all throughout the the southwest and California that used to be Mexico, and then we fought for it, and we, you know, a lot of our ancestors fought in that war and died fighting that war, gained that territory, and, yeah, we're just giving it back. That's really what it is.
02:10:32 We're giving it back. And that's why, increasingly, like I said, it's just, I'm not America First at all. It's, it's, I'm white first. And if that means that I, you know, at some point have to go somewhere else. I don't, that's not my first choice. I really do feel tied to this land. I've been, my family's been here since before America existed. We've been, we were the first colonists. My family was the first, you know, some of the first colonists that came to America.
02:11:01 And so, yeah, I don't really have like a homeland anymore at this point. This is my homeland, but my family, my ancestors, left their homeland to go find somewhere better for their their family and their descendants. And if that's what it comes down to, that's what I'll do.
02:11:16 But I certainly I'm not going to sit around and fucking live in some increasingly shitty, brazilified Hell Hole. That's not what I'm going to do. I'll attempt to to stay here and and turn things around as long as I possibly can. But at a certain point, you know, if you got to, especially if you got to raise a family, you got to make decisions that are best for your family. I hope it ever comes to that.
02:11:41 And I'm open to, you know, like, especially because it seems like the same kind of scenario is unfolding in white countries everywhere. So like, where would you go, right? So that's why I'm open to doing, you know, like a white community somewhere, probably more more covert than arval is doing it to as a, you know, layer of protection.
02:12:03 But, yeah, I've absolutely been looking into that as of late, and I suspect that is going to be at least, if nothing else, that'll be a waypoint between me and some other destination, if that's what it gets, you know, if that's what it goes, gets down to, all right, so then we got Kurgan
02:12:34 over the last time that one plays kerkin says, Dev and I much enjoyed your appearance on arvals channel a few days ago. I know you're a busy man, but please continue to collaborations with like minded folk when possible. Wheat circles created by two English chaps, yep. And they say, lol. Faggots.
02:12:53 They might. I kind of wondered if they were, because they said they were two artists. So I think they might have been faggots, but I don't know. I don't know if they were just buddies, or if they were buddies, you know,
02:13:07 the art, the artist thing, kind of made me think, hmm, maybe it was just two faggots in a field, you know, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, it makes a lot more sense why these two guys are getting drunk and going out into a wheat field. You know what I mean?
02:13:18 Now, all of a sudden, all these trips to the wheat field at night, not so, uh, hard to understand, right? So I don't know if that's the case, but yeah, I did wonder. I did wonder that's not exactly something they would have mentioned in in 1990s so you know,
02:13:38 all right, we're over to rumble. Let's see.
02:13:43 Here, scroll. Here we go. Denise the CELT says, I hate Negroes and well, Denise the CELT, or Dennis, the one of the other, one of the two is trying to play the role of Negro spritzer here expresses their dislike of Negroes, Jews and Jeets. Then we got no long pork says, Congrats on your full on spur.
02:14:19 Got over your over the of the backlash today, I got to see this. Apparently, apparently, I got to see this. Yeah, I I got to see it. Hopefully, hopefully it's funny. Everyone seems to think it's pretty funny. So I'm too tired to watch the night. I'm not
02:14:38 gonna, I'm not one of these people where I'm, like, I'm actually, I really don't like it like, like, there's some people that they have to, Oh, someone was talking about me. I have to see it like, actually, I have purposely avoided it. In the past, I've been told someone so has has taught shit about you or said something you know.
02:14:59 Out you on their stream. And I purposely, like, they send me the clip.
02:15:03 I don't watch it because I don't, I don't want it to like, affect, you know, the way I view some of these people, you know. So I'm not going to be happy to look at this. Up until now, I thought we were like, you know, we were like, we were like, buddies, you know, up until this morning, at least fuck.
02:15:23 Then we got cabbage bandit with a big dono.
02:15:26 Money is power. Money is the only weapon that the Jew has to defend himself. Look how Jewy this fag is. You.
02:15:50 All right, cabbage bandit says, So, looking forward to the replay tomorrow. Thank you, Devon. Well, I appreciate that. And hello to you from the past. Hello to you in the future from the past. All right, then we got tomahawk.
02:16:19 Tomahawk says thanks for the advice on bees from last stream. I'll definitely be building swarm traps. My very first hive was from a wild swarm, but I didn't know what I was doing. It didn't end well for them. Well, you know, worst thing that can happen if it gets really bad for them?
02:16:36 Well, sometimes they just die, but they'll they'll swarm if it gets really bad. And also you got to keep in mind, I mean, they're bugs, you know, they're, I mean, look, it's easy to get emotionally attached to bees and, you know, kind of see them as being more intelligent than they because they are.
02:16:57 They're smart bugs, don't get me wrong. But like some people, they almost like, put personalities on them and stuff. And you're just like, they're kind of bugs, you know, they're kind of just bugs. They're kind of just like little nanobots. Their nature is little nanobots.
02:17:11 And it's like, if you're going to garden and you're going to kill some plants, you know, when you're first starting out. And I don't know that really, bees are much smarter than plants, like, maybe, I guess, a little bit. I mean, they've got some autonomy, but, you know, I think of it as just, it's a super organism, right?
02:17:32 So it's not like you're killing 1000s of bees, you're really just killing one. It's like, you know, it's like, it's, if you kill a tree, you're not killing all the leaves, it's all part of the tree, right? So it's, you just killed a tree.
02:17:45 So if you kill a hive, you just, you know, you just killed a hive. You didn't kill 50,000 bees or whatever, right? So, yeah, it happens. I, I don't think I've killed bees out of neglect or anything like that. But I've done splits that haven't worked out where they didn't really make it. So I guess, so I guess I've done it then Tom Hawk again says, gonna catch the replay. Have a lovely evening.
02:18:14 Well, thank you very much. I might have to do this. Everyone's cashing the replay these days. I might have to adjust the time. I have to adjust the time. I know there's a lot of people that are have been asking me to adjust the time. Well, maybe next year, maybe that's something we think about.
02:18:32 Next year we'll see Rupert says, There we go. Replay gang here. See you on Saturday, Professor stack, have a good night. Well, I appreciate that. Rupert, then we got noble savage says, Is it just me or do show of victims and alien abductee victims sound similar by how fantastical their claims are.
02:18:59 Anyways, thanks for the stream. Wish I could give more just me or show of victims and alien abductee victims sound similar in how fantastic their claims are, yeah, well, and probably for the same reason insanity, then we got Tom splats. Tom splat says, Hello, Professor stack. Replay. Everyone's Replay, replay. Crowd here. Are you familiar with Corey mailer of the stone choir.com? If so, would you consider a conversation with him? I think it would be fruitful for all white unity. I know you're talking about.
02:19:42 I talked to him. He's not gonna convert me. I mean, he's, he's like, I don't know if I'm right about, I think he was a Lutheran priest, but they kicked him out for being too pro white or something like that. I don't, I don't know. I but I know you're I know. I know of. I know who you're talking about.
02:20:02 Yeah, I would talk to him. Yeah, I don't have a problem. I just, the only thing I wouldn't want to do is I wouldn't want to get in these, you know, theological arguments, or not even arguments, like just these, these, you know, in the in the weeds, kind of discussions about stuff where it's just, like, you know, like, this might be cool for other people, just, you know, like, I'll talk to you about philosophy, you know, I'll talk to you about the philosophy of your religion, and, like, big picture stuff.
02:20:37 I just don't want to get in the weeds about, you know, this verse or that verse, or this interpretation or that, like, if you want to tell me
02:20:47 about your philosophy and how you've, you know, acclimated it to fit in, in white nationalism and everything I, you know, I guess I'd be curious to hear how that works for him, you Know,
02:21:01 because that is something that I look I've said, you can, there are Christians that are, that are pro white and,
02:21:09 you know, so he, I guess he's an example of that, and I'd be okay with that, you know, seeing how, how specifically he does it, right? But I don't want to get it. I don't want it to be like this religious lecture, you know what I mean? And look, I'm not saying that's what he would do. I've never, I've I think I've only seen him
02:21:30 on like Twitter, really. And I think I saw a part of him in a debate with someone at some point. I don't remember. It was a long time ago, so, yeah, uh, let's see here. Man of low moral fiber says no Nick Beaners and Negroes and Indians and Navajos are entitled to America as a birthright, and then you say he's a fag. Well, look like I said. Doesn't make any difference to me. Um,
02:22:01 me, it is what it is, if, if, if he wants to be a leader, that's not the way to go about it, though. And I, I have, I think I have reason to have these suspicions, especially at this point. I have a suspicion that if we hit the fast forward button, you know, a couple, I don't know how long really, actually, but into the future, the rhetoric will be much more accepting of racial pluralism. And that's just a red line for me. You know, it just is. I don't see why, how it's not for people.
02:22:50 Here we go. Memetic war fighter says Dave Riley is Jesus first. Never forget. No, he is um. But that's that's not unique to him. Uh, that's, that's really anyone who is a full on if you actually believe in Christianity like you believe, not like you believe, because it's trendy, not because you believe, because you want to have some kind of religious community in your life, not not, you know, fake it till you make it, but if you actually really believe this is the word of God, like, unquestioningly, and we already talked about faith, so it's not, it's no, I guess it's never 100% but like, if it's, you know, as close
02:23:34 as it gets, then you're going to be, that's The really, that's where the difference right? And look, that's the other component that always bothered me, if I'm being honest, like that was always something that I could I knew I would never be able to 100% get behind Nick, because he is always going to well. And look, there's people that say it's a grift for him.
02:23:58 I don't think that's impossible, but either way, if it is just all talk, if he wants to talk the talk, even if he's not going to walk the walk, necessarily, that means, you know, the universalism and everything else that comes along with that. So that was always a non starter for me in the beginning, right?
02:24:18 I knew. And look, he talks shit about Protestants. Like, look, he throws everyone on the bus. Like, he talks shit about white nationalists. He talks shit about white Protestants, you know, the people who literally created the country that he's now trying to claim is his, and the brown people's,
02:24:35 sorry, sorry, buddy. Like, that's, that's, you know, that's a that's not going to work for me. You know, it's not going to work for me. You talking shit about literally the people who founded this country, and you talking shit about poor white people, and you talking shit about literally anyone who's not a Catholic Mexican or whatever. What? Ever you know, because that's the thing, is quite, quite literally, he would have to say, I mean, I don't know how. I don't know how this, how he couldn't say this.
02:25:10 If you were to ask him, I don't know if he's ever been asked this, so maybe I'm wrong. But like, I think that if you were to ask him if he were to be religiously consistent, at least, if you were to say, hey, you know, and this, would, you know, Nick or Dave, would, would you if you could flip a switch tomorrow? And everyone in America turns Catholic, but they're Mexican and black, and I don't know, some kind of Asian, some kind of jungle Asian, or you flip the switch, you know? The other way.
02:25:40 No one's Catholic, but everyone's white. They would have to go the brown Catholic route, right? If they actually believe, I think Dave actually believes it. I think he's like, 100% drinks the Kool Aid. Nick, I'm not convinced 100% but, you know, let's say he does too.
02:25:57 They would have to, they would have to go and, look, that's a priorities thing. So I can never 100% get behind someone who is going to prioritize some kind of, you know, Pope, fan club over my people. That's just not going to work for me. Let's see here. Medic, war, fighter, or you just said that it's just rumble, doing its thing and repeating itself.
02:26:28 Man of low moral fiber says, CDA literally has a bronze statue of a suffragette, no joke, a literal monument to woman voting CDA. I'm not sure what CDA is. Gay as fuck. Every shop and restaurant has reject hate signs in the Windows downtown. Very sad. What is CDA?
02:26:54 Should I bother looking that up? What's gonna come up when I do CDA here?
02:27:04 Nothing that's obvious, unless it's the California Dental that you mean. The California Dental Association has a suffragette No, it's not cool. That's not cool. We got to put a stop to that. I don't think that's what you mean, but that's, that's what came up when I searched for CDA.
02:27:21 Randall flag says a Google self driving taxi ran over a beloved Bodega cat in San Francisco, which was widely publicized. Rumor was it was programmed to run over the cat to spare damage to the car, total, Clank or death. Um. How would it spare? Oh, you mean, like, because it, it wouldn't avoid it by hitting something else. I don't know. I feel like that'd be a tough thing to program, like,
02:27:52 kill the cat, spare, the spare the car. It might, it might be more of a kill the cat spare, veering off into the sidewalk where people could be. Or, you know what I mean, like, I don't know, but, yeah, I mean self driving. That's the thing. It's not just going to end it self driving cars.
02:28:08 That's how AI is going to be making life or death decisions in many ways, and in the same way that you should be suspicious of people that perhaps have religious beliefs that they might put above you as a people,
02:28:24 the people programming AI also have, I mean, a form, I guess you could say a form of, I don't know, it's really religious in nature, but it sort of is like they have a a worldview that is going to prioritize who dies and who lives, and it's not going to be limited to cats trying to cross the road, all right. Scroll, scroll, scroll.
02:28:47 Winged hussar says, I don't think America can be disentangled from the melting pot ideology that still exists in the minds of most Americans. It has to be a new nation state of some kind. Well, like I said, that's why I'm not America first. I'm whites first. And I suspect, I suspect, we will get a scenario where there is a there is a issue with keeping this country together.
02:29:30 Scroll, Randall Flagg says BYU had such a great football team last year, but their quarterback was Jewish. Really, that's weird. Somehow a synagogue opened up in Salt Lake City and a rabbi blessed the team. Turns out the quarterback raped a girl and was kicked out.
02:29:49 Well, look at that. Look at that. Mormons. Good job. Good job. Yeah, BYU, for those who don't know, BYU is Brigham. Young University. That's the the big Mormon school. Man of low moral fiber said, Oh, CDA is Coeur d'Alene? Okay, that's what it is. There you go.
02:30:13 Yeah. From all accounts, Coeur d'Alene is like, super cucked, despite the fact that it's, it's full of nationalists. So that's just the way that it is. Are we got a few more over here on entropy. Claude.
02:30:31 Claude says Nick Fuentes is compromised, his former friend and lieutenant in in his organization, who does his own streams, who broke away from the gripers, Jamie McNeil has dockets of info on how Fuentes and his people have connections to the Feds and unsavory actors and get up to bad things behind the scenes.
02:30:55 Well, look my and maybe I just haven't seen the same things, but again, it'd be, it'd be, look it. I know there's people that their natural inclination is to go into a log mode and and now, and maybe that's what some people were expecting me to do, right?
02:31:17 I'm gonna do a whole stream shooting on Nick. And now my whole life is going to be about how Nick is, Nick is a fed or whatever. I just don't care. And I and I see a lot of people, that's what it it becomes kind of their identity, that all they talk about is how they hate Nick, and that's just weird to me.
02:31:39 And I've never talked to Janet McNeil, and I don't know that that's how he is, but that's the impression I get from from what I've seen from him on Twitter and stuff that, that he seems like that's what he that's all he does now. And look, if you got stuff that you think people need to know, especially like, if you know, in terms of the Fed stuff, the Fed accusation, that's a big that's important.
02:32:08 You know, get that evidence out there. If it's if it's stuff that people need to know, I'm not saying you shouldn't do that. You absolutely should. If it's stuff that people need to know about the guy, then you should get it out there.
02:32:22 I just haven't seen like, like, that's been really like, oh, wow, that's crazy. So maybe I just haven't seen it or, or maybe there's a lot of people that I think that kind of hyperbolize some of the stuff. You know,
02:32:43 but yeah, look,
02:32:47 I'm sure that. Look, I'm sure that there's some stuff that's out there that I haven't seen. And so I don't know. Saxon says by Revolutionary War, I meant the Texas or Texan one, but yeah, the Latino invasion is reversing the US Mexican War as well. I don't see how the Latino question is not the main issue for white nationalists.
02:33:10 You're one of the few people who talk about Jeets and muzzies without ignoring the elephant in the room of Latino invasion. Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know that. I'm the only one that that that that mentions the fact that we have Mexicans.
02:33:26 I think most, even Maga people, bring that up well, I mean, these days it's kind of not as much, right? I guess, yeah. I mean, look, I don't understand it either. I think that that's
02:33:42 I don't want to say that it's kind of a done deal, but if I'm just being realistic, you got to look at the numbers. I mean, Texas is a perfect example. Texas has, I think, right? I think it's majority Mexican. Now, right?
02:33:57 So what are you gonna do about that? You know, that's kind of why it's over, like, when it comes to America, the fact that, you know, Texas used to be seen as like this, you know, this white boy stronghold, you know, like the, you know, the Dallas Cowboys and big trucks and all this stuff.
02:34:18 And it's really, it's just like the, most Mexican place on the planet. Now, you know, aside from Mexico,
02:34:25 and I'm not saying we can't turn that around ever, but the idea that you could turn that around politically, that's not possible. That's not possible. And so maybe that's why the people who focus on political solutions never bring it up, because for them, that it's not something they can solve politically. And so instead, they lean into the the the
02:34:52 reality of the situation by pandering to him, which is exactly what I was, you know, that's what I was wanting. That's what I asked Nick. That's what he meant.
02:35:00 And I, I suspect that's what he meant. Yeah, you know, if you're, if you're that Mexican Goblin griper That was, you know, viral on Twitter the other day that was going out celebrating the Muslim communist guy, you know, like, if that's, if that's that, if that's the future, you know, fuck that. I can't get I can't sign on that, or sign on board on that, or get on board. Then I'm tired. Guys, it's been a long day.
02:35:31 All right. Then we got Claude again. Says Josh Moon Kiwi farms and Matt at the Internet podcast. Guy has tons of info on the evil things that Fuentes and the groipers get up to.
02:35:44 He used to have a thing on his website called Catboy D conversion therapy, where the goal was to get people away from fuantes cult yet still be right wing and pro white. Yeah, it's unhealthy to be part of a cult of personality, whether it's Trump, whether it's Nick, whether it's, you know, any of these people, it's why I've never wanted to try to cultivate something like that, even, you know, to my detriment, in terms of, like, you know, like my career, or whatever you you know, like, if that's really what I was about, that's what I would be. It's not like, I don't know how to do it, but that's not what I do.
02:36:23 But there's lots of people that do it, and it's, it creates these situations where
02:36:31 it no longer is about any kind of principle. It's no longer about any kind of, you know, principled objective. It's, it's, it's about the whims of the cult leader at that point, and then you just kind of have to trust that they're going to be benign and not use that influence for self interest in a way that's going to harm their their cult members. I
02:36:53 mean, that's, that's the thing. It's, it's, you know, arval and I, we kind of joked around, about, or half joking, I guess, about the idea of creating a cult for the purposes of establishing, like, a white community. That's something we've talked about in the stream before, right?
02:37:12 And what that would entail exactly, in order for it to be legal and everything and and maybe even there's like, an element of that that involves, like, some kind of brotherhood, you know, like some kind of association that is interfaith, like, in a way, like, it's like a cult, but it's also, you know, it's not like a religion, you know, but it's more like a secret society, I guess, that that you can, you know,
02:37:38 you don't have to be, you know, like this, this particular kind of Christian or pagan or whatever. It could just be like this, we're white, you know, that's, that's, that's the thing. That's the requirement, oh, are you white and, like, not a shithead. Oh, then, then you can join our little thing here. Ah, yeah, so there is some use for that, but, yeah, that's how
02:37:57 people like Trump get elected. I mean, that's what happened with Trump. Happened with Trump. That's what's still going on with Trump. That's why people, literally people that were jumping up and down shouting for the release of the Epstein files for the like, the last eight years.
02:38:14 Some of them are still uncomfortable with that situation, but a lot of them aren't. A lot of them have kind of just gotten over it, and it's because deep down, they really was never based on any kind of principles or values system. It was all it was all about the you know about Trump.
02:38:37 It was never about America first. It was Trump first. All right, let's see here. We got Claude again, so they'd love to see you and Josh do a show together. He gets a few 1000 people watching on Maddie, not sure what that is, and as always, sad, he likes your work.
02:38:57 It'd be cool, a cool thing to see a big audience crossover, maybe academic agent or I hypocrite, can have you guys on Yeah. I mean, look, I don't want it again. I don't want it to turn into I just shoot on fault this all the time because he said I'm dead to him, like, I really don't care. Like, I really don't care. And I don't want it to be like, That's my thing.
02:39:21 Now, you know, so if it's not that I'm down with that, but, yeah, I'm way more than that. Okay, it doesn't, doesn't, it does not even, it's not even a blip in terms of of how I do things. It's not going to change how I do things, because if Brian, for all I knew, I was dead to him already, right? So it is what it is. Someone stole my bike. Says, Professor, hope all is well. A bit of a white pill I saw recently in. That for the first time in decades, there was no rap, hip hop song in the top 40. That's a positive.
02:40:10 I mean, it's kind of aiming low, but, oh, I guess it's a positive. I am genuinely surprised by that. I'd like to see what is in the top 40, though, you know, like, what's in the top 40, if it's not rep, should I even look? I don't think I would know any songs
02:40:31 top 40 song charts. What's the number one, number one song right now.
02:40:49 Latest charts, USA singles, top 40 now, it looks like Taylor Swift, that doesn't that's not really much better. I
02:41:03 these. I got Taylor Swift, Hunter X it's
02:41:11 like girl music is what it is. I don't know. I don't reckon, I don't recognize a lot of these names. Justin Bieber's on there,
02:41:23 but just going off the, you know, the little I, you know, the little avatar for these people, Hey, fuck Taylor Swift is like most of them. Taylor Swift is number one, number four, number six,
02:41:38 or wait, number one, number four, number eight, number nine, number 10, number 11, number 14, number 15. Her whole album is basically the top 40. And then there's just a bunch of people that look like they look like Taylor Swift, you know, like they're like Dollar Store Taylor Swift and a couple beta male looking dudes.
02:42:02 My God, My God, almost, I'd almost rather have rap songs than some of this shit.
02:42:10 Oh, wait now that Michael Jackson's Thriller is number 29 How is that fucking I don't know how that's possible, but that's what it's saying. Let me look at this. How is that? That right? That's what it says. That's the right date, Michael Jackson's Thriller is number number 29 that is bizarre to me, huh?
02:42:48 Anyway, all right, guys, well, I'm gonna go ahead and
02:42:53 shut her down. I don't know if that look, that's just, it's the top 40s charts.com. I don't know if that's like the real thing.
02:43:05 American Top 40 is this different? It's similar. Let me just see if they have Michael Jackson on here. Oh, this one doesn't have Michael Jackson, but it's still, it's full of Taylor Swift. Anyway, yeah, it just looks like a bunch of girl music. I guess that's who buys music because it's girls, because they don't know how to download stuff. All right, guys anyway, well, you guys all have a good rest of your evening.
02:43:35 I do have a couple of streams where I'm going to be on different shows coming up. Millennial is also coming up. I don't know the exact day. There we got. Got a few more on entropy. Here we got. Richard says boomers lived life on easy mode, but the Jewish media told them that actually, they actually lived life on hard mode, and that's why they should give all their money to plucky little underdog Israel, instead of the dreaded cupcake millennial children. Obviously, boomers should live life on Boomer must die mode.
02:44:14 Well, there you go. And then we got cat hugger says, Please set up that research help chat, where you ban everyone posting nonsense, but allow us to help with translations or research in general. Imagine just posting a question and we are better AI buddies.
02:44:35 Yeah, we might do that. We might do that at some point. We might do that at some point. I just, you know, I've, I'm, I'm, I'm still writing the book. I'm spent, I spent a lot of time on that today. That's a lot of what I was doing. And it's, it's, uh, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard to like, focus on, I.
02:45:00 Uh, on multiple things when you're when you're writing, you know, it's hard to, like, get out of that writer mode or and again, into it really. So that's been taking up a lot of my time. I'm really trying. I'm really trying to get it done. Guys, all right. Anyway, I hope you guys have a good rest of your evening. I'll be back here on Saturday. Same bad time, same bad channel
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