OUTLAWS： Episode 1, Skidmore - 03/03/2026

00:06:27 The You You Moo watching outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.
00:09:38 Hey, dude, can anything work properly? We're not streaming live on YouTube right now, but we will be. I'm going to post this stream when we are done. This is outlaws. I am Rebecca Hargraves
00:09:53 And I am Devon Stack, and we'll probably have a few technical issues. We haven't been able to. To to try this out till right now, so hopefully everything will be smooth. I've never, I've never had guests on on the Insomnia Stream, for those of you who are, who are fans of the Insomnia Stream, so that the whole technical side of setting up someone remotely, and then doing all that was a little bit of a a technical nightmare, but the nightmare is mostly over, and
00:10:26 just a little bit of a technical nightmare,
00:10:28 a little bit
00:10:29 YouTube, apparently, is not working right now, but we'll get that straightened out for next show. We're just happy that it's, it's live, and you can see us and hear us right now, so that's kind of a good thing. But yeah, so this is the, the new show we're going to be doing on Wednesdays, high noon, Pacific time every week. And I don't know, I think it's going to be, think it's gonna be kind of awesome. I'm looking forward to it.
00:10:59 Just kind of awesome, just kind of awesome. Well, Devon and I both love true crime, but we don't want to create another true crime podcast because there are 1000s. So we were like, What can we do? What can we talk about that's actually going to help white people? So we're going to talk about a lot of vigilante justice, things like that. It is not instructive. It's not well.
00:11:21 I mean, you can say that I don't know, but like, you know, it's also maybe, maybe a little I don't know. Maybe instructive is not the right word, inspiring. How about that? Inspiring? Inspiring. I like firing so. But also I want to, I want to thank Rebecca, because I was having, I was struggling, especially with because, you know, for those who don't know, I'm a beekeeper, and especially as spring rolls around, which in the desert is already, is right now, it's happening.
00:11:53 It's hard to do two late night shows every week, but then also get up early enough to where, you know, in the desert, meaning, like four or 5am to do beekeeping. And so I was going to move the Wednesday show to the daytime, or maybe not even do it anymore. And I was kind of, like, I was actually kind of leaning towards, like, not, not doing a Wednesday show, at least when I was doing the beekeeping, but, but Rebecca twisted my arm.
00:12:23 It's and, you know, just because of the way things sort of have worked out with her, she was like, hey, no, you should do a Wednesday show. Just do it earlier in the day. I'll help. You know, take off some of the the load and and do some of the prep work and make a little bit easier. So everyone can thank Rebecca here for for keeping it. It's not the, maybe it's not the Insomnia Stream, but it's, you know, it's, it's like, the the daytime version of it. It's the hungover stream. I don't know what
00:12:53 would we call it, right? Right? And I'm a huge Devon Stack fan, and so I was like, we're not going to be getting less Devon Stack. That's the important thing. Like, is our show going to impede Devon for making content that cannot happen, cannot happen. Also, I should note that this is not the reason that I left the backlash. I didn't have, like, another project in the works, and I, I jumped ship. That's, that's not what happened.
00:13:15 So, yeah, no. Like, I honestly, it just kind of worked out this way I was, I was trying to figure out what to do with Wednesdays. And then she freed up, and I was like, All right, maybe we will try it out. I guess, I guess
00:13:33 I Okay. I've been, I've been ragging on Devon for like, eight years, like, let's do a podcast. And he's like, I'm a Maverick, Maverick. So before we went live, Devon was working out some audio issues and the roller coaster of emotions that he was putting me through, like we were testing things out, and he's like, Oh, I got it. I'm a fucking genius. Oh no, this is never gonna work. Oh I'm so smart, oh I'm retarded. I'm so stressed out right now. So you guys might have to bear with us, but I think we us, but I think we got all the kinks worked out, except that this is not streaming on YouTube, but who cares about YouTube?
00:14:08 Yeah, and we'll get, again, the shows. The graphics are new. I worked on on this all weekend, and there's still, there's still a couple glitches and kinks here, but we'll get those smoothed out. And, yeah, I think I think you guys are going to like it. So anyway, I guess we should just jump right into it first.
00:14:27 Though, doesn't it feel unnatural to be talking about some evergreen topic with this Iran situation? I know you talked about it on Wednesday, but good Lord, has this administration failed more spectacularly than any of us had imagined,
00:14:41 I imagined it though.
00:14:45 I mean, yeah, I suppose this wasn't my 2026, predictions, but just we will do anything at the behest of the Jews. It's almost incredible.
00:14:53 Yeah, no. I mean, that's the and the thing that you know, as I talked about. On Saturday. It's the only thing that really bothers me, because prior to the election, I did tell people, Look, I can't support Trump, because it's going to be a lot of bad things and really no upside. And this is one of the bad things that you know that was inevitable. And yeah, the thing I really can't I'm losing my patience for these people trying to make excuses for Trump, like, Oh, he's being tricked by Netanyahu. Oh, he's being it's like, this is what they do.
00:15:27 This is what they do. Yeah, make excuses. Just, just admit he's he's shitty. He's a ghost. He's a goy slave. And, you know? And the other thing that bothers me, too, is people try to think that, you know, somehow they he's doing it against his will. You know, like, it's no, not blackmail, or it's, yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna release the the real Epstein files, or the golden pager is gonna explode in your pocket and and it doesn't. It's like, No, dude, his dad was giving money to Zionist terrorist organizations before most of us were born, okay.
00:16:05 And he grew up in a very Jewish part of New York, working side by side with Jews, as his dad built synagogues, you know? And he packed the Trump administration or organization before he was President, head to toe with Jews, and he got all kinds of awards from Jewish groups for decades.
00:16:27 He, I mean, he hosted Zionist dinners. His, his mentor was Roy Cohn, you know, like, I don't know how his his, his daughter married Jared Kushner. He couldn't get more Jewish. Like, he really couldn't get more Jewish. And so it shouldn't come as any any surprise. I mean, when Mark Levin
00:16:49 the most Jewish president,
00:16:52 yeah, when Mark Levin says you're the most or the first Jewish President in America, I mean, that should mean something. You know, that should mean something.
00:17:02 It was always this way. That's hard for people to swallow.
00:17:05 Yeah, so, you know, I kind of liked it that we're not going to maybe focus on that too much, because that's the other thing too, is, I feel like there is kind of a there's too much, there's too much of that stuff.
00:17:17 It's like, you go to the rumble front page, for example, and which is probably where you are, because YouTube's broken, right? If you go to the go to the rumble front page, it's like, every single, you know, it's like 50 streams about, like, what's going on with Iran, and what kind of excuses can we make for Trump?
00:17:36 And it's just, I don't know. I'd rather just, you know, just talk about something else.
00:17:43 So we're gonna talk about Ken McElroy. Yeah, bastard, yeah.
00:17:48 Well, and it's funny because, well, you'll see why here in a moment. When you first sent me over this, this, this guy that we had covered at first, I was like, wait, is he the good guy or the bad guy?
00:18:02 Kind of like a masculine outlaw thing, going, understand, yeah,
00:18:07 until I saw, like, how it concluded, I was like, I'm not sure, is this guy based, or is or is this? Like, no. And then I was like, Oh, now I get it. Okay, I see, I see why. I see why we're doing this. So we'll get into that. So I, I guess, if you want, I guess we could do a little quick intro into Ken McElroy. Is that how you say his name? Yeah, yeah. Ken, sure.
00:18:34 So he was this hick. He was born in northwest Missouri. I think he was one of like 14 children. He couldn't read or write, and he just terrorized Skidmore. They call him a rural terrorist.
00:18:48 So a lot of it was, like old timey stuff, like, like cattle theft, things like that, things that they used to summarily murder people over for good reason, because that's people, people's wealth, but he also was, you know, a child rapist. He had two attempted murder charges. He was just terrorizing this town.
00:19:08 But Skidmore, population 400 it was so easy to push jurors around and to push the marshal around, and he just owned, he just owned the town. And the townspeople were, were really sick of it. So this was the all of his mayhem was happening in the in the 60s and 70s, mostly. But I don't want to, yeah, let's
00:19:36 take a look. We got a clip 60 Minutes. Did a a special report in 1981
00:19:43 Yeah, morally safer world class Jew there.
00:19:48 Let's go there. So let's play a little bit of this clip here.
00:19:56 The terror most of us know is anonymous, a backstreet mugger, an herb. And guerrilla or even more anonymous, the threat of nuclear war. But what happens when the terror has a face on it, when it's one of our neighbors, a bully, the man who terrorized Skidmore, Missouri, was just that a bully who struck fear into the heart of a town, even the town Marshal was scared to take him on, a one man Reign of Terror in a town that just didn't know how to handle it. It would be hard to find a patch of America more rural than Northwestern Missouri.
00:20:27 The countryside here in nada Lake County is almost absurdly beautiful. It is America pastoral, untouched by Big City Ness, not outgoing with strangers, but good neighbors with each other. Less lovely than most of the county is the town of Skidmore. The population 437 is just about the same as it was in the census of 1880 only two paved streets, a few run down storefronts that look as if they've never seen better days, and not much more. There's no great history of violence or crime in this part of Missouri. The last murder anyone remembers in Skidmore happened 60 years ago.
00:21:12 I like the East Coast elitist attitude, as he's describing this place, this fucking hick town here, like 60 years, these assholes,
00:21:28 70 today in New York,
00:21:29 everything's all run down and shit fucking skid more, more like skid mark. So, yeah, it's, obviously, it's, you know, that's, that's kind of the the the town feel, I guess you could say, right? Yeah. So let's, here's our main man, right here? Yeah, this is, this is good old Ken. He looks like, it looks like kind of a unit. You know, it looks like a tough guy. Let's see what, uh, let's see what he's all about.
00:21:58 Every small town has a Ken McElroy only. He was worse than most. This was his home just out of town. He was 47 a big, burly man. There was an air about him that frightened people, and he did nothing to alter the effect. He bought and sold hunting dogs. Had an armory of guns and always a big wad of cash. Just about everyone in these parts feared McElroy.
00:22:23 See that this is why I was like, is he the good guy? I mean, he raises attack dogs and has like, an arsenal of guns, and he's kind of like, I know, I know everyone's like, afraid
00:22:35 of him. He has some boss qualities. I understand why you were confused. I was like, All right,
00:22:42 we'll see what. He wasn't the kind of a man that would fight another man out in the streets. He used a gun,
00:22:52 yeah, still kind of based, yeah, I'm gonna hold it against him. You know, he's using a gun the great equal
00:23:02 Wait, wait, it gets there. It gets there, and then there's a child rape angle.
00:23:06 Just That's true, that's true.
00:23:09 There's more to Ken Rex McElroy versus the town of Skidmore than just the story of a local bully and frightened townspeople. What it represents is a classic conflict of rights in a democratic society, the right that even the worst among us has to freely move about, and the right that a community has to be protected from the worst among us. In the case of McIlroy versus Skidmore, that conflict could not be more bitter.
00:23:36 Tell us more morally safer.
00:23:42 There's Romaine Henry's story. He's a farmer who says he was stopped on a country road by McIlroy who accused Henry of spying on him, and then
00:23:52 he said, Well, you're a lying sob and and when he said that, well then he more or less laid the barrel of that shotgun right against my stomach and pulled the trigger. And when he did, why? Of course, it laid my flesh all open and blew my flesh into this door here.
00:24:09 Another shot hit Henry in the face while the gunman was reloading, Henry managed to drive away. There was a trial. Two witnesses claimed McElroy was elsewhere at the time of the shooting, and he was found not guilty.
00:24:22 Okay, so the two, the two witnesses that were buddies with McElroy and this guy wasn't even spying, like these were false accusations. He just goes up to him, he's like, Were you spying on my property? Shoots them in the stomach and then in the face, oh, blow your belly off. And he did, and he did, and then he gets off. Nothing happens to him because two guys alibied him that they were just friends.
00:24:45 Yeah, well, it's a little crazy, because you would think that if, if, because here's something you always hear right when you always hear that, oh, you can't get a fair trial if you're in a small town and everyone. And everyone's heard about it, you know, they always want to relocate the trial somewhere out of town, or something like that, for some of these murders and stuff like that.
00:25:08 You would, you would think that in a case like this, if everyone knows about this guy, he's kind of an asshole, even though he's got these witnesses, if it goes to a jury or a judge that's aware of this guy, they would have done something. But apparently everyone was afraid of him, like even the, you know, the judge and the jury and I think some other people as well, you know members of law enforcement, as we'll see.
00:25:31 Yeah, how can you get witnesses to do that? Well,
00:25:36 I suppose that. I don't know, but I suppose probably money had a little something to do with it.
00:25:42 He told me last winter, when he shot the dirty son of a bitch that was Romaine Henry, he thought he had him shot deep enough that he'd die before he got home. He told you that. He told me that himself just last winter, and his brother,
00:25:59 why did you come forward?
00:26:02 What?
00:26:02 What for? Why should I tell that when, when they made such a fool out of the man that they shot?
00:26:14 Yeah, why would he come forward?
00:26:17 It's kind of pussy vibes though, really, you know, it's like, dude, he was gonna
00:26:24 get, he was gonna get his stomach blown out, and then nothing was gonna happen to Ken McElroy. I definitely would not come forward in that situation.
00:26:28 He looks like he could use his stomach blown out though. So he's definitely got that, that Missouri trucker hat, you know, body type going on, yeah, yeah. Anyway. So yeah, everyone's afraid people like this guy won't come forward. He's got witnesses paid off.
00:26:46 There was Ernest Bowen camp. He's a man of 71 who, along with his wife, Lois, operates the town grocery store. There was some bad blood between McIlroy and the Bowencamps over a piece of penny candy. One day, McElroy turned up at the loading bay behind the store where Mr. Bowencamp was sitting watching the world go by,
00:27:06 turned around while I was looking down the double barrel shotgun, and I
00:27:14 thought to myself, is he going to shoot, or is he just going to scare me? So I thought, if I was going to shoot, I better dodge over. So I dodged
00:27:22 over just in time he got my neck, and that's all that story, because I was out the rest of time.
00:27:30 Okay, so this guy's just going around blasting people with shotguns.
00:27:34 What happened here is that he had a bunch of kids with a bunch of different women, and one of his hit kids, by the way, live chat. I'm from Missouri. I can talk about Missouri like I understand, I understand everyone's like, Oh, they're doing this, hating on small town thing.
00:27:49 I didn't write this. This happened in northwest Missouri. These people are clearly Hicks. One of his derelict children stole some gum or something like that from the corner store. And they were like, Oh, your kid stole some gum, and then he shot this guy. That was it.
00:28:08 There's like, a bunch of little mini mcelroys running around these days. Oh, yeah. How many kids that he had?
00:28:14 I think he had 16 to 19, is what I read.
00:28:20 Yep, it's always the mcelroys having the kids. Yes, it is. So this is, oh, this is his woman, right?
00:28:29 This is his woman. And during this interview, she's 23 and he started picking her up from the middle. She's 23 right here. She's 23 right there. Yeah, when she was 12, he started getting into a relationship with her, and then he married her when she was 14 and pregnant. And it was not the first time that he did this.
00:28:51 Well, you know, as the gropers would say, it's not technically pedophilia,
00:28:56 not technically. Let's watch this one, and then I'll talk a little bit about the the child rape angle.
00:29:01 Okay, so this is, this is his, his ex. Well, I guess girlfriend.
00:29:07 I've known him all my life, besides the seven years I've been married with him, and he was never that way. He never caused no trouble with nobody. You know, he was a good man. What about the bone camps? I wasn't with him that day. You know, I couldn't answer for that. I do know a self defense.
00:29:26 His wife, Trina, is either his third or fourth wife. They began seeing each other 10 years ago.
00:29:32 I like how they don't know. I know they're like, it's either his third or fourth. It's hard to know with with Canada.
00:29:39 Ago, when she was 14, at 16, she accused him of rape.
00:29:45 Yes, he was charged with it, but it's not true. You brought the charge, yes, and it's not true. Why did you do it? Jealousy. I was jealous of ring, but it's not true. He never had he never had to do anything like that in the first place.
00:29:59 Yes, oh, okay, so her, I know, right, her family convinced her to file statutory rape charges because he was having sex with her when she was 12, and when she was 16, she did that, and then after he was murdered, because they were still married when this happened, and she was something of a menace herself.
00:30:15 She was like, No, he he never had to rape me because he had so many options anyway. This is from Fox Fox News, or something from back in the day, McElroy raped 12 year old girl, and to avoid statutory rape charges, he divorced his wife at the time and married her when she was 14 and pregnant with their baby.
00:30:32 He burned down. This is Trina's home, her family's home. Shot her family's dog to force her parents to agree to the marriage. He torched the home and shot the dog again. After Trina went into hiding with her and mcelroy's baby, she burned down their hug twice. He shot the dog, both dogs.
00:30:50 Yeah, two dogs. I'm kind of souring on him.
00:30:55 The child rape didn't do that for you, saying she she brought the rape charges, but it was statutory rape, so I think other people can bring those charges. Gotcha.
00:31:07 So he's he's on his third or fourth wife, who he's been having a relationship with since she was 12. How many kids does he
00:31:16 have with her? I think four.
00:31:18 Four.
00:31:19 He's got four kids. He's got 15, possibly others, running around, running amok somewhere. He is shooting the bellies off of guys. He's shooting dogs. He's burning houses down. Yeah, not not a good guy, not a great guy. And for some reason, they just can't get him locked up,
00:31:40 apart from that rape charge, McElroy had perhaps two dozen other felony charges in this and neighboring counties over the years, assault with a deadly weapon, molesting a minor, cattle rustling, hog wrestling, burglary, theft and on and on.
00:31:58 What was what's the molesting a minor thing. Is he also going around diddling kids
00:32:03 or, well, he had engaged in sexual conduct with multiple girls under 14. This wasn't the first time. I think his previous wife was in that age range. When things started, like most of his wives, he started getting to them when they were 12 to 14.
00:32:19 Gotcha. All right. He was only found guilty once. The lawyer who got him out of most of his grapes with the law was Richard McFadden of Kansas City,
00:32:31 Ken Rex McElroy was a perfect gentleman. He was a client. He sure needed a lawyer an awful lot. Yes, and I asked him about that, and he said, Well, it's a set of circumstances, he says, or they're trying to get me, they're harassing me.
00:32:44 I didn't do it, but he did have a reputation for violence.
00:32:48 He was known as the Jesse James of northwest Missouri.
00:32:51 I have heard him call the Jesse James of the north west part of Missouri. That is correct.
00:32:55 Well, he wasn't so he might not have been the perfect gentleman that you just said he was,
00:32:59 I say only in his relationship with me. He was a fearless type person, in other words, anybody say you can't go here, and it was his right to go, and it wasn't a judge or somebody telling him he couldn't do it. He would go if he wanted to go. But he was more than that.
00:33:15 He was more than just fearless. He was harassing people,
00:33:18 and you know, something I have never been able to verify these allegations that he was harassing anybody.
00:33:26 He didn't do nothing.
00:33:28 What a slimy fuck. This lawyer is not Jewish, though. Yeah, I
00:33:31 was a little surprised when they're like, Oh, here's a it's a mix something. I forget the last name, but
00:33:36 McFadden or something. Yeah,
00:33:39 I've never done that verifying these claims. He's just, you know, when the judge says he can't shoot the bill is off a mother focus. He just does anyway. He's just a wild man. So these are the towns folks. Lot of calories in this town. It looks like this guy on the left is the the preacher, the town preacher, and I think that's his wife to or maybe
00:34:05 no, she is the family of the shopkeeper that got shot.
00:34:11 They got blasted. Okay, so he goes interviews the town townsfolk, just like, What do you think about Ken McElroy?
00:34:20 Local preacher, Tim Warren, would disagree. He's a friend of Bowen camp, and just before mcelroy's trial for the shooting of earnest bone camp, Warren says, McElroy and Trina turned up at Warren's church armed with a machine gun.
00:34:35 I noticed that he and and Trina were out of the truck, and he had the machine gun out and in his hand, and I had a gun with me. I didn't want to use it, but if the man would put a clip in that gun, I would have used it Jack my family.
00:34:49 So, yeah, you got the preacher wanting to shoot you. You know, probably not, probably not the best guy bringing the. Machine gun into into play church. Little uncalled for, little uncalled for.
00:35:06 Just before the your husband's trial for the bone camp shooting, it turned up in town, convoy for trucks. Any one of those trucks was a submachine gun.
00:35:15 No, no.
00:35:17 What kind of weapons did you have?
00:35:19 We had shot guns and 20 twos and 410 stuff like that.
00:35:25 Definitely no machine lot of guns. Definitely not machine guns. That's not like a lot of guns.
00:35:31 What were they doing there? They were clearly there to intimidate the people.
00:35:34 Oh, yeah. It's not like they were, yeah. I mean, it's still a lot of like guys, not a lot of guns. If that's a lot of guns, I got a lot of guns.
00:35:46 The only real law enforcement is 12 miles away, and by the time the sheriff could get a car to Skidmore, McElroy would be gone. Most people felt that the legal system allowed McIlroy to get away with what amounted to a reign of terror.
00:36:02 You say the system allowed him to harass the town Mr. McElroy was working in within that system.
00:36:08 May not be the letter of the law, but the spirit of our law is that you, one is protected from men like like McElroy.
00:36:16 All right, you had the sheriff's department, you had the State Highway Patrol. You had at one time, you did have a marshal who's getting more Missouri.
00:36:23 Why didn't you have a Why don't you have a marshal?
00:36:24 Marshall resigned?
00:36:24 Why do you resign?
00:36:25 I do not know why he resigned.
00:36:28 You know darn well why he resigned.
00:36:30 He was not we are told, and I think you have been told as well. He resigned because Ken Rex McElroy put a gun in his head.
00:36:43 Up at the bar one night, he caught me coming outside and pulled a gun out and was holding it there, and he asked me if I was going to testify against him. I told him I'd have to go over because I was Marshal.
00:36:55 David Dunbar was Marshal, but for only six months he was to be a witness in the Boeing camp shooting after this encounter with McElroy, he quit the job and went into business wiring up houses for cable TV.
00:37:11 This like, no way he's the marshal for six months, and then I was like, cable guy. I can't that's See, a lot of this is cowardice, but I don't know here's, here's, well, I don't want to ruin this the end. But like, I feel like this in some ways, this is white behavior, where it's not necessarily cowardice, but it's it borders on.
00:37:35 It's like a border between tolerance, cowardice and and and just wanting things to just work themselves out, right? Like, I feel like that. That's something that plagues a lot of people. Where no one wants to be they don't want to upset the apple cart, they don't want to rock the boat.
00:37:53 They want to just, you know, everything's okay. So he comes into town and blows off someone's belly every once in a while, you know. So you try to shoot some guy in the face over a piece of candy, it spices things up a little bit. Where else am I going to buy my hunting dogs, right?
00:38:09 Like they let it go on for way too long, right?
00:38:14 And so I think some of this, it's, it's kind of, you know, a metaphor for, I think you know how whites are generally, where they just kind of let things go. Let things go. They let it get really bad. They let it get really, really bad. In fact, I did that video years ago on on office space. It's kind of like the same thing, right? Where the white people just go and they just take abuse and they take abuse and they take abuse and they take abuse and tell
00:38:40 he said that he would believe in killing a man that wanted to put him in the pen for the rest of his life.
00:38:45 Were you frightened of him that night?
00:38:47 Yeah, I sure was. Anytime you're looking at a gun, you don't know if he's gonna shoot you or what he's even thinking. He may have just been trying to scare me, but he did the job.
00:38:57 Every time I tried a case for all kinds of witnesses, I never could see anybody was intimidated, and the jury, 12 people, decided he was not guilty. That's our system.
00:39:06 Well, that's how intimidation works, is you never see people who've been intimidated.
00:39:10 You know, I never had any evidence of any intimidation. I had one man that said he shot me in the stomach. Here's a man.
00:39:19 Listen, I'm not doubting your talents as a good, great defense lawyer.
00:39:22 I didn't mean to give that impression.
00:39:35 Slimy bastard. Look at his face.
00:39:37 Yeah, he knows what he's doing. I fucking hate lawyers so much, so very, very much.
00:39:44 A year after shooting grocer Bowen camp, McElroy finally comes to trial. He is charged with first degree assault with a deadly weapon and faces a minimum of 10 years in prison and possibly up to life imprisonment. But the charge is reduced and. Is given only two years that experienced country lawyer Richard McFadden was proud of his defense and happily says that McElroy would probably serve only six or seven months.
00:40:11 What are the odds that she knows how to read? By the way, yeah, like,
00:40:15 low, pretty low. She's
00:40:17 like, like, he's he's not, like, giving legal advice so much. He's just reading out loud a letter, you know,
00:40:25 months his adversary was prosecutor David Baird, only three years out of law school, just months as prosecutors. They did that. We went.
00:40:35 Doesn't this guy look like the the nerd from 80s movies? There's a actor like from he looks like the guy in Groundhog's Day.
00:40:44 Groundhog Day, yeah, who's, who's also in Silicon Valley, he looks just like him.
00:40:49 Yeah, we're like every time he, you know, gets the water splat, or the insurance salesman. Yeah, that he looks exactly like that guy. He this guy's Jewish, though I think isn't he actor? Let me, let me see the name. I don't think he is,
00:41:03 six or seven months. His adversary was prosecutor David Baird.
00:41:08 Could be David something bear say, Baird, it sounds
00:41:15 what is that actor's name? I gotta look
00:41:18 it up now. Yeah, find it all. Ned Ryerson, yeah. Ned Ryerson, let me, let me pop that up. He looks exactly like he
00:41:25 looks so much like him. Steven tobolowski, Phil Ned Tobolowsky,
00:41:38 all these pictures of him Old. Where is he? Where is he in the 80s, round hog standing, yeah, okay, yeah, there it is. I'll bring this up here.
00:42:00 Okay, this looks exactly like him, right? He totally, yeah, that's exactly that's him. That's exactly him, All right, let's go
00:42:25 only three years out of law school, just months as prosecutors. They did that.
00:42:30 We went to trial. We received a felony conviction on the individual, and we had an order that he would go to state penitentiary.
00:42:30 Hold on a bit. Okay, two years,
00:42:37 two years, which might have been by the time he actually went to jail, what? Six months, six months, eight months, someplace along in there. But that's not something we have any control over. That's something the jury says.
00:42:48 Skidmore was outraged by what the town regarded as a slap on the wrist for such a brutal attack, and then further outraged when McElroy was freed on appeal after posting a $40,000 bond.
00:43:01 Well, it makes you wonder, like, were the judges in on this? I feel like every time they I mean, I get these intimidating the law enforcement, he's intimidating jurors. Probably he's intimidating the people. Is he intimidating the judges too? Or the is he paying them off. I mean, he's got
00:43:21 40 combination of both. He, yeah, he just has 40 grand. Apparently, he was, he was pretty wealthy well, and
00:43:27 this is 1970s 40 grand, by the way, guys, that's like, that's like 40 million today, yeah, or something like that. It's a lot.
00:43:37 Yeah, I couldn't find much evidence on whether or not he was intimidating judges, but I'm pretty sure he was
00:43:42 paying them off.
00:43:42 Skidmore felt, once again that McElroy had beaten the system. Then one day, along comes McElroy into the D and G tavern, followed by Trina, who's carrying a carbine and a bayonet. Allegedly, McElroy picks up both,
00:43:58 as you often do, right? Let's go to the bar, honey, make sure you grab the ER 15 and and you're baying it, yeah, and then the Mac 11 or whatever. Although I will say, you know, you live in a good part of the country when they have to put signs, I is it like this in Idaho, where you go into just like a, like a normal, you know, a grocery store or something like that, they have to have signs that say, don't bring your guns in.
00:44:29 I don't know. There's a restaurant around here where you get a discount if you're open carrying.
00:44:33 Oh, really. So around here, there are there. I mean, it's just, you can tell they just printed them up, you know, in the in the office, in the back, but outside, like the bars. It's not every building, but it's enough to let you know that there's obviously people walking around with guns everywhere, because they have to put these signs up, and it's like, Please don't bring your guns in here. And I don't know, I used to think that was based but now that you're talking about. People open carry inside of a bar. That's no big deal. Now, I feel like we're kind of losers out here.
00:45:05 Yeah, big losers. No. I mean, everybody just assumes that you're you're carrying around here. I mean, you can't go into a government building, but that's pretty much it the good old days.
00:45:15 He starts showing off and boasting that he's gonna finish off Mr. Bowencamp.
00:45:19 I wonder. Missouri's probably still like that, though, because I got family in rural Missouri, yeah, and I feel like it's probably still kind of like that there, or at least in the rural
00:45:28 parts, finish off Mr. Bowencamp. Now, if that happened, it was a clear violation of his bond arrangement, and a number of citizens signed a complaint to that effect, a hearing is called to see if his bond should be revoked. It is scheduled for July 10, 1981 The town also calls a meeting for July 10 at the American Legion hall to form a group to attend the bond revocation hearing. But word comes that the hearing has been postponed for 10 days they discuss how to protect the people who signed the complaint against McElroy announces mcelroy's in town.
00:46:06 He was able to forcefully postpone the bond hearing. McElroy was through a series of threats. So this is what really pissed off the town, because they had already signed this agreement about what they were going to do, and they're like, Oh, well, now all of us are going to get murdered because our names are on paper about this bond hearing. So this is when they really start to get worried.
00:46:27 Okay, so they Yeah, so they're trying to get him busted because he's walking around with guns, which is, I guess, a violation of his, his parole, or his whatever, yeah. And so now they're like, Oh, great. Now he's got a hit list. And so they all meet their names at the American Legion, and they're like, What are we gonna do about this fucker while he's well, he's while he's with his girlfriend and an automatic weapon at the bar,
00:46:54 drinking at the DNG bar, most of the people walk over to the bar.
00:46:59 We left the DNG and went to our pickup.
00:47:02 Look at that fancy bar,
00:47:07 the only bar in town, the DNG, the DNG.
00:47:10 What do you think the D and G stands for? Who knows? Come up with something, something funny. I got nothing.
00:47:22 And soon as we walked out the door, everybody else walked out the door behind us, and they gathered around on my side, over here on my passenger side, the track. He hadn't started the pickup yet, but we just sitting there, I looked at them to see what they was looking at and see if they want anything. And they were just staring.
00:47:44 So I happen to have, if you'd like to see it, a dramatization of of this. Would you like to see that? Or do you want to continue this? Okay, let's, let's watch it. Let's do it. So there is a, there is a reenactment
00:48:08 of this with like every 80s actor.
00:48:11 Oh, yeah. So let me see if I can. Where did I put that? So here they are at the American Legion to blow this up.
00:48:32 They're hanging out the American Legion, and they're like, We gotta do something about this Malcolm Royal. He's over at the DNG. And this music starts playing in the background. I
00:49:11 the cop leaves.
00:49:13 Where the hell the sheriff going? Someplace else looks like
00:49:19 That's right. He's going, that's true.
00:49:20 The sheriff got out of town.
00:49:32 That's that's supposed to be the blonde chick, his wife, and that's McIlroy. You
00:50:25 This is the part. This is the white behavior. When the patience is over, you've finally had enough of the abuse. I
00:50:51 Why don't you get out of town and stay out. Don't come back. Let's see tonight.
00:51:21 Pretty sweet truck.
00:51:38 McElroy, don't Run for no One you
00:51:40 I fucking based.
00:51:40 Yeah, So literally, the whole town killed him.
00:51:40 So that is exactly how it happened, and they pulled Trina out of the car so that she wouldn't be injured, which was a calculated decision that they had made at the Legion hall before they decided to do this, there was a group of 60 people. Probably, I've heard estimates between 12 and 90, and there's evidence that there were three to five shooters.
00:51:40 So, yeah, so basically, the white cup boiled over, you know, the whole, yeah, it's like the whole school shooter thing that happens, yeah, you just can't, yeah. You poke at him and poke at him and poke it in. The next thing you know, they, they show up to school the, you know, Molotov cocktails and ar 15. So, yeah, this is a that's what they did, is they, the whole town, blasted him. Here we go to
00:51:40 form a group to attend the Where did that part? High Noon in Skidmore, Missouri, on a hot, dusty day last July, there is a tension, a sense of showdown in the air.
00:51:40 I seen the man go across the street, go to his pickup, take the guy out, and I see him shoot.
00:51:40 A number of shots were fired. Exactly how many can't be determined. 15 minutes later, sheriff's deputies arrived to find the street empty and Ken Rex McElroy dead.
00:51:40 Pretty based. I like how they just all left. They
00:51:40 just good work. Everyone go home.
00:51:40 Yep, there may have been as many as a dozen people outside the D and G and around mcelroy's pickup at the time of the shooting, or there may have been as many as 50 or 60 people, and yet not a single person admits to seeing who fire the shots. No witnesses see.
00:51:40 That's, that's the the other based part. It's also kind of tells you, like, how much of a shit bag that guy was, yeah, is it like not even one person was, like, felt like any kind of, you know, crisis of conscience, where they're like, oh. Go, not like this, not like this.
00:51:40 Oh, we have to, we have to do things the legal way. No one, no one had that, that sense of of guilt at all, in fact. So this is the preacher. You think that if anyone would have an issue with with how this was carried out, it would be the preacher.
00:55:20 How come no witnesses.
00:55:25 Everybody died for cover, but
00:55:29 at least five shots fired,
00:55:30 depends who you talk to.
00:55:41 Yeah, five shots, yeah, more like five times five.
00:55:46 Are you surprised that there are no witnesses, no
00:55:53 Tim they all look very pleased with themselves.
00:55:56 They do Yeah, like little smirks.
00:56:00 They're just like, yeah, we done killed them. Had to happen.
00:56:07 Warren Lois and Ernest Bowen camp and romaine Henry, none of them were present at the shooting, and no one who was there, including the mayor of Skidmore, would talk to us. A grand jury was convened and came up with no indictment. A person or persons unknown, killed the man. Tell me something. Are you glad he's gone?
00:56:29 I would say we're all resting a lot better now, knowing that the man does not is not here.
00:56:38 Very diplomatic of you. Betty, I
00:56:41 know the preacher's actually less diplomatic.
00:56:46 It's It's good to see it's good to see
00:56:51 somebody and he's tried and he's found guilty. Would you feel that justice has been done?
00:56:57 No, no, because there was a whole town
00:57:01 hotel Well, it's not justice, though. Yeah, see, this goes back to, like, the vigilante justice stuff that, really, I think, is what made the world go round. This is something that I am actually concerned about more than you know. Like, for example, you look at the 1984 surveillance state that they have over in England, where they have the CCTV shit all over the place.
00:57:28 And that used to be something we didn't have to worry about quite as much in America. But now, with all these ring cameras, and with everyone with a camera on their phone, and with, you know, just the license plate cameras and everything else, not that I want criminals to get away.
00:57:48 And that's how they try to sell it to you, right? When they show you, like, Hey, look at these license plate cameras that we have at the side of the road. Now, when there's an Amber Alert or whatever, now we know where they are and and we can always catch the criminals, and that's okay.
00:58:03 That's good, I guess. But the problem is sometimes there needs to be extra judicial justice, like there needs to be vigilante justice. And in fact, all Americans kind of would agree with that.
00:58:15 If you look at especially during this time period, all the popular TV shows to one degree or another, what the focus was on vigilante justice, whether you're talking like the A team you know, which was literally a bunch of criminals running from the federal authorities going and doing vigilante justice, you know, or even just run of The Mill action movies where you know Rambo, same thing, right? Rambo is this guy who is wanted by the law, and he's, he's, I mean, he's killing cops like he's, he's, he's a vigilante to the extreme, right?
00:58:54 You have all these, all of these action heroes and all of these people that were, that were, I guess, masculine characters and film and television, they all had at least some hint of this. And this is something that really is, is, I think, necessary for a our society to run smoothly?
00:59:15 Well, yeah, it's, of course, it's a deterrent to the people in the community from acting like this, and now that there's so much law enforcement, and they're they're not enacting justice equally, then all of these cameras and everything and all this documentation that you're talking about, they're just using it to prevent us from defending ourselves.
00:59:37 So we really, you know, hoisted ourselves on our own petard with this. But this was a better time. I mean, I don't think that McIlroy thought that the town had it in them, right?
00:59:44 But, and that's but that's always the case, right? Like, if you're, if you look at these, these, the people that act up on the subway, like the black guy that got that got choked out, right? The reason why that's not happening more is precisely because people have camera. Is, and all it takes is some guy with with their phone shooting you, doing the vigilante justice. That really is what needs to happen.
01:00:08 And that's changed, right? Like, because it's and look, diversity has a lot to do with that too. Because if it was a subway full of of basically the people that live in this town, and you had some crazy black guy, you know, urine stained or psycho going around, harassing people, and some guy choked him out. They would have said, I didn't see nothing. And they would, you know, that would be it.
01:00:29 There would just be some dead guy on the floor of the that train car. And that's, that's really what we've lost. And they've been attacking this for, really, for decades. It started with, you know, think about all the different times, even in elementary school, where one of the big stains on American history was, like, the lynchings, right?
01:00:50 They would always talk about how, how horrible the lynchings were, because, you know, all these innocent people were always getting killed. It's like, No, probably not actually.
01:01:00 I got one of those teed up from scheduler right after this. We'll take a look
01:01:04 at that in a second. But yeah, the that's what that's really frustrating, is we've already lost that to a big degree, partially because the we don't have these close knit communities where people, I mean, like I just said a moment ago, there's, there's possibly 60 witnesses to this murder, and not a single one of them, you know, for any reason, was like, oh, yeah, well, we should do this the right way, or whatever.
01:01:27 No, like, everyone was just like, they were okay with the outcome, because that's what solved the problem and and that's what we've lost. We've lost that because of the demographic change. We've lost that because, even if you live in a white area.
01:01:41 Most people don't know their neighbors anymore, because there is, like, a sense of community. You know, our society is so mobile, you know, like, I mean, I've moved across the country several times chasing jobs. That's completely normal. And every time you start all over again, you know, it's you're not like in the same neighborhood that you grew up in.
01:02:02 You're not working side by side with some guy that you were in third grade with, you know, and so all those communal ties have been cut, and then you have the surveillance state, where you've got, unfortunately, the same kind of diversity are, those are the people who are doing the policing, and so it's and then take it even a step further.
01:02:24 Then if you get arrested and you go to court, who's on that jury? Is that really a jury of your peers, you know, like, if you get arrested, like Kyle Rittenhouse as an example, right? You can say that was a justified case of vigilante justice, or actually not even that, that was more just.
01:02:44 That was just self defense. Vigilante Justice would have been him going around, just blasting them, like, you know, for causing the riot. But if you had a case like that where he had some guy just go down shooting looters, or something like that, doing, really, quite frankly, what the law enforcement should be doing.
01:03:02 Or that guy that chased those people that stole his car a few months back, right? Those black kids stole this car? Yeah, right, right. He chased him down, shot him, and now he's going to jail for like, 40 years, or something like that. If you get caught by the police and then you have to go to trial.
01:03:19 The people in the in the jury booth, they have nothing in common with you. These you're not being judged by people that have the same values as you do. You're not being judged by people that have the same priorities or objectives, and in many cases, you're probably being judged by people who who hate you because you're white.
01:03:38 I mean, so this, this is what we've lost, guys, we've lost this ability to take care of problems like the Roy McElroy or the Ken mcelroys of the world.
01:03:49 And that's why the story is so heartwarming, because everybody got together and they decided that they had to protect the town. And it's not like it was a nice town, but it was their town, and they really felt like this is what needs to be done, and that's why they've been tight lipped about it for 40 years. You know, they've tried to to bring this case back up numerous times, and nobody has ever said a word,
01:04:12 I bet, like, some Jewish group has been, like, has thrown money at it, you know, like, yeah, like, the opposite of the Innocence Project, you know, let's, let's let's try to hunt down them hillbillies. Yeah, really.
01:04:27 You take McFadden, yeah, the lawyer, and you take the courts. It wasn't the town that killed McIlroy, it was them.
01:04:39 It's the way I feel for not locking him up.
01:04:41 Well, yes, what they did was worse than anything they can say about him. They went outside that system of justice, and they took the law in their own hands, in my opinion, and they decided they were going to get rid of
01:04:54 him, but he tried to murder multiple people, and he was using extra judicial means to get out of trouble all the time. Slimy ass lawyer.
01:05:02 Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the thing too. Is while, while simultaneously kneecapping the public's ability to use vigilante justice to defend themselves, that they are increasing the ability for criminals to use vigilante justice to to get what they want. So it's, a double whammy.
01:05:22 You want to know who did it?
01:05:24 No, no,
01:05:24 Would you
01:05:25 turn in the person who did it? If you had absolute proof they did it? No, absolutely not. Would you preach it?
01:05:36 No, I wouldn't.
01:05:42 Doesn't that bother your conscience a bit?
01:05:45 No, because there's a verse in the Old Testament that says, Whosoever sheddeth man's blood by man, so shall his blood be shed.
01:05:52 The murder of Ken Rex McElroy remains unsolved. In theory, the investigation continues, but as far as we can determine, there is very little hope of a break in the case. Trina McElroy, they say, has offered a $10,000 reward, but so far, no takers through lawyer McFadden, she signed a movie deal. Of course,
01:06:15 that was the movie we watched. Was it really I'm pretty sure that was. I don't know. I don't think she got that much money, though, because this was the, this is the production company. Look at this fancy intro here. It's like, you can't get more 80s in this, as you said, though, like every actor and is like the like every 80s actors in it. Look at that. Everyone knows malofilm.
01:06:42 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, part of me wants to feel some sympathy for her, because she was, you know, groomed from when she was 12. But like, like some of the Epstein victims that procured the girls, at a certain point, you become the perpetrator.
01:06:59 Like, at a certain age, you become the perpetrator too, and you need to extricate yourself from the situation. Be like, what was done to me was wrong, but you can't continue to to do the crime. And she stood by him. After his death, she profited off it, I think she made like, I don't know, 20 grand or something in a civil suit. And to this day, well, actually, she died in her 50s, but to the day that she died, she stood by him.
01:07:23 She died well, live fast, die young, I guess. Right. Yeah, sorry. So you had another case lined up here.
01:07:30 I did because I really wanted to highlight that there's a history of vigilante justice in the region. Now this is a town Marysville, which is it's about 1015, miles away from Skidmore. It's like the bigger town, I think it was population 5000 we don't have to watch this whole thing, because I think the clip is like five minutes long.
01:07:48 But this beautiful young school teacher who went to the school where she ended up teaching, she was teaching in a one room school house, school house gets brutally raped and murdered by a black guy, and then a lynching ensues. I don't know. Let's watch a little bit of this, and then we can talk about how he this guy totally did it.
01:08:13 Velma Coulter, the beautiful young teacher at the one room Garrett school house, was cherished by the town that raised her a lifelong resident of Maryville, Velma loved learning from an early age. After finishing college, she happily accepted a teaching position at her old elementary school.
01:08:32 But on December 16, 1931 when she didn't return by 6pm her caretaker went looking for her inside the darkened school, he discovered a horrifying scene. Velma lay lifeless, showing clear signs of a violent struggle. She had been beaten and her clothes were torn off her body blood. Allen searched the area, but turned up nothing.
01:08:58 Can you go to the next clip? It's 22 or 23
01:09:03 you want this all the way to this part? Um, because that's actually, no, yeah, you don't want to
01:09:09 go, sorry, buddy. Oh, did I just see an end bomb? There we go. That's good.
01:09:17 Let's get to the part where they find out, all right, so she's, she's so they find her, and then what is this part
01:09:23 in Frozen mud where he saw the man? It was
01:09:28 the shoe print. Now I'm confused. I fucked everything up. I'm sorry. All right,
01:09:33 came from a nearby teenage farm man. He had noticed a man lurking around the school for a clock during the afternoon near the school, investigators found a shoe print in Frozen mud where he saw the man they took a wax impression matched a shoe worn by a man named Raymond Gunn, a local black man already known to law enforcement.
01:09:56 Oh, there we go. Case closed. I. Black Yeah.
01:10:01 Footprint. Gunn's background was troubled. He had served four years in prison for an attempted rape of a white college student in
01:10:09 what black guy hasn't, you know, yeah. And also this the attempted rape before was also of a school teacher,
01:10:17 of course, in 1925 now, he was the prime suspect in velma's murder, word of guns,
01:10:24 and he confessed, apparently. And he confessed, yeah, okay, but let me guess this video is trying to say he's innocent. So, oh yeah.
01:10:33 It's called the the murder of innocent man.
01:10:37 Okay, so he's already raped a school teacher, his footprints there, and he confessed, okay,
01:10:43 fashion spread rapidly. Rumors of a lynch mob too cold in an attempt to prevent violence. Gun was secretly moved to nearby St
01:10:52 so, by the way, this is, this is always the case, because I've covered a couple of these lynchings in the past. It's always a like. Every time you go back and look at the original reporting, you get the old newspaper archives. It's always an obviously, because that's, that's the only thing that stirs up the anger in the public enough.
01:11:10 It's always an obviously he did it, kind of a situation, oh yeah. And it's usually not even just like an obviously he did it. It's an obviously he did it again, kind of like McElroy, and kind of like with this guy, right? It? And kind of like all these other cases that we've covered, it's like he's done it again.
01:11:30 The cops aren't doing the job, just like in the case of Ken McElroy, right? Because that's usually the case is law enforcement isn't doing their job. The people are suffering the consequences, and they finally get so fed up that they're willing to lay it all on the line. Because, look, it's not like that came without any risk to go try to lynch someone. I mean, you never knew, like, how that was going to turn out.
01:11:51 And yet, you get enough guys in town who have a lot to lose, who decide, You know what, fuck it. You know we're, we're gonna go and take this guy out, and they do it. And that's, that's, that's been the story every single lynching, and I mean, every single lynching that I've ever covered that has been the backstory.
01:12:11 It's exactly, yeah, black guy, or a team of black guys, or, you know, several black guys who have been committing crimes and terrorizing a town, and the town finally gets fed up in Lynch St Joseph, even
01:12:25 there a crowd of about 600 people gathered demanding he be handed over. The sheriff in St Joseph refused stationing police and firefighters to guard the jail
01:12:38 See, and that's another that always happens to, like, I covered a couple lynchings where, that's usually how it starts, right? Is they're not there. They're so pissed off that the cops aren't doing their job. The cops finally get the guy, and then the town just, like, just, just come on, just, just give us the guy. Hand them over. We'll take care of this. You guys are in over your heads. Obviously, yeah, and that is one thing that
01:13:04 happened in Skidmore, yeah, in Skidmore, they sent the sheriff out of the town. They were like, Get out of here. We're gonna kill this guy. And the sheriff was like, Okay, see
01:13:12 ya jail. Twice. Mobs tried to seize Gunn, but they failed. For lack of a plan and leadership, he was transferred to Kansas City, Negro Slayer.
01:13:22 What's too bad that sounds like cool until you know they don't mean that he's a negro Slayer. He's a negro Slayer. You know, because at first you see that you're like Negro Slayer. To Kansas City, you're like, All right, let's go to Kansas City hang out with Negro Slayer. He's a negro Slayer. Wow.
01:13:50 The Press fed the public outrage the month after velma's death, her name appeared in newspapers nearly 4000 times more often than Babe Ruth or Franklin Roosevelt. Oh no, sensational and biased stories stoked too.
01:14:06 They always get mad, like, like, like, they act as if the fact that it got media coverage, see, and maybe that's that. Maybe that's really the key, right? Maybe that's one of the reasons why we stopped having vigilante justice. Was because the media got taken over by Jews who stopped reporting on the race of the perpetrators.
01:14:23 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean, just the fact that this was such an outrageous crime and it was widely reported on, is not evidence of innocence. That's so retarded, right?
01:14:34 No, it's, it's evidence that people were like, fucking pissed off, and with this stuff,
01:14:40 one newspaper alleged for after clubbing the
01:14:43 young woman. Hold on, hold on. I like how the newspaper reporting that he that he raped a woman is also evidence that he's innocent. Yeah, says here Negroes around Maryville shake their heads on gun the fact that he had been previously convicted.
01:15:00 And done time on a charge of attempted rape, played against him all the way through and and the crime which, this must be a black newspaper. No, seriously, what are you saying? You read these old black newspapers, and it's like it's written like black people talk. It's kind of funny, attempted rape, blah, blah, blah through crime, which she ex expiated. Expiated. Expiated. I don't know
01:15:26 what that miserable life was so revolting as to cause every Negro to hang his head in shape. You're totally right for after clubbing the young woman into insensibility conditions of her person, revealed that only by the resort to the use of a knife was he able to satisfy his brutish passion?
01:15:43 Clearly, that's, that's evidence that he's he's not guilty, yeah, really, because the newspaper accurately reported it, brutish passion.
01:15:52 Gunn's arraignment was scheduled for January 12 in Maryville, anticipating violence. Governor Henry's Caulfield sent 60 National Guardsmen to back up local authorities yet tension
01:16:06 send 60 men to like stop the the Negro rape that was going on. Yeah, high
01:16:11 hotels were fully booked and strangers roamed Maryville streets strikingly Maryville, a town of about 5000 had long claimed good race relations for over 20 years, local white residents organized an annual emancipation celebration for black citizens. But all that goodwill disintegrated under the looming threat of mob violence prominent black leaders, including Dr Crossland and rev Gordon telegraphed Governor Caulfield begged the governor
01:16:44 for more. Yeah, okay, that's evidence. What is this?
01:16:49 Whichever the case, the National Guardsmen waited idly at the armory, never called upon. Gunn was stripped of his clothes and forced to march two and a half miles to the Garrett school, facing a frenzied crowd, he was made to climb a ladder to the roof where he was chained to the rafters. Some claim he confessed, though such confessions were often forced under extreme arrest.
01:17:14 Wait, wait, they made a mistake here. What they actually did is they this is the schoolhouse where she was murdered, by the way, but they cut a hole in the top and then jammed his body halfway down and then chained him, and then they light it on fire. Isn't that awesome?
01:17:32 Wait, hold on, they burnt. But why would they burn down the school? It's perfectly good school. She got murdered in there. I guess you don't want to go to go to murder school. No, you don't. Yes, that's true. I guess that's true. You really can't have Negro murder school.
01:17:48 You know, it is kind of tainted. It's kind of Unhallowed ground at that point. All right, I guess, oh yeah, I see it. I understand that. That's pretty artistic, though. You know, people say that beautiful, yeah, elegant, like, I'd like to know how long that took, because they just sitting there while they're like, sawing a hole in the roof.
01:18:10 So they might have been ready, ready for him. Isn't that the most elegant lynching strategy you've ever heard?
01:18:16 Wait, did they pre cut the hole? Maybe, maybe there are a bob cut the hole in the roof. I got this idea. Like, who had that idea? By the way, I got this idea. We cut a hole in the roof, right? And then we get the Negro Slayer, and we stick them in the roof. Yeah, really, why don't we stick them in there? No, no. Hold on.
01:18:39 Wait, wait. Wait for it. Wait for it. So he's in the roof, kind of, in the roof, yeah, like, like, a, like, like a, like, a few, like, a wick on a candle, you know, kind of, and then we light the building on fire. Ah, see, I was, I was, I didn't get where you're going with this. Tell the light the building on fire part, yeah, but now I understand and see that's that's pretty, that is pretty hard.
01:19:05 Oh, wait, I'm just, I'm just seeing it now, in my, in my mind's eye, that they lit it from the bottom, I was thinking that they like burned his head like a candle.
01:19:21 But here's the other. Is top half like, sticking out of the like, is his head sticking out?
01:19:27 His head sticking out right? They wouldn't light his head on fire. That wouldn't work at all.
01:19:32 Well, I just wonder, like, if his feet were sticking out, like he had fallen out of the sky and like a cartoon, and like, hit the roof, you know? And so you'd see his, like, feet kicking around, or, or is it just like his head sticking out? Like, he's, like, he is the house,
01:19:51 or, Oh yeah, like he's stuck in quicksand. He's, like, it would
01:19:54 have been, you know, what would have been more artistic? See, if I was there, I would have been like, all right, I like this idea. Bob. I like the his head sticking out of the school, but we should also make these big paper mache black arms that stick out on either side, so it looks like he is the school house. I love it, right? It'll be awesome. And then we can rig it up to where, like, we can pull these ropes so like his arms, like go, you know, as as it burns, why
01:20:22 is why are our videos not up? I'm laughing so hard I'm crying.
01:20:25 Okay, well, I could pop it up. I, in fact, I have to. So it's gonna play the intro for a second because I screwed up. So get ready for it. Watching outlaws, that's right, that's what you're watching. Rebecca Hargraves, all right.
01:20:41 There it is, there it is.
01:20:44 That would be nice, right, to have, like the see that if I was there, it would have been, I think it would have been
01:20:53 more fun. No, you should face dogs. JK, don't do that. But this guy absolutely did it. And while he was in custody. He was like, it was the southern nigga. He just, like, blamed some other black guy who was alibied by a bunch of white people, so it definitely wasn't him. And then they had the footprint match, and they had an eyewitness account, because he had been hanging around the building for days. I mean, that's about as as good as it gets in 19 what was this?
01:21:22 1925 Yeah, no, he got
01:21:26 released in 1928 so early 30s. That's when this was, but, I mean, from, from, from back in the day, that's a lot of evidence. It was very obvious that he did it, and he had a history of attempted rape on a white young teacher. So, you know, the town was like, like, come on, is this guy gonna get off? And then they took matters into their own hands, and they did, they did what needed doing
01:21:49 well, and that's, that's what you can accomplish when everyone doesn't have a camera in their pocket, yeah, although I kind of wish they had, now that I know about the head sticking out of the building, you know, I feel like that would have been a funny video to watch.
01:22:02 I know when we wake up, you get on Twitter and you just see this amazing lynching. Like, Oh, finally, I don't have to watch videos of Iran. I hope these were feel good stories for everybody, because they made me feel good. They made me feel like America, at some point, really meant something, and that's something that I've lost. You know, like, I know you talk a lot about how America was never that awesome, at least not in the 50s, and I think you're right about that, but there was a time where people handled their business, and I want to get back
01:22:37 to that. Well, honestly, what it is, it's, it's regional. And I feel like, the further away you get from the central government, the more you see this kind of stuff going on, right? Like, I feel like, you know, that's why in the old west there was Old West justice was very similar, you know, you still a horse. They string you up. You know, it's not like some long, drawn out process. It's like, you do the crime, you know, you do time the next day.
01:23:04 There's a, there's a couple of, if you ever go travel around the southwest and check out, like the old ghost towns, you know, go to like, Yuma and stuff like that. Like, I went to this one town where they had this big tree. And I forget what they called it, but it was, it was the tree they used to chain people to that were, that were problems. And so it was just like, it was like, the chain tree.
01:23:28 I don't know what it's called, but, like, they didn't have a jail, so they would just chain you up to this tree. And that was, that was, that was how the town would deal with you. And there was no, like, you know, process. It was just like, alright, chain them to the tree.
01:23:41 Yep, see what we could accomplish when Jewish judges and attorneys and just the Jewish bureaucracy is not lording over all of us.
01:23:52 Yeah, one of these days, one of these days, we can return to that.
01:23:56 Well, the McIlroy story is is uplifting, because that town really took a lot. They took a lot until they were like, we're not doing this anymore. And I think that it's symbolic of white people in general, when they really feel like there are no other options. Then they get organized and they figure it out, and then everybody shuts their mouth like
01:24:16 there's a black guy with his head sticking out of the top of a schoolhouse that's on fire. I mean, seriously, that's, that is kind of, that's kind of how it works. I guess if there's a white pill in all this, it's that, especially in the case of the McElroy case. I mean, they really, they put up with a lot, like a lot, before they snapped.
01:24:41 And I kind of feel like that's, that's, it's a blessing and a curse that is kind of like the the white person way, where you put up with a lot and a lot and a lot and but there is, it's good to know that there is, eventually, there is a breaking point, you know, there is a point in which people are like, yeah, no, no, we're just gonna. Just gonna shoot him in his truck. How about that? Yeah, that'll fix it.
01:25:04 Yeah, yeah. And the way they did it, it was a it was gentlemanly. They they pulled her out of the car. They make sure that she that she didn't get accidentally shot, although she probably had deserved it at that point. But they were like, we're gonna get the person that's perpetrating these crimes.
01:25:20 We're not going to have any other casualties. This is going to be cut and dry. And then they did it. And, you know, it's, it's really admirable. It was very sensible. They really dealt with it like, like, upstanding white people.
01:25:33 Very inspirational, as I said in the stream, very so inspirational. So, oh, go ahead. Oh go ahead. Oh no, go ahead. Go ahead. I was gonna say what I gotta do, because now I'm realizing the the other graphic here, it is kind of lame that that we're not on there.
01:25:51 You know that it's just like this screen, so I gotta pop you in the corner and me in the corner of this, this graphic here, so it's not just they're hearing our voices or whatever. Oh, right, yeah, because you went through all the trouble of, like, putting your makeup on and stuff, and then you're, like, not on camera for most of the time,
01:26:11 which Devon actually saw today when we were, when we were working some things out with the audio, got to see the sausage get made. Um, the other thing I'm seeing in the live chat, like, oh, is this just blonde comment commenting on the Insomnia Stream.
01:26:23 You know, developing this show is going to take some time. I need everybody to be a little bit patient. We're not going to talk about crimes like this every week. It's not going to be exclusive to vigilante justice, but in those first few episodes, we really want to get the tone and
01:26:40 the topic, and did all the research. I didn't do, you know that I didn't do any of this. So it's not like I came up with the idea, and she's just commenting on it, you know, she's
01:26:51 no but there is, there is a point there, like I am concerned about us, you know, not just being the Insomnia Stream. So, you know, just give us some time. These things always develop organically. And after my last show, and the show before it, I just want to let things kind of come together organically. And it's going to take a few episodes, and we're going to have some tech problems and and things like that.
01:27:15 But, you know, I really want to get into some financial crimes and how people are able to keep money in their family through nepotism, and how they've been able to do that, why they got caught, how not to get caught. I want to talk about that. We have a lot. We have a good jumping off point. But I thought this was a good first story, because it's a huge white pill.
01:27:36 So, yeah, we should talk about like, how not to get caught. That's actually, that's actually a good angle talk about how, or maybe even like ways. Well, it'd be a fine line we'd have to ride. But I think that there's, there are some topics there, definitely,
01:27:55 yeah, yeah. So, so let us hammer down the message of the show, the theme and everything like that, and then we can branch out a little bit and do some more stuff that is a little bit wider in scope. So, but hang in there, guys, it'll get better every week.
01:28:12 Well, it can't get worse. Oh, I was so like, you guys understand, like, we we had like, these audio technical issues right before we went live. And I was like, oh, fuck this. Hope this works. But everything, everything works mostly smoothly. I forgot to turn off the the opener, which I knew I was gonna do that too. I knew I was gonna do that.
01:28:35 Well, not streaming on YouTube's a bummer. That's well,
01:28:38 yeah, we got to figure out why that didn't work. That's why you were looking at those color bars for so long as we were back here. Like, why is it not working? Yeah, we'll get that straightened out. We'll get on YouTube.
01:28:48 Something always goes wrong. Like, you just have to expect the first episode. If it gets done, you should be pretty happy. So, yeah,
01:28:55 I think you know, for the most part, there weren't a whole lot of technical issues. I was I was not confident about that. But, no, it was good. It was good. And your videos have been coming fine. You know, everything looks like and you can hear everything which was the issue, and
01:29:11 the graphics look great. You did such a great job.
01:29:14 There's one tiny hiccup, like, in fact, we're coming up on it the background, it glitches for like, a frame. And I got to figure out why that's I'm the only one that maybe that's going to notice that, and now everyone's gonna, I mean, I probably shouldn't
01:29:25 have said anything. Why did you say something? No one ever would have noticed that in a million
01:29:29 years, there's this one little glitch from, like, Ah, I hate that, and so I'll make it smooth. And there's a couple other little things that probably only I'm noticing that I'm gonna, I'm gonna smooth out and fix. But, yeah, I think for the most part, it looks cool. We got, we got, like, rock star names under our TVs.
01:29:48 No, I love it. This is so cool. It's such an honor to be working, like, with these incredible graphics.
01:29:55 Well, I thought we, you know, go big or go home, right? We don't want to just do so. Like shitty podcast. We're sitting at a table in someone's living room. You know what I mean?
01:30:08 I understand. I know what you're talking about. I know it's hard to let that one go. That show was my baby. But on to better and brighter things. We are setting up some more options for donations. Our subscribe starts under review, so you can't do that right now.
01:30:25 We're just using Devon's Odysee, entropy and rumble rants, but next week, we can do super chats on my YouTube channel, PayPal slash blonde in the belly of the beast also, and we will distribute that to Devon, even though they're sending it
01:30:40 to me. So, all right, and so you, I guess we should do super chats, or you want to do that, or Sure, all right, well, I guess first we'll go to we'll go to entropy. We got some big donuts on entropy. Actually got some pretty, pretty, pretty good, good support here, guys. I appreciate that we so we have Odysee viewer, Odysee viewer. And I don't have maybe I should do a little.
01:31:10 I don't know if we should do make him as obnoxious as the Insomnia Stream, or maybe not even do them at all. But on the Insomnia Stream, I play little animations. But the for donors, I have not made anything like that for this. Maybe we don't do it, maybe we do it, I don't know. Maybe we'll hear, we'll get fee, I'm sure we'll get feedback for you know, in the comments and stuff like that.
01:31:29 From this Odysee viewer says, All the best guys, and I really appreciate that. Odysee viewers, that's, uh, that's really generous of you. And then we have Beach Boys. Beach Boys, who's always very generous, also very generous, and says, Thank you for saving the Wednesday show. Rebecca, we all want as much stack as possible. Great show guys, looking forward to many more.
01:31:57 You know, I hate to glaze you, Devon, because it makes it seem like we're not peers, but you really are the only person that has,
01:32:05 Oh, you thought we were peers.
01:32:09 I should, at least, I should at least act like we're peers, right? I can't be fan girling all the time. I can't it's, it's too demeaning, but you were the only person that's withstood like the cycle of alternative media, everybody else has been so disappointing. So please don't disappoint me, or I'm gonna have to commit harikari.
01:32:28 I think, no, I think that. I think we're on the same wavelength and a lot a lot of things, and that's usually the issue, right? Like, it seems like you go and work for people who are like, married to Jews, and who are kind of Jewish themselves, you know, like, so it just, you know, it's, it's, it's difficult. It's difficult to find, unfortunately, which is weird to say, right it's weird that the the right wing is the the extreme right wing that we're apparently a part of is so not extreme so often.
01:33:03 I saw a comment that said, which I think sums it up. Said, finally, Rebecca will be on a podcast where she's not the one, or where she's the one with the most estrogen.
01:33:17 Well, I have this problem with when I work with people thinking that these, these massive flaws, I'm like, it'll work itself out, or I could handle that, or I can manage this. And it really is, you know, my own fault. But the thing with Matt that that was a problem that developed over many years. I mean, we did that podcast together for
01:33:36 10 years. Yeah, we well, yeah, we all evolve in our politics and yeah, stuff like, yeah, I get that, yeah. All right. We got kergan, kergan 86 with a big Dono. Like, this weird in my head, it starts playing Dave on Rebecca. I can't tell how excited I am to see the two of you working together.
01:34:04 I'll be enjoying this podcast as I chow down on a nice plate of dirt meat with a glass of well, we're not on YouTube, so I can say it nigger gin. Take care. You two faggots. Thank you so much. I don't have my faggots button either, because it's a different show. Well, we'll have our own things. We'll come up with our own little things. I'm sure. Maybe we should have a McElroy button or something. I know, right?
01:34:27 Do you know what somebody just said in the rumble chat? Get in the roof hole.
01:34:35 There we go. See it's happening. Getting the roof hole. All right. Then we got well. Thank you very much. Kerrigan, 86 that was very, very generous. Then we got Dusty. Dusty says, Thanks for the new show. Well, I appreciate that. That's nice of you dusty. And then we got Fashi. 88 says, if you want. Another story.
01:35:01 There is a more recent story from 2021 that caused a bunch of attention in the Amish Mennonite community of a black person raping a white Amish lady. His name was justo smoker. May want to I'll tell you what. I'll send that to you. Justo smoker, I'll send that to you in chat. DM that to you. Thanks.
01:35:30 Thank you very much. Fashion 88 then we got FUBAR nation. FUBAR nation says, great to finally catch a live show at Eastern Standard hour. There you go. See, that's the thing too. There's, I know there's some people that don't like the time change because they won't be able to catch it live.
01:35:48 But you have to understand, there are so many people that don't want to stay up till three in the morning, believe it or not, yeah, to watch my show. But and also, you got to realize too, we're worldwide, and so this is, it's, it's like, it really, it's like a 12 hour difference, well, not quite 12 hours, but it's like, you know, it's, it's anyone that can't catch the Insomnia Stream because it's like some wacky time for them.
01:36:13 This would work out, although there's probably people that where it's both, like, if you have a job, this is probably
01:36:20 my best time slot. But a lot of people listen to podcasts on the job. Oh, I heard about this Amish murder. This was so bad. This guy's mystery meat. Is he black?
01:36:29 What the just Oh, smoker guy, yeah.
01:36:33 Oh, this was an awful story. Yeah, she was raped and murdered.
01:36:40 Look into that one. All right, then we got Reinhardt with a giant Christmas dono, big old Christmas. Don't know there. Reinhardt says, as whites build our parallel society, here are here there. I think the here doesn't need to be there. There will be, man, your wording screwed me all up, right, aren't I forgive you. As whites build art.
01:37:12 No wait, maybe I just screwed up. As whites build our parallel society here, comma, that's what you're missing. There will time. That we will only be able to protect them extra judicially. Let this be a lesson we carry forward for generations. And that's the thing too.
01:37:34 And I was wondering too, because I, part of me is kind of like, oh well, you know the ring camera stuff, the camera thing causes a problem, but at the same time, maybe, maybe vigilante justice just needs to evolve. Also maybe that just needs to become more sophisticated, you know.
01:37:51 And we can do that. Yeah, it just means you can't just go the old fashioned way. But like, why, you know, why shouldn't we also evolve, you know? So maybe this is just a pressure on us to be more creative than just drilling a hole in the top of a schoolhouse.
01:38:06 Yeah, thank you. Reinhardt. Reinhardt is so cool. I don't know if you've talked to him before.
01:38:12 I recognize the name. I feel like Reinhardt's been on the inside or, you know, been to the Insomnia Stream before.
01:38:19 Oh yeah, he's one of the few people that I know in real life. He's just the best. So is his wife Awesome?
01:38:27 All right, now we got gorilla hands. Also a regular says, Welcome to the pillbox family, Rebecca. Devon, I hate to keep pestering you, but could you check entropy before Saturday night stream for some big donors. Yeah, in fact, so yeah, I will check that out grill hands.
01:38:46 But I totally get why. You know, if you donate and it doesn't get read, you should say something. I'm gonna have a call with the entropy people soon and let them know kind of what, what you know, let them know what it's doing and what I'd like to see to have it fixed.
01:39:04 And I and they actually sound pretty open to making a change. So I don't know how difficult it is on their end to do, I don't think it will will be just based on, it's not like a major, you know, change that I think needs to be done. All I want is for like the the chats to never leave this screen, unless I dismiss them, and if they make that change, which hopefully they will, then that'll not be a problem, but not a problem at all.
01:39:37 Gorilla hands, Reinhardt, another, another generous donation. Says here comma, so he has fixed his, his comment so or Yeah, I appreciate that. Reinhardt, all right, so that that's entropy, and we're gonna go over to rumble. I'm.
01:40:00 Oh and oh, we got a bunch on rumble too, yay. Let me
01:40:18 give someone mod. How do I do that? Do I do it that way? Here we go. How do i mod him? I'll tell you what. I'll do that after the show, but I gotta unpin this so I can see underneath it. So, but yeah, we got, let me paste that in my notes so I don't forget, actually, just to be on the safe side. All right, we're good. All right.
01:40:53 We have the supreme Rabbi Satan who says shalom, goyim. Well, I appreciate that. Then we have Fannie Schrute says, Oh slash. And then we've got glam Dring says, Congrats on the epic team up. Hope this leads to big things. I'm so excited. It's gonna lead to big things. We're going to start selling penis pills, absolutely, maybe timeshares.
01:41:27 But for real, I am forcing Devon to do some, some sponsor stuff.
01:41:32 Yeah, we're gonna have to. I'm not gonna do ad reads, because I'll do those. It's okay, but I might make funny ads. I feel like that might be a good trade off make like, you know, like a humorous ad that plays, maybe in the intro, or something like that. I don't know something. Yeah, we'll see. We'll talk anyway. You don't look that excited about the idea.
01:41:54 Oh me, yeah. Oh no, that would be great. I hate doing ad reads, but ads are the only way to really have a sustainable show, it just has to be done. I remember a time being like, I'm never gonna do ads. And now I'm like, do you want to? Do you want to
01:42:07 sponsor my show? Will you do? I'll let you do. I'll let you be the show. Thank you. I'll do it well, I'll tell you what, if we do do ads, it's only going to be for pro white obviously, I think it's only gonna be with pro white people. And to some extent, we got to, have to do it anyway if we want to have a parallel economy.
01:42:26 And like, people are talking about, you have to promote those people that have businesses that are pro white, yeah, and so I'm not, I'm not opposed to that. Like, there's a lot of companies that you'll hear from a lot of the dissonance shows that, you know, they're sponsoring all these different shows they deserve to be patronized, you know.
01:42:42 Like, even if you know, like, especially if it's something that you need, you know, like, there's all kinds of different, different people out there that have good products that are pro white and so, yeah, let's hear we got. TM, oh, wait, did I skip one? No, we did not. TMK, 1335 with a generous dono and says, thank you both for all of the effort and sacrifice you have made to build your platforms. You have created massive communities of like minded people and brought hope to an otherwise hopeless situation.
01:43:23 Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. It's been a rough 10 years.
01:43:26 I think that's more about you. I don't think people say I bring hope very often.
01:43:30 So you do, though, you make us all feel better. I mean, we all tune in for the Insomnia Stream, because there is solace in camaraderie in these dark times. And like I know a lot of other people are listening and feel the same way that I do, and that's powerful. It's meaningful.
01:43:46 Okay, well, thank you. Thank you very much. TMK 1335 then we got likes to watch says no note. Well, I appreciate it anyway. And then we have sticks sent me here is the same sticks that's going to jail. What's going I saw something. I'm going to jail, but I got a soft spot for sticks.
01:44:10 Sticks sent me here has a big dono, very generous Dono. And he says, good fortune to you both in your new endeavor. Well, I appreciate that. It's very kind of you. Sticks, sent me here. Then we have book trek grooves. Hey, that's one of your guys there. Yeah, it says Halo tech, no cowboy and cowgirl. I expect you guys to buy a horse or a armored car called the horse buggy bunny. Horse buggy bunny, happy knitting and radio listening, all right? Well, yeah,
01:44:52 I might Thank you actually. Oh, man, he's gonna be so excited.
01:44:57 It's it is possible. I may, I'm a competent horse person, but, oh, really, I've never owned a horse.
01:45:07 I heard it's fairly easy. It's not, it's, it's, oh, I figured it's not easy at all.
01:45:13 No, it's not, it's not hard at all. I mean, it's not, I guess there are some people that just don't have the knack for it. But I think that it comes naturally. I think to most people that try it, then we have flankert or flank Earth. I don't know how to say that. It is amazing. How right Devon was about Trump. Do you think Normie White's will start waking up a little bit. No, Trump really betrayed all of us with this war.
01:45:48 I don't think Normie whites will ever wake up, because that's what makes them normies. You know, it's like, yeah, it's like, it's like saying, well, black people ever stop committing crime? It's like, not, not really, yeah, maybe some, you know, maybe some. But generally speaking, these there, there's biological differences at play here.
01:46:09 And the same thing with normies these, they're just, I mean, really, I'm not being funny, it's, they're biologically different than you they are there's not, like, there's no such thing as low IQ white people. There's, there's tons of low IQ white people,
01:46:22 right and mid IQs. And then there's a lot of genetic selection for adopting out group ideas or ideas that are viewed as dangerous, and for social, you know, trying to stay within certain social groups. I mean, some people, until the zeitgeist shifts massively, they will just continue being normies, no matter what the truth is, not is not really factor into their decision making.
01:46:48 No, it's survival. It's whatever, who they will support, whoever they think is more likely to keep keep them surviving. And if Trump looks like he's the strongest guy that's gonna make their 401. K's good and, and everything, you know, even, even if he's attacking Iran, they don't care about, you know, ultimately, don't care.
01:47:12 But, yeah, it's, it is what it is. Hopefully it doesn't look, hopefully it doesn't fly out of control into some like World War Three thing. I don't think it's going to though. I don't know. I hope not. It's possible.
01:47:24 Anything's possible. The Jews are being really erratic, though. Well, they are Jews.
01:47:31 That is what they do. Then we got mo Jack. Mo Jack says, good to see your new show. I appreciate that.
01:47:39 Thank you. Mo Jack. I've met him, IRL, too. That guy's awesome.
01:47:43 Another good mo Jack. Not a lot of Mo Jack's in the world, but all the ones I've met have been, have been upstanding people. Then we got yo Jimbo, or yo Jimbo. I used to call him yo Jim Bob, yo Jimbo. Rockford. Yeah, I know him too. And he says, First, gotta catch the replay, because the show starts when my shift does one question, Rebecca, where do I send the anthrax?
01:48:11 Do I get another anthrax shirt? I wear that all the time. Thank you for that. I don't even like the band, but he sent us a shirt. So Oh,
01:48:19 then we got a purple cat mint says congratulations on your very first show. I watched your first or first meetup on Rebecca's YouTube earlier, and it was funny, because you were doing predictions, I had to look up black female doctor dancing surgery.
01:48:40 What is that? What? I don't remember this at all. It says I watched your first meetup on Rebecca's YouTube earlier, and it was funny because you were doing predictions. I had look I it just says I had look up black female doctor dancing, slash surgery. I don't remember saying this, sorry, Purple cat mint.
01:49:06 I've said a lot of things online. I'm sorry. All
01:49:08 right, and then we got a war born 21 says Hi, congrats on the new show, guys. You make a brilliant duo. Looking forward to watching things develop. Keep up the great work. I appreciate that. Then we got Reaver from Craigslist says, Is this a good place to find out about Bitcoin? When is the boomer eye doctor from Guatemala coming on the show? Yeah. Really. All jokes aside, this show is off to a great start. Rocking collab 10 out of 10.
01:49:43 I've made some mistakes, guys. I know. I know
01:49:47 we'll never have a Bitcoin Boomer on the show.
01:49:50 What you don't want to have Jack Cruz on to yell at me for an hour
01:49:53 just to keep calling you like a dumb bitch straight. I was like, what is happening? Totally on call. Old four for no reason, where it's just like, what
01:50:04 buy our house? So I guess that's why he was so mad. Oh yeah.
01:50:11 It was, yeah, all right. Then we got but, you know, but, but the sunlight cures everything.
01:50:18 I know, really, if you stare into the sun, it'll get rid of your cancer.
01:50:23 Then we got tomo Hawk says, So Rebecca, are you under NDA? Or can you tell us what happened to the backlash?
01:50:34 Okay, well, I am not black. But I am fearful of impending litigation. I mean, I guess, as much as what I want to say is that, like the backlash was my show, I did. Dave did all the tech stuff, and Cameron added really valuable analysis. But, you know, I got the group together and I prepped 100% of the show prep. I did that every show.
01:51:04 Chose all the topics, did all the pacing for the show. You know, it was, it was my show, and so it was really hard to give it up and to give it to somebody else. But I, I totally lost creative control of the process. And then, like, just my vision of the show. I just couldn't, I just couldn't manage to achieve that.
01:51:26 And so I didn't want to spend another 10 years like doing a podcast where I wasn't saying exactly what I wanted to, and we just had a difference in vision, and I couldn't criticize Nick Fuentes. And so I was like, I gotta go. So yeah, it's Dave's show. Now he owns the whole thing. I just had to give it to him.
01:51:43 So there you go. All right, and we got Reaver from Craigslist. Says, my bad for going Jew mode with a $1 hyper chat earlier. Forgot to change the donation amount. Mental defect. Moment. No problem. We like our dollars $1
01:52:07 I don't want to do a Stefan Molyneux style crash out, but at some point, if the show gets too long, we are gonna have to go to $10 and up, which
01:52:14 is my idea. Well, honestly, if we did that, we'd still be reading most of these. So, all right, then we got a rise in. Ryan says, Rebecca recently went out, got all hot and in good shape. Now you want to take her stupid pretty face away. I blame Dave on, yeah, no, that was my bad on the he's talking about like, when, when this graphics up and we can't see us? Oh, okay, so I need to make it. So
01:52:47 I had to, I'll have to add it so that you can see our little TV screens in that, in that thing I just, I had so much, I mean, I did a whole broadcast pack. You got to realize something like this usually takes a lot longer than, like, four days. So to come up with, yeah, really, so yeah, but no, you did a great job. It looks awesome. It'll evolve. It'll get better. Oh, and
01:53:08 I have to glaze myself. I can't believe somebody noticed it, but I have been religiously weightlifting for like, four months now. So thank you, somebody for noticing. I really appreciate it.
01:53:20 Trying to get all ripped. You taking TRT and, yeah,
01:53:23 totally, yeah. No, I just want to be like toned and fit and and be able to carry my fat baby a little more easily and stuff. So groceries and a fat baby, that's that's really what I want.
01:53:35 All right. Then we got guitar. Dude says, Can someone tell us what happened with the backlash? Also, can we see Rebecca's face and body? She's hot.
01:53:51 I literally just answered another super chat that said this. But creative differences, let's say that.
01:53:57 So we're good there. Then we got Mackenzie Doom says, Devon, Rebecca, thank you for the stream I'm listening while road biking my daily 20 miles, because if we're gonna be outlaws, we got to be fit.
01:54:12 That's so true. Thank you so much. You guys were so awesome. This warms my heart.
01:54:16 Then we got Negro spritzer. Of course, we all know what he's saying, and we're not on YouTube. So he Well, he explains that he let's put this way. He likes the idea with the the hole in the in the school house, and he thinks that it's actually an appropriate thing, not just for for Negroes, perhaps, but for all kinds of people.
01:54:41 Yeah, then we got Jake tongue Seth says, God damn you guys are a perfect. Are perfect together. You had two or, wait, I'm not good at reading. Apparently, you two had me rolling laughing, talking about the Nick getting burned alive. The school house, I found my new favorite, pop. Head.
01:55:05 Then we got, how's it going? Says, they turned debt velcro head into a candle, and she it. Then we got truffle B says, Great, first episode. Love the time slot, so there's a vote for the time slot. Likes the time slot there.
01:55:24 We're not married to the time slot, but, you know, it's nice to have something during during the day, and we'll see how it, how it goes and, you know, well, and
01:55:33 people can always watch the replay, you know. So, yeah, it's nice to have something, something or like, you know, like, you say, a lot of people listen to stuff at work and things like that. So we got great Fannie Schoot says, Great show guys, may I suggest more pit Well, again, I think we might be more hole in the roof.
01:55:52 I might have to make like an AI song about holes and roofs or something, that we got real relic, relic, maybe relic relic spelled interestingly, looking forward to future of this show, two favorite streamers coming together. I don't know why you left the backlash, but say the word and, well, we can't say that. He wait now, say it and, oh, say the word and Dave is dead to me. Dave is dead to me. I thought he I thought it was a threat of murder for a second.
01:56:28 No, no, I don't want to get down in the mud like I did with my last my last pod. But whatever you're imagining happened based on what you know about us is what happened. So there you go. Keep that in mind.
01:56:44 There you go. Then we get art Stanton says, Great show guys, this 180 pulled by Maga, where they're suddenly pro regime change has broken my brain. How much of it do you think is bots and sock puppets? What do you think?
01:57:02 A lot? Definitely, a lot. I mean, when you block accounts, how much does your Twitter timeline quiet down?
01:57:09 It's substantial. No, it's, it's crazy, like you can live in a totally different universe by just blocking a handful of accounts. Yeah, it's, it is weird. But I will say this as much as I'm sure there are llms and all kinds of AIS now participating in social media, and unfortunately, the technology is good enough to where it's going to get harder and harder and nearly impossible to spot, if not already, at the same time, I don't know.
01:57:44 I do feel like there is a shift, right? There is a shift we do live in. You know, we are kind of siloed in little echo chambers, but there is a shift, I think, because even within our own echo chamber, there's been a shift. And I guess I would, I would guess it's less dramatic in normies fear.
01:58:01 And I'll tell you what I as you guys know, I listen to, like, ham radio boomers occasionally. And they're, they're still, like, on fucking planet neocon. So it's like to them, this is all great, that they're fine with it. They think it's a long time coming. You know? They're, they're all about it. So there's still, like a lot of people that are just that, if that, you know, are totally insulated from the kinds of conversations that we're having, right?
01:58:32 It's really difficult to get a gage on what the general public thinks, because we are in this echo chamber. I feel like everyone's J woke
01:58:39 well, and you live in a weird part of the country too, right? If you go out and talk to the average person, you're going to hear different stuff than I would, you know, because out here it's boomerville. Like, there's a lot of snowbirds that come out here, you know, from, well, cold places. And these are, like, upper middle class boomers who drive $150,000 RV, and so they're all about their 401 k's and tax breaks.
01:59:08 And they all loved, they all love Trump. I can't tell you how many signs that said, Fuck Biden. Like, back, you know, a couple years back when that was going on, there was, there were giant, like, I mean, like, giant, homemade Boomer billboards that said, Fuck Joe Biden, like, the bigger than you've ever seen at the side of the road and shit, which was, it was, it was slightly heartwarming, because their hearts in the right place.
01:59:33 But also, kind of like, boy, and then art Stanton also says the roof hole is the new pit. Trannies need to get in the roof hole. There we go. Sealant already. Already we're creating memes. Nemby says faggots. Fanny Schutz says, Long live the pit. So maybe that's a vote for the pit. Then we got cage motion. Juro who just says, Oh. Slash. Evergreen dream says, Congrats on the first stream.
02:00:06 Thank you so much. Evergreen dream
02:00:09 also says, Buy yourself some Arizona green teas and pour them out for Retarded faggot. He's an old record of the show that hasn't, hasn't been around in a long time, but, you know, dead, but not forgotten. Then we got King. Saltine says, I dig the new show. The new song is, it is a banger. Check on x.
02:00:33 I'm gonna send you a new video, the shit show. Looking forward to D, o, t, r2, well, I appreciate that for anyone who's new from Rebecca, yeah, if you, if you want to hear some pro white admittedly, AI generated music, although it's not as crap as you might think. Just by hearing that, there is a band that i i robotically you are made, called Pale siren, and the last song is called, is it? And I think it's pretty good. It's a good song,
02:01:04 dude, some of his AI music, slaps. You've sent me some stuff where all day I've been, I've been singing it, yeah, see, see,
02:01:12 yeah, and, but yes, I appreciate that. And, and, yes, D, o, t, r2, is also not forgotten. It's just, obviously, I'm a busy man. Very busy man. Rebecca made me busier the last few weeks. So it's sorry, that's fine. This was we got over the hump like this is the the rush to make sure we didn't look like idiots on the air is over.
02:01:33 Finally, that is the standard for any first podcast, yeah, just am I going to look like an idiot?
02:01:39 Is it not? If it's a disaster, that that's a fail. But I don't think it was a disaster. We're doing good here. It was pretty it was pretty good. Pretty okay. Yeah, we got the roof hole. We got jafeig says glad I got to work from home today to see the premiere. Devon makes me hopeful. Blonde is cool too. Thank you so much, then we got optics. Prime says replay squad checking in. Catch you on the flip side. All right. Scroll, scroll, scroll.
02:02:10 Cage mission. Jaro says our burden is to shift the zeitgeist. Revolver 357 says we need a cheesy 90s DJ voice intro. Welcome partners. You are now listening to the outlaws, place of the far right with Devon and Rebecca. We can maybe do something like that. I kind of wanted the announcer voice, though that was, that was, I thought it'd be fun. And yeah, there's, I want it. I want it to be, yeah, like, like, a real show.
02:02:45 Like, I want to make this, like, I would make a normal show if someone paid me to do like the broadcast design, then we got end tower crane operator says, still can't figure out where Devon's Mike sounder came from. Love the new show. Mike, oh, the mic, you'll, yeah, oh, okay. It's Bigfoot related. Rupert says, so no more Insomnia Stream on Wednesday. Professor, stack that. No, not right now. There is a there.
02:03:18 Maybe I'll once I get in the groove of this, it's possible that the Insomnia Stream goes back to two nights or something like that, but not until, not until we smooth this out and make sure that everything's good. And probably not all spring. Because the whole reason I was, I was going to shift to this in the first place is doing beekeeping in the daytime is really hard to do when you've been up till three or, you know, so in the morning.
02:03:43 And so this is, this is a better time slot. And no, you're getting two for one, right? You're getting two for one. It's a two for one. Stream. You're getting it's all and she's better to look at than I am, right? So there you go.
02:03:59 Devon, nobody asked for this. Alright? You guys are going to take it and you're gonna like it.
02:04:07 Then we got no long Park pork says, devil, we need a cartoon AI Churro for your screen. That is your voice as you do the show. I'm I'll tell you what you're probably gonna get, like, a real Churro coming in during the day. He's, he usually sleeps during the day, especially as it heats up. He'll get more and more asleep during the day, but he'll probably interrupt stuff.
02:04:32 Then we got crazy. Horse says should have or Devon should have a bulldozer tractor fight with Owen Benjamin and him in a mud pit. Idea. Then we got sticks. Sent me here. Says, Hey, I was a Normie once, then I got beat up by two niggs, then beat up by 10 spikes, same thing, then almost killed by two names, not nor me anymore.
02:04:58 Oh, geez. Have you. Ever had any bad interactions with with diversity yourself was case of, yeah. You ever had like, I guess the answer the question, Who hurt you?
02:05:14 Well, I went to a high school with inner city bussing, so I saw no I went to an elementary school with inner city bussing. So I was pretty much from the beginning, like, I remember being like, I don't like the way these people smell, and blonde pills at age six or whatever.
02:05:33 Yeah, I've, unfortunately, I've had experiences with diversity since a very young age. Yeah, that was a pattern I picked up on pretty quick. Then we got a super big dono from Super Daphne. Really appreciate that. Super Daphne says, great collaboration.
02:05:53 Super Daphne, no relation to me. I don't know this person at all.
02:06:00 Well, that's, that's really, really kind of you. Super Daphne,
02:06:04 who love you Mom, did you name a beehive after her? Yes, yes, yay, absolutely.
02:06:12 I gotta find out which ones are still alive. So that's one of the beekeeping things I do. Is winter is officially 100% over. It's more than over Now out here and and so I got to go and see who made it. You know, who? Who's still with us? Probably not any of the nice ones. It's probably have to be an Africanized beehive, because that's, those are the only ones that seem to make it every year.
02:06:33 But, yeah, but we'll see. There's, there's still there. Last year, there were still a few hanging on of the European ones. Mackenzie Doom says, Devon, my handle is Mackenzie doom? Not Mackenzie doom. Wait, how? What I'm have aI read it or not?
02:06:52 Am I retarded? Let's hear
02:06:58 okay. Why? When I played it with my robo voice, I said, mecona, nice Doom is that meconomized Doom? Not Mackenzie doom. I don't know what's going mechanized. Mechanized doom. I don't know. I'll say mechanized doom. How about that? That sounds I
02:07:17 don't have the chat in front of my face. So this all sounds like gibberish to me. Is gibberish,
02:07:20 pretty much. No love lost, and keep up the good work. Well, I appreciate that. All right. Then we got Team White. Team White says, this is very encouraging. Sorry, I'm late. I can't wait to watch the full replay, yay. All right. Then we got stick. Sent me here again. Says, Oh yeah, I should have explained.
02:07:38 I was bussed into city schools, as were many people. Many such cases I used you got bust into the city school. Yeah, they did that too. You didn't know that they did. They bust white kids into the black schools. Oh my god, oh yeah, oh yeah. No, I didn't know that. Oh yeah, big time.
02:07:59 Yeah. I had the misfortune of just living in a ghetto in California when I was a youngin, and so the house behind my house was government housing, so that was the neighborhood I lived in. See, you can imagine the fun that I got to experience. But yeah, no, they, if you were like some white suburban kid, they would bust you to the inner city. It was like an exchange program, basically, if you think of it that way.
02:08:27 So, yeah, well, proximity to black people makes turns people into turbo racist, just every time, every time.
02:08:34 All right, then we got King. Saltine says, I dig the new show. The new song. Is it a banger? Or wait, did we read this rumble? Does this rumble duplicates? All right, so see here, all right. Glam during says, I wrote a song. I actually wrote it myself. No, AI, except the music I took, took me two weeks of reworking and tweaking. Be Awesome. You guys listen to it, and then gave the link. And for the record, I write all the lyrics for all my songs.
02:09:05 I don't AI doesn't write my songs. All right, then we got, I'm gonna check entropy one more time make sure we didn't miss any we got one more on entropy, and it's QR, Zed Waffen says, I see you. Blonde woman, are a member of a of the cult of Saturnalia. Devon she has come to de radicalize you on behalf of her Saturn cult. Lol. JK, but for real, though, great show. All right.
02:09:43 All right. Well, I mean, do you ever wonder if there's, if there's even a more radical position you could take? I think about as far.
02:09:51 Here's the thing is, I'm way more radical than I say. Oh yeah, for legal purposes, I have to be right. Yeah. I. Like, yeah. I mean, I'm down for like, I can't think of anything where I'd be like, Oh, slow down, guys, that's no, you gotta remember. I think whole of the in the school roof is good. Oh, yeah. So I don't
02:10:14 ever lay out hypotheticals in your mind. Like, if I could press a button and XYZ, oh, would I really do it? I really do it? I just think about that all the time, and I'm the place where I'm like, Yeah, I could, I could do it.
02:10:27 Yes, no, it's not a thought experiment for me. It's more just like, I would absolutely do it. I wish where's this button? Yeah, really I want to find this button, because I would just keep pushing it until, like, my fingers bled,
02:10:40 yeah, find the button, put them in the roof hole.
02:10:44 The roof hole button, all right. Well, I think that's, I think that's everybody, unless you know, of course, there's always gonna be someone, until you missed mine, because, you know, something messed up, but I'm pretty sure we got everything. All right, guys, well, anything you want to say before we
02:10:59 we say goodbye. Thank you so much for joining us on our first show of the outlaws. We are going to be getting better every single week. Next week, we will be streaming on YouTube as well, and we really appreciate your time. So we will see you next week at noon, Pacific Standard Time, Rumble, probably stream on Odysee again YouTube, and we will see you there. What about you? Anything you want
02:11:23 to say, No, it's just the you know, make sure you check out the Insomnia Stream on Saturday, because the YouTube thing, I guess if wherever you're watching it right now will also be where the Insomnia Stream happens. Let me just make sure I didn't Love and Division might have sent some on Odysee. No, okay, we're good. We I have one person that sends Odysee chat things, because it's some weird crypto thing.
02:11:45 But so I just want to make sure I went screwing them alright. So, but yeah, just make sure you're here Saturday for at 10 o'clock, 10pm eastern time or No, Pacific time this. This is still early for me. And you know, we're gonna have a great stream on Saturday, and make sure you tune in every Wednesday at high noon, also pacific time for future outlaws streams. And with that, I guess I will, I will bid you guys for well and I have my Insomnia sign off thing. Do you have a sign off that you do?
02:12:25 Nope.
02:12:27 All right. Peace out, niggas.
02:12:30 Heh.