Outlaws： Episode 10, The Unicorn Killer - 05/13/2026

00:03:15 You are watching outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.
00:03:25 Hey, welcome to outlaws. Sorry about last week, guys, we had a conflict, a scheduling conflict. I'm sure you talked you talked about this on insomnia stream, but yeah, and I was so sick, so it doesn't really matter, and I did the Christian white podcast. So check that out. We're back,
00:03:43 and better than ever. A quite a deep, a deeper topic than that. I was expecting when I first started looking into it started off as just a simple Wikipedia entry, and then it exploded into like, what I don't remember, any of this happening.
00:04:02 And we were looking for some of the, some of the clips, and they've been just completely scrubbed from the internet. I spent an hour today looking for this one clip. It was a 2020, episode with Barbara Walters. It does not exist on the internet.
00:04:16 Yeah. I mean, that you'd think something like that would exist, because it's, it's not like a a small interview. I mean, it was, it was really big at the time,
00:04:25 yeah. But
00:04:25 Anyway, we do have a lot to go through. I'm Devon Stack, by the way, and
00:04:30 I'm Rebecca Hargraves.
00:04:31 You're watching Outlaws, and we're gonna get right into it here. So let's see here. All right, this guy is who we're going to be talking about. Look at him.
00:04:43 Ira Einhorn,
00:04:46 With a name like that and a face like that. Actually, this guy pulled chicks somehow. This guy was a ladies man and
00:04:55 quality
00:04:56 boy. He wouldn't go after the Jewish chicks. What a no.
00:05:00 Know, and he was very important. He was very important to the Jewish movement, also known as the civil rights movement, or the hippie movement of the 1960s and 1970s friends with people like Abby Hoffman, who was the Jew that I've done streams on if you've seen Forrest Gump, the guy with the American flag shirt going via fucking Nam. That's Abby. That's supposed to be Abby Hoffman. There. You know all the all the turbo Jews of the 1960s this guy was one of them. He was out of Philly and well, here's a little intro for those of you who are unfamiliar with him. Let me play this here.
00:05:44 He was a leader in the counter culture movement, dropping acid, protesting the Vietnam War and organizing Philadelphia's first Earth Day.
00:05:53 Occasionally, I like what I see.
00:05:57 I was a combination of Abbie Hoffman and Allen Ginsberg and hippie statesman all rolled into one,
00:06:08 so wise, wise words, using his big Jew brain there,
00:06:18 yeah,
00:06:18 to mesmerize The goy crowd with his Morse code. He was like, programming them with some kind of Morse code, I think,
00:06:25 yeah, see when you're on LSD, you think that anything anybody says is profound. That's probably why he had such an incredible following,
00:06:33 absolutely. And yeah, he was, but yeah, he was, he was there to remake the American culture into what boomers, I guess, helped usher into, well, the world that we all grew up in. Here they are gushing, gushing over him. Oh, he's such a he's such a big brain Jew.
00:06:53 Earth Day. Today is the day we listen to Jews and we all act gay. Earth Day. There is nothing to it, just like Ira iron horn, the hippie movement was Jewish, Jewish Earth Day.
00:07:18 So, yeah, he, he was a co founder of Earth Day, and he was well liked by all the sophisticates of the time. He was one of the top speakers, although the current Earth Day people try to act as if he had nothing to do with it now, because, well, you'll find out why. Yeah,
00:07:38 he was a co founder. He was a professor. He had actual academic standing. People followed him. It was like a cult, like following,
00:07:48 yeah,
00:07:48 he was considered a guru by many
00:07:50 Yes.
00:07:51 And South Park did an episode, kind of basing their Earth Day, one of their Earth Day characters off of him. So here's that,
00:08:01 the heads of the Earth Day brainwashing organization are here to tell you all about it.
00:08:06 Hello, children, I know you're all very excited about having the Earth Day brainwashing festival put on in your town. Global Warming is going to kill us all. The Republicans are responsible.
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00:08:57 Yeah. So just to get that out of
00:08:58 the way, you
00:09:04 Oh, sponsored by Antelope Hill, of course, obviously. So, yeah. So the hippie movements in full swing in the 1960s bleeding into the 1970s and he's one of the top dogs. He's traveling, you know, to San Francisco, to the whole, you know, hippie movement that's that's exploding over there, and, you know, just very, very, very big guy on the scene, although you haven't heard him these days, and you'll find it again find out why. But
00:09:33 he was
00:09:33 doing all the standard hipper hippie Boomer stuff, like orgies. LSD, he was doing it all
00:09:43 well, yeah, and and promoting it as a way of life while never having an actual, real job. Here's
00:09:50 one of
00:09:50 his Jewish friends,
00:09:51 wealthy.
00:09:52 Oh, yeah, well, yeah, without having a real job, he somehow had tons of money. We'll get we'll get to that too. Here's one of his so. Sophisticated Jewish friends talking about how how smart he was.
00:10:04 Ira was like out there. He was a very experimental kind of guy, and I respected him for that. And he was a man before his time.
00:10:15 He became sort of an icon of the counterculture here, because he represented everything that was going on at that time, from political activism to drugs and various other particular kinds of subjects that became the core of the counterculture rebellion,
00:10:37 with wisdom like that. It's hard to imagine how he wasn't, you know, one of the most popular voices on the left. So, yeah, he was considered an ultra leftist. And but it's funny, because with all these good things to say, you know, that the Jews have to say about them, they also have, you know, kind of an unusual thing that they have. And they all do. They all say this. They all have. It's a bit odd. Have you heard this where you notice the same sort of a thing when the research that they all had this one, one characteristic about him that they would all bring up lovingly.
00:11:15 He loved to be seen in public, particularly talking to people who looked important, and the university was like again, his his home, his public home. This is the Student Union area where he would give his free university lectures, or he would meet people you could not miss IRA because Ira the way he looked and where he smelled,
00:11:39 smelled, simple as that, Ira had terrible body odor.
00:11:53 You know, this is just a manifestation of his narcissism, right? I think that he was trying to cultivate this persona like people would note, because he's so ugly, you know, that people would notice when he walked into a room immediately. And that's why he did it. We have a clip, but he was actually not a dirty guy. He bathed,
00:12:11 yeah, well, and he would sit in his bathtub all day. In fact, he would have, he would hold court, I guess you could say while in his bathtub. In some of the reenactments I found from these weird 90s shows that covered it. They were really bad. They were all the acting was terrible. They would have him in the bathtub, like while surrounded by hippies, and he's like, in the bathtub with like, a fucking typewriter while, you know, preaching to the hippies in his bathroom. And but they try to make the excuse, well, he wasn't stinky because he was a dirty Jew
00:12:41 that IRA spent about two to three hours every day bathing. He would spend hours in the bathtub, conduct business from the bathtub. Had a had a phone. He was constantly he was he was absolutely pristine clean, but he never cleaned his clothes. And he would put on this mantle of garments that were almost like going out in the world. He needed a scent that was other than his own. It was a persona. Ira did things to shock people.
00:13:14 Look at that guy. Imagine that stinky ass motherfucker just rolling on in so, I don't know. I guess the excuse was, oh no. He wasn't a dirty Jew. He was just a clean Jew with dirty laundry. That's all. It was. Practically lived in a bathtub. I'll tell you he was. He was perfectly clean this Jew. How dare you say that he's that he's dirty.
00:13:40 Did you watch the terrible movie with Naomi Watts?
00:13:43 No, did it? Was it? I have it, but I didn't get around to it because it was just so long.
00:13:48 It was just, it was awful.
00:13:50 Did they go over the dirty part that he was stinking?
00:13:52 Yeah, yeah, stinky. But, you know, goy actor and stuff, of course, they didn't touch,
00:13:57 yeah, yeah. No one touches this with a 15 foot pole, the fact that he's Jewish, or that all of his friends, but like, if you'll notice, all these people that they're interviewing, like everyone's Jewish, like literally everyone, unless they're, again, not no spoiler, unless they're part of law enforcement, that's honestly they're Jewish. Like, everyone involved with this story is Jewish,
00:14:21 but you know, everybody's just talking about his aura and, right, yeah, like his his musk and his aura. That's what everybody had to say about Ira
00:14:30 right now, in today's terms, it was all about aura. It was like he was a, an influencer, big brained influencer that everyone thought, you know, had not just aura, but, you know, he had skills with the ladies. He was pulling chicks somehow. Even with his stinky Jew clothes, he was still able to, you know, Rizz them up, apparently. But everyone agreed he did have an egomaniac, or he was an egomaniac. He was definitely a narcissist, but he had the exact. Same characteristics as like these narcissist influencers that think that I am the movement, you know, that
00:15:05 kind of who could you be talking
00:15:09 just some, some fucking, maybe a gay Mexican snitch or something like that, but
00:15:14 so pissed off on your stream on set,
00:15:17 I just, I hate snitches. I fucking hate snitches. I just hate snitches. But, uh, yeah, anyway, not that, not that I already did have reason to be angry, but, yeah, the snitching thing is just, it's like, come on, you know, like,
00:15:33 why wouldn't you say snitches get stitches?
00:15:37 Well, they do get stitches.
00:15:38 You wouldn't say it on your stream.
00:15:40 Well, I was trying to get other people to see it's more powerful if they, they conjure up the second half of the sentence in their own head, you know, then they think they, they came up with the idea, oh,
00:15:51 for a while I was like, did he legitimately forget this? No, everyone
00:15:56 knows, snitches get stitches, but and, you know, they get, they get stitches, and then they get left in ditches with the rest of the bitches. I mean, who doesn't know that?
00:16:05 Oh, I've never heard that.
00:16:05 Who doesn't know that? So, but yeah, this guy has a lot of lot of similar qualities, where he had these people that followed him around, like cult members, and thought that every stupid shit that he you know, that he said, was amazing. He was just like this. You know, he was going to be, he was going to be the new leader of the youth. And everyone believed it.
00:16:29 He was really a very eager, maniacal person. And as a result, it was very powerful and very seductive and very compelling.
00:16:41 Yeah, I don't understand why. Well, how obviously he was, he was super charismatic, by the way, that's, I might just keep playing that clip for the funds. It's like there's not a whole lot of clips of what he actually said. That's
00:16:56 true,
00:16:56 and I read some of the stuff that he's written. He wasn't, he wasn't particularly intelligent, but he did this thing that Jews do to get goy women, where you build social credibility, because women view it as a sign of status like and that's why he liked to be seen with these other people, because he'd be like, I'm of the same caliber as these people, although he didn't actually have any skills, he wasn't articulate or intelligent, and that is how He got the women he didn't really have. He was a clout chaser money. He was a clout chaser. That's exactly right.
00:17:26 No, that's the thing. He was literally a clout chaser with, with no discernible values and or scruples. Well, like, again, like maybe some modern day influencers, right? And he consider himself the brains of every operation that he was a part of. In fact, that's kind of like the deflection that Earth Day does, where they say, well, he might have been there and spoke most of the time, and it was kind of his idea, but he didn't help. Found Earth Day, you know, he was just, you know, he just took it over. He just took it over it, because he's an egomaniac, and he was an egomaniac, but yeah, he never had a real job, and just consider himself like the center of everything, of the universe.
00:18:11 He didn't have a job. His job was IRA. And Ira in that context, was to be in everything, to be aware, to be active, to to talk to people, to convince them about how important he was and how intelligent he was.
00:18:26 So intelligent. Oh boy, so intelligent that guy. But yeah, so, you know, just like in the same way that a lot of these influencers are, are are narcissists, and they think that they're they are the movement, and everything's about them, and they and that does attract a certain kind of person. It does attract people who are weak, willed and kind of stupid and have no ideas of their own and or will of their own, and they're just looking for a daddy, you know, to tell them what to do. That's the kind of person that he was attracting.
00:19:02 And there was a lot of the people like that. In fact, ironically, if you came from, I think in this, as you'll see, there might be something to this. If you came from a conservative background, or, like an authoritarian background, you might be even more attached to someone like this, because you went from one house where you were, you know, when you were a kid being told what to do all the time, to another environment where you're getting told what to do all the time, and you never really have to think for yourself.
00:19:31 So that's, that's, you know, that's kind of what was going on, I think, with this and a lot of cult type groups. But just like a lot of these cult type groups, once it becomes clear to powerful people that you have influence over a large group, you now actually do have some value to the rich and famous people, because now you can be controlled opposition. You can be working for these you know, the very in the case of IRA, you know, who was very. Anti establishment, or so he would say, and very anti Corporation and very anti government.
00:20:06 Well, you know, he could make a lot of money working with the establishment and major corporations and the government as a kind of a liaison secretly in the background, which might explain where some of his money was coming from. Because, you know, this guy wasn't receiving super chats back then, you know, like he's just lecturing people from his bathtub or, like, from the steps of, you know, some school building at Yale or something like that. But He's also getting connected to really big corporations and local and even national political figures.
00:20:47 Yeah, he ran for mayor in Philadelphia, didn't
00:20:49 he? Yeah, he ran against Frank Rizzo, which I thought was funny. Fans of the Jerky Boys might know that's Frank Rizzo. Frank Rizzo was an actual police chief, but he ran against Frank Rizzo for mayor, and obviously lost. But, you know, so he was, he was part of the, it was part of, I guess, increasing his profile. You know, running the mayorial campaign with no intention of actual or chance of winning
00:21:20 einhorns visibility as the city's most prominent counter culture leader led to an unusual Alliance. He became a consultant for large corporations, acting as their liaison to the youth movement in Philadelphia.
00:21:33 On one hand, people said, Oh my God, this guy, there's something about him. The smell is too much. But on the other hand, dignitaries would sit through it and be fascinated by him. I mean, you know, and do things for him. The president of at&t would meet with this guy, and he agreed to send out correspondence for IRA, anything he wanted chew anybody. And
00:21:56 you have to understand this in the context of the 70s. The CEO said, Hey, we've got to make ourselves aware of what's going on in this world. And Ira was the perfect conduit, really. It was a very easy deal. We'll pay you, your books, your mail, your telephone, your xeroxing, be our contact to that new avant garde that was happening at the time, intellectually, culturally and socially. And that's what he did.
00:22:22 So he had donors,
00:22:24 yeah, the avant garde. What a preposterous characterization of the dirty hippie movement.
00:22:34 But it just goes to show. I mean, he had, I mean, you gotta think about this in terms of the also the 70s, the in terms of, like, the communication capabilities you had in the 70s, the fact that the head of AT and T was promising to send mess, I mean, that this is back when long distance was like $5 a minute, right to just talk on a phone, and there was no internet. There was no, I mean, mass communication existed, but it was a tool of the the rich and famous, and so for this guy to suddenly have access to mass communications where he could send, you know, whether it was maybe to coordinate a big rally or a protest or something like that, or to send out a newsletter, like a radical newsletter, with that His Jewish friend was publishing that he wrote for, or, you know, maybe even you could say foreign intelligence agencies. I mean, the fact that he suddenly had access to all this stuff, and they were paying his bills. Yeah, they were, they were paying for his rent. They were paying for his food and and just giving them cash to go in there and and explain to them how to advertise to boomers, how to convince Boomers to want to buy stuff, how to quell riots, how to, you know, he was, I mean, quite literally, it's controlled opposition,
00:23:56 yes,
00:23:56 and that's an important point. We should hammer home controlled opposition. They typically don't raise somebody from the ground up. They allow somebody to emerge organically, and then tempt them through practical means, into using their power and influence but redirecting it. So, I mean, ever this, this fed angle, everybody's like, Oh, people get captured from the beginning. They usually don't,
00:24:18 right, no. And it would make more sense, because, like, what if you, let's say you're, you're, like, the feds, or a big or whoever, you're some powerful entity that wants to influence people to believe certain things. I mean, I guess you could try to groom someone and then just kind of roll the dice and hope that they resonate with the people, and if they don't, you know, artificially pump them up in the algorithm or whatever, but we've seen that it doesn't work.
00:24:43 It doesn't work. Yeah, it has to be somebody likable, relatable, and it looks better. It looks more organic. People are less likely to recognize it as controlled opposition if they come up on their own
00:24:55 well, and in a way, it is more organic, right? Yeah. And so you have these. People that do rise to the top because they are more charismatic, you know, they they have these narcissistic personality traits that draw weak people to them, and they just leverage that and look because they are narcissists, like almost all these people have, you know, some degree of narcissism, usually, like a a criminal degree of it. They're easy to manipulate.
00:25:26 All you have to do for a narcissist is give them more access to more money, more power and more status, and, you know, tell them that they're, you know, geniuses, and you got them, you know, that's literally, that's all there is to it. They don't have principles. That's the thing. That's the other reason why it's easy. It like it doesn't make sense to try to groom someone from the start and then send them out there and hope for the best, when you can just find someone who lives off of clout and then promise them clout, knowing that if that's all they care about, they'll say anything, as long as the clout, as long as it's not unpopular, you know, as long
00:26:00 as it's so much less expensive as well, because what if you raise somebody we've seen, we've seen people be, you know, astroturf from the get go, you have to pay so much in bots and fake support, and you don't really know who's going to resonate. Sometimes it's unexpected. So, you know, this is, this was good resource allocation,
00:26:19 right? So
00:26:20 that's
00:26:21 the frame of this crazy Jew.
00:26:22 Well,
00:26:23 in
00:26:23 this, this fucking Jew here, I swear to God, like every sound bite from this is one of his friends who was also a professor at the time, and was, was couldn't, not only that, he's will again this a minute, he ends up being a character witness. But he this guy to this day, or at least as of this interview here, which, well, I don't want to spoil anything, but let's just say he, he thinks that. He thinks the world of Ira einhard or Einhorn. In fact, he talks about how Ira einhorn had a again, this is before the internet. This is before there was online meeting of houses.
00:27:02 Everything was happening IRL. And so his online, you know, meetings, his chat room, I guess you could say, was a real place called La terras Bistro. And he would hold court in LA terras Bistro. He had a table that was his table, and he would come in, and people would literally come in to this bistro and gather around him to to hear his his monologs and his his wisdom, and his streams, I guess you could say, prior to there being an internet. And so this was, this was something that, I mean again, it's a it just shows you, like, how technology has kind of shifted the landscape a little bit, but at the same time, you know, things don't really, didn't really change that much. So this is a clip talking about, you know, how they how that process would work.
00:27:53 What he used to do was basically sit and center table and have all the people surround him, and then everybody would come over to him and pay homage,
00:28:06 you know,
00:28:09 background
00:28:09 on that clip, like, what was he even doing?
00:28:11 It was in the it was in, well, it was in America's Most Wanted clip, is, I
00:28:17 saw it, but they just, like, popped it in normal,
00:28:20 yeah. And I was like, All right, well, if that's the only clip I have him talking, you know, I guess it's appropriate to use it, because there's really not, there's not a lot of clips of him talking so, or at least in this during this era, because they've kind of wiped it out. But I can just
00:28:35 later, though,
00:28:36 yeah, and it just well, and think of this way, as you said earlier, like if everyone's fucking high on on acid and shit like that, probably you're probably like, yeah, man, that's so unconventional. I never would have expected a man that's that's running a such an event like this to go up on the microphone and just prove the world how in serious existence is by just making silly noises. It's like a mockery of the establishment man.
00:29:04 He's an absurdist man,
00:29:07 yeah, so I could see how people would really, honestly, they would convince themselves that that actually was like some kind of brilliant performance art of some kind, you know, so and in fact, one of those people who, by the way, did you notice this too? A lot of her pictures, she has her eyes closed, like more than half of the pictures of this woman, her eyes are closed, right?
00:29:28 And then everybody was characterizing her as this stunning beauty. And I'm like, yeah,
00:29:33 yeah, exactly.
00:29:35 She
00:29:35 wasn't fat, but, yeah, I guess there's that, but, but anyway, yeah, this, this is Holly. What is it not Murdoch?
00:29:45 Radix?
00:29:46 No, it starts at m. It's mu muddox. Is what it is. Muddox, I think it is. Let me, let me double check. I've been looking her up all day, and now I don't know what her fucking name is. I. Uh, einhorn and Holly, think it's Maddox. Let me see here.
00:30:09 Maddox,
00:30:10 no, but it's with you, or no, it is mad dogs. It's you at the end. Okay, so yeah, Holly Maddox, she was a, like a conservative girl from
00:30:23 she grew
00:30:23 up in Texas, and her family was normal, conservative, and she still got totally indoctrinated into feminist ideology. They sent her to college, big mistake, and then she ends up dating this fat, gross Jew and gets ensnared in his trap, which is her own fault. She's a very unsympathetic victim.
00:30:48 Yeah, because you do get that vibe that she has like that typical, you know, I went to college and found myself and threw away everything that my parents taught me, because, you know, what do they know? You know, it's the Age of Aquarius kind of stupid. Like, exactly,
00:31:03 yeah,
00:31:04 that kind of mindset. They
00:31:06 did fail to protect her, but she wasn't when they started dating. She was like she was 25 or something. Like she wasn't 15, you know, right? It's like, by then, you should have kind of figured some things out. Girl,
00:31:19 well, she lived in the world on her own to some extent by that time. And, you know, like her dad, though his her dad was a World War Two vet, you know, like most boomer parents, or parents of boomers, you know, World World War Two vet, and they live basically in a rural area, had like, a, you know, totally normal family life, or at least at the time. And, yeah, she goes in and and, you know, he saw that. He saw the shiksa. And he was like, I gotta get me some of that. Because, Lord knows, no matter how Jewy you are, Jewish women never become attractive.
00:31:56 He saw her. And here was this fat, bearded, belly, Jewish kid from Philadelphia. And here is this beautiful, blonde, ethereal person walked in and Ira was just in love. And what Ira did was he want. When he wanted something, he just went over and did it,
00:32:18 yeah, yeah. Imagine the smell like the smell alone, like his, his, his Jewish cologne that he wore everywhere he went. It just,
00:32:28 you
00:32:28 know, her parents failed to put the proper Jew hating guard rails in because her father was a World War Two vet, though that's where, why, where they failed,
00:32:37 right, right? No. And I think that that, honestly, that that should teach parents out there everywhere, that that is the value in teaching your kids about racial differences, is they will be able to recognize these behaviors before well, maybe something bad happens to them. So this happened. They met like around, in October of of 1972 and he she even took her back to meet the family.
00:33:08 And I thought that was again, this was a missed opportunity. You know, the family, I think a lot of people are loath, you know, a lot of parents are loathe to like they think, Oh, it'll damage my relationship with my child if I tell them that their love interest is bad news or whatever, or or, almost worse yet, oh, it's his decision to make that he's with a psycho girl, or she's with a an asshole. And they they're very hands off, especially boomer parents, and you know, they're very hands off, and they don't want to do what their duty is to your child. Your duty to your child never ends. Even when they are grown up, you have to say, like, look, you're with a weirdo Jew. And this isn't going to work for the family. But you know, because he gave them there was, there was tons of red flags, I mean, just other than his smell. But here it is.
00:34:00 He helped himself to seconds before we'd even all had a plate. Then when he was through with his second plate, he leaned his chair back on two legs, put his feet on the table that's universally known as almost a hanging offense in Texas.
00:34:15 What disturbed the family most was his attitude towards Holly.
00:34:18 I had a pretty thorough glimpse of their relationship. From his point of view, it was a master and pet.
00:34:26 It wasn't the same Holly. She was very subdued and very subservient.
00:34:33 Yeah. And she also told one of her friends, according to the unsolved mysteries episode, that he was beating her already at this point. So she was very, she had gone from like this bubbly, she was a cheerleader, like she was a popular girl at the at the high school. She was, she was literally a Stacy and, you know, had lots of, you know, self esteem, and it was like the life of the party kind of a thing. She comes home, brings this dirty Jew home.
00:35:00 With her, and she's really submissive and and acts like, as her brothers put it, it was like a master and a pet. And, you know, she has beaten she had bruises on her. That's why her friend found out that she was getting beaten. She had bruises on her neck and stuff from him beating the shit out of her.
00:35:17 A hand print. She had a hand print on her neck. You know, the parents mistake. Their other mistake was that they allowed her to go out into the world. Because if she had major dependency on her parents financial and otherwise, then they could just be like, if you keep dating this gross Jew, you're out of the family, right? And they didn't have that that right anymore, because they let her go out into the world and have all this independence. This is why daughters need to be carefully protected and then transferred to a husband of the parents choosing transfer the child so that you can maintain control the whole time,
00:35:50 right? You should be vetting. You should be vetting your, the people that your, your kids are with, and parental approval used to be mandatory, and now it's not even considered relevant, yeah, which is a bit odd, but that's the way. And look, you know, look at the results, I guess. But you know, of course, even though there's all these reports that he's violent with her, that all the Jewish friends that look fondly back at IRA, they're like, oh, I don't know, he was always so nice to her.
00:36:19 I never, ever saw Ira do anything that was violent.
00:36:26 Yeah, never. Except for, there's an article I found where, and actually more than one, where witnesses say that he was often violent and abusive with her in front of the entire friend group. So like this include, which included this Jew right here that's on the screen, by the way, that everyone had to have been aware of it, because it was a frequent thing for him to beat the shit out of her in front of everybody.
00:36:52 He was her guru, and he was battering her physically and psychologically. It was very difficult for Holly, but she told about how Ira beat her in front of the entire group. She had a very low level of self confidence, and he had her convinced that she couldn't make it without him. Miss Jean child said, she also said he was pushing her toward sexual relations with women, in which he would be the observer. He would tell her that sexual relations with women would open her up to new experiences. She said it was very embarrassing for her.
00:37:24 So obviously, because he's a Jew, you know, he's, he's making her, you know, do lesbo shit for his entertainment, you know, I mean, obviously, you know what, you wouldn't be doing that. And she wrote about it in her journal. You know extensively that she was being beaten. I understand you went through some of her journal entries.
00:37:47 Yeah, she talks about how he would beat her and then, like, drag her to the bedroom and rape her. It was super violent. And this, this idea that nobody knew about it. I mean, her friends knew about it. His friends knew about I'm not sure if they knew about the rape, but they, for sure, knew that he was beating the shit out of her. Yeah, everybody knew.
00:38:07 So it was, it wasn't like, even an open secret. It was not a secret at all. So she eventually has enough of this, and she ends
00:38:18 up five years. Though, after five years, she's like, Okay, I've had enough of the beating and the rape. This is when she's 30. And what does she do?
00:38:28 Well,
00:38:28 what does she do?
00:38:29 She goes to Europe to go find herself, I guess, cuts her hair, like every woman does when they're going through something, and comes home to New York and gets with another Jew.
00:38:40 Yeah.
00:38:41 So she's now with this other Jew and of course,
00:38:44 she moves to Fire Island with this, this other Jew extraordinaire, who's also super Jew faced, and she acts like this is going to be a new life, a new life by recreating my old life.
00:38:58 Yeah, I'll just, I'll just be someone else's shiksa, maybe that'll help out. And this, of course, drives Ira mad with jealousy, and you know, because he always gets what he wants. And so he tells her, well, you're you. If you don't come and pick up your shit that you left in the apartment, I'm just gonna throw it all away and
00:39:18 cares. Just use the stuff. It's like five things in there. Oh, I gotta have this picture of John Lennon. I need to go back to Philadelphia so that I can get my picture of John Lennon, like my two hippie dresses
00:39:33 shoes, though, oh, my
00:39:34 God, to my abusive boyfriend. And then all of her friends were like, Oh, I wasn't worried about it. I was like, I guess, yeah.
00:39:41 In fact, even the Jew that she was shacking up with in New York, this guy right here, was like, ah, yeah, I wasn't concerned about her going back to like the psycho Jew, smelly guy
00:39:53 on September 9 of 1977 einhorn called them, called her. And he was going nuts. He said in her words, he was off the wall. He threatened to throw all her clothing and all her belongings out into the street unless she came down to Philadelphia immediately to come see him. He could not handle the fact that she was going with this other man
00:40:17 flying out the handle psychotically.
00:40:20 Sounds
00:40:20 like I should definitely go to his apartment alone. This is a selection event, okay,
00:40:24 yeah, yeah, but it is a nice suitcase, though. I mean, that's pretty vintage. I don't
00:40:30 know that was his suitcase.
00:40:32 No, that was his No, not this one, though. I think this was actually her suitcase, because this is the one how to tag on it.
00:40:38 We'll talk about another suitcase.
00:40:39 Yeah, you're thinking about his trunk. So, yeah, so she she goes to get her stuff, and then never returns. And no one, none of the friends from that friend group, think it's weird that she's just missing the Jew that lived in New York, that she lived with. Don't think it's weird that she never came back the family. However, thinks it's weird that she suddenly forgets everybody's birthday. She's not calling, she's not sending any cards. It's been several months
00:41:13 these kind of people. I'm watching all these clips, and everybody's like, you have to understand, it was the 70s, and so people would just disappear all the time. Like, are you serious? People would just disappear all the time and just, like, go off and do whatever they wanted for for months, for years at a time. Like, come on, no one found this suspicious. People were just not concerned about other people's well being.
00:41:36 Well, I feel like there's, there's probably two factors at play. One, everyone's on lots of drugs in the 70s. And, well, actually, three factors. Two, they're all boomers who are highly self centered, and so they're not really thinking outside themselves. And then three, there's no internet. So it's not like no one, you know, oh, she hasn't tweeted in a week. Or, you know, like there's no communication, like we're used to today. She
00:42:02 had a live in boyfriend. She was living at his house. He just doesn't come back after visiting her abusive ex boyfriend. He's like,
00:42:10 Honestly, though, after after, look, you know, watching some of these hippies clips that I've watched over the years, where they it just seems like they were like that. They were just like, Oh, I'm just gonna leave one day and I'll just start fucking some guy I met at the bus stop or something like that, you know, like, that's, that was just, and that's so when boomers go, oh, it was the 70s. That's kind of, basically, that's what they mean, is they were just all fucking they're all fuck ups. So the family hires a retired FBI agent to, kind of, you know, try to find him. His name is Robert Stevens, and he starts this investigation because the police aren't even, like, looking no one's looking for at all. They the police are just like, Ah, she's probably just some hippie, you know, doing some hippie shit. And her friends are just like, Yeah, whatever. You know, she's gone, who cares? And so this guy starts walking around asking questions.
00:43:05 I had a telephone call from Mr. Maddox, who asked me, told me who he was, and told me their concern over their daughter, and wanted to know if I could help them. One of the things that bothered me was he had told the family on two occasions that she had merely walked out of the house that morning while he was in the shower and had never come back, never heard from her again. And when the police detective in Philadelphia talked to him, he said, Yes, she had called him about two days later and said that she would call him weekly. This wouldn't make sense, unless he has something he's hiding. We wanted to make Ira feel comfortable, even though he knew we were making inquiries. We were making inquiries concerning who could she have possibly gone off with, rather than in what grave she might be in.
00:44:05 So yeah, they try to keep him, because at this point, by the way, according to all of his Jewish friends, this is where his career really takes off, suddenly, like he now he's, he's not just, you know, getting kind of money funneled to him behind the scenes to consult and whatever. But he's actually, you know, doing all these speaking events. And he's actually getting invited to the big parties with important people now that his girlfriend has, has has vanished. So they keep looking around, talking to different neighbors and whatnot, and the debt the people that live just below, just below IRA, what did they have to say about something odd that had happened?
00:44:50 Yeah, okay, so these drugged out hippies from below that one night they hear a blood curdling scream, and then over the next days, we. And months they see smelly brown goo oozing from the ceiling. Now they don't put two and two together because they're drug addled Boomer hippie idiots, and they just keep trying to disinfect and bleach this day, and they're like, Oh man, what's this smelly stuff coming out? It must be like he's growing mushrooms up there, or maybe he cooked something weird. They get the landlord in there, and the landlord is like, well, that's IRA's closet. And so he goes up to IRA's, IRA's apartment, and IRA's like, No, I can't let you in. About I have all of these important documents in here. He
00:45:33 said he had
00:45:34 secret Russian documents.
00:45:35 Secret Russian documents, yeah. And so the building manager was like, Oh, well, he's just some Jewish hippie eccentric. No need to investigate further. And then the downstairs neighbor just, they just keep, like, spraying bleach on the blood. Yeah? They're
00:45:49 just like, Give me, give me the Lysol. I'm going to spray Lysol on it, and we'll just maybe, maybe it's haunted, yeah, maybe this is some weird Jewish, you know, ectoplasm dripping down from the ceiling, from the demons inside of his closet up there. Well,
00:46:04 everybody knows what it was. It was, you know, decaying bodily matter. You can imagine one of them actually had worked at a morgue, one of the downstairs neighbors, and he's like, Oh, it smelled like a, like a morgue in our apartment.
00:46:15 And I would know, because I worked at morgue, but I can't put it together.
00:46:18 Jesus Christ, I
00:46:20 don't know what it is. It smells exactly like death. You know, like it's, it's the distinct smell of death. But maybe, maybe it's rotting Cheetos or something
00:46:29 that scream of death had anything to do with this death smell well,
00:46:34 and of course, they obviously because they remembered it when they because they told the investigators it's not like something they heard, and then, oh, they just didn't think of it the next day, and it was gone from their memory. They obviously stuck with them, because, you know, these stoner burnouts were able to, you know, remember it when the investigators came. So, yeah, it's a little weird. But anyway, so this, at least at this point, this gives the cops the ability to get a search warrant, because now she's been missing, they've got the the you know, testimony from the people downstairs, and his story has changed, so they get the search warrant.
00:47:13 They show up at his house to serve him the search warrant, and he answers the door in a robe with an open robe with his ball dick and balls hanging out. And they're like, Hey, buddy, all right, circumcised. Okay, we're gonna we're at the come in to your weirdo, hippie apartment. Here's a photo of, I believe this is the front door. There's his study. I don't know there's his nice kitchen. That's where he's where he does his work, his best work. And, oh, what's this? Like a door, the padlock on it, or something like that. That's that's interesting. So the investigator asked him, Oh, you got the key to this? And I was like, well actually, he like, and you know, so they're like, all right, dude, we're gonna have to break the lock here.
00:48:09 I asked Einhorn, did he have a key for that? And he said, No, he didn't have a key. I then told him that I was gonna have to break it. We had a warrant. And he said, do what you got to do. I was able to take the hasp off of the locking portion without disturbing the locking mechanism itself. The first thing I saw was a closet full of boxes, and a suitcase had a tag on it, and it was Holly Maddux name on the green suitcase. I'm now in the closet, and the only thing that is left in the closet, after all the boxes and the suitcase has been removed, is the steamer trunk. And now the odor that I had smelled initially is even more profound, and I want to open the trunk, and there was a lock on the trunk, so I turned the einhorn once again, and I said, Do you have a key for this lock? And he said, No, he didn't have a key. I then got a crowbar, and I was able to remove the mechanism. And when I opened the trunk, I noticed laying right on the top were newspapers. And then I noticed that the trunk was all layered with styrofoam. This the styrofoam that was in there. I then proceeded to start moving everything to the left, and the first thing I noticed was a hand. And the hand was mummified. The hand was looked as though somebody or Holly had tried to push the trunk open.
00:49:44 Ah, isn't that great,
00:49:46 yeah,
00:49:47 isn't that great.
00:49:48 So there is some evidence I heard from other detectives that there's evidence that she was put in there alive, and there were some claw marks also on the top of the trunk,
00:49:58 right, right. And. He basically beat her within an inch of her life, stuffed her in the trunk. And then when she came to, she tried to get out, but was stuck in the Jew closet, covered in shit, and essentially just, you know, died there inside.
00:50:14 Yeah, and they don't know how long it It took her to die. I mean, she could have been in there, dying, trying to get out for
00:50:21 for days. Yeah. So you know the ultimate, you know the ultimate Jew move, I guess he got his shiksa. And you know she was gonna, she was gonna leave him. But no, no, I'll show that bitch who's gonna, you know, she even in death, she won't leave me. Yes.
00:50:40 And he around this time, he was writing in his journal, which they found later. This is like the most poorly covered up crime I've ever seen in my life, by the way, and in his journal, or this might have been when he went to Ireland, but it says, in order to to experience beauty, you must first destroy it, and then you can possess it. And that is, that doesn't that typify the Jewish archetype. That is everything that they're about. This was all the shikska, the shiksa love and everything like this. This is all about
00:51:12 defiling,
00:51:13 firing and defiling, and then possessing and destroying beauty,
00:51:18 absolutely, and, you know, and he wasn't bothered by it at all, like, not even a little bit after they, you know, they, they find this. I mean, they're literally in his apartment with a mummified body a couple feet away. And he is the response when they're like, well, it looks like we found Holly. His response was so fucking Jewy.
00:51:42 I then immediately stopped searching and said to Einhorn, it looks like we found Holly. Einhorn said, you found what you found.
00:51:52 You found what you found.
00:51:54 He's trying to put this into some he's trying to make this philosophical
00:51:58 right and act as if, like, you know, there wasn't just a dead body of his ex girlfriend in his closet for 18 months, which is how long it had been at that point. So
00:52:09 for remains at that point, they were totally mummified and they weighed 30 pounds,
00:52:13 right? So 18 months of a dead body just sitting in your closet and just rotting away. He did try to get rid of it at one point by getting these two other girls, because somehow he had some power over women, and telling them that it was a trunk full of secret Russian documents once again, and that he needed to throw it in a river before the CIA got to it, because the, you know, the CIA was going to get his secret Russian documents, but now this was, this was her coffin right there. This would know that's where she lay for 18 months.
00:52:51 So once you know, once that was all, obviously, you know, they found the body, they arrested him for murder. But it's weird, because even in the reporting, more contemporary reporting, like reports from the 90s, they can't stop glazing him, even though it's obvious that he's some psychotic murderer. You know, it's like they Catholic. They have to say, well, he, you know, he was a lunatic murderer, but also a genius. He was. He was a visionary ahead of his time. You know, even here so this is America's Most Wanted. You'll find out why, in the 90s, they were still looking for him, and here, in a second, talking about his case.
00:53:35 In all the years we've been on the air, we've never come across a character quite like Ira Einhorn. At times he seemed like a drugged out hippie lunatic. Other times, he seemed like a visionary genius who would take the world by storm.
00:53:52 He's a visionary genius that would take the world by storm.
00:53:56 Yeah?
00:53:57 What
00:53:57 He's not saying is the whole time he was just a typical Jew,
00:54:00 yeah, he was just this drugged out hippie Jew, actually, the whole time,
00:54:04 yeah,
00:54:05 yeah. So they arrest him. This is, well, as you can see, 328, 79 so 1979 after she's been missing for about a year and a half, they they Book him, but his friends don't seem to even all the friends that were very nonchalant about her going missing are also very nonchalant about him being arrested for murder, and partially because they believe his psychotic stories that the CIA is setting them up, you know, he's calling everyone a Fed, you know, that sort of a thing, to Get out of responsibility for his own actions. And this is a clip here with this, I thought the Jew that we you mentioned earlier that we had that that we were stuck on the frame of for a minute.
00:54:50 Listen to how he describes like, like, how the group is reacting to their friend being arrested for murdering the. White girl that had been in their orbit that, you know, for years, that they all saw, although they never mentioned it. Now, they all saw the abuse. They all, at minimum, heard about it, and now he's, you know, they found the body in his apartment, you know, like, it's not like, oh, they arrested me for murder, because she never turned up. It's like, no, she turned up in your closet, you know, like locked in your trunk. So, I mean,
00:55:23 Ira could never,
00:55:25 yeah, and it's, it's, but no, in fact, even the ones that think, Well, maybe if you'll check this out,
00:55:30 I remember, I was sitting in my office, and I got a phone call. It's Ira calling from jail, and he has, he starts to talk about Einstein with me, starts to talk about what we had talked about a couple, you know, the movie we had seen as if nothing had happened,
00:55:51 actually has the wrong clip I was thinking of, but no, but like, he's very nonchalant about it, and whatever. And then this is, I think, the right clip where they, they talk about how it's how it's like, oh, well, you know, no big deal. Oh, wait, no, that's that comes later. Actually, sorry, I jumped ahead. I jumped ahead. So anyway, he was really casual about it. He blames the CIA. His Jewish friends believe that, you know, maybe it is the CIA.
00:56:16 I was one of the people initially, who said, you know, let's wait and see. Let him defend himself. He i at the at the bail hearing, I said he would not run away. I didn't think he would, because he told me he was innocent.
00:56:27 Don't forget, this is the period of conspiracy and paranoia, and everybody felt that there, you know, that the CIA, or all of someone was was doing all these clandestine activities. So the first response was, can't be that they're trying to set IRA.
00:56:42 Ah, yes, they're
00:56:43 all
00:56:44 they just didn't care, because it was going to disrupt their social life, their access to power. And because she's goy,
00:56:51 right, right, she was one of the goyim. Didn't really matter that much. And they will like that same guy. Will actually like this guy here, will reiterate that later in the clip that I was I thought I had next there. And then, of course, he gets Jewish legal representation. I mean, obviously, right.
00:57:10 He was represented by former district attorney and current four term senator from Pennsylvania, Arlen Specter, who lined up a lawyer, a priest, a reverend and a vice president from Bell Telephone to testify on einhorn's behalf.
00:57:25 So yeah, Turbo Jew Arlen Specter, who was a Democrat that would flip to being Republican. He was just whatever. He didn't care, whatever. Like, well, like, I guess, like some influencers today, just flip parties to achieve whatever insane goal they think they could do. But no, he ran as a Republican, went, got elected as a Republican, and then just voted for Democrats the entire time, and a lot of conservatives always hated Arlen Specter. Eventually, he did turn back to a Democrat, but also, and I know, I know Rebecca's got maybe different views on this, but I think it's a little fishy. He was on the Warren Commission, and he's the one that came up with the magic bullet theory. Yeah, so get
00:58:19 into JFK stuff. I know people get so mad at me, and my mom gets so pissed about like, sometimes I'll wake up and she'll just be fighting with my brother. I'll have, like, 75 mixed test missed text messages. They're just fighting about JFK. And so I'm like, I'm gonna start a family war if I talk about JFK. But my, my opinion on conspiracies like Charlie Kirk numbers amongst these is that motive is insufficient proof of it's insufficient evidence. Like, motive factors into every crime, but at any given time, a lot of people have motive to kill somebody else. So, like, I need more evidence than motive. Well,
00:58:59 this is, here's some here's a nugget of evidence. Arlen Specter, Drew extraordinaire, was on the Warren Commission and came up with the magic bullet theory. He was also good buddies with Chuck Schumer, who refuses to die, and also Joe Biden, who also refuses to die, although I feel like that's probably gonna happen sooner rather than later, if you know, if we're lucky. So we got that whole connection where he's his lawyer is literally Arlen Specter. And not only that, he gets local priests and clergy, Christian clergy, to go to his bail hearing. And again, this is for bail for murder is extremely rare, especially for a case like this, where there's so much evidence that, I mean, physical evidence that points to I mean, come on. Who else did it like? Is the theory going to be? Really that the CIA broke into his house and put a mummified body in his closet and then sent the cops there.
01:00:05 Right, right, right. The fact that he was up for bail is truly remarkable. I mean, they found her body in his house. Her stuff was in his house. He had motive, which I know what I just said, but he did have major motive, and he was clearly the last person to see her. So it's like in any other case, like this would never happen today, right?
01:00:24 But Arlen Specter was politically connected, and he got all these Christian clergy to back up the idea, in case, you know, like people thought that it was a Jew that murdered a white woman, which actually was a factor back then. And he got, you know, rich AT and T executives to come in and vouch for him, the ones that were paying him to be controlled opposition, and
01:00:49 well, they had to protect their asset, right,
01:00:51 right? And the judge decided to give him bail.
01:00:55 Everybody my suiting myself, would go up and testify to Ira being this gentle, sweet, loving, intelligent person. The judge was in self. So he's, I'd never heard such glowing reports about somebody. He literally said that.
01:01:08 Yeah, that. And this smiling Jew was also one of his character witnesses, and he was a professor at the time, so he was also another guy. Oh no, there's no possible way This guy's a crazy murderer. And then here's a clip from Unsolved Mysteries, which you know, in addition to America's Most Wanted, also did a story on him, and you'll see why. Well, I think it's becoming obvious that, if he's on bail, what would happen if he got bail?
01:01:37 Einhorn soon came up with an explanations
01:01:42 like
01:01:42 claimed the FBI and CIA had framed him by planting Holly's body in his closet
01:01:48 public hall, and we would like to walk to the courtroom, if we may, without questioning
01:01:52 his attorney one time Philadelphia, da now us, Senator, presidential hopeful Arlen Specter pulled off the impossible bail for Ira Einhorn.
01:02:04 I was offended back in 1979 when they allowed him out on bail, because in my entire career, somebody who's charged with murder never gets out on bail, never got out on bail. And when I sat in that courtroom, and I watched the parade of prominent people March before the bar the court and sing the praises of Ira Einhorn, who was a murderer, who was a murderer, but nobody wanted to admit
01:02:32 it. And guess who paid for that bail, Barbara Bronfman, of the bronchman family, the same Jewish family that funded Nexium, you know, the Jewish organized crime family that got their fortune from bootlegging during Prohibition, and, you know, heiress to the Seagrams liquor fortune that was again gained through Jewish mafia, Jewish mob ties, and around the, you know, in America around the 20th century or around the turn of the century,
01:03:10 story is, it got so much Julier than I ever anticipated, right? It was possible.
01:03:16 No, it never ends. And so she, she pays the 40,000 which, again, for her, that's like, that's like, 10 cents, right? Yeah. So no big deal. Didn't even matter that it was that low. But that was still low. I mean, they lowered it to 40 grand, because Arlen Specter, the Jew, it gets all these people that convinced the judge that that he's like this little teddy stinky teddy bear, and he has all these powerful friends. So how bad could he be? So Barbara brothman pays off the bail, and he's he thinks he's going to get off. He's not nervous at all. Here's the smiling Jew again, talking about him after he gets out on bail.
01:03:58 And that weekend happened? Jerry Rubin was up, Peter Coyote, myself, bunch of friends, Ira was there, came in the door, also, we're talking about it, and all of a sudden he appeared, literally just from nowhere. And we confronted him at that time. We all asked him, we, you know, we pounded him with what's going on, be you know, be you know, be a man, be somebody who, sort of, you know this is this, you know, it's a horrible thing. It's okay. Maybe you get off on manslaughter. Maybe you know, you can do all you know, you can claim some other thing.
01:04:32 Maybe it's okay. You can claim manslaughter, and we'll get you so he's been his, no, he's they're not horrified at all that he beat his girlfriend to death and kept her body in a trunk in the closet.
01:04:44 Yeah, they're like, how could we help you get out of this,
01:04:47 right? We can just, you know, we'll just say that you did on accident. You were, like, in a you had a momentary, you know, loss of control, and you just beat her to death in a fit of Jewish rage. And you know, that happened some. Times, you know, not a big deal. And so it that's, that's the clip I was looking for, by the way. So it's kind of crazy that the response from the friend group, because I presume that these were friends of his, so they were friends of her as well.
01:05:17 And so it's not even just like some random, like homeless chick that he murdered and stuffed in a trunk and put in his closet. It was someone they knew, you know, it was someone that everyone, no one, had anything bad to say about her, not even like his friends. So, you know, he's not even nervous at all. He laughs it all off, and he's super confident. And then one of his Jewish friends, the one that run ran the radical newspaper that he wrote for, told him, Well, you better watch out, because the world's you know, anti semitism will get you.
01:05:51 I said to him, Ira, you're a overweight Jew with long hair with a beard, wearing sandals with dirty toes, who just allegedly killed a white Anglo Saxon Protestant cheerleader.
01:06:06 Oh, my God.
01:06:07 I know God things are as they appear. Jew man,
01:06:12 right? And so, but it's funny because at least, I mean, that wouldn't even be mentioned anymore, at least not out loud, they wouldn't talk about the fact that, well, he's Jewish, and you killed a white woman. But it did matter. Back then, people did think about those sorts of things. They should start thinking about them again. But apparently, either that talk or something spooked him, because he obviously didn't show up for his trial. He left first went to Canada, then he went to England, and then he went to Ireland.
01:06:47 Now the weird thing I thought about the island thing is he just shows up at some professor's house. I'm imagining he goes to, like, the student ghetto, like, whatever, you know, the neighborhood that's around the university, and he's knocking on doors. Because the story that this professor, this Irish professor, tells him, is that, Oh, I'm sorry I knocked on the wrong door. I'm just looking for a place to stay because I'm new in town or whatever, and somehow, just by talking to him for a few minutes,
01:07:16 Oh, you want to live with me?
01:07:17 Yeah, yeah, like, Oh, we got this mother in law's quarters, back behind the house, and you seem like a normal looking guy, right? You don't seem like a psycho murderer or anything like that, you know, like you've got, you don't have the psycho staring eyes of, you know. And just come live with us. So he lets, he lets him live with them. And it's like, it's, it's really fucking weird that, that you would just let a complete stranger like that live with you. Maybe it's high trust. I guess you know, you could say it's a symptom of the high trust society, you know, the the white man's brain, but this is how he describes it.
01:08:03 I wrote dominated a lot of people, and I suppose that's how he did it, in an intangible way, through eye contact. You can't describe these things, that particular kind of charisma, but I think I sensed some of his power.
01:08:20 Okay,
01:08:23 there's power.
01:08:24 Imagine being such a pussy that you let a stranger live with you because he looked at you a lot.
01:08:30 He wouldn't break eye contact. It's hard to explain. He just, he just had this Jew gaze that I couldn't look away from. And so I said, why not live behind me and my family in this house for free. And so everything's going well, I guess, at first, but then the professor tells him, Oh, I'm going to be gone for a little bit because I'm going to America to visit some friends, and Ira being like the the master criminal that he is, you know, keeping bodies in his closet, that sort of a thing he want. You know, once he found out that this professor was going back to America, he said, What he said was, well, don't, whatever you do, don't, don't tell anyone that you met me, because they might want to extradite me back to America, and the professor's like,
01:09:25 Okay, I definitely won't do that now, you know. So he, of course, when he gets back to America, looks him up and finds out that he's wanted for murder. So he comes back and there's no extradition treaty at the time between Ireland and America. So he tells the cops, but the cops are like, well, he's wanted in America. He's not wanted here. We can't really do anything. So He then tells IRA, all right, you got to go, you know, because I can't have a now that I know you're a murderer, I guess now you can't be here. And. So he leaves and he bumps into him again at Trinity College, because, again, this guy's addicted to, like, hanging out around students and trying to be like this. You know, big brained weirdo with the youth, and he's going by a different name. Now he's going by Ben Moore,
01:10:19 yeah. Did you hear about this? Why he chose this name?
01:10:22 No, why?
01:10:23 Because it's paint, you know, and he wanted people to know that he he was in their house. He covered the walls. He also considered going by Sherman Williams.
01:10:34 Oh, well, that's, it's very, that's a very low key name to go by. Let's go and I'm Sherman Williams.
01:10:43 That was, that was too direct.
01:10:46 Well, I don't know, looks like a smart fucking guy there. Genius, total fucking genius. So he, it's weird that not only is he, you can't extradite him because of the treaties or whatever. He doesn't really leave the area other than to or he leaves that exact part of of Ireland. But then he just he starts gathering in Ireland, a new group of groupies, and it's it. He runs into some kind of, well for Ireland, locally famous people in their younger years.
01:11:25 By the end of 1991 einhorn moved on to one of Dublin's most exclusive neighborhoods.
01:11:30 His house was directly at the back of ours, and I'd met a party, and he was interesting guy to talk to.
01:11:37 Jonathan Philbin Bowman is now a television game show and a newspaper column.
01:11:42 Look at that hair, by the way, I
01:11:46 don't know. I kind of like it.
01:11:47 Is he a Jew? He looks like it. He looks like an Irish Jew. Could be
01:11:54 and a newspaper column. Back in 1981 he was a teenager who found einhorn to be eccentric and offbeat with a guru like following, we're talking about slightly fringy alternative people.
01:12:16 So he gets like this following because he's he's talking about all these fringe topics and getting high all day. And I guess that fucking nonsense has has traveled over to Ireland. But the thing that weirded me out was the same America's Most Wanted video that had this in it also talked about this guy. Do you remember this guy who he's the dad of?
01:12:39 Oh yeah, this is Courtney loves father,
01:12:42 yeah. So he starts hanging out with Courtney loves dad. The Connect, the spider, web of connections of this guy is just really weird,
01:12:49 bizarre. She's Jewish too,
01:12:51 yeah. And so he starts hanging he brings Courtney Love to him to meet.
01:12:58 Well, I saw him actually slap a woman in front of me. I saw him.
01:13:03 So I saw it. Naturally, I brought my my daughter to
01:13:05 daughter commander a car and take a car away from a woman. I've seen him yell at women
01:13:14 again. So naturally brought, hey, Courtney, you want to meet this guy that beats women and yells at women and takes their vehicles by force,
01:13:22 and he'll, but he's very charming. He'll,
01:13:25 but he says he was charming to women and men. He had frequent breakfast meetings with einhorn at this local hangout. Harrison even brought his daughter out to dinner with them, a daughter who grew up to be musician, actress and cover girl for this month's bizarre magazine, Courtney. Love. I
01:13:42 was just like, the fuck, the fuck is going on? So
01:13:46 bizarre, to be clear, though she is. It's the matrilineal side, so her father is not Jewish,
01:13:53 okay. Well, one of the other thing he mentioned the same interview is, he's like, I should have clipped it. But he was like, well, it was also well known that, you know, he had orgies and sex parties. I didn't go to the sex parties, but whatever, everyone knew about them. So he's having these orgies and, like, stinky Jew orgy sex parties. He's living in, like, one of the most expensive neighborhoods. How's he affording this? Well, it's because the Bronx, you know, Barbara Bronfman, is still paying for him. So the the rich Jewish lady, again, the same family that funded Nexium and all this other crazy shit was was not only funding him, but but visiting him while he was in Ireland.
01:14:38 She, in effect, admitted that she'd been sending him money. She she actually had gone over and met with him in Dublin.
01:14:46 Yeah, so she's, she's not telling the police where. I mean, he's, obviously, he's a murderer, and yeah, and not only that, he's so ballsy. Where his house was, where is the park? Apartment was, it was a couple blocks away from the US embassy, and he was so confident he went to parties at the US Embassy under this name, Ben Moore, and was, again, how does he even get invited? I don't know, but he's, you know, he's, he's become a socialite overnight in Ireland, just by showing up and having no background and just being like this psycho Jew,
01:15:26 well, he should have been confident. He had all this institutional backing and they base, he basically was allowed to skip bail. Like, why wouldn't you be wildly confident at that point?
01:15:36 Yeah, I guess if the Bronfman family was funding me, I'd be kind of confident. Yeah,
01:15:42 they can't touch me, yeah.
01:15:44 So, because they can't, they can't get them, they decide to do this unusual thing, which I didn't know that you could do in pencil back where he was, you know, he was wanted for murder back in Pennsylvania, they decided to try him in absentia, which means they can have that the court case without him actually being there. And if, you know, they set the court date, if he doesn't show up for court, then they still have the trial, and they still, you know, go through with it. And of course, this really pissed off his Jewish lawyers, you know, like this. This is one of his new Jewish lawyers, Norris Gelman, again, who's paying for this? You know, Jews, Jews are paying for it.
01:16:29 Yeah, right.
01:16:30 And so he's, he's going down there and arguing the case and and saying, This is a travesty of justice. You know, you can't have, you can't have a trial without the defendant. He
01:16:41 was at my desk, and I got a phone call, and I believe it was Joel Rosen who said to me, we're going to try IRA in absentia. I said, you're going to do what?
01:16:51 When somebody fails to appear for their trial, 234, years go by, and then we catch them, and then we bring them to trial. What happens is we lose those cases quite often because we can't find the witnesses, because the witnesses don't remember what happened. So for us, the ability to try defendants in absentia is very important.
01:17:09 In September 1993 Ira einhorn went on trial for the murder of holly Maddux.
01:17:14 I thought the whole thing was quite unfair, but the judge ordered an absentia trial over my objection,
01:17:21 Gilman did not focus on the CIA conspiracy defense. Instead, he challenged the validity of the forensic tests, but the evidence was overwhelmingly stacked against him. Evidence that the downstairs neighbor heard a woman scream around the time of the murder, evidence that a brown, gooey substance leaked into the downstairs apartment that prosecutors identified as body fluids, evidence that einhorn tried to persuade two young women to help him get rid of a steamer trunk that he told them contained secret Russian documents.
01:17:52 Everybody in this so retarded every step of the way. Retardation,
01:17:57 yeah, just really, this is why I hate the 70s, guys, I just fucking hate the 70s so much. But the what was the what was the verdict? Rebecca,
01:18:08 he was guilty. Yeah, guilty, yeah, of course,
01:18:12 yeah. The evidence obviously was clear. They only deliberated, I think, for like two hours. So on September 29 1993 he was found guilty, and they now attempted to get him because now he wasn't just wanted in connection with a murder. He was a convicted murderer, and they thought they would help them get him with the local authorities there, he then started bouncing around Europe, scamming more rich women out of their money and getting them to pay for his lifestyle. As he went from different countries and Scotland, yard was having a hard time finding him, I thought one thing was funny. They mentioned that another famous connection was Peter Gabriel, the the British rock star met with him and gave and he gave him money to
01:19:07 ruin everything for me, don't you? He wrote the most romantic song that exists.
01:19:12 What song is that?
01:19:13 Peter Gabriel, in your eyes? Do you
01:19:16 think that's the most romantic song that ever exists?
01:19:18 Oh, it's so. I mean,
01:19:20 I like the sound, but, but
01:19:22 ruin for me, absolutely ruined.
01:19:24 I thought
01:19:24 you're gonna say sledgehammer. That's pretty
01:19:26 wrong. That's so lame. I can't believe he did
01:19:30 this.
01:19:32 Get bamboozled by him. It was so transparent.
01:19:36 Yeah? So yeah. Peter Gabriel funding some of his we also
01:19:40 found out that he went to see a famous British pop star
01:19:46 who's been identified as Peter Gabriel, the pop musician had come to know einhorn through his ideas of the paranormal, einhorn had his private number and arranged a meeting when he reportedly asked for money. He.
01:20:02 Yeah, sorry, but they they eventually track him down to a woman named Annika, I think Bauman, or something like that, who was a Swedish woman who was also wealthy and was paying for his lifestyle. Because that was the, I guess the next woman looked very similar, in fact, to Holly Maddox. And, you know, you know, thin, blonde and whatnot. And they, they find him in this, this French chateau in, like, one of the most expensive parts of France, living it up by the seashore with this woman, and they decide to go in and arrest him.
01:20:49 Tracked down and arrested in France last June, after 16 years on the run, Ira einhorn applied for prison release, telling the French judges prison had ruined his life in Pennsylvania, he faces life in prison, but he was let out of this court with a reprieve a happy man. He's been freed, but still faces an extradition hearing in December, the one time New Age guru, Swedish companion, called the extradition request a kidnap attempt,
01:21:17 she
01:21:17 went directly to the prison to be reunited with a 57 year old fugitive from us justice. They have been married, but he used an alias, borrowed from an Irish friend, casting legal doubt over the marriage. Einhorns lawyers say they fear that if he's sent back to the US, he'll be sentenced to death, contrary to French law. But einhorn appeared confident.
01:21:42 He said
01:21:42 he was just happy to be free and going home.
01:21:46 Okay, Pennsylvania didn't have the death penalty at this time of his conviction, so there was a 0% chance he was going to get the death penalty. They knew that in France. Well,
01:21:56 not only that, he if you look at this footage, He's smart. He's so happy to be back in the limelight. You know, I think he was, it was almost worth it for him. He every clip of him, he's laughing and smiling at the cameras and and hamming it up. He's so happy to be on that side of the camera and back on TV, and even if it's under these circumstances. But, yeah, you're right that there was no death penalty.
01:22:22 But so what the lawyers then switched to is saying that, well, in France, if you are, I guess they do have a form of in absentia trial where you know you don't have to be there, but if they do eventually apprehend you, and you request a trial after you're apprehended, then you must, at that point be given a trial. And because that's not how the Pennsylvania law was. They were, you know, basically trying to deny having to extradite him back the United States. Here's, here's yet another Jew tried it. Yeah, all the Jews come circling in to make their Jewish lawyer
01:23:05 one inch
01:23:06 forehead.
01:23:08 Now, these fucking Jews, man like
01:23:10 got no frontal lobe,
01:23:12 they got no souls. What they got no
01:23:14 and in France, unlike the United States, and unlike the law in Pennsylvania, if a person is tried in absentia, and they're later convicted and subsequently apprehended. They are guaranteed a new trial on the mere asking.
01:23:32 But like they're all happy. So they think they got off, they think they got off, they start doing a media tour, and this is where that 2020 interview happened, by the way that you were looking for with Barbara Walters, in that interview, I found descriptions of it, you know, like Rebecca said we couldn't find anywhere. But apparently, in the interview, he's laughing, he's basically mocking the woman he killed and their family, that his wife is feeding him grapes, you know, like by hand, and it was such bad PR that really enraged a lot of people in America. In fact, one of the things I found is kind of random. I found these two DJs from Michigan that decided to prank column on on Earth Day and call him a murderer. So here's that.
01:24:26 There we go.
01:24:31 That's the unicorn song from the movie.
01:24:35 Yes. Is Ira there? I'm calling to wish Ira Happy Earth Day. Is this? Is this Mrs. Einhorn. It's Drew and Mike calling from W RAF radio.
01:24:46 Okay,
01:24:48 and of course, he, When's he coming back to the States, because I know he's, there's a murder deal, the woman in the trunk and stuff
01:24:56 whatnot.
01:24:57 Would you like to talk to her?
01:24:59 Yeah, yeah. Cuz you're. A month be great. Mean, he started Earth Day basically,
01:25:03 yeah, hang on a second
01:25:09 trunk.
01:25:09 No, no, it's not her fault, although she's
01:25:12 red
01:25:20 papers, hello, hello,
01:25:21 Ira,
01:25:22 yes, yes.
01:25:23 Happy Earth Day.
01:25:24 Happy Earth Day. Who am I talking to?
01:25:26 It's Drew and Mike calling from WRF radio.
01:25:29 Where's W RAF
01:25:31 in Michigan.
01:25:32 Hi. And,
01:25:34 of course,
01:25:34 look at you.
01:25:35 Of course, you started Earth Day.
01:25:37 No, I didn't really start Earth Day. I was one of the people who helped create it? I think it's Senator Nelson really started her,
01:25:43 yeah, when are you coming back? Because I know there's, you know, you have some things to deal with over here, and you've been over there for a long time. And I just, I know it's not long before you're gonna be forced to are you, is it?
01:25:53 No, I will not be coming back. That's, that's a rumor that has absolutely no substance.
01:25:58 Oh, I know, but you can be forced to come back.
01:26:00 No, I'm not going to be forced to come back. And I don't really want to talk about it, because I don't think you know very much about
01:26:06 it. Well, oh, I know a lot about it.
01:26:09 Well, I don't think you know very much about it. Can we talk about Earth Day? I'm much more interested.
01:26:14 I think the other subject is certainly a worthy subject.
01:26:16 No,
01:26:16 I'm not particularly interested in talking about the other subject, because most people over there don't know very much about it. I would much rather talk about Earth Day, because we all live on the planet and we're,
01:26:26 well, yeah,
01:26:27 bills that are dead,
01:26:28 but some, some people have been taken off the planet unfairly, and they have to be spoken for too
01:26:34 well. You can speak all you want about something that you know very little about. The only thing I'm interested in is speaking about Earth Day. And if you don't want to speak about Earth Day, I will say goodbye to you. Well,
01:26:43 it's too bad you won't speak more about what you know about the other subject, because you could answer all the questions, and then it would could be put
01:26:50 to rest. I'll answer all the questions when I have an opportunity. I cannot have an opportunity as a result of what Philadelphia has done and
01:26:59 why. Now, a
01:27:00 little bit more research into that, maybe we can talk
01:27:03 well, I know what bail is, and I know you're not supposed to leave the country when you're on bail and never
01:27:07 return to face
01:27:08 trials, to have trials in absentia, particularly for murder.
01:27:12 Well, what do you do when people murder people and they're bailed and they leave the country?
01:27:15 I didn't do it. That's your problem. Do you want to talk about Earth Day?
01:27:20 No, I think it's your problem.
01:27:21 Yeah, your problem. Fine.
01:27:23 Clearly, you did it.
01:27:27 Oh, he's such a dick. But isn't it funny though, that no matter how testy the whole thing gets, he's still willing to talk about Earth Day, still ready.
01:27:40 So, yeah, you know, he beat his wife after that. Like, why did you take this call?
01:27:44 Because he again, he's a narcissist. He can't help himself. Yeah, he wants the fame, and unfortunately for him, Pennsylvania, I think, in part, because of that 2020 interview, actually rewrote the law and made it so that okay in that case, we'll make it so you are able to have a another trial. And they did this after the prosecutors went through the information to make sure that they actually had a case. So that wouldn't just, you know, be letting them go. And then, of course, the same Jews came out, you know, like a fucking, bees come out of a beehive. We're like, Yeah, no, no, that's illegal. Now,
01:28:26 on first blush, it would seem that this has cured the problem.
01:28:29 Simon, a defense attorney with an expertise in extradition law, argues that this new provision is unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable.
01:28:38 The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania goes on to say, the legislature cannot, by an act of assembly, overrule a judicial decision. It cannot grant a new trial. It cannot direct a new trial.
01:28:56 This law is a ruse. In my mind, it's a snare.
01:29:00 A ruse is that, yeah,
01:29:04 that's what he's trying to say. Well, what? So what his lawyers were arguing was because the way the law was worded, it wasn't, he wasn't guaranteed a trial. But, I mean, it was pretty much guaranteed trial in the process, prosecutor's office said, We'll give you another trial. But because the way the law was written, it didn't mean you automatically got one. And so they they kept going and complaining to the French government, saying, Oh, no, we can't, we can't let this happen. But the French had another extradition hearing, and here's the news report for that
01:29:38 prominent anti war campaigner and activist in the 1960s is expected to appeal the decision to a higher court. In an unusual move, the court didn't order einhorn to be placed in custody. The 58 year old has been sentenced in absentia by a Pennsylvania court for the killing of Helen Holly Maddox, a crime he denies. Einhorn was well known in Philadelphia, where he once ran for mayor, police found maddox's corpse stuffed in a trunk in a closet at his Philadelphia home. Her sister is adamant einhorn must be sent back to the US to face trial.
01:30:15 Ira einhorn will get a new trial. If he requests it. I will be there, and he can no longer use that as an excuse to avoid the consequences of beating my sister to death,
01:30:30 although the extradition
01:30:33 depends on promises of a retrial in the US, einhorn's lawyer says the issue is whether American authorities can guarantee
01:30:41 a fair trial
01:30:41 trial? Yeah, you see this in other cases, extradition cases, you get Jews that swarm in and to defend murderers and such, and they will, they'll make the case that all American trials are unfair, and so you can't be extradited back to the United States because it's impossible to have a fair trial in the United States, especially if you're black or Jewish or, you know, whatever, and which is, essentially, that's what they were, they were doing. And so he kept appealing up, you know, as far as he could, I think he even went to the EU's Human Rights Court, whatever the fuck that is. And he, he lost, and they, they were going to extradite him, and then what did he do in in reaction to that?
01:31:31 This a rhetorical question,
01:31:32 yeah. Well, I mean,
01:31:33 oh,
01:31:34 that's free. This your favorite
01:31:36 part. Do we guess i because it so shocking this, and we can play it without it being so,
01:31:41 yeah,
01:31:41 right,
01:31:41 yeah.
01:31:42 So he slits his own throat. And when I saw this, I was like, dude, maybe this was a serious suicide attempt. But Devon, like, had me look at the picture closer. He actually just kind of, like, slit his fat Jewish gullet, like he didn't get any of the stuff in there, and then he does an interview with his neck hanging open.
01:32:02 Yeah, so here's the here's the footage. So to get attention, you know, he's like, I'm I'm gonna slit my own throat. But of course, he just cuts open, like, the skin, his flabby, you know, gullet skin, but it's still nasty, like, it's nasty as fuck, because he just has, like, this open wound in his neck. So here it is. They'll zoom in on it.
01:32:26 It's
01:32:28 like, this
01:32:30 is
01:32:31 responsible. He is the prime minister. He's responsible for all the people.
01:32:36 So he's got, like, that gaping wound in his neck, like, that's not just blood, that's actual wound, because he slid open his his jowls.
01:32:44 Not just the hope gone, the scoop,
01:32:51 but there it is. There's the close up.
01:32:55 Ah,
01:32:56 yeah, but he's laughing. He's obviously fine. Well, maybe he's high as a kite to knowing this guy, but, but he's totally like, putting on a show. And you know, saying, Oh, I'm innocent, I'm innocent,
01:33:12 performance art. Yeah,
01:33:13 exactly. It's trying to be shocking, but yes, you can tell here he is in the back of the ambulance, shit eating grin.
01:33:20 Yep.
01:33:21 He's just like, Ha, I'm on TV again. Yeah, exactly. So they do eventually. Here's footage of him landing. I believe this is in July of was it 97 I think it was. So they finally, or no, no. July of 2001 so they finally get him brought back the United States. But even here, right where he's he's getting led back to face trial. Look at, look at how happy he is that he's look at all he's like, Oh, look at all the cameras. Oh, my God, look at all the cameras. He, I mean, he, he's, that's as happy as I've ever seen an old Jew. It's almost like he's in a solid gold police car, you know, like, I can't imagine him being any any happier than that.
01:34:10 And so, yeah, it's, it's kind of crazy that that even after all of this, he's still enjoying himself. And of course, he is found guilty once again with the new trial, because the evidence is overwhelming that he murdered her. But even then, that same Jewish friend that was like, so what? Maybe, maybe we'll say it was manslaughter, and we'll get you off. It'll be fine. You know, he still, even after the trial that proves, with beyond a second trial, by the way, that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that all the forensic evidence adds up, that he is last person to see him everything. I mean, he obviously did it. The Jews are still trying to make excuses for what happened.
01:34:57 And the scenario was there were only three ex. Explanations, and they were all horrible.
01:35:02 No, there's one, there's one explanation, actually.
01:35:06 First explanation was that IRA did it. He was totally out there and said, I didn't do it. So he was like the greatest actor you could imagine. The second theory, we thought was a conspiracy theory, and that was even more here. That would mean that the CIA, the FBI, the KGB, was singling Ira out. The third element was that IRA did it, but that he actually used his mind to turn off the fact that he did this, that it was a moment of, you know, of losing control, and that he really wasn't IRA at that moment, it didn't have that classic psychotic he
01:35:44 wasn't
01:35:44 IRA. There's no other solution. There's no other explanation. What is there?
01:35:48 This
01:35:49 was a premeditated murder. He got her back from Fire Island so that he could murder her. This wasn't like a momentary lapse of judgment. He had a history of physical abuse. He was a sexual sadist. These people, they will go to the ends of the earth to defend him,
01:36:05 right? And his goy wife, too, was also like in, you know, denial about the whole thing. And anyway, so he, yeah, he went to jail. I think he died in jail. What around 20 2017 or something like that.
01:36:21 2020,
01:36:21 2020, yeah. So yeah. He finally died in prison after, you know, being on the run for what, like 15 to 1818, years, or something
01:36:31 like
01:36:31 17 years, he made it.
01:36:33 There we go. He
01:36:33 made it, yeah,
01:36:34 yeah. And the whole time living large, living with a bunch of groupies, a bunch of people who thought he was some kind of, you know, great mind that was going to change the world in some way, when, in reality, he was just some psychotic narcissist.
01:36:50 Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, what have what would have stopped all of this? An appropriate level of anti semitism, like a high level of baseline anti semitism in this country, would have stopped this entire crime, also his entire saga in Europe, it would have stopped it there too,
01:37:05 right? No. And that's the thing is, with with just a little skepticism of the out group, yeah, you protect Well, first of all, she wouldn't, if she'd been raised, right? She would never have been put in that position in the first place. Yeah? And
01:37:19 although
01:37:19 this was her fault, you know, I like to say, did she deserve it? No, but she had it coming. She had it coming. Like, what are you doing? And this is, this is not just the out group. This is Jewish people specifically, because Marx had a lot of physical characteristics in common with Ira. He also was physically grotesque. Was very, very smelly, for the same reasons that IRA was, and he was covered in boils, and he was, like, really open about his boils. They were all over his junk and everything like that. It's like something about physically personifying the evil and and how disgusting Judaism really is. Like that gets them off sexually. It's like, it's like a sexual thing for them, like you're going to take this shiksa, you know, it's some kind of weird humiliation ritual,
01:38:10 right? So that is the story of the unicorn killer. They actually did a bunch of they did a movie, did a TV movie. I didn't want you said you watched it. I didn't really watch it. I do have, here's the this the promo for it. If people want to see it, it's on the whole things on YouTube
01:38:28 and NBC, motion picture event. He inspired Williams as the creator of Earth Day, found the girl of his dreams and killed her based on a true story.
01:38:40 Do we have any idea where he is? Didn't anybody think to take his passport
01:38:44 a father's global manhunt. Help me find out what happened for the notorious unicorn killer that captured the attention of the world, for the unicorn killer, NBC Sunday in three weeks,
01:38:57 terrible.
01:38:58 Don't watch it.
01:38:59 Well, yeah, it's funny. They made it sounds like they made like the father, a main character, the father actually committed suicide before he saw the killer of his daughter brought the justice, and then, as her mother, his wife, died of emphysema two years later. So
01:39:14 the
01:39:15 parents never got to see justice. Her three sisters were the ones that kept it alive. I guess to some extent. Do you notice that how all three of them had red hair? How unusual is that? I
01:39:26 don't know if they're Irish, then not that unusual,
01:39:28 all three of them, though. That's,
01:39:30 yeah,
01:39:30 that was a weird anyway. So that is the story of the the zebra killer. So let's take a look, I guess, at the little stupid intro thing is gonna play again. If I switch back to normal, we're gonna do normal, we're gonna do it
01:39:43 anyway. I'll turn we should talk about
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01:41:06 All right. Well, let's take a look at rumble chats here. So we got the shadow band says, I think I sent you about this much via entropy. Hopefully you can recover your account. Yeah, entropy has gone under, and they're not responding to people's emails. Some of the very small creators have received their money, but they still owe a lot of people a lot of money, and they're not answering emails.
01:41:33 And there would be nice,
01:41:36 yeah, I sent them an email last week, giving them the deadline of Monday before I start exploring other options, they did not even reply to tell me they got the email, and Monday has come and gone, so I am currently exploring other options to get our money, because that's not just my money for the insomnia stream. That's, as you say, That's the money for word outlaws that was sent there.
01:41:56 I'd be so pissed if I sent money to entropy and then I knew it did not get to its intended destination, I'd be so fucking furious, and I don't want to give too much information. I don't want to out anybody. But there are some content creators that are in deep on this one, like life destroying amounts of money,
01:42:15 right, right? And it's a crime. Let's just think about it. Everybody on the right used entry because there wasn't really any other options. Well, especially until rumble came around.
01:42:26 Yeah,
01:42:26 and the it's bottom line is, it's just the the lack of professionalism, just telling people what's going on, like it's one thing if you don't have the money to pay people for whatever reason, right? That second is, if there is, long as there's a plan in place, and you let people know about the plan in place, but they're not even answering people's emails. So it starts, it starts to look like rug pull. It starts to look like Ponzi scheme. And I'm not saying that's what it is. I have no evidence of that yet, but yeah, that's what it looks like when you don't tell anyone anything, they have to use their imagination to fill in the blanks,
01:43:00 right?
01:43:00 So, but I appreciate that shadow band, and we'll see. Like I said, I've heard some very smaller, you know, not making fun of but like people, they don't owe nearly as much money. To put that way, got some of their money this week, but we'll see what happens. Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense, why you wouldn't pay everyone at the same time, or, you know, at least the people you owe the most money to first, instead of people you only 100 bucks to, because that's what makes it look weird. But anyway,
01:43:32 yeah, and you waited a long time to say something about it. You've been waiting for money for
01:43:37 Yeah, yeah, I
01:43:38 was, I
01:43:39 was pretty patient about it. I know other people have bailed on them before and said some things publicly about it, and I made a lot of noise last stream about it, because I was hoping that Monday would roll around. You know, some of that might get back to them and they'd feel embarrassed and want to do the right thing. But apparently, that's not, uh, that's not the case. But,
01:44:03 yeah, I've seen the live chat. Somebody said entropy can't help but the global financial Gremlin stop them from accessing the financial system. Be patient. Yeah, but they're not communicating with
01:44:12 anything. They're not even telling, like, how do you first of all, how do you know that you know, did they email you? Because they didn't email
01:44:18 me, email us? Yeah, they
01:44:19 didn't email anybody. Like, everyone I've talked to, everyone I've talked to, has said that there's been no communication. They've sent several emails, and they're not getting responses. And that doesn't look good, because, like I said, if all they did was email me and say exactly that, like, look, you know, there's some problems, because, you know, the global financial system or whatever that okay, I understand that. But what's the plan? You know? What's the what's the ETA? And
01:44:46 that
01:44:47 money doesn't just disappear, it gets locked up. But the way they're behaving leads me to believe that the money no longer exists,
01:44:56 right?
01:44:57 And that's really what concerns me. I mean, I think that they. Probably have spent it well, they're scrambling now
01:45:04 maybe, you know, maybe that's a possibility, and I hope that's not what happened, but that's again, you have to use your imagination when people aren't telling you what's going on. And, yeah, it'll be a big blow to a lot of people if that's what happened. And then you'll have to wonder, you know, was there more to this? You know, maybe this was intentional. But who knows? Hopefully, again, hopefully they're just really unprofessional and don't care that people are, their livelihoods are, are, are, you know, they're basically causing this kind of anxiety unnecessarily to a bunch of people because they're too busy. I don't know what they're doing, but they're
01:45:44 gonna wash out major figures on the right,
01:45:47 right, right, absolutely. And that's, that's a that's a big deal. So we got dagtastic says, hail Devon and and Rebecca. Appreciate that. A risen Ryan says, Becca. Looking like it. Look at it. Girl from the bell bottoms era. Could see her Hawking vowels on Wheel of Fortune.
01:46:08 Thank you so much.
01:46:11 There we go. Then we got a USS Liberty says, not sure what the price of your books are going to be on Antelope Hill. Hopefully this covers my pirating the first one like a dirty Jew. Still plan on buying both. Well, I appreciate that. And, yeah, it won't be super expensive. I like to make things I'm not one of these guys where I'm like, here's a book that's like, 10 pages long, it's $80 it's like, I like to make it price what a normal book would be. Then we got wolf supremacist. Says, In the words of my wise Jewish neighbor, boop, boop, beauty.
01:46:51 Oy, vey, thank you guys. I love you both. Well, I appreciate that wolf supremacist. Then we got Astralis, says, I found a gay link on a beehive started in the Obama regime for Devon to look at. Oh, you mean it's like, it's the the White House bee? I'll take a look at that afterwards. But thank you very much. Asterless seven to five, Northern Michigan that we got evergreen dream says, Rebecca, you're probably tired of guys asking about the backlash. But did you ever get to keep that Nazi silver piece, or did you lose it in the divorce?
01:47:34 Man, maybe I should talk about this. How much should I say I want to piss off Dave. You know, so spiteful. But he did go online and say that I stole $4,000 from him, which is not true. We all had access to the bank account, and that was like a month of back income for a few of us. And he was trying to get me to sign this incredibly ridiculous NDA with where I would have to pay if he ever heard that I had said something negative about him in private conversation. And so I just wanted him to change it to defamation, and, like, just, just change this to defamation, then I'll sign it, and I'll give up all the rights, the backlash and everything like that.
01:48:15 And he just would not do it. Like every separation agreement he sent to me was, like, increasingly ridiculous with indemnity clauses and all this other shit. And I was like, I can't sign this. And so we went through, he made me go through this contract negotiation for like, weeks and weeks and weeks, and then eventually I was like, I'm just gonna get the income that I've earned out of the bank account.
01:48:36 I didn't take a cent more, just what I had already earned and was specified in our agreement, and then I'll just let him keep whatever else. I'll let him keep the content. And that's when he started DCMA, my YouTube channel. So did I get anything in the doors? No, I was like, just take I just want the income that I earned, which was like $2,000 and and then he went online and said that I I hacked into his bank account and robbed him.
01:49:04 There you go.
01:49:06 Crazy, right? Nope, but I lost, I lost that silver piece in the divorce. Short answer
01:49:10 I hear he's a big fan of homosexual Mexican snitches. I
01:49:17 wonder what he's doing about this now, geez,
01:49:20 I think he's, he's still a big fan, from what I understand, there's like, there's look, there's people that will never go against what, who they think is the most popular, they will, and that's what motivates what they do. It's clout chasing. And I will never do that. I've never done that. And it's, it's unfortunate that so many people, I guess, one of the good things about the what's happening with Nick is you're given the opportunity, whether you take it or not. It's up to you. You're given the opportunity to see who is in it over principle, who actually cares about white people and who
01:49:59 cares and. About
01:50:00 internet points and being famous and all that shit,
01:50:03 dude, if we're
01:50:04 not going to have principles, then what have we destroyed our reputations for?
01:50:09 Right now,
01:50:10 after you do this job, you can't it's, it's like you have to live on the fringes of society. You can't function a normal society anymore. And what do we sacrifice that for I didn't do it for some, you know, Mexican homo. I did it for white people, for white people. And we have to be principled. Otherwise, this was all, you know, it was all in vain.
01:50:34 Well, and like I said, it's, it's no different. It's funny, because there's so many people that will sit there and bitch about, oh, the boomers. They were lazy, so they hired Mexicans to do all this work for them. All right, look at this Mexican over here that I'm in love with. It's gonna do the job of the white man. It's like, Come on, guys like you, you are the boomers. You're literally being the boomers instead of watching TV or watching a stream.
01:50:56 But, I mean, that's, that's the extent of it. And, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, just the idea that, you know, that the leader of whites should be someone who's not white is insane. It's, it's insane. And that's, I think that's just how browned out the younger generation is, you know, compared to the average zoom. Or maybe he is white, you know. I mean, which kind of sucks that that's, that's kind of a symptom of the problem now, but you don't a symptom of the problem isn't going to solve the problem, you know?
01:51:28 Yeah, yeah. So,
01:51:29 all
01:51:31 right, then we got Tomahawk says Devon had to catch the replay of your Friday stream, your explanation of how white nationalists discovered the JQ was spot on for me, at least, yeah, and that's true is that's the other thing too, is everyone's acting like a gay Mexican snitch came up with the JQ, you know, like that, that no one knew about the JQ until he came around. And it's like, if you were red pilled by a gay Mexican snitch, you are the new fag. You are the low human capital.
01:52:03 Lily Gaddis tweeted about this, and then I retweeted it because I wanted to get some kind of polling from my audience. And I said, like, who red pilled you? And then I put a picture of Barbara Spector, because that was the beginning of my journey in like, 2016 millennial woes sent me that Barbara Spector clip and another clip about two Jews living in Europe, and one of them said, like, the last thing that I'll do before I leave Europe is spit.
01:52:27 And this was, I've always been, like, skeptical of of Jews because of my personal experiences and living in New York and everything, but, um, but this was when I was like, what? And then, and that's how it happened. And then I had all of my audience, you know, tell me what it was for them. And not one of them said it was Nick Fuentes. He didn't invent the JQ like, I'm glad that he brought it to the forefront that people are talking about it now, but he's backtracking so spectacularly that, you know, we have to think about about the gains here. And that is what Leonardo. Leonardo Joni made such a fantastic video about this this week. Did you watch it?
01:53:03 I saw like, a clip of it. Oh,
01:53:05 it was so good. I encourage everybody to go to our channel and check it out. But we have to think like, it's not, it's not really an argument to be like, well, he's done some good things, because to be credible in this sphere, you have to do some good things. I mean, that's the nature of controlled opposition. You can't throw some somebody into the ring that has totally dissimilar ideas and everything like that.
01:53:27 They have to say 80% of what you want. And we did this with Trump. We learned our lesson with Trump. He was saying the stuff that we were desperate to hear said. And so we overlooked these massive flaws, just massive loss, and in the end, we were burned spectacularly. So are we going to do that again? Are we we need to be discerning? And she says that she prays for God to give her discernment.
01:53:50 And I think that's really what makes some people in the dissident right a cut above. Are they discerning individuals? And so I don't want to do this thing like I and I'm going to be the first to say that, like, after the Charlie Kirk thing, I just fell. I fell for the Nick thing. I bought. I haven't always been a nick skeptic, but this fissure with Dave and everything, it just made me realize that, like, I cannot fall into another cult of personality, because what happens if he dies? What happened? You know, any number of things. I don't want to have a single chosen leader.
01:54:23 I'd be real broken up if that happened. What a shame.
01:54:27 Yeah, but I got caught up in two in it too, because he's a he's a master orator, and because he scratches that itch like sometimes he says something and you're like, ah, that is what I needed to hear, hearing somebody else say it in such a way. It's just so viscerally satisfying. And I did get caught up in that. And then I started seeing, seeing the quality of some of the groupers, and I was like, This is not what I thought it was. It's not it's not what I thought it was. So I made a mistake. I was wrong. Elle blonde,
01:54:57 yeah, I mean, it's just he's. Obviously there to de radicalize people. He's already doing it. In fact, I think saw a clip today where he's telling people that we need to step back the criticism of Israel.
01:55:09 What?
01:55:10 Yeah, that's today. You haven't
01:55:13 seen that? Is
01:55:14 it? I guess it's probably a clip from his show last night, but
01:55:18 I don't watch it. I've been researching this all day, so I haven't been looking on Twitter. I mean, is this a product of this Dan lazarian risk?
01:55:24 Yeah, yeah. He's doing the whole again. It's, it's, it's walking it back, walking it back, being more moderate, trying to be the new Charlie Kirk.
01:55:35 I don't like it. I don't like it,
01:55:37 yeah? Well, because it's, yeah, it's bad, no matter you look at it,
01:55:43 yeah. And for my audience, go back and watch Devon stream from Friday. It was he gets really mad, like, really, really pissed.
01:55:50 I hate snitches. I just fucking hate and like, that's the funny thing is people try to make this, they turn it into, like, this Finkle think binary light switch, brain bullshit, where it's like, Oh, you don't like Trump, then you must like Biden, you know, it's like, no, like, no, and oh, you don't like Nick, then you must be on the side of Dan Bilzerian. And it's like, I don't know him. No, I'm I just don't like Nick. I don't have to like someone else if I don't like Nick, you know, like, that's, that's not the way the world works. You know, I don't like there's not, like, a set amount of people that I have to like, and if I get rid of one, I have to start liking some other person, you know, like, that's, yeah, that's stupid.
01:56:30 The binary thinking is a huge problem in our sphere.
01:56:34 It is, you know, you
01:56:35 remember Dave's crash out on the backlash. I wonder if he took it down.
01:56:40 I saw a clip of him saying that, like, you know, basically that if you don't support Nick, that, like, you know, that's like, the future of mankind. And it was, it was like this. It was crazy over the top, you know, ball washing and,
01:56:54 yeah, he got so mad at me, and I levied it was some, like, tepid criticism of Nick, and he just absolutely unraveled. I don't know if that show exists online anymore, but JF did cover it in that stream where he says all those really gross things about me, if you if you want to go watch that one, but I think that's kind of the gripper mentality. It's like, if you criticize him at all that it's a denouncement of his entire philosophy, because he is America first, but he didn't invent America first. Pat Buchanan is, you know, the, you could argue that he is the originator of the America first philosophy. I mean, he was talking about Jews and the 80s,
01:57:32 right? And you could go even further back, you know, to, you know, the Lindenberg or Henry Ford's of the world, you know, like there were people, and in fact, they use those terms America first, prior to World War Two. Yeah, that was, that was a slogan to keep America out of World War Two. The Boond in America said, you know, use the slogan America first, you know. And so you have. It's not like, you know, he, not only did, he just borrowed it. He recycled something that already existed, which is literally every one of his views, not Nick hasn't come up with anything original, everything. In fact, 90% of what he says now, he got mad at people saying just a couple years ago,
01:58:10 yeah,
01:58:10 yeah, he was, he would be optics cucking and saying, you can't talk about Jews because, you know, like that. I guess that's optics, you know, bad optics. And then for like, two years straight, that's all he talked about. Was fucking Jews.
01:58:24 Yeah. So no, this pisses me off about the movement. We need to have more self confidence in our abilities here. We don't need to pin the origination of these ideas on on one person. We can think critically about things. We can come to conclusions on our own. And I think we need to set a higher standard for leadership. We've done this with Trump, like we we need a leader that really represents the maturity of the movement. And I think it is, I think it's maturing in a way that that people people want, that there's a desire for something like a little more adult in the movement now,
01:58:58 well, and race matters too, you know, because, for the same reason why you can't trust a Jew who might appear white and maybe even sometimes identify as white when it's convenient, Jews will always go back to their you know, their real identity as a Jew, and their priorities will always be to their race, which is Jewish.
01:59:17 Nick Fuentes has 0% blood relation to the founding stock Americans. He has 0% it's not just the fact that he's part Mexican, which is that is a big deal. It's not just the fact that he is a racial chameleon, in the same way that Jews are, where he under pressure on video and often says, I'm not white, I'm Mexican, when in the same way that a Jew would say, I'm not white, I'm Jewish, like there's no discernible difference whatsoever. He it doesn't it's not even the fact that he often talks shit about Anglos and founding stock Americans, and talks about how, you know they're based. Basically incapable of helping themselves, and they're there. He believes the Jews when he calls them dumb goyim and and that, you know, he thinks they're dumb, going to it's he the fact that he hates poor white people, but he loves rich black people, you know, it's, I mean, race matters for the all those reasons.
02:00:17 Course, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I think that the crux of the issue here, outside of whether or not he's a Fed, is like, do we have to do this big 10 conservative thing? And I shouldn't even call myself conservative. I'm really not, and I think it's just a losing it's a losing proposition. We don't need numbers. We need quality. And the people that have quality are the people that are that are sticking to their principles rather than the cult of personality. And that is, this is a culling event, and this will illuminate the Vanguard that can now emerge. And I'm, I'm happy to see it happen. It was very predictable the way this played out.
02:00:53 Yeah, you can't have a narcissist like that at the top of an organization, leading anything, or you end up like, you know, with, in Nick's case, you'd end up with Mexican, gay, gay Mexico. Imagine if Trump was gay, like his, his behavior is already, like, shitty because he's got like, that ego and he's a narcissist, but if he had like, the fag tendencies on top of all that,
02:01:16 yeah,
02:01:16 it's just too much. It would be. It'd be absurd, like, the the amount of backstabbing that Trump, I mean, it's already absurd, the amount of backstabbing Trump is capable of. But if you as a homosexual on top of that, I would just be like, oh, forget about it. We, we'd already be in world war three right now for the Jews.
02:01:32 Yeah. So before we move on, though, one more thing on this. Once you introduce an idea into the public sphere, it belongs to this public sphere, the public sphere. It's not it's not your idea anymore. And all of us should be doing this so that we can change the consciousness, so that we can connect back to our ethnos. That's what, why we should be doing this. If we're attaching it to any individual, then we're already lost here. This is about the people. This is about the country to a lesser degree, and if you're not doing it for that reason, then you're doing it for the wrong reason. You can't be trusted,
02:02:06 right?
02:02:07 If you're doing it to gain power as Nick clearly, is, which is why he cozies up to people who are fundamentally opposed to us if they have more clout than he does, and why he throws anyone that he feels threatened by because of their popularity, not because there's any conflict of Well, unless he's not who he says he is, not that there's any conflict of interest. He's quick to throw anyone under the bus that is on the side of white people, if they're not, you know, bending the knee to him.
02:02:36 Yeah, exactly. And a lot of people are like, Well, you guys are just jealous that you haven't gotten the the the scale that Nick has. And it's not jealousy, it's more not that I would ever want to be that famous. I think that would be a nightmare. I think it would be life ruining to be that famous. But I do have a resentment that, like, we're still the kind of movement that is accepting these narcissistic personalities rather than people that are really putting forth ideas for the right reason, like it makes me hate the movement, and that's why I'm I'm angry about it,
02:03:10 right? And I in no way want to be the leader of a movement. I'm, no, I'm a podcaster. You know what I mean?
02:03:17 Yeah,
02:03:17 I'll tell you what. If I'm bitter about anything. I'm bitter that more people know who Nick is than they know who Jared Taylor is. You know, yeah.
02:03:25 I mean, not
02:03:25 that Jared Taylor is good on the Jews, because he's not. But, I mean, there's people like that that are old school, that have been around a long time that well, that most of the world has no I exist. But to be honest, most of the world doesn't know who Nick is, either his his popularity is way exaggerated on platforms like Twitter. Not that he's a nobody. I mean, he is obviously he's been covered by mainstream media, and I'm sure he'll continue, he'll continue to be covered by mainstream media, because he that's the that's the movie he's making, is to be a mainstream pundit. And you know, so he'll be around for years to come in the same way, like look, even though most of us don't ever think about him. Ben Shapiro is still out there, you know, even people like, even Bill O'Reilly For fuck sakes still does a show. And Glenn Beck, you know, all those guys are still there. They're out there, you know, but no one you know. So like,
02:04:18 they'll be like, about doing a show about how you can recognize if somebody has controlled opposition, and I think that that's still an important show that maybe we should do in the future. But one of the things is that you can't trust anybody that wants to be famous, because it takes a massive personality defect to want that kind of life like imagine what Nick Fuentes life is like on a day to day basis. He can't function in society normally, without fear, without being recognized all the time, like my I'm small enough that I can just live my life and like no one really knows what's going on, and everything is normal. But to desire to be like in the spotlight all the time when you're grocery shopping, it takes you have. To have something wrong with you. Why would anybody want that? It seems like a nightmare well,
02:05:05 and everyone, I think on some level, knows that. That's why, even though it's it's probably bullshit. It's probably just part of the mythos around George Washington. You like the whole story about like he didn't even want to be president. Like the reason why that was such a good myth, which it probably is a myth is, and the reason why it sticks with so many people is people have a instinct to trust someone like that, because they know that they're there.
02:05:29 You know, they're like the reluctant leader that's doing it, not because they want to be famous or because they want to be the president or whatever they're doing it. In fact, a lot of that same myth was, it was a total myth. Was, that's what they would say about Trump, right? Yeah, yeah, it was. It's total bullshit. Trump loves being, you know, obviously, but, but the reason why they made up that myth was on an extinction level. People realize that's the kind of personality type that should be leading is the people that yeah, don't, aren't doing that of some selfish reasons, so they're not the funny funny enough. They're not getting rewarded the same way as a narcissist would be rewarded, because a narcissist will be rewarded simply by getting, you know, the adoring fans and
02:06:12 the accolades and everything like that. This is why I like Aarvoll, though, because he did not want to be president of return to the land. He didn't want to do this, right? But he basically was the best person for the job. And so he was like, Fine, I will do this. And I think that that makes him trustworthy, that makes him appealing in a way that Nick is not
02:06:33 right, absolutely, all right. Oh, speaking of which, I think I'm going to be streaming with return to land tomorrow at seven o'clock Central. I think,
02:06:46 okay, cool.
02:06:47 So where
02:06:48 can
02:06:48 you find that Devon,
02:06:50 I don't know. Actually, I just got invited, like, literally, right before we went live, and I said I could do it, and then we went live. So maybe, I don't know if he accepted the acceptance, but dense, but I think it's seven o'clock at central time on I guess whatever I think they must be on rumble, right return to land has to be on rumble.
02:07:11 After that whole speech I did about about being famous, I'm going to chastise you for your lack of shameless self promotion. I'm just a walking contradiction today.
02:07:20 Yeah, I'm not. I don't, I don't know. I don't like to, I just don't think about it. I got a job that I like, I like, I'm in it for the research. I'm in it for the the the education.
02:07:33 It's so fun. That is my favorite part of this job.
02:07:36 Oh yeah, when you find out, like, Oh, here's this, here's a scummy Jew. Oh, god, he's got, oh, wow. The scumminess never stops with this guy.
02:07:45 It
02:07:45 never stops. And like, sometimes, I don't know, people probably understand our process, but like, sometimes you get into a video or a script or something like that, and it just yields nothing of value. And then sometimes you get into one like this, where it's like, every twist and turn has some kind of layer to it, and it's so, like, this was such a fun show to prepare for,
02:08:08 right? Yeah, there's, there's some that sound really good on paper at first, and then it's a nothing burger. You're like, All right, yeah, some Jews did some Jewish thing. And, like, that's the end
02:08:17 of
02:08:18 it circus, yeah,
02:08:19 that's not all that interesting, you know, but then, but then, like, Yeah, this guy, it's like, it starts off like some Jew killed a bitch, and they're like, holy shit. It's not just that's not, that's not worth that's not where it stops at all.
02:08:30 Yeah,
02:08:31 all right, there we go. Yeah. Churro man says, revoke this or revoke his white card. But Taco Bell is far more Mexican than Nick's DNA and character could ever be Mexicans have enough on our plate. Fuck that faggot. He ain't ours. Godspeed fellow racists. Well, I appreciate that churro, man. I'm assuming you're Mexican. I would say, yeah. Well, look, that's the thing, just like Tim pool he's racially confused. That's why Tim Poole obviously will never be a white nationalist, because he's half white, half Korean, and anyone that's mixed race has these kinds of identity problems. In fact, think about it. Who, out of everybody was the most vocal against race mixing in the last decade? It's been Nick, who's a product of race mixing, and so, you know,
02:09:23 and IVF,
02:09:24 yeah. So think, yeah. So think about that for a second, like, why would someone who is the product of race mixing and IVF, both things he's against, be so vocal against it, unless, on some level, it's because he hates himself, which a lot of narcissists do deep down, and so it's just, you know, he's trying to, he's trying to stop, prevent more people from being like him. Because you do have these confused racial identities, not just with him, but any mixed race kid, you know that they're not white, they're not this, they're not that. It.
02:10:00 They're not anything you know, like, what are you gonna go to? Like, some happen nationalist party you know, like, where you're you're one of, like, the the tiny percentage of mixed white, Asian kids. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to do that to your children or to yourself, really. And but, yeah, he's that's the problem is, you know, it's funny, people were saying he's only 17% Mexican. But in terms of genetic distance, the the Mestizo blood was isolated from European blood for so many 10s of 1000s of years that it's not just a matter of percentages.
02:10:44 It's a matter of what it's a percentage of when it comes to genetic difference, just like if you have a glass of water and I put a droplet, or, let's say, I put a few grains of salt in the glass of water, you'll drink that, and it's not a big deal if I put the same amount of botulism in that glass of water as I put salt, you're gonna fucking die, even though it's the same percentage water, right? But one is like, way worse than the other, and the Mestizo blood is so separate from the European blood because of the ISIL, yeah, the genetic isolation that took place with the natives. He is more genetically distant. I found, like when I was looking at this, he's actually more genetically distant from Europeans than Ashkenazi Jews.
02:11:35 Really,
02:11:36 yes, yes, really, because of that, because of that genetic factor, not, not all austrasse Jews, but like, the the, like the Eastern like the net Yahoos of the world, right? So, yeah, it he's, yeah, you could say, well, he's not, he's not really Mexican. It's like, he's not anything. He's not really anything, you know?
02:11:56 He's like, Italian, Irish, Mexican, whatever the fuck, right, North African. And so that's why he'll never be pro white, because he's not white, and he's never going to be pro America in the same way that a founding stock American is going to be, because he has no blood relation whatsoever to any of the founders, any of the original colonists, any of the people that fought in the Civil War. He is a late comer.
02:12:21 His genetics came here much later, from foreign lands, and he's a mix of different foreign peoples and so psychologically, if nothing else that matters, you know, like when I think of my ancestors, I think of like the pioneers. I think of the people fighting the Revolutionary War. Those were my people. And so I'm always going to have a fondness for that, or at least a some relatability to that, and a in a desire to preserve what that meant and and for almost no other reason, because that's like the whole thing with white nationalism is it's your family. You're that's, that's why you it's, it's not like an esthetic thing. It's not even an IQ thing. If it was an IQ thing, we'd want to be flooding our countries with Asians or whatever. But we don't want to
02:13:16 do that
02:13:16 either.
02:13:17 And the reason that we abandon libertarianism is we all understand now that it is an impossibility for humans as a whole to to sublimate their tribal and genetic desires in favor of a personal philosophy. And I think that this is expressed really well in Nick because at his end game, although he does have a lot of self awareness and he has a very high IQ, his end game is always going to be to carve out that area for his people and his race, even if he doesn't realize, which I think he probably does, but even if he doesn't realize that that is what he's trying to do, and that's what all of us are trying to do, and that's what white nationalism is about, just recognizing that this is the people that we are, that this is going to be our biological desire, and kind of just accepting that there's nothing else that can be put in front
02:14:06 of
02:14:07 that, right? No, we're all driven by our our our biological needs to ensure the prosperity of our genetic lines. And Nick is just not part of my genetic line, and I'm not part of his. So, yeah, that'll always be the case.
02:14:27 We can't respect a man with tummy troubles. I just, I just can't do it.
02:14:31 Tummy troubles.
02:14:32 Oh, he always talks about how we like, can't stomach certain foods. And I'm just, I believe in the gut microbiome, and it like being a very important marker of biological hardiness and health. And so, like, If a man can't eat old Taco Bell or whatever, right? Like, I gotta, I've got a stomach ache. I'm like, Whoa. You have no genetic fitness. You should be killed on the spot.
02:14:57 Well, mixed race, mud, mud. IVF baby, you know,
02:15:01 IVF actually destroys the gut microbiome of children, so they have a much higher rate of IBS and other diseases like that, autoimmune gastrointestinal diseases. Yeah, IVF is a huge problem. Don't get me started
02:15:14 on that. Yeah. Well, and, you know, obviously the other genetic issues he's got in the homosexuality, and, you know, which, which look his his twin sister is also homosexual. So
02:15:24 is she really? Yeah,
02:15:25 you didn't know that.
02:15:26 No, I didn't. She's very beautiful, though
02:15:28 that's, that's my understanding. I look, don't quote me on 100% but that's people have been saying that for years, that she was a wokey. Maybe she, I don't know. Maybe it's one of these things where she experimented in college. But my understanding, college, but my understanding was she was like a wokey leftist lesbian,
02:15:46 yeah, but
02:15:46 lesbianism isn't real,
02:15:49 yeah? Again, like I said, it could just be like a college thing, you know, whatever.
02:15:53 No, I think sexuality is more fluid in women like you. To be a man and take a dick in the ass, like you really have to be committed.
02:16:01 Yeah,
02:16:01 commit to the bit there. But like women, it's like, I don't know we that's fine.
02:16:06 Yeah, you have to really commit to the Nick there. All right, we got, all right, so we got tomahawk. Says, Rebecca, how the hell do you find all these fucked up stories?
02:16:15 This was actually Devon's pick this time I was going to talk about the Jewish circuses, but there just wasn't a lot there. It was like, Yeah, circuses were owned by Jews, and that was pretty much, yeah,
02:16:26 pretty
02:16:26 much it. But they do a combination,
02:16:28 like, there's still something there, yet
02:16:30 there might be something we might talk about that in future. I don't know. It's like a combination of, every time a listener suggests something, I put it in an outline, and then I do some I've done some AI training where the AI thinks that I'm Jewish, and I'm trying to steel man an argument, like an anti semitic argument. So I like, I've really trained the AI, and then I asked them questions about, like, crimes that Jews have committed, and things like multi racial crimes, crimes against white people, financial crimes, and then, you know, keyword search.
02:17:00 I can't tell me. Times I've told AI, I'm preparing for a debate against a white nationalist, and I want to understand their their thought process on this particular subject. Please. Steel man, this position, and give me citations and examples.
02:17:16 Yeah, exactly. I'm making the thumbnail today, and so one of my AIS wouldn't do the yarmulke and the stink line. And so I convinced it to do the yarmulke by telling it that I was, I was Jewish, and all this other like, I'm a Jewish student, and I just want to, you know, to steel man, this argument, blah, blah, blah. And then I had to put the stink lines on with, with grok, which will do anything. Grok will, grok will do it
02:17:41 almost anything. It still fights on me sometimes,
02:17:44 yeah,
02:17:44 yeah, but yeah, it's, it's way less much of a bitch when it comes to to doing text or image generation.
02:17:53 Yeah.
02:17:54 All right, then we got Mayo supreme 88 says this is a prime example of where Goys can't prosecute a Jew in Gentile court if the punishment will be considered too harsh by Jewish law. We did. I'll tell you one thing, though, that whole town Philly must be so jewed up because the prosecutor was a Jew. And the, in fact, everyone that was a Jew, except for the Italian cop that found, like the actual homicide detective that found the body, and then the Italian cop that worked in the extradition office.
02:18:35 And, in fact, I cut this out of the story, but because just, I mean, it was just a minor thing, but that Jew that ran the radical newspaper, one of the things that drove the Italian to stick with the extradition for so long is when he went to go meet with that guy to find out where if he knew what the whereabouts of Ira was, he says, You'll never find him because he's smarter than you, And you'll never find him because you're not smart. And so the Italian guy's like, oh yeah. And that's that was like, the fuel that fueled his fire to Yeah, to make sure he got that fucking Yeah,
02:19:12 I saw that, yeah.
02:19:13 So let's see here. Then we got Mayo supremo says Halacha, yeah, that's the name of it. That was the the you can't turn another Jew in. So that's why all of his Jew friends were not cooperating. That's why the Bronfman woman, likely, at least, that might have been part of the motivation for her to pay for him, because, yeah, he would be tried for killing a goy by a goy court, although I'll tell you those court drawings. Did you see the sketches? How many black women were on the jury? What the fuck man
02:19:49 sweating there for a second. Oh, we talked about this with the Jewish police force episode. That's what it was.
02:19:55 Yeah, fucking Philly man. That's just seems interesting. It seems like it's been. Chewed up for ever. I
02:20:02 want to go there. Still.
02:20:04 I've been there. It's nothing that's
02:20:06 not that
02:20:06 great, awesome medical oddities museum. And so I am you want
02:20:11 to see like mutated people in a jar?
02:20:13 Well, they have like a 40 pound colon that I want to see.
02:20:18 Oh, good.
02:20:19 It's a
02:20:20 40
02:20:21 pound colon
02:20:21 it's a medical oddities museum called the mooner Museum. I've always wanted to go. It's a lifelong dream. So my husband told me, like, I will pay for you to take a weekend off from the kids, because I've never been away from my kids before. And I was thinking about, like, what do I want to do? And I was like, I want to go to this museum, but it's in
02:20:38 Philadelphia,
02:20:40 and Philly cheesesteaks are not all they're cracked up to be.
02:20:43 Yeah? I mean,
02:20:44 they're all right, but the way they act like they reinvented, like the sandwich somehow, and it's like, no, it's just, it's just a sandwich with like, meat in it,
02:20:52 yeah, fine.
02:20:54 They
02:20:54 have an elephant Titus leg too. Also, this doesn't interest.
02:20:57 Oh, elephant Titus leg.
02:21:00 None of this does anything for you.
02:21:02 No, yeah, maybe we should do one about the circus so you can get have fun with the freaks.
02:21:11 Oh, yeah, I've seen that movie many times.
02:21:15 The freaks.
02:21:16 1932 one
02:21:18 of us, one of us. We got Professor chaos says, I'll check out the replay later. Keep up the good work, guys. Thank
02:21:26 you. Appreciate
02:21:27 that. Let's see that we got love and a vision told me to check Odyssey. Odyssey says, What happened to the lynch mobs that took care of Leon Frank, by the way, people Antelope Hill promo code outlaws without the quotation marks. There you go. Yeah, that's, that's another problem is you had you were up to, it was up to a Jewish da and it was up to all of these Jewish lawyers the judge, I'm not sure if they were Jewish or not in the case, but the judge that gave him bail in the first place, obviously that was a problem. Yeah, when they should have just lynched him the second, they found the body in his closet that he was and it smelled like death. And you know, there's no way, I don't care how stinky this fucking Jew was, there's no way he didn't smell a dead body in his closet for 18 months, and he had the keys, not only to the lock, the padlock, but also the keys to the the trunk. So, I mean, there was enough evidence to where, like, right off that, like, immediately, within like, 10 hours, he should have been hanging from a
02:22:42 tree. Oh, yeah, for real,
02:22:44 that's actual speedy trial, right there. They should have tried him in the streets. They should have said, Guys, guys, there's a dead chick in his closet. And that would that's the trial. Everyone's like, oh, well, I guess he did it. Let's do it.
02:22:58 Yeah.
02:22:58 That really should be it. I'd be like, I'm convinced, you know, kill him, but yeah, instead, how much money was spent, you know, I mean, like, how much fucking going
02:23:09 chasing him around on his shiksa, banging journey of in Europe and everything,
02:23:15 and fuck all those European bitches that were like lifestyle. Then we got mayo. Supremo says, Have you seen anything about the Chud, the builder, live streamer, guy, apparently he was, he shot some Nick today while live pretty wild. Yeah, I did see that
02:23:34 one day off Twitter,
02:23:36 yeah, no, I didn't. Again. I was preparing for the show, just like Rebecca was. So I just saw that it was on Twitter, and I saw that he wasn't dead. And I was like, okay, so he shot someone. He got he the tweet I saw said that in shooting the other guy, he accidentally shot himself in the arm too, or something like that. So I guess there was maybe a scuffle or something. But he's, he's not, you know, he's not in any physical danger,
02:24:04 okay, right? That's the important thing. Yeah,
02:24:06 he still looks normal. He was, I saw there's a picture of him on a gurney, and he was, like, alert and normal looking. So I think that both
02:24:16 sustained gunshot wounds,
02:24:18 yeah, so we'll see what happens with that. Legally. We got ambun says ambidextral gunfighter here, Kindle book promo for outlaws and insomnia stream fans, look@ambun.com All right. Well, there you go. Does that mean you're ambidextral gunfighter or you do actually do, like those, those quick draw competitions, like, I don't know if that's really what you do, but there are, there are people that do that, and they, they they're just as fast as with their left as they are with their right hand. That'd be cool.
02:24:58 Anyway, course, we got. SS says, Hey, Devon, I bet you could do a really good remake, some reimagining of everyone's favorite German marching song, Erica. It's not all of our favorite topics. Oh no, it's got all our favorite topics, Germans, girls and bees. Keep up the good work. You too. I appreciate that, and I don't know sometimes the AI I use will freak out on public domain lyrics. It'll think either it's it's copyrighted, or it'll just say it won't do it for no reason.
02:25:30 Like I tried doing this, like I was trying to mimic the song from Brother, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Where they find the KKK guys in the in the forest, and they the head KK guy starts singing, oh death, where he's like, Oh dear, oh, because it sounded really cool, and I was trying to get the AI to yodel like that, but also have like a fucking hardcore, like techno beat in the background. And if I and that's like it, that's a traditional song. It's obviously in the public domain. And if I tried using those lyrics, it would tell me that it was copyrighted.
02:26:08 And then I mixed them up a little bit, and then it just wouldn't do it, and didn't tell me why. So, yeah, we'll see. Then we got natural order. Paul says, Rebecca, can you get a copy of my novel, Secret Hitler from Henrik and lotta next week. I hope you appreciate how it deals with issues of controlled opposition, infiltration and non binary thinking.
02:26:31 I will order it online so that you get some of the proceeds. How about that?
02:26:35 There you go. Then we got truth. Forger says, love your hair tonight. Devon book track grooves says, scripture for today is Judges, chapter two. Hope you guys are well, the quartering is crashing out. That's more drama that like I've just sort of like seen in the periphery, where he was like, erasing channels that I guess they had with like count donkey. I don't know. People are just losing their minds. The last, you know, couple weeks, everyone's crashing out. I don't know what the deal
02:27:16 is.
02:27:16 Maybe it's, you know, it's just a we're getting close to Armageddon. Then we got art Stanton says, Yes, Rebecca, I'm very pissed off that money I sent the Devon never got to him. And what if it was all a Fed Up Now I'm imagining having all my anti semitic chats read out in court,
02:27:35 dude, you and the rest of us, though, yeah,
02:27:37 I don't think it's gonna be like that. But I, in fact, I'm not. I'm I'm gonna try to remain a little optimistic. But it's with every passing hour it looks like there might have to be legal action taken.
02:27:55 Yeah,
02:27:56 then we got Reinhardt says backlash. Episode 90 is Dave's hissy fit, ultimate griper crash out. Even if Nick were a great man, this level of worship would be emasculating. But all of this for Nick zero self respect is a red flag.
02:28:13 I was very proud of my conduct and that behavior in that that situation, I was I was proud of myself. I didn't lose it. I did the angry mom thing.
02:28:24 Well, I noticed that, and the other thing that struck me, and I like whatever, I don't try not to get into the drama, but I'll just tell you, I thought that it was weird, especially because I've heard Nick say on his stream that he thinks Dave is disgusting and that he hates him,
02:28:43 yeah,
02:28:44 and so if someone thought I was disgusting and they hated me, the last thing I'd do is fucking licking their balls. And it was some supreme ball washing that was going on. It just was, there's objectively It was,
02:29:00 yeah, we would fight about that sometimes offline.
02:29:03 I just don't get it, you know, I don't
02:29:05 know if somebody, if somebody, is like, You're dead to me. I'm like, You're dead to me too. And then I move on exactly.
02:29:13 I'm like, please, like me, please.
02:29:15 I know, I don't really understand it.
02:29:17 Yeah, it's like battered wife syndrome or something.
02:29:19 No, it's more like, it's like a dad, it's a daddy thing or something. It's, you think it's our leader, our dad, our father? Yeah,
02:29:28 no, strong father figure, kind
02:29:31 of, oh
02:29:31 no, no. His dad is actually great. Um, I don't, I don't know. I think that once you sacrifice for a cause, you kind of, kind of have to go down with the ship.
02:29:41 I mean,
02:29:43 I don't think you do. You can just admit you're wrong.
02:29:45 Yeah, well, I don't
02:29:47 know. So hard for people, yeah,
02:29:49 well, it's, it's hard for stupid people. I think because it's like, you know, the stupor you are, the more you. Have to try to prove that you're not an idiot, you know, yeah, and the more you have at stake, and the more angry you get when people call like, if you're actually smart, and someone calls you stupid, it's like, if you were really hot and someone called you ugly, it wouldn't bother you that much, you know. It's like you're like, okay, whatever you know, like, you would just know that that wasn't true. And people that aren't very smart, that get called out for not being very smart, are the ones that lose their fucking shit. So I think it's something like that. You know, I don't
02:30:30 know.
02:30:31 Professor chaos says it seems Nick wants to be the pope of right wing political or political discourse, if you have to lick his taint to get the blessing,
02:30:40 that's true. There is also a religious element here,
02:30:43 right?
02:30:44 So, like, I was on a telegram group called One time, I think Reinhardt was there, and then Dave told me, this was the beginning of that. Dave told me that Nick is the Holy Spirit speaks through him, and so he's the anointed monarch of the dissident, right. And I was like, and so it's like, blast. It's blasphemy to speak against No. Reinhardt was there. I was not the only person that heard this, so like, I don't want to miss characterize what he said, so maybe we should ask Reinhardt.
02:31:13 But I was like, no, no, I'm Catholic, and that's idolatry first of all, and I was like, Absolutely not. Am I going to endow an individual who's who's not even a cleric? Not that I would do it for them either with with like God speaks through, through them, and they have to have that level of respect for me. Like you're in danger, a dangerous territory. If you're endowing an individual with that level of of respect, like you're you're in deep
02:31:47 that's how cults operate. 100%
02:31:49 Yeah,
02:31:51 yeah, that's, that's total mind raped cult behavior, right there.
02:31:56 Yeah. All
02:31:57 right, we got great Wahidi says, I'm late as hell. Guess I'm replay gang the Central Park Five. Any interest in covering those twisted negligence
02:32:07 that story is so fucked up?
02:32:09 Yeah, it comes up from time to time, and I
02:32:11 just, you cover it.
02:32:12 No, I haven't.
02:32:14 Oh, we got it. We got to cover this on our
02:32:16 I've thought about it. Yeah. I mean, maybe we could do it for outlaws, yeah, because it's, it's one that, like, I know other people have covered in the past, but I think we would probably do a better job.
02:32:28 Yeah, yeah, it's so obvious that they did it.
02:32:32 Yeah, I've from the little research I did, I was like, Yeah, okay, they obviously did it. So yeah, that's possible, that's possible. Then we got art Stanton says, I'm from Philly. That's a major reason I'm so J pilled. Exposure to how awful they are at a young age really helps. Well, I'll tell you. His Jewish friends talked about how they were always getting into fights in their Jewish neighborhood in Philly. So there was that part of it too. All right, and that's all you got on rumble
02:33:05 now to entropy knives. All right, let me pull up you two. Are you good on your on your whole donation end?
02:33:15 Yes.
02:33:16 Okay, let's see. This is episode 10, Lucian. La chance. Am I saying that incorrectly? I'm sorry if I am. Kudos to Devon's recent epic rant on the insomnia string. Yes. Kudos to Devon um, you know, sometimes when you get into that like OG Devon zone, it makes me excited for the future, yet also nostalgic, and it's like a really special place. Speaking of the ball washing, we're going to glaze Devon over here. Jacob vinkleman, glad it's over for the Mexican Get active peacefully. I agree with most of that. It's up to the viewer to decide what I disagree with. HWP, missed you guys last week. Great stream. As always, all tiny hats into the roof hole.
02:34:10 Now I agree with all of that for sure. Aggie jet pilot, I was talking this week with another military pilot about the US hitting Iran, basically for Israel's interest, and caught myself thinking nothing, the roof hole couldn't fix, almost randomly laughed when it popped into my head. Yeah, thank you, chief reveal. Oh. Jacob Winkelman, again on Dave and Nick, we need to sunset this term, but the way they look out for each other is super brown coded. I like that term. White people have freedom of speech to debate, not to suck up to people with a great vocabulary. Yeah, I mean, I don't understand why we can't just be like, we have disagreements, but we have a common cause, and the only reason that we can't do that is because we we don't have a common
02:34:55 right. And
02:34:56 that's really the problem. And. Quake. He says, people accuse you of purity spiraling on Nick, but these critics ignore Nick. Purity spirals on anyone who counter signals. His flavor of the week takes, yeah, he goes just nuclear on people for just minor transgressions a lot. He does that a lot, and that makes me also suspicious. It's like, you know, I don't think that we should all be getting along irrespective of you know, these major ideological fissures that we have, but there needs to be some semblance of unity to the degree that it's appropriate,
02:35:32 right?
02:35:33 Shell Beach, hey, Devon, have you ever looked into the story of hurricane Reuben cater, another famous black Marty martyr. Is that what he means who had made, who had a movie made about him, who I suspect is full of shit, Hurricane Reuben. Cater,
02:35:51 never heard of that, but I'll add it to my notes here.
02:35:56 Thank you so much, and see me rolling, I think is the last one interesting show today, guys, what is the schedule for the reset show I am on with Cameron MacGregor every Thursday at noon, Pacific Standard Time, please head over there tomorrow. Donate. Help us get the show off. I mean, we started as this little project just to see how it goes, but I think that there's really something there. Sometimes you just have to start a podcast and then just kind of let it, let it evolve, let it see if it has teeth. And I'm having a great time doing it. I love having these fun shows with Devon and then doing a serious one the next day. It's it's really scratching all the itches. But if you haven't checked it out, I do a show called The reset with Cameron MacGregor on my YouTube channel, Blonde of the Belly of the Beast. My second YouTube channel at Rebecca Hargraves one. We stream it on my Twitter, which is at blondes, underscore tweets, yeah. It's called the reset. It's great. It's fantastic time. We keep it to an hour. It's a it's a nice, tight little show. I think I'm good over here. Let me reload.
02:36:59 Okay.
02:37:00 Oh, it's Ruben Carter. That was a that was a typo in the Super Chat,
02:37:05 alright, I just fixed it. So you get over there.
02:37:12 Yep, that
02:37:12 was the last one.
02:37:15 Alright, guys, well, thanks for joining us on The Outlaws show, and make sure you tune in to the Insomnia Stream this Saturday at 10 o'clock Pacific time, pm, of course, for the insomnia. And as Rebecca just said, her show, also the what's it called?
02:37:35 Devon. Have you ever watched it? Devon?
02:37:38 I've seen parts of one.
02:37:39 He doesn't watch this show either. I feel like I'm kind of cheating on both of you. I just,
02:37:46 I don't, I just don't watch a lot of shows these it's been, it's been a busy month for me, so I just haven't watched a lot of stuff. But, yeah, you know, I, I'll check it out. I'll check it out.
02:37:58 It's okay. You don't have to. I'm
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