Outlaws： Episode 11, The Central Park 5 - 05/20/2026

00:03:48 You are watching Outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.
00:03:56 All right, welcome to another exciting episode of Outlaws,
00:04:09 anyway. Boy, we've got something to talk about today.
00:04:14 Yeah, happy Wednesday, everybody. Hope everyone's having a good.. yeah, it's crazy. May is almost.. well, it's on, it's on its way out already, right. We're, how hot is it
00:04:24 there?
00:04:25 Not, you know, it's actually pretty nice still. Weirdly, it's.. I think that in about five days that'll be over for about three and a half months, you know. But her
00:04:37 living situation is my hell. I would get heat stroke every single day,
00:04:42 that's not bad. What about the winter?
00:04:45 Not acclimated for the desert. What are you doing there?
00:04:48 See, but we white people have the ability to create technologies that allow us to adapt to any environment the white man decides to plant his flag.
00:04:58 You have not had air conditioners. Actioning for like years.
00:05:02 Well, I got AC now. It's kind of nice,
00:05:04 kind of nice. Oh my god, if it's not 69 degrees in my house year round, I lose my shit. I'm gonna do so badly when society falls. I will die first. I'll be.. it'll be like, oh, it's 80 degrees outside, I'm just gonna fall over dead.
00:05:20 Well, your body does act, your body changes, so like I'd say if it starts to get below even like 75 I start putting on coats and like scarfs and shit.
00:05:32 Oh God, so I don't know why, but that makes me hate you,
00:05:35 you know. It's because I'm tougher, tougher, and more powerful.
00:05:40 Well, how do you do in cold weather?
00:05:42 Just as good, of course. Obviously, I just realized you're talking to a black screen. I just realized my little thing isn't working.
00:05:50 I'm always talking to a black screen.
00:05:52 Yeah, but soon you'll be talking to like a fancy logo that is moving to the sound of my voice. Let's see here.
00:05:59 That's not much improved.
00:06:01 There we go. Look at that.
00:06:02 There we go. I'm yet to get Devon to turn his camera on. I'm always like, turn your camera on. He's like, no, I have to wire it to the blood. It is like, whatever. Fine.
00:06:12 It's, it's, I have security measures here that cannot be circumvented, even even Netanyahu puts a sticker over his camera on his phone, something that everyone should do.
00:06:23 We're all out there. It's time.
00:06:26 Yeah. Well, anyway, we tonight, or today, rather, we're talking about the well, some, some would say the Central Park Five, and some would say the Exonerated Five,
00:06:40 and they would be incorrect because they're they were vacated, they were not exonerated. Boy, I thought I knew about this crime until I really got into it. I was like, I knew I always thought they were guilty, but I knew nothing about this crime. I didn't know how guilty they were. I have no sympathy for people that fell for this one. No sympathy,
00:07:00 zero. Yeah, it even give you any kind of like flashbacks to like the, the what was
00:07:09 it, the, the three,
00:07:09 yeah,
00:07:11 no, well, no, because I actually thought that they were innocent for quite a while, I was really sold on that one, I think at some point I actually donated to the Innocence Project, oh my god, but it was like 15 years ago. Throw me a phone here.
00:07:25 Well, I'll tell you what, the Innocence Project, that they, I mean, they're the ones responsible for things like this, you know. Oh, yes, that got her behind this, obviously. And yeah,
00:07:34 it's such bullshit. I was looking into false confession rates, and a lot of that data comes from the Innocence Project, and like, you can't, you can't base the levels of false confessions on data from the Innocence Project. They are evil, they are evil, evil organization that gets guilty people that, that there's a tons of evidence against out of jail for serious crimes based on public pressure. They need to be disbanded.
00:08:01 Well, they be thrown in jail themselves. So, anyway, let's.. I guess, let's.. we have to get in a time machine. So, let's hang on a second. We're gonna go to our little time machine now. We're in 1989 1989 and because a lot of people, in fact, that probably a lot of our listeners weren't even live in 1989 1989 was special in New York City, was not a nice, nice time. I mean, it was, I guess, if you worked in Wall Street, you know what I mean, like you were doing pretty good, but unless you lived on Wall Street or worked in Wall Street and lived in like the fancy parts of town. It was a hellscape.
00:08:44 Oh yeah,
00:08:45 it was a hellscape. Where I mean, think about all the movies, like Escape from New York, and shit like that, that they produced like around this time period. They did that for a reason. They did that because it was, it was very dystopian. They didn't want to use their imaginations too much.
00:09:01 Yeah, yeah, we're gonna see a little AI voice clip. Sorry about that, but I couldn't find a lot of really good footage. I saw like individual crimes, bodies getting carried out of houses, and some of the crack and stuff like that. But I wanted to see the roving gangs. I couldn't find any footage of the roving gangs. That's what I really wanted, but it was just a nightmare. It was like a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
00:09:25 There was just open prostitution, especially in Times Square. There were pimps, people were getting murdered left, right, and sideways. The crack epidemic had totally swept through the entire city, and the gentrification was happening kind of strangely. So, there would be one building filled with crack heads, and then the next building would be like the nicest boutiques. Some of the stuff happened on like Madison Avenue and the Upper East Side, which is, you know, now one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in New York, was a total shit hole.
00:09:57 Yeah, and so let's play this little clip. Can I set the. Stage, I guess, to give you like an idea of what it would be like if you were chilling in New York in 1989
00:10:09 At the heart of New York's descent was the crack epidemic, a crisis that turned some neighborhoods into war zones. Crack wasn't just another drugget, was cheap, highly addictive, and utterly destructive. By the mid 80s, it had spread like wildfire, gripping communities across Harlem, the Bronx, and Brooklyn. The effects were immediate and devastating. Families were torn apart as addiction spread through homes, leaving children abandoned or raised by the streets. Violence exploded as rival drug gangs fought for territory, and soon even innocent bystanders became victims. The statistics were terrifying.
00:10:49 In 1980 New York recorded over 1800 murders, but by the decade's end, that number had skyrocketed to more than 2200 the highest in the city's history, carjackings became so frequent that people drove through red lights at night rather than stop and risk being pulled from their cars at gunpoint. Store owners were forced to install metal grates over their businesses to prevent looting. In some areas, entire apartment buildings were abandoned, taken over by squatters and drug dealers
00:11:22 sounds great.
00:11:24 Yeah, I sent you a little clip that I thought was so funny, but the subways were the worst place. It was no man's land down there, and I saw this clip from the early 80s where this guy had robbed a bunch of people, and then he got robbed, so that's what it was, I mean, people were having, they had like decoy wallets and all this stuff, nobody reported muggings, it was just part and parcel of living in the city, but it really was back then,
00:11:50 yeah, it wasn't, we weren't, it wasn't like the Seinfeld 90s New York that that people grew to love, and honestly, that's why they elected Giuliani, who was a Republican, you know, that's why New York City finally had enough, and they said, all right, we'll get this authoritarian type, well, I mean, slightly more authoritarian, that's why they started doing stop and frisk and all this other stuff, because the NIGs were out of control, basically.
00:12:15 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and a note on the homicide, so 2200 homicides a year, that is a staggering number. It sounds like it's not that many. It is six a day during this era, and there were only seven people living in New York, 7 million people living in New York at the time.
00:12:31 Now there are, like, I think 19 or 20 million. St. Louis, for a point of reference, the most dangerous city in America, outside of Baltimore, maybe Detroit, they had 140 homicides in 2025 and that is like shocking, and I think that their peak was around, I don't know, 600 so I mean, even adjusted for population, 2200 is that is a crazy number of homicides annually, and I don't even know what the rape statistics are.
00:12:58 Oh yeah, well, I don't think, yeah, I mean it's probably, is there even the recorded rape statistics for that era?
00:13:05 Let me see,
00:13:07 because that's got to be insane.
00:13:09 This was 89 right?
00:13:12 89
00:13:14 there were 5300 reported forcible rapes in New York City,
00:13:20 so 5000 rapes in a year,
00:13:24 and those, that's the reported ones. I mean, some probably,
00:13:28 but one of those rapes took place on April 19, 1989 It started out, started out with a bunch of black people deciding to go wilding. I don't know if you guys have heard this term. They like to go wilding. It's a term that's still used today, by the way. It's not an outdated term. It means let's go commit violence. Let's just random violence will rob people, beat people up, rape people, burn stuff.
00:14:00 And you know, most of you guys are familiar with the George Floyd riots, you know, but that's wilding, I guess, so you know, to a degree, and they decided to go out wilding on April 19, 19 nine, in Central Park, and Central Park, a lot of people don't realize this, Central Park is huge, it's gigantic, and so even if you live in a nice part of town, well, especially in 1989 right, Central Park might be right next to where you live, but another part of Central Park is right next to where the Niggs live, yeah, and so it's like a little, it's like an evil forest where if you go in at night the Niggs will be lurking in this evil forest, but a lot of people, you know, I guess that I guess don't have that sense of don't relax about them, decide to go jogging and riding their bikes and this sort of a thing at night, to be true, you know, to be fair, the sort of things you.
00:15:00 Should be able to do, but you can't do if you live in a diverse reality, and so right around 9o'clock at night, a group of over 30 black and Hispanic men went into the park to go wilding, and they started assaulting people, and it wasn't long before lots of police calls started to come in, so this is a few of the police calls
00:15:26 we just got a call of a portfolio group, about 30 to 40 million Central Park tackling authority and harassing people in the fall, that 102 and East Drive in Central Park, it's a roving band,
00:15:40 a roving gang,
00:15:41 now that would be seen as so racist, but that is what they were. I've heard estimates of up to 50 people, but it seems like it was probably around, around 30 in this specific group. Yeah,
00:15:54 yeah, so they walked into the park, they just started beating up people that they saw, and when I say beating up, I mean beating up severely, injuring them to the point of unconsciousness and hospitalization, and so they, one of the cases was in fact a couple on a tandem bike that sounds like it's out of a cartoon a little bit, like tandem bike, but they escaped the Nigs, this, and it's kind of interesting.
00:16:24 This little clip that I found, this is from ABCs 2020 The black, one of the blacks involved with this, almost, he has like a look of like fond, like, like he's remembering, like, you know, oh, I remember that time when we, we tried to rape and murder that couple on the tandem bike, like he's got this smile on his face, like, oh, that was funny.
00:16:45 I don't know who it was, but one person said, "Get them.
00:16:49 All of a sudden, they jumped across the road.
00:16:53 It was actually terrifying. They were ripping at my arms and legs and clothing.
00:16:59 Yeah, here's the look, look, look at he's just like time we attacked them, white folks trying to murder them, so that's that's you know that was one of the attacks that took place, they chased after this couple on the tandem bike, we got more, there's more police calls talking
00:17:19 about
00:17:19 whites, though they're like, "Oh, let's go out on our tandem bike on a useful ride through Central Park, which they used to call Needle Park 40s and 80s,
00:17:28 yeah. And it wasn't for, because of pine needles, you know. Yeah, let's, let's go, yeah, let's go on our tandem bike and ride around in haunted Nick Forest. Seriously, and so here more calls started to come in about attacks on joggers
00:17:44 attacking joggers on the reservoir
00:17:52 in the vicinity of 96 and the
00:17:55 east drive is where the
00:17:57 roving band is
00:17:57 half I like how even the dispatchers calling them the roving band
00:18:00 and she's black. Yeah,
00:18:01 yeah, yeah. You'll find a lot of people in law enforcement in this instance are black, which will be contrary to a narrative that comes in later. And, as I'm sure most of you are anticipating, one guy, again, one guy was attacked viciously in the head. This is the call for, or one of the calls from that
00:18:22 serious head injury on this complaint. Can you have a bus respond forthwith to 95 knees
00:18:31 drive?
00:18:32 And so he's bleeding profusely from his head. This is the lead investigator of the case. He's also part black. You can tell he's got quite a bit of white admixture, which accounts for his light skin and higher IQ, but he talks about how it was, you know, he witnessed these people in, you know, in the process of doing their attacks, he was responsible for making some of the arrests that they made that night,
00:18:59 the victim looked like his head got dunked in a bucket of blood. He was beaten so badly
00:19:05 they had fractured his eye sockets. In fact, his eyes were almost beat out of his head. He was a former Marine, I believe. So, you had that, and then you'll have, you know, here's another call in regards to that, that incident
00:19:22 has a serious head injury, losing a lot of blood here.
00:19:27 So, people, these are serious, serious, serious wounds, people in danger of dying here. So, then we have.. I don't know if you wanted to go through, or let's see here. Yeah, you want to go through the, the, the, the individual victims before we get to the, the main fraction here.
00:19:49 Oh, correction, because someone in the live chat is pissed. Needle Park with Sherman Square on Broadway on the Upper West Side. I said that because I heard an interview for some from somebody that grew up in. In New York, and they were saying that that's what they called Central Park. I was unaware that I was incorrect about this. I'm sorry, for fuck's sake, do your homework. We did so much homework on this.
00:20:09 You have no idea how much homework,
00:20:10 just an incredible amount of homework. Okay, so this, this woman, she obviously was not the only victim that night. It was eight others who were attacked, and then the two men that you mentioned were the most savagely beaten, the one that you mentioned, John Laughlin, he was knocked to the ground, kick, punch, beaten with a pipe and stick, he was left unconscious, bleeding profusely, like that guy said, it looked like he was dunked in a bucket of blood, he was hospitalized for two days, and they were not life-threatening injuries, but some of the other people easily could have died. David Lewis, he was a commercial banker.
00:20:48 He was robbed around 920 and he had similar physical injuries. There were a few other people, Robert Garner, he was a corporate researcher, he was hit in the head with a rock and punched, and then another guy, David Goode, also hit in the head and punch. He ended up escaping. Yeah. And go
00:21:08 ahead. Well, and to reiterate that this is literally.. it was.. it was 3030 to 40 black and Hispanic men, or.. and by men, I mean they were young too. They were like ages 13 to eight, just children.
00:21:20 Devon,
00:21:21 yeah. And in high school, or in school, they planned this. This was a pre-planned event that night. They were gonna go to Central Park and beat up white people. That's basically what it was. They were gonna go to Central Park and beat up the rich white people and attack them, and it wasn't, you know, necessarily to get money out of them, because I don't think there was really any robberies. It was mostly just assaults. I mean, they're
00:21:44 robberies.
00:21:45 I mean,
00:21:45 they stole stuff too, but I mean, that I don't think that was the intent, you know? Like, there's easier ways to, to rob people.
00:21:52 It was more like an initiation, a hoodlum initiation,
00:21:56 right? And so they were just going there and just beating the shit out of people, and they were quite literally a roving band, and one of the joggers was a young woman who was jogging through Central Park. I believe this is a report talking about her. Let's see here
00:22:18 this morning, the woman jogger was found unconscious and bleeding by two men passing by at about 2o'clock this morning. We're told she was taken to Metropolitan Hospital, where she's being treated for a fractured skull and a serious loss of blood,
00:22:32 and by serious loss of blood, it's three fourths of her blood.
00:22:36 She lost 80% of her blood, and they're massively downplaying the head injury, she had two massive skull fractures, a subdural hematoma, and her eye was so badly beaten that I read one report that had basically popped out of her head, and another report that it had been beaten into her head and was being like absorbed by her orbital bone, that it was just destroyed inside her orbital bone. I saw a picture of her from today, and she, like, looked a little, a little wonky still.
00:23:05 Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, and her body was.. they didn't find her initially, so
00:23:11 they didn't find her until like one or 2am and they were not expecting her to survive,
00:23:17 right? Because after what happened was, they showed up, they rounded up some of the youths, as they say, and they took them downtown, and someone else just happened to hear her making some sounds down in this ravine, and they went to investigate and saw that she was in a pool of blood and just barely alive.
00:23:39 They hauled her to the hospital, and then all of a sudden the investigation that initially, because you got to remember, in the context of New York, with that level of crime that's going on all the time, this wasn't seen as a big deal until they found her, it was just seen as like another night in New York, you know, and
00:23:57 that is an important note, we'll talk about this later, but they were arrested before they even knew about her. They were arrested for John Laughlin, and some of them were convicted on some of these other assaults. So, like, they definitely - nobody can dispute this - is why they didn't touch this in the Ken Burns documentary documentary. My foot is, it is absolutely undeniable that they were responsible for some of the assaults that night,
00:24:25 right? Right. So, let's, let's see here, let's talk about, do you want to talk about who the they were?
00:24:36 Sure. All right, we've got Antron McCray. I was called, I was calling him Antoine all week.
00:24:44 Who names their Antron?
00:24:46 Well, I thought that you were making like a funny black joke by calling him Antron,
00:24:51 but
00:24:51 that's actually his name. He gave a videotaped confession, which we're going to talk about. Youth,
00:24:59 he's. 15, and he looks like, you know, that doesn't look like any 15 year old. I mean, he's basically, he's got, he's got to go tea.
00:25:06 I know, right? Do you know how we don't have mental retardation? We don't uphold mental retardation statutes when it comes to to black people in their IQ and crime. I mean, shouldn't we do the same kind of thing where we compensate them for their adjusted age, like this guy's 15, he's 30, that guy's 30. The other one, there's there's a 14 year old who looks like he's 25 like if you're black and you're above 12.
00:25:33 Tried it as an adult, I just try him as an adult. Absolutely, no discussion about this. So he was convicted of rape, assault, robbery, and riot. Later, acquitted of attempted murder, he served six or seven years in juvenile facilities, and now he lives in Georgia with his wife and six children. I wonder if they're all from the same woman. All right, then we got Kevin Richardson.
00:25:55 He's 1414,
00:25:57 yeah,
00:25:58 looks like a linebacker.
00:25:59 He's the youngest, I think. He was the one that said, like, "Oh no, it was.. it was Yusef, but he said, "Like, I was 15 or 16, but I really was, you know, 12, like what? He also gave a videotape confession. He was convicted on attempted murder, rape, assault, robbery, five to seven years in juvie, and now he's living in Jersey with his wife and daughters, and he's active in criminal justice reform and speaking engagements. Then we've got Yusuf. Oh God, look, it looks like he has no brain in the right part of his head, that's his haircut. But
00:26:34 yeah, well, he's he's one of them foreign blacks, like I don't know what country, I think maybe, maybe Haiti, maybe Jamaica. I don't know. Let's
00:26:44 look at how small his ears are. Look at those tiny little ears, dude. He did not give a full videotape confession, but he massively incriminated himself. He was convicted of rape, assault, robbery, and riot. He spent seven years in jail. Now he's an advocate for justice reform. Served on the Innocence Project board. He received an award from President Obama, and he was elected to the New York City Council, representing Harlem in 2023 And get this: he's the father of, guess how many? 10 children.
00:27:17 10.
00:27:18 This guy has 10 kids.
00:27:20 He's from Barbados, by the way.
00:27:22 Ah, there it is. Okay,
00:27:25 all right. Next
00:27:25 up, Raymond Santana. He was 14. He did give a video confession. He was convicted of rape, assault, robbery, and riot. He was the one that I watched the entire confession of. It was very incriminating. And he's in Georgia with his daughter, and he runs a clothing line.
00:27:43 Is this one of those base Latinos I keep hearing about?
00:27:46 Yeah, totally. And he's engaged in motivational speaking and reform advocacy. All these people turn this on. And then we've got the famous Corey Weiss. This guy, he was 16. He accompanied Youssef to the police station as a friend, and then he ended up being questioned. He did give a videotape confession, tried as an adult, convicted of assault, sexual abuse, and riot, served 13 years because he was tried as an adult, and he is also a public speaker in New York and founder, supporter of the Corey Weiss Innocence Project at the University of Colorado Law School,
00:28:22 and no frontal lobe judging. Yeah, look at that.
00:28:25 Where's his brain pan? What's in
00:28:29 there? Then we got that was it. So that was that's the five. So what happened was after they were, they were arrested, they they were well. First of all, let's go over what what happened. So, the five of them were in that group of Wilding youths.
00:28:51 Yes,
00:28:51 and sometime around 9o'clock at night, after assaulting several of the other victims, they came across Trisha Miley, let's just call it Miley, it has she has a weird last name, who was a 28 year old investment banker, and they spotted her, charged at her, grabbed her, beat her unconscious, and gang raped her in the bushes, and left her for dead, and then they ran off laughing, essentially, but, or at least that was the, that's the official story, right, and so they were arrested for doing that, and of course all the black people started chimping out, there's Al Sharpton when he was a gigantic cam planet,
00:29:40 Jesus,
00:29:41 and yeah, that's that's him,
00:29:44 dude. Some people should stay fat, though. I think he looks better than,
00:29:47 yeah, he does. He kind of has like that 1970s pimp look, instead of like the the AIDS pimp look that he's got now. But yeah, so he's, he's, you know, he, they raised a stink, they made it into. Instantly, they made it racial. Instantly, they made it racial. They said that it's the, you know, you wouldn't have done this if it wasn't a white girl, and you know you're only arresting them because they're black, you know, this sort of a thing.
00:30:14 As, as per always, I thought I had, like, a picture of their them getting arrested, but it's not in here for some reason. That's okay, so anyway, they arrested that the first night they arrested Raymond Santana and Kevin Richardson, who were they were arrested with the group of nigs that got arrested in the first wave, and then after interrogating them and the other people they had picked up, they then went and picked up Antron Youssef and Corey Weiss and interrogated them. The official story, of course, is they were interrogated with for hours without their parents present, and that the cops tricked them using Jedi mind tricks into making the false confessions, they would be.
00:31:06 Should I wait to talk about why this is bullshit, or do you want me to talk about it now?
00:31:09 Well, let's, let's wait till we, we, we see the outcome here. So they, they all confess to participating in the rape, and again, because they were held away from their families without the supervision of their parents, no lawyers, and all this other stuff. And then they were tricked by the evil cops into saying that they almost murdered a girl and raped her. As you know, as I'm sure that you, you could understand. I'm sure when you were a kid, that's something you could get a cop to get you to admit to after a couple of hours in a room, right?
00:31:46 Oh, I know. I, you watched a lot of documentaries and stuff from the other side, and so did I. And one of the things that I kept hearing was they were just kids, like going out for a walk, just raising a little trouble, like doing what kids do. I'm like, no white person has ever done this, like gone out in a roving gang with, like, a lead pipe and stuff to go attack, attack people of a certain race. No, this is not what kids do.
00:32:11 Yeah, when I was 14, I was playing video games and riding my bike, you know, and then playing street hockey, you know.
00:32:18 Yeah,
00:32:19 that was it. That was at no point where my friends like, hey, let's, let's get like 30 of us, we'll go downtown and just start beating niggs with a lead pipe, that'll be fun. So, yeah, so they try, they get convicted, despite the, the, you know, the black people in a rage, and interestingly enough, the the jury is very mixed. In fact, it's, I think it's like half black. There's there's a guy on the jury who's a member of the NAACP, and yet they still get convicted. They're sentenced to, well, they get well. There's two trials, really. There's the first trial that has, was it, which one? Let's see here. The two trials were
00:33:12 McCray Richardson and Salam and Santana. So the only one that was tried as an adult is Corey Weiss.
00:33:19 Okay, there you go, and then they were sentenced to various sentences ranging from five to 15 years, I think, with Corey getting the 15 year sentence right.
00:33:30 Yes.
00:33:31 Okay. Oh, here they are. That's that's one of the arrest pictures I was looking for. That's
00:33:35 14 years old.
00:33:37 That's Antron, I think,
00:33:39 child.
00:33:40 All right, so then there's a big, I guess, uproar in 2002 when Mattias, or Matthias Reyes, comes out and says actually he's the one that raped the woman that was raped in the park, and in fact, one of the pieces of forensic evidence they could never connect to the five was a semen sample that, when they did the genetic testing, did not match any of the five.
00:34:19 Yes, it
00:34:19 was in her sock, and I think her shoes had had flown off in the attack. I don't think it was on her body,
00:34:25 right? It was in a sock, and they connected it to Matthias Reyes after he confessed to doing it. He said he was the only one there. He was already in jail for a number of rapes, in fact, he raped his mother.
00:34:43 He did. He also murdered a pregnant woman in front of her other children.
00:34:48 Yeah, so this
00:34:49 guy was a real bastard. He was. He ended up being the East Side rapist, what they were calling the East Side Rapist. So
00:34:56 another one is based Hispanics and. So he says, well, I'm the one that did it, and this is when, of course, because of his confession, because of the DNA evidence, you had a lawsuit in 2003 filed, and in 2003 they sued the city of New York for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, emotional distress, and the litigation, because by this time all but one of them were already, they had already served their sentences.
00:35:36 Corey got out during this litigation, but when the litigation, because he, you know, he got out after 13 years, but during this, this process, they'd already served their sentences, so this was more, they were just, it was a shakedown, they were trying to get money, the mayor's office was, was basically tying them up in endless litigation, and wasn't going to pay up until Ken Burns, Ken Burns stepped up to the plate. Good old Ken Burns.
00:36:08 Of those of you who've seen the Pat Con series that I did, you'll know that a lot of that was inspired by another work of Ken Burns. Ken Burns, who's a master leftist propagandist, who's not Jewish himself, but it was married to two different Jews, and his daughter is Jewish, and she also worked on the, the, the documentary, but she was also working for the lawyers in this case that were trying to extort. Initially, they were suing for $100 million trying to get $100 million and after the release of this Ken Burns documentary in 2012 which had an obviously one-sided view of the events, and made it seem as if these five little boys were just out having a good time, and they got caught up in something that they had no plan in participating in.
00:37:04 They just happened to be around, and they got railroaded because of racism, and they were falsely attacked by the racist DA office and imprisoned by the racist, you know, because, you know, New York City, everyone knows it's basically like the bite, like the South in the 1950s that which they literally say Ken Burns' daughter in her book literally says compares New York in the 1980s to the same racial consciousness of the the South in the 1950s which is absurd,
00:37:37 so asinine, it was such a multi racial city and everybody was at the behest of these, these black whims, these, their criminal whims. Ken Burns actually was clever in the way that he made this documentary. There's no commentary, it's just the accounts of the people involved, and so it creates this narrative that they were tried out fairly, and it plays on all the usual emotions without really him having to say a word. This is one of those documentaries that, if you fell for it, I.. I don't know, I don't know, man. Like, you got to be pretty dumb to fall for this one, I think.
00:38:15 But a lot of people think, you know, luckily for Ken Burns, and these guys are really fucking dumb, and so a lot of people were swayed by this documentary, and due to pressure from this documentary, which served as a propaganda piece to poison the well, New York did settle in 2014 for $41,000,000.40 1 million. million dollars.
00:38:45 Good Lord.
00:38:46 So they got, they got $41 million and then the icing on the cake was in 2019 a black studies major by the name of Ava Du Vernay, in I guess working with Netflix, a another organization that likes to shit on white people whenever possible. She put together a mini series called When They See Us, When they see us, and as she explained, the they, of course, and that is white people, and the us in that is black people, and so in white people finally see us.
00:39:34 When they finally see us, they, or they, or rather, when they see us, they see us as scum, they see us as evil, and it's a four part mini series where they completely fictionalize the entire event. They portray the black boys as you know, again in the same way, actually even more so than in the Ken Burns documentary, because it's entirely fictional and Shelly. And say, which will play in the second, that it was that she purposely made it, you know, biased and slanted, but it won an Emmy, and then they started.
00:40:09 This is when they started being known as the Exonerated Five. So this is the, the Emmy Award show, where they, they're the whole crowd stands up and gives a standing ovation to the the five nig rapists,
00:40:23 but most importantly, this is for the men that we know as the Exonerated Five,
00:40:30 it's for Raymond Yusuf Anton Kevin and King Corey Wise and Thank you so much. It's an honor. It's a blessing.
00:40:49 Black Power, Black Power, and this is a this is the filmmaker admitting that, yeah, she's she made it up because she wanted to be biased and slanted in her, in her storytelling,
00:41:06 when it comes to these stories, and us being storytellers, and we're vessels that are telling these, these truths. Do you ever find it difficult to remove your personal opinion, or your personal feelings, or do you ever feel like there were moments where you felt like you were almost too close and had to take a step back in order to give the story the justification that it needed to be told unbiased.
00:41:32 Oh, this is not unbiased, this is this is completely slanted to what I believe was never told and never said, and never seen, even 13th. You know, I tried to show as much as I could to give context, but I wasn't necessarily interested in balance.
00:41:58 Oh my god. Oh, we should mention this is from Devon Tracy's documentary on this, which was pretty good, at least what he covers about the case,
00:42:08 yeah, until he brings up the Holocaust,
00:42:10 he does, he does it twice, and he starts talking about how Steven Spielberg did a great job in Schindler's List, yeah, accurately portraying the Holocaust, I was like, I was like, oh, this is so good, and then Devon Tracy starts. I'm like, what are you so close? Yeah, shut up, dude.
00:42:27 Big disappointment, but yeah, so yeah, so she's, she's obviously saying that that she doesn't care about the truth, and that is, you know, unfortunately most people will not go through the trouble of actually looking at the confessions, they, they'll just accept the fact, or at least the fact, as they, as they're told that our facts, that these people were railroaded, they were, they were, they were interrogated for hours on end without their parents present, and they were, you know, they had food withheld from them, they didn't have any water, and they were, they would say anything to get out of this dark, smoky room with these racist white cops that were like punching them in the face when the cameras were off, unfortunately for them, we have, we have these confessions, and I was able to now the audio is really, really, really, really, really, really bad on these, but I was able, through using audio filters and AI, to clean them up pretty good, pretty decently.
00:43:34 And so I want to, even though it's going to take a little bit of time, I think it's important that we sit through and listen to in their own words what they had to say about this, and if it looks coerced to you, and if it seems like they are under these conditions where the coercion would likely happen, as they is presented in the movie, as it's presented in Ken Burns' documentary, as it's presented to anyone. Anyone you ask about the exonerated five will say, "Oh yeah, in fact, if you try to find these confessions, some of them are still on YouTube, they're listed as false confessions,
00:44:14 right?
00:44:16 Right, as in fact they're being used now as textbook false as examples of textbook false confessions that are a product of police manipulation
00:44:27 in law schools.
00:44:28 Right, so that is how much they have changed the culture. And I don't know, you guys take a look, and you tell me. First of all, let's get out of the way. This is in the very beginning, and this is true of all of these interviews, she makes sure that they have been read their rights, that they understand their rights, but also their parents are present, believe it or not. So, let's have a little look here, and again, the audio isn't fantastic, but I don't. It's as terrible as I mean, it's certainly the best version you're going to find right now.
00:45:07 Before I ask you about what math is, let me just ask, sir, could you please give
00:45:14 your
00:45:14 names, and was your relation to this higher quote? Your thought, and it's great. Also present in the room right now are Detective Wyatt and Detective Shia is from the Atheist Barber. Before I go any further, I want to warn you of your rights with respect to savings, if you admit.
00:45:31 So, his dad's there, his before you, I mean, just so you know what, because you're gonna hear him say some wild shit. Just know his dad is sitting in the chair right next to him as he says this wild shit that he was doing. Okay, and ask yourself, is this the kind of thing that if you were manipulated by a cop like previously, your dad's right there?
00:45:57 You have the right to remain silent and to refuse to answer any questions. Do you understand? Could you answer our letter, please? Your actions, anything that you say can be used against you in court. Do you understand? Ready to consult a lawyer now, before any questioning, and have a lawyer present during any question. Do you understand? If you have no lawyer, cannot afford a lawyer, a lawyer will be provided for you now, free of charge, before any questioning. Do you understand now that I've advised you of your rights? Are you willing to tell me the truth about what happened in Central Park in the night of April 19 of 1989
00:46:39 So he's obviously been read his rights, he knows exactly what you know he says, he understands his rights, and now he's, you know, being asked to tell him, all right, well, what happened? What exactly did you do there? Yep,
00:46:52 have you had something to eat this evening?
00:46:53 Yes,
00:46:55 you feeling all right?
00:46:56 Okay.
00:46:57 Why don't you tell me what happened on the night of april 19,
00:47:01 so he's been fed, he feels okay again. His dad's sitting right next to him.
00:47:09 Well, it will be a bunch of us bicyclists and jogs
00:47:19 now, since he, if you
00:47:20 don't,
00:47:20 yeah, if you don't understand Nick speak, yeah, that if you don't understand Nick speak, he says our plan was to go rob people and attack people in the park and steal bicycles,
00:47:32 yeah,
00:47:32 I mean that's not, if that's not like a, I mean, can you be more of a stereotype, we'll steal bicycles,
00:47:40 right,
00:47:41 so all right, so he already right out the gate. First thing he says, I'm gonna.. that's our plan was to rob and attack people
00:47:48 before you went into the park that night. Did you have any crack to smoke? Okay, so you didn't do any drugs, did you?
00:47:58 Drink.
00:47:59 So, you were pretty clear headed when you went to the park that night,
00:48:02 and they all say this, so that you can't blame that he was under the influence of some kind of drug or some kind of, you know, you know, he wasn't drunk or like that, he was clear headed.
00:48:15 Okay, what happened when you got to the gate?
00:48:18 That was his man, and you know everybody's near a beautiful man, but somebody yelled out, you know, they knew somebody missed her.
00:48:27 Okay. Well, what did this man look like? I guess
00:48:31 he's, he's saying so that the first man they encountered, they didn't mess with him because he was a black guy, basically, because somebody
00:48:39 understand a word that guy just said, yeah,
00:48:41 the first man they encountered, they don't attack him because someone knew him, and so they didn't attack him. And then he says it's because he was a black guy. So now we move on to what they, who they did attack.
00:48:53 What were the others doing while Kevin was struggling with her with the wrists? Okay, so
00:48:57 this is this is
00:48:57 the rape. So they one thing I clipped out because these are so long, and we watch all four of them confess to the rape, but all four of them also confess to the previous attacks that we talked about, where they attack the people on the tandem bike, they attack the people, the former marine, and some other guy, they say they threw him on a fence, and then they, they, they attacked a homeless guy, stole his food and stuff. So they're, they've, they're copping to all the other attacks, but we're going to focus just on the rape, because that's the big one that's in question here. So, this is the rape has begun.
00:49:39 What were the others doing while Kevin was struggling with her with the wrists.
00:49:42 Anton's no for our clothes, no purses pulling our hearts.
00:49:47 What was Anton doing to her clothes? Sean's getting more. What was she wearing? Were you getting closer?
00:49:54 Yeah,
00:49:54 you walked toward them. What did you. Anton joined him.
00:50:01 She's pulling north, and Kevin was pulling down his pants. No, says Lopez is smacking Lee in
00:50:11 case. Was she screaming?
00:50:14 She was just haunting me.
00:50:18 And you said that Kevin knocked her to the ground. He tripped her. What happened to her when she was on the ground?
00:50:26 Lopez came. He's holding my arms. He pants the arms with his knees on the knee cover her mouth like his hand. So he starts smacking.
00:50:37 Who did he smack her with? Where did he smack her
00:50:40 in the traits smashing me? Please,
00:50:43 was he where was he in relation to her body? She was lying on the ground with
00:50:47 this,
00:50:48 and he was behind her head.
00:50:49 Yeah,
00:50:49 and he was holding her hands. You said that he was kneeling on her arm, and what was he doing with his hands?
00:50:55 He was covering her mouth. Ladytimes, he was told he was smacking. He said, 'Sut up, bitch. I kept smacking,
00:51:00 and they tested his smack.
00:51:01 I did twice due to..
00:51:03 and did she keep screaming?
00:51:05 Just kiss smoking.
00:51:07 Did somebody stuff something in her mouth?
00:51:09 She picked up the brick and hit with the brick twice.
00:51:11 Where did he hit her with the brick?
00:51:13 I went on a face, but around here also
00:51:17 after he hit her in the head with the brick. Did she stop screaming?
00:51:19 Yeah, because she was like shocked
00:51:21 when you say she was too shocked. What did you see?
00:51:24 She just just did this. You don't do
00:51:26 nothing. Did she stop moving?
00:51:27 Well, you say she just stood there. Was she lying down or standing up?
00:51:34 The captor, he hit her in the head with the brick. Did you see if her eyes were open?
00:51:40 I see.
00:51:45 What was Kevin doing while Steve Lopez was holding her hands and hitting her with the fridge?
00:51:49 He was having sex with
00:51:51 what did you see him doing? Was he on top of her? He had to answer out loud and say yes or no.
00:51:57 Yes.
00:51:58 And did you see whether his pants were on?
00:52:00 Did
00:52:01 you take them all the way off and just take them down, or just built this flywheel down to dope and talk about that little task in these, and did he say anything while he was on top of her?
00:52:19 He's saying no, he was having sex with her. I saw you like trying to figure out what he's saying there. No, but so he's describing the rape in detail. He's talking about how they're every time she tries to make noise, they hit her, they hit her with a brick until she apparently basically loses consciousness, as far as you know I can tell. And then you know they're repeatedly hitting her about the face and they're taking turns raping her. He tries to minimize his involvement, as he'll, as you'll see here in a moment, but
00:52:46 they all do. That's why they say that they're
00:52:48 right.
00:52:49 We're conflicting, but because they're all trying to minimize their own.
00:52:51 Yeah, well, like if any of you guys have ever watched like these true crime channels on YouTube, where they have the interrogations, the same thing happens in every case, every. It's always the other person was doing. I was just there, and then Billy went crazy and started killing her. I was just like, "Stop, Billy, don't do that. You know, like, they always.. they always try. This is what criminals always fucking do when they know that you can't deny that you were there. So you have to try to make it seem like whatever you were doing wasn't that bad. So I'll continue here. Sorry, this is the worst out of all the audio. This one right here,
00:53:25 what did he do? When did he get on top of her?
00:53:28 Yeah, it was,
00:53:31 and at the point that he got on top of her, did she have any clothes on? No. Where were her legs
00:53:37 wrapped
00:53:39 around him?
00:53:40 Right, you know, behind,
00:53:41 behind you, her legs open and apart.
00:53:44 Yeah,
00:53:45 was anybody holding her feet?
00:53:47 Oh no, I just know Antoine's behind Kevin.
00:53:51 Could you see what he was doing? Where were you standing?
00:53:55 I was on the side, Kev.
00:53:58 Were you watching?
00:54:00 I was behind the eight
00:54:02 tits.
00:54:03 He literally just, for those who don't know, couldn't hear that he was saying he was there playing with her titties.
00:54:09 Yeah, in a false confession, why would you add that much specific and lewd detail?
00:54:15 And that's
00:54:15 never happened.
00:54:16 And spoiler alert, that's not the only time he mentions this. He seems to think that that's going to get him out of trouble. The arresting officer said that he saw this is Raymond Santana, saw Raymond Santana essentially as one of the ring leaders ordering others around during the assaults that he witnessed, not the rape necessarily, but during the other assault. So it's hard to believe that his only involvement would be, as he said, playing with her titties, but that he think he seems to think that this is going to get him out of trouble.
00:54:48 And again, we'll go to a statement he made in the police car after being arrested that wasn't allowed in court because he hadn't had his Miranda rights read to him yet, but is in. Police report.
00:55:02 Were you standing up or kneeling or sitting down beside you with you leaning over? I was on my knee thing. Who has her shirt on? Did you know where her shirt was? Do you know where her bra was? So, while Kevin was on top of her, was he laying on top of her, and while he was doing that, you were feeling her breasts with both hands.
00:55:28 How long did you do that?
00:55:29 Only found me
00:55:32 five minutes again. This guy, it's hard because it's like really bad audio. AI is trying to clean it up, but the guy talks like a retarded nig.
00:55:39 I didn't saw it
00:55:44 and you did that while Kevin was having injured first of her. Did Kevin say anything while he was on behalf of her? You have to answer out loud.
00:55:52 No,
00:55:54 was Anton singing?
00:55:55 No.
00:55:56 Did Steve Lopez sing
00:55:58 when he was saying a shut-up bit, and he smacked him? I smacked him,
00:56:03 so they're obviously
00:56:04 say that, either right, that this has none of the hallmarks of a false confession. I've watched so many of them, and it's always leading questions, short answers, they don't elaborate on anything, and they lack specificity almost every single time.
00:56:20 Yeah, they don't add any detail, and he's, and again, his dad is sitting right next to him, and that's also probably why he's mumbling and rocking back and forth in his chair and looking nervous, because he's basically admitting to raping a girl with his dad sitting next to him.
00:56:38 Earlier tonight, when you stroke to Detective Sheehan and Detective Arroyo and your brother was present.
00:56:47 Yes,
00:56:48 so even when he was talking to the police before the interrogation that was on videotape, his father was was there at the interrogation and during that discussion, so this whole idea that like the cops poisoned his brain and put all these ideas in his head doesn't add up, because the first thing the cops did after they arrested them and brought him downtown is they called the parents.
00:57:10 All the parents showed up. In fact, the only reason why we don't have a recording of Youssef is his mom from Barbados, you know, the criminal country of Barbados already knew, you know, you don't, don't talk to the cops, so she, she said they were going to talk to the cops, so that's the only reason why we don't have any video of him.
00:57:31 When this woman was first grabbed, you said you first saw her, Kevin Richardson was holding her wrists, was he saying anything to her?
00:57:40 She was just, just trying to put eye hers in. How does it seem as jogging
00:57:43 when she got knocked down, and you said that Steve Lopez hit her in the head with the brick? Was she bleeding? Was she bleeding? Why?
00:57:58 And they also try to minimize the blood because you know she was bleeding a whole lot, we'll get to specifically another comment made by one of them when they went to the crime scene, that is, that is pretty incriminating, but you got to remember it's it's not just in Central Park, it's at night where there's no, there's no lights, they've pulled her away from the path, they've pulled her into a ravine, so it's like almost pitch black. I mean, obviously you have the city light, ambient light from buildings far away, so it's almost like a full moon, I guess you could say that, like that kind of lighting, but it's all very dark.
00:58:37 Who else had sex with her, besides Kevin Richardson? Did you see him? You said that he had sex with her. He got on top of her, and his pants were dead, and her legs were spread at that time. And did he penetrate her? Did he put his penis inside of her? Did he say that he had? Did he say that he had
00:58:57 seen?
00:58:58 But you could tell. Yeah, how could you tell
00:59:00 she's supposed to do games
00:59:04 well? When he was doing that, was he moving up and down?
00:59:07 Yeah, because I seen him,
00:59:08 and so you could see that he was doing, thrusting up and down, thrusting into her.
00:59:12 That's how I know he was having sex with..
00:59:14 and when he was on top of her, how were you able to put your hands on her breast?
00:59:18 You wouldn't have freaking on top of.. he was just.. he had his arms up like this.
00:59:22 Could you see where he was inside of her?
00:59:27 Yes.
00:59:27 And when he withdrew from her, could you see his
00:59:30 penis?
00:59:33 No, did he have an erection?
00:59:37 Well,
00:59:38 so this is another detail. I mean, again, sorry that he's, you're trying to have to listen to this fucking retard here, but another detail is they say, oh well, DNA evidence, right, DNA evidence, the the semen sample that they found didn't match any of these, these boys, well, when you actually listen to the confessions, the boys themselves, the. And the ones that meant to being on top of her and raping her, not just fondling her breast, they all say they couldn't get an erection, and they didn't come.
01:00:07 Yeah, the other thing that I wanted to mention, so people that have really low IQs have poor spatial reasoning, and he was able to just immediately say, like, in what position he was in, in what position the other guy was, without even thinking, he just kind of knew for somebody with a low IQ, they would really have to think about, like, the spatial orientation of the body and where they were standing, and things like that, it just, it just came to him, so, like, this is obviously not a false confession,
01:00:35 yeah, and again, his dad is sitting right fucking next to him this whole time, they're not, they're not feeding him details.
01:00:43 Oh, when he was inside of her, you could tell that he had actually penetrated her, and that he was inside of
01:00:47 her.
01:00:49 Yeah, did he ever touch her breasts?
01:00:55 I think so. Yes,
01:00:57 you think so. Yes, but you're not sure.
01:00:58 Well, I know he was doing a stomach tour.
01:01:00 What did you see? He was feeling her up. Did you ever see him have anal intercourse with her? Did you ever see him put his penis anywhere else? Did he put his penis in her mouth? How long was he inside of her and on top of her
01:01:22 like
01:01:25 five to 10 minutes,
01:01:26 yeah, five to 10 minutes,
01:01:28 that is a long time,
01:01:30 right? I feel like that's probably an exaggeration.
01:01:33 There's no way, there's just no way. Yeah,
01:01:37 so then let's see here, I got this clip here.
01:01:40 When you went into the park that night, why did you go into the park?
01:01:44 So that's the we was gonna beat people and take bike schools and get money.
01:01:47 The
01:01:49 reason was to go and beat people, take bikes, get money, or I'll put it again
01:01:55 that night. Why did you go into the park?
01:01:57 I thought we was gonna beat people and take bike schools and get money.
01:02:01 Oh, okay.
01:02:02 Beat people take bikes and get money.
01:02:06 You went in to beat people up to take bikes and
01:02:09 minimum
01:02:11 and rob people,
01:02:12 and you were going with your friends for that purpose.
01:02:17 Yes,
01:02:20 so he admits that that was the whole point of going there, was to beat people and rob people, and again, his dad's sitting right next to him, they're not feeding him any details. This here is Antron, the famous Antron. Antron tells a similar story.
01:02:38 This is Detective McCabe and Detective Hildegrad. I think you've already met them. Also, present are, I believe, your parents. Could you each please state your full name? My name is Lily McCrack, and then what is your relation?
01:02:58 So, his parents are also there. They also read him his rights, which we'll skip through, and so he's been read his rights, his parents are sitting in the chair, both parents right next to him when he tells his story, so again this idea that they, they tricked him into it, and this smoky room will, you know, punch him in the face like, you know, some kind of gangster movie interrogation is bullshit.
01:03:22 Somebody, when you were at the 20th precinct, gave you, giving to eat, so you've had something to eat, and yeah, you spoke with the detectives earlier tonight, Sam. You gave them a statement. Yes, before you gave them a statement, do they advise you of your Miranda, right?
01:03:42 Yes.
01:03:42 Okay.
01:03:43 Why don't you start then and tell,
01:03:45 so he's been read his rights, he understands his rights as much as a, you know, 60 IQ nig can, I guess. And this is his story.
01:03:56 Use our continuous court, yeah. You seen this lady, jogging lady, yeah, she had on Bruce West in a white ricer, she's talking about the beans and let her go, and then you can just grab
01:04:11 her. Okay, where did you first see her?
01:04:13 So to translate, they saw this white lady jogging, and they, they decided to just go grab her.
01:04:20 She's like
01:04:20 she's driving her own thing around the reservoir,
01:04:24 just right, driving on the path around the reservoir. Who was the first person who saw
01:04:35 kidnors name? It's okay, exactly.
01:04:39 And did he.. what did you do when he saw her? Did he say
01:04:42 again? Yeah,
01:04:46 Monty has a lady at first. Can
01:04:54 you speak
01:04:54 up a
01:04:55 little bit louder?
01:04:55 He told me he told everybody, so everybody just greeted because she came back.
01:04:59 When you say you waited, where did you wait?
01:05:02 Thank God, she's like going to class,
01:05:03 right next to their path around the reservoir.
01:05:06 Yes,
01:05:07 so to translate. Sorry, guys, this one's.. they get better. I promise
01:05:14 it's not your fault.
01:05:15 He says that when the kid in the black hoodie saw her, he said, "Let's hide, and they, they hid and laid and wait for her to get to where they were, so they could, they could attack her,
01:05:27 and everybody sort of hid. Yeah,
01:05:29 and what happened as she, as she came closer,
01:05:34 and that's when you actually
01:05:36 did you charge
01:05:37 her?
01:05:38 That's when we charged her. Did you charge her again? His parents sitting right next to him.
01:05:48 What happened when you charge her?
01:05:53 He sees on the ground if I stop at everything. Easy, like I ran one on the black, her legs and stuff.
01:06:06 So just translate, we saw her, we ran it, we charged her, we started hitting her, she fell on the ground, we started kicking and stomping her. I grabbed one of her legs, another kid grabbed another one of her legs,
01:06:22 okay? Who got.. well, let me back up a second. You charged her. Who's the first person to get back to her? Who knocked her down?
01:06:37 The kid, the camera.. um, you couldn't have offered smooth, and he's like, he's like, beyond that, he was just tossed.
01:06:43 And did you hit her?
01:06:45 Yes.
01:06:47 Where did you get that?
01:06:48 I'm not his teeth, though. I just.. there's like old butches,
01:06:52 and
01:06:55 so translate. Just look at Rebecca's face, knowing that the translate
01:07:01 language is this.
01:07:03 I'm fluent in nig speak.
01:07:06 Oh, okay. Like teeth and the collar of his shirt, I can't read his lips. I don't know what the hell.
01:07:11 Yeah, well, the video on his is really.. he had the worst quality one out of all, like in terms of the video quality, and.. and he just sounds.. he just mumbles the entire time. I think, partially because, again, he's in trouble, and his parents are sitting right next to him.
01:07:24 Yeah,
01:07:25 and he said that basically he did, he did hit her, and he did kick her, and that the kid with the hoodie, the initial guy who seems like he's trying to put a lot of blame on this mystery kid with a hoodie, you know, is like the instigator,
01:07:39 oh Evan B Ore
01:07:45 and that Toff and black guy was asking that did you see him hit her in the ribs? Did you see somebody hit her in the ribs? I heard it. I asked you, I heard it. You heard it.
01:07:57 What did you hear?
01:07:58 It sounded like it sounded like good news. Sounded like that. Okay,
01:08:03 so that's a weird detail, too. To translate, she said, "Did you see anyone hit him, hit her in the ribs? And he's like, "Oh, I heard it, I heard
01:08:11 it right.
01:08:12 She's like, "Well, I mean, you heard it sounded like someone like, like, like someone hit me in the chest.
01:08:17 Oh, okay.
01:08:18 So, like, that's that's a weird. if you're just being directed to make something up, his, his excited response. Oh, I heard it, like he's remembering that sound of them hitting her in the ribs.
01:08:32 Was she screaming? Is that how you could tell that she had been hit?
01:08:35 She is hurt, though.
01:08:39 Alright, she wasn't screaming, she was just hurt, though. She wasn't screaming,
01:08:44 she was
01:08:45 the first guy, and
01:08:49 he's talking about she was already knocked out, is what he's talking about by the time she's hitting the ribs. So she gets, she gets laid out pretty quick.
01:08:58 Okay. Who took her clothes on one
01:09:01 of us right now, not all of us grab their arms and stuff.
01:09:04 Okay? Were you ratting your arms?
01:09:05 We never had her left home.
01:09:07 And where were you holding that over her head, or to the side, or 100 Okay. And you were holding it, was she trying to pull her hand away? And was somebody holding her other hand?
01:09:18 Who was
01:09:18 that secured for everyone?
01:09:19 Came out of that three was somebody holding her feet.
01:09:21 Who was holding her to Lonnie was holding she did? Somebody take her clothes off of her?
01:09:26 Yes.
01:09:29 What was she wearing?
01:09:31 I think who took
01:09:33 off
01:09:36 her shirt?
01:09:38 She tore black hair.
01:09:39 Who took off his hands,
01:09:42 I can get him.
01:09:44 He's trying to blame this mystery tall black kid and the kid in the hoodie as the ring leaders, and he's saying that they all took off her clothes, trying to minimize any kind of direct action that he's doing, and you know, but again. He's, he's not, he's not denying being there. He, the basic description of what went down is matching the other descriptions, even though he's trying to insert this mystery, because remember, these kids are friends. They try to make it sound like they're not friends, like they don't know each other.
01:10:15 They were just like all caught up in something that they weren't, you know, they were just all innocent bystanders, but they all knew each other. They all live in the same neighborhood, and so, like, he's trying to minimize the fallout.
01:10:31 Did
01:10:31 somebody have sex with her?
01:10:34 Yeah,
01:10:35 did a lot of people have sex with him?
01:10:38 Yeah.
01:10:38 Okay. Who was the first person who got on top of her tall black hair,
01:10:43 tall blackhead, mystery tall black kid. And
01:10:45 did he take his pants off when he did that, or did he just open his fly? Or what did
01:10:50 he do? I usually got pants. He didn't
01:10:54 take care of pants by this point, though. She wasn't dressed anymore, right? Her pants were off.
01:10:58 Who's in
01:10:58 cross?
01:10:59 Did she ever choose someone? I'm a mama. I wasn't like it. she still had her shirt off.
01:11:04 No, like, nah.
01:11:06 Did she have a bra on?
01:11:10 Come on, Nick Brain,
01:11:13 you remember? Did you touch her breasts? You were holding down her arm, and you said the first person who got on top of her was this in black eye, did somebody else get on top of her? Then
01:11:24 who was that?
01:11:26 He grabbed one of the arms,
01:11:30 and who was that
01:11:33 now? Then the hoodie, yeah, the first is the mystery tall black guy, then the hoodie black guy does
01:11:40 Clarence Thomas get on topic?
01:11:43 Yeah, had that
01:11:46 after you did. Okay, so first it was the black guy, that it was the Puerto Rican guy with the black hood. Then you got on top of her. Did you have your pants down when you did that?
01:11:53 No,
01:11:54 did you have your fly uncle?
01:11:55 Yeah, but my penis wasn't in her.
01:11:58 So he's saying his penis was not in her. He got on her after the mystery black guy and the mystery hoodie guy, he gets on her, but doesn't actually insert his penis.
01:12:08 Oh my god, this is a hard watch.
01:12:10 I know it's, it's a weird, it's, it's a weird detail again. Like, why are you, why would you admit to doing that? Obviously, you could just say you were there or something like that, but he's saying no, and he's not the only one to say this, by the way.
01:12:23 What happened?
01:12:25 Just like,
01:12:26 so he's saying I didn't actually put it in her. I didn't, you know, I'm not.. I didn't actually rape her. I was just, you know, simulating sex, basically.
01:12:37 Well, when you got on top of her, you got on top of her, so that you could have sex with her, right?
01:12:44 Not really. I just like, just doing this, so everybody know,
01:12:49 so everybody
01:12:50 knows what.
01:12:50 So basically, he knows that he's part of the crew, that he's, you know, one of them. In fact, that's
01:12:55 another one of them,
01:12:55 right? And they all say that. They all say, well, I didn't really want to rape her, I just did it so that I would look, you know, like I was part of the group.
01:13:05 You said you were just doing it so that everybody was, everybody just like, just know I did
01:13:09 it, so everyone would know I did it. So that's his excuse for, for raping her, and he didn't really rape her, he just pretended to rape her, so that everyone would think that he raped her.
01:13:22 Well, how long did you, when you got on top of her, you had your penis out of your pants?
01:13:27 Yeah,
01:13:28 and it was between her legs.
01:13:30 No,
01:13:30 it was against her.
01:13:32 Yeah,
01:13:33 and did you rub against her?
01:13:34 Yeah,
01:13:35 did you have an erection?
01:13:36 No.
01:13:37 How long did you do that for minutes? What would the other people saying while you did that while the other people were doing it, nobody said anything,
01:13:56 so he's obviously, you know, again he's teased, he's saying that he, again, this explains why there's no semen evidence from just like the other ones, he's saying he didn't even have an erection, he was just simulating the sex to be part of the rape, I guess, to you know, get partition participation points in the rape. Now we get to Corey Weiss, this is the one that was featured in the movie, and they make him seem like he's like this innocent little kid that's easily manipulated by these threatening cops in a dark, smoky room. When really it's this brightly lit classroom environment where they give him a soda, and again, this is the only instance. Actually, as far as I know, the parents are not in the room. I'm not sure exactly the circumstances why the parents aren't in the room for this guy, but he's read his rights.
01:14:49 He's 17, so who cares?
01:14:51 Yeah,
01:14:52 you have the right to remain silent and to refuse to answer any questions. Do you understand? Anything that you say can be used against. You important to understand you have the right to consult a lawyer now before any questioning, and have a lawyer present during any questioning. Do you understand? Could you please answer it, Lev?
01:15:11 So, he, I mean, he's read his rights, they go through the whole thing. He at first gives a, an account that we're not going to listen to, but he gives an account that is minimizing his involvement to the point where he's literally saying he's not even really there, he's hiding behind a tree, scared, watching the other boys rape her, and they, they, they haven't, they finished, they conclude the, the interrogation, he leaves, and then he asked to talk back to the investigators. The cops haul him in again, and he gives a completely different story when he's brought back in.
01:15:52 He came down from the park, from the field, from the reservoir to the
01:15:58 field.
01:15:59 That's when we came towards the
01:16:02 rape.
01:16:02 Who was waiting? Who was
01:16:05 me, Steve, and Kevin, all the rest of others? And Raven
01:16:12 was Yusef there,
01:16:13 Yusuf. Yes, we all, Raymond, Raymond, Raven ran back of her, and she looked back at Raven, and she started running a little fast. Steve came out towards the front and grabbed it from the front, from the front beginning right there. That's where it started, little rape,
01:16:41 just a little rape,
01:16:43 that's our
01:16:43 little rape, is what he said. Yeah,
01:16:45 yeah. So this, this guy's obviously IQ 60, or if that, maybe IQ 50, and he's got a lot of details. They're not feeding him any details. He seems to have a lot of, you know, specifics now this time around,
01:17:00 even if they had fed him details previously, do you think that he would be able to retain them to such a level that he'd be able to repeat them? Like, I'm just not convinced. He seems too dumb. This guy's like non-functioning IQ.
01:17:11 Yeah, this guy's barely alive.
01:17:13 Did they blow it all the way down?
01:17:15 And when you say Steve grabbed it from the front and Raymond grabbed it from the back, where were you? Where were you?
01:17:22 Me and Kevin used to was right there, looking at them, said it'll look at them start everything by themselves. You just said something about there was a little rape there. Yeah, tell me what you mean. Little rape was saying sting attacked her first with the rain right there,
01:17:39 right there.
01:17:40 The first picture you showed
01:17:42 me, the
01:17:44 first picture you showed me, where the white, the white part was at, that's where it started from.
01:17:50 Now that's a picture they showed him, like, do you recognize this area? It was the area where she was raped,
01:17:57 and it started all the way down.
01:17:59 Okay, when you say a little rape happened there. What exactly do you mean? Tell me what each of the people did.
01:18:08 Stephen, he just felt the up. She could have taken to time and scream. She, she slapped,
01:18:17 she slapped,
01:18:18 she slapped. Steve,
01:18:20 three witness accounts now, right?
01:18:22 Was she dressed?
01:18:23 Yes.
01:18:24 And when you say he felt her up, what exactly did you see him do?
01:18:28 She couldn't take him by himself, and he could take her by us. Raymond grabbed her to make it hard on her two against one, it brought too much weight on her, and she had no choice but to let loose. She had no choice but to give, give up with what they wanted. So, from there, if they brought her body way down there, that's where the blood was at.
01:18:59 How did they get her down to where you found the blood,
01:19:01 they grabbed a Joe dragged it.
01:19:04 How did they drag
01:19:05 her? They grabbed her from her feet and dragged him down to rest. Her back was on her back was on the grass. They just dragged him down to rest. They dragged it down. That's when that's when Steve stripped her clothes with the knife and everything, slapped her puss in her face and everything. When he did all that, I didn't want to sit right there, look at what's going on. It's, I didn't want to look like no, when you with you with them, you got to show a little effort around them too. So I had, I had to get into it too.
01:19:43 So he says the same thing. I didn't want to get involved, but you know, when you're with these guys, you have to show that you're into it too. So I had to show that I was into it too. So this is again, these aren't details that that the cops would have would have fed them. This is like. Nigger psychology, basically.
01:20:02 Yeah,
01:20:02 so this is this is the most honest explanation in terms of like the like what would have been in their heads when they participated if there was some little semblance of a still small voice telling them no, no, don't do it, this is rape is bad, actually. And he's just like, but my friends, I have to look tough.
01:20:21 Yep,
01:20:23 I wasn't doing what they was doing. They was on top of raping her completely. I was playing when
01:20:28 you say they were raping,
01:20:29 seeing that again, minimizing. Yeah, I wasn't raping her completely, I was just a
01:20:36 little raped.
01:20:37 Yeah, I was just playing around with her a little bit.
01:20:41 Huh? When
01:20:41 you say they were raping her, what exactly were they doing?
01:20:44 This child knew it was fucking this was fucking hell, but Steve and Raymond and me and Kev and Yusuf was playing with them like Yusuf had her arms, and me and Kevin was playing with
01:21:04 her. What were you doing when you were playing with
01:21:06 her?
01:21:06 Huh,
01:21:07 what were you doing?
01:21:08 I was playing with her legs.
01:21:10 What were you doing to the legs?
01:21:11 Huh, I was going up and down the leg. I wasn't doing as much as they was doing.
01:21:17 Stay again, trying to minimize Sandy was just feeling her legs,
01:21:21 yeah,
01:21:21 right, holding, as you know, as he's as while she's getting raped, yeah, and being held down by by four other guys, he's just touched her legs, that's all, not a big deal, right, not a big deal,
01:21:36 we going to touch her crotch,
01:21:38 no, I was about to,
01:21:40 I said,
01:21:41 no, I was, I was gonna, I was gonna touch a crush, but then I was like, no, no, that's not good, I have, I have a conscience, I didn't touch a crush, I was about to, but then I was like, that's where I draw the line, this whole, that's all beating, beating her almost to death, and while my friend's raping her, feeling her legs, that's fine, that's within the realm of acceptability, but I wasn't going to touch her crutch,
01:22:09 I couldn't exactly see myself doing
01:22:13 it's unironically, that's what it is like, that's the, that's the code of conduct for this guy is like everything up to touching her crotch is fine,
01:22:25 even though I was up to it, but I was gonna do
01:22:28 it, even though he was up to it. So he's trying to explain, it's not because I'm a pussy, I was up to it, I could have done it if I wanted to.
01:22:39 No, I think he was saying like I was almost up to her crotch.
01:22:42 Okay, burn them all, burn them all.
01:22:49 I can see the espresion on his Face that when we do this and get caught by the cops, and we threw,
01:22:58 see, and that's getting caught. Yeah,
01:23:01 see, and that's the real reason why he was thinking about severity of the punishment at this point. He's already worried about getting caught by the cops.
01:23:09 Yeah,
01:23:10 so what they did, what I did was different from them. The only people that did it different was me and Yosef and Kevin did what they were doing, man. You see, was just playing with her,
01:23:28 So you were playing with her...?
01:23:30 So, Yusef is his friend, that he like his
01:23:34 neighborhood friend
01:23:34 together. Yeah,
01:23:35 right. And so that's why he's also trying to minimize what Yousef's involvement was, saying that, oh yeah, they were doing it, but you know, me and you, Chef, we were the only ones doing it different.
01:23:45 Huh? Used to play with her brest.
01:23:46 Did you
01:23:47 no I didn't go? I go up to the breast, nothing. I stayed on her leg. They told me, pull out a pants and pull down her pants, so Steve got off of her since Steve called me a punk, cause I didn't do it, they hold it down,
01:24:11 that's another detail, right? Steve called me a punk for not, you know, not pulling down her pants. It's like I don't know if that really happened, but it's a weird.. it's not a detail you were fed, you know,
01:24:20 yeah,
01:24:22 Steve ripped up pants with his knife, that's what made her mad, and that's when she started scratching Kevin, she was yelling pretty loud, used to close the mouth, he had bigger heads of us, close them out, so he was looking at her, and I felt kind of bad. This my first extreme edit to any type of female industry. This, my first rape,
01:24:56 oh, it's his first rape.
01:24:58 Look at that, I. Good man, my first rate. Yeah,
01:25:03 don't yell like a gimme on this one. You know, it's my first rate, right? I've never done anything like this to a woman on the streets,
01:25:13 because I never did this before this was the last time doing. It's my first experience. This will be my last. So, when they did that. They just went on what they was doing after which Kevin and Raymond picked up a rock, I think Nilo said they Kevin hit her in the face with the rock, that's what knocked her out. Definitely knocked out. She thought was a punt, but it was a rock that hit her. Steve was using the knife to cut up, cut her legs. I don't know how he was doing, half of them usually nails the kind of legs, man. Used to, they were kept since Kev and Steve and Raymond acting wild. Me and Josef to stand to the side, playing with her. We stand to the side, they were acting too wild. They were swinging on her, and everything.
01:26:24 What does that mean?
01:26:25 What
01:26:26 they were swinging,
01:26:30 punching her face, punching her face. I touched that look, like no punching her face.
01:26:37 They were doing it with both hands.
01:26:40 Yeah, there's like more than two heads punching
01:26:42 Who was punching?
01:26:46 face, I'm still not saying that means even though we were playing with her, but man, Josef wasn't going that far, but doing that going that far. This his guys, this his man that will try to defeat all of us.
01:27:08 I didn't understand what you just said.
01:27:09 What the fuck are you talking about, dude?
01:27:15 Come on,
01:27:16 I said, man, Josef didn't go as well as dem three did,
01:27:22 Yusuf and I didn't go as wild as those three did.
01:27:26 Seven wrestlers, if we were robbed, we would grab the grab the running man, being that he was a man. We knew he was there for us to fight back.
01:27:36 So he's trying to justify, he's trying to say they're not the ones that instigate him, and Yusef weren't the ones that instigated the rape, because they didn't see it as sporting, and that when they attacked men, that it was more sporting, and that the woman had no way of fighting back, and then he got caught up, basically, and raping her.
01:27:56 That's when we knew we had to fight, but since this was a female, she, she couldn't, she came and take one of us, she couldn't take a hit. Steve hit her one top, boom, he's closed her eyes for quite a while. That's where he ripped her pants, she and she just opened her eyes, she's got just got into it, her ego, her bite took over, started going
01:28:26 wild.
01:28:26 What did she do?
01:28:28 Huh,
01:28:28 what did she do?
01:28:29 She was kicking, and she, she, she barely.. she almost kicked me. That's why I moved. I moved out her leg. I let her let her leg go. I was hoping to let her let it go.
01:28:42 see
01:28:43 a lot of more, a lot more details too, you know.
01:28:46 She lets him go for a lot longer in this interview. She's not asking a lot of follow-up questions. I think this is the one that is the most obviously not a false confession,
01:28:54 right? And
01:28:55 I don't know why they highlighted it the most. I mean, this one is
01:28:58 because they, they have the recording of the first one, which is different, where he, it's not different in that he still says that the same people were raping her and stuff, and he just makes it sound like he was hiding behind a tree and not participating at all, and he couldn't really see all the people involved, and he's really wishy-washy about it, and this time he's in earnest, like, like going at it now, I think part of this is, I mean, I don't want to say to his credit, but part of it was in the first interview they showed him a picture of what she looked like at the hospital, and he looked genuinely shocked, and he was just like, "Oh, I didn't know she was bleeding that bad, I know she was that fucked up, and I think that that that image might have sat with him while he was in the waiting room, and that's why he decided to go back in and tell him what happened, but I don't know, that's that's just me trying to give him a little bit of the benefit of the doubt.
01:29:52 Okay, see, kicked Kevin in his chest, Kevin loud and punching her face, half of them. Touching the stomach, having punched in the leg, made you sort of telling Steve, let her go, man, because you might want a dead body with our hands or
01:30:14 strap.
01:30:16 See, he's telling her him to stop, not because it's a cruel thing to do, but they don't want a dead body on their hands.
01:30:25 Leave her alone, and now, man, she wants guys kept me. So, what, man? See, see, I won't do something simple. Come on, man, we got cops out here looking for us. Come on, they've got half our people.
01:30:46 So he's worried about getting caught at this point. That's why that they decide to stop raping her, not because of anything else.
01:30:54 When they got off of her, so this is like when they started, we start cutting, when they start hitting with the bricks. I see blood scanning. I moved out to.. I moved out the way. We used to laugh. We didn't leave. We was
01:31:08 like, we left. Well, we didn't really leave. See, that's thing. If you're lying, he could have just said we left. Then you know, like, it started. They were hitting her with bricks. It was getting bloody, and so we left, and he's like, "Oh, we left. Well, we didn't leave. We just, we just took a few steps back,
01:31:26 three steps away from them, three steps away from them. Dude, beaten up. He's like, "Oh man, this was laughing,
01:31:38 and Youssef was laughing, his friend, like he's shocked by the brutality of it, and his friend is laughing.
01:31:44 He got away, laughter, my expression towards that. I felt kind of bad. The reason why I did that, not just to prove myself, just the reason why I was with them, that was like they wouldn't call me a name, name your ball, just the reason why, reason why I did it, because we was all together,
01:32:08 so again the same justification, they're all using, I only did it because I wanted to be part of the the friend group, the Wolf Pack,
01:32:17 like I said, the reason why I did it, just to prove myself. I don't prove myself for nobody. I just did, because we went to, went to the park
01:32:33 to what,
01:32:33 for trouble. Once this part of trouble, we got trouble, a lot of trouble. That's what they wanted, and I guess that's what I wanted. If I was doing it, that's what I wanted too.
01:32:49 So he's admitting the tent, that's what he went to the park for.
01:32:52 Yeah,
01:32:54 he went to the park for trouble, and he got trouble, and if that they were doing it, he wanted to do it too.
01:33:00 But when they did all this, man, Josef was away from that, he was away from me. We looked at him, I felt bad. He started laughing. He said, "But it ain't funny, though. It's not funny what's going on. But he was laughing, but I thought the best is looking at it happening. I can imagine raping a woman, but not beating up just like that.
01:33:29 What? Yeah,
01:33:31 I
01:33:32 can imagine raping a woman, but not beating her up like that. So, like, again, this gives you a little window into the minds, if you can call them that, of these fucking nigs.
01:33:45 How come that anybody went raping a woman? If I have to rape a woman or rape, I can't beat
01:33:52 fighting to rape a woman, I'll rape her, but not gonna beat her up.
01:33:59 Can't look at it that way, think all that blood squirt, and all this,
01:34:04 all this blood is just that
01:34:06 grosses me out, not immoral. Yeah,
01:34:10 when we took a statement from you before, what you're telling us now is not the same thing as you told
01:34:17 us then.
01:34:17 Why didn't you tell us the truth before?
01:34:19 How can we face telling the truth, couldn't face it. I could not face it at all.
01:34:25 What made you change your mind?
01:34:27 I thought about it, I thought about, I thought about a good straw, because it told me you can get them with my line.
01:34:37 See, he's admitting that he thought about it. He sounds genuine.
01:34:45 We are about to finish this interview. I want you to know we will not have another interview, even if you send the detective and ask for a third chance to say something. So I'm asking you now the way I did at the end of the last interview. Is there anything at
01:35:03 all
01:35:04 that you have told us in the last half hour that you've spoken that is not
01:35:10 true? All I said, that's what I had to say. I could have played myself innocent to the whole game, something didn't sound right. It didn't sound right to me. I'm playing edition to the whole thing.
01:35:27 Did anyone make you change your story?
01:35:28 No, I thought about it. I thought about all the lies I said, all the detective carry my face and never hit it. On authority said to myself, you know, you said a lot. You said at least 10-20 lies. I said, like, the first minute I stepped in, stepped inside. All I had to do is tell the truth out, I probably been home, but no. Then I told a lie. I gotta face up to where I live up to now.
01:36:05 Have you told us the truth now?
01:36:07 Yes, ma'am.
01:36:08 Did you tell us the truth voluntarily?
01:36:10 Yes, ma'am.
01:36:11 Because you wanted to.
01:36:12 Yes, ma'am.
01:36:12 Did anyone force you?
01:36:13 No, ma'am.
01:36:14 Did anyone threaten you?
01:36:15 No.
01:36:17 Thank you very much. It is now 20 minutes,
01:36:20 so pretty, cut and dry there.
01:36:22 That was painful, painful series. Devon, good Lord.
01:36:27 Oh, there's.. there's one more. Oh, that's right. There's this genius right here, Kevin Richardson. We won't.. we won't.. you know, his is really long, and so we'll. we'll try to, we'll just cut to the chase. Obviously, his parents are there too, so I'm not going to play it. I'll just show you, like the camera pans over and show there's, there's his dad. So his dad's there, they read him the rights, just like they did with the other ones. He admits to the rape, too. He to participate in the rape, too.
01:37:02 Was she running on the road, or was she running on the same path that man jogger had been running on?
01:37:07 She's on
01:37:08 the
01:37:08 road.
01:37:12 What did the lady jogger look like?
01:37:14 She was short, she had short hair, very short.
01:37:21 So here's another thing. She was short and had short hair. That's an important detail, because she did have short hair, and there was no news reports. There would, there would be no way he would know that she had short hair.
01:37:33 Black on bacon bacon pants. Did
01:37:39 she have a shirt?
01:37:40 Oh. they started chasing them. Everybody's running, nobody was around,
01:37:50 nobody was around, no other people besides the lady jogger.
01:37:52 Yes,
01:37:54 so who started running
01:37:56 was Antron and Raymond and Steve in front,
01:37:58 and you read
01:38:01 everybody was running, and then, like, they caught her, like, pulled a shirt off
01:38:14 Who caught up first?
01:38:14 Antron, they beside me.
01:38:16 When they caught her, did they.. what did they do to her? Did they grab her? What they do..
01:38:19 like, they push it down by pushing them down. They grabbed her shirt. She fell.
01:38:25 She fell, and was grabbing her shirt.
01:38:29 Antron,
01:38:31 everybody was around her, so they thought, like, taking a bra or
01:38:36 okay? Did somebody take her shirt off first?
01:38:39 Yes.
01:38:39 Who took her shirt off,
01:38:41 Raymond took her shirt off.
01:38:44 Was she wearing a bra?
01:38:45 Yes.
01:38:46 And did somebody take her bra?
01:38:47 Yes.
01:38:48 Did they take it off or did they pull it up, or what did they
01:38:50 do?
01:38:53 Was was she screaming? What was she saying?
01:38:58 Like saying, stop me on the help, don't do that to it, don't do it,
01:39:13 don't
01:39:13 do it, don't do it, but then he ends up saying he raped her too.
01:39:17 I came, I came over there, I was like trying to say
01:39:24 It's trying to stop
01:39:25 it. I got in a way,
01:39:28 and then he scratched her in the face. Blow, surprise, surprise. While he was trying to stop it, he got scratched, so he's so close to her that this little short woman with a, you know, very small arm reach. The only way he's getting scratched in the face is if he's the one on top of her.
01:39:50 Yeah,
01:39:51 I mean, I can't move. She's got some death from death when Mike hit her.
01:40:00 Yeah,
01:40:00 did you try to grab her?
01:40:02 Not like you know, not like that
01:40:06 trying to feel her breasts.
01:40:08 No,
01:40:09 were you trying to touch her?
01:40:11 Not really.
01:40:12 Didn't you tell the police earlier today that you had tried to grab her, and that's when you got scratched?
01:40:16 No, not like, like filling her, filling her up.
01:40:19 Okay, not my coffee, but you tried. You,
01:40:22 he's trying to stop. Okay, I forgot. This guy's the one that was like, I was just trying to stop it. And then he talks about other, right? But anyway, so that's.. we won't watch this one. You can watch them on YouTube in their entirety, but they're.. I mean, they're all obviously they're not feeding them details, they're not leading them along.
01:40:39 This is. it's. it's obviously even though the stories don't match all the details entirely, it's because they're trying to minimize their participation in it, they're trying to blame, you know, mystery black guys in hoodies, or tall black guys they don't know, or their friend and them, or standing a couple feet away, or, you know, I was trying to stop it, and that's why she scratched me in the face, you know, this kind of shit. And so it's obvious that they were involved, of
01:41:09 course. This is such an outrageous miscarriage of justice. I think there would be more justice if there were just lynchings without due process immediately following this,
01:41:20 right? No, and that's the thing, and New York would be $41 million richer, yeah, than that, just the economic impact alone, but yeah, there should, there should have been, there should have been lynchings, this, if there were lynchings, actually these guys probably would have thought twice about doing something like this, but instead it's open season on white people, so yeah, no problem at all.
01:41:43 Anyway, so there's more than just the confessions, and the thing that people like to hang on to with that, when they say, "Oh, that's the exonerated five, they like to hang on to the DNA evidence, as if, like, that's like somehow disproves the case when they knew in the beginning of the trial the DNA did not match any of the five attackers,
01:42:08 right,
01:42:08 and they, the prosecutors, told the jury that, that we don't, we don't know who this other guy is. There's obviously more people that were involved in this, we don't know who this is, that, and so that doesn't mean that these five weren't involved in the rape. It was a gang rape, and so it just means we don't have all the perpetrators. So when
01:42:31 they always knew that,
01:42:32 yeah, they always knew that the DNA didn't match. They also always knew that, at least according to the attackers, that they, some of them, at least, didn't even have an erection, and didn't, didn't penetrate, and just simulated the sex, and they were all trying to just get in on it to impress their friends, and so that the, the idea that they would have had left DNA in the first place, I mean, it just, it's kind of a non-issue, so you had that issue, but also, in addition, the first kid, this genius right here, Raymond Santana, who his big excuse was, I was just playing with a titties, I didn't do nothing, so they have the idea of how we know that he's involved.
01:43:26 Well, in addition to his on camera next to his father's confession, is after he was one of the initial people arrested, so he was rounded up before they even knew that there was a woman who had been raped who was bleeding out in the forest, the haunted Nigg forest, and so they were hauling him in with some other boys, and while they were hauling him in, one of the people that were one of the.. they don't, they don't know, they don't note in the report who it was, but one of the kids says, I didn't do the murder,
01:44:00 and this was before Trisha had even been found, like they know that. And then I think Santana said I had nothing to do with the rape, all I did was feel her tits. Yeah, so this is like all in the car,
01:44:14 yeah,
01:44:14 being
01:44:15 driven between precincts. And do you know why they were being driven between precincts?
01:44:20 Because it was too full, or what,
01:44:22 because they were adhering to juvenile protocols so stringently, and part of New York law dictates that you can only interview juveniles one at a time in a child-friendly room, of which each precinct only had one, so when they say, when people are saying that they were interrogated for 30 hours. No, they were being interrogated one by one, and they had to wait like nine hours to be interrogated. And during that time, they were eating, they were sleeping, they were drinking water, they were calling up their parents. Yeah, so all of that is false. None of them were interrogated for 30 hours, they were just. Is really trying to observe juvenile protocols, and so they had to actually go to another precinct, so that they could do like two lanes of interviewing the juveniles,
01:45:10 so while they were transporting Raymond Santana to this other precinct, so they could interview him with his dad in the child-friendly room, while in the car, he said I had quote I had nothing to do with the rape, all I did was feel her tits.
01:45:26 Yeah,
01:45:28 that's that's a that was in the police report, and they couldn't use it in court. He was still convicted, even though they couldn't use that in court because he had not been mirandized at that point.
01:45:38 Yes,
01:45:39 another issue was Melanie Jackson, who was the older sister of one of Corey Rice's or Weiss's friends, so the guy in the white and red shirt, this douche bag right here, when he caught, when he once he was in jail, he called up a friend from Rikers, and after the phone call, the friend, or the friend's sister, said, "You know, like, that's fucked up, he's a rapist, why are you talking to him?
01:46:12 And the friend said, "No, no, no, he didn't, he didn't rape her, he just held her down. So even the friend's understanding of events, this friend that he's calling from Rikers, that he's, you know, he's good buddies with, was that he wasn't directly, he was just holding her legs, kind of like he says in the interview, and the sister, thinking it would actually help him for some reason, went to the cops and told told the cops that that that's that had what that's what had transpired, so the cops had a police report, and then when they re-interviewed her, because they did it after Reyes came out and said that he was the lone rapist, they did this evaluation of the case, they went and re-interviewed a bunch of people, they wanted to see, well, you know,
01:47:00 if there was any validity to this, they re-interviewed her in 2002 and she said the same thing, that, oh yeah, he told my brother that he just, he didn't rape her, he just held her down while she was being raped, and there was also another friend of his that said he had bragged about being involved in the rape prior to being arrested, because he was arrested later. He wasn't in the initial group of people that were picked up when they picked up people like Santana, so that there's, there's a, there's a lot more evidence than just that. Also, I understand there's some, some myths that you wanted to bust.
01:47:43 Yeah, I mean, I mentioned all of these myths about that they, that they weren't eating, that was a later thing that emerged with the lawsuit. There was no evidence of that, and if that had actually happened, it, it would have come up in pretrial hearings, like there's no way that would have come out that wouldn't have come out before the lawsuit, so we know that's bullshit. The interrogation time, as I mentioned, another myth is that they didn't know each other.
01:48:11 I see this a lot, like these kids didn't know who, but even at the beginning of the Ken Burns documentary, they're saying, like, well, I recognized him from the hood, like I knew his face, I didn't know his name. None of these people were complete strangers, they just were acquaintances. To say that they didn't know each other is not true,
01:48:31 right? They knew each other from school and stuff like that,
01:48:34 right? Right. And the greatest myth of all, of course, is that these are false confessions. So you directed me to this Armstrong report, this comprehensive, exhaustive report about the quality of the juvenile interrogations, and they found no evidence of police misconduct, coercion, or constitutional violations.
01:48:54 They followed rules for questioning minors. The DA office and trial judge saw no improper tactics, and I think some of these people were black too. Inconsistencies in the defendant's statements were expected. They minimized their roles, but showed general consistency on key facts.
01:49:11 The jogger was knocked down on a road, dragged into woods, beaten, sexually assaulted by some, while held by others, and left semi-conscious. And that they also found there was no feeding of details by the police, only Weis claimed that later it was rejected, and some informal inculpatory statements outside formal interrogations and other witnesses corroborated involvement. So it's obvious that this was some kind of post-hoc racial money grab,
01:49:42 right?
01:49:43 Did you mention that Ken Burns' daughter actually got a cut of this 41 million?
01:49:48 Yes, yeah, no, she, she worked for the lawyers that were trying to get the $41 million
01:49:55 right? So she definitely, like, she find it directly financially benefited, right? On this, and then I want to talk a little bit about this myth that there's no evidence. We talked about the face scratch. It's a damn shame they couldn't get DNA out of that. I bet they would be able to do that today. Yeah, and something that the, in the Ken Burns documentary that was not mentioned was the enormous number of witnesses.
01:50:20 So, in the original case there are sworn depositions of 95 witnesses. This was a 117 page decision by New York State Supreme Court Justice Thomas Galligan in sworn testimony given in two trials and affirmed by two appellate courts. So this idea that this is like a, like a racially motivated thing, when really this was a cross section of the of the diverse demographics of that area of New York is preposterous. I mean, 95 witnesses, this is a good one. Um, oh no, this is the one we just talked about. Yeah, I put this in twice. That the brother, the sister's friend, I don't know why she thought that that was going to be exonerating for him.
01:51:09 Yeah,
01:51:12 yeah, it's fine. Oh, and then the most important thing is that Santana and Richardson, they separately pointed out the location of the rape when they were brought to Central Park, so I don't know how people are squaring that circle, I that right there before we get to the DNA evidence, a thing or two about about DNA, because this pisses me off in cases before 19 eight, when was the advent of really serious DNA technology, like early 90s,
01:51:39 maybe early 90s, yeah, early 90s.
01:51:41 Before that, every single murder, rape, robbery that there was a conviction on, or that was prosecuted, did so effectively in the absence of DNA technology, like the idea that you need DNA, or really, in certain cases, that it's exonerating, it can absolutely cloud your judgment if you're ever on a jury, and now I think in true crime podcasts they call this like the law and order effect, where people think that there always needs to be substantial forensic evidence to support the guilt or innocence of any given perp, but that's just not true.
01:52:16 I mean, people, people always downplay the importance of circumstantial evidence, circumstantial evidence is, you know, the crux of many a strong case, and there is a lot more than circum.. there's forensic evidence on this one.
01:52:29 Trisha, when she came out of her coma and thought it was 1953 for a month or whatever, she actually did. She was really fucked up. The doctors who were interviewed by Ken Burns' daughter, and he did an entire day interview. The main doctor entered his case, and she just decided not to use any of it. It's fine, but the doctors, the team of doctors working on her, they noted in her chart that she had bruises and red hand markings all over her body that were all different shapes and sizes, they were all different shapes inside.
01:53:03 If that is not evidence, and so when I was talking to Grok about this case, I'm like, well, how do you explain this? And Grok was like, well, the general public says that these might have been hand grabs and things from before this incident. Oh, that's insane.
01:53:19 What are the chain man
01:53:20 handled by someone else, and that
01:53:22 right,
01:53:23 right, it's just incredible that in and of itself, irrespective of DNA evidence, is evidence that there were multiple perpetrators, and she today has said that she believes that, that even though she doesn't remember, she believes that there were multiple perpetrators.
01:53:37 Yeah, so this is this that article you sent me, it says, so I wish the case hadn't been settled. 1989 Central Park jogger believes more than one person attacked, and the bottom line is this is a quote from her. I always knew that there was at least one more person involved, because there was unidentified DNA. So she's talking about how they knew that the DNA was not those other people, and the assumption was never like, oh, it's just mystery, and they knew there had to be other people, and they just didn't catch everyone, and that this other guy that's copying to it now was was likely either there at the scene initially, he was part of the mob, or he came in and scooped it up, you know, attacked her after they had run off, but so that was always that was never a question, that was, they always thought something like that had happened. Quote, so when I heard the news that there was an additional person found whose DNA matched, that wasn't a tremendous surprise,
01:54:30 right?
01:54:31 But when he said that he had alone had done it, that is when some turmoil started. Wondering, well, how can that be? Millie and her doctors said that there was medical evidence to support the charge that more than one person was responsible for her attack. Her injuries were different from what Reyes claimed as the sole attacker. Quote, there were hand prints pressed into her skin that looked like a red outline. Kurt said. The hand prints were of different sizes as well, so she had different sized hand prints all over her body, and friend, and the injuries that Reyes describes, by the way, his account changes every time he's interviewed about it. He has a totally different telling of the story, his, but his description, none of his descriptions match her injuries for what he simply did.
01:55:26 Right, right. Oh, before we move to that, really quick. Also, there were blood stains and dirt on on the clothing of several of the five, and they weren't able to match. Okay, they matched the blood to Trisha through blood typing, which is kind of a primitive analysis, and fits a lot of people. They weren't able to do it, or the hair that they found with mitochondrial DNA. So, I don't know, that's unusable, but not - you can't dismiss it, right? I mean, it's still like, why, why you are you covered in blood and dirt lies? Like, what are you doing here? And then there were also statements from a bunch of the other people that were in the pack of 30 that that nobody talks about, all of this totally absent from the Ken Burns documentary, not addressed at all,
01:56:12 right, and in fact the lead investigator on that case, who is himself black, was interviewed by, well, he's, yeah, he's the same guy we showed earlier. He was probably about, it looks like to me, he's like a quadroon, and he's, he was interviewed by Larry Elder, who is black, about after watching the documentary, and this is what he had to say about it. Well, you were there that night, why don't you tell us what happened?
01:56:38 Well, to begin with, I'm listening to Ken Burns, and it's astounding to listen to him fabricate what went on that night. Ken Burns, I, you know, I could never watch anything that he's produced anymore with any amount of confidence that he's telling the truth, that this is an honest betrayal of what's happened
01:57:03 now. Detective, you were there that night. Did you and your partner arrest the people that became the Central Park Five? All five of them,
01:57:10 we had what happened was we were looking for the group of teenagers who were wilding, who were rioting. I mean, and that's the best way to describe
01:57:21 it, over that
01:57:21 they weren't running in the park. We came upon 20 to 30 of them after they had assaulted the teacher, John Lachlan, and beat him so badly that both of his eye sockets were shattered and his skull was was cracked. He wasn't even able to identify who it was that that beat him, because he couldn't see his head, looked like it was dunked in a bucket of blood. We captured five of the 30 that we observed, because the group, of course, started running when we went to apprehend them, and two of the five were Kevin Richardson and Raymond Santana, part of the Central Park Five, and just so that you understand, as we observed the group, we observed, we watched Raymond Santana with Stephen Lopez leading the group, they were, they were, I could see them turning around and addressing them almost as though they were leading the pack, and as they were walking uptown, up Central Park West. Once we arrested them, you have to understand something, we arrested them before the jogger was even found. The jogger was still in the ravine. She was, she was by herself in a ditch by a stream, basically dying.
01:58:55 So, you know, it's.. I don't know why you'd ever actually believe a Ken Burns documentary in the first place, but you know he is. He's a respected documentarian, but we got a little more of this here,
01:59:10 Detective. As you know, you are been accused of forcing the confessions. You're accused of not giving the boys the opportunity to be with their parents, not giving them food and water, not allowing them to use the restroom. Linda Fairstein has been characterized as a racist, and I want to give you an opportunity to address some of these distortions. Linda Fairstein was the lead prosecutor in the case, and she wrote an op-ed piece about this mini series called When They See Us, in which she said it was full of lies. She said the mini series portrays the suspects of being held without food, deprived of their parents' company and advice, not even allowed to use the bathroom. Nonsense. If that were true, that would have been brought up at the hearing where they determined the confessions were voluntary. It says that the film suggests the only evidence that they have against the suspect is their forced confession. Not true. One woman testified that one of them told her he held her down, probably thinking that holding her down meant that he was exonerated from crime. She was wrong. There were blood stains and dirt on some of the other five. Linda Fairstein said there were statements made by more than a dozen other kids who participated in the park rampage, fingering the five.
02:00:21 So, yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy, but yeah, I got, I got a little more, if you want me to, I don't know if I'm sure you want me to play this, let's see,
02:00:31 I mean, it's good,
02:00:34 I don't know how repetitive it is
02:00:35 when
02:00:35 you, when you, you watch the documentary that Ken Burns did, your, and your reaction to that documentary was what?
02:00:43 Oh, it's a complete farce. Ken Burns himself said that he made the documentary for one reason, and that was to force the city to pay the lawsuit to pay the Central Park Five money, and that's it. That's why he would not show the city the outtakes from the from the from the filming that he did because he didn't want to see, he didn't want people to see the contradictions, he didn't want people to see the lies, he didn't want people to see that they were clearly involved in the attack on Patricia Miley, aka the Central Park jogger. All you have to do is watch the videos, watch the videos in their entirety. There's a website called Central.
02:01:29 The site doesn't work anymore, but he's basically telling them to do exactly what we did, which was watch those,
02:01:35 watch them
02:01:35 all, watch the confessions. So
02:01:38 this is so outrageous.
02:01:40 Yeah,
02:01:40 before we close out, we should talk a little bit about the problems with Ray's confession and DNA, if you want to.
02:01:49 Yeah,
02:01:50 okay, okay. So, DNA did confirm that Ray's raped Tricia, but the report strongly questioned his claim that he acted alone, so there was no corroboration beyond what he said. And wasn't he at Rikers with why do I always forget his name
02:02:12 with Corey
02:02:14 Weissey?
02:02:15 Yeah, he was at Rikers, so it's possible that he, they cut some kind of deal in there, right?
02:02:22 Yeah, there was some overlap. They did meet each other in prison at one point.
02:02:26 They did, yeah.
02:02:26 In fact, I think they even cover that in the Netflix movie, but they make it look like he's like, "Why? Why didn't you tell him the truth that you were the only rapist? And he's like, "Okay. And, like, I think that's.. I think that's what's in the Netflix movie. I'm not positive.
02:02:40 Yeah, so that's a positive possible motive. He might have had prison threats or benefits. He was already going away for life, no chance of parole under any circumstances. So, what difference does it make? He had major inconsistencies in his account of the details, and so what I think was this from the Armstrong report. Actually, I'm not sure I got this from I'm doing Ray's confession in DNA, but now I'm like, did I get this? I think it was from the Armstrong report. The panel suggests a more likely scenario. The five participated in an initial assault consistent with their pilot pattern. Okay, good. Then Ray's joined or followed, inflicting more brutal injuries, so this aligns with the jury's original view of an unknown additional attacker,
02:03:26 right.
02:03:26 And then, of course, she had the multiple hand prints on her body, so I think that it's obvious, like when you, when you talk to a layman about their, about their case, it sounds insane that somebody got raped, and then later somebody was like, "Oh, I'm just gonna rape this chick too, but it, that is what happened in this case, and what we don't know, the only thing we really don't know, there, this is not much of a mystery, this case, we don't know how close she was to dying after the Central Park Five, when they were done with her, how close she was to dying, like we know that they beat her, but we don't know if they nearly beat her to death.
02:04:02 Well, there's also, there's also, remember, there's also indication that race was actually part of the initial attack, because Corey Weiss, in an interview with police, mentioned that a man by the name of, was it Raymond, not Raymond, I have it somewhere here. Let me look it real quick, but he mentioned to cops, here we are, blah blah, Rudy was the name, alright, so race claim and evidence the participation of the defendants, they include blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, Santana and Richardson separately pointed out the location of the rape, blah blah blah. All right, here's the Rudy part. When Weiss was questioned, he made reference to a man named Rudy who took the woman's Walkman.
02:04:52 The description of the woman's Walkman pouch was similar to Ray's description of a fanny pack at the time of his interview. The police had no way of knowing that the jogger had a Walkman or that she carried it in a pouch. Weiss also commented on the amount of blood at the spot where the rape had occurred.
02:05:10 When asked what, why he was so surprised by the amount of blood, he answered, I knew she was bleeding, but I didn't know how bad she was. It was really dark, I couldn't see how much blood there was at night, but it's, yeah, but as far as the fanny pack thing goes, the race, when he, one of the claims that they say proves that he was the only, he was the lone attacker, is he mentions that when, after he raped her, he took her Walkman and her fanny pack, that it was inside of, and that the that had not been known to police until his confession.
02:05:47 Well, when they did the Armstrong review of the evidence, they actually found out that Corey Weiss did mention that someone named Rudy had taken the Walkman inside a fanny pack, inside a pouch, and guess what, race at the time was using the name Rudy at one of his jobs that he had.
02:06:10 Yeah,
02:06:11 so there is actual evidence that that not only did he participate, but that Weiss actually knew his name, or at least, knew him by Rudy, and that he witnessed at least part of that aspect of the attack, and him taking the Walkman in the pouch. You're telling his bottom line is, you're not dealing with reasonable people that are trying to accurately relay the information about an event that happened. You're dealing with 60 IQ people, some of them, who, by the way, even though they said they weren't, might have been on crack, you know, might have been all fucked up on something. We're attacking a woman in the middle of the dark in a frenzy during a night of wilding, and they're all trying to minimize their involvement and trying to get away with attempted murder, essentially. And so the accounts that you're going to get are not going to be the best accounts,
02:07:06 and this is so outrageous. This is such a psyop on white people, this case, because if you ask any person, any average person, yeah, and Devon Tracy did this in, I think, his Discord, he was asking people in his Discord, so there's a positive selection bias, and they were like, oh, it was such a miscarriage of justice. I'm so glad they got that money that they're speaking out. It's like, oh my god.
02:07:28 Go to go to the YouTube comments on all the confession videos, and it's pages of normies going, it's so terrible what they did to these young men. You can tell he's innocent by the way he's nervous. That's like, yeah, he wouldn't be nervous because he raped a bitch, and he's now he's in the police department, having to confess to it with his parents sitting next
02:07:49 to him. No, no, no, I've listened to a lot of actual false confessions that were exonerated through legitimate DNA evidence, like not, not like in this case, and in those cases it's people like, I can't, I can't remember, and, and I don't know, and then they're looking to answers from the police. None of them, not one that I've seen, has been super long form, like these, like these confessions. I don't think that they have any of the hallmarks. They don't seem tired, they don't seem hungry, they don't even seem particularly upset or stressed out, right? Like, I.. there's.. if you watch these confessions, I don't know how anybody can come to the conclusion that these are false confessions.
02:08:27 Yeah, they're oddly nonchalant about it, if anything.
02:08:29 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, the way that this has been.. and so now five piece of shit black kids, violent black kids, are living out their lives as multi millionaires, and what they do for a living is motivational speaking about the wrongful imprisonment of people like them, people like them. It's just such an outrage, like it pains me to say this, but Donald Trump was right about this.
02:08:57 Yeah, I found this, this news report when I was doing research, Central Park Five's Corey Weiss, the guy we were just talking about, buys a $925,000 New York penthouse with views of the park 20 years after he was wrongly convicted of rape.
02:09:15 What year was this?
02:09:16 This is 19 or 2019
02:09:20 Oh, it was probably a piece of shit. Then, a million dollars.
02:09:22 Yeah. 2019 says Corey Weiss of the Exonerated Five has purchased a New York penthouse. The it's, yeah, it's small. Listen to square footage. The $925,000 one bedroom 803 square foot condo is in a luxury building in Harlem, is there luxury buildings in Harlem?
02:09:43 Yeah, Harlem is pretty nice now.
02:09:44 Weiss was one of the five teens wrongfully convicted of raping a Central Park jogger. He spent 14 years in prison due to the 1989 case, but in 2002 was exonerated. Wise is the only one of the men who have stayed in. York City, after the release, Weiss, along with Anton McCray, Kevin Richardson, Raymond Santana, and Youssef Salam, were sued, or sued the state, and received $41 million in 2014 They got an additional 3.9 million in 2016 and Weiss received 1.5 million from it. So, yeah, he's living in a, a luxury Harlem condo overlooking the park where he raped in his early youth.
02:10:31 Wow,
02:10:32 so that's that's what happens.
02:10:35 It's so awful. This worst story of so
02:10:38 this is the jury, by the way, is a picture of the jury. It's like all nigs, it's like, yeah, nag people, there's not a, there's one white guy, or maybe two,
02:10:48 I see
02:10:49 Rosie Perez in there,
02:10:50 right, some fat Jew, yeah, Nick Fuentes, his dad, you know, you got, I mean, it's, it's, it's like a fucking un over here, it's that's the, that's the thing, is they weren't, they weren't racistly convicted, the lead investigator was, was part black, I mean, it's it's it's all just a fucking farce, but anyway, ah,
02:11:17 I know this was a tough one, guys,
02:11:19 yes, it was,
02:11:20 it's, it's difficult, the to listen to those confessions. I know this wasn't a super funny episode. I know, I know that this was heavy, but this isn't important. It's important that people understand the ways that our justice system will bend over backwards to accommodate black people and minorities in general. Like, it's just incredible. These people are set for life, set for life, because they raped and attempted, murdered a woman that was just going about her business.
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02:13:40 I think they know. I think that's how it works, all right. So, let's take a look at you. Want to do yours, don't do mine first. What do you want to do?
02:13:49 Sure, we can do mine. Let me reload. Do it, dude. Man, I'm so depressed. That story just..
02:13:55 it's a bummer.
02:13:56 Well, there's.. there's no justice, and you know, even if I guess there, there is some justice in that they served their turn. They did serve their fully inadequate, though their sentences were woefully inadequate. But the real injustice here, outside of course, what happened to Tricia and the other victims, is that they are going down in history as persecuted people, despite committing this horrific crime, and it's like the sense of injustice is just so heavy all day. I've been like, oh, I don't want to talk about this, and the irony of this is that a lot of people feel the same sense of injustice about the case, but they think it is because they were also imprisoned. Yeah,
02:14:39 those are the people we call race trading idiots that should put in the pit.
02:14:44 I know I want to kill so many people involved in this.
02:14:48 Yeah, I did have a murderous rage about me all day long.
02:14:51 Oh
02:14:52 man, it's
02:14:52 hard to contain.
02:14:53 And then, like, I have to, I have to commiserate and kind of it. End up liking this, this black investigator, and then like this other Jewish DA, like this female Jewish DA. I'm like, she really got the raw end of this deal. Like, what is happening, Lucien Lachance? No, no. Thank you, sir. Ex-Gen Rebellion: when the law becomes unjust, the just become outlaws, intellectual outlaws reject the Marxist paradigm. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Rome, no, no, mr. Me. Hey, don't face fag for a woman, bro code. What does this mean?
02:15:36 Oh, he's talking about how I have, I have prevented my camera from working.
02:15:43 What is face fagging?
02:15:44 Showing my face.
02:15:46 Oh, oh, so you shouldn't show your face because I pressure on you. Okay, right. All right. No, this guy, this guy's totally right. I mean, Devon would never listen. He's never ever going to be persuaded by anything. He's truly a maverick. This guy's important. imports still suck. Can you start over? I just got here. Sorry, just be part of the replay. Gang Blunderbuss. I'm surprised that JF Groiper Air Epsy Airpe is so favorable to the Nick first movement, especially since they've feuded before. I don't know, I mean, after JF made that video about me, I just think he can do no wrong. I'm like, you killed your wife, I don't give a shit, that's
02:16:30 fine. Well, I hope, yeah, I obviously, I actually had a little bit of a exchange with him about this very topic, and I'll have to say I'm pretty sure I came out the winner, pretty sure I ratioed on every reply, and by the end of it he had nothing to say other than trying to like someone else's reply that was substandard, I must say, but yeah, pretty sure I, and you know, just maybe, maybe, maybe you know, maybe you're French, and you just fucking keep out of it anyway, huh.
02:17:13 Well, he's French Canadian, so you know,
02:17:15 obviously, I don't know what that is, other than I think there's people trying to clout chase Nick, and I'm just, you know, I'm just pointing that out. I don't think that's controversial. I think there's a lot of people who are think that if they lose the grip or audience, then they can't exist on their own. And
02:17:33 why would anybody think that?
02:17:34 Well, retarded, it is retarded, but there are a lot of people that feel very threatened by, like, the handful of Spurg responses they get on Twitter when they say something against Nick, and well,
02:17:46 you know what's a griper? It doesn't mean you're always going to be a grouper. All of us have gone through some sort of political evolution here, and I have to believe that his dumb ass takes, like this Chud commentary, is just peeling people off.
02:17:58 No, it's.. it's.. yeah, I mean, he's obviously he's going to be like a Steven Crowder, like I've been saying, like he's got to be a Steven Crowder, very.. it's already happening, so yeah, I don't.. I don't know, I think there's some people that think, though, that that's, you know, that's the, the way to go if you want to maintain an audience, and you know, you think that you can't afford to lose any more than you've already lost, so I think there's people that are like that.
02:18:28 Well, you did the right thing with Nick, like you came out early against him, you took the hit, and then you built,
02:18:35 and then I was right, that I was proven right. Yeah,
02:18:39 and so if you can, if you're one of those content creators that can be like, oh, then we'll fuck you guys if you don't like me anymore for saying what's true, and you can just wait it out, then you'll come out victorious and unbreakable. And I think that's what's happening here, mr. Ripley, Ragstein Rev. Oy, they shut it down, check it out, it's a banger, boy, they shut it down. Okay. Thank you, sir. Matthew Harrison says roof hole revolution. Let me reload. You guys have been super generous tonight. Thank you. I think we're good over here.
02:19:17 All right, we got over here. We got Purple cat meant says Happy World Bee Day. Love the show. Thank you both. Is it World B Day today?
02:19:26 I don't know.
02:19:28 It might be.
02:19:30 I actually know, Devon.
02:19:31 I was checking on my bees yesterday at a remote yard that I hadn't been to in a shameful amount of time. Not so many survivors, there was I had like 10 hives there, three of them are still going, and they're pissed. So,
02:19:47 do you ever get emotionally attached to your bees?
02:19:50 Not, not the mean ones, and they're almost all mean now. So, like,
02:19:53 oh yeah,
02:19:54 I just stopped caring, because in fact, if anything, you start to see them as like adversaries, like. You're, you're having to, like, you're, you're enjoying stealing the honey from them, because you're just like, that's right, you fuckers, as they're trying to sting you to death. You're just like, I'm taking your fucking honey. What's up now, bitch? Yeah, I've become very adversarial with some of my bees, and that whole yard. The reason why it's remote is they were all really pissy bees, and so the fact that they were all dead wasn't like a big loss,
02:20:26 yeah, yeah.
02:20:27 So, and then I saw an eagle fly overhead, which was kind of cool. It even made like the eagle sound, it was like, you know, like I can't do it,
02:20:34 that's pretty good. It
02:20:36 was kind of fun, so that was kind of, yeah, but yeah, and all my, all my swarm traps, except the one that I thought would have bees in it, have bees, so that was also good. So I did some bee stuff yesterday. Let's see here. Then we got Purple Cat Mint, says Devon, please don't accuse your Africanized bees of chimping out, that would be racist for each Chud the builder. Yeah, no, they definitely chimp out, they chip out fucking hard, and sometimes I feel like I should just like chud the builder, I should take out a gun and just fucking blow their hive away, but I don't do it, I haven't done it yet. Then we got likes to watch, says keep up the great work, you two. Well, I appreciate that. Thank
02:21:19 you so much. Then
02:21:21 we got the Shadow Band, says I'll have to be a VOD boy for this one, but thanks for all the great content. Well, I appreciate that. And hello to you in the future. Alright, then we got Figure Nugget 88 says I feel like Sandy Hook, and or a Las Vegas m2 40 B would be a perfect, or would be perfect for outlaws. I know they get litigious, but we need to, we need the breakdown. Well, I'd say Sandy Hook, you know, obviously they are litigious, and that, and yeah, so I'd have some reservations, because I don't have. well, neither does you know, I guess Alex Jones, but I don't have like $6 billion or whatever the fuck it cost to cover that thing, but yeah, there's something up with that, and
02:22:12 he, oh, it
02:22:12 was just an..
02:22:13 it's, it's literally ridiculous, $60 billion it's something, it's might as
02:22:18 well trillion, yeah,
02:22:19 it might as well be like, you know, infinity money, but yeah. And look, that to me, that just makes it look more suspicious. Honestly, it makes Sandy Hook look more suspicious. There's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up with that, and that's all. We got Gorilla Hands says, Am I the only one who is becoming fatigued? The good news is the normies are starting to wake up and notice who owns our governments in the West. Maybe things will eventually change for the best. Maybe.
02:22:52 No, man, that's so funny that you bring that up. Because yesterday I messaged Cameron on Telegram, and I was like, I don't give a shit about this Thomas Massie thing, is this wrong? And he's like, can you call me right now? So I just talked to him about, like, why I don't care about this, and I realized that the reason that I don't care about this is that we're never gonna get out of this through political solutions. So when people keep trying, right, it makes me exhausted, and now everybody's doing the same thing, of like it's rigged, the Jews rigged. I'm like, yeah, they fucking rig every election,
02:23:24 so therefore
02:23:25 are we even doing this anymore? So, like, I just don't care. I just, I just have no feelings about this Massey thing, because it's just so predictable. I don't know, and then Cameron did his silver linings bullshit. We'll talk about it tomorrow on the on the reset, but he's probably right that people are going to wake up in droves if they still were being, you know, led to the slaughter by constitutional conservatism. So, we'll see what he has to say.
02:23:50 We'll see. I don't hold.. I'm gonna hold my breath. Then we got the Supreme Rabbi Satan has a bunch of monkey emojis, and I can't.. I don't know what that could possibly mean. Then we got a risen Ryan says Dave Own, I, or am I crazy, or do you struggle with pronouncing the number nine? I swear, most of the time it sounds like I'm hearing a G at the end. I don't know. Does it sound this? Do I say nine weird?
02:24:23 No.
02:24:25 789
02:24:27 Yeah, you do just kind of say it weird.
02:24:29 Do I
02:24:30 say it again?
02:24:30 7899 11 nine.
02:24:34 Are you
02:24:35 joking?
02:24:35 No, I'm just.. that's how I say it.
02:24:37 Is that actually how you say it?
02:24:38 Yeah, 911911 Yeah, I guess I do have put a little bit of a G in there, huh?
02:24:46 This happened. Did you have a stroke?
02:24:49 I'm gonna say it's like regional accent. How about that?
02:24:52 Hell, like how I say bagel.
02:24:54 Yeah, that sounds weird.
02:24:55 Yeah, nine.
02:24:58 I also say crayon instead of crayon. That makes people, yeah, crayon, so nine crayon. I have nine crayons. I don't know, maybe. Yeah, maybe I've never.. no one's ever told me I say it weird, but maybe I do. There's.. I'm
02:25:19 sure the
02:25:19 internet, where people can make you insecure about something you never thought about before.
02:25:23 I'm sure I've got like a list of a very long list of things I say weird. Then we got Mo Jack says, "Finally catching y'all live. Hair looks great. Rebecca, wish me luck. I'm flying into the true belly of the beast, San Francisco, and I
02:25:38 lived.
02:25:38 Damn,
02:25:39 offend Niggs, homos, commies, and every retard..
02:25:43 I, it pains me to say this too, but I've heard that San Francisco is looking pretty good these days from some credible sources that they've like really gotten their shit together.
02:25:53 No more poo, poo streets,
02:25:55 I mean, I can't imagine they have eliminated all the poo, right?
02:26:00 San Francisco is just like, a, it's just kind of even when it's nice, it's shitty, though, right? Yeah, because it's not, it's really not the homeless people, it's the people, you know, like have homes, really, you know, in San Francisco, because when I lived, I lived in, well, I lived in a suburb, I lived right outside the city, and so I spent some time there, and working with people in that area, and it was just like, I fucking hated it. I hated everyone I met, like everyone I met.
02:26:28 Yeah,
02:26:29 I'd go to
02:26:30 a bar, and I would just like everyone I talked to, I had hate them, like within five minutes of
02:26:36 meeting.
02:26:36 Yeah, and that's why I left, because I couldn't handle anymore. I was like, I can't meet anyone that I have even like anything in common with at all. The dating scene was a fucking nightmare. I mean, so many whores, by the way, so many like, I mean, like whores. Like, what are we talking here? I'm not gonna, well, whores. I'm just gonna tell you, lot of loose women in San Francisco with like no morals whatsoever. Who don't have any interest in you taking them out to dinner first. It was a
02:27:07 what are
02:27:07 they getting out of
02:27:09 it? Wow, no. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you, I was weirded out. This is the only time this has ever happened to me. I match with someone on a dating app.
02:27:18 What app
02:27:19 might have been Tinder or something. This was years ago. This is many years ago, and I started talking. I was like, oh, you know, she seems kind of normal, like she looked like a normal girl, and had like a tech job, I think. And I was like, talk to her before I could get to, like, the hey, maybe I take you out to, like, you know, like coffee or something like that. She, her proposal was, I drive to her house, I park in her driveway, she would come down and fuck me in my car, and while her, I'm assuming her husband or boyfriend was in the house, and then she would go back, and like that was her proposal for the evening, and I was like, yeah, no, that's kind of weird. I mean,
02:28:05 I, you know, sorry, that just doesn't sound like a fun time. I mean, in, you know, yeah, obviously, in a weird way, sort of not really. I mean, when you, I mean, on paper, but like, when you really think about it, you're like, no, because how many other guys, first of all, I've got this message, you know what I mean, but yeah, just shit like that, like just we're talking, it's San Francisco, so you're talking about just like total psychopaths, people that the sexual revolution never stopped, and so I got followed by like some four foot gay Mexican, maybe, maybe this was Nick, because this was a few years ago before I knew he was, but I got no, I seriously,
02:28:40 I went out one night, and this fucking guy followed me, like followed me, like bar to bar, and he didn't speak English, but he kept trying to talk to me, and like this, yeah, it was so fucking weird, like I ended up just getting a cab and going home, because I thought he was gonna try to like rape me or something weird like that, he was for sure gonna try to rape you. It was so weird, you
02:29:02 could have
02:29:02 just pushed him over, though.
02:29:04 It's just such a degenerate city, and like everyone that you meet, like I met my first like actual satanist, like I mean, like full blown. I don't mean like that I'm larping as a satanist because I'm a libertarian. I mean, like I.. I'm I pray to Satan, and I actually believe in the power of Satan, kind of satanist in San Francisco. Yeah, it's just a fucking total house. And again, this was.. I don't know, like it's been a long time now, almost not, not, not quite 10 years ago, but it was a long time ago. No, actually, it was about 10 years ago. We're getting old. We're getting old.
02:29:40 How old are you?
02:29:42 Too old. This is about 10 years ago. This was before. This was the reason I know it was because I've been doing this for 10 years, and I started doing this like right after I left San Francisco, so it was over 10 years ago.
02:29:54 Well, I'm 38, Devon. You're...
02:29:58 Older than that, all right, so. Then we got TMK 1335 says I've been monitoring symptoms after being bitten by a Lone Star tick a week ago, had flu symptoms for a few days, but according to Dr. Grock, I should be fine, still a very stressful experience. Do either of you think the tick explosion is part of another WEF scheme? If so, holy shit, we have the willpower to avoid a COVID shot, but they still found a way to reach out and touch you. What are your thoughts on this tick stuff that people are
02:30:37 okay?
02:30:37 So, I haven't done enough research on it to opine. My mom's totally on board, so I don't know, there might be something there. I don't put it past the government or anything like that, but I'm not seeing massive, widespread health issues. But then I wasn't really with COVID. I need to do more research. I'm not particularly concerned about it. I will say that maybe I should be.
02:30:58 Well, we don't have ticks here, so I don't worry about that, the desert is pretty tick free, but I will say that I, I have heard, I have heard stories, it's all anecdotal evidence that there have been absurd amounts of ticks in parts of the country that do get ticks, and so I don't know, I don't know what to make of that. I've also heard, and I've never researched this, that there is actually good evidence that suggests that the whole Lyme disease thing, from ticks, there really is a connection to a government lab, you know, going back to like the 1950s or something like that, like that, that's not just crazy town like that, actually,
02:31:41 that's
02:31:41 true, but then all of this has been confounded by people saying they have Lyme disease, when really they just have Munchausen or something,
02:31:49 right? Right? No, I trust
02:31:51 it's
02:31:51 like I have fibromyalgia and Lyme disease, I'm like, you're fucking crazy, you have borderline personality disorders,
02:31:58 yeah, so it's tough to know, but as far as the actual, because again, I'll to research it sometime, but yeah, I wouldn't be look, you sound, you sound like you're, you're, you're making through the getting through the symptoms there, so yeah, just keep an eye on it, it's possible, I mean, I wouldn't put a, I mean, in terms of like attack that they would use, yeah. Why wouldn't they? Then we got Gorilla Hand says, I live and grew up in the Northeast. New York is a crime-infested open sewer, as with most of the cities up here now. You can't even take public transportation up here without an incident with teens.
02:32:39 Where is he again?
02:32:41 He just says the Northeast.
02:32:42 Oh, okay, so those teens..
02:32:47 I don't know if there's a whole lot of places in America where public transportation is like a walk in the park, just to be honest. Like, I mean, because I've.. I've taken public transportation in several major cities, including New York, and I never felt like I was safe to relax, you know, like I always.. I was always in attack mode. My head was always on a swivel when I was in, yeah, you know, anytime on any kind of public transportation,
02:33:13 I would just fall asleep. It was awesome,
02:33:15 yeah,
02:33:15 like nothing's happening here. It's great,
02:33:17 yeah. If only
02:33:20 right
02:33:21 then we got Arch Stanton says any chance of an Ahmad Arbery stream? It drives me
02:33:29 nuts that
02:33:30 even many normie cons still believe he was just a nice guy or a nice young Negro who got lynched while jogging. Yeah,
02:33:39 I covered that story so much on the Matt and Blonde show,
02:33:43 like when it was happening.
02:33:45 Yeah, I kind of burnt out about.. I kind of forgotten about it. I don't think that he.. this is kind of a household name, do you? I mean,
02:33:52 no.. I mean, it's a shame that they threw the book at the guys, though.
02:33:56 Yeah, of course.
02:33:58 But yeah, all right. Then we got Tom. Oh, Hawk says I still don't understand how many, or how so many white people still think nons are the same as us. You guys should do a show about Hurricane Katrina. Oh, I did a huge one about that. What should have, or that should have woken up everyone, but said they did.
02:34:15 I know, right?
02:34:17 Look up Potato Hurricane Edition. I know that sounds weird, but I think it's the Insomnia Stream Potato Hurricane edition, and I cover it in great detail. I think I also talk a lot of shit about Kanye before that was fashionable. Let's see here, then we got Figure Naggett says the Lone Star tick allergy is actually not a new phenomenon. As a child, I was allergic to red meat, maybe for 10 years. My throat and esophagus would painfully contract. I eventually recovered. Oh, there you go. Figure Nugget says.
02:34:59 It's not to worry too much about it, if you, unless you like meat. Figure Nugget also says researching my sudden beef and deer allergy alerted my attention to the long or Lone Star tick. Maybe it's Long Star, you put Long Star this time. And even in the 2000 10s, it was already a known issue. I spent my teens avoiding red meat today. It's my favorite. So, there you go. Maybe you can build up a tolerance to it. Then we got Great Wah. They says this story is infuriating and makes me want to visit the grocery store.
02:35:36 Yes, yes, yes, it does. I was having grocery store fantasies the entire time I was researching it, especially listening to those, those fucking interviews, because I've already known way more than once, because I was trying to fix the audio, I know it's shit guys, but you should hear the originals, like, oh, you can't,
02:35:53 it was so
02:35:53 bad,
02:35:54 yeah, so I did what I could, the Shadow Band says sheer scale by which our justice system has been perverted by standards of evidence, admissibility, Miranda rights, etc. Yeah, and as well, like it was meant for, it was a system meant for white people to white people participant, you know, white people were supposed to be the judges, the juries, the lawyers, and the people being tried, and when you start replacing white people in that equation, the whole thing falls apart. Then we got Clancaster with a big dono. Clancaster with a big dono says, "Sorry, if you've already answered this. Thoughts on calling the credit card company to reverse charges to entropy super chats. Last I heard, you suggested waiting until you heard from Entropy. Well, I did hear from Entropy this weekend. And
02:36:48 tell me, Devin, do you have your money?
02:36:50 I do not have the money, but I have been told that the money is coming possibly by beginning the end of this week, so we'll see. I'm a little more optimistic now that I've, now that I've, you know, now that they responded to me a week late, but you know, you know, hopefully, hopefully I'll tell you what I will tell you this. I have talked to others who were owed money that have received most of their money,
02:37:24 terrible, wouldn't they pay at all?
02:37:30 I don't know
02:37:31 at all.
02:37:32 I talked to someone who was also owed a large amount of money, and they said they received most of it, and that's all, you know, I can't say anything else, but they said that, so we'll see. What, let's you know, maybe this weekend we'll look, and maybe some transfer will have taken place, that would be nice. I wish they'd have been a little less salty and a little more apologetic in their response, but they
02:38:00 were, yeah,
02:38:00 for real, they did respond.
02:38:03 They did respond. Denise, the Celt says FYI, Ken Burns has been married twice. Both wives are Jews. Most of his staff members are Jews. He lives in a 96% white neighborhood, very rich wall wall pole. I don't know, that is.
02:38:20 where's that?
02:38:20 I don't know. Population 3970 No foreigners. Burns is an infuriating race trader. Yeah, well, he's the worst kind, because he's the kind that wants to enjoy what he refuses to allow anyone else access to, and that is a safe white neighborhood.
02:38:39 Yep,
02:38:40 Tomahawk says, as the father of a young woman, this story makes me want to do things I can't say online. Yes, yeah, I can agree with that. I was, I was having, I was having those, those exact same thoughts. The more you look into this, the more it's just like, why are these people alive? And let alone millionaires, they shouldn't, they just shouldn't be alive.
02:39:02 Multi millionaires,
02:39:04 Arch Stanton says, Rebecca made a great point that night, or really, no, I'm not gonna read the rest of this, that's just probably lies. After that, the 65 IQ, the 65 IQ hominid couldn't, or could never have remembered all those details in the story if the story wasn't real. That's all the evidence you need. That is true. That's a good point,
02:39:32 buddy.
02:39:33 Yeah, you do make good points, but yeah, that was the amount of detail and unprompted detail and detail that sounded natural. I was sold on that, that being a genuine to some extent. I mean, obviously he's still minimizing, like I was just holding her leg. I wasn't look, if I had to rape someone, I'll just rape them. I'm not gonna beat the shit out of them, like
02:39:57 I can imagine who says it, a convention
02:39:59 that. Is almost what makes
02:40:00 it,
02:40:01 that's almost what makes it genuine, though, because you know he could imagine raping someone, you know that's what made it sound genuine. The fact that he didn't, he didn't have the self-awareness to realize,
02:40:12 say that you stupid. Yeah,
02:40:14 look, this is my first rape, okay? Guys, it's my first rape. I'm never gonna rape again, okay? I've never read before.
02:40:24 That's when the little rape happened.
02:40:25 It's just a little rape. Yeah, that's what makes it feel genuine, because he's just like he was just like this retarded, you know, psycho figure. Naggett says, if this is my first rape, doesn't turn into a sound clip button. I didn't know that was coming.
02:40:43 I'm
02:40:44 gonna snap. You have to use that. Yeah, I know. We'll have to maybe figure out a way of finding humor in that dark, dark episode there. Professor Chaos says, I'll check out the replay later. Keep up the good work, guys. Great Wahita. says Rebecca mentioned destroyed cities at the beginning. Gary, Indiana gets my vote.
02:41:10 Oh man, I heard Gary is terrible. What is it? Is it like 80% black now?
02:41:16 Is it? I've never been to.. I may have driven through Indiana at some point,
02:41:20 okay, it
02:41:20 is 78% black.
02:41:23 Jesus Christ,
02:41:24 non-Hispanic whites are 11% Hispanic, Latino 8%
02:41:29 What white is staying there? Like, what
02:41:32 old timers that are like, "get out of here, you stupid spicks. And a word that I have not read, I'm just not ready to say
02:41:40 you will.
02:41:45 All of all of us. This is from Figure Nugget. All of us violently fucked the hell out of her, except me. Exactly. I was just touching her leg. I was just touching. I felt kind of bad. My friend was laughing. I was like, it's not that funny. Are you laughing?
02:42:02 It's only kind of funny. It's just a little rape.
02:42:05 Mike Hawk, 420 blazon says, if only we could have put these naggers in the roof hole.
02:42:12 I know.
02:42:13 Absolutely very generous, by the way. Mike Hawk, appreciate that,
02:42:19 man. I'm pro-life. I'm like a staunch pro-life advocate. I can't think of a single situation where I would have an abortion when I was reading..
02:42:27 well, not you, but I can..
02:42:30 I'm
02:42:30 starting to get a little wishy-washy on pro.. I
02:42:32 know. So I'm listening to the story, I'm like, God, couldn't their mothers have just like done what all these other black women.
02:42:39 well, really, honestly, what it is, is the moral thing should be for sterilization,
02:42:46 like
02:42:46 everyone, everyone involved in that wilding that wasn't put to death, which should have been all of them, should have been forced sterilized, and they're all their family members, anyone has any, a, you know, one like any immediate family members should have been forced sterilized,
02:43:03 and now those five guys have like 30 kids,
02:43:07 yeah, billions of kids. There's like millions, billions of rape is running around now.
02:43:12 And imagine the women that would hook up with him after something like that.
02:43:16 Well, you're assuming it was voluntary. All right, then we got..
02:43:19 oh no, you think it's a bunch of great babies
02:43:22 running around? It's possible, like I said. Ah, look, I'll rape. Okay, I'm just not gonna beat the shit out of him when I rape. So, maybe these are the ones he didn't beat the shot of. I mean, he's got like, he's got that so depressed. Fred Flintstone says, "Hey, Devin, found you and started my reawakening, headed backwards through your streams until I understand the grocery store lore. How far back am I gonna have to go? It might be grocery store edition, I think, right? That's that's quite a few years. How long
02:43:56 ago was
02:43:57 it? A
02:43:58 few years ago, I mean, the reference isn't that tricky. It's just that actually you have to go to the one right before the grocery store edition, I think, because I had to make the grocery store sound in response to people complaining that I thought the grocery store tactic was, was, was, was not the smartest. Let me just put it this way,
02:44:24 if
02:44:26 you're gonna go to a grocery store to do what some people have done, maybe go somewhere else where there's more, where there's fatter fish to fry. That's all I'm gonna say.
02:44:37 Fat or fish to fry.
02:44:39 Then we got Mike Hawk, 420 blazing says gas the kites now, race or race war now kites. He says, like flying a
02:44:48 kites. It's fine, they just had kites, you too. I'm
02:44:51 flying a kite, huh?
02:44:53 Dude, it's been almost three hours that I've had an eyelash in my eye, and I just got it out at the end of the. Show, God,
02:45:01 I was wondering what you're doing over there,
02:45:03 dude. It was driving me, because it was like really painful, like I got to get this out, and it just came out.
02:45:09 I just thought I'm
02:45:09 sorry, guys. No, sorry about the replay. I just.. I had to get it. I had to get out of my face.
02:45:15 I thought the Nick fatigue was giving you a migraine or something.
02:45:18 You saying Nick or Nick, because I'm fatigued from
02:45:21 one Nick, too. I guess I mean, is there only a difference? So we got a.. I believe that's it. I think we're here
02:45:30 now. Let's go to Entropy.
02:45:32 No,
02:45:34 never, never, never, never. Okay, I think we're good over here. Thank you, guys, so much. We stream every Wednesday. I am Rebecca Hargraves. You can find me on my YouTube channel at Blonde and the Belly of the Beast. You can find me on X at Blondes underscore tweets. You can find me on Instagram at Blonde Beast. Also, follow me on Rumble. What is my Rumble at Blonde Beast? And I do a show with Cameron MacGregor on Thursdays that is called The Reset. You can find that on my YouTube channel. And then I have an interview with the author that we spoke of earlier, his name is Kurt for Antelope Hill on Friday on my YouTube channel, so check that out.
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