What is Propertarianism? Pillstream #4
Stream Summary
This stream features a detailed conversation between Devon Stack and guest John Mark about the political philosophy of Propertarianism, developed by Kurt Doolittle. The discussion explores the foundational concepts, practical implications, and potential benefits of Propertarianism as an alternative system of governance. Key topics include the definition of property, the principle of reciprocity, mechanisms for preventing parasitism, and the role of law and judiciary. The stream also addresses questions from viewers about economics, religion, social cohesion, and the challenges of implementing such a system in the current political climate.
- Introduction to Propertarianism and its origins
- Definition of property (including intangible and commonly owned assets)
- Principle of reciprocity and its role in law
- Mechanisms for preventing parasitism and enforcing honesty
- Role and potential risks of the judiciary in Propertarianism
- Discussion of generational wealth, banking, and debt slavery
- Debate on religion, morality, and cultural cohesion
- Viewer questions on economics, social credit systems, drug use, and more
- Reflection on peaceful separation, civil conflict, and the future of the right
- Superchat Q&A covering a wide range of related topics
Sources
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Propertarianism (Kurt Doolittle) – https://propertarianism.com/
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John Mark Says (YouTube channel) – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd1oQUPg2pTQJrL6pXkzKXA
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The Hive Mind by Garrett Jones (book) – https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691168367/hive-mind
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Murdoch Murdoch (web series) – No verified link available
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Day of the Rope by Devon Stack (book) – No verified link available
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Roller Dog (children's book) – No verified link available
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Anarchy USA (1966 documentary) – https://www.jbs.org/store/shopjbs/anarchy-usa-dvd/
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John Birch Society – https://jbs.org/
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patreon.com/blackpilled – https://www.patreon.com/blackpilled
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subscribestar.com/blackpilled – https://www.subscribestar.com/blackpilled
Key Points of Wisdom
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[00:07:43] "Our law does not recognize a safe neighborhood or a high trust culture as forms of property. But those are forms of property. So what Propertarianism does is it teaches us to think of that as a form of property because it is."
Context: On expanding the definition of property to include intangible assets.
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[00:11:09] "The first big insight of propertarianism: a full definition of property. And then the second improvement in Rule of law is just reciprocity."
Context: Summarizing the foundational principles.
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[00:17:21] "Any legislation that is passed by the houses of government has to be double checked and vetted and approved by the judiciary to ensure that it is reciprocal, to ensure that it is not parasitic upon any group or any form of property in the nation before it can be passed into law."
Context: On the proposed legislative safeguard in Propertarianism.
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[00:40:15] "The third improvement in Rule of law for propertarianism is what we call testimonialism, which is that people can sue public figures if they lie in public."
Context: Mechanism for enforcing honesty and accountability.
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[01:02:22] "You cannot have a first world nation without high trust, and high trust is created by stamping out parasitism."
Context: On the importance of trust and social cohesion.
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[01:26:23] "Propertarianism points out a universal morality which is reciprocity. And you can accurately call that a morality because you can say anything that is not reciprocal is immoral because you can empirically point out: if this gets violated, your society sucks. If this gets protected and reciprocity is enforced, your society rocks."
Context: On reciprocity as a universal moral standard.
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[01:35:18] "If we just reboot the Constitution, we're just going to be right back where we started... something needs to happen because this, if we don't, we're just going to end up in the same place."
Context: On the need for systemic change.
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[01:53:02] "It's designed to cut out parasitism and once you go beyond that, where it's just you're trying to protect something that's not really a parasitic activity, I don't think it would fly."
Context: On the limits of mob rule and the focus on preventing parasitism.
Hyperchat Summary
- Superchats included questions and comments about Propertarianism, economics, religion, social credit systems, drug use, and more.
- Supportive messages and donations from viewers to the host and guest.
- Requests for opinions on related topics and figures (e.g., Adam Green, John Birch Society, Murdoch Murdoch).
- Technical issues briefly interrupted the stream, but the conversation continued.
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