OUTLAWS： DNA Destiny

Stream Summary

In this episode of Outlaws, hosts Devon Stack and Rebecca Hargraves discuss the infamous "Jewish identical twins / triplets separation study" conducted from the 1960s to late 1970s by psychiatrist Peter Neubauer in collaboration with Louise Wise Services adoption agency in New York. The conversation centers on the famous 1980 reunion of identical triplets Bobby Shafran, Eddy Galland, and David Kellman, who were deliberately separated at birth and placed in different socioeconomic Jewish families as part of a secret nature-vs-nurture experiment. They explore striking behavioral similarities among the separated siblings, the study's unethical design (no informed consent, deliberate deception), its apparent goal of proving nurture over nature, the suppression of results (sealed at Yale until 2065), high rates of mental illness and suicide among participants, and broader implications for genetics, heritability of behavior, race realism, and Jewish involvement in controversial psychological research.

• The 1980 triplets reunion story and media frenzy (Donahue, Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings appearances)
• Multiple other separated Jewish twin pairs discovered through the same agency
• Peter Neubauer, Viola Bernard, and the Louise Wise / Jewish Board of Guardians role
• Ethical violations, lack of consent, and secrecy of the study
• Heritability of personality, mental illness, smoking, partner choice, career interests
• High suicide and mental health issues among study participants (including one triplet)
• Bobby Shafran's 1979 involvement in a robbery-murder case
• Critique of blank-slate / nurture-over-nature ideology and Jewish projection narratives
• Modern twin studies (e.g., Robert Plomin) showing strong genetic influence on behavior
• Implications for race, behavior, free will, and current societal debates

Sources

• Three Identical Strangers (2018 documentary)
  Official site: http://www.threeidenticalstrangers.com/
• Records from controversial twin study sealed at Yale until 2065
  Yale Daily News: https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/10/01/records-from-controversial-twin-study-sealed-at-yale-until-2065/
• Desperately Seeking Susan (1985 film)
  Official trailer (MGM): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngAdpRVhHzY
• TODAY Show coverage of the triplets (1981 / retrospective)
  NBC TODAY article: https://www.today.com/parents/three-identical-strangers-documentary-tells-triplets-amazing-tale-t133040
• The Phil Donahue Show appearances (1980s)
  No verified link available.
• Tom Brokaw television interview featuring the triplets
  No verified link available.
• Peter Jennings television interview featuring the triplets
  No verified link available.
• Louise Wise Services (adoption agency)
  Historical overview: https://pages.uoregon.edu/adoption/topics/firstspecial.html

Key Points of Wisdom

• [57:40] Natasha Josefowitz: “I did not believe that it’d be as much hereditary as it was. That was more than any of us thought.”
  (Reflecting on the unexpectedly strong genetic influence observed in the study)
• [58:25] Natasha Josefowitz: “It’s disturbing. We don’t like that. People don’t like to hear it… finding out never mind doesn’t matter what you do.”
  (On societal resistance to genetic determinism and loss of perceived free will)
• [1:17:18] Rebecca Hargraves (paraphrasing Robert Plomin): “Shared environments account for like, 0%... the remainder [is] non-shared environments… and how people react to them [is] genetic.”
  (Summarizing modern behavioral genetics showing minimal role for shared upbringing)
• [1:22:05] Devon Stack: “The whole argument of nature versus nurture is retarded because it’s all nature. It’s 100% nature.”
  (Strong conclusion drawn from the evidence presented)
• [1:27:16] Devon Stack: “People are now denying science… throwing out science because of people that abuse it is insane.”
  (Critique of anti-genetic reasoning on parts of the political right)

Hyperchat Highlights

• [1:30:42] righteous muffin: can’t listen now, take my shackles for another great stream
• [~1:31:00] Optimistically Pessimistic: Hey Devon, I sent in a super chat a few seconds before you ended the stream on Saturday…
• [1:32:27] user account: love the show. How do my fiance and I best scam the welfare system? I want to live rich like Jews in Lakewood, New Jersey.
• [1:34:43] Arcade Output Outpost: please check the Kendler experiments that ran from 60s to 2000s as a sister piece… (Kentler experiment mention)
• [1:35:33] Vincent Pendragon & others: various short supports and comments
• [1:36:02] FUBAR nation: Thanks for pointing out another crazy example of Jewish behavior.
• [1:36:30] A Soft and Quiet 1488: I hope you two will do some Thinking Like an Outlaw content…
• [1:37:02] Crazy Horse Josiah: If Normandy never conquered England in 1066, we would be living in a wider, better world…
• [1:38:20] No long pork & others: The older I get, the more I realize the stuff Jews accuse Mengele of, they actually did…
• [1:39:41] The supreme Rabbi Satan & others: oy vey / various short reactions
• [1:41:16] Jacob Winkelman / others: various comments on ethnicity, support donations
• [1:43:24] Todd Campbell: Have you ever heard of or reviewed The Net by Lutz Dammbeck…

Hyperchat Contributors

• righteous muffin
• Optimistically Pessimistic
• user account
• Arcade Output Outpost
• Vincent Pendragon
• FUBAR nation
• A Soft and Quiet 1488
• Crazy Horse Josiah
• No long pork
• The supreme Rabbi Satan
• Jacob Winkelman
• Todd Campbell
• various others (short supports under different names)