OUTLAWS： Episode 4, WINEVILLE MURDERS - 03/24/2026

00:00:58 I Know, You You You Man, Ah, watching outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack. Hey, we made another show happen. Can you believe it?
00:04:12 Welcome back to another fun episode of outlaws, probably the last one we're going to be doing at noon, but is it is at noon.
00:04:25 So tell people why we're changing the time, because it makes us look like considerate right wing folk, honest right wing folk. We don't want to compete with Mark Collette, he he's had this time slot for a long time. We don't want to take his viewers. So we are going to be changing to a later time. It has nothing to do with the lag donations.
00:04:45 Well, I just think it's, it's better later in the evening when people are off, people were saying that when we were first talking about doing it later when people were off work. So and I think, you know, it is kind of weird, a weird time slot, unless we were just talking to housewives, I guess. That's that this would be, this is the good. This is like the housewife slot. So maybe that's, uh, that. Mean, that's why you wanted it so much. This was your idea of buddy. Okay, it kind of was, but, uh, before
00:05:13 we get started. Oh, I'm Rebecca Hargraves. This is Devon Stack. Before we get started. I don't know if you want to save this for Saturday, but can we get a little churro update?
00:05:22 Oh, yeah, churros fresh out of the hospital. I had to take him to the the pet hospital. He I had to chop down a small tree to get to him. He hobbled into some bush, a very spiky Bush surrounded by Cactus, and it was like, it's like his little spot when he's out there. And I was a little worried, because he he slept all night, and then he hobbled outside and started sleeping in his bush and been like, a few hours, and I'm like, All right, what are you doing? So I tried talking to him in the bush, and he wasn't responding. And so I reached my arm all the way into like, I got so many cuts on my arm doing this, and I was petting him, and he was, like, responding to that. I was like, Okay, well, he's not mad at me, because he seems to like that. I'm petting him. He's not mad that I found him. He was just in a bad mood. Well, he ignores it's a cat. You know, cats will ignore you sometimes, but he was not. He didn't look like he was ignoring me. Look like he just couldn't, he couldn't, he couldn't get, you know, do anything. And I was like, Okay, this is bad. So I couldn't get to him, and I chopped down a tree so I could get in there, and reached in there, scooped him up and scooped him into the car or a little cat carrier thing. And the vets were like, I have there's no vet nearby me, so the closest one is, like 100 miles away, and they were full, so I had to drive further than that to a emergency deal, and they they gave him a bunch of ketamine and shaved him and drained, drained the abscesses and his arms, or, you know, front legs and his head and his tail and doped him up with antibiotics. And, yeah, the vet said that he got kind of spicy with her. So he wasn't, he wasn't totally at it, like, you know, he wasn't, like, at death's door or anything like that. But if I'd waited a couple more days, it probably would have been great. And, you know, having just lost me,
00:07:43 Devon sent me this picture of Cheryl. Like, clearly, just, he's just like, whoa, what's
00:07:51 going on? Like, the biggest pupils ever, yeah. So, yeah, he, they, he's, he's all fixed up now. They, they, literally, it really is ketamine. That's not a joke. They dope dump on ketamine. And said that, you know, he's, he's, he's gonna be kind of acting drunk for a couple of days. I was like, All right, cool. So he's behind me. He's been, Yep, he's passed out. He's been like that since I brought him back last night.
00:08:18 Is there a greater internet cat lore than churro.
00:08:22 Yeah, he's, he's, uh, he doesn't even know it. That's the funniest thing. Is he, he has no concept you don't
00:08:29 pet him and tell him that he's famous. No, no, I don't pet him at all. Sure that Nazis love you.
00:08:33 He doesn't like to be touched stupid cats. No, no, he's, he's, he's a cuddly, cuddly little guy. But, uh, yeah, he's, he's, uh, he's recovering. He looks all stupid because they shaved a bunch of his head and his arms and part of his tail, so he looks all retarded. But he seems happy right now. So yep, churro is churro is back. I was a little stressed out by that whole ordeal, but, yeah, he was cool in the other thing I was worried about, like, because cats hate, cats hate going in cars, yeah, but he was so fucked up, he was just like, whatever. Like, he growled and scratched at me for like, a second when I was shoving him in the car carrier, and that he was just like, I'm out of energy. So it was, it was over with pretty quick.
00:09:27 So on that note, do you want to talk about a pedophile serial killer? Oh, yeah,
00:09:33 that's a good segue. That's a good segue. Well, it's funny because So Rebecca came up with a a story that she thought might challenge some of my previous notions, and actually some of our previous notions, on a on a previous stream, talking about, well, the genetic origin of behavior, and also the institutionalized institutionalization. Or de institutionalization that I recently just streamed on on in the insomnia stream, but as we peel back the onion, not so much.
00:10:12 No, I was I was so excited. I was like, I'm gonna get Devon to develop this nuance perspective on this issue, when we're gonna have to confront things that, no,
00:10:25 well, and I was prepared to do it. I'll tell you what. When I first looked at the story, I was like, Oh, great. I just talked about how we need to get rid of institutions, and how, how, you know, behavior is genetic, and now I gotta, and I gotta look at this here. And then as soon as I looked a little, I was like, Okay, never mind. This is, yeah, why would I doubt myself? Good thing.
00:10:47 You called me this morning because I was gonna say a whole bunch of stupid shit. Thank goodness Devon. Devon wins again.
00:10:57 Well, let's, let's, I guess, let's tell the story. The story is, well, let me do a little wipe here. Actually, first I have to get rid of the the outlaws open, or it'll play again when we go back. All right, we got this guy, right? Yeah, we're gonna talk about this story of this guy, Gordon. What is it? Gordon, it's
00:11:22 Northcott, but it's spelled. It's spelled like it's, I've seen North Scott in a lot of places, but it is Northcott.
00:11:30 Northcott, dirty, filthy Canadian. Filthy, disgusting Canadian. I know I was
00:11:39 like, is there? I'm asking, grok. I'm like, is there a Jew angle to this story? Well, there kind of is Canadian.
00:11:45 No, there kind of is at the end, there kind of is a little bit. We'll talk about that, like very little, tiny bit. But yeah, so this guy was born in Canada, way back in 1906 in Saskatchewan, and his mother, as you can see here. This is a photo of him, age three. Well, she used to dress him up like a girl, yeah, kind of nice. Nothing weird about that. Nothing weird about that. And this is the kind of thing where this is, this is what I was talking about with the the behavior, is it genetic, or is are there things that are influencing you? Because obviously this guy is going to end up being a creep, right? Or we wouldn't be talking about him. And so people will say, actually, I've noticed, in looking up this story, people don't even bring this part up anymore. You know, it used to be something that was brought up all the time, you know, whether you're talking about fictional characters, like, in Silence of the Lambs, like, oh look, trannies. Are these psycho murderer people. But now they whitewash that they like, I think I listened to like, four different podcasts about this case, and they didn't even bring this, this part of the story up that they used to dress him up like a woman. That's convenient. Yeah. So the the mom would dress him up like a girl up until, and he would and have him play with dolls up until he was a teenager. And I think it might have something to do with the fact that his mother looks like a man. She really does, yeah. I mean, like, even when she was young, this is her, when she's young, but when she Yeah, and when she's older, she really looks like a man. But even when she's young, because I was like, well, maybe she just aged really poorly, you know? But no, no, she just always looked like a man and, but we'll get to that here in a second. The the but the idea that, you know, well, she made her, made him play with dolls, and she treated him like a woman and, and that's what made him crazy. The thing that you need to think about is her behavior in doing that which and by the way, it goes far, far, far beyond just dressing up as her son as a little girl and having him play with dolls. There's more psych there's more psychotic behavior, genetically driven psychotic behavior that will come from her as we tell the story here.
00:14:21 Well, she also had lost a lost a child before him.
00:14:24 Well, yeah, well, she was just, she was a, she was a total nutcase, and she obsessed about him. But all that, all that, all that genetically driven behavior of hers, obviously, was inherited, and he inherited a lot of these psychotic behaviors that she will again, like I said, it'll get it'll get more extreme. There she is looking looking more like a man. I mean, holy shit, she just looks like a dude. Like, there's, how does that happen? Like, it's to the point where I did. I started looking to see if maybe she was a dude.
00:14:57 Yeah, seriously. Just looks like a man wearing a wearing a wig, just if I saw that person walking around, I'd be like, That trainer needs to put in more effort.
00:15:06 Well, you know what? That's what trainees have really done a disservice to ugly women. Because how many ugly women do you think go around now and everyone thinks they're a dude? Yeah, because it used to just be like, Oh, that's unfortunate. And in fact, it almost have the opposite effect of, instead of acting grossed out and weird out by the ugly woman that looks like a man, you'd probably be extra nice to her, because you're like, Oh, your life isn't easy, you know. But now it's like, is that a dude? So now you know, if you're an ugly woman, your life is just pure hell, no matter how you look at it, no one's nice. You're incredibly tall. Wow, yeah, yeah. If you're, well, what if? What if you get both? You're like, just this really tall man ish looking woman, it's all over for you. Yep. So anyway, so she's, they live in Canada for a while, and they do this, this little relationship where she's dressing them up like a girl and having them play with dolls. And they decide to, and we'll talk about why later. They decide to go to Los Angeles in the 1920s
00:16:12 which is the reason that they moved to LA is that he was a flamboyant dresser, and the way he talked, apparently, was very faggy, although I couldn't get any audio on it, and they wanted to move somewhere where he would fit in better. So they moved to the faggot land of generates, Los Angeles well.
00:16:29 And this is the roaring 20s too. So a lot of people, we were getting a lot of immigrants, obviously, from around the turn of century, but, but around the 1920s during the roaring 20s, this was like, Oh yeah, the streets are paved with gold and a lot of just degenerate. People were kind of moving out to California because it was basically the the very edge, the very edge of Western society. So they moved there in 1924 and around, and this is when he's about 17 or 18 years old. And then when he turns about 1920 he persuades his father to buy him a chicken farm, which is a little weird, like, Hey, Dad, you want to buy me a chicken farm?
00:17:23 No experience with farming, no experience with chickens. And this was a really remote area at the time. I think they had like, 100 acre farm. It would get 110 degrees during the day. It was really desolate and depressing. There were no structures on the land. And his parents were like, That's weird, but okay. And then they just did it.
00:17:44 Now you're gonna have chickens out there in the middle, middle of nowhere, are you? Yeah, okay, okay, all right. And then, so after he built this, this chicken farm in the middle of nowhere, he decided he needed he couldn't run it himself. He had to get some help. So he got his cousin, who was also Canadian Yuck, to come move in with him and help run the farm, or at least that was that's what he told his cousin Sanford Clark here, that's what he told, uh, his mother, but in reality, would you like to do the honors?
00:18:32 Yeah, thank you. Uh, nothing else happens. That is the end of this story, and we're gonna conclude the stream. Now. I wish he just came on and he was a good little farm hand, and there was nothing abusive going on in the relationship. No, he brings him out there. He immediately starts raping and beating the shit out of him. He makes him sleep in the chicken coop. He sodomizes with him with a broom and other objects. This kid was just totally, horribly abused in every way that you could possibly imagine, especially psychologically. There was a story where he Gordon unlocked the door to the chicken coop to see if he would escape, and because Sanford was so malnourished, he had lost all of his hair. Because he was so malnourished, he just collapsed at the edge of the property and went back in to the house and collapsed on the sofa, and then he woke up to Gordon pouring boiling water all over his genitals because he knew that he had tried to escape.
00:19:34 So not, not exactly a happy home life for for Sanford here. But, yeah, this goes on for for years. Gordon also would force him to write letters back home to his mother and sister in Canada that would say, you know, Oh, I love it here at the getting raped. I mean, really fun time farm. Um, where all I do is get raped by my I mean, have fun with my uncle and going and the chickens. Well, there are, there are cocks involved, but not in the way that you would think in a chicken farm. Mom. And so he's writing these letters, and they sound a little weird to the sister, who's but
00:20:23 the mom is wildly negligent. She doesn't care, although it was a pretty normal practice in the 20s to send people off to do labor. Sanford was 14 when he got sent. He was there for, I think, two years. She still was like, there was a real lack of curiosity about where he was going, the quality of the people he was with, what he was doing, but the sister, she was on to something, she was worried almost immediately, right?
00:20:48 And she should have been, because, like the he was writing in letters, he was saying, Oh, I'm going to school. But his spelling, you know, even though years would go by, like his spelling, his handwriting, like it still looked like a child's after years of that going on. So after a couple of years of him getting raped, repeatedly abused, tortured and mind, I mean, the way it's described, and the way that it was described to authorities. Obviously, after this was it gets worse, but this and the other things were uncovered. He It was basically like he had been broken. He'd been mentally broken and and just become kind of like a slave to to his uncle, Gordon. At a certain point, it also it became an issue for Gordon, who was into little boys as Sanford began to grow up, and he lost his attraction to Sanford, and so he in order to, I guess, feed his evil appetites, decide to go out elsewhere for that. And one day, he came back to the farm and called Sanford over to the trunk of the car. And he was very excited. His uncle, Gordon was really happy and joking around. He's like, You got to see this. You got to see this. And Sanford, who wasn't used to seeing his uncle in a good mood unless something horrifying was happened, was a little nervous about what was going to be in the trunk of the car, and he looked in the trunk of the car, and sure enough, in the trunk of the car. He should have been worried, because there was a headless Mexican. Oh, well, Mexican head. Close, the severed head of a Mexican, right, right. And later, we would find out that the severed head of the Mexican was because he had tortured and killed a Mexican youth and thrown the headless torso out at the side of the road where it was discovered by a rancher.
00:23:19 Yeah, he actually told his mom about this. He claimed it was some kind of self defense killing. And she was like, I'm, I'm proud of you, son, yeah,
00:23:28 well, that's, that's the best. Well, yeah, best are, you see, we got, it's gallows humor here. We always, we always have to find the what can be funny about this, even though this is horrifying. But, yeah, the the well. And the other funny thing is, in the reporting, they call it, it's the headless Mexican. So that was known as the case of the headless Mexican for a long time. The other thing I found odd, too, in some of the original newspaper reporting about it, they mentioned that it was a Mexican of higher class.
00:24:03 Like, how could they know that was it just
00:24:04 a skin color? Probably, like, no, I really think it was. I think it was like, you know, this is back in the base 1920s in terms of white people racially being based. And so they probably did pull out the, like, the cards and, you know, with the different shades on them, like, oh no. Seriously, yeah, definitely not white. But this is one of them high class, fancy Mexicans that's kind of, you know, slightly white, a little bit like, in fact, because I think he was found,
00:24:29 the body was found nude. So it's not like they were looking at his clothes and they were like, oh, high class Max. It was probably entirely based on skin color.
00:24:36 This might, might even have it here. Oh yeah, here it is. The body was that of a well formed youth, evidently, of higher class of Mexicans. There you go. All right. So the authorities were baffled. They didn't know what to do with this. Oh, another weird thing was, this was not the only headless body. Found in this area in 1928 because I was looking for this story, and I found another one. I was like, What's going on out there? Board people just getting decapitated in 1928 in California. So they don't know what to do with this body. They have no idea. They have no clues. The only clues they had were some footprints, some tire tracks, but, you know, the the forensic evidence wasn't, well, didn't exist really at all back then. They didn't have DNA testing or really anything, and they didn't have any missing reports of a Mexican so they didn't know what to do with the body. And it kind of the case just kind of, you know, went on salt later. This would not be enough, though. This would not be enough for, or actually, we should say, just elaborate a little bit when, when he told his mother, so Sanford thought, Oh, well, this is going to be good because his mother visits and they're having dinner, and he's like, this is going to be good. I can tell the mom that his, you know, the uncle Gordon, in addition to raping me all the time, which apparently she doesn't care about, or or maybe he just didn't want to tell her about, but he's a murderer, and so I can tell her that he's he's murdered someone, and I can get out of this situation where I'm trapped with creepy uncle Gordon, and his hopes were dashed when before he could tell her, he told her, and was like, Yeah, I killed this Mexican boy and out of self defense and I decapitated him. She's like, that's very smart of you always, always decapitate the people you kill in self defense and throw their bodies at the side of the road. That's that way. That'll always work out for you. And so he said. Sanford said in that moment, he realized that the mother would not be an ally, and no matter what he told her, she wouldn't believe it, because she was obsessed with her son. And in a very creepy way, and it would never put guilt on him for anything, which is a shame, because it might have prevented what would happen next.
00:27:14 Oh, man, and this is the story that was in the movie changelings, which was not a good film, and it's filled with misinformation and feminist propaganda, which we'll talk about in a little bit. Ah, this is the murderer. I thought you were gonna pull up a different picture.
00:27:31 Oh, yeah, I was a little slow. I was supposed to be showing these pictures. That's the mom looking like a man again. Good lord, yeah, I'm telling it's I thought like, I was like, There's got, maybe it's a man. It could be a man, because that looks like, that looks like a man, yes. So there's Sanford again, going, oh Aunt, Aunt Louise, oh, boy, oh, poor kid. So here we go. So this is Walter Collins,
00:28:01 yeah, this is Walter Collins. So what happened with Walter Collins is his mother. Let's go back a little bit earlier. Maybe this is, this is his mother. She had to go to work, and so she gave him a dime, or whatever it costs in old times to go see a movie in Los Angeles.
00:28:22 How old? How old was he? Because he was pretty young. So yeah, his mom just threw him a nickel or a dime and just said, All right, go see a movie.
00:28:31 Kid, yes, yeah. And at this point, he is kidnapped, held captive, abused, raped horribly by Gordon Northcott. She does not report this for one week, which has been widely misreported, because I think they wanted to make it seem like like she was highly invested in the disappearance of her child. It wasn't a day, right? She comes up from work. He's gone, yeah,
00:29:02 so what happened was the timeline is the the the ninth or 10th, he leaves, and then she doesn't report it to the authorities for like five days, like the 14th, 15th, she doesn't. So imagine that your nine year old son, you flip him a dime and say, go see a movie, and then, like, three days later, he's not home yet, and you're just like, he'll turn up.
00:29:31 Right, right? I guess we should go back a little bit. So he's held captive. He's abused, raped by by Gordon, and the mother comes for a visit. She knows. And Sanford is like, go to the go to the chicken coop. That's where Gordon is. And she discovers this kid, and she's like, Oh no, because the previous incident, it was the headless Mexican. Nobody's searching for this headless Mexican. She's, she's not particularly concerned about it, but this kid, he's well dressed, he's, you know, from from downtown LA. She's like, someone's gonna miss this kid. So they argue about it, she and Gordon, and then they decide, is
00:30:13 he still alive? At this point, you gotta remember, he's still alive. He's in the chicken he's been tied up. He's been raped and abused for days and and so he's just in there bloody and just like a mess, barely alive. And so Sanford, having told her, thinking like, oh, this, this will finally, this will crack that, that mannish veneer that you know, that maybe there's some kind of woman, womanly instinct inside of her that's going to hate the fact that there's a boy being tortured to death. No, no, not so much.
00:30:45 So her solution to this is that all three of them need to take turns hitting him with an ax until he's dead, so that they share in the culpability, and nobody rats each other out. So that is what they do.
00:30:57 Yeah, again, which makes total sense, right? You find out your son is raping a little boy to death in a chicken coop. Obvious. You know, solution to the problem, let's all kill him with an ax together, of course, naturally. And so that's what they do. They do go to the chicken coop and while he's sitting there, basically, almost incoherent. He's been tortured for days. He's tied up. The three of them line up, and one by one, they hit him with an ax until he is dead. They then, they then reportedly drag his bleedy, bloody body away, and they force Sanford to bury it on the property.
00:31:45 Yeah, let's get back to Christine Collins, because this is the part of the story that if you're familiar with this story, this is the part of Stuart, the story that you'll know. So she was a telephone operator. She's been widely portrayed in media as an upstanding single mom who was doing well on her own, but she was actually a derelict mother married to a criminal who was imprisoned, I think, at Folsom for robbery. And so initially, when she's talking to police, she's like, it's my husband's associates. It's something that has to do with this, which we'll talk about in a moment, but leads to a lot of confounding in the investigation. So what happens during this during this time period is the LAPD, they were dealing with a lot of flack from the media because they were wildly corrupt. They would beat people to extract confessions. They they were detaining people illegally all the time. They were laundering money. You know, it was corrupt. 1920s police stuff, and so they wanted to get a win. I think Devon disagrees a little bit on this. This kid comes forth, should we get to this yet, or should we wait on this? No, we can get to it. Okay, okay. Okay. So this kid comes forth, and he very closely matches the description of Walter Collins. And so the police contact Christine, and they're like, We have found your son in DeKalb, Illinois. And she's like, how did he get to this place in Illinois? So she actually has to pay for the rail ticket to get this kid back to her. There's a big media circus at the train station. He gets off the train, and she does recognize immediately that this is not her son, but pictures are taken, there's a celebration, and everybody seems to believe that it is her son. Now, the records that I evaluated, that I researched, said that there was really no evidence that people thought that this was her son, but you told me that the neighbors believed him to be his son.
00:33:53 So a couple things in the way it's portrayed a lot in, like, True Crime type stuff, it's like, kind of, as you said, that she's this, you know, this very doting single mom and and she really wanted to find her kid and whatever. And I'm not saying she didn't want to find her kid, but she did seem kind of like a little bit, you know, first of all, not reporting your kid missing for days, that's a little stupid. And where do you think he is for a week, right and then. But let's get with the timeline here too. You got to understand the this is months and months later. So the kid went missing. And what was it? May I think it was, let me see here, March, so March 10, he disappears, and in August is when the this other kid shows up. Now we already know, obviously that that he was there. Her son was, was raped and killed. This other kid, you know, to give to make it a little, I guess, fair to the. The police department that a lot of these movies have been made that, like, made them out to be these crazy psychos that just wanted to, you know, hush her up, or whatever. This kid was a runaway, and his mother had died, and so he had, his father had remarried, and he had left the home because he didn't want to live there anymore. And while he was at a diner, someone said, Oh, you look like that, that missing kid. Because at this point, the Collins kid disappearance in LA had become national news, and he was like, Oh, wow, I can I do? And so he got it in his little kid brain that he could get a free trip to Hollywood and meet his his favorite actor, and maybe become famous, if he pretended to be this kid. And so he pretended to be the kid he, you know, wasn't the LAPD didn't like. Go find a kid that looked like him. This kid showed up by approaching the authorities locally in Illinois, and then they reached out to the LAPD, and then they brought him in. And, you know, the other thing is, too, is she does say that she knew immediately that it wasn't him, but there's a lot of photos of her hugging him, and sure you could say those were staged for the press, but it just seems like, why would you pose for those photos? If you were like, This isn't my kid, you know, like, wouldn't you be immediately like, this is not my kid. Well, hey, pose with the photo. Okay. Like, why would you do that? You know? So she, she's posed like, this isn't the only photo. There's several photos of her like, oh my kid. And the kids playing into it, like, he's acting like, Oh mom, yeah. And she gets home and the neighbors think it's the kid. The there's other people who know of the family. I mean, I don't think they had a lot of close connections, because, again, they sound kind of like they were not exactly, you know, upstanding members of society. Her husband was in prison for robbery. She worked all the time, so they were kind of low class. But there were neighbors that were like, no, no, that's your kid. So it's not, it wasn't like, just, you know, they gave some random kid to her and said, This is your kid. But on the on the flip side of that, you know, as you've seen, right? Like you've read other accounts, right? That kind of make it sound that way, yeah.
00:37:18 I mean, I read accounts that she immediately was like, I'm not taking this kid home. And she produced dental records and notes from teachers and other doctors to bring to the LAPD to be like, This is not my child. He also was circumcised, and her child was not circumcised, and he was four inches shorter, right? Even though he was 12, he was three years older, four inches shorter, right?
00:37:41 So it obviously wasn't his kid or kid. And what the police did is they said, well, because she did say that, eventually she did say, well, it's not my kid, and the kids
00:37:52 got Moxie, yeah.
00:37:54 Just, can you imagine that? Just like, no, no, I'm your son. Yeah? Totally, yeah. But the cop said, well, bring him home anyway. Bring and, you know, try him out for a while, yeah, see if he grows on you see if it works out. You know, worst thing happens, you got a kid right now. So she did that for a couple of weeks, for a couple of weeks, and by the end of the couple of weeks, was like, this isn't my kid, as you said, got the dental records, got some teachers and some other people who knew the kid more than just like the random neighbors, right? And went to the cops and said, This is not my kid. You got to take this kid back. Yeah.
00:38:42 Yeah. And the cops were like, No, this is your kid. And they came to believe that she was delusional. Now, the way that this is portrayed in the media is that she knew the entire time this was not her kid, but there is some evidence that she was entertaining delusions that it was her child. And so I think that it's probably true that the police really believed that she was delusional, so they institutionalized her in the LA psychiatric ward, held her involuntarily, and at which point, and this is also portrayed, portrayed falsely in the media, at which point, they decided she wasn't crazy and released her after five days.
00:39:23 Yeah, so how long in the movie is she locked up
00:39:28 12 days, and then she has to undergo electro shock therapy, and then there's a psychiatrist there that tries to force her to sign some kind of exonerating affidavit for the LAPD. None of that happens. And they, they only let her go after there's a media circus and the sun, the sun, the fake sun, admits that he lied about about who he was. But that's not what happened here. Yeah.
00:39:55 What happened was she was put in the in the system. The system, of course, overwhelmed with crazies. As you can imagine, in LA there's going to be a lot of lot of crazy people. And after, I think it was, she was there five nights, she was evaluated and released, because they said, well, she's not crazy, yeah. And around that same time, the the fake boy admitted that, that he was the fake boy. This is the like, I
00:40:24 just wanted to meet this cowboy actor. His name was also not Billy fields. He lied about that too. He lied about that too. Yeah, his name was like Arthur, something.
00:40:35 So, there you go. So that it's that's that's the other thing that I think that, even if, like, let's say so this is, this is Jones. This is the guy that had her locked up. The thing I before I found out that it wasn't even as bad as they were. They were framing it. The thing I was thinking about was, well, first of all, you know, if people have complaints about institutionalizing people against their will because of a situation like this where they could just lock someone up because you're a problem. And that's kind of the way Hollywood is framed it. And I think for the very reason that they they frame it that way in every movie they make about institutions, because they know don't want institutions to come back, because that's when all the crazy Jews start getting institutionalized. And so they, they every movement that you've ever seen about institutions like, you know, like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, or whatever it's. They're all like this, right? It's like, oh, there's, they're just locking up normal people and making them crazy or whatever, yeah. And the reason why that I when I first look at the looked at this, I was like, Well, look, first of all, let's be realistic, anything that you do where you have power like this is going to be abused in certain instances. That doesn't mean you just take away the option to do something, because it's occasionally abused. The other thing is, a kind of would have backfired, because if Jones here, his whole idea was to lock her up to make the problem go away. Well, the problem didn't go away. It got a million times worse for him. And it's, it's very similar to that case that's in the news right now where you've got that, that meme that officer, that they memed him as a Jew and they put like the Star of David on his forehead. Have you seen that story and and so that they locked I don't know all the specifics of the case, because it just happened. I haven't looked into it much, but they arrested someone for basically memeing a police officer as a Jew, and now that meme is everywhere I saw yesterday. There's an ammunition company which who's who follows me. By the way, I was surprised by that. Their official Twitter account there follows me, and they posted that they're selling ammunition with that meme on the packaging for that ammunition, it's
00:43:05 got to be Phoenix ammunition, yeah,
00:43:07 that's what it was. That's what it was. And so you've got, you know, all these people now, because the Streisand effect, right? Barb, you know, Barbara Streisand, a Jew who wanted to shut down a, you know, a cartoon of her as a as, like a robot, or no. What was it? What was the, that's the, that's the South Park episode about it. What was the actual, yeah, what
00:43:35 was the original? Remember? I'll look it up.
00:43:38 Yeah, find out. What the what was the original? It became such a meme I don't remember. Effect originated in 2003
00:43:45 when Barbra Streisand sued photographer, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah for $50 million to remove an aerial photo of her Malibu home.
00:43:52 Okay, that's what it was. And then, like the what happened was the internet spread her that photo that no one would have noticed, right? Because it would have been, like, published in some like, stupid, like, I'm obsessed with celebrities publication, and a handful of spurs would have seen it. But instead, the entire world saw it because they were like, well, what's, what's so good about this photo? And, and a similar thing happened here, where, if he was trying to shut her down, because, oh, she's inconvenient and and look, I don't know, I don't know everything that was going on with the LAPD at that moment. From what I can tell, it looks like they had a lot of bad press, and there was, like, a bad reputation. I mean, the LAPD seems like always have a bad reputation. So why not in 1928 and so if this was like yet another one of these stories, and he was just, he was just he was tired of it. He wanted to shut it down. But the exact opposite happened. She was released, obviously after five nights, and she sued the LAPD, and it became a big story in and of itself, because the some woman's rights advocacy group. Group got involved, and they started publishing all these stories. He ended up getting suspended, you know, so it really had the opposite effect of what they wanted anyway. So that's when I was first, you know, looking at this, and wanted to think about like, well, what is my answer to this? Because there are going to be these instances where people will if we were to reinstitute that, right? If we were to bring back locking people up against their will, because they're they're not cases, yeah, sometimes you'd lock up someone that wasn't really a nut case, because it was the power that wanted to lock them up. But doesn't matter that you think they don't do that already with prisons, doesn't mean we get rid of prisons, you know what? I mean? So it's that sort of a thing that I was thinking about. But then, after reading through the stories, I mean, I'm kind of on the fence, I kind of feel like they might have genuinely thought she was crazy, because she was kind of, you know, sounds like she wasn't like the most with it woman, if she's not reporting her son missing for several days. She gets a little delusional later on, we'll talk a little bit more about that. And you know, there were people telling them, No, this is the this is the boy. The boys telling you that. I mean, think about this. You're a cop, and there's this little boy tell you this. Like, are you going to be like, Oh, he's making it up. Why would you think that? You know, so, like, there's all these circumstances where, if you're just, like, the cops trying to solve, like, genuinely trying to solve the problem, you might think like, oh, you know, this crazy bitch doesn't know what he's talking about. This kid wouldn't make this up. This is that'd be a crazy lie to, you know, to tell and to maintain for so long, but, you know, but in
00:46:44 the movie, wasn't as much photographic evidence back in the day either, right? The passing apparently, was, was very, very good, like, he looked a lot like Walter, right?
00:46:56 And, and so there were lots of people that thought that, no, it's just because you haven't seen him for a few months, and you're kind of a weird lady, so maybe that's what's going on. So that at least, again, I don't know. There's no way to know, but it sounds like to me, Hollywood kind of took advantage of the fact that people hate cops, and, you know, turned it into some crazy story about her being, you know, some, some strong, powerful woman being locked up by an evil man.
00:47:28 That's true. I mean, there, there are a lot of examples of unfair institutionalizations, so, you know. But that that doesn't fly in the face of your argument, because, what did you, what did you say we got to break a few eggs? Yeah, if you're,
00:47:41 if you're gonna make an omelet, you know, you gotta crack a few eggs. And that's just the way it is. It's like, you know, I'm sure if we had the death penalty as liberally applied as I would like it to be, we'd be killing innocent people from time to time. Worth it? Totally worth it. Because the amount of
00:47:59 my female sensibilities,
00:48:01 no, it's because think you're safe. Think of all the people like, is it more offensive that occasionally you electrocute an innocent guy, or is it more offensive that you are often beating to death innocent guys and women and children, because that's what you're, that's that's how you're that's the trade off you're making.
00:48:24 It is game of numbers. My concern about the institutionalization aspect is that if it is truly power within corrupt institutions, they'll just use it as a way to lock up anti Semites. That's why putting people in institutions and killing them needs to be a vigilante job?
00:48:42 No, I think that it's See, here's the problem right now. Obviously you don't want state power when you have a state that opposes you. I wouldn't want that right now. I'd want to take over the country first and then by imposing these kinds of rules, as we did, that's what we had before. That would prevent, or at least slow down the takeover of the country by your enemies.
00:49:07 Because, no, no, I agree. But by the 20s, LA was already chewed up to the hill. So there is an argument to be made there that they were highly incentivized to institutionalize people that were innocent and to imprison them. So I say where you're coming from. I mostly, mostly agree.
00:49:23 Yeah, I just think that we need to guess all the tards. That's all I'm saying. So just, I'm just saying that's the, I think that's the moral, that's the moral view.
00:49:34 So I'm all worried about my, my copyright strike, but I have Devon on. He's gas the retards. It's fine.
00:49:40 Let's just do that. Let's just, can we? Can we get rid of the, by the way, that's becoming more mainstream, the let's get rid of the undesirables. I did that stream Saturday where that was basically the theme is we need to get rid of the undesirables. And just like, Why? Why have institutions when we have perfectly good mass Gra. Waves is essentially the the theme of Saturday. And sure enough, like, literally, a couple days later, we had, I guess, on Monday, we had that Jewish judge let that black guy off because he was too crazy to know that he was killing a white person. And Seattle, yeah, I think, I think that's the one. And then Who's that? That Catholic that works for Ben Shapiro? Matt Walsh, yeah. Matt Walsh tweets out that we need to just start euthanizing those kinds of people. And I'm like, yeah. Finally, it's getting more mainstream. It's it's spreading out and
00:50:42 let out of the institution. I think in that article that I read about, it said that for the for the immediate future, he'll be institutionalized. It's like he killed somebody. I think he killed an Asian woman.
00:50:54 Yeah, well, I mean, there's so many cases like that, that where they don't have, I mean, they get institutionalized, and then they get the problem is, then they say they're cured. You know, like we covered a case on Saturday where this guy thought he had cameras in his eyeballs and that people were talking to him via radio. And look, this might all be true. I don't care if it is. In fact, it's he needs to go, especially if this is true. But then he executes some people on the freeway. He gets institutionalized. They put him on medicine, and he says, Oh yeah, well, the voices are gone now. And so the judge let him out, and he's, he's, well, I mean, this was from the 90s or so, so I don't know if he's still around, but he was, as far as I know, just able to walk free after shooting some guy in the head twice.
00:51:44 And it's incumbent on him to take his medication, and he obviously doesn't have the faculties to do that, so even if his medication cures him, he still has to be institutionalized, at a minimum, for life. He really should just be put out of his misery.
00:51:57 Well, yeah, there's no like, what's what's the upside, what's the upshot of keeping them in an institutional like, even, let's say, the medicine fixes him, or whatever. What you know, makes him not hear voices or think that there's no cameras in his eyeballs. What is the benefit to you? Why are you paying for that? Why are you paying to store that guy, put him on ice somewhere, like in some room or with a bunch of coloring books? And you know, like, there's literally no Upshot for me. There's no Upshot for you. There's no Upshot for him, you know. So let's just get rid of him, you know, that's all I'm saying. Let's just
00:52:29 Okay, okay, I can get on board with that.
00:52:31 Like, there's no reason to keep him now. Like, why have a crazy person storage facility and like, you store things that you're gonna need later, and we're never gonna need that guy later, like
00:52:43 the appeals process and death row as well. I mean, people are on death row for like, oh, yeah, 30 years appealing. The appeals process is more expensive, and death row is more expensive than life imprisonment.
00:52:56 Did you know that? Yeah, no, and we'll get into that too here in a minute. Because, that's a, that's a recent change, yeah. So, yeah, we so that was, that's the case that was popularized with the changeling, with Angelina Jolie, and that's, that's what a lot of people will focus on when they talk about this case. But unfortunately, the case didn't even stop there. So while that's all going on, meanwhile,
00:53:27 Sanford assists in the kidnapping of these brothers, Lewis and Nelson Winslow, age 12 and 10. They're walking home from a model Yacht Club, and they pull up and they see Gordon and Sanford is in the car. And Sanford apparently looked younger than he actually was. He was 15 by this time, but he probably looked like he was about 12. So they felt safe getting into the car, because he was like, I'm going to show you some chickens. And so they got in the car, and then they are imprisoned, raped for 10 days, tortured, and then Northcott Gordon murders him with an ax, and forces, and forces Sanford, I think, to finish the job. And then they bury the bodies in the properties, right?
00:54:16 And they came from a a much wealthier family, so they immediately, there was a lot of flyers that were put up. There was a reward that was put out. And this made, made, made Gordon nervous, and so he started writing letters to sort of in the same way that he was forcing Sanford to write letters to his mother claiming, like, Oh yeah, I'm having a great time at the chicken farm.
00:54:48 Really ridiculous claims. They said that he said that they were going to go to Mexico to find gold or to find fame. Like, really outlandish, very, very. Strange claims, right?
00:55:01 So it never, you know, the parents never thought that these were real letters. They were just like, What the fuck. But they kept getting these, these weird, bizarre letters. But unfortunately, you know, they had been they'd also been killed with an ax and buried on the property. Now this, this happened around May of 1928 now, in August of 1928 sans for Sanford's sister decided that she was going to go down and check out. Also, manly, yeah, also, kind of looks a little bit like a man. Maybe it's that family just has really bad genes. Just really, it's terrible, terrible. That haircut is not doing her any favors.
00:55:50 What can you do with a face like that, though? I mean, what
00:55:52 do you do? Well, not that. I mean, not have, like, have like, a Lego helmet on. I mean, what the hell is
00:56:00 that kind of offsets her strange lower facial features a little bit that
00:56:04 just makes her head look like a bullet. I just, I don't like that. I don't like it. There's something. It's like, uncanny valley. It's like, I can't,
00:56:15 yeah, she doesn't look real to me. Too bad, because she's the only hero of the story. Yeah. Yeah. She, she, like,
00:56:24 with a face like that. That's the only pearl necklace she's ever gonna be wearing.
00:56:30 Ah, like, I'm I'm listening to JS stream again. Oh, good lord. She becomes suspicious when she's reading Sam, when she's reading her brother's letters. She's like, this doesn't sound like him. And so she decides to take it upon herself to pay her railway and take a several day trip to the chicken coop. So she goes immediately, creeped out. She doesn't like the way she's being treated. Do they not know their cousin at all?
00:56:59 I mean, it kind of sounds like it. I mean, this was, this is the mother? Was the Was this the sister of the manly looking woman? Or is it like, how are they related to the father of the mother? I couldn't. Nothing. Said, nothing that I pretty sure they're related to the mother. Okay, so this might be the, if the if it's the mother's sister. The mother is a psycho. Obviously, she's helping her son kill little boys with an ax and and bury them. She's dressing her kid up like, you know, like a woman and stuff. So if this is like, her sister crazy runs in the family, so maybe she just doesn't care, you know, yeah,
00:57:35 and at that time, Sanford tells her about the abuse, he tells her about the murders as well, and so she gets the hell out of there. She tells immigration about her brother, because he's Canadian, and then the LAPD, at this point in time, is notified, right?
00:57:53 So the her brother had been in the country illegally, so she thought like a good way to force the government to do because this is back, apparently, when they cared about illegal immigrants. So, so she know you're from Canada, get out. Yeah, you're white, get the fuck so they, they notified the LAPD, and by August 31 which I guess is another contention, right? They, they, there's, that's the mom
00:58:25 again, with the with a fucking it looks like a circus freak, like ornament, yeah,
00:58:29 that's a man. Yeah, there's no way that's not a man. I mean, that looks like a serial killer man, you know. Like, come on, guys, how is that not a man, but it's who knows? Well, she is a serial killer. Yeah. So anyway, so they immigration officers go to check out the chicken farm, the so called chicken farm. And while they're you know when they show up, Gordon tells Sanford, stall them. I need to get away. And so Sanford stalls them for about two hours while Gordon runs away and hides in the tree line. After he Sanford is sure that Gordon is missing. He says, Well, I'll tell you everything if you promise to protect me. And they're like, What are you talking about? And that's when he lets them know we've been raping and killing kids here, and my uncle, Gordon is just ran away and actually ran off to Canada with his crazy man like mom. So that's what happened. The the mother and the son both flee to Canada, and they are arrested in Canada in. I believe. Let's see here in September, they're arrested in British Columbia around September 20, and they are brought back to trial, and they start to check out the farm. They excavate the area, and they don't find because what they did is they would, they dug up the bodies and they smashed them up, they burned them up, and they smashed them up again, and they kind of spread the ashes all over the place. They were able to find like identify. I mean, they found bones. They found bone fragments. They found a lot
01:00:44 of evidence, but they couldn't identify any of the any of the children. So what they found was blood state axes when covered in various human hair. They found blood soaked mattresses. They found 51 body parts from male children, all bone fragments. So they found ankles, fingers, things like that. No skulls. They found the rifle. And then they found items linked to the victims, which is how they were able to do most of the identifying. It was Boy Scout badges, letters, whistles and that. That's parents mostly had to identify the clothing of the children.
01:01:21 Or, as you said, what do they do in the movie? Yeah,
01:01:24 and in the movie and changelings, it's like the kid starts digging, and it's like a little pile of shoes. I was like, Huh? They did the thing. They did it the pile
01:01:35 of shoes. Always with the pile of shoes. Yep. So there's Sanford, who is cooperating with the authorities and tells them everything that they want to know. Here's the farm. Here's some of the clothing that they found. There's more the clothing they found. That's the mother Louise getting booked again, like, a man, I mean, like, she's even big, like, tall too, yeah, yeah, look at that. I mean, maybe not, like, super tall, but like, that's, that's a big bitch, yep. I mean, look at that face, right? There's, it's anyway,
01:02:24 I'd kill kids too if I looked like that.
01:02:27 Yeah. So she goes to, I mean, basically what happens is, let's see here January to February, Northcott gets there's a trial that goes on for 27 days. They they find him guilty of all the crimes related to the murders and everything except for one, the mother pleads guilty to the was the Collins kid that she
01:03:00 Yes, yeah, she said that she was responsible for that, yeah.
01:03:05 And they sentence Northcott, or Gordon. Northcott to
01:03:12 die by hanging they put him in solitary confinement first, and then, like immediate, it was like two weeks of solitary confinement, then they hang on. They used to get down to business back then. Look at that crazy bastard. That's the face of a serial killer right there.
01:03:27 That's him on his way to San Quentin, I think, yeah, that's, and that's, he's. And all these photos, there he is in court. In all these photos, he just looks like, like, exactly who you what you think he would look like. You're like, what were
01:03:40 they calling him in the newspapers, the old ape boy.
01:03:46 They called him the ape boy because he acted like an ape, which is kind of funny. There's the Colin. It's Christine Collins. There is, again, looking like a psycho. There's his mother. There he is. So anyway, there is a, I thought it really good, play by play, written at the on the day that he was executed, written in one of the, I think it was the San Francisco Chronicle, written about how the execution went down. And it's interesting because in in the last days, and you'll hear some of this when he's being executed, Christine Collins, as you know, we kind of alluded to her being maybe a little bit delusional. She refused to believe that he had killed her son this whole time. She thought that he was still alive and that he had escaped, and that, you know, Gordon would tell her what really happened, because she would, she refused to believe that he was killed, and so he, she would go and visit him on death well, not death row. Didn't really have death row back then, but. Yeah, they
01:05:01 didn't even have death row there. You're just waiting to be executed imminently,
01:05:04 and, like, regular holding cell, yeah, literally within a month. Like, you're, you're executed. And so you got to free up space, right? So they but she's visiting him in prison, and he's, like, jerking around and like, kind of telling stories, like, oh yeah, maybe he's alive and and leading her on and basically mentally torturing her, the mother of the two boys, also, because Gordon was a big liar. Gordon would confess to like, 10 murders and then then the next day, so there was zero. And he was always hinting that maybe one of those, the two boys they had killed, one of them had escaped. I forget which one. I think the younger one, he said, actually got away. And so the other mother is also visiting him in prison, saying, like, what? Where is he? You know, where's the, where's the the one that got away. And then he would just act like a complete asshole. He started saying his dad did the murders that his mom did, the murders that Sanford did the murders, and he was just like all over the place, while at the same time, always hamming it up for the cameras and and trying to be like a star. He was enjoying the notoriety that he was getting out of it, and then he tried to fake us do a fake suicide attempt right before they hung him. But anyway, this is I thought it'd be fun to listen to it. I did an AI voice over for the actual article written the day that he was executed. So let's have a little Listen here,
01:06:43 melodramatic to the last and with a final confession branding his own father a murderer. Gordon Stuart Northcott played out the closing act of his sordid tragedy of life at San Quentin yesterday. 30 minutes before he went to death, he staged a melodramatic suicide attempt while Warden Holohan talked with him in the death cell, the attempt failed, and with blustering nonchalance, the condemned youth called for two soft boiled eggs, which he ate with apparent relish. He broke at the final moment, you would
01:07:15 think he'd be tired of eggs. He had a chicken farm.
01:07:19 That's what He wants for his last meals, 10,000 eggs.
01:07:23 You can't think of anything else. I guess maybe it reminded him of rape. So that you know that made maybe that's why I did it. Laughing. This is horrible. Every bite I'm just I'm taken back to the good old rapey days,
01:07:39 sapped of his last ounce of bravado by the hovering shadow of death, he went whimpering into eternity at 1021, o'clock, the Riverside chicken ranch Slayer collapsed as the death march began, and had to be fortified with a stimulant for the ordeal, blindfolded
01:07:55 he they'll get more. They gave a meth so that he would be aware when he got hanged. That's awesome.
01:08:01 Yeah, no, they, well, I don't know if it's met specifically, but it was narcotics. They, they because he kept, like, collapsing. And they'll get more into that here in a minute, because this the article, like, kind of summarize it, and then it goes into detail. But the but, yeah, they did, because they were like, no, no, you're gonna fucking be awake for this shit. So they slipped him something.
01:08:22 He was supported up the fatal 13 steps to the noose by six stalwart guards who held him on the gallows trap. The trap was sprung at 1009 o'clock, official time, 12 minutes later, Dr LEO I Stanley, prison physician, pronounced him dead. His neck was broken. Dr Stanley said, while this swift drama of fate unfolded in the large, bare room above the prison shops, the two white faced mothers, whose hearts have been torn asunder by the eight boys' brutal passions sat tight lipped within the strong gray walls waiting the final curtain of the grim tragedy. They were Mrs. Nelson Winslow of Pomona and Mrs. Christine Collins of Los Angeles, mothers of three of northcott's victims to the last hour, almost the young murderer tortured their mother's hearts with the false hope that he would relent and tell them where the bodies of their children lie. He never did. Mrs. Collins believes her son, Walter, nine, still lives less than 100 yards away, a third broken woman, northcott's own mother, Mrs. Sarah Louis woman,
01:09:27 are we sure about that? Look
01:09:28 at that profile that's even worse, with it all blacked out,
01:09:33 Louise Northcott serving a life sentence for complicity in his crimes and upon whose failing shoulders he sought to place the entire blame likewise, awaited news of her son's death. Told at noon by matron Josephine Jackson that her son had been executed. Mrs. Northcott collapsed. She was carried sobbing to her cell in the women's wing of the prison. Up to the moment of his break, Northcott clung noisily to the braggadocio role he assumed upon. His arrest more than a year ago, his last hour was a series of conflicting confessions and Dramatics and efforts to shift the blame of his quadruple murder to others. His last confession handed to Warden Holohan five minutes before he died, accused his father, Cyrus G Northcott of slaying one of the four youth. Yeah, that's the dude.
01:10:21 That's the dad. Family has the worst genetics. They all have terrible physiognomy. They look dysgenic as hell.
01:10:28 Oh, like I said, the behavior is genetic. These are there. There are warning signs everywhere that these, these people should never breed. Yeah, see the all of a sudden, the the giant pit full of burning crazy people, sounds better by the second,
01:10:45 doesn't it, youthful victim, Northcott senior, a small, haggard man in somber gray haunted the prison yard until the hour of execution, then left returning immediately afterward, he emphatically denied the Young murderer's charge. Gordon was insane and did not know what he was doing. He said the suicide attempt hoax took place in the death cell a half hour before the execution, boasting to Warden Holohan that he would still beat the game. He walked down the cell and turned with a melodramatic flourish, I've done it, warden. I've done it. He boasted loudly and dashed a tiny glass vial upon the death cell floor. Holohan took no chances of Northcott making good his threat to cheat the noose. Dr Stanley and Dr F e Garfinkel, his assistant, were immediately summoned. They pumped out the stomach of the condemned man, but did not analyze the contents yesterday.
01:11:39 Yeah, so they they pumped his stomach just to make sure he didn't commit suicide. They're like, No bitch, you're gonna hang, yeah, hang one way or
01:11:46 another. We used to have the stomach for
01:11:48 these things, yeah? See, this is we used to have balls of steel, yeah. And so when people like, why can't we be like the old days? Well, you got to start being this is why? Yeah, in fact. Well, I'll talk more about that in a second.
01:12:02 No trace of a deadly draft was found in the small vial. They said. Holohan is convinced the suicide attempt was faked, where Northcott obtained the small glass tube, which was less than an inch long and no larger than a lead pencil hollow hand. Did not know Northcott had secreted it about his person, the
01:12:20 warden said that means it was in his ass with words back secreted it from his person,
01:12:32 but he had been thoroughly searched by the guards who had dressed him from the skin out when they took him to the death cell. Tuesday afternoon, Northcott awoke at four o'clock yesterday morning after a fitful night, following his night interview with Mrs. Collins and Mrs. Winslow, he threw himself upon the three mattresses that comprised his bed and slept his guards reported from four to seven o'clock, he roved about his cell, wrote a letter, and looked from his window as the golden California sunshine burst over the prison at seven, he asked for his spiritual adviser, Harry Nugent, Los Angeles revivalist. He repeated his declaration of innocence and prayed with Nugent. At 830 he asked for Warden, Holohan. The warden remained with him an hour, listening to his swiftly changing stories and accusations. He gave Holohan a number of letters scrawled on prison paper and the fly leaves of a Bible. By 930 the 140 guests who attended the execution were waiting inside the inner wall to be conducted to the gallows room. Shortly before 10 o'clock, the solemn procession started by heavily armed guards started across the garden beautiful and down the runway to the Red Brick shop building on the third floor of which is the execution chamber. We need
01:13:49 a gallows room. Yeah, totally. We need more gallows rooms.
01:13:54 Talking about this on the stream was this last week, where the visible execution is meaningful for public morale, right? None of this lethal injection shit, Gallows like that. I mean, gala room, I like,
01:14:07 well, even this, like this, it was too private for me. I mean, 140 people came. Wouldn't you show up? Few if you got an invite to the Gordon norcott's hanging? Would you show up? Hell, yeah. See, I'm telling you, we should pay per view this shit. It would make so much money pay for gallows rooms all over the place.
01:14:29 The prison was silent as a tomb. Apart from the slow moving procession, there was not a man in sight. All prisoners, with the exception of those employed outside the walls and in the stock mill, had been herded to the stockade at 840, o'clock to be held under heavy guard until after the hanging Warden Holohan was determined to have no cat calls and hissing from the inmates, such as occurred at the execution of William Hickman two years ago,
01:14:54 of course, good old William. I actually never looked up who William Hickman was. I was kind of curious, like, what did he do? I. Yeah, look up 1928 William, because he would have been hung in or did he say, two years ago,
01:15:11 occurred at the execution of William Hickman. Two years ago, 1926
01:15:16 he murdered a little girl. Well,
01:15:20 then what? I guess it's more civilized to not have the cat calls. But I mean, I kind of like the cat calls, wouldn't you, wouldn't you? Rather them Why have to walk by like a lot of procession of prisoners. They're like, Oh, you're gonna die, bitch. Oh, you don't know. I don't know. I don't care if it's a little undignified. I kind of like it quietly the
01:15:41 witnesses filed into the execution chamber and waited tense faced behind the double doors at the foot of the gallows stairs, Northcott was being prepared for the last act of his sordid tragedy, fearing he would break Warden Holohan took a long black board to which he was to be strapped in case of Emergency.
01:16:00 So they they had, they got this big board. If he kept collapsing and they couldn't hold him up, they were gonna just hang him while he was strapped to a board.
01:16:10 They were really into this. They're like, this is gonna happen. You're not gonna stop it.
01:16:13 You're not gonna you're not gonna drink your little ass poison that you came up with. You know, you're not gonna get out of this. We're gonna drug you up make sure the only thing they did give him the blindfold.
01:16:27 Northcott gasped. It wasn't a blindfold, please, he whispered hollowly. Nugent bound a white handkerchief across his eyes. It was fucking Nugent. It was the first time in the history of San Quentin, a man has been blindfolded at execution. Please, don't please. God is with you. Gordon came the deep tones of Nugent the revivalist. Say a prayer for him. Out Loud. Mr. Nugent, the warden, urged, say a prayer for me. Please, let not your heart be troubled. The revivalist chanted from the 14th chapter of St John, yeah, the death march began. Oh, don't do it. Please don't do it. Northcott broke suddenly wilting in the arms of the guards, a stimulant was hastily administered. Warden Holohan said it was whiskey. One of the guards was overheard to say, we had to snow him up. Snow is vernacular for narcotics.
01:17:25 They had to snow him up a bit. So, yeah, it could have been like a meth, methamphetamine, but they, they, they basically gave him narcotics so he'd stay awake for it.
01:17:36 The double doors swam open. Nugent chanting his Bible verse led the way as northcott's feet struck, the first of the fatal 13 steps, he stumbled with six guards gripping his wilted body, he was hurried up the steps. Oh, don't do it, please. Oh, God, the eyes of the 140 spectators were stony hard. There was no sympathy for Northcott in a single face,
01:18:01 and that is why they had nice things. Yeah, you have to have those stony looks and zero sympathy.
01:18:11 In my Father's house, are many mansions droned the preacher's voice, the rope's too tight. Oh, God, please don't the hangman's arms flashed up behind the dull wood screen, three convicts slashed with their knives. One of them cut the slender cord that held Gordon Stewart Northcott to this earth. The trap flashed back. Was caught by two black steel spring brackets and held fast
01:18:35 wait they had
01:18:36 Northcott. Yeah,
01:18:39 that is awesome.
01:18:41 Yeah, that way, you know, no one had to feel like that they were, they'd killed someone or something, I guess. But, yeah, that probably be a job. It'd be easy to get volunteers for, you know, a prison, Hey, who wants to cut the rope that kills the boy rapist?
01:18:56 Yeah, well, I mean, also that they had probably already killed before, so they're like, you're going to hell. Anyway, everybody was religious, so just, just kill this guy. It's fine. You'll get some free time. You'll get some yard time.
01:19:08 And Gordon Stewart Northcott hung at the end of a hempen rope, his black death cap tilted at a rakish angle. A guard sprang forward and held his body still the
01:19:19 Now, the reason he had to do that, they don't really say this in so in so many words in the article, is it kind of is described as a botched execution. I call it a successful execution because he's dead, right? So clearly it worked, but it didn't kill him instantly. He actually sat there jiggling around for about 12 minutes until he finally died of suffocation. And so that's why the guards reached out and held him still, because they're fucking based.
01:19:50 I was reading about this and it somebody was like, yeah, they 13 minutes of hanging, and then finally he had to be killed through strangulation. And in my mind. Mind they're pulling him down, and then they're just strangling him manually.
01:20:05 That's not what happened. No, they're holding his body down, making sure you
01:20:08 Yeah, the cords of his hands stood out. Warden turns gray and still the eyes of the 140 witnesses were stony hard. Warden Holohan, standing within the roped enclosure about the gallows turned suddenly ashen gray. His face was deeply lined. Dr Stanley stepped forward with professional air and mounted a three step ladder. He ripped open Northcott shirt and placed a stethoscope against his heart. Dr Garfinkel stepped forward and took his pulse, watch in hand, a murmur of voices, hard unsympathetic rippled over the watchers,
01:20:45 hard unsympathetic. You guys noticing a theme here, steely eyes, hard unsympathetic as they watched him die for 12 minutes, 12 minutes of just steely eyed gaze. That's what people need to be prepared to do while Dr Garfinkel is like he's dead guys, we got another dead boy.
01:21:06 Watches ticked suddenly like clocks on a Sunday afternoon. Dr Garfinkel looked at Warden Holohan and nodded. Dr Stanley stepped down from the ladder. The trap was sprung at 1009, he died at 1021 the warden said, the big black iron door clanged open, and the 140 men who had witnessed the eight boy pay the price for his brutal murders filed slowly from the room the eight boy, eight boy, good old eight boy, out through the printing shop. They went past the plain, black box with its funereal cover, slow and black handles that held northcott's body down the 75 steps from the shops and into the clean sunshine as they passed condemned row, nine pairs of burning eyes flamed at them from the narrow slits in the steel cell doors
01:21:58 that was, see it's called, it was called condemned row, which is even better and more base than death row, by the way. Yeah, those the guys, just by the way, they're not in there for 40 fucking years. They're, they're, they're, like, knowing they're gonna be there next weekend.
01:22:10 Yeah, yeah, four men awaiting death as those cells, but not one of them was the cold blooded murderer. Northcott was, according to Warden Holohan, Northcott was the worst man I ever saw. The haggard faced warden said he lied from start to finish. He tried to make things as hard for everybody as he could in the prison yard, the Slayer's drooping father watched the witnesses file from the inner gate. That melting procession told him his son was dead. Gordon never had a square deal. The father declared, told of his son's last minute accusation of himself. The little man went pale,
01:22:50 yeah, he's like Gordon never had a square deal. Well, he said, You killed the boys.
01:22:53 What? Then his face flamed angrily. He left the prison immediately, not waiting for the undertaker to assume charge of his son's body. The body was given over to the exclusive custody of the Father. Warden Holohan said there was no autopsy. According to the warden, the ape boy had expressly forbidden it, and Northcott senior announced his wishes would be carried out. The Father declined to say when or where the funeral would be held, but it was said at the prison, the simple rites were conducted by the Burt curry undertaking company in Richmond, with cremation yesterday afternoon in warden holohan's home. Mrs. Collins and Mrs. Winslow, who had hoped to learn the place their children are buried, awaited northcott's final word. Mrs. Winslow, a frail little woman kept running to the big window and looking the prison shop building where the execution was taking place. She could only guess at the stark drama being enacted there. I know my sons are dead. She sighed wearily. I never hope to see them again. Mrs. Collins steadfastly refused to believe her son is dead. When the final word from Northcott was taken to her with no definite statement of her son's whereabouts, her face lighted up with hope. Northcott's stories have so varied. I can't believe him. She cried. I still have hopes. If I can get any definite proof my son is gone, I would be reconciled to his loss. He has been gone so long now, but until his body is found, I'll cling to hope. Officials have no expectations. Hope will ever be answered. Northcott, they are convinced killed her son, but where he hid the little body is a secret he carried through the gallows trap with him,
01:24:38 and that's the that's the article, but that's also kind of shows you that she's a little unstable. Like, Oh no, he's still alive. It's like,
01:24:45 Yeah, I'm sympathetic to that position, though. You want to hold out hope. You know, I've spent so much time listening to true crime and watching true crime when somebody goes missing, families hold out hope. Always, they always hold out because it's just easier than facing the reality. Get the situation that you're
01:25:01 in, yeah, I guess. But so here's my thing, though, with that, I feel like people always do this, well, you don't know. You've never had to suffer the loss of a child, you wouldn't understand. And it's like, I I'm not an idiot. I can kind of, I mean, sure, I'll never understand, just like, I'll never know what it's like to be black. You know, it's like, I get it right, but I can kind of imagine, and like, I remember, so like, actually, this the other day, someone, someone tweeted out a a video of those little dolls. They're like, they're like, fake babies they give that they sell. And the now, there's a lot of pedophiles buying those fake babies. But one of the the stated purpose of these fake babies, these hyper realistic baby dolls, is that, oh no, it's good for like, when, when a mother loses her baby, she gets the fake baby and carries it around like a psycho. How could
01:25:53 that possibly be good for her? Right?
01:25:55 And I'm like, what? Anyway, someone posted the video, and they said, Well, I don't want to judge people that use it for that purpose, and I'm like, no, no, no, judge them. That's the problem. Like, if you have some woman dragging a stuffed baby around because her baby's dead, there's something horribly wrong with that person. That's not like, that's okay to judge. You can judge that. You know, just because bad things happen to people doesn't mean you can't judge them. Which will which we'll get into in a moment, too, when it comes to Sanford. So what happened with the you know that obviously Gordon was hung until Dad? What happened with his mother was, oops, that's not the right one. Where is it's kind of funny. The mother is, where is she? There's there she is. She was given life in prison. And the reason, only reason why they gave her life in prison is they didn't give women the death penalty, and they put Sanford into a like a reform school, right? But for, for like, less than two years, yeah. So even though he admitted to killing one of the boys with an ax, he killed two
01:27:13 of the boys, yeah, probably, yeah.
01:27:15 So the whole, the whole, but the whole thing was, it was the same argument, well, you don't know what it's like. He would. Don't blame the victims. You don't know what it was like to be raped by your uncle repeatedly with a broomstick. And it's like, yeah, I thank God, I don't. But also that doesn't that's not like, just like a free pass to do whatever the fuck you want. You don't get to, Oh, you were raped in the ass with a broomstick. Well, then then murder all the kids you want. You know you were forced to do it and
01:27:40 but that's how they treat 15. He wasn't he wasn't seven, right? He was 15. He was 14 when he went to the farm that is adult enough for him to not have assisted in in putting other boys that are much younger than he is, half his age, in his place. And from certain accounts, you know, he could hear the rapings and the murderings, and he talked a little bit to the police officer about how a lot of it was just relief that it wasn't him. It's like, there's a there's a time where you have to in your life. Well, hopefully none of us come to this, come to this situation, or situation like this, where you have to just be like, I would rather die than do something like that. Well, and you would
01:28:21 think that, if anything, he would be able to relate to the agony they were going through, and that, you know, better than anyone else, and he should be able to be motivated to stop it because of that, like, oh, I don't want the thing that happened to me to happen to this other person, not thank God, it's them and not me, right?
01:28:37 So guess what he was allowed to do. He was allowed to grow up, get married, and then he adopted two sons, right?
01:28:46 So it's, it's just kind of like, what are we even doing here? Yeah, this guy was, you know, sure, obviously, he went through a lot, but so do most people, you know, maybe not to that extreme. Maybe that's on the extreme end. But I think because of the same, you know, mindset of any Well, you don't know what it's like. You know it's like to lose a kid. You can carry a dead baby around, and it's fine. It's like, Nah, it's it's not though, actually. And we can judge people that suffer horrible experiences, and so that, anyway, there you had that going on. The other thing is, there was, let's see here, here we go. I like how they reported this torture suspect lived like a girl. Alleged Coast fiend played with dolls, and that was about Gordon. So the headline is talking about how the, you know, the murderous Gordon, how that was a psychotic thing to do as a little boy, to be playing with dolls and to dress like a girl, and that, you know, obviously, might have explained some of the behavior. And so you had this, you. Uh, article where, let's see here. Oh, that's, this isn't the same article, but we'll get to that in a second. Talk about how he was raised by his mother like a girl, and had, you know, made to wear dresses until he was a teenager, and this sort of a thing, and that was recognized as an actual sign that something horrible was going to happen in that guy's future. And again, this is something that kind of gets whitewashed. They don't really talk about this aspect of the case very much in the modern tellings of this. So there's that. The other thing that's interesting is, in addition to the mom not having to get the death penalty because she's a woman, there also were no women allowed to serve on the jury because they thought the case was too extreme for women.
01:30:56 I mean, it was gruesome, but, you know, there were, there were a lot of concessions made, made to women not having to do jury duty in a trial like this. Thanks. Thank you a lot. And then the mom didn't get the death penalty, although she certainly deserved it, right?
01:31:14 Well, and she was, she was paroled after only 12 years. So she didn't do life in prison. She was out in 12 years. She got out in 1940 and died shortly after, died in late 1944 but just the idea that, you know, she was allowed to be a burden on the rest of the people of California, financially and otherwise, for, you know, 12 years. I mean, why? Why did we need her? Yeah, we should have just gotten rid of her. The other thing is the execution timeline. We've talked about that a little bit. You're talking about how there are people that have committed, they committed, like, triple homicides in the 90s, and they're still fighting in the courts and in California, in fact, we, well, we covered that one case on the insomnia stream a couple of weeks back of the Indian guy that killed a cop, and now he's now, he's loose. He's out in San Francisco. But part of the reason why his court battle went on for so long in California. Now, if you commit murder and you get, well, now no one's getting, no one's getting the fucking death penalty in California. But I think beginning the 1990s they, or it might have been even the 80s, late 80s, they changed it to where it automatically appeals. So if you get the death penalty, it automatically starts this, like decades long appeals process. So, like, whether you want it to or not, like, it's that they, they do it because, well, Jews really made sure that legislation was passed, and so none of these people get executed. Like, I don't think California's executed anyone since, like, 2006 it's been that long? Yeah, I think so it's in California. It's been a long time. And that's not that there haven't been people sentenced to death, you know, although I don't think that. I think these days, there's probably not a lot of people in California getting sentenced to death. So do you look up the California thing? Which one the last time someone was, oh, that's, that's we don't, it's not a big deal. But, I mean, I want to know. I thought six, you're right, there you go see so Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, for 20 years they haven't executed. And, like it's California, like, if anyone needs killing, you know, it's people in California, you know, so they haven't killed anyone in fucking 20 years. And it's just bizarre. The other thing I found here was the, you know, talking about, you know, the genetic aspect of things. Oh, no, this isn't what I thought it was. But this, so this one thing we didn't mention, what the reason why, the another reason they moved to California was Gordon got into trouble in Canada for molesting a boy in 1925 right?
01:34:22 And the parents, for sure, knew about this. He was he was much older. He was an older teenager, and he became sexually obsessed with this kid, who I think was like 11 or so, hanging out with him all the time. The parents weren't asking any questions about this age gap. He was raping this kid all the time, but also it sounded like it he was in love with him, and the parents were just not asking any questions. Eventually, it was found out, and they were like, We need to skip town. And that's when they moved to LA, right?
01:34:53 So this in the article, it says the North, the North cuts who had amassed enough money. Are from their Canadian farm to establish themselves in new California by another Canadian family, the Scotts, in the summer of 1925 Stuart Gordon northcott's predilections first brought himself and his family into trouble. Northcott was arrested on a complaint sworn to by the parents of Philip Scott 10. He was 10. It looks like Stuart Northcott escaped serious difficulty this time because the law concluded there was not enough behind the charges to prosecute. Evidently, Gordon Northcott and his mother became frightened because the mother was protecting him, and they persuaded the gray haired father, who they always portrays like this useless schmuck to pay out cash and buy a chicken farm for the Son. Quote, instead of, instead of getting better, the father said things got worse. So that
01:35:53 was what did they expect of him? Why else would he want to have this remote farm with Yeah, I mean, it wasn't for the money, it wasn't a highly profitable venture. It's a disgusting job.
01:36:05 Yeah, let's build you this, this like rape dungeon right in the middle of the desert, so that you stop raping little boys. Yeah? So, so there's that, that aspect to it, and then, yeah, I mean, that's, that's, I mean, is there something you wanted to add that's pretty
01:36:24 well, I was gonna do this, this whole spiel about outlaws taking down the LAPD, but that's not at all what happened. What changes the entire trajectory of my analysis, and really questions the theme of the show. They actually didn't get anything done. LA, I think the chief resigned for or he was on administrative leave or something for a few months. Nothing really happened. Sweeping reforms to the LAPD didn't even happen until the 50s. Um, also, she sued for, did we talk about this? I don't think so. Yeah. Christine Collins, yeah. Christine Collins sued for $50,000 she got $10,000 they never paid her out. It would be about $340,000 today, but I think that there is more legitimacy to the claims than people want to admit that she was, in fact, insane. Fine.
01:37:22 I mean, I mean, maybe not like she should have been locked up, right, but, but I'm just, I'm not saying that like she was insane enough to lock up. I don't think she should have been locked up, but I'm saying, from the cops perspective, I could see why they would have because you have the boy going, saying, No, I'm her son, and you've got, like, you've got the neighbors saying, No, that's her son, and she's kind of weird, and has this, you know, criminal husband that's in prison, and she didn't report the kid missing for a while, and she took the kid home, even if she was initially reluctant. And we don't know 100% the facts of that. So, I mean, you could see a situation where the guy the cops are just like this crazy bitch, you know, just, you know, let's just get rid of her.
01:38:10 But, and in changelings, they talking about section 12, which is the police code that allows you to be committed without a warrant. And in that movie, it's all hookers and stuff. And I'm kind of like, Yeah, sounds fine to me,
01:38:28 yeah, no, it's it's one of these things where, you know, if someone commits a crime that is unrelated, that I can't you, because there are some crimes when people commit crimes where I think a reasonable person can relate to it on some level, even if they've never been put like, in a situation where they might not even do that, you know, morally, they might disagree with the what happened, but they can understand how maybe a weaker person, or, you know, someone who's not, you know, maybe someone who's salvageable, might have still done something like, right? Like, not a big deal. But then there's these crimes where they're so obscene that no reasonable person, under any circumstances would have ever committed those crimes. And I feel like regardless of severity in those instances, those people should be removed permanently from the gene pool. Absolutely, if you commit a crime that is so outside the norm that a reasonable person can't even, like, put yourself or put themselves in your shoes, then you don't belong in that society. Because by keeping people like that in your in your society, you're you're propagating those genes. So even if that like, let's say you prevent those like, let's say you get them for being felons. They become felons, and now they can't vote because they're felons. They can't serve on juries because they're felons. Well, guess what? They're going to have kids and their kids, maybe they aren't going to commit felonies. Maybe they are. There's no way to really know. Yeah, but those those genes, are now in the gene pool, and they're voting, and they're having more kids, and they are serving on juries, and maybe they're going to law school, and maybe, you know what I mean,
01:40:11 like, I think that maybe we don't need to murder these people, but we should explore the forced sterilization angle. Anybody that's had an abortion immediately forced sterilization with abortion procedure you get arrested for prostitution, forced sterilization? Yeah, I think that
01:40:28 murder them. I think we need to murder them. I mean, depends on what it is, but because it's like, well, all right, we sterilize them, but we still what keep them in institutions and pay for them to live out their sterile lives forever. That's still ridiculous,
01:40:45 like, what's I'm trying to find a way where I don't have to put everyone in the pit. I'm just not ready yet emotionally.
01:40:51 No, we need to put people in the roof hole. We need to have a gigantic roof all where people are fed into it. There needs like a conveyor belt and and that, I mean, I'm telling you, there needs to be industrialized roofing for like, at least a few years to take care of this problem at this point, because it's just been run amok. Yeah. And the second we let women, the second we let women be like, Oh, but my feels the roof hole, sounds, mean, see, that's when we stop having roof holes, yeah, and then the problem explodes. And listen,
01:41:25 we don't have the stomach for it. As base as I am, I'm still resisting you. Yeah?
01:41:30 I just think that, yeah. We just need industrialized, you know, thinning, thinning of the herd, some hardcore eugenics going
01:41:40 on, right, right? I mean, we've, we've allowed this dysgenic behavior to be propagated through things like IVF, and then all these freaks are finding each other too. Yeah, pro creating. It's just a disaster.
01:41:55 Yeah, it's not to bring it back to bees, but I'm going to bring it to bees for a second. So it reminds me of like some of the strongest bee genetics that exist right now are called Buck fest bees. They're from Buck fest Abbey in England. And the story behind the buck fest bee is that a lot of because of globalization, a lot of bee diseases from Asia and other places began to sweep through Europe and really affect the the European bees that were not immune, they didn't have any immune system that was able to handle these kinds of diseases, and there was like this perfect Storm of like, bad weather and diseases and stuff there were, there were wiping out bees and the thing. But because of that, at Buckfast Abbey, you had this father, I forget his name up top my head, but you had this beekeeping monk, basically at Buckfast Abbey, who saved like the bees that actually survived like this, you know, total calling of the population. And he started propagating the good genes of these bees. And now these bees are, like, expensive. They're like 150 bucks for a single bug. You know, imagine paying 150 bucks for an insect, and that's being get one, and it's because genetics matter. They matter so much. And, and that's what we need to do. You will come back so much stronger, even if we get, you know, we have to whittle it down to, like a couple of hives, you know, eventually, eventually, or we'll take over the world like the buck fast bees,
01:43:42 that's just what I've come to this conclusion.
01:43:45 That's just, that's what has to happen. It has to happen. All right, so I guess with that,
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01:46:06 So sorry, guys. All right, then we got Ford enthusiast who says, Let's pour one out for Peter, who screeches all night. And that's a reference to last insomnia stream where we had one of the crazy people that was led out of the institution was described. And then there's Peter who screeches all night. It's like, why do we need, why do we need Peter who screeches all night? Can we just, can we get rid of him? Are you okay with that, Rebecca, can we put Peter who screeches all night into the rueful?
01:46:39 Yeah, I guess. I mean, can you just stay in the roof hole? Do we have to start the building on fire?
01:46:46 Well, I think they're gonna want to. Once you put Peter in there, he screeches all night. The other the other people in the roof hole are like, all right, burn us. We can't take this. We can't take it anymore, Peter. Peter is made it intolerable. All right, then going over to rumble. Let's see here. Scroll, scroll, scroll. All right. We got a generous donation from likes to watch, who says, continuing to pay what I owe for the backlog of great material from both of you, hope you are doing well. So there's likes to watch well. Thank you very much. Likes to watch.
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01:47:48 it wasn't like evergreen content. Yeah, more got it. Well, there you go. Silver lining, I guess then we got TMK 1335 says blonde. Epic collab idea, you Devon and Mike stoke Lassa. I don't
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01:48:10 I have no idea what that is, or who Mike stoke Lassa is.
01:48:15 You much must watch Red Letter Media. They are these movie reviewers, and they are so funny. And I love Mike, and I know that he's an ugly, fat man, but it's just peak male. He's just Peak Peak man, right there, Mike, if I got to do a stream with Devon and Mike, I think I would just be so grateful. Is that? Is that true?
01:48:36 Yeah, he's now he's, I put a box near him, and he has just used it, and his, the fragrance of churro is wafting through the air right now. Yeah, it's not great. Anyway, the that's what, that's what ketamine smells like on on the way out. Anyway, they said, says, team up for a 13 hour live review of Europa, the last battle. I bet he'd be down for it. I like to think Mike is secretly based. I like to think that too.
01:49:15 Every once in a while he'll he'll give me a wink and a nod, and I did investigate it thoroughly, and he is not Jewish. Although Jay might be Jewish, Jay is also five foot three. No new Jay is but you gotta watch
01:49:30 Red Letter Media sounds Jewish if he's five foot three, all right, then we got truffle B with a generous donation. Says, keep up to go to work, get well soon. Churro, thank you. He's walking around so that's that's
01:49:48 peeing all over the his ketamine pee, just spraying it all over Devon's, oh, I didn't say it was pee. Oh, are you just in a room with like, the wafting? Ketamine, cash
01:50:01 it well, kind of because it's, I put him in here with me, obviously. And then I put a box really close bike so he wouldn't have to hobble very far, you know.
01:50:10 And sacrifices we make for kitties, yeah.
01:50:16 All right, then we got Richard 1387 says Devon, you raised a good point in the previous stream about people not liking the police just because they got caught with weed that one time when they were 16. They hate cops for shitty Lupin pro reasons. We hate them for cool nationalist ones. Are we not? We are not the same. Thanks for the show, folks.
01:50:40 I still hate cops because of busting 16 year olds. That's just, it's just a lame, misallocation of resources. It's like, you know, get the black criminal. Just stop arresting white kids doing dumb shit. Well, if they were
01:50:53 doing that, and I'll tell you what, as a white kid that did dumb shit when I was younger, there I had, I lived in a an area where there was lots of non white kids doing much more violent shit. And I'll tell you, cops let me off a couple times because they were just like, you're just doing what? Now you're just driving this, this car that you own, the titles in your name. You're just driving through the desert and running over shit and smashing it up and shooting bottle rockets off. Okay, whatever. Dude, you're not murdering anyone. So go on. You know, I've had, I had lots of times where, like, cops were cool to me because I wasn't a dick to them and I wasn't, you know, wasn't their actual problem. Yeah, I feel like that's been cool. And I feel like that's how it was, probably even when that, like, you know, in the, say, like, before the great Negro migration and before, like, the demographic, yeah, like cops would be, like, all right, little Billy, if you get into more trouble, I'm gonna tell your mom. And, you know, little Billy wouldn't play with matches anymore.
01:51:55 Yeah, one time after college, it was, I was at a Halloween party, and one of my male friends drove me home, and he got pulled over, and he blew a point 08 which is the legal cut off, and the cop was like, I don't want you to have to get a DUI, so I'm just gonna follow you home. And it's fine, just don't do this again.
01:52:17 Something identical to that, pretty much happened. I wasn't driving. I was in the passenger seat, but my friend and I were driving back home. We were like, two blocks away from our house. Pulled over. He was like, All right, you guys are drunk, but how much further you got to go? And he's like, really, like, literally, right there. He's like, all right, I'm gonna follow you. He's like, okay. And he followed us to my parents house and drove away. And that was, Yep, yeah. So every once in a while you get away with something good, old fashioned, white privilege, the way it should be. All right. Then we got the supreme Rabbi Satan says, blonde, which part of Missouri were you from? Why did you leave? Would you go back? What are the pros and cons of Missouri?
01:52:57 Rhineland, okay, so I was from St Louis, but I lived in West County, so it was the white area. Why did I leave? There's no industry there. And also, I don't know it's like, it's like old money and insular, but, and I hate the weather there, but the Riff Raff from St Louis is came into West County. There was like a fatal shooting from a black kid at the West at the Chesterfield mall a few years ago, and they did inner city bussing in my high school, which I've talked about a lot, and the city is now filled with Jews and Indians. So no, I, under no circumstances Am I going back to St Louis like I haven't even been back to visit in like, 15 years or something. No, no, no. Why? That's why I left. I guess Missouri has some good spots. You've got some family still in Missouri, right?
01:53:53 Yeah, not in the good spots, though. Well, I mean, in the rural spots, I guess so kind of good.
01:53:59 The weather is just ass there, and so many black people,
01:54:04 absolutely All right, then we got Reinhardt 1488 says, just want to second the idea of a marathon or a multi part view of Europa the last battle. Love it. Well, didn't they just redo it? Did they? I thought they redid it and, like, made it shorter, or something like that. Someone did, I don't know. I haven't seen the new one, because the first one apparently has some, like, like, some factual errors with it, so they wanted to redo it to fix that, so that people weren't, you know, using that to, you know, attack the whole thing and compress it so that you didn't have to be some Sperg that watched it for 13 hours. But, yeah, I don't know. Well, maybe we'll look into that after the show. All right, then we got real Starfish Prime says Mr. Stack. Last insomnia stream premiered far too late for US East Coasters to donate before the show started. Thank you. For your attention to this matter, talking about the starting the the entropy earlier. Yeah, I just that just means I'm working on it up until like, the last second. Probably the same with this show I didn't do. I'd have like, the thumbnail done until we were, like, 15 minutes till we're live. So, you know, churro kind of I was gonna work a lot more on the show yesterday, but instead I was driving 300 miles with a dying cat. So, you know, it is what it is. Then we got real star, starfish, prime again. Says, really love the design. Layout of the show looks like the monitors were moved slightly from the last show to more of a main screen. No, same. Oh, you want to see that? Actually, that's we should do. Go back to this. Pata, there we go. No, nothing's changed. Both of you. Keep up the great work. Wife also likes the show.
01:56:01 Oh, cool. Thank you.
01:56:05 Appreciate that. Then we got super Daphne with a very generous donut. All right. She says we love the new show. So you have anything to say to super Daphne?
01:56:21 No, I love my mom. I tweeted at her the other day, and she was so pissed. She's like, I'm supposed to be anonymous, so I call her, she's all pissed off, and she's like, I have 12 followers now. I deleted my tweet. I forgot that I'd done this before to her, and she was really pissed. My mom is a hyper introvert, like the most introverted person, putting her on blast is like the worst possible thing for her. But we do appreciate your support, Mom and I can
01:56:54 relate to the introvert thing for sure. Really, oh yeah, big time. You wouldn't think I see I used to, I used to do, I've done lots of public speaking. I've been in lots of roles where you have to do it. But like, if I've ever had to do, like, a real big, like, there's I've had to go to, like, conferences where I do a public speaking thing, and then, like, I'm having to, like, talk to people all day long. And then, like, when it's when it's over. Most people, they go hit the bar, I go back to my room, and just like, I'm like, away from the people away.
01:57:30 That is the test of extroversion. Introversion, do other people give you energy, or do they your energy? Like, when I'm coming home from a party, I just feel like I'm on drugs. I'm on cloud nine from like, all that social interaction and talking to everybody, and my mom doesn't understand me. She's like, the tyranny of extroverts has destroyed my life.
01:57:50 I mean, look, I'm not like, it's not like, Yeah, I'm not like, over the top, and I'm much better nowadays. But yeah, I can i i enjoy not being around people a lot.
01:58:04 The problem with extroverts is they always treat introverts introversion like it's a problem that needs to be fixed, but it's really not. I mean, introverts are more introspective, and I think that they're a little more careful about the things that they say. Extroverts, we're the ones that have major personality defects.
01:58:24 You said it not me. All right, now we got cagero says gassing was a common term bandied around the 1940s and guess who capitalized on that term and made an entire narrative about it? I don't know the Jews. I think it might, maybe. I think he might be talking about Jews. Then we got tomo Hawk says, got here way too late. So I think I'll just watch the replay. I'm sure it'll be great. A great show is always Oh And Dave is a dick. Yes, he is Oh, there you go. We got flank vert says, My name is pronounced Flanker. VT. Well, I like flank, flank, stroke, buddy. I mean, that's how you have to say an anal that's spelled like that, Flanker. Vt, huh? Flanker, VT. I just wanted to say dirt meat. It's still one of the best historical films I've ever seen, looking forward to buying a t shirt when it's available. There is a dirt meat shirt that's been available for months. That's your time up. We'll get the outlaws ones done. I I'll set up a store this, this week or before the night show. I'll set up a merch store, and we'll have like, a roof hole shirt or something in there, at least. Maybe, maybe. So we'll get some stuff. We'll get I just haven't had a chance. But, uh, thank you there Flanker. All right, then we got white X pilled says just showing some support for two of the best around. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you so much. And. We got Evan six to six says, Please look into the institutionalization of George Lincoln Rockwell. My understanding is that some Jews said his anti semitism meant he was insane. He was nearly injected with a brain killing drug. My understanding is they brought him in and then they let him out because they concluded he was not insane, really.
02:00:21 I don't know anything about this.
02:00:22 Yeah, they tried to institutionalize him for the anti semitism, and then they realized he was, like, smart and cool, and they let him out interesting. So, yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, people are always worried about that. It's like, that's, that's the argument for everything. When it comes to using power, if we use this power, then they'll use it against us. And it's like, Stop, just stop with that. People need to stop with that and realize that, yeah, yeah, it's not gonna be perfect. There's gonna be problems with it, but there'd be a hell of a lot fewer of those people that want to use it against you around if we'd guess their fucking grandma would you start carrying around like a stuffed baby because her baby died, you know what I mean? And so like, that's, that's what we got to do, is get rid of people like that, and then they're not in charge of anything ever. All right, we got Mr. Smalls 14 says, Yes, ma'am. Okay, hopefully that's not directed at me. Then we got mo Jack says, We need a RL Running Man when it's an PPV and bet on the stalkers.
02:01:33 We need to. We need a real life Running Man situation that we put on Pay Per View.
02:01:38 Oh, I see. I don't know what those acronyms there, I like it. Yeah, see, that's, maybe that's another reason why Hollywood tried to make that so over the top, so we wouldn't get any good ideas. Yeah, really, then we got Evan six to six again. Says, I'm, oh, wait, that's the same one. Or, wait, no, no, it's a different one, but about the same topic. Pretty sure. I learned about the George Lincoln Rockwell institutionalization from a chapter in one of his books, either white power or this time, this world. I heard him talk about it briefly, and he taught he, you know, talked about it like it was a joke. He's like, Yeah, they tried to institutionalize me. And then I talked to the doctor for a few minutes, and he was like, You're, you're the most sane person here, and let him let me go. Or, I mean, I'm paraphrasing, obviously, but, like, that's basically what he was saying. Then we got Ray fleck says, Thanks for all of your efforts over the years. Both of you keep up the great work.
02:02:37 We are all timers. Man, yeah, been around a long time,
02:02:41 seen so many people come and go 1010, years now. How about you?
02:02:47 Well, I've been in politics for well, in media my whole life, but not I would say I kind of got based around 2016 so yeah, 10 years now. Fuck I didn't think about 10 years it
02:03:02 used to be so much fun.
02:03:06 It's still fun. It's just, you know, cuz I, you gotta remember, I got black pilled probably before most people, I got black pilled like the the first day of Trump's administration when he said, yeah, good people, and everyone's slowly caught up at this point. Some of them trying to take credit for it. That's fine. And, yeah, I mean, so for me, some of it gets boring a little bit. Sometimes, just because I feel like I've been saying this for 10 years, dude.
02:03:34 Like, no, I'm not bored. But it was like the Wild West. You could just wake up. I remember sometimes just waking up and I'd have a video that had 500,000 views,
02:03:45 well, that's only because, yeah, I would say the suppression algorithm type stuff that has that does take some of the wind out of your cells. You know what I mean? Like, same thing. Because I had, like, I would, I would clock in a half a million views on videos on a regular basis. And now that'll never happen, and it will. And obviously, you could have your stuff on amazon.com I got banned from Amazon with my book. You could have, you know, an actual, you know, you can have normal platforms and stuff, and, yeah, but that lasts very long, you know. So I enjoyed it for like the year or two. I feel like that's about all it was, yeah, before it got cracked down.
02:04:27 But 2016 and 2017 that was when it was the most fun.
02:04:31 Yeah, back before we knew the, the, I guess, the, or at least before I knew the how Jewish Trump was, that's the biggest
02:04:43 I don't know I was figuring it out back then. Yeah, I had some really anti semitic mentors.
02:04:51 That's good. That's good. Yeah, the earlier you figured that out, the better, because it really is the key that unlocks all the everything else. It's painful, though. Was painful, man. All right, then we got a cage motion. Jaro says those 12 minutes of hanging are nothing to what he did to those boys. Exactly. Course, yeah, I would have been 12 Days of hanging.
02:05:17 My sympathies don't extend to this guy.
02:05:21 No, no. And nor should they to any guy that you know, any, any guy that that that is weird, weird enough to go in the hole, you know, he's, do you really want more people standing in line in front of you in places?
02:05:37 Good Lord, that's what academic agent said to me. And I was like, and then I gave this whole spiel about how the world's not actually overpopulated, it's just too few white people. So is the question, Is your question? Do I want more brown people standing in front of me in line? Because I can get on board with what you're saying, obviously. Well, just
02:05:56 think of this way, if we're getting rid of undesirables. I felt like that was implied that that includes, you know, like, yeah, it involves Racial Hygiene. But if you're going to be hygienic, I mean, there's some races where, like, the, you know, the whole thing's got to go, right, yeah, you know. So anyway, yeah, I mean, the white herder would get thinned, but not, not as severely as I think the others, um, and look, they'd just be removed. I think, anyway, really, what I'm talking about is a whites only society performing Racial Hygiene. We don't, we don't have to do the Racial Hygiene thing until we, you know,
02:06:40 dysgenic whites are last,
02:06:43 not not last because they'd get in the way of getting rid of the others. But they certainly, they certainly are not as I feel like this would be the order this genic, well, Jews, first of all, and then blacks, and then dysgenic Everybody else, and then dysgenic whites, yeah, well, I said Jews and blacks, and they're kind of like a mix of the two. So, right? So that kind of takes care of that. All right. Then we got Ghost Dog. Man says, crazy theory here. Didn't we have high tea back in the day, which resulted in stronger, uglier women and men? But Holly, weird, wanted softer, effeminate, feminine females or ephemera females. He says, so pumped all the oil with estrogen mimickers or pumped all society with that. I mean, I don't know. I think that,
02:07:45 I think that male testosterone was much higher, but now that I'm looking I was gonna say female testosterone wasn't higher, but now that I'm looking it up, it actually was, yeah, it was probably
02:07:55 higher, but I don't think it was high enough to make like, you know, this monstrosity. This is just, this is just horrifying. That's, that's not normal. No, like this is, that's, this is not normal. Let me still find a better picture of
02:08:10 her by better. Do you know what causes high testosterone in men?
02:08:15 What's that? Smoking? Oh, there you go. Yeah, yeah. So like this? Yeah, I don't think that that's not, yeah, that's that wasn't normal at any at any point in time.
02:08:30 What is she wearing? What is, what is going on there?
02:08:33 Well, she's holding a chicken.
02:08:35 Oh, it looks like, okay, I'm kind of far away from the screen, but it looks like she's wearing, like, some like a chest armor with with feathers.
02:08:46 No, she's holding a chicken. Oh,
02:08:48 okay, that makes way more sense.
02:08:51 That's one of the rape chickens.
02:08:58 All right. So then we got TMK 1335 says, APE boy can get in the roof hole, see? TMK 1335 is on board.
02:09:10 All right, little by little, I can be persuaded.
02:09:14 Then we got purple cat. Mint says, Hey, Rebecca, what was up with your neighbor banging on your door? Last stream, yeah, what was? Oh, that was so bizarre.
02:09:21 So after the stream, I went to the house where I saw he pulled in the driveway and some old woman. She was all like, whoa. Who are you? I was like, I'm your neighbor. She wouldn't pull down the top of her screen. I was like, I'm your neighbor. It's fine, but I was just wondering if you have this kind of car. And she's like, No, we don't have her mind. And then she goes, Oh, you know what? The merry made man that we had coming over was late, and he was driving that kind of car, and he said he went to the wrong house. I was like, Oh, I just assume, I just assumed that somebody was here to murder me. But really it was just a lost maid. I need, I'm paranoid. I need to stop
02:10:03 well, and they could have been there to murder you, because it's the maid always, always the one that did it. That's true. I don't know. That's kind of a weird clue joke or something, isn't it? Or Pluto, as the British call it, you know, they call it Pluto, yeah, they call it Pluto. It's so gay. Why? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first time I was, I was talking to some British person. They said, Pluto. And I'm like, What the fucks Pluto? They're all, you know, Pluto, you know the game. I'm like, Pluto. What is that? One of these, like, you know, like the the jolly fashion jammers, or you guys have, like, stupid names for everything, the it's the Periwinkle Patu. And they're just like, you know, they just make shit up. It seems like So Pluto. I don't know why they wouldn't. Why'd they change that? Because they they change things that you that are so weird that they would change because it's not like, I mean, it's an American thing. We made it. We called it clue like, Why? Why would you need to add a dough at
02:10:59 the end of it? That makes me disproportionately furious. I don't know why, but that fills me with rage, and it makes me furious.
02:11:07 Yeah, yeah, me too. I don't get it. It'd be like if they called it McDonald's, oh, or something like that. What's what's the point of it? So anyway, Spy guy 89 says, no matter what time the show is on, count me in.
02:11:24 Oh, I'm so glad. Thank you.
02:11:26 Thank you very much. There, Spy guy, we'll see you probably at five. Then next week is that we're doing five
02:11:32 next week, Pacific, Standard Time, yep, all right, five. Five it is. I will be at a different location, because I'm going to see my nieces and nephews next week. So time slot works out.
02:11:44 Can you do the thing? Can you still do it? Yeah, okay. All right, so we got cage motion. Juro says the entire world will be a roof hole soon. Well, possibly, possibly, I hope not. All right, then we got evergreen dream says was having a hectic day at work and missed the stream. We'll catch the replay. We'll appreciate that. You'll hello to Evergreen dream in the future. Evan, six to six says the reason the death penalty is so onerous today is actually because white Gentiles desperately want to kill the scum in our society. The onerous measures are in place to defeat some Jews, and we all pitched in to make this dono in honor of the dearly departed retarded faggot. Oh, wait, nope, that's part I thought that was part two, and it was actually just some other guy saying that this poor guy is like, I didn't say that. It flowed together too. So that was, that was ghost, dog man, the second part of His thing was and a black in the 1970s the death penalty was declared by SCOTUS to be unconstitutional and abolished across the country. The reasoning put forth by several Jews and first black on SCOTUS was that this is, this is one of those dollar donos where he keeps going and going, just so you know, Evan six to six, this will be, this is the last time you're gonna be able to do this was that if you administered arbitrary and too often to abuse by biased prosecutors and other such dastardly white Gentiles, the good people who used to be in the state legislator got to work thinking of ways to defeat arbitrariness and abusive rationales to be turning me into Stephen Molyneux. Okay, I know to reinstate the death penalty. He keeps going with it almost, you know, I'm sorry. I'm actually gonna not you. There's three more after that. There's three more. I'm gonna see if your last one gets to the point I'm all the way down to your last one. Your last one has dot, dot, dot. After it like you're still typing. Don't send any more donations. All right, I get it. I get it. Yes, choose did the death penalty stuff that. All right, sorry, Evan, this is, like, this is literally, you are the reason for the rules. You're the one that ruined it for everybody else. All right, yeah. All right. Ghost Dog man says, we all pitched in to make this done in order, or in obviously, honor of retarded faggot. All right. Then we got, after I go through all the, all the ones from that, from Evan, we got book track grooves. Says, blonde, how do we send you stories? Dayvon, when is the fundraiser for the new horse for Dayvon, for the new horse. Devon sometimes they call me Dayvon, because when I was on Infowars, Alex Jones called me Dayvon, Dayvon he thought I was black for I'm 100% convinced I. Um, because it was called Black Pilled. And he was just like, Black Pilled and he had, he never talked to me before. Like, No, we got from Black Pilled. We got Dayvon Stack. And then I'm like, It's, how's it going. I'm the whitest guy sounding guy ever.
02:15:15 You know, I know, I know he's a spurgey controlled opposition, but I just, I just, I just have a special place in my heart for him because of the nostalgia of watching info words in like, 2016 2017 Yeah, it was entertaining. It was entertaining.
02:15:30 Yes. And then, or what was he saying that? What was the question we got distracted by the Dave on part. Oh, how do you how do they send you stories?
02:15:42 I don't just we're in contact on Twitter. Just keep sending me messages on Twitter. There you go. Stop calling me, though,
02:15:50 and I don't know what you mean by by the horse thing.
02:15:53 He's really into horses.
02:15:55 Okay, I don't have a horse, and I don't, I don't think I'll get a horse. It's too much work. I have bees. I can only be responsible for so many species. I'm taking, like, cats to the fucking hospital. Got bees. I mean, I can't have I can't have horses too. Okay, that's
02:16:12 just cats and bees. All right, that's a lot. That's a lot. I have cats and dogs. Does that mean we're the same?
02:16:19 Well, wait till you get bees. I am getting bees. You'll realize bees are are actually more work than the cat and the dog. They're really well, well, you can ignore them, and they just won't be as fun.
02:16:31 But my daughter is so excited. And we can open up our streams by talking about our bees. There you go. And I can give you people are
02:16:39 gonna hate. Nah, people will get bees? Yeah, I can start selling killer bees, like mailing killer bees to the mail. Wow, that'd be so horrific. I kind of want to do it now. All right, then we got cage mission. Jaro says, ever done an Africa audio stream? Yes, I have, I don't remember. Might actually be called just Africa audio edition. Amren.com just dropped a great podcast about it, and just wondered if you'd done an insomnia stream on it. Yeah, almost positive. And I it might be called Audio edition, or something like that. And then we got, oh, finally got to the last one of Evans. It just, it was a different it was a different color, Evan, because his last one was $2 All right, so Evan, let me see if you, if you sum it up, let's hear his loving document that we have evolved beyond death penalty, even though it was definitive, definitively thought to be a legit punishment when the document was written. Thanks for control. Yeah, no, that's we understand, like, basically through legally navigating the legal system, Jews have eroded punishments across the board, not just the death penalty, and have, as you said, you know, basically watered down the Constitution by saying it's it's infinitely changeable. All right, then we got Reinhard 1488. Says we can solve the female squeamishness problem somewhat just by making executions quick and relatively painless, bullet to the brain or lethal injection, etc, or by making them wear a Pokemon outfit as we throw them in the roof hole, I added that last part at the end. I don't know.
02:18:28 You know what really help women by turning it into a really posh social event. Ah, yeah.
02:18:36 And then put like, by posh, do you mean like, are we talking, you know, like, Hunger Games, looking stuff, or are we talking like?
02:18:46 But what if we could all wear little hats with like, and have those little British like, tea sandwiches and crustless sandwiches with cucumbers on them? And, like, stackable trays, you know,
02:19:00 so, like, like, a really ornate gallows,
02:19:05 like, like, Tea Party gallows would so be into that you can, you can just have a nice little you can have your little signature cocktail for the person getting murdered and getting executed. And then we can all just sit there with our little, our little, is there a fancy way to kill someone? I think guillotines got a lot of class, but you might get sprayed.
02:19:26 No, but, I mean, like, like, seriously, is there like, a fancy way, like a way that, just, like, it's almost like lavish, that's so that's that would be the draw. Like, wow, ooh, wow, fancy.
02:19:38 Okay, let's think about that. Let's brainstorm. I like, I like, where your head is,
02:19:43 like, like, like, a femininely fancy, not like, you know, because for a guy, fancy is like, you strap him to like a rocket and shoot him at the moon or something like that. I mean, I mean, like, something that women would get into, where they'd be like, Oh,
02:19:55 women are really into poisoning.
02:19:59 Oh, you know. Yeah, here's, here's what you do. Here's what you do. So you mix the poison, like a mix your cocktail. Yeah, you have, like, some guy, you have a fancy bar with all these different, like, chemicals behind him, but they're in really fancy jars and and they have, like, all these little spice, you know, containers, like girls, like, you know, like, like, you're going to, like, the herb store to get your Cherokee hair tampons, you know, like, just like, make it look really have crystals everywhere. And can we have that round ice? You can have whatever you want, well, the round ice, and we can have some, some like, Midget with a tuxedo on, and he's he'll do tricks as he mixes the deadly mixture together, right? And and then he'll pump it into some kind of machine that that executes the guy who is wearing something designed by coach.
02:20:59 Okay, no, but you're not a gay man, but that's okay. Does that work? Something like that? Okay, let's go. Let's go, like Dolce and Gabbana. Okay, there you go. Okay, okay, I'm into it, yeah. Can we have like a, like a smoke feature on the ground?
02:21:20 Well, the smoke coming out of him when he's being electrocuted, I would think would kind of work, right?
02:21:26 I still think that we should poison him with a signature cocktail. Can make it all right.
02:21:32 Or, how about this? Women like to decide things too. So why don't we just let them vote? That's the one time you let women vote. Is how they die. Okay? So they can show up with their little hats and then have like, you know, like, America's Got Talent kind of things, like a little buttons under their seats or whatever, yeah, and, or they give them an app, I guess, because it's not the 80s anymore.
02:21:56 Oh, an app, a little QR code,
02:21:59 right? And then love
02:22:00 QR codes at restaurants. And they
02:22:02 can vote like, and they can rate, they can rate the ways, well, we use poison last week, and okay, I was not pleased with the way Jorge twitched when he was dying, exactly.
02:22:14 And we can all live stream it and then talk about the live stream like when people used to live stream Real Housewives, and talk about it on Twitter. There you go. This is brilliant. And then we can have a tasting menu after and it's all desserts, all desserts. There you go.
02:22:29 All right, I think we solved the problem Reinhardt. Let's see here. Then we got evergreen. Dream says, I think Pluto is a pun on clue and Ludo. Ludo is similar to Parcheesi, whatever. This makes me hateful. I don't know what the fuck Ludo is, either. Is that something else you guys made up? Is that something that was American called Lou and you guys called it Ludo? I don't know. All right, then we got uncle. You know, the one thing that bothers me more than Pluto is we had Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and the ninja part was too violent for them, and so they changed it to, like teenage, like fun time Ninja Turtles or something like that. Like, there's Wait, the mutant part was too violent. No, the ninja part was I don't even understand which I don't even understand. Like, like in America in the 80s, everything was ninjas. Did you guys not have any ninjas? Like, in the 80s, that was too much. The ninjas
02:23:39 went the way of the gun in the UK.
02:23:43 Let's see here. They were called teenage hero turtles, Teenage Mutant hero turtles.
02:23:53 That is so gay, it's okay,
02:23:58 so gay, all right. Then we got uncle Vinnie says, look up a virilization and congenital, congenital adrenal adrenal
02:24:10 hyperplasia, yeah, I can't say stuff, yeah, maybe that woman did have ch
02:24:18 fetus is exposed to excess androgens. Androgens, Jews have higher genetic tendencies, up to 500% likely female, example, Andrea Dworkin and dozens of and then it just says, That's it cuts off there.
02:24:34 Brittany, whoa, who was that big bitch that was in that was imprisoned in Russia, the NBA. WNBA, oh, Britney Greiner, yeah, she has ch
02:24:49 Are we even sure that's a woman
02:24:51 for real? Have you seen that picture of her with her shirt off?
02:24:54 Looks like a dude, yeah? All right, then we got real star. Our real Starfish Prime says way off topic, but I Steve o was on GRE and said he hasn't watched porn in over a decade. Not much was discussed about it, but nice to see it brought up. Nice to see it, nice to see it brought up on such a huge podcast.
02:25:19 That is nice.
02:25:22 I don't who's I Steve O,
02:25:24 is he talking about? Steve O?
02:25:26 What from Jackass? Okay, I don't know. I don't know. All right, then we got, let's see here. Cage motion. Jarro says the Brits like to appear homely or boring, so they can add words, etc. Aa, used the words Lo Fi to describe his style this week. I love. Aa, well, Lo Fi is not that crazy. No, have a word. Then we got back on and then we'll pass it back to you. Back on entropy, we got FUBAR nation says YouTube chat needs a mod. So there you go. Okay. And then the man himself says, Great job as usual. How are how are you sure the pit solution is not derived from sadism? How can we make sure it wouldn't devolve into that
02:26:21 it's a slippery, no, it's not
02:26:22 only a slippery. I feel like it's,
02:26:24 no, no, that's a slippery slope argument,
02:26:27 right, right, right, yeah. I feel like that's, the thing is, you can apply that to everything, like, that's, it's, it's like, you just, you just do what's necessary, you know. It's, it's kind of like saying, Well, if we put this guy in prison, then, you know, then we'll start putting little kids in prison. It's like, No, you don't, you kill rapists. Like, what's that? What slippery slope is that leading to? You know, you're gonna kill rapists and enjoy it. Oh, no, I'm okay with that kind of sadism. I do
02:26:58 have mods in here. Here. Yeah, no, no, I went her in the forest as a mod, and then i mod Dave's wife was in here earlier, and I was like, messaging her. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. What are you doing here? My family's praying for you. I just want you to know, I know.
02:27:20 Are you good over there? Yeah. Entropy logged me out because that's what it likes to do midstream.
02:27:24 Okay, I'll do, I'll do some Supers. Propaganda. No note. Thank you. Scribble saga also. No no. Thank you. Jacob Winkelman, going through LP stuff. Do you remember the James Fishback, the Destiny jubilee clip? Devon it was the last clip in the stream right after Trump's election. Fishback was Israel first last year. That guy, I had him on the backlash, and I'm like, This guy is sus and I don't exactly know why, but I think his physiognomy is chewy, and I don't like anybody attaching themselves to the America First thing, this is just another, another problem with America.
02:27:57 First, I've seen people talk about him looking like a Jew, but I don't know.
02:28:04 There are no base politicians. Let's get real. Yeah. La chance says that kind of loving turns a man into a slave, that kind of love and sends a man right to his grave. I go crazy having JF Sing me Aerosmith was the highlight of my week, month and year. That was the best dream I've ever seen in my entire life. I've never felt better about myself. I was horrified and mesmerized. Thank you, Jaya, he asked if I want to be a part of his harem. So I asked my husband, and my husband said it's okay, as long as he can get an 18 year old Brazilian au pair. So I might just be moving to Canada. I don't know. There you go, jam, Jacob Winkelman, also would be cool to get Emily yukas and Devon Stack crossover with you in the cup chair on one of these outlaws episodes. I know you have the juice to pull it off. I could pull that off, but I can't have somebody better looking and more based on my show, it's just, it's just too undermining to to my sense of self. I don't think I can do it. I love Emily. I'd like
02:29:10 to see if, what? So I thought I saw a tweet the other day saying that they were shutting down Sora, and I'm pretty sure that's what she uses for her animation. I wonder. Oh no. I mean, there's, she'll find another way. Yeah, there's other stuff she could use. But I was wondering if that how that was going to affect
02:29:27 her workflow. She'll figure it out. She always does big A Have either of you looked into or heard much about the phenomenon organ dones taking on the personality traits of their donors? I have, I think that it is bullshit. I think that it's coincidental, and there's basically no way to conduct, to conduct a clean study on this.
02:29:51 Yeah, I mean, I would say, you know, because their DNA is in you, but it's also you're taking medicine cons. Constantly to prevent your body from rejecting it. And that DNA is not, you know, going to your brain, but I don't know. Maybe, is there maybe something else that we don't understand that could be happening? I mean, I guess it's possible, but I don't see the evidence for it.
02:30:17 And no, we're talking about genetically inherited traits like I don't I don't I don't think that your personality is housed in your pancreas or something, right? This is just too pseudo scientific for me. I'm Matt Bell, Hi, Rebecca. I'm sure I've heard of this Canadian freak before. Wasn't he related to the Quebecois girl? Pa family. Come on. Come on. Michael Ellis, buy the cat a chocolate mouse or something. Isn't, isn't chocolate? Um, also fatal for cats, not just dogs.
02:30:50 I think, I think so. Cats seem to only be able to eat meat, and that's about it.
02:30:56 My cat loves popcorn. Isn't that
02:30:58 weird? Is there butter on it?
02:31:01 No
02:31:02 salt? Yeah, might be the salt.
02:31:05 Oh, she just goes crazy. She'll stick her little face in a bag of popcorn. Just go crazy. Little weirdo. Balkan Phoenix, here's some coffee money. Thank you both for all that you do. Devon is a legend, and Rebecca is beautiful and based, great combo. Thank you so much. Ryan White, awesome show. Great job. Mental illness is rampant today, partially because these mutts were left to breed. What role do you think TV and movies have played in modern mental dysfunction? Well, I don't think it has much to do with mental health, although people with antisocial personalities tend to have more non social outlets, which is probably compounding the mental health issues, also being propagandized for those people that don't have good reality testing already is disruptive to their ability to tell to decide what is, what is true and what and what is not true. And I think that we see a lot of this in Antifa and in leftists, they already have poor reality testing, and then people are giving them reasons to amplify their pre existing mental health issues well,
02:32:06 and AI is just exacerbating that across the board. Everyone thinking everything's fake now, so yeah, it's just it's that's gonna make people crazier.
02:32:15 Oh, totally Big Mad. Lead blonde, if things ever go south with your hubby, Jean Francois, ghetto PA is very interested, even posthumously, as I know he the mummy part. He's like, I've gone too far. She is still naive to the money to the mummy portion of this stream, Captain base. No, no. Thank you, sir. Destined to be different. No note also, thank you Big Mad lad. Are we going to do weekly shows with Cam too? I love the new shows too. They're so much better without Fuentes simp Dave, thank you so much. Yes, weekly on the reset with Cameron, we are doing another installment tomorrow, and we will be switching our time slot to Thursdays. Thank you. Please join us then tomorrow on my YouTube channel, on my new YouTube channel, although, remarkably, I was able to live stream this on my YouTube channel today. So I wonder if that copyright strike is going to go away. I going to go away. Funding in circles. Blonde, don't let people mislabeled data in Star Trek. Tng, Episode 322, which one is that the greedy alien wears a hat, mistreats wells and gives plastic surgery and data does the cooking. Which episode is this? I just rewatched Season Three Star Trek. Season three episode,
02:33:28 and you and you call me a nerd ever I've
02:33:31 been to two Star Trek The most toys. Yeah, it is that sniveling Jew on that episode, an excellent episode. I've been to two conventions. We're actually called trekkers, not Trekkies. Thank you for that. Yes, I love Star Trek The Next Generation. Don't ruin it for me, Devon, don't do it. Don't do it. I know you want to floppy disc energy 69 you forgot Arabs and North Africans and your racial hierarchy breakdown. That's true. Also, what is with the hate for Filipinos, low crime rate, high productivity, mostly doctors and nurses and warm people. I don't hate Filipinos. They're so small. They're so small and brown. I don't like their little hands. It creeps me out. Yeah, I know. I don't hate Filipinos. They're just not white. They shouldn't be here, destined to be different. Says Hi, thank you. Maui County. GIS said Devon is one of the best. He is the best, number one, destined to be different. Also said, what made you choose the chicken coop murder story? Well, my brother called me because he watched changelings. He's like, you're not going to believe this story, because I'm really into true crime. And then I started researching. I'm like, This is the craziest shit I've ever heard, because changelings is actually centered around the Christine Collins story. And I'm a mom of girls, and like, the idea that somebody could just switch out my kid and expect me not to notice was just so preposterous that I was like, there must be more to the story. And there was Matt Bell says, Hi, Devon was the pale siren girl based on Rebecca. Can you get Rebecca? To wear a diving mask next Wednesday. I'm kind of into it.
02:35:03 No, it was just, it was generic, generic one. No, actually, the way it started was the prompt that created the music when I was making the music video, the prompt was just like, 90s punk rock girl, you know, whatever. And it made some blonde with pigtails. And I was like, All right, well, that's what she looks like now. And so, you know, and then the latex bodysuit stuff, it was just, I was going cyberpunk with it, you know, with the and it just, I felt like, well, it's good because it's like a robot band. So she looks kind of like a, you know, robot in a way. Yeah. So, yeah,
02:35:39 we're good over here.
02:35:41 Okay, well, I think we're good. Let me just double check. Rumble. Oh, we got a couple more here, or one more at least. Reinhardt says, Have either of you guys ever done a stream on Liberia and why it failed? Maybe we need to need a status update on Wakanda now. That'd be a good one, because it does have an identical constitution to the United States, and it shows you what blacks are capable of doing on their own, which
02:36:12 is nothing. JT has talked about it extensively, though. There you go. Well, that's it, guys. Do you have anything else? No, thank you guys so much for joining us. We will see you next Wednesday at 5pm Pacific Standard Time. We are outlaws. I'm Rebecca Hargraves. Find me on x at blondes, underscore tweets. Check me out with Cameron tomorrow on my YouTube channel, on my new YouTube channel, which is at Rebecca Hargraves, one for the reset.
02:36:40 Devon, all right, well, and you guys can check out the insomnia stream every Saturday at 10 o'clock Pacific time at night, 10 o'clock Pacific Time, and we go over lots of crazy shit that is, I guess, appropriate for late nights on Saturdays. And you can follow me on Twitter at Black underscore pilled. And if you can't remember where to go, you go to black pill.com We'll take you to my Odyssey channel for the insomnia stream, and on that, yeah, make sure you tune in next Wednesday at five o'clock. And I guess that's it.
02:37:17 Thank you so much for joining us. We will see you then, bye bye, bye.